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Fox Talks Prometheus Sequel

Speaking to The Hollywood Reporter, Fox president of production Emma Watts has confirmed that a sequel to Prometheus will be arriving in 2014 or 2015. The studio is actively pushing ahead with a follow-up starring Michael Fassbender and Noomi Rapace and are talking to new writers because Damon Lindelof might not be available.

Ridley is incred- ibly excited about the movie, but we have to get it right. We can’t rush it” Fox said.

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  1. acrediblesource
    Your very last comment is a great one. I for one hope that this mentality is correct, considering the amount of flack Alien flicks get all the time since fanboys (not Film lovers) get carried away on spats between fanboys.
    A formula like this will help push Prometheus into new territory rather than lump the Alien franchise as just another monster movie like Dracula or the Wolfman to be forgotten in another bargain bin product.

    I am a film lover first and formost. But I respect the Alien franchise. I hope that Art can dictate where the story goes rather money.

    AND BY ART I MEAN f**kING STORY TELLING. A RIPPING f**kING GOOD YARN!!!!!


    Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 26, 2012, 05:49:22 PM
    Most Alien fans outside the internet probably don't. They just see an alien planet, a similar ship, and the Alien, and that's more than enough for them.

    Same principle applies over us picking apart every Alien design and comparing it to Giger's original. Most people don't care at all. All they have to do is see the Alien and they're happy, makes no difference if its the Alien design or the AVPR one.
  2. Nightmare Asylum
    Most Alien fans outside the internet probably don't. They just see an alien planet, a similar ship, and the Alien, and that's more than enough for them.

    Same principle applies over us picking apart every Alien design and comparing it to Giger's original. Most people don't care at all. All they have to do is see the Alien and they're happy, makes no difference if its the Alien design or the AVPR one.
  3. Zenzucht
    Concerning of the bridge to the Alien.. Buddy of mine thought the crashed Juggernaut was THE Derelict.. So I explained to him that Prometheus took place on the LV-223, not the LV-426 (which was the other planet in the shots in space).. Anyway, he did not give a s**t..
  4. Mr. Clemens
    Quote from: JKS1 on Aug 23, 2012, 01:28:13 PMHaha ..yeah...'Promethean Fundamentalists'...cant see past their own noses, all swivel eyed reaction, and simply unable to hear genuine and valid criticism of the film's many, glaring flaws ....'if youre not with us youre against us !!"

    Just don't lump us all in with that generalization. I like the film because it's fun to watch. Sure, it has flaws. So does Alien3 - and I like that one, too.  :)
  5. JKS1
    Quote from: OpenMaw on Aug 23, 2012, 11:20:47 AM
    Quote from: SiL on Aug 07, 2012, 12:10:02 PM
    Quote from: episodenone on Aug 06, 2012, 03:18:48 AM
    Wait a sec... you're saying the the question of where the Human Race and everything else on the planet Earth if not the entire galaxy / universe is not a profound question?   ???

    Surely you jest.  Because I'd dare say that most astrophysicists and religious zealots would argu it is THE most profound question in Human History.
    Problem is, it isn't asking a question about the origin of life.

    It's asking about the origin of terrestrial life.

    And then saying "Aliens did it".

    This is not profound. This is not intellectually deep, nor is it difficult to fathom. It's every bit the cheap, lazy answer of "God did it". Something did it, something made it; we think this because this is how things work on the human scale. The existence of a watch implies a watchmaker, ergo we conclude that the existence of Man implies some Creator. Prometheus, being sci-fi, proposes its Engineers, and so thinks it's made some grand statement.

    It hasn't.

    Not only that, passing off the origin of life here to something over there doesn't actually answer the question of how life started, it just passes it off to something else. As Holloway himself asks, "Who made them?". If the answer is "Engineer Engineers", it's bullshit. If the answer is "Presumably the same way life in reality started -- no f**kin' clue", then what was the point in the Engineers in the first place?

    But I admit I have missed what Prometheus clearly considers its biggest question -- not who, but why. Why make us?

