Last night Empire shared the subscriber exclusive Alien: Covenant cover via their Twitter (h/t to Pvt. Himmel for posting). That issue is now arriving through subscribers mailboxes this morning and thanks to Alien vs. Predator Galaxy community member Gazz we have some images of the new article. And it’s full of new stills and information. Beware spoilers.
The new stills include the scene shown at CinemaCon where David bombs the Engineer city, the Neomorphs and a newborn Alien. The article itself is also full of new information, including some comments from John Logan about returning back to the Alien, the Covenant’s original destination being a planet called Origae-6 and plenty more!
“Ridley Scott soon returns to the Alien universe he began in 1979 with the latest instalment: Alien: Covenant. To mark the occasion, we’ve welcomed the iconic xenomorph back to the cover of the world’s biggest movie magazine. As usual, Empire subscribers are getting their own limited edition design; here’s what will be landing on their doormats this month.
Designed by graphic designer Jacey, the cover features Scott’s fearful creature in gorgeously-designed embossed cardboard, featuring the famous quote from the original film: “Unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality…”
We’ll have some better quality copies up when the issue is available digitally. Keep a close eye on Alien vs. Predator Galaxy for the latest on Alien: Covenant! You can follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram to get the latest on your social media walls. You can also join in with fellow Alien fans on our forums!
Update: PDF Attached.
This scene is going to be incredible, I wonder when it will arrive in the film!
That shot of David bombing the engineers looks pretty awesome.
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Fox care that why their work with comics/novel writer to make sure story didn't conflict with movies.
and their release wayland book report that mention/reference game/novel/comic that release on 2014-15
From Queen i guess ?,in river of pain novel newt parent found remains of a Queen (and an Engineer) on the ship
You make a lot of sense Fernandito. I remain optimistic that this "ancient terror" angle can be revived in the next installment because, as others have pointed out in this thread, if everything can be wrapped up by David did it/the Engineers are gone then it reduces the scope of what was introduced in Alien by magnitudes.
But, this is all conjecture. Covenant is still not out, and no one here has seen it. For all we know, David decides to reverse engineer something that the Engineers stole (as referenced by Wayne Haag) another species (the Jockeys from Alien... I know, I know... they're supposed to be the Engineers now..).
Also, is there any evidence that the accelerant David uses is from the Citadel or something he brought from the ship?
Must be 100 years old doesnt count for it really to be that old, it could easily be that it rapidly lost energy and decaded very fast, its an assumption people like to make with that Kane line.
Why is it wrong to think they wanted revenge? maybe they wanted to go to Earth to perfect us more, or wipe us out like the dinosaurs, what if the ants in your ant farm kill you pet cat, i would capture those ants and poor liquid hot plastic over them.
The engineers are advanced but for a race to be advanced doesnt mean they cant be vengeancefull, we have our social responsible behaviour on a healthy level, but we like war, we like fights we like action and mystery we like science and it would be even more cool if we could experiment on living things, and on the other side what if a cult got the ability to get in to space and have free power in everything, would they restrict themselves with ethical stuff? i dont think so, they would rip through the galaxy and try to be the best at what they are, and the rest is just prey and experimental tissue.
Impossible since the jockey retconning in Prometheus I know. But It was a good fools errand uh, and btw the original one coming directly from the Matermind. Giger
who is ridly scot?
Where would you have the eggs come from then?
I sincerely doubt that any member of the audience thought "Oh, Dallas is only saying that being looks fossilized, but I bet it's really only been there a couple of years". Dallas' comment is intended to make the viewer believe that the Space Jockey in Alien is ancient.
I for one cannot agree that the derelict was on a revenge mission to Earth because of David's actions. If that happens the entire universe has been reduced pitifully.
And to top it off, a twatty robot from Earth is going to be responsible for the creation of the once gorgeously exotic alien, and the Engineers are going to refine it? I know this is all conjecture but if this is where the story is headed I'm completely out if it does happen.
A suit. Ok Sir Scott ook oooooookk It was a suit lol
And the guy that said that in the film (Alien) only said it looks fossilized, it wasnt a statement nor was it a scientific fact.
One thing we can agree on is that the derelict was on a revenge mission to Earth as for what David did to the engineers in Covenant, and that is to bomb us back, but this time with xeno eggs.
And in the end maybe the engineers perfected the xenomorph, giving it the tubes and mechanical look like their suits.
I agree..
At this point there are three things that would make me very happy in order of importance to me.
1) Make it obvious that the Xeno/Neo/Deacon type creatures are ancient and were known to the Engineers. David is simply attempting to re-create some ancient soufflé. Even better yet if it was an ancient creation designed to kill the Engineers.
2) Give some answer to the motives of the Engineers. It doesn't need to be Earth centric, but it would be interesting to know their motives behind seeding life and doing planetary scale "resets". What are they trying to accomplish? Are they trying to save their civilization by creating themselves? In a way it makes sense that the sacrificial Engineer would be the most perfect example of an Engineer.
3) Where did the goo come from? Is this a creation of the Engineers, or from some beings higher up the ladder. The writing on the urns is stylistically very different from the cuneiform type writings we see around the facility in Prometheus (giant head, sleep pod controls, doors)
Don't misundestand me I've always hated egg morphing with a passion, but I hate the queen a thousand times more
These'll do until I can get signal on my phone.
