WhatCulture have an interesting article covering five things we’d like to see in a sequel to Prometheus. First up is seeing more of the Engineers such as the Engineer homeworld. Next up is answers to the mysteries like ‘Why did the Engineers want to destroy us?’ and ‘Why did they create us?’. The third item is Originality such as exploring new ideas. Next up is an obvious one: a better screenplay and lastly is more Shaw and David.
Prometheus opened a window onto the world of our creators, providing us with a thought-provoking glimpse into their role as the Engineers of life in the universe, and offering insights into their biomechanical and often abstract use of technology (let’s try to forget the pied piper of Hamelin moment!). I loved the Engineers, especially how they looked- Alien’s ‘space-jockey’ was brought to life beautifully on the big screen in all its genetically enhanced marble skinned glory- and I really look forward to seeing more of them in the sequel.
Though remnants of their cosmic handiwork abounds in Prometheus- caves, carvings, ships, murals – they appear in person only fleetingly… We see our first Engineer in the opening sequence, which attributes the Däniken-esque origins of mankind on Earth to the sacrifice of one of their number. Then, with the exception of their appearance in several holographic replays hinting at a catastrophe on the moon of LV-223 some 2000 years ago, we are introduced to another- the sole surviving occupant of a cryochamber who is rudely awakened from twenty centuries of stony sleep and asked (we think!) to reveal the secrets of eternal life to Peter Weyland. No subtitles are offered to explain the Engineer’s violent reaction, making it as terrifying as it is baffling.
I think it’s fair to say most of us would agree with that list. Anything else to add? Thanks to amazing_prometheus for the news.
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when people ask me how I reacted to that horror movie called Prometheus I casually look at them and say "ho-rror movie?"
while sticking a few syringes in my mouth.
"i was too busy thinking about how the intergalactic politics in star-wars work in this movie while sticking syringes in my mouth."
The first word that came to mind when I walked out of the theater was "disapointing". I saw the same look on people who walked out of the previous showing while in line. It was a complete dud. I'm sure the 20-year olds who trampled over one another to see the silly "Battleship" and "Transformer" movies loved it, but not me. It was a complete waste of energy and technical expertise. It never connected emotionally -- and what could anybody expect, since Lindelof wrote the story in 2 WEEKS. That's the problem with all these inferior movies nowadays. Too much emphasis on CGI and mindless action and not enough time spent on story, plot and character development. If you don't connect the audience emotionally, you fail. It's that simple.
The movie left way to many unanswered questions. Including: Why did these "Engineers" hate the humans they supposedly created? And how was Shaw going to survive on an alien spacecraft with no food or water? Also, how did the alien ship take off with no apparent propulsion equipment or fuel stores, and why didn't it break apart when it crashed on the planet? The blastoff of the ship sadly resembled the same scenes in the endings of the last "Indiana Jones" and first "X-Files" movies. They can do better. They're were also many biological problems with the story. Like the co-joining of alien DNA with human DNA, as well as the accellerating macro-evolution of the new species. Those scenes of the pregnancy we're copied from the old 1980's TV series "V", where one of the visitors had sex with a human girl. How pathetic.
I will never add this to my collection of over 2000 films in my library, nor do I ever desire seeing it again -- just like "Alien Resurrection".
Overall, the production design was excellent as is usually the case, but the story was unsuspensful and lame. I gave the movie a "GENEROUS" B-. It was pretty bad for a high concept (epic) production.
Please don't make a sequel. "Prometheus" and "Super 8" were too much for me.
FUNNY! More articles are coming- great news! :-)
I kind of liked the albino muscle boys. That's what the sequel is going to be about, I assure you.
Engineers.
I hear you but I don't blame any of those movies you listed above. I found the development of the alien throughout the series to be quite good and thoroughly enjoyed the visual representations of the Alien as it evolved with the technology of filmmaking. There may be elements of the sequels and AvP that suck but the Alien kicks ass in all of them. I do not agree with Scott's statement that the Alien isn't scary anymore Disneyland ride or no Disneyland ride 'cause something that plants an embryo in your chest that hatches as an evil version of your DNA will always be scary. Your statement "(adding any more sentient alien races would just end up ridiculous.)" is pretty much what happened anyways. Albino Weight lifter Engineers is pretty damn rediculous, I'm just saying that if you're gonna do stuff like that, try not to rape the original materiel in the process-which I think they came close to avoiding actually, closer than AvP without a doubt...everything except the spacejockey as a suit existed independent of the original Alien.