    Except the film never answers this. Nor does it give the audience the tools it needs to answer this. It doesn't even give the audience enough to begin justifying their own beliefs. All they can do is form an opinion and scrounge the film for scraps of information to tentatively support what amounts to musing. It throws the question out, dangling it in front of the audience, looking so God-damned pleased with itself because of it, and then tears it away and says "Nope, horror movie ending now, see you for part 2 when we get around to answering what is, ostensibly, the question that justifies this film's existence in the first place."

    There's nothing smart or clever or deep or intellectual about posing a question in a vacuum. The film hardly seems bothered to make us interested in the question anyway. It's dropped in a handful of dialogue, but every time something comes up the movie throws another tentacle monster at us.

    tl;dr "Did aliens do it?" is a boring horseshit non-answer to a legitimately intellectually stimulating question and saying "Why did aliens do it?" isn't actually profound or meaningful unless you actually give the audience something to mull on.

    You know it saddens me that such a well reasoned, intelligent, post 'can be' essentially played down with responses like "Well, I liked it" or "Stop with the hate."

    It's damn near theological or religious in the natures of some peoples defenses around here when it comes to this movie.

    I guess we'll just have to see, but I think the next film needs to one better than Prometheus. Not squander it's potential. Be more than the sum of it's parts. Not play intelligence frisbee by passing the scenes off early to monster scares.

    Haha ..yeah...'Promethean Fundamentalists'...cant see past their own noses, all swivel eyed reaction, and simply unable to hear genuine and valid criticism of the film's many, glaring flaws ....'if youre not with us youre against us !!"
  6. OpenMaw
    Quote from: SiL on Aug 07, 2012, 12:10:02 PM
    Quote from: episodenone on Aug 06, 2012, 03:18:48 AM
    Wait a sec... you're saying the the question of where the Human Race and everything else on the planet Earth if not the entire galaxy / universe is not a profound question?   ???

    Surely you jest.  Because I'd dare say that most astrophysicists and religious zealots would argu it is THE most profound question in Human History.
    Problem is, it isn't asking a question about the origin of life.

    It's asking about the origin of terrestrial life.

    And then saying "Aliens did it".

    This is not profound. This is not intellectually deep, nor is it difficult to fathom. It's every bit the cheap, lazy answer of "God did it". Something did it, something made it; we think this because this is how things work on the human scale. The existence of a watch implies a watchmaker, ergo we conclude that the existence of Man implies some Creator. Prometheus, being sci-fi, proposes its Engineers, and so thinks it's made some grand statement.

    It hasn't.

    Not only that, passing off the origin of life here to something over there doesn't actually answer the question of how life started, it just passes it off to something else. As Holloway himself asks, "Who made them?". If the answer is "Engineer Engineers", it's bullshit. If the answer is "Presumably the same way life in reality started -- no f**kin' clue", then what was the point in the Engineers in the first place?

    But I admit I have missed what Prometheus clearly considers its biggest question -- not who, but why. Why make us?

    Except the film never answers this. Nor does it give the audience the tools it needs to answer this. It doesn't even give the audience enough to begin justifying their own beliefs. All they can do is form an opinion and scrounge the film for scraps of information to tentatively support what amounts to musing. It throws the question out, dangling it in front of the audience, looking so God-damned pleased with itself because of it, and then tears it away and says "Nope, horror movie ending now, see you for part 2 when we get around to answering what is, ostensibly, the question that justifies this film's existence in the first place."

    There's nothing smart or clever or deep or intellectual about posing a question in a vacuum. The film hardly seems bothered to make us interested in the question anyway. It's dropped in a handful of dialogue, but every time something comes up the movie throws another tentacle monster at us.

    tl;dr "Did aliens do it?" is a boring horseshit non-answer to a legitimately intellectually stimulating question and saying "Why did aliens do it?" isn't actually profound or meaningful unless you actually give the audience something to mull on.

    You know it saddens me that such a well reasoned, intelligent, post 'can be' essentially played down with responses like "Well, I liked it" or "Stop with the hate."

    It's damn near theological or religious in the natures of some peoples defenses around here when it comes to this movie.

    I guess we'll just have to see, but I think the next film needs to one better than Prometheus. Not squander it's potential. Be more than the sum of it's parts. Not play intelligence frisbee by passing the scenes off early to monster scares.

