Shane Black talks about The Predator costume design in a new article from SuperHeroHype! With Shane Black still doing the press rounds for The Nice Guys (trailer here), we find more details about his next project, The Predator (aka Predator 4) coming out as he inevitably fields questions regarding The Predator during press junkets. In this latest update from SuperHeroHype, Black talks about The Predator costume design:
“It’s not to ‘improve,’ it’s make it fun, make it different, make it organically different. So what’s the extension of it that makes sense, that’s exciting? There have been a lot of changes to Stan’s design over the years. These different Predator movies have done different things. Ultimately it’s not about design to me, it’s about the story you want to tell. There are people who are always going to agonize over Iron Man, what color his suit is. Maybe this weapon does a new thing, but if the story is not good I don’t give a sh*t what color the suit is. In ‘The Predator’ we’re doing a lot of upgrades to what you would consider to be the traditional Predator technology and look, but hopefully the story is what’s going to drag people in, not just the attention to the minutiae.”
So it sounds as if we’ll be seeing a new approach this time around! One of Alien vs. Predator Galaxy’s own will be in attendance at a showing of The Nice Guys with a Q&A with Shane Black where we plan on following up on this with a question about which effects house Shane Black intends to use to design and construct The Predator costume design this time around.
While promoting The Nice Guys, Shane Black has talked about The Predator costume design. Picture is Predators concept art by Joseph C. Pepe.
At the same junket that SuperHeroHype attended, JoBlo was also in attendance and though they didn’t get anything new from Shane Black, they did confirm the recent news regarding when The Predator would shoot and Black talks a little about his mentality in trying to give The Predator back that same feeling of “wonderment, mystery and adventure” that the first Predator had:
“I was reluctant to. If you look at the opening of the first Predator, with the helicopters coming in and landing with the smoke and the native people… It was so compelling because it established a world in which this is still mysterious for you. It’s not a sci-fi world. It was so fresh back then, like a “why didn’t I think of that, what the fuck?” quality to it. I’d like to get back to a movie where it’s three months out and people are like, “Let’s get our tickets now because we’re aware of this, it seems like they put the money and attention into it, it’s not just a knock-off.” Really try to get back to that feeling of wonderment, mystery and adventure. A fresh movie. Without giving away details, that’s been our goal. To say, “What’s the John McTiernan and Joel Silver of this, and how do we get back to that?”
As Shane Black continues to promote The Nice Guys, we will probably hear more and more about The Predator. Stick with Alien vs. Predator Galaxy for the details! Thanks to Johnny Handsome and Kaiju Ninja for the news.
Those look f**king amazing!
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I don't think Shane would go back to the development designs that we created before Stan's involvement but for curiosities sake you can find them here at the bottom of this page. http://www.robertshortfx.com/features.html
They looked like NFL linebackers.
Predators should be built more like muscular basketball players
I think Wolf was great but facially it still had the same issues for me - they just looked too fake. That said, I loved Ian Whyte as the Predators in both of the AvPs, more so in AvPR though.
Personally... I liked them all.
You're not alone, friend... You're not alone. I like them too.
I agree that KNB did far better work on Predators than AMD on AvP.
I think largely it came down to the inexperience of the guys wearing the suits and Crucifieds mandible design/operation.
The AvP Predators I agree with you on. It's the lack of moisture on the skin - it just makes them look too fake. Crucified, I liked. I didn't have a problem with any of the designs from Predators. I never had the same issue with KNBs work.
I love this scene.The eyes looks great in it.First he's knocked out so he seems to be exhausted, and when
he says motherf***r his eyes reflect his hatred.
This it true, still he and his ship-mates look better than anything since lol
Whatever it is, for some reason its stands out to me.
Imagine he drops them off, then gets a bit further away from them and goes hunting.
And then they decapitated him....
While the other one is good for clearing up an infestation and such in AVPR, it was a bit over the top
I dont like the new weapons design seen after p2
I want the p2 disc
Would love to see the Lost Predator (Battle Armor, anyone?) from P2 or something similar. And we have to see a new weapon/armor ability. Make it smart though, not just because something new is exciting.
What weapons do we want to see a return to and what needs to be left in the dust? Personally, I want to see the smart disc return in a less corny display. I love the way it bounces off walls in AvP2!