Why can't we all just get along in perfect harmony?!
Perhaps the sequel could be FANBOYS VS HATEBOYS... Dum dum dum! Haha
Anyways the writer- the WhatCulture dude- who wrote this has a page with several articles on here:
http://wp.me/2tPJ3
I sent him a mail via his twitter account (@BenjiTaylorWins) and he said he is seeing Prometheus for the 3rd time this week then posting an article on 'Prometheus answers' and 'Prometheus and myth': it looks like he is some kind of literature and mythology buff so I expect them to be interesting!
Anyway definitely worth checking out his artlces, I loved this one on the sequel!
AND REMEMBER you people- be lovers, not fighters! Opinions are like bum-holes, everyone has and needs one!
Yeah, thats completely stupid idea, imagine if original starwars had prequel with sequel.... OH WAIT!
You are certainly entitled to your own opinion. What I was questioning was your logic. You said you can't see any demand for a sequel. You state that based solely on your own negative impression of the movie. But whether a sequel will be made isn't based on your own opinion. It is based on the box office and whether enough audience likes it. As I said, on both counts things are looking favorable to a sequel (although I agree it's highly unlikely Fox has already made a sequel).
Also MrT, your review IS very much based on your expectation. You said you expected a Giger fest not angry bald guys (see your own post 37). That is your expectation of the movie. Don't deny it.
Again, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, negative or positive. But don't deny you were upset with the film because it didn't meet your expectation. There is no shame in admitting that.
Engineers are stars! I want more of then and LESS PLOT HOLES!
Agreed! Would be too much risk and FOX the company would be risk averse.
I think the Avatar series is going to be shite simply because they are trying to release so much garbage based on the one movie so quickly. Bet you if they release a Prometheus sequal this quickly it will be about Shaw heading back to the planet just moments after leaving and realizing they must kill the new born thing and that will be that only to find there are hundreds of them spawning. Thats the James Cameron route. They'll just have to spend a 200 mill to make hundreds of silly costumes of the new born and stupid ass marines show up all of a sudden with their egos inflated whom are all going to die.
I would like to see the extended cut - in 3D- in cinemas.
You can blame AVP and to a lesser extent...Aliens, Alien 3 and Resurrection. It made the Alien not scary any more. The series had to be expanded in a different way. This left only the Space Jockies as the last alternative (adding any more sentient alien races would just end up ridiculous. It needs to stay just Humans, Xenos (and their relatives) and Jockies.
Ridley's repeatedly expressed a desire to helm a sequel. If the numbers support it (and it's looking like they do), I'd bet we'll get one.
these days hollywood is surviving on remakes, sequels and prequels.
i mean, AVP got a sequel. i'm confident we'll see one or more Prometheus sequels
Just because Prometheus does not match your expectation of what an alien movie is about does not make it a bad movie.
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Its not that it didn't match MY expectations. It's more the fact it is a sloppy piece of movie making. It is a bad movie. Accept that fact and that I have a right to my own opinion.
The extended cut that will be released in fall or next year.
THEN we will be able to really judge the movie.
A better term is 'flawed' - we're all aware of those flaws, but they bother some people more than others.
It worries me that people get so aggro when someone either thinks its amazing or thinks its terrible- its a movie! Not everyone will love it but one cannot find it objectively good or objectively bad.
Please learn to appreciate other peoples views people, even
if you don't agree with them.
I thought Prometheus was deficient in many parts, but that doesn't make me stupider or cleverer than someone who thought it was utterly brilliant. I am glad some people got so much out of the film.
Hate to break this to you, but just because you think the movie is bad does not mean the rest of the world agrees with you. What counts is the box office and whether enough of the audience likes it. So far on both counts it is favourable to a sequel.
Just because Prometheus does not match your expectation of what an alien movie is about does not make it a bad movie.
It's hilarious how they get so offended if someone actually thought Prometheus was a decent flick. I think they are so wrapped up what they want out of an alien movie that they totally ignore any good things about Prometheus (and there are some good ideas in the movie). No, keep repeating that you think the movie sucks does not make your comment any more credible than mine.