  7. RoaryUK
    Quote from: n00b133 on Aug 22, 2012, 09:35:35 AM
    enough with the hate already just because the movie wasnt exactly what you expected. i thought it was great. i dont remember any plotholes, although they did intentionally leave some questions unanswered and im ok with that. i cant wait for this next one, and possibly one more after that. im really curious to see this "paradise" and how everything bridges to the original Alien. and the evolution of the creature itself, of course. the only thing i agree with is that the tone should be a little more eerie. and less cg for the actual alien. other than that, great f**king movie!

    If it's meant to bridge that gap at all.... "Paradise" could just as easily relate to something Shaw's father told her about other peoples beliefs, the question of 'what happens when we die', as seen by David during Shaw's dream in hyper-sleep. We know David knows how her father dies, maybe there's more to see in that scene, but Scott decided it wasn't necessary for the final film.
  8. n00b133
    enough with the hate already just because the movie wasnt exactly what you expected. i thought it was great. i dont remember any plotholes, although they did intentionally leave some questions unanswered and im ok with that. i cant wait for this next one, and possibly one more after that. im really curious to see this "paradise" and how everything bridges to the original Alien. and the evolution of the creature itself, of course. the only thing i agree with is that the tone should be a little more eerie. and less cg for the actual alien. other than that, great f**king movie!
  9. maddriver
    The question of "why" can be answered by saying: we were a lab experiment. A lab experiment gone wrong.
    Examples can be: we turned against them at some point 2000 years ago -or-
    we evolved too far, to the point of being able to colonize space - thus becoming a potential threat

    Those 2 examples and the (known) fact that we tend to be a violent species with a need of conquering, maybe convinced the Elephants that we have to be shut down somehow.

    Or simply the experiment reached the end goal, so the Elephants found no further use for us.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    Perhaps we were nothing more but guinea pigs, who managed to turn against the scientists and even got out of the maze.
    Now, think about what human scientists would do in such a situation? What would human scientists do if ants from an ant farm would've gotten out of the contained area and started spreading in the laboratory itself? You can't handpick each and every ant and place it back in the jar. You think about using a bug spray before the situation gets even worse.
  10. SiL
    Quote from: episodenone on Aug 06, 2012, 03:18:48 AM
    Wait a sec... you're saying the the question of where the Human Race and everything else on the planet Earth if not the entire galaxy / universe is not a profound question?   ???

    Surely you jest.  Because I'd dare say that most astrophysicists and religious zealots would argu it is THE most profound question in Human History.
    Problem is, it isn't asking a question about the origin of life.

    It's asking about the origin of terrestrial life.

    And then saying "Aliens did it".

    This is not profound. This is not intellectually deep, nor is it difficult to fathom. It's every bit the cheap, lazy answer of "God did it". Something did it, something made it; we think this because this is how things work on the human scale. The existence of a watch implies a watchmaker, ergo we conclude that the existence of Man implies some Creator. Prometheus, being sci-fi, proposes its Engineers, and so thinks it's made some grand statement.

    It hasn't.

    Not only that, passing off the origin of life here to something over there doesn't actually answer the question of how life started, it just passes it off to something else. As Holloway himself asks, "Who made them?". If the answer is "Engineer Engineers", it's bullshit. If the answer is "Presumably the same way life in reality started -- no f**kin' clue", then what was the point in the Engineers in the first place?

    But I admit I have missed what Prometheus clearly considers its biggest question -- not who, but why. Why make us?

    Except the film never answers this. Nor does it give the audience the tools it needs to answer this. It doesn't even give the audience enough to begin justifying their own beliefs. All they can do is form an opinion and scrounge the film for scraps of information to tentatively support what amounts to musing. It throws the question out, dangling it in front of the audience, looking so God-damned pleased with itself because of it, and then tears it away and says "Nope, horror movie ending now, see you for part 2 when we get around to answering what is, ostensibly, the question that justifies this film's existence in the first place."

    There's nothing smart or clever or deep or intellectual about posing a question in a vacuum. The film hardly seems bothered to make us interested in the question anyway. It's dropped in a handful of dialogue, but every time something comes up the movie throws another tentacle monster at us.

    tl;dr "Did aliens do it?" is a boring horseshit non-answer to a legitimately intellectually stimulating question and saying "Why did aliens do it?" isn't actually profound or meaningful unless you actually give the audience something to mull on.
  11. T Dog
    Quote from: episodenone on Aug 06, 2012, 03:11:54 AM
    Quote from: tmjhur on Aug 04, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
    God it's not bloody hard.

