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Alien: Paradise Lost Now Titled Alien: Covenant?

The AFI Film Festival took place on Thursday the 12th of November. Following the event I noticed a couple of Tweets on Twitter stating that Sir Ridley Scott had referred to Alien: Paradise Lost as Alien: Covenant. Following that, Indie Wire, who were in attendance have posted a report about the potential new title:

““I was going to be doing what will be called ‘Alien: Covenant,’ which starts shooting next February, and we were struggling then with the screenplay there and then there was a phone call, somebody saying, ‘Listen, we’ve got this thing which is completely written called ‘Martian,’ and I said, ‘Huh.’ And I sped read it in an hour and by mid-afternoon, I talked to Fox and said, ‘I need to talk to ‘Drew [Goddard]…’”

Ridley Scott on the set of Alien with H.R Giger in the Pilot's Chamber.  Alien: Paradise Lost Now Titled Alien: Covenant?

Ridley Scott on the set of Alien with H.R Giger in the Pilot’s Chamber.

There has been no official word regarding this. It may have simply been a slip-of-the-tongue or he may have accidently revealed the title for Neill Blomkamp’s “on hold” Alien sequel. This appears to be the first time he has referred to the Prometheus sequel as such.

The Indie Wire article also refers to the recently touted 30th May 2017 release date. Again, that is just coming from articles with no official word. Thanks to community member meshuggah for the Indie Wire link.



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  1. Perfect-Organism
    Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 18, 2015, 08:36:25 PM
    Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 18, 2015, 06:23:06 PM
    Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 18, 2015, 05:41:41 PM
    Quote from: CainsSon on Nov 18, 2015, 05:32:47 AM
    Maybe the COVENANT or at least the connection between this film and ALIEN, has something to do with why the Androids seem to be so fascinated by the xeno.

    The only trouble is the timeline.  There is 28 years between Prometheus and Alien.  That isn't a lot of time for David and the Covenant ship to get to the planet "on the far side of the galaxy", have nasty stuff go down, and news/info get back to Weylans-Yutani so they put Ash on the Nostromo to obtain a specimen.

    It's totally ok if you use PFM.

    Is that like Petyr Baelish's teleporter/rocket pack?

    PFM is "Pure f**king Magic".  I'm actually quoting Syd Mead here.  About a decade ago I was at a seminar of his in Detroit where he used that term over and over during his presentation.
  2. Mustangjeff
    Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 18, 2015, 06:23:06 PM
    Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 18, 2015, 05:41:41 PM
    Quote from: CainsSon on Nov 18, 2015, 05:32:47 AM
    Maybe the COVENANT or at least the connection between this film and ALIEN, has something to do with why the Androids seem to be so fascinated by the xeno.

    The only trouble is the timeline.  There is 28 years between Prometheus and Alien.  That isn't a lot of time for David and the Covenant ship to get to the planet "on the far side of the galaxy", have nasty stuff go down, and news/info get back to Weylans-Yutani so they put Ash on the Nostromo to obtain a specimen.

    It's totally ok if you use PFM.

    Is that like Petyr Baelish's teleporter/rocket pack?
  3. Perfect-Organism
    Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 18, 2015, 05:41:41 PM
    Quote from: CainsSon on Nov 18, 2015, 05:32:47 AM
    Maybe the COVENANT or at least the connection between this film and ALIEN, has something to do with why the Androids seem to be so fascinated by the xeno.

    The only trouble is the timeline.  There is 28 years between Prometheus and Alien.  That isn't a lot of time for David and the Covenant ship to get to the planet "on the far side of the galaxy", have nasty stuff go down, and news/info get back to Weylans-Yutani so they put Ash on the Nostromo to obtain a specimen.

    It's totally ok if you use PFM.
  4. Mustangjeff
    Quote from: CainsSon on Nov 18, 2015, 05:32:47 AM
    Maybe the COVENANT or at least the connection between this film and ALIEN, has something to do with why the Androids seem to be so fascinated by the xeno.

    The only trouble is the timeline.  There is 28 years between Prometheus and Alien.  That isn't a lot of time for David and the Covenant ship to get to the planet "on the far side of the galaxy", have nasty stuff go down, and news/info get back to Weylans-Yutani so they put Ash on the Nostromo to obtain a specimen.

  5. Whiskeybrewer
    Quote from: Randomizer on Nov 18, 2015, 05:23:51 PM
    Quote from: Randomizer on Nov 15, 2015, 06:10:41 PM
    Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Nov 15, 2015, 01:55:23 PM
    Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Nov 15, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
    In my mind, Alien: Paradise always conjures images of an alien reclining in a hammock under a palm tree and sipping a piña colada.  :D

    We need someone to draw that picture lol

    Spoiler

    My drawing is now irrelevant, damnit ! :P

    Although I love the direction they're going on with, I'll have a hard time getting used to the new name.



