Three new featurettes from Fox India have been uploaded today onto Youtube. The videos focus on Elizabeth Shaw and Holloway. Unfortunately you can’t hear the original voices due to the voice over but the new footage is definitely worth a look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkYLSSKTJ-w
Thanks to seeasea and Bad Replicant for the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAms4iz9yy0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EsbOmr5A-4
and wut is the giant butthole @ :31?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VmOny0Dmfo#ws
And, to be quite honest, his character appears to be very willing to sacrifice himself for the safety of others based on that storm clip in the 3-in-1 clip. I know it's Shaw he's trying to help out but I think his character's douchiness might decrease as the film plays out. And I've met people like him in real life. The sad reality is that there are people like Holloway who need something to happen in order to get put in their place.
Thanks for posting that. I think it is very honest.
Both Charlize and Shark Teeth have said that the movie starts with them already in space. The rest of the crew probably vaguely knew the details of where they were going and why.
I would argue that only Weyland and Vickers know the true mission objective, however, even if Holloway and Shaw are the true scientists... all the others would need to be briefed as to what they planned upon arrival. If you have ever tried to convey information to people to prepare them for something, you normally do it before you get to wherever you are going. You don't want to have to constantly correct people about what they need to be doing.
Only Peter Weyland, Vickers, holloway and Shaw know the mission objective.
Well I guess we will see... seems strange that nothing would be discussed before they left.
I thought the invitation line is given on earth before they ever leave, when they are seated in the hanger looking room and LMG is playing with the holograms from the different civilizations.
Maybe they're not long out of hypersleep - doesn't her character reportedly spend time throwing up after she's woken up. I have to say, I look less than fabe when I've been chucking up first thing of a morning.
I'm just hoping the line from Noomi about it being an ivitation doesn't make me think of Gandalf's line from Lord of the Rings, when he tells Bilbo he's trying to protect him after getting angry. That line delivery just came out weird, I catch it everytime I see the movie.
No, it happened.
Oh and then me and Rafe Spall... or was that a dream?
Oh, I have one.
I shook Conan O'Brien's hand during his last week on NBC.
Okay, but how's my hair?
yasss. thank you!!
the hilighted part of your post is complete and utter patronising bullshit !! (to put it politely)
the handsomeness/hunkiness/swoonworthiness or whatever you want to call it, of a character or actor, has absolutely NOTHING at all to do with how happy or otherwise I am with his inclusion in a movie like this
but it does have everything to do with how well and how convincingly he delivers his lines, how convincingly he plays a role, and how transparent he is in doing so
LMG looks like he's trying to act a part, and he sounds like he's reading his lines off a cue card for the first time - amateurish in the extreme
Its really the first time in a long time that a performance (or at least what weve seen of it so far) has stood out so much from the rest, simply from viewing the trailers, for being so glaringly bad
He sticks out like a sore thumb amongst that ensemble cast of talent, and it has absolutely zippo to do with his looks
Cast a breathtakingly beautiful male model type in the role and if his acting is seamless and you totally 'buy' him as that character, purely because his performance is so good, so natural, and so believable.........it certainly wont matter one jot to me how gorgeous he is........and you definitely wont hear any complaints from me - for me its all about the acting and LMG just doesnt cut it here
It's on CinestarTV, also today at 3pm.
these subtitles are in my language. i wonder what channel this was on
anyway. looooooove them. idc LGM's acting is great, i don't know why so many are complaining (i'm using these and the new clips as proof)
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Again, really, for me, I've seen Marshall-Green in other television and film and this role is quite a departure. He's a solid performer, I see no problem with him. I frankly think part of the overblown response to the guy is the character, who is clearly brash, reckless and IMO condescending towards Shaw and certainly David, and that's who he is meant to be. And yeah, I roll my eyes at some of Holloway's foolish attitude like anyone else. But part of the reaction is, I feel, a knee-jerk response to the presence of a young, handsome man who ticks demographic boxes, which, I think, is seen by some as supposedly anathema in an Alien film.
I personally don't see it that way. Both Michael Biehn and Tom Skerritt were reasonably popular and attractive young, up and coming leading men when they played Hicks and Dallas, but it was not the form and function of their character. Neither is it so with Marshall-Green as Holloway. I think times have changed, looks have changed, style and film certainly, but I don't think that's what LMG's casting as Holloway was about. I suspect his stage work was seen and that's what got him the gig, because he's awfully good. I don't think it's a case of "how dare they cast a hunk in an Alien movie as a shameless attempt to curry the female demographic with this pretty boy" - I never remotely thought it was that.
Marshall-Green is playing what appears to be an arrogant, supremely self-assured egotist of a scientist. Everything about his performance and appearance - right down to the ascot, no doubt - is calculated to generate that. I'm sure Holloway is not a truly awful human being, but he leads with the arrogance. I personally find his and Shaw's relationship fascinating to ponder, because as I've said before, he seems to lead the charge, even as he's simultaneously putting her and her passion down ("I want to crush all man-made religions" - why?). I don't know why they're together, how they've related given his ego and her apparent demure shyness, and I want to. I can believe he loves her, but their dynamic seems thorny and imperfect - and interesting.