    Not for nothing -- but you've done it, right?   :-\

    Fact: The vast majority of movies that come out are not worth the film they were printed on.

    The fact that this movie attempted to tackle the subject matter it did and a great if not perfect movie came from it is proof that it's much harder than you seem to think.

    Because of all the other movies in its genre that were this good?  The last Sci Fi movie [without an Alien monster in it] that was this good and thought of in the regard it has been by an awful lot of people might have been 2001 -- an altogether different take on the same subject "where did we come from" and it took a second movie to try and answer the questions of the first- -- not to mention 3 or 4 more novels.

    "God - it IS not that bloody hard" and the above post is simply post simply "Agreed"  ::) -- where is your film?  I'll watch it.  Not a film maker?  What was the last thing you've done personally on this scale that received this much positive [and negative] attention?  Where is your 100 movie long list of films in this genre that were better?

    ??? ??? ???

    I was making issue of the post production editing, the bad use of sound and music which amounted to no atmosphere, bad pacing and ultimately didn't pull me into the feeling of watching a movie.

    You know what, yeah I think I could have done a better job at editing sections of Prometheus> I would've attempted to better pace the film and find a better way to handle having multiple characters instead of simply letting it be a series of scenes played one after the other. Nothing gelled particularly.
    I've honestly been half thinking of recutting Prometheus when the DVD comes out, add a different score add in the deleted scenes. Kind of like what Topher Grace did with Star Wars Episode 1-3.
  12. redalert51
    Quote from: episodenone on Aug 06, 2012, 03:11:54 AM
    Quote from: tmjhur on Aug 04, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
    God it's not bloody hard.

    Not for nothing -- but you've done it, right?   :-\

    Fact: The vast majority of movies that come out are not worth the film they were printed on.

    The fact that this movie attempted to tackle the subject matter it did and a great if not perfect movie came from it is proof that it's much harder than you seem to think.

    Because of all the other movies in its genre that were this good?  The last Sci Fi movie [without an Alien monster in it] that was this good and thought of in the regard it has been by an awful lot of people might have been 2001 -- an altogether different take on the same subject "where did we come from" and it took a second movie to try and answer the questions of the first- -- not to mention 3 or 4 more novels.

    "God - it IS not that bloody hard" and the above post is simply post simply "Agreed"  ::) -- where is your film?  I'll watch it.  Not a film maker?  What was the last thing you've done personally on this scale that received this much positive [and negative] attention?  Where is your 100 movie long list of films in this genre that were better?

    ??? ??? ???
    Ridley Scott has mentioned on record as admirer of 2001 A Space Odyssey ,,,
  13. episodenone
    Quote from: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 03:21:02 AM
    I think Sil might've been trying to say "It's been done".

    And so what?  Unless you're trying to tell me it was answered somewhere I am unaware of and thus there is a new most profound question that the human race would like answered.

    Sorry - but let's stop sending rovers to Mars -- "It's been done"

    Oh - yes - no one is writing any books on it anymore either.  Good grief.

    Can Time mag stop putting out it's annual God issue -- because it's been done.

    Also -- no more rookie cop dramas on TV please -- it's been done.  And of course - no A-Team sequels -- it's been done.
  14. episodenone
    Quote from: SiL on Aug 05, 2012, 10:27:57 PM
    Maybe this time they could make a movie that's actually as smart as it thinks it is. Or at least, stop acting like asking "Where did we come from? Aliens?" is some kind of deep, profound question. It isn't.

    Wait a sec... you're saying the the question of where the Human Race and everything else on the planet Earth if not the entire galaxy / universe is not a profound question?   ???

    Surely you jest.  Because I'd dare say that most astrophysicists and religious zealots would argu it is THE most profound question in Human History. 


    Quote from: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 03:17:24 AM
    Ah, the old "Let's see yo do better" argument.

    It isn't an argument at all.

    That aside, yes it generally IS that hard.  Though it is easier when you're Ridley Scott.

