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  1. Qwertify
    Quote from: ryanjayhawk on May 17, 2012, 04:59:55 PM
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 17, 2012, 03:13:11 PM
    Quote from: ryanjayhawk on May 17, 2012, 12:24:33 AM
    So a program that can analyze someone without them even knowing would be very fitting of the name "quiet eye."

    Take a look at the article above. The "quiet" part is not about making observation without people knowing about it. It is about how the eye quietly gives off information about what a person is thinking/feeling/deciding, etc. It is a concept by which we are able to ascertain that type of information through a person's eye movements.

    Oh I see...

    Someone posts a link to an informative article about "Quiet Eye" and suddenly you have attained a PHd in said science and conceptual theory.  Thank you for blessing us with your profound knowledge.

    The article makes sense, though I don't think my speculation about possible reasons for the name was really that "out there."  None the less it was apparently wrong.

    It wasn't 'out there' at all - I just had my differences with the idea. I was just as wrong too anyway.

    And about the article - I have not heard of Quiet Eye until now, but I do know quite a bit about microexpressions, which is sort of the same thing, except with facial muscles. The rest of the stuff is just reworded from the article. Sorry if I came off as condescending. I am just trying to figure out what the video was all about.

    When the article popped up - I thought you would be interested - so that's why I quoted you again.
    Nevertheless, I have accepted the idea that this could very well just be Weyland using Yutani tech pre-merger as failry viable. I thought you might want to share your thoughts on the Vickers connection.
  2. ryanjayhawk
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 17, 2012, 03:13:11 PM
    Quote from: ryanjayhawk on May 17, 2012, 12:24:33 AM
    So a program that can analyze someone without them even knowing would be very fitting of the name "quiet eye."

    Take a look at the article above. The "quiet" part is not about making observation without people knowing about it. It is about how the eye quietly gives off information about what a person is thinking/feeling/deciding, etc. It is a concept by which we are able to ascertain that type of information through a person's eye movements.

    Oh I see...

    Someone posts a link to an informative article about "Quiet Eye" and suddenly you have attained a PHd in said science and conceptual theory.  Thank you for blessing us with your profound knowledge.

    The article makes sense, though I don't think my speculation about possible reasons for the name was really that "out there."  None the less it was apparently wrong.
  3. Qwertify
    Quote from: ryanjayhawk on May 17, 2012, 12:24:33 AM
    So a program that can analyze someone without them even knowing would be very fitting of the name "quiet eye."

    Take a look at the article above. The "quiet" part is not about making observation without people knowing about it. It is about how the eye quietly gives off information about what a person is thinking/feeling/deciding, etc. It is a concept by which we are able to ascertain that type of information through a person's eye movements.

    So the quiet has nothing to do with either spying nor the manner by which the program operates. As far as the name thing goes we were both off.

    However - whether any spying is going on is still in question as the fact that Vickers is involved complicates everything.

    Whether she is a spy for Yutani is hard to tell. She could be a spy, using a Yutani program directly on Weyland's computer.
    It could be Weyland using Yutani tech.

    All this video tells us, besides the obvious that Yutani has developed a computer program that can analyze everything a person's psychology/emotions based off of microexpressions/eye movements, is that Vickers is strongly linked to it.

    Does it mean she developed it? Does it mean she is linked to Yutani?

    There are so many possibilities - some potentially exciting and others rather mundane.




    Quote from: Godroyah on May 17, 2012, 04:14:59 AM
    I think I understand now...

    "A King has his reign... and then he dies. Its inevitable."

    Vickers was referring to Weyland himself as well as his company.

    She's a corporate spy for Yutani, that's her agenda... I'd bet money on it. Srry if I'm putting a major spoiler out there, but I'd be surprised if that wasn't it.

    How else could Yutani possibly be involved? They're already spying on Weyland in advance of the Project Prometheus. Weyland Industries is obviously the kingpin (pun intended) corporation on Earth... Vicker's quote is definitely in reference to Weyland... and Yutani got her in on the action. I'd be willing to bet money it.

    It could be that she is a spy. Many people are suspicious of the same thing, myself included.

    Another theory suggests that she is Weyland's neglected daughter, who has been trumped in the eyes of her father by David, a combination of Weyland's work and memories.
    Thus, the quote you mentioned can be explained by the idea that she wants her father's grip on the company to slip with this mission so that she can take over as his heiress.
    She wants to do this in either of two ways. Some believe that Weyland is still alive and on board the Prometheus - in search of Alien life to obtain their technology so that he can extend his life. She wants to control the situation to ensure that no such technology is found and that he father does in fact die of old age.
    Another theory ( which I don't agree with) is that she wants the mission to fail so that it appears as if Weyland and his ideas are unsound and unprofitable despite her best efforts to run the mission. This will pave the way for her to take over the company.
  4. Xenomorphine
    'Quiet Eye For The Straight Guy' - it's clearly a new TV reality show the freshly-merged Weyland-Yutani is hoping to premier next month.

    Also, all of Weyland's futuristic visual hardware seemingly being incapable of going for more than ten seconds without glitching? Including their own Web site? At this rate, it's going to be mocked as much as 'Star Trek' having constant lens flares!

    I like the Yutani logo, though. Feels like the right visual they could have had.
  5. AsapJockey
    I guess you guys forgot that Weyland has more money than Yutani, and the merge later, Yutani didn't buy them out...Weylabd is first in the name.

    You remember the first plot summary? "Two Super Powers in a race into space?

