Ridley Scott and news about Alien: Paradise Lost is certainly stealing the spotlight at the minute! However, whilst talking to The Daily Beast, promoting his recently released science-fiction film The Martian (which you should go see!) and upcoming Prometheus sequel, Ridley snuck in a little about the Neill Blomkamp Alien sequel that Scott is also producing:
“We have Neill Blomkamp’s Alien, which will be out in 2017. We just have the first [screenplay] draft in so far but it looks pretty good.”
This is the first we’ve heard that a complete draft has been done for Alien 5. Surprisingly, Ridley Scott also says that Alien 5 will be released in 2017 which is also the same year that Alien: Paradise Lost is currently due for release.
Thanks to Daz85 for the news.
Then again, she did kind of refuse to help the other marines who were being cocooned...
I can't agree with this. For me the best performances in order were:
Aliens
Alien
Alien 3
Alien: Resurrection
James Cameron brought out the best in Sigourney Weaver. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for Avatar. I am not a fan of that performance.
I agree. Strong performances in all of the Alien films. I hope that if they do retcon those films that they are incorporated into the new continuity in some form.
I can't say I agree with you on this, while she did a great job in Alien 3, she, along with everything else in Resurrection, sucked. While she isn't as bad as the rest of the film per say, all her one liners and corny scenes were just awful, in my opinion. She almost won an Academy Award and a Golden Globe for her acting in part 2, and for a reason, she was spot on perfect in that film. And while she was nominated for best actress in all her alien roles via "Academy of Science Fiction", she only ever won for her part in Aliens.
I've always thought it ironic that the two weaker films contain by far the best performances from Weaver. She's superb in 3 and Resurrection.
Ah great never mind all I wanted to say is NEVER SURRENDER TO THE FAN BOYS
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Alien Resurrection, on the other hand, can take a flying f--- at a rolling donut.
They feel like a kid's fan-fic to me, with the exception of a couple of minor mature points, which in turn feel like they were thrown in in some kind of attempt to stop it being kids' fan fiction, and as a result they're pretty much dropped straight away.
^^This. I would comment further on why, but im shattered lol. Will add when possible lol
Whether you feel that other stories or comics from the EU are infinitely more engaging is up to you. That goes without saying because it is an opinion-based statement. It just makes no sense to say that this is a "fact". There are many valid reasons why fans still love the original Aliens comics series. I will revisit that thread where we discussed this some day and I will go through the series to delve deeper into that, but essentially the series covers a large swath of monumental events (infestation of earth, visiting the homeworld) while managing to keep the story very human and on a personal level. It was a monumental comics series in its day.
Maybe they would, but as I've said before I just can't understand all the love for the early comics. They may have been ground-breaking in their day, but now they just come across as tired, uninspired and kinda immature. There are other stories from the EU that I find infinitely more engaging.
I think what you meant to say is that in your personal opinion, the continuation story from the comics is pretty lame. I think many if not most fans would disagree.
That's a hell of an assumption given the quality of most of the movies since.
There's also the fact the continuation story from the comics is pretty lame.
Her only concern since she was on board the Nostromo, was to get rid of/forget the Alien at any cost (blowing up the ship, refusing to go back to LV-426, commiting suicide...) She joined the marines in Aliens only because she couldn't cope with her nightmares.
Now, unless I'm mistaken, she's back, as well as Hicks. This choice is a huge gamble. Better make Alien 5 a masterpiece if it ought to be in line with Alien and Aliens...
At least I wish they are done with the Derelict and find a new way to get people (or other lifeforms) infected.
I must admit I really did want that Giger world sequel where Rip and co. kick some major ass somewhere far off on another planet and the reason the derelict crashed on lv 426 is finally answered but unfortunately we got Alien³ instead. Which wasn't that bad. However I do not want an Aliens sequel that is a retread of Aliens.
It is a fact that the story arcs of Hicks and Newt were abruptly and gracelessly ended, and Ripley's character while she met an appropriate end, she ended up coming back in Resurrection just to negate her sacrifice in Alien 3. Continuing the story from where Resurrection left off with Lazarus Ripley in tow is just silly. Nobody cares (most people don't anyway).
If we assume that the story of Aliens could have been continued in a better direction, then it completely makes sense that this would include Ripley and Hicks and Newt. They could be effectively on the run from the colonial marines and WY. There are so many different ways to take that story without even remotely forcing it.