    Yes - we can call me out on a logical fallacy -- but I am not asking that.

    I am saying if it's so easy - and this isn't the quality of film I think is -- then tell me what you say is.  So I have a frame of reference.

    Seriously SM - you might not realize the passive / aggressive nature of nearly all your posts -- but jeez you sure do like to stir things up -- and my guess is you'd deny it.
  15. SM
    Ah, the old "Let's see yo do better" argument.

    It isn't an argument at all.

    That aside, yes it generally IS that hard.  Though it is easier when you're Ridley Scott.
  16. episodenone
    Quote from: tmjhur on Aug 04, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
    God it's not bloody hard.

    Not for nothing -- but you've done it, right?   :-\

    Fact: The vast majority of movies that come out are not worth the film they were printed on.

    The fact that this movie attempted to tackle the subject matter it did and a great if not perfect movie came from it is proof that it's much harder than you seem to think.

    Because of all the other movies in its genre that were this good?  The last Sci Fi movie [without an Alien monster in it] that was this good and thought of in the regard it has been by an awful lot of people might have been 2001 -- an altogether different take on the same subject "where did we come from" and it took a second movie to try and answer the questions of the first- -- not to mention 3 or 4 more novels.

    "God - it IS not that bloody hard" and the above post is simply post simply "Agreed"  ::) -- where is your film?  I'll watch it.  Not a film maker?  What was the last thing you've done personally on this scale that received this much positive [and negative] attention?  Where is your 100 movie long list of films in this genre that were better?

    ??? ??? ???
  17. Tough little S.O.B.
    Quote from: tmjhur on Aug 04, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
    God it's not bloody hard.

    Use more appropriate music and sound design that doesn't constantly try and force the audience into feeling "oh booooyyyy this is EPIC Duuuuude". Either make an atmospheric horror movie or make a hard science fiction movie. The two obviously don't seem to mesh and just cause each other to fizzle out.

    Have more focused plotting. Having groups of characters all over the place that you have to keep cutting to and from just disintegrates the forward momentum of the plotting. If you are going to try and do this, watch Magnolia, notice how that movie uses music to weave a flowing tapestry that handles a several story lines simultaneously.

    Scrub up the creature CGI.

    Don't have so many plot holes, and don't make me pay 9 euro only to get 50% of a story. If you are going to give the audience a half assed story then make sure that you make up for it by having the movie dripping in mood and atmosphere.

    Stop being so up your own arses. The audience is smarter than you think. Stop treating us like bufoons. Use your millions of dollars to make something highly artistic and forward reaching that cuts to the core of human feelings.

    Agree.
  18. Mediteralien
    Quote from: SiL on Aug 05, 2012, 10:27:57 PM
    Maybe this time they could make a movie that's actually as smart as it thinks it is. Or at least, stop acting like asking "Where did we come from? Aliens?" is some kind of deep, profound question. It isn't.

    I agree. The lack of wonder and amazement on the screen (in response to those questions of human origins and the potential answers) was reflected in the audience. It was much more intriguing to see the environment, and consider the origins of the engineers.

    I'm now interested to see how they are going to integrate more human characters in this next film (as in human actors/actresses). I don't think it's wise to return to this same planet with a search squad, but it would be odd to find Earthlings on other engineer planets (unless Yutani is involved?). Hmm..
  19. SiL
    Maybe this time they could make a movie that's actually as smart as it thinks it is. Or at least, stop acting like asking "Where did we come from? Aliens?" is some kind of deep, profound question. It isn't.
  20. T Dog
    I don't think the visuals or the music and sound design are bad by themselves.
    I just don't think they gel together well, they don't marry to enhance and heighten the power of either of them and thus they fall flat.
  21. 180924609
    On the subject of the score...

    I have to admit that both 'A Planet' and 'Life' from the Prometheus soundtrack are now irrevocably part of my music collection. I do love 'A Planet' but it was definitely a stroke of genius to override it to incorporate a more 'positive themed' mood for the sacrificial engineer prelude.

