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“There’s Infinite Variability” – Shane Black Talks Reinventing The Predator

Now that we’ve got the first teaser trailer for The Predator, the flood gates on marketing seem to have opened! JoBlo and CinemaBlend have just released interviews from their own set visits that took place in April 2017.

First up we have JoBlo’s new article, a really interesting interview that was conducted with Shane Black while on set. Black talks working with Fred Dekker, giving his actors the freedom for improvisation, on the focus of the main characters suffering from PTSD, Logan’s influence and plenty of really interesting thoughts!

If you’re a listener to our podcasts or a reader of our reviews you’ll have seen I like to mention how flexible I believe the Predator series is. This is something Black talks about a few times throughout the interview and how it effected the approach he took with The Predator:

“Well, I think that there’s a basic premise that has to be honored every time you make a Predator film and that’s in some way, whatever the plot turns out to be, it has to, at some level, represent a hunt. But, beyond that I think there’s infinite variability. It’s like, monkey bars, you ever play on the jungle gym when you were a kid? It looks like they’re rigid and hard and it’d be hard to play on these things because they’re so rough, but if you go inside them there’s actually a lot of room to move around, you just know that the borders are there every once in a while.

The Predator director also spoke about his decision to cast people decidedly un-Arnold like, Black said it was a “reaction against perfection and the Predator going up against a perfect specimen all the time. And that being solely based on physical appearance and muscles and I thought, well, maybe misfits; maybe there’s a version in which misfits play more of a role and maybe there’s even a sense that The Predator himself is even an outcast. So, we were trying to find thematic elements that work for us.”

CinemaBlend have also posted a small article with Boyd Holbrook’s about the how and why of how Quinn McKenna responds to the Predators in the new film:

“I’ve seen something, and maybe there is a familiarity. I wouldn’t want to say that he’s a UFO conspiracy theorist, but he’s heard of things and seen things, and that may be a reference to the original. So that’s the reference to the original, which we are of keeping in lineage.”

We expect the rest of the bigger movie outlets will also start to release their set reports in the coming days. Thanks to ace3g for the news.

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  1. skull-splitter
    Point is, they don't have to. Some of the AvP novels did, but most of the Predator comics broadened the horizon and added stuff without overly humanizing them and keeping them in a shroud of mystery.

    It's really not that hard.

    I don't see how witnessing communication between them is humanizing them (which btw I'm a big proponent of keeping them "otherly"), unless you're referring to something else...
    It's not just communication (everything ís communication), it's the way it's presented. Classic in Predators communicated the way I expect them to, this takes it to another level.

    Demystifying the monsters by giving them overly human traits, like it happened in some novels, is what takes away the threat, although I'm afraid that ship sailed long ago.
  2. Wysps
    Point is, they don't have to. Some of the AvP novels did, but most of the Predator comics broadened the horizon and added stuff without overly humanizing them and keeping them in a shroud of mystery.

    It's really not that hard.

    I don't see how witnessing communication between them is humanizing them (which btw I'm a big proponent of keeping them "otherly"), unless you're referring to something else...
  3. skull-splitter
    Point is, they don't have to. Some of the AvP novels did, but most of the Predator comics broadened the horizon and added stuff without overly humanizing them and keeping them in a shroud of mystery.

    It's really not that hard.
  4. The Old One
    Predator was always destined to eventually develop them too much so that Predators are essentially humans that look different.

    Not saying this wouldn't have happened anyway but if Predator had tried to make it's own identity after Predator 2, or take Predator 2 a little further with a futuristic urban Earth, with its own series identity just beyond the creature itself. Predator would have a world to explore that's not just the creature.
    Or riding on the coatails of the Alien universe and making the universe of both of them so much smaller due to that.

    IMO do that, then slowly combine it with Alien, (With hints of Blade Runner, not direct connections other than global conglomerates or vehicles.) Then you have a cinematic universe that far and away supersedes that of any other.
  5. skull-splitter
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    Hoping we'll get more vocalizations along with those expressions.  Maybe even a "conversation" of sorts between some of them...hell even just a few words.

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    This is what I'm hoping for!  Actual conversations between the predators themselves.  Even if it's broken and roughly translated, it would be cool to witness communication between them since all we've had so far have been grunts and snarls.  (Though who knows, maybe that is language to them.)  But knowing what they're actually saying to each other would be kickass. 
    Oh god no...
  6. The Old One
    Glad we're at least getting something different from a competent director, hopefully that was just the worst trailer for this series so far.

    So Hybridisation, Predator's speaking and tapping in the Alien technology of the Predator all depends upon execution.
  7. Wysps
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    Hoping we'll get more vocalizations along with those expressions.  Maybe even a "conversation" of sorts between some of them...hell even just a few words.