I have no further opinions on any of the other actors or their personal lives, except to say that Michael Fassbender may in fact be the finest leading man of our times and casting him was genius.
It's possible but remember, there are billions of people on the planet, thre is probably lots of good guys in the world.
Honestly, I don't find Fassbender that attractive. He's got a certain charm to him and he has a decent body but his face isn't all that (in my opinion). Logan Marshall Green is a little more attractive, I'll admit. He reminds me of Tom Hardy who I like but he's still not one of my favourites.
But when it comes down to acting, looks don't count for anything. It doesn't matter if you're supermodel material or need to put a paperbag on your head - if you can't act, looks won't mask anything or sway my judgement. Charlize Theron is beautiful and she's one of the strongest actresses of her generation. She is a chameleon and even if she's acted in some mediocre films, she invests in her characters 110%.
So attractiveness and acting don't go hand in hand - not for me, anyway.
I don't question Ridley Scott's talent but nobody is perfect and people can make bad judgement. Ridley might have seen something in Logan Marshall Green he liked but ultimately it might have been a choice that was the weakest link in the casting. I have nothing personal against him. I liked him in Devil but I don't think he's on the level of Fassbender, Rapace and Theron.
Maybe at one point in the film I'll change my mind on his acting and character. Stranger things have happened.
At the end of the day, different strokes for different folks.
Horseshit.
I once touched Dennis Rodman's jacket while he was trying to get into his restaurant in Chicago.
Wait...Well I did see Hunter S. Thompson once.
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"Deeds, Not Words". Something I live my life by. Latin for Latin, "Apercu"
Facta non Verba.
What did you ask her to sign?
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I suppose what you are saying is true, I suppose I should've worded that differently as I have heard the phrase before it just didn't click with my brain while I was typing it all out. Think before you speak, or err..type as they might say.
Looks like I am suffering from Holloway Syndrome, oh dear.
It's just that I've heard it many times before from many different women, and my ex's have all said I was a "awesome" boyfriend as I find douche bags and, the mistreatment of women, and the like as utterly detestable.
And I agree, most of the human race are completely made up of morons.
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Yep. This is true. But it should also be pointed out that "feeling entitled to pussy because you are nice" is just a different species of Douchery.
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English versions of Shaw and Holloway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-DMzhl15E0#ws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANPu1cTUqzc#ws
Just reposting in case people on the forums are confused by why the featurette thread is about dating advice.
But yes, the awful cliches that women mostly go after douche bags is true. But that's because most men are douche bags, and most women are too stupid to tell.
It's less a problem of gender, and more a problem of the entire human race in general being total morons.
Nothing wrong with a bit of excitement; I realize the tiny things that diminish yours.
Ahhh, The Ladies Man. I see, he must be confident in his abilities then.
Admittedly I've had very few relationships, and the relationships I did have were not all that positive(infidelity, dishonesty, etc) and it's true I've witnessed the paradigm you speak of in many past female friends and girlfriends detestable choice in men. Being the "nice guy" is apparently not what most women want decide saying otherwise, but I suppose that is in of itself a bit of a generalization.
I kid, though. I'm sure he's a perfectly respectable gentleman.
You don't know women too well. Look to the collection of knowledge men have on women, Volume 13, Section 157, Subsection 3: Uncontrollable Attraction to Men with Opposite Ideologies, Start with line 1,026.
Alternatively, one could overreact in this completely ridiculous fashion to everything that slithers down the PROMETHEUS pike, however obviously unremarkable it may be:
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I know that the judgement of acting is subjective - there are limits to what one can argue. So when someone says the LMG is a bad actor or hammy or fake or what have you - I can't help but think they are holding something on the side against him.
That and I don't think that such an important player in the story would be depicted by someone who Scott judged to be insufficient or incapable of fulfilling the role.
So...he's a jackass? Fassbinder I mean, regardless of the man's personality he is a phenomenal actor.
That said I don't particularly get all the hullabaloo over Holloway/LMG, I can't say I like him but I can't say I hate him either in fact I keep forgetting he's even in the movie to an extent. For the record Cvalda, my Mother(who wants to see the film based upon my ranting and raving about Alien and the fact she is vaguely familiar with the franchise as a whole) agrees that Holloway seems like a bit...asinine, but not quite her words(Hint: She called him something phallic).
I will say the whole "I want to crush man made religion" line is kind of....wow douche of the year worthy, sadly I've known too many people that act or think in that way and I can say that I won't particularly like his character if he continues to carry on with that kind of attitude.
Which begs the question, in terms of character...how in the HELL could someone like Shaw(who sounds extremely religious) even think about dating/marrying/screwing someone that says such incredibly stupid things as "I WANT TO CRUSH ALL OF MAN MADE RELIGION". I know in a lot of cases opposites attract(not for me, tried that once), but most religious people I've known don't take to kindly to having their religion trashed about in such a manner. I am not particularly religious(I do believe in God) but I do not like when someone tries to assert their view and their opinion on someone.