    I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that 'A Planet' was originally intended to be used for the 'beginning of time' sequence.
  22. Darth Vile
    Quote from: tmjhur on Aug 05, 2012, 04:53:23 PM
    Quote from: Darth Vile on Aug 05, 2012, 03:57:16 PM
    Quote from: tmjhur on Aug 05, 2012, 12:49:10 PM
    I think I would have enjoyed Prometheus a lot more had the music/editing and pacing been more focused and atmospheric. I feel like those aspects of the production let it down and opened the gateway to all the other criticisms. For myself anyway.
    It really depends on what your definition of atmospheric is. It terms of style, Prometheus is closer to Gladiator than it is to Alien or Bladerunner. I don't think Scott was going for something particularly atmospheric... but rather grande/epic.



    Well I think the film fails in that respect. It's grandiose, and simply put, the music doesn't marry the visuals in a lot of cases. There is no substance at the core. Nothing sucks you in. There is no focus, just lots of things going on but with no flow and gelling between them all.

    Alien and Blade Runner have simple stories but the atmosphere, the marriage between the sound and visuals sucks you in.
    I think Prometheus is visually quite epic and grandiose... regardless of whether one likes the movie or not. I personally quite like the score... and I find it very reminiscent of other Jerry Goldsmith work - including the main theme from Alien.

    In terms of Alien and Blade Runner - I'd agree about the former but not the latter. Blade Runner is not that simple, and whilst I've always loved the movie (from both a visual and narrative perspective), I know just as many people who don't get it or out and out dislike it... and remember Blade Runner was not that well received with audiences upon initial release.


    Quote from: BANE on Aug 05, 2012, 06:56:30 PM
    I have to admit, in a few instances the music really took away from the eeriness of the scene. That epic music played in parts that were supposed to be creepy, taking a whole lot of any feelings of danger or fear from the scene.
    Any specific examples Bane? I thought the music worked more than it didn't - thinking specifically of 'Going In' and Engineers' - which seemed to fit perfectly with what happened in the temple/ship.
  23. BANE
    I have to admit, in a few instances the music really took away from the eeriness of the scene. That epic music played in parts that were supposed to be creepy, taking a whole lot of any feelings of danger or fear from the scene.
  24. T Dog
    Quote from: Darth Vile on Aug 05, 2012, 03:57:16 PM
    Quote from: tmjhur on Aug 05, 2012, 12:49:10 PM
    I think I would have enjoyed Prometheus a lot more had the music/editing and pacing been more focused and atmospheric. I feel like those aspects of the production let it down and opened the gateway to all the other criticisms. For myself anyway.
    It really depends on what your definition of atmospheric is. It terms of style, Prometheus is closer to Gladiator than it is to Alien or Bladerunner. I don't think Scott was going for something particularly atmospheric... but rather grande/epic.



    Well I think the film fails in that respect. It's grandiose, and simply put, the music doesn't marry the visuals in a lot of cases. There is no substance at the core. Nothing sucks you in. There is no focus, just lots of things going on but with no flow and gelling between them all.

    Alien and Blade Runner have simple stories but the atmosphere, the marriage between the sound and visuals sucks you in.
  25. BANE
    The standard definition of a plothole includes unlikely character behaviours. Which I don't tend to count, as literally every fiction movie has instances of that.
  26. Darth Vile
    Quote from: tmjhur on Aug 05, 2012, 12:49:10 PM
    I think I would have enjoyed Prometheus a lot more had the music/editing and pacing been more focused and atmospheric. I feel like those aspects of the production let it down and opened the gateway to all the other criticisms. For myself anyway.
    It really depends on what your definition of atmospheric is. It terms of style, Prometheus is closer to Gladiator than it is to Alien or Bladerunner. I don't think Scott was going for something particularly atmospheric... but rather grande/epic.


    Quote from: DaddyYautja on Aug 05, 2012, 12:10:33 PM
    Quote from: BANE on Aug 04, 2012, 07:22:38 PM
    f**k off with this plot hole nonsense. Jesus. You don't know what the term means.

