We have just uploaded the 46th episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast (right-click and save as to download). Our latest episode of the podcast sees us discussing the latest news about Neill Blomkamp’s Alien 5, that we may not even be getting the film at all.
In January Neill Blomkamp commented that the chances of seeing his Alien 5 come to fruition were “slim“. This news was something that disappointed a lot of people and pleased just as many others. Our latest podcast includes a discussion of this news and the over all concept of the film by podcast regulars Corporal Hicks, RidgeTop and Xenomorphine.
If you are one of the fans who is really disappointed about the possibly of not seeing Neill Blomkamp’s project make it to the big screen, there is currently a petition in progress to show 20th Century Fox that there are fans who are still interested in seeing it made. You can add your voice to it over on iPetitions.
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If they would just make the film everyone wants and set it in the future, they could bill it as a "Colonial Marines" movie.
It's not so much that the series needs Ripley. Or Hicks. Folks just want to see those characters get a better turn than they got in Alien³.
Then the content would of course further elevate it provided it's good. Don't approach it in a crossover manner. Approach it like any other film. Story story story first.
I pointed out the opposing response to my argument and said it was correct...
Even if it did somehow work (which as I previously said I doubt that it would) I'd still be against it because of my detestment of the idea.
I was speaking of film crossovers, not comic ones. I have no problem with the crossovers as long as they stay in the extended universe.
The comics didn't.
The reasoned response to that is 'just because the existing AvP films don't work, doesn't mean they couldn't in the future'. Which is completely correct. There are ways to get the balance right so the respective franchises aren't weakened (something like the first comic series would work). The first major obstacle is the title. It does reek of desperation, not to mention it screams "cheap". It sounds like a boxing match. I'm not sure you can get round that, which means it would be up to the actual content to elevate the title.
I never said that it didn't. What I meant was that most crossovers such as AVP don't.
If someone said "It! The Terror From Beyond Space" didn't deserve A-treatment, we never would've received Alien.
There's really no reason to hate the AVP concept. It's a B-movie idea for sure, but so was Alien, right? Just like Alien, it deserves the A-movie treatment.
I don't know what FOX thought they were doing with the first two "vs" films, but those definitely weren't A-level treatments.
I've always wished that Aliens Vs Predator had been made as a sequel to Aliens. Similarly, I'd love to see Blomkamp follow up A5 with a new AVP. Would love to see Rip n Hicks to encounter the predators.
As do I.
It's the former. He doesn't like the concept, itself and thinks both series should stay away from one another.
Exactly - the films have not done the AvP concept any measure of justice. I do think there is potential for a good movie... but it has to be done right and the right way to do it is NOT the way the movies have done it.
A clear majority.
To be honest who doesn't like the AVP concept as it has been depicted on film so far? I wonder if his feelings is due to not liking the idea of the two franchises intermingling or is it due to execution of the idea? If it's the former... not much can be done to change his mind there. If it's the latter, then I wonder if he might not be able to be convinced into doing it by showing him the AvP comics. He may not even be aware of the comics if it's a matter of disliking the idea due to the execution of the movies....
He's on record as heavily disliking the AVP concept.
I think this is the primary reason for it. Prometheus did well but it wasn't an Alien branded film. We don't know how well Covenant is going to do and it feels like they would have tested the water with Covenant being an Alien film with Scott's name attached to it. But they also waited to long and everyone has moved on.
It's like you said, Aliens isn't Star Wars. Aliens may do well enough but it doesn't do guaranteed Star Wars levels of return.
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Best hope now is something akin to Mad Max: Fury Road Trip!
Fox are going to be interested in targeting today's audience more than yesterday's. 'PROMETHEUS' was proof of that. 'ALIEN: Covenant' will bring the rest of the series (and its fans) kicking and screaming into the 21st Century whether they like it or not.
Personally, I am looking forward to seeing how this new generation of 'ALIEN' movies unfolds. There's a lot of potential and promise here. It doesn't have to lean heavily on retconning anything. It doesn't need aged characters returning. You can still have running gun battles with Aliens and I'm sure we will see that happen.
Does it need Ripley, Newt and/or Hicks? Nope. We're better off without them at this late stage. This is one of those cases where History should stay where it belongs - in the past.
-Windebieste.
I don't want another film that is so bad that i have to pretend it doesn't exist, like the avp films. That said blomkamps worst effort would still produce something better than the avp's I think.
Fox doesn't pay everything out of their own pocket. They usually have one or more co-financiers.
Don't Predators, Terminators, Robocop and Batman all exist in the same world too? I wan't to see THAT shyte on the big screen.
Most downbeat campaign slogan ever.
And yet at one point she insisted they kill Ripley off because she didn't want to keep playing her.
People change their minds.
Perhaps Blomkamp could make a film called Aliens #2: The Twitter Interloper.
Releasing his fan art online as if it was "Oh, What Could Have Been, Hicks and Newt Fans Wink Wink" was such a poor show on his behalf. He only has himself to blame.
But I don't know. I just want more movies.
This way, if 'ALIEN: Covenant' bombs - or breaks even - they're not risking a further $150m on another movie that not only MUST be successful but make up the differences, shortfalls and losses of the first one. It's just too much to ask. If 'A:C' is successful, we'll see a sequel to 'Covenant' - not Blomkamp's Quarter of a Century old overdue sequel.
People are divided over Blomkamp's proposal as it is. Some want it. Some don't. That's no guarantee for success.
Would've been Great...
...in 1988.
-Windebieste.
Filthy casuals, ruin it for everyone
It's likely Fox liked the script. Good things were said about it by everyone who may have been involved. A script that good doesn't just get handed out as consolation. It ends up being integrated into a new work. If the main thrust of the plot can be reworked to accommodate alternate characters, then this may yet happen. Blomkamp's 'ALIEN' movie may yet still be made. It just may not feature the Ripley, Hicks and Newt trio.
I'm still thinking Blomkamp is a good choice for a director and absolutely nothing is known about the followup to 'ALIEN: Covenant'. It wouldn't surprise me if Scott hands over the reigns to direct the next movie to Blomkamp and we see significant content from his current script find its way into the next movie.
If Blomkamp's script is as 'gangbusters' as people claim it to be, then I believe that's a reasonable outcome.
-Windebieste.
I honestly don't give a shit. I'm a fan and just want well made movies about the alien and it's universe. Why? Because it's interesting. However Alien: Covenant is essentially alien 5 and from the sounds of it, whether it succeeds or not is up to whether people want to see the Alien in all it's glory of not. Cause that's what this movie sounds like, an Alien film.
The problem is, Weaver is on record stating she doesn't want to play the clone in a future film. It's the original Ripley or nothing for her.
That's why a direct 'Resurrection' sequel with Ripley is not possible.