Meet Walter – New Alien: Covenant Viral Video

Quote from: Scorpio on Mar 08, 2017, 11:39:31 PM
Walter is a bit lame, I hope David kills him.

Quote from: windebieste on Mar 08, 2017, 10:30:59 PM
The 'Modern Prometheus' says it all.

-Windebieste.

Spoiler

Maybe there is a scene where David opens Walters scull to transfer his
memory into his AMD powered system Or maybe Walter is the evil guy... I more and more think
that there is something far more sinister behind his character.

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QuoteFrankenstein points the Faustian moral to Walton: "Learn from me, if not by my precepts, at least by my example, how dangerous is the acquirement of knowledge, and how much happier that man is who believes his native town to be the world, than he who aspires to become greater than his nature will allow" (p. 53). But this moral— particularly appropriate to the realistic novel— is argued very ambivalently. Even the monster repeats the argument (as he must, being Frankenstein's alter ego): "Increase of knowledge only discovered to me more clearly what a wretched outcast I was" (p. 131). As his knowledge grows, he cries out: "Oh, that I had for ever remained in my native wood, nor known nor felt beyond the sensation of hunger, thirst, and heat!" (p. 120). Yet Mary Shelley knows, as the monster learned, that there is no returning to innocence; the rhetoric implies that the innocence is a lie,  and that the disaster that follows its loss is as inevitable as the loss itself. "Of what a strange nature is knowledge! It clings to the mind, when it has once seized on it, like a lichen on the rock. I wished sometimes to shake off all thought and feeling; but I learned that there was but one means to overcome the sensation of pain, and that was death" (p. 120). The monster knows that only silence ends the disparity between word and life. Frankenstein, however, cannot give up the quest or insist unambiguously on the moral of his story. His last speech is a masterpiece of doubt: "Farewell, Walton!" he says. "Seek happiness in tranquillity, and avoid ambition, even if it be only the apparently innocent one of distinguishing yourself in science and discoveries. Yet why do I say this? I have myself been blasted in these hopes, yet another may succeed" (pp. 217-18). Death is the only resolution, and yet it resolves nothing since knowledge and innocence are continuing aspects of human experience. The tension worked out in Frankenstein between ambition and natural harmony, as between creator and creature, mind and reality, is not resolved.

Quote from: Enoch on Mar 08, 2017, 07:41:18 PM
https://i.imgur.com/8ZJ0sdA.png

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F17r1l63fshd52dy9yakdizhkog.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F10%2FFrankenstein-1931-645x370.jpg&hash=028a689f4e23e3993debd02e2cc65f6629be05f3

I posted this few days ago

Quote from: Enoch on Mar 08, 2017, 07:08:21 PM

Quote"'Learn from me, if not by my precepts, at least by my example, how dangerous is the acquirement of knowledge and how much happier that man is who believes his native town to be the world, than he who aspires to become greater than his nature will allow,'"  chapter 4 of Frankenstein by Mary Shelley; originally titled The Modern Prometheus

Quote from: Enoch on Mar 08, 2017, 07:16:43 PM

Quote from: echobbase79 on Mar 08, 2017, 07:15:36 PM

I hope it's similar to the David 8 viral video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvXKN5Fz_OE

I think this one will be a bit ominous... because Walter is a straightforward robot...
After all he is the one to quote the lines from Mary Shelley's novel... Thats spooky by itself.

Quote from: Enoch on Mar 08, 2017, 07:16:43 PM

Quote from: echobbase79 on Mar 08, 2017, 07:15:36 PM

I hope it's similar to the David 8 viral video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvXKN5Fz_OE

I think this one will be a bit ominous... because Walter is a straightforward robot...
After all he is the one to quote the lines from Mary Shelley's novel... Thats spooky by itself.

Quote from: echobbase79 on Mar 08, 2017, 07:15:36 PM

I hope it's similar to the David 8 viral video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvXKN5Fz_OE

QuoteVictor has tried to play God, has tried -- in fact -- to be like the Titan Prometheus, who stepped in to help his brother Epimetheus create humankind when Epimetheus mistakenly made all of the animals first, giving them all the "good" qualities (i.e. thick hide or fur to protect them, sharp teeth and claws to help them to eat, etc.).  Prometheus had to get creative to come up with qualities that would help us to be the best: he made us walk upright like the gods, and he gave us the fire that would help defend us from the cold and help us to cook the meat that our teeth could not otherwise chew.  Victor has tried to create a new human species, a species that he expected would "bless him as its Creator."  He wanted to perfect something that he saw as imperfect -- human frailty and fragility -- but he learned, too late, that human beings are not meant to create in this way: his creation turns out to be horrifying, perhaps in part because it was made by an imperfect (i.e. human) creator.  Thus, when Victor describes the dangers of striving to be "'greater than [one's] nature will allow,'" he also refers to the dangers of a human being who tries to play God. Victor's hubris results in tragedy for so many people, including himself and the individual he creates.

Quote from: Enoch on Mar 08, 2017, 07:08:21 PM

Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 08, 2017, 07:06:53 PM
Walter is American. David is British.

Thats because they wanted to create distinction between the two.

Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 08, 2017, 07:06:53 PM
Walter is American. David is British.

Quote"'Learn from me, if not by my precepts, at least by my example, how dangerous is the acquirement of knowledge and how much happier that man is who believes his native town to be the world, than he who aspires to become greater than his nature will allow,'"  chapter 4 of Frankenstein by Mary Shelley; originally titled The Modern Prometheus