    You might want to remind yourself of the definition, there are a good amount of plot holes in this movie.
    I think the only element coming close to a plot hole is Janek's statement to Shaw about the temple being a weapons factory... which I assume is because of a missing scene/dialogue. The rest are more conveniences than anything else.
  27. T Dog
    I think I would have enjoyed Prometheus a lot more had the music/editing and pacing been more focused and atmospheric. I feel like those aspects of the production let it down and opened the gateway to all the other criticisms. For myself anyway.
  28. Darth Vile
    Quote from: tmjhur on Aug 04, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
    Stop being so up your own arses. The audience is smarter than you think. Stop treating us like bufoons.
    Unfortunately audiences aren't that bright (or to be generous - not that discerning)... generally speaking that is. Audiences tend to get the movies they deserve... They want to be entertained by something with little to think about. Look at the box office stats for most popular films this year...
  29. hfeldhaus
    Quote from: BANE on Aug 04, 2012, 07:22:38 PM
    f**k off with this plot hole nonsense. Jesus. You don't know what the term means.

    plot holes isnt the right term to use when talking about prometheus, some points are unexplained but there are no holes.

    Quote from: tmjhur on Aug 04, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
    God it's not bloody hard.

    Use more appropriate music and sound design that doesn't constantly try and force the audience into feeling "oh booooyyyy this is EPIC Duuuuude". Either make an atmospheric horror movie or make a hard science fiction movie. The two obviously don't seem to mesh and just cause each other to fizzle out.

    Have more focused plotting. Having groups of characters all over the place that you have to keep cutting to and from just disintegrates the forward momentum of the plotting. If you are going to try and do this, watch Magnolia, notice how that movie uses music to weave a flowing tapestry that handles a several story lines simultaneously.

    Scrub up the creature CGI.

    Don't have so many plot holes, and don't make me pay 9 euro only to get 50% of a story. If you are going to give the audience a half assed story then make sure that you make up for it by having the movie dripping in mood and atmosphere.

    Stop being so up your own arses. The audience is smarter than you think. Stop treating us like bufoons. Use your millions of dollars to make something highly artistic and forward reaching that cuts to the core of human feelings.


    the creature CGI was very good, apart from a couple shots of the trilobite. actually, after reading through the whole of your post, it seems your not part of this 'smart' audience.
  30. ThisBethesdaSea
    I would agree that Ridley Scott and Co. 'getting it right' as it were is something that was and is absolutely doable, and there's no excuse that the film was filled with so many nonsensical plot holes. Scott's pretty arrogant, and in some ways, the failings of Prometheus serve him right.

    On the other hand, I'm of the opinion that what Prometheus got right....got it masterfully right!
  31. T Dog
    God it's not bloody hard.

    Use more appropriate music and sound design that doesn't constantly try and force the audience into feeling "oh booooyyyy this is EPIC Duuuuude". Either make an atmospheric horror movie or make a hard science fiction movie. The two obviously don't seem to mesh and just cause each other to fizzle out.

    Have more focused plotting. Having groups of characters all over the place that you have to keep cutting to and from just disintegrates the forward momentum of the plotting. If you are going to try and do this, watch Magnolia, notice how that movie uses music to weave a flowing tapestry that handles a several story lines simultaneously.

    Scrub up the creature CGI.

    Don't have so many plot holes, and don't make me pay 9 euro only to get 50% of a story. If you are going to give the audience a half assed story then make sure that you make up for it by having the movie dripping in mood and atmosphere.

    Stop being so up your own arses. The audience is smarter than you think. Stop treating us like bufoons. Use your millions of dollars to make something highly artistic and forward reaching that cuts to the core of human feelings.
  32. AmazSpiderMan1
    Quote from: Xenomorphine on Aug 04, 2012, 01:48:08 AM
    The music was beautiful. Possibly the best in the entire series. I just wasn't engaged by anything in the film (aside from the starting and ending credit sequences). Certainly not scared/horrified/unsettled; which has always been one of the main critiques of the third film - that it's meant to be a horror film and fails to do any scaring (admittedly, for most people; there are probably some who felt otherwise). Something apparently shared with 'Prometheus'.

    Incidentally, if you run the 'Alien 3' and 'Interview With the Vampire' soundtracks back to back, it's like one huge score for a single film. Some differences, but... Very similar in style.

    Haha, I always noticed the sound effect used when Cruise bites Pitt on the ship in the beginning sounded exactly like whenever the Alien showed up behind somebody in "Alien 3". It's a very specific cue.
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