Keep your fingers crossed that may happen for the sequel
It all goes wrong because of the battle the Engineers were engaged in and how they suddenly sealed off the door, decapitating the one Engineer, causing the improper shutdown. leaving the atmosphere outside only partially converted. It was reacting to the change in atmosphere but mainly the sudden presence of oxygen in that chamber. I think this was a chamber that's part of the system and intended to alter the atmosphere, but the way they left the temple partially running, & pumping out oxygen affected this chamber when it was finally opened. The sudden change from outside, now that the planet has returned to it's normal atmosphere, caused the sudden degradation. It wouldn't be a problem if the thing had been shut down before being sealed off, or if there was no oxygen present in the rest of the temple to rush in. Also causes the sudden restart of the ancient atmospheric processor when the doors opened, which could be powered by one form of the life altering substance.
So, the actual atmosphere outside begins to change.. which was in the process of being converted for use by the Engineers, and is now partially being processed again. However it all malfunctions at first, because the air outside has returned to normal over the 2000 years. The weather picks up and this causes Janek to warn them of a sudden, huge storm approaching. The humans/engineers can breathe in the temple, and I think David messed everything up, made things degrade because of the state the Engineers left the facility in. But he also made it so the air outside started being converted again. So does it generate oxygen and atmosphere, possibly even the first stages of plant life to make the planet habitable by way of some form of the magic goo in a more controlled form? I guess what I'm saying is does this thing mine/convert the toxins in the air into something they can breathe or use if concentrated and mixed as a weapon? Sort of a parallel to what the flamethrower does to produce fire.
I expected an all out Giger fest and we got over CGI'd angry bald guys, giant squids and the dumbest set of characters since AVP Requiem. Was not impressed.
Prometheus is so poor and has had so much bad press Ridley would be wise to forget the sequel and focus on making Blade Runner 2 a half descent film. He needs to redeem himself. BIG TIME!
lol most ignorant comment ever! Try watching a movie without any plot holes, say for example The Deer Hunter or Shawshank Redemption or One Flew Over the Cukoos Nest or Carlitos' Way, and then tell me Promethus just takes "a little imagination."
Not aliens exactly but i would love to see what kind of "out of this wourld" weaponry the engineers have and use. How about a weapon that when it hits its target it instantly transforms them into some sort of biowepoan to be used against others.......
That would be awsome.......
Like you, I never got the explicit impression that the Engineers needed their helmets to survive the atmosphere. If anything, I felt that the helmet might be more of an interface with the starmap/navigation 'cannon'. But if I've missed anything, I'm all ears!
Yes, when Ford says it would be like sucking on a tail pipe. That doesn't mean that the Engineers needed helmets to survive - the reason for the Engineer's helmet is never properly established.
Thanks for the mention!
I love the article and agree with it totally.
@G8RSG1...
The issue I believe he is pointing out is that the helmets were needed to survive in the moon's atmosphere! The film makes reference to this earlier. So it's a plot issue/ continuity issue for sure.
All- this is not being lazy... it's just a deficiency in the screenplay as far as I am concerned.
:-(
The plot issue is HOW could he survive in the atmosphere without his helmet, when the screenplay has already established that engineers and humans need them!
For all you know, his helmet could have been damaged in the crash.
"You can pay me on the other side...''
"Father"!"
... and several Holloway points.
Screenplay was worse than dialogue- pacing, and plot issues (eg- SJ attacks Shaw with no helmet, why did he take his helmet off when he had to walk in the atmosphere outside to get to her, after putting it on ?!)
It's still applicable regardless of how lazy the reviewer was in his or her word choice, lol.
then why are you here?
I agree somewhat with this statement. By no means am I saying that Prometheus was problem free because it wasn't. I have read some posts on here and other various forums that I frequently go to where a lot of negative criticism is from people who just didn't pay close enough attention to the movie. Of course things being left unanswered doesn't always mean it is a good movie, but in this case, in my opinion, it works okay for Prometheus. The first time I saw Prometheus, I was in the middle, but leaning more towards to the fact that I just didn't like it. During my second viewing with my friends who haven't seen it, I started to like the movie more. I caught some things that I didn't catch the first time around (second viewing was better since it was on a weekday afternoon, so less people). I mean, there are people out there who prefer a movie that just straight up gives you answers or hand feeds you it. I think if Prometheus' script and execution was better, the movie ending with lingering questions would work out fine.