    It's not Halo, it's not Halo, it's not...... .

    You just need to have his feet up on the Ark of the Covenant now lol
  6. Randomizer
    Quote from: Randomizer on Nov 15, 2015, 06:10:41 PM
    Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Nov 15, 2015, 01:55:23 PM
    Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Nov 15, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
    In my mind, Alien: Paradise always conjures images of an alien reclining in a hammock under a palm tree and sipping a piña colada.  :D

    We need someone to draw that picture lol

    Spoiler

    My drawing is now irrelevant, damnit ! :P

    Although I love the direction they're going on with, I'll have a hard time getting used to the new name.



    It's not Halo, it's not Halo, it's not...... .
  7. whiterabbit
    Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 17, 2015, 01:27:40 AM
    Quote from: TheBATMAN on Nov 16, 2015, 08:06:04 PM
    I think the clue is the fact Covenant is a colony ship. I wonder if David somehow makes a deal with the Engineers to bring human hosts to paradise in order for them to realise a new biological weapon. Perhaps Shaw is the progenitor for these experiments?

    The possibilities are endless really...

    Why bother when they can just make more of us?
    Cause all of us put together isn't worth the sacrifice of another engineer. Yep that's the only way it works in engineer land. Anything else would be beneath them.

    Still if anyone remembers the space map thing from the engineer pilot chamber...what was that called again? Orrey or something. All the systems seemed to be self contained. Perhaps leaving that zone was to protect us form the horrors of space.
  8. Mustangjeff
    Quote from: Guan Thwei 1992 on Nov 17, 2015, 12:45:34 AM
    Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 17, 2015, 12:39:11 AM
    Is it possible that this prequel actually happens in the far off future (wouldn't that be a kick in the head)?

    I'm hoping the goon who wrote the synopsis was going for dramatic effect, but IMO this is cringe worthy

    "Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy"

    The Milky Way is about 120,000 LY in diameter.  The earth is about 75,000 LY from the far side of the galaxy.

    To contrast :  Zeta Reticuli is approximately 39 LY from earth, and it took The Prometheus 2 years to get there. 

    If you want to tell me that a Juggernaut can travel tens of thousands of light years in a short period of time, I will buy it.  But..  it would take the Prometheus 5000 years to travel that far.  I don't see a colony ship of the same era doing any better.  Keep in mind that there are only 28 years between the destruction off the Prometheus and the events in ALIEN.


    disclaimer : tongue in cheek :)

    A thought just occurred to me, what if "on the far side of the galaxy" they mean on our side? Seeing as Earth isn't exactly close to the centre of the Milky Way, they could be talking about the opposite end of the other side, on the far end of our end of the galaxy so to speak.

    Wouldn't that be, "Bound for a remote planet on the near side of the galaxy" ?

    It just doesn't have that dramatic flavor


    In all seriousness.  A very cool destination for paradise would be Tau Sagittarii.

    This was a nearest star to a signal that Seti picked up in 1977 known as the WOW! signal.  I think it was even used in some half-arsed Weylund industries website pre-movie puzzle games.

    Tau Sagittarii is 122 LY away, so about 4x further from earth than Zeta Reticuli.
  9. The Alien Predator
    Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 17, 2015, 12:39:11 AM
    Is it possible that this prequel actually happens in the far off future (wouldn't that be a kick in the head)?

    I'm hoping the goon who wrote the synopsis was going for dramatic effect, but IMO this is cringe worthy

    "Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy"

    The Milky Way is about 120,000 LY in diameter.  The earth is about 75,000 LY from the far side of the galaxy.

    To contrast :  Zeta Reticuli is approximately 39 LY from earth, and it took The Prometheus 2 years to get there. 

    If you want to tell me that a Juggernaut can travel tens of thousands of light years in a short period of time, I will buy it.  But..  it would take the Prometheus 5000 years to travel that far.  I don't see a colony ship of the same era doing any better.  Keep in mind that there are only 28 years between the destruction off the Prometheus and the events in ALIEN.


    disclaimer : tongue in cheek :)

    A thought just occurred to me, what if "on the far side of the galaxy" they mean on our side? Seeing as Earth isn't exactly close to the centre of the Milky Way, they could be talking about the opposite end of the other side, on the far end of our end of the galaxy so to speak.
  10. Mustangjeff
    Is it possible that this prequel actually happens in the far off future (wouldn't that be a kick in the head)?

    I'm hoping the goon who wrote the synopsis was going for dramatic effect, but IMO this is cringe worthy

    "Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy"

    The Milky Way is about 120,000 LY in diameter.  The earth is about 75,000 LY from the far side of the galaxy.