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    This is what I'm hoping for!  Actual conversations between the predators themselves.  Even if it's broken and roughly translated, it would be cool to witness communication between them since all we've had so far have been grunts and snarls.  (Though who knows, maybe that is language to them.)  But knowing what they're actually saying to each other would be kickass. 
  8. Xerxész
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  9. BigDaddyJohn
    Not a real big spoiler don't worry, but i'll put the spoiler tag anyway  :D

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  10. Xerxész
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  11. PredBabe
    Hoping we'll get more vocalizations along with those expressions.  Maybe even a "conversation" of sorts between some of them...hell even just a few words.

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  12. ace3g
    Why Shane Black Decided To Direct The Predator

    Director Shane Black opened up to CinemaBlend and other outlets and explained that a significant draw to work on the film involved working with an alien creature who had a discernable personality. Black elaborated:

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        No, I just thought that it was a great, iconic alien. And, what separated it from other alien invasion movies wasn't just a space plot, it was an actual space creature with a mythos and a sense of honor, in some respect. A mission. And, a sense of humor, oddly. The idea of the game it plays. It's rare that the Predator shows humor, but there are moments where you see it almost look at someone like, 'Really?'

    https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2425421/why-shane-black-decided-to-direct-the-predator
  13. black
    It will be very stupid on the part of Shane not to take this into account but the chances are small ... I hope the film will still showcase the things of the City Hunter.
  14. Wysps
    If Anna knew about it, makes sense that others will.

    True, just really curious

    Obviously he is Dutch's son...

    I thought about this awhile ago, but didn't read that anywhere in the leaked script that I remember
    I read through it really fast

    You are correct. That would just be beyond excessive...

    I think enough has happened in the previous movies and artifacts have been left lying around to assume that the right people know enough about what’s going on. Not a secret, but not something that the general public knows about. I imagine the latter part will probably change after this movie.
  15. Huggs
    Whoops, got Alice's character name from I am Legend confused with the one from Predators. I meant Isabelle, not Anna. Boy, you can tell which one of the two I just watched.
  16. Hollywood
    What if Hopper was his uncle or something? 😉

    I doubt he's directly related to anyone in previous predator lore but perhaps he makes reference to the events of the original based on whispers through the military just like Isabelle.
  17. The Wolverine Predator
    If Anna knew about it, makes sense that others will.

    True, just really curious

     
    Obviously he is Dutch's son...

    I thought about this awhile ago, but didn't read that anywhere in the leaked script that I remember
    I read through it really fast

  18. Huggs
    Ok, I might have missed something somewhere, but what kind of Connection would Quinn McKenna have to the original?

    This is from the Collider article Hicks posted:

    Holbrook teased a connection to the original film through his character, who is familiar with the Predator lore. “I’ve seen something, and maybe there is a familiarity. I wouldn’t want to say that he’s a UFO conspiracy theorist, but he’s heard of things and seen things, and that may be a reference to the original. So that’s the reference to the original, which we are of keeping in lineage.”



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    If Anna knew about it in Predators, makes sense that others will. I hope nobody winds up being related to Arnold, that would just be too much.
  19. The Wolverine Predator
    Ok, I might have missed something somewhere, but what kind of Connection would Quinn McKenna have to the original?

    This is from the Collider article Hicks posted:

    Holbrook teased a connection to the original film through his character, who is familiar with the Predator lore. “I’ve seen something, and maybe there is a familiarity. I wouldn’t want to say that he’s a UFO conspiracy theorist, but he’s heard of things and seen things, and that may be a reference to the original. So that’s the reference to the original, which we are of keeping in lineage.”



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  20. Wysps
    It's intriguing, but not something I necessarily wanted :laugh:  Definitely more used to the sparsely clothed, organic tribal design.  The coverage and placement of the armor is sort of questionable - the entire chest and back?  (Sure we saw it in AVP, but they were younger hunters and the situation probably called for more armor...)  It is pretty "cool" though, if that's what they're going for.
  21. The Shuriken
    I like both styles of armor. There's been only one extensively armored Predator on the big screen (Scar), so I look forward to more armored Predators. I'd really like to see the Captured Predator in full view already. So far it seems to be the one good thing I'm into.
  22. yautjapet
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    When Trish Monaghan shows us the new armor she’s designed for the Predator, for instance, it has a medieval quality to its design, as if it belongs to a ritualized order of knights. One element she is particularly proud of is his new armor his back-flap, evoking feudal Japan.

    “It’s a bit Samurai, so it was able to cover, so he wasn’t too exposed,” she says of how it covers some of the musculature in the legs while still showcasing the familiar shape of what Schwarzenegger memorably deemed to be “one ugly motherf**ker.”