Using the Alien creature is very different from recycling characters.
Yes, reusing characters lends continuation to their story arcs much in the same way as any human story. It is something we can relate to. Reusing the Alien creature is like making separate films about alligators. Yes they're awesome, but there is no human emotional connection there.
I understand the fears of using Ripley again. Things can easily get cheesy. There has to be a right balance struck. But while Alien 3 is great, surely an even better story could have been told.
But if we maintain the continuity of Alien 3 and Resurrection, then the main character is "still alive". But in the most stupid way. Cloning with full memories intact? Really?
Using the Alien creature is very different from recycling characters.
I'm not disparaging any fans. I think it's just incredibly sad that the people in charge can't cut the umbilical and try something new. Blomkamp's apparently pressing the reset button, Ridley seems to have totally reneged on his pledge that the Prometheus sequels would move away from Alien and be original... And don't even get me started on the "Ripley being mentioned" thing.
Except Ridley is apparently also pandering to the living-in-the-past crowd with this alleged "connection to Ripley" bollocks.
So actually, only Black is doing something that isn't shackled to things that happened thirty years ago. And that film's probably years away.
Oh come on! You're getting 3 new Alien films with new characters from Ridley. Some of us also want our Ripley, Hicks, and Newt's tale. That's more than fair. And, you still get to keep your old Alien 3 and Resurrection copies. If the new Blomkamp film turns out good, it really won't be so bad will it?
Exactly. New story, new characters.
The hardest thing to accept is the premise, which is stupid as hell, and the fact that it's going to retcon/split the fan Base. The casual audience won't mind and that's why it's getting made, not because Blomkamp has any respect for the series.
Spoiler
I'm prepared.
Now preparing for the storm thats brewing in some of these threads.
No it wouldn't. Because cloning them all makes no sense. Why would they do it? What do they have to gain? Why invest so much time and effort? There's literally no logical reason.
Not to mention, how would they have a clone of Newt when they don't even know that she's survived events until they blast off? I presume growing a clone takes some time. It at least needs to mature. So do they just have clones of the entire colony populace waiting on ice so they can pick out the ones they need?
This is what worries me more than anything. Coming off the back of District 9 I'd be far more thrilled that Neill's in charge, but his subsequent films have been decidedly uneven.
Why would they have them cloned? Doesn't make much sense.
Neill should talk to Cameron and I am sure Cameron would say to do a retcon. Alien 3 was a slap in his face..
I like that idea, I was sorta thinking a similar thing of them cloning Ripley as I liked Alien 3 and Resurrection.
Plus, your explanation saves a lot of headaches about "how did the egg get on the Sulaco?" Weyland-Yutani just put it there in the name of science.
Here it is: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=52496.msg2048262#msg2048262
However it is possible that Neill's movie could be awful, possibly even more damaging than Alien 3. Much like with Superman Returns it was meant to following Superman 1 & 2 while ignoring 3 & 4, though it promised to be a comeback that movie wasn't all that better. The same goes for Halloween H20 retconing Halloween 4,5,6. And Highlander 3 retconing Highlander 2. Despite how they may be preferred they don't necessarily serve much purpose outside of trying repair irrevocable damage to the franchises reputation.
Neill's off to a great star with District 9, Elysium and Chappie were less than well regarded. Like M. Night Shyamalan he seamed to be on going down hill. Will Alien be Neill's equivalent of M. Night's Last Airbender? I hope to be proven wrong.
That's the spirit. You can enjoy to alternate timelines. Heck maybe the separate timelines can be picked up as separate threads in various EU materials and products. How awesome is that?
Well that's really sad, but if it's any comfort, after you're gone, your Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection Blu-Rays will remain on your shelf. Nobody is coming to take them.
I would say that all signs point to likely, but there is always that slim margin.
When that does happen, and chances are it possibly might... we'll see how it goes. I would prefer if he just didn't acknowledge the latter two films, rather than write them off either as dreams or false memory implants.
Don't get me wrong, I love Alien 3... and kind of can deal with Resurrection but I don't think he should touch them, hence given his statements, he's probably going to be ignoring them. But in the end.. does it even really matter? To me, it just means we can really pick and choose and shouldn't be a slave to what's deemed as canon. More camps for fans to be a part of.
I will be gutted if that actually happens.
Yeah, I don't believe that for one second either.
On topic, interesting to hear these will both be out in the same year.