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  1. RagingDragon
    Man :-\ here goes another $60 for a game that should've been way, waaaaay better. I'm really getting tired of buying mediocre products.

    And again, careful word choice would've mitigated a lot of the justified rage, I think. If GBX had someone saying the right things and doing damage control, things such as "the single-player campaign is going to be an authentic sequel to Aliens, but the multi-player will introduce some new concepts and gameplay elements for the sake of playability," or something like that.

    I'm afraid, though, that they aren't saying that because all of these Kenner aliens are not only in the single-player, but may play a major role in the story.

    Spoiler
  2. Bio Mech Hunter
    Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 04, 2013, 11:12:59 PM
    Quote from: HybridNewborn on Jan 30, 2013, 07:27:16 PM
    Boiler = Boomer
    Spitter = Spitter
    Crusher = Tank
    Soldier = Hunter
    Alien Swarm = Zombie Horde

    We just need a dedicated Smoker (for the tongue, not the smoke cloud), a charger, a jockey, and a witch.

    They could use the Runner as the Jockey infected, a "Lasher" frog-tongue alien for the Smoker  :P, a Praetorian/Royal Guard for the Charger, and a crazed about to be chest-bursted person for the Witch, ala Alien Resurrection! :laugh:
    STOP! GBX might be reading this forum! :o


    :laugh:
  3. HybridNewborn
    Quote from: HybridNewborn on Jan 30, 2013, 07:27:16 PM
    Boiler = Boomer
    Spitter = Spitter
    Crusher = Tank
    Soldier = Hunter
    Alien Swarm = Zombie Horde

    We just need a dedicated Smoker (for the tongue, not the smoke cloud), a charger, a jockey, and a witch.

    They could use the Runner as the Jockey infected, a "Lasher" frog-tongue alien for the Smoker  :P, a Praetorian/Royal Guard for the Charger, and a crazed about to be chest-bursted person for the Witch, ala Alien Resurrection! :laugh:
  4. Nightlord
    You guys playing on Pc or Consoles?

    In my experience, playing on Xbox has been alot like what ye are describing, while on pc for the most part people are fairly mature except for the odd griefer.
  5. Xenomorphine
    Quote from: Crazy Rich on Feb 02, 2013, 06:51:48 AM
    That was awesome.

    Glad I could provide. :)

    Quote from: [T)A]DarkDragon on Feb 02, 2013, 09:43:03 AM
    left 4 dead is a good example since aliens co is some what of a clone.  when your on a team with four infected that use strategies, you are much more effective than four infected just charging in hoping to do damage.
    smoke/death charges are a perfect example of tactics, and i can see aliens co marines really require some tactical hits.

    when your just playing a public game, yeah your mostly not going to find tactical game play. l4d2 is an exception because the game is 4v4, kind of forcing your team to work together.

    Your experience clearly differs to my own. :) In both of the 'Left 4 Dead' games, I actually found they were the worst offenders, for some strange reason. Even co-operative modes generally had all and sundry acting without a thought to self-preservation, much less working together.

    If your experience has been more positive, I'm glad for you, but it's very rare I've ever found anyone wanting to work as a team; whether on public servers or just private games. There's just something very weird about activating multiplayer, which seems to cause otherwise intelligent people to turn into Leeroy Jenkins clones, in my experience. Everyone just runs around and burst into laughter when they can create the most confusing mess of things. If that makes them happy, good for them! But it's honestly not something I find the least bit entertaining, much less fun.
  6. Kalawaki
    Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 02, 2013, 02:12:34 PM
    Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 01, 2013, 08:58:07 PM
    Thank you for agreeing that judgement is best reserved until after you actually know what you're talking about.  ♥

    No, just no.
    I try to count on a hand how much time concerning something related to Alien/Predator/AVP I've been wrong before it was released and this is as close as possible to 0.
    I wish A:CM could have been the exception but the more they show us, the more I dislike.

    Your argument is anyway invalid since some people are doing the opposite.
    Kinda proves that it is possible to judge before a release.
    Now that you agree or disagree with this people is totally subjective and isn't a truth.
    You are judging something when you literally have no idea what you are talking about. If anyones argument is invalid, it is yours.