    Hmm, can't say I'm thrilled about more structured armor with the predator being "less exposed." I've always liked the more minimal, organic, tribal feel. I am intrigued to see it in full, though!
  23. Xerxész
    I don't know. I still stay my opinion that you can say everything you want in order to attract the audience...it's simple marketing. But what you got finally, that's the real thing.
    I say wait for the movie and after that you can praise Shane if he deserves.
  24. The Wolverine Predator
    http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/273522/the-predator-reinventing-the-myth-on-the-set

    http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/273544/the-predator-olivia-munn-finds-god-and-a-good-role-among-aliens

    Mostly the same stuff but there was a little bit about the new Predator design -

    Quote
    When Trish Monaghan shows us the new armor she’s designed for the Predator, for instance, it has a medieval quality to its design, as if it belongs to a ritualized order of knights. One element she is particularly proud of is his new armor his back-flap, evoking feudal Japan.

    “It’s a bit Samurai, so it was able to cover, so he wasn’t too exposed,” she says of how it covers some of the musculature in the legs while still showcasing the familiar shape of what Schwarzenegger memorably deemed to be “one ugly motherf**ker.”

    I defiantly loves these parts of the article


    “It does play a little slower, maybe like a Western, which would lend itself to that fear factor.” It also is a promising departure from the original film, which Holbrook says he’s a fan of—and that Shane Black apparently had running on loop for two weeks in the production office of the film before shooting started—but the star repeatedly demurs at comparisons with his Quinn to Arnold Schwarzenegger’s Übermensch in the original 1987 picture.

    Intriguingly, this extra dimension came intentionally from pushing the cast to via improvise and self-edit. Recalling how the first draft risked being a 150 pages long, Black says he turned to Fred Dekker and said they can’t define seven characters in dialogue; they have to cast them.

    When Trish Monaghan shows us the new armor she’s designed for the Predator, for instance, it has a medieval quality to its design, as if it belongs to a ritualized order of knights. One element she is particularly proud of is his new armor his back-flap, evoking feudal Japan.

    “It’s a bit Samurai, so it was able to cover, so he wasn’t too exposed,” she says of how it covers some of the musculature in the legs while still showcasing the familiar shape of what Schwarzenegger memorably deemed to be “one ugly motherf++ker.”

    Were you able to do any improv on the set?

    On this movie, yeah. That’s what’s so great about Shane: he’s an actor’s director and he’s also a writer. So a lot of times writers can be so married to a script, and a lot of times a director looks at the script as a Bible, but then you end up losing a lot of life that comes up that you wouldn’t normally capture on camera. I’ve worked with directors where they shoot this, they shoot this, and then they go back into the editing bay, and they test it for the audience, and they go, “I love that character, that small character, did you get that?” But they didn’t get it, because they weren’t shooting.

    So this movie, there’s been so much collaboration and just in the moment, just everyone coming up with stuff and thinking of stuff, and being present, that helps make the movie feel really fun and fresh, and alive.

  25. Corporal Hicks
    http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/273522/the-predator-reinventing-the-myth-on-the-set

    http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/273544/the-predator-olivia-munn-finds-god-and-a-good-role-among-aliens

    Mostly the same stuff but there was a little bit about the new Predator design -

    Quote
    When Trish Monaghan shows us the new armor she’s designed for the Predator, for instance, it has a medieval quality to its design, as if it belongs to a ritualized order of knights. One element she is particularly proud of is his new armor his back-flap, evoking feudal Japan.

    “It’s a bit Samurai, so it was able to cover, so he wasn’t too exposed,” she says of how it covers some of the musculature in the legs while still showcasing the familiar shape of what Schwarzenegger memorably deemed to be “one ugly motherf**ker.”
  26. Batalien
    Frankly the reason they got away with the twist was because Mandarin is really not an important villain. His last appearance was six years ago where he was killed by son of Obadiah Stane. Even before that he never really made a impact or had any lasting effect in Marvel universe.

    Also ever since Avengers movie happened and turned Tony Stark into A level superhero. Iron Man is now always in front and center of crossovers and mega-events. He no longer has time to deal with foes in his rogue gallery, where honestly everyone else except Mandarin, sucks.

    I never really heard of someone calling themselves Mandarin fan. It surprises me that people are still upset over Mandarin twist. I believe China had something to do with no wanting real Mandarin since even though Mandarin got a modernized revamp origin, his original story was always a racist Fu-Manchu stereotype.
  27. skull-splitter
    Hi the Mandarin twist was freaking brilliant and one of the best decisions ever made in the MCU.


    They decided to completely delete an entire character.. not sure that qualifies as a great decision.
    Could easily do a double twist and have him come back.

    Not very plausible though and this twist made the Mandarin in his final form through Guy Pierce a very generic evil mastermind.
  28. Johnny Handsome
    Hi the Mandarin twist was freaking brilliant and one of the best decisions ever made in the MCU.

    They decided to completely delete an entire character.. not sure that qualifies as a great decision.
    It does, instead of giving us another cliché super evil boogeyman, shooting rings from outer space they grounded it much more in reality, because most real life villains come with suits and pencils.
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