Stacey Snider, the current chief-executive-officer of 20th Century Fox talked a little about the future of the Alien franchise in a new interview with Variety. While the interview covers a large range of topics, interviewer Brent Lang pointed out the disappointment over Alien: Covenant’s box office takings and asked if the franchise was now over. In response, Snider told him:
“It was a disappointment, but I trust Ridley [Scott] and Emma [Watts] to know the right story when they find it. When universes are as rich as “Alien,” they can stay in a too familiar groove — in which case you’re in trouble — but they can also find a planet or a storyline or a villain that also lives in that universe that can be groundbreaking.”
Two months ago it was reported that Fox was reconsidering its options with future Alien films following the disappointment over Alien: Covenant’s earnings at the box office. While it wasn’t really a failure – current earnings stand at $236 million against a budget of $97 million – it wasn’t the success that Fox where likely after.
Stacey Snider, the current chief-executive-officer of 20th Century Fox talked a little about the future of the Alien franchise in a new interview with Variety.
Talking about the situation and potential future films, Fred Baron recently told the Sydney Morning Herald: “It got great reviews and was everything we set out for it to be, it just didn’t hit the note at the box office. It will be a profitable film for the studio but whether there’s another one [is uncertain].”
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Bottom of the article says The Cartel begins filming in January.
He deserves 2 months of vacation.
He could made Covenant 2 in 2018.
Who knows?. Ridley Scott works so fast that he could be directing 5 or 6 big movies before he retires.
Couple out on Youtube.
Listening to one now: Michael Fassbender interview - Talk "The Snowman" by TORYmax
Says he just finished X-Men and is taking the rest of the year off. Nothing about a Covenant or a possible sequel.
Yeah, he wanted to produce several Blade Runner sequels:
https://www.polygon.com/2017/9/5/16254616/blade-runner-alien-covenant-short-films
I think when Luke said the next one coming up he meant short BR anime Black Out 2022 made by Watanabe.
He did say Covenant 2 will start in 14 months back in May. That would be about mid next year.
I listened to the whole thing. He confirms it's NOT the ALIEN sequel. Earlier in the conversation, he essentially rules out the Battle of Britain as well.
My money is on The Cartel.
And i hope he does Covenant2/Prometheus3 sooner rather than later.
The Cartel?.
I prefer Battle Of Britain.
At 54:30 Scott starts talking about Covenant. He says it did well at box office (sic!) and in two weeks time we gonna find out about his next movie (not All The Money In The World).
I loved a lot of the concept art in the Gallery section and it would be sick to see if any of that stuff was given any context in the early drafts.
My favorite is the storyboard where the crew member breathes in these sparkly spores from an Alien flower and he immediately mutates into a an Alien/tree hybrid.
Paradise, the movie they skipped.
David and Shaw arrive, get involved in conflict between good and evil Engineers, movie ends with David destroying Engineers.
Covenant
Similar to what we got but the first part would be shorter. Less time on the ship and problems occure faster after landing.
More time spend on David and his gallery (bigger in early draft) and on his secret room with Shaw drawings and experiments (also in early draft).
Perhaps Advent style flashback once David gets busted, actually showing what happened to Shaw. David unleashes his creatures (shown in concept art).
From here everything else might have been the same or similar.
Hopefully they'll crop up some day.
I disagree.
Ridley Scott is a great action director.
I love BLACK HAWK DOWN and BLACK RAIN.
I wouldnt be in favor of not completing the story. This franchise is a mess precisely for that reason IMO. But something stripped down and simple sounds like a plan to me. And as the above poster says "High concept."
I agree, I wouldn't mind Scott just hanging back a bit, picking up 4-5 good quality actors, put and Alien in it, See what you can pull off. Screw the naysayers about same old, I'd like to see him do a smaller budget horror again, I don't need anymore space goo or Engineers.
With the budget issues a sequel will grapple with, an Alien chasing 6 people around a ship is likely. And Im thinking Ridley Scott is not a great ACTION director. He is better with style and slow-burn. Look at his best SCI FI works. Even The Martian is a slow burn. Blade Runner, Alien, etc. That's what he should be doing.
That's not too mention that I feel both Prequels are missing the claustrophobic atmosphere of the first few films.
I think that a smaller, contained, suspense heavy film is a great idea.
I'll buy into this stuff if it's explained or implied well in the story. If it's just another "because David did it ....check out this short on the Blu Ray" then yeah I'm not gona like it much.
*In Ridley we trust*
If Scott insists on having David be a host (urgh), he'd need to have David actually become biological in some fashion or another for it to not be even more of a slap-in the face of the lore.