    To contrast :  Zeta Reticuli is approximately 39 LY from earth, and it took The Prometheus 2 years to get there. 

    If you want to tell me that a Juggernaut can travel tens of thousands of light years in a short period of time, I will buy it.  But..  it would take the Prometheus 5000 years to travel that far.  I don't see a colony ship of the same era doing any better.  Keep in mind that there are only 28 years between the destruction off the Prometheus and the events in ALIEN.


    disclaimer : tongue in cheek :)
  11. whiterabbit
    Oh crap I was wondering what you guys were all writing about... they finally made it official. This news has got me very excited. Love the title and the mystery of only finding David on the planet.
  12. T Dog
    I just want a good movie. If Shaw isn't in it, it won't bother me if the movie is good. I do think Noomi Rapace deserves better than what she got in Prometheus so here's hoping they wrote her a good part if she shows up.
  13. GQSioux
    Quote from: Gresh on Nov 16, 2015, 09:30:57 PM
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 09:22:20 PM
    Quote from: Gresh on Nov 16, 2015, 09:18:23 PM
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
    Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PMNew Synopsis

    Wait, so they're now dropping Rapace too?!

    If Noomi Rapace is getting Alien 3'd, then f**k this movie.

    I honestly expect her fate to be a plot point for the film.

    The fact that shes not mentioned at all in the official synopsis is just weird and worrying to me.  She was the main character in Prometheus.  If she is just a plot point in this, that would be incredibly dumb.

    Remember, cryo exists. If this does indeed take place years later, Shaw could be alive and well in one of the Engineer cryotubes for all we know.  If she's not part of the movie, there could also be flashbacks or some type of prologue to explains things, or like someone said earlier, she could be saved as a protagonist for the third movie.
  14. Gresh
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 09:22:20 PM
    Quote from: Gresh on Nov 16, 2015, 09:18:23 PM
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
    Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PMNew Synopsis

    Wait, so they're now dropping Rapace too?!

    If Noomi Rapace is getting Alien 3'd, then f**k this movie.

    I honestly expect her fate to be a plot point for the film.

    The fact that shes not mentioned at all in the official synopsis is just weird and worrying to me.  She was the main character in Prometheus.  If she is just a plot point in this, that would be incredibly dumb.
  15. Corporal Hicks
    Quote from: Gresh on Nov 16, 2015, 09:18:23 PM
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
    Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PMNew Synopsis

    Wait, so they're now dropping Rapace too?!

    If Noomi Rapace is getting Alien 3'd, then f**k this movie.

    I honestly expect her fate to be a plot point for the film.

    Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 16, 2015, 09:21:28 PM
    The idea of a colony ship is interesting to me! What does that mean? A bunch of people that live on a ship together or what?

    In most sci-fi it's a ship sent off into space to find a planet and build a life there with the contents of the ship, usually using the ship itself to construct the buildings and etc.
  16. Corporal Hicks
    Quote from: sugarhigh on Nov 16, 2015, 09:06:48 PM
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 06:14:50 PM
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
    Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PMNew Synopsis

    Wait, so they're now dropping Rapace too?!

    I suspect it's going to be a plot point.

    My bet is that Rapace ends up being the dead engineer in the derelict. David convinces her to attach his head to his body, overpowers her, experiments on her once they get to the engineers home planet.

    I really don't want that to be the case.
  17. sugarhigh
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 06:14:50 PM
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
    Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PMNew Synopsis

    Wait, so they're now dropping Rapace too?!

    I suspect it's going to be a plot point.

    My bet is that Rapace ends up being the dead engineer in the derelict. David convinces her to attach his head to his body, overpowers her, experiments on her once they get to the engineers home planet.
  18. TheBATMAN
    I think the clue is the fact Covenant is a colony ship. I wonder if David somehow makes a deal with the Engineers to bring human hosts to paradise in order for them to realise a new biological weapon. Perhaps Shaw is the progenitor for these experiments?

    The possibilities are endless really...
  19. CainsSon
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2015, 06:14:50 PM
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 16, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
    Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Nov 16, 2015, 06:02:57 PMNew Synopsis

    Wait, so they're now dropping Rapace too?!

    I suspect it's going to be a plot point.

    I think so too. There will likely be some sort of reveal. It would be great if the movie opens with Rapace calling the human race to see this place or maybe David is experimenting on her and that will be the reveal. Or maybe he murders her,.. Lots of possibilities.
  20. The First Child
    Once again. I feel that If Ridley's team choose something like Covenant or Paradise it would be better. However they may be planning to use "Paradise" or Paradise Lost" as the title of the third film.
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