    You're nearly as bad as that one person that tried to argue with me about the movie Prometheus when he hadn't even seen it yet and had done literally no research on the film prior to it.
  7. Le Celticant
    Quote from: Predaker on Feb 02, 2013, 02:59:32 PM
    Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 02, 2013, 02:53:40 PM
    Quote from: Predaker on Feb 02, 2013, 02:49:55 PM
    Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 02, 2013, 04:45:22 AM
    Gearbox wants to say "we're giving you the authentic experience" and then they toss in a bunch of crap. Those two things are not compatible concepts.

    Well that's your opinion and I respectfully disagree.

    What is then the authentic experience?
    Please tell me, I want to know it sooooo much  :P

    Don't ask me, ask yourself. :)

    The obvious pointed me to ask the question since I already asked it to myself.

    Spoiler
    A bit of logic never hurts ya know.  :P
    [close]
  8. OpenMaw
    Quote from: Predaker on Feb 02, 2013, 02:49:55 PM
    Well that's your opinion and I respectfully disagree.

    It's a fact that Gearbox has stated they're trying to give the audience an authentic experience.


    Authentic does not include changes to design and sound, including extreme alien variants, and fiddling with the timeline of events as they occured in the original trilogy.

    I could give a shit about "canon." The world authentic as Gearbox has been using it, refers to the replication of the atmosphere, design, and nature of the movie Aliens. When you change the formula in the extreme, you dissolve the authenticity. That is a fact of art and design, not an opinion.

    Also, if you're going to say "you're wrong" it's generally best course to explain why. Especially when someone brings up a legitimate point and you basically ignore them.
  9. WinterActual
    Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 02, 2013, 03:48:15 PM
    Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 02, 2013, 03:38:35 PM
    Quote from: Predaker on Feb 02, 2013, 02:49:55 PM
    Well that's your opinion and I respectfully disagree.
    Its not his opinion its a fact that GBX are far away from what canon means.

    Technically they are close to canon since it's been greenlite as canon by FOX itself.


    http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/1/1/8/7/6/5/3/oh-you-93067263235.jpeg

    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZmqrZ.jpg&hash=8986aa25e760148d6beae70325a2303392cfba84
  10. ScardyFox
    Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 02, 2013, 03:38:35 PM
    Quote from: Predaker on Feb 02, 2013, 02:49:55 PM
    Well that's your opinion and I respectfully disagree.
    Its not his opinion its a fact that GBX are far away from what canon means.

    Technically they are close to canon since it's been greenlite as canon by FOX itself.


    https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.sodahead.com%2Fprofiles%2F0%2F0%2F1%2F1%2F8%2F7%2F6%2F5%2F3%2Foh-you-93067263235.jpeg&hash=84d731186768abd9fb54e242ecaa4113574a20cc
  11. Predaker
    Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 02, 2013, 02:53:40 PM
    Quote from: Predaker on Feb 02, 2013, 02:49:55 PM
    Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 02, 2013, 04:45:22 AM
    Gearbox wants to say "we're giving you the authentic experience" and then they toss in a bunch of crap. Those two things are not compatible concepts.

    Well that's your opinion and I respectfully disagree.

    What is then the authentic experience?
    Please tell me, I want to know it sooooo much  :P

    Don't ask me, ask yourself. :)
  12. Le Celticant
    Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 01, 2013, 08:58:07 PM
    Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 01, 2013, 08:20:07 PM
    Quote from: Dovahkiin on Feb 01, 2013, 04:19:29 PM
    Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 01, 2013, 03:57:56 PM
    You know, I tend to find that games without the maximum HIGH-DEF graphics tend to be ones that have better gameplay.

    Why?

    Because those HD graphics that everyone bitches and moans about have a nasty tendency to take up roughly 60-65% of the game disc's precious space. You can only have so much memory on one disc. That's why larger, more lengthly games tend to have two disc's. But the additional disc means more expense in producing the product, so few companies ever try to make two and struggle to balance gameplay into one disc's memory.

    Tl;Dr? The less the graphics, the better the gameplay will likely be. Quit bitching until you play it.

    I do agree that people shouldn't go too crazy until they play the game.

    I do agree that 7 billions people should have watch avp-requiem to say it sucks.
    That way, we would have get an even worse sequel with giant dinosaurs aliens but we would all be happy because we could all judge that this movie sucks because we all saw it.

    ::)
    Thank you for agreeing that judgement is best reserved until after you actually know what you're talking about.  ♥

    No, just no.
    I try to count on a hand how much time concerning something related to Alien/Predator/AVP I've been wrong before it was released and this is as close as possible to 0.
    I wish A:CM could have been the exception but the more they show us, the more I dislike.