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Could end up cool or lame.Coin is in the air.
THAT'S what I wanted to say! God, why do I have... such difficulty with my words? UGH! Thank you though!
Yeah. That's exactly what I want to be changed. Go P2 route and give us something different (with proper proportions and in similar style as original two)
I really liked the Predators in Predator 2, the differences in the shapes of the heads and the markings were enough to make each Hunter look different from the other but kept the basic idea with the proportions and appeal. That's... what I want kept in mind for whatever design we get. Predator 2 showed a lot of examples, which I think are great examples and ideas to use for inspiration or resource.
I'm not intending to start an argument... If anything I want this film to make me forget about PREDATORS and feel good about the franchise again. I want to keep on being a fan forever if I can help it. Like I said, this movie will make or break it for me.
I want to trust Shane in that he's knowing what to do since he's really holding the first film in reverence... Not so sure what his opinion about the afterward films are concerned. His statements seem to go back and forth.
Scar was an attempt at the original design?
Crucified, definitely for sure.. which... felt shoe-horned in for fan appeal.
[Cringes] Yeeeaah... I just... only want the armor updated. Not so much the original concept that Stan did..
I mean... as long as they don't deviate from the core concept.. fine.. kind of like how elements of the original Godzilla is seen in most incarnations afterwards, barring Zilla, then they can do that but I don't want something which is unrecognizable or exaggerated like the Super Predators. Again, I'm all for different markings, more pronounced ridges, and all that but... I don't want things taken TOO far.
Are you talking about as far as the bio-helmet is concerned or the actual face underneath the mask?
Totally, but I'll add that works both ways, the best srtory couldn't make up for a crappy design for the predator.
A good story being the hard part and making a decent look for the predator the easy part.
Ultimately it's not about design to me, it's about the story you want to tell. There are people who are always going to agonize over Iron Man, what color his suit is. Maybe this weapon does a new thing, but if the story is not good I don't give a sh*t what color the suit is.
Shane Black gets it. He's not going to make the mistake AvP-R made where they focused everything on the design and portrayal of the Predator and didn't give a shit about writing a compelling story or having good characters. If all you get right are the creatures then your movie sucks. I am seriously getting excited for this film.
This ^
Every pred face in predator and predator 2 was great and unique , everything since has been sub-par IMO.
Yes! I don't want to see another slight take on Classic. It's boring now. I'd like to see something new like that too.
What I, as a fan would want is definitely a traditional Predator but not necessarily a remake of the original creature, or the creature seen in Predator 2, but something... along the lines of what we saw in the Lost Clan in Predator 2. There were so many designs which were radically unique but not too deviating from the original, which is where I feel the Super Predators failed.
I wouldn't mind seeing a Predator with a different skin tone, or skin pattern. We've seen Predators with yellow and black skin patterns, we've seen them with pale skin but red and brown tones. In the case of the Lost clans, there were LOTS of skin pattern designs... I'm all for skin pattern designs.
What I DON'T want is another sub-species, like the Super Predators, or a Predator with more than four mandibles, or more than two arms or two legs. The Super Predators and that... four armed abomination from the sequel comics deviated too far from the original design, and were completely unnecessary.
This movie will make or break the franchise for me.
and everybody was ok with it because, offcourse this hunter will have an arsenal.
The question is how will you bring it to the big screen, having plasma cannisters with tracking/homing plasma bolts? NO!!
Shooting darts from his arm or helmet or kneecaps, yes! why? because its more hunter like and more challenging for a hunter.
Looking at the Predators movie, you see Tracker landing after the jump and you can see his helmet weighs a ton because of his head movement going all the way down, that looks so dumb.
Looking at Wolf from AVP:R, then yes he looks awesome, but his equipement like that power glove shit,NO!!!!
And Iron Man 3? that movie sucked.
So Mr.Black im having a doubt..............................dont f**k this up and dont let me hang you next to Mr. Anderson.
For updated Predator I`d like to see something like Borg Predator from P2. He had cool, more hi tech armor. Also some time ago while browsing through google I found this mask based on terminator:
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What I wouldn`t want to see is yet another variation on P1/2 mask.