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Its way to presumptuous and simplistic to think that David will be responsible for absolutely everything. Obviously he has and will have an influence on the proceedings but I expect the story to develop further in future films and I certainly don't see David being solely responsible for the Derelict.
The "Alien Bible" seems to be a solid indication of where they're going with the films. As well as Logan having a ten page treatment.
Or Scott has it all planned out and when we get to the final prequel all our questions will be answered.
If this is actually the case (I'm not 100% sure it is but it's certainly plausible) it paints them into an extremely tight corner in terms of prequelizing the original Alien. David will have to get ahold of an engineer ship after leaving Paradise at the end of Covenant and load it full of his eggs somehow. So consequently the Engineers will have to come back into play on some level.
I'd venture that it's also entirely possible they have more up their sleeve. Doesn't the article claim that Logan has a 10-page treatment already?
Ridley already says that the Engineers didn't create the Alien. The Engineers seem to have the Accelerant - they wouldn't have any need for the Alien. So that leaves us with either David or something else. Enter the Elder Gods (I think).
IMO all the explanation we ever needed for the alien or the derelict was in the original film and Prometheus. Ridley spent decades gabbing in print, commentary, interviews etc. saying flat-out that the alien was a bioweapon bred by the Engineers/jockeys that got out of control and contributed to wiping them out, much like it did the space jockey on LV-426. Prometheus backs all of this up onscreen by presenting another incident of widespread disaster that contributed to the same wipeout of the Engineer species; more bioweapons that were uncontrollable and helped kill them off. Everything Janek, etc. says in the film contributes to that same thesis Ridley has been pushing since the '70s. It was easy enough to connect the dot between what is uncovered in Prometheus back to events in Alien.
But when Prometheus got a mixed reception and Ridley was out of ideas for the sequel, he moved to directly prequelizing the original film and changing it up - now we have this new latter-day twist with David, and it sounds a lot like he is going to say that David made it all happen, not the Engineers/space jockeys. I think they're fixing what wasn't broken, and breaking it. I just hope they leave room to say David merely copied the creature the Engineers already created. It's all so unnecessary, but for hardcore nerds who love fan service it'll be a squeefest.
Depends on how things are left at the conclusion of Covenant. If he did create them and there's some implication that Engineers are extinct (hypothetically), yes, that would create continuity questions that would need addressing.
The scale difference between the jockey/Engineer in Alien and the suited Engineer in Prometheus is likely just due to Ridley & co. preferring to shoot live with an actor rather than go through the trouble with FX work to exactly match the scale of the original (which was played fast and loose to begin with).
As for future movies and how they deal or don't with the Derelict, who knows? It depends on how definitively David is being positioned as the creator of the xenomorph as we know it.
It's also very possible that they'll sidestep the issue of the Derelict in some way. We'll just have to see.
I agree, it totally doesn't need an explanation if the Alien is ancient and David isn't actually the creator. But if he is the reason for the classic Alien we know, then it'll need to be explained how the eggs got on LV-426 because David would have direct involvement in that happening, no?
Like I said, I don't think David is the creator. And if the Alien is ancient, I'm fine with never knowing how the Eggs and the Derelict got there because it can easily be assumed what happened.
There doesn't need to be an explanation. It'd be interesting to see what they might come up with - but as things stand, if it's left unexplained, it's not really an issue.
There needs to be an explanation as to how those eggs got there under the Derelict in Alien. And if we do get an explanation, that means we have, at the very least, one last Space Jockey/Engineer to see on screen. They aren't all dead after Covenant. Especially if the Alien is simply a product of an android playing Frankenstein for 10 years.
Otherwise, if those eggs and the Derelict truly are a millenia old, then that would disprove David as the creator and instead make him the recreator and it changes the Accelerant into a template/blueprint byproduct of the Alien.
No, he said they didn't create the Alien. But clearly the Alien has been around for thousands of years. Which is why I believe whoever created the Engineers also created the Alien to destroy the Engineers.
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The Engineers, in turn, were able to weaponize the Alien and created the much more controllable, but equally dangerous Accelerant and destoyed their own Gods.
If the poster is an actual relief sculpture the crew finds in the Engineer city, that's clear indication the Alien is ancient. It's part of their history.
"AI cannot be authentically creative." - RS
Didnt ridly scot say that the Engineers didnt create humans?
He adjusted it in Alien too - depending on the camera angle.
LIES! DECEPTION!
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Time to give up the dream, man.
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I went through all pics of alien convenant and the burned corpses i seen where in facted very big and muscular, indicating they actually are true engineers. Also the pic with the engineers close to the temple, the first image released, shows the genitalias to.. it is all very specific.. if you examine it rigt younwill see this.. small to for engineers lol.. but yeah definitely engineers.
In fact, the Grey Child does have hands similar to the Xenomorph and a head like the Predator.
http://silenthill.wikia.com/wiki/Grey_Child
In the shot with Rosenthal getting attacked indoors in the recent spot, it looks remarkably like a monster from any number of J-horror games from that era, as well as a number of cheesy horror movies emulating that look in the last 17 years. That's all I'm saying. I love the smaller neomorph's look and I hope the full grown comes off better in full frame.
I don't think so. I think we've seen all the creatures we're going to get.
Ah okay, didn't know since I haven't read the Twohy script. Thanks for clarifying.