    Your argument is anyway invalid since some people are doing the opposite.
    Kinda proves that it is possible to judge before a release.
    Now that you agree or disagree with this people is totally subjective and isn't a truth.
  13. [T)A]DarkDragon
    Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 02, 2013, 01:41:01 AM
    There are no multiplayer tactics in this game, like there are none for other games. Nobody ever bothers to do even the simplest things, like group up together and give over-arcing fields of fire... Sadly.

    might want to rethink that.

    left 4 dead, counter strike, planet side 2 just the first to pop in my head. i rarely play these games without a team that communicates.

    left 4 dead is a good example since aliens co is some what of a clone.  when your on a team with four infected that use strategies, you are much more effective than four infected just charging in hoping to do damage.
    smoke/death charges are a perfect example of tactics, and i can see aliens co marines really require some tactical hits.

    when your just playing a public game, yeah your mostly not going to find tactical game play. l4d2 is an exception because the game is 4v4, kind of forcing your team to work together.
    their are plenty of competitive communities for many games.

    the trailer was alright.
    the smog effect would be alright, if only one class could use it. say only the lurker was able to use smog.
    and this has to be console gameplay, the multiplayer demos looked much better graphically.

    did anyone else notice the spit effect at 1:19? the spit is coming from the aliens chest and goes through its mouth.

    the lack of animation in the marines is better disappointing.

    still have high hopes for this game, but im predicting it wont entertain me for very long. luckily crysis 3 comes out a week later.
  14. OpenMaw
    Quote from: Predaker on Feb 02, 2013, 02:21:17 AM
    No emphasis on tactical squad teamwork in multiplayer? Hello, red dots...

    That doesn't really promote team work. If anything not having that exact information would help push marine players closer together to avoid picking up rogue blips.

    You want to make the marine team work closer together, and also avoid retarded alien bullsh*t? Simple. Very simple. Adopt the strategy of game mods like Front Line Force. Being close to your team mates grants you certain percs. (Better weapon accuracy, better movement speed.)

    Quote from: Predaker on Feb 02, 2013, 03:21:23 AM
    "But iz not Canonz lulz"

    Keep it up. It's really clever, and not at all what most people are complaining about. Gearbox wants to say "we're giving you the authentic experience" and then they toss in a bunch of crap. Those two things are not compatible concepts. 
  15. Predaker
    Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 02, 2013, 03:05:41 AM
    According to my friend who played the game at Eurogamer, after wandering off and getting killed horribly a few times the marine players seemed to just naturally bunch together and work like a big unit instead of a bunch of lone wolves.

    Same with the alien team. Gameplay that was designed to build tension and fear while naturally promoting teamwork.

    "But iz not Canonz lulz"
  16. Kalawaki
    According to my friend who played the game at Eurogamer, after wandering off and getting killed horribly a few times the marine players seemed to just naturally bunch together and work like a big unit instead of a bunch of lone wolves.
  17. Xenomorphine
    There are no multiplayer tactics in this game, like there are none for other games. Nobody ever bothers to do even the simplest things, like group up together and give over-arcing fields of fire... Sadly.
  18. Cal427eb
    Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 02, 2013, 01:09:13 AM
    Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 01, 2013, 10:19:56 PM
    Where were the tactics in the trailer?


    The Xenos were the focus since they were the ones who showed any sort of tactical strategies. Case in point...the smog, and also rampaging Crusher as the tank, keeping the xenos behind it safe and sound until they are ready to f**k shit up. Spitters on the high ground attacking the marines...
    Yeah but I want I went in expecting something for the marines. I wish they had kept the squad features in the game though.  :-\
  19. Kalawaki
    Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 01, 2013, 08:20:07 PM
    Quote from: Dovahkiin on Feb 01, 2013, 04:19:29 PM
    Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 01, 2013, 03:57:56 PM
    You know, I tend to find that games without the maximum HIGH-DEF graphics tend to be ones that have better gameplay.

    Why?

    Because those HD graphics that everyone bitches and moans about have a nasty tendency to take up roughly 60-65% of the game disc's precious space. You can only have so much memory on one disc. That's why larger, more lengthly games tend to have two disc's. But the additional disc means more expense in producing the product, so few companies ever try to make two and struggle to balance gameplay into one disc's memory.

    Tl;Dr? The less the graphics, the better the gameplay will likely be. Quit bitching until you play it.

    I do agree that people shouldn't go too crazy until they play the game.