That said, I'm not sure David would do it intentionally given his disdain for his biological creators. Perhaps as an accident as a result of his experimentation with the accelerant. Maybe some sort of poetic justice type thing?
There's stuff in David writings about the Engineers about it:
"While the Engineers have definitely taken steps to evolve their genetic structure and durability they curiously maintain a strange deference to the sanctity of their original pre-technological state."
Perhaps he unknowingly infects himself during the upgrade process. With the black goo being unpredictable.
Awakening on a ship would be to plain. I think at least we'll get an Aliens type movie with Engineers inserted.
Or a sweet full blown spectacle conclusion of sorts. That's more of wish than a guess.
Btw, whacky theories? Me?
Uuuh... Huh huh, huh huh.
My speculation on this curiosity is flawed mainly because I'm trying to apply human appetite to an alien appetite, if it can even be described as such.
When my "leech" feels something warm and moist, it moves in its direction also .........
[sorry for the beavis/butthead humor, I couldn't resist)
Usually don't agree with your whacky theories! But.... David somehow trying to make himself more human would slightly fit with the themes of the movies. I could actually see that being a possibility and kind of freaky at the same time. The whole Pinocchio becoming a real boy theme.
There's a chance though we are over thinking this and Awakening will be an Alien chasing 6 people around a ship.
I'm guess black goo because that would fit in the with strange appearance of the jockey.
In earlier drafts of Prometheus and Covenant there's mention of how the eggs/facehuggers react to the breath of natural biological living beings.
Leeches do something similar in real life. If they feel warm, moist air they move in its direction.
Interesting. So the choice is based on plot it seems. I'm not sure if that makes me happy or worried. I guess we can presume then that David does "upgrade" the Alien somehow. Unless the eggs on the original Derilict are laid after he's dead.
It could be a case that the ship is actually empty at the time of the Space Jockey chest burst then filled by that Queen.
Although that wouldnt explain the Blue lasers.
From Chris Seagers, production designer on Covenant:
http://collider.com/alien-covenant-spoilers-things-to-know/
Negative. Busting a rule in the prequel is different from busting a rule in a sequel. Unless David is not responsible for the eggs on the original derilict.
The rules are just there as a guide. As somebody said the rules are meant to be broken. You follow the rules, it becomes predictable.
Where's the quote about working towards it.
Based on statements from the filmmakers about the Alien being out of anyone's control, engineers discovering a decimated homeworld, and deliberately toning down the biomechanical aesthetic because they're working towards it in the next installment, I'd guess the idea was to bring back engineers suited up as they were in Prometheus for the final touches to the Alien. It won't be David's doing.
The Covenant xeno isn't different enough for me for it to be plot.
...and Ridley will tell us the new film is going to "scare the living shit out of you."
So why didn't he do it already? He could survive the chestbursting and repair himself ad nauseum without ever waiting for human hosts.
For the same reason they don't use other inanimate objects, I imagine. Jonesy was spared as well.
I've always been curious why xenos consider synthetic biology off the menu? I prefer real hamburger, but I would eat a tofu burger if I was hungry enough.
Not a fitting analogy I suppose to what seems a rhetorical question considering no cinema source explaining why xenos turn their nose up to a synthetic food/host source.
Could explain why the Aliens Became more Bio-mechanical? Didn't Ridley say though the Alien was intentionally not supposed to look Biomechanic in Covenant?
Again... If David is the dude who made the Aliens Bio-mechanical later on.. And He Already made the first batch of Alien Eggs without a Queen or Xenomorhph Present. And the dude loves playing God.. Who's to say he doesn't "Engineer" a Specific Face-Hugger to go after Robot(s) Such as himself? Or intentionally impregnates himself to be the "God" of the newer Generation of Bio-mechanical Xenomorphs?
Covenant pretty much told us that David is the one who started the whole Egg thing. So the Eggs in the Derelict at this point are a product of David's invention. Without a Queen or Drone Present for Egg Morphing.. And we have a Mini-XenoMorpth that can grow and dance into a full Alien within Minutes it seems..
But we'll see how they Handle with "Crossing of the Bridge" To Alien. Because we still have a Space Jockey? In the Derelict with a Cargo full of Eggs. And a Science Officer who was Replaced by Ash Two days before Nostromo left Thedus.. How the Prequels connect to Alien is still wideeeeee open plot wise.
I believe Ridley said something about having a road map planned out so he obviously has some idea of where he wants it to go. But then they apparently also discussed sequels while Prometheus was filming and we all know how that changed. I wouldn't be surprised to find that Covenant also faces similar rethinking, especially in light of the "when he finds the right story" comment from Snider.