    I do agree that 7 billions people should have watch avp-requiem to say it sucks.
    That way, we would have get an even worse sequel with giant dinosaurs aliens but we would all be happy because we could all judge that this movie sucks because we all saw it.

    ::)
    Thank you for agreeing that judgement is best reserved until after you actually know what you're talking about.  ♥
  20. ScardyFox
    Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 01, 2013, 08:20:07 PM
    Quote from: Dovahkiin on Feb 01, 2013, 04:19:29 PM
    Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 01, 2013, 03:57:56 PM
    You know, I tend to find that games without the maximum HIGH-DEF graphics tend to be ones that have better gameplay.

    Why?

    Because those HD graphics that everyone bitches and moans about have a nasty tendency to take up roughly 60-65% of the game disc's precious space. You can only have so much memory on one disc. That's why larger, more lengthly games tend to have two disc's. But the additional disc means more expense in producing the product, so few companies ever try to make two and struggle to balance gameplay into one disc's memory.

    Tl;Dr? The less the graphics, the better the gameplay will likely be. Quit bitching until you play it.

    I do agree that people shouldn't go too crazy until they play the game.

    I do agree that 7 billions people should have watch avp-requiem to say it sucks.
    That way, we would have get an even worse sequel with giant dinosaurs aliens but we would all be happy because we could all judge that this movie sucks because we all saw it.

    ::)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfAm38GPsGw#
  21. Le Celticant
    Quote from: Dovahkiin on Feb 01, 2013, 04:19:29 PM
    Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 01, 2013, 03:57:56 PM
    You know, I tend to find that games without the maximum HIGH-DEF graphics tend to be ones that have better gameplay.

    Why?

    Because those HD graphics that everyone bitches and moans about have a nasty tendency to take up roughly 60-65% of the game disc's precious space. You can only have so much memory on one disc. That's why larger, more lengthly games tend to have two disc's. But the additional disc means more expense in producing the product, so few companies ever try to make two and struggle to balance gameplay into one disc's memory.

    Tl;Dr? The less the graphics, the better the gameplay will likely be. Quit bitching until you play it.

    I do agree that people shouldn't go too crazy until they play the game.

    I do agree that 7 billions people should have watch avp-requiem to say it sucks.
    That way, we would have get an even worse sequel with giant dinosaurs aliens but we would all be happy because we could all judge that this movie sucks because we all saw it.

    ::)
  22. Bio Mech Hunter
    Quote from: The Runner on Feb 01, 2013, 11:39:44 AM
    Quote from: reecebomb on Feb 01, 2013, 09:52:02 AM
    Quote from: The Runner on Feb 01, 2013, 04:02:37 AM
    http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag104/joshm96/Fail_zps11126780.jpg


    FAIL!

    Awwwww :-*

    I despised the melee in AVP 2010, gearbox made it even worse.
    According to this game, a chimpanzee would have no problems ripping an alien a new one. Deadliest species my ass, not to mention the perfect organism. Yay a glowing sniper, nailed the perfection, genius!
    I wouldn't have a problem with melee if it would always end gruesomely for the marine. Also notice how miniscule the groped alien head is.
    They obviously didnt remember what Parker tried to do, and look what happened to him.

    Pred fanboys are probably going to eat this all up....
    Yeah, no kidding. This is ridiculously STUPID. >:(

    ...and do we honestly need any more proof the Aliens are too f***ing small in A:CM. I mean COME ON. For f***'s sake, GBX... shame on you.

    The Alien smoke screen skill is just plain dumb. From a gameplay stand point, I guess it kinda makes sense, but we're talking about Aliens here. It's absurd. There are better ways to do this without compromising the Alien mythos.

    Now, ACID SPIT should've been a skill. Not some new glow-in-the-dark, "Hey! I'm over here! Shoot me!" Alien class. *face palm*
  23. Dovahkiin
    Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 01, 2013, 03:57:56 PM
    You know, I tend to find that games without the maximum HIGH-DEF graphics tend to be ones that have better gameplay.

    Why?

    Because those HD graphics that everyone bitches and moans about have a nasty tendency to take up roughly 60-65% of the game disc's precious space. You can only have so much memory on one disc. That's why larger, more lengthly games tend to have two disc's. But the additional disc means more expense in producing the product, so few companies ever try to make two and struggle to balance gameplay into one disc's memory.

    Tl;Dr? The less the graphics, the better the gameplay will likely be. Quit bitching until you play it.

    I do agree that people shouldn't go too crazy until they play the game.
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