    Elizabeth Shaw works for Yutani, but they do not have the resources for this trip, and she's making a call to Peter Weyland, in which he's using a program to see if she's honest about her findings.She is willing to leave Yutani to join Weyland, because he has the capital to make this trip and get the answers, and technology FIRST before Yutani. She is willing to do this, because Yutani doesn't have the $.

    Ergo Elizabeth Shaw is asking Peter for financing, & leaving Yutani to find this Planet which may have the answers to all our questions.
  6. Vepariga
    What if Yutani dont spy on them,Weyland and Yutani do work together now and then but in different fields before merging. like my previous post. I think it could be a valid theory.
  7. Godroyah
    I think I understand now...

    "A King has his reign... and then he dies. Its inevitable."

    Vickers was referring to Weyland himself as well as his company.

    She's a corporate spy for Yutani, that's her agenda... I'd bet money on it. Srry if I'm putting a major spoiler out there, but I'd be surprised if that wasn't it.

    How else could Yutani possibly be involved? They're already spying on Weyland in advance of the Project Prometheus. Weyland Industries is obviously the kingpin (pun intended) corporation on Earth... Vicker's quote is definitely in reference to Weyland... and Yutani got her in on the action. I'd be willing to bet money it.
  8. Vepariga
    In my opinion I think the Quiet Eye is just a interview program that you can leave a message with, the Yutani corp is doing behavioural and background checks for the Weyland corp which then if the candidate is of high interest it forwards it to Weyland,I dare say that Yutani has different tech and research that Weyland corp gets Yutani to do. Before the merger.
  9. ryanjayhawk
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 16, 2012, 10:08:59 PM
    Quote from: ryanjayhawk on May 16, 2012, 09:56:44 PM

    It may be called "Quiet Eye" because the program simply watches the person being interviewed to determine if they are lying... it doesn't interact.


    I read that before posting. A lot of programs run without interacting with other users, especially those used to monitor other people i.e. facebook twitter.
    If it was just supposed to watch - the fact that it doesn't alert you to its presence would seem redundant, especially considering this is a one way transmission she's been sending out for some time. If you disagree - then we'll just be at a disagreement.

    You can disagree, but currently the way lies are detected is by hooking the person up to a lie detector, asking them a series of control questions to set a base, and then asking them questions and measuring the reaction compared to the base.  So a program that can analyze someone without them even knowing would be very fitting of the name "quiet eye."
  10. ChrisPachi
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 16, 2012, 09:12:05 PMCould it be that there will be a merger. Absolutely. Will it be that Yutani is being malicious and will try to take down Weyland by some devious means and force a merger? Or will it all be benign? Or is something much larger at play going on here. I am far from certain. Not going to read any more into this for now.

    I wouldn't bother reading too much into the viral stuff. It's a mess of contradictions IMO.
  11. Glaive
    Has anyone checked out what the Japanese is for 'Private'?
    ...and if it has ANY OTHER MEANINGS/TRANSLATIONS...?

    ...just a suggestion...


    What I'm saying is MANY cultures don't have a word for 'privacy'...so 'Quiet Eye' could be translated as 'Private Eye'.

    Which opens a whole new can-o-worms...
  12. Qwertify
    Quote from: ryanjayhawk on May 16, 2012, 09:56:44 PM

    It may be called "Quiet Eye" because the program simply watches the person being interviewed to determine if they are lying... it doesn't interact.


    I read that before posting. A lot of programs run without interacting with other users, especially those used to monitor other people i.e. facebook twitter.
    If it was just supposed to watch - the fact that it doesn't alert you to its presence would seem redundant, especially considering this is a one way transmission she's been sending out for some time. If you disagree - then we'll just be at a disagreement.
  13. ryanjayhawk
    Quote from: ryanjayhawk on May 16, 2012, 08:31:09 PM
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 16, 2012, 08:12:10 PM
    Quote from: metalos on May 16, 2012, 08:02:26 PM
    I watched the video again, and i noticed a thing.

    On the "Quiet Eye"'s interface we can see that:

    LIC Weyland Corp. - IDV User: P. Weyland

    So the Weyland Corp. was LICensed the software, and Peter Weyland is using that.

    No - that is just his number he is calling. He doesn't even have to be on the other line and nothing suggest the material was licensed. If anything - the program is most likely a spy tool - for why would Weyland need a 3rd party program to look at incoming messages? And if he did - why the hell would they call it Quiet Eye? It seriously sounds like a spy tool.

    The same reason Apple purchased SIRI, only if Yutani is large enough, purchasing them outright might be hard thus the merger that happens at some point in the future. 

    It may be called "Quiet Eye" because the program simply watches the person being interviewed to determine if they are lying... it doesn't interact.

  14. metalos
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 16, 2012, 09:12:05 PM
    Quote from: metalos on May 16, 2012, 08:48:56 PM
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 16, 2012, 08:12:10 PM
    Quote from: metalos on May 16, 2012, 08:02:26 PM
    I watched the video again, and i noticed a thing.

    On the "Quiet Eye"'s interface we can see that:

    LIC Weyland Corp. - IDV User: P. Weyland

    So the Weyland Corp. was LICensed the software, and Peter Weyland is using that.

    No - that is just his number he is calling. He doesn't even have to be on the other line and nothing suggest the material was licensed. If anything - the program is most likely a spy tool - for why would Weyland need a 3rd party program to look at incoming messages? And if he did - why the hell would they call it Quiet Eye? It seriously sounds like a spy tool.

    You think that, i think this. There is a trademark sign, and trademark text next to the 'Quiet Eye' name. This is not number: LIC Weyland Corp. - IDV User: P. Weyland

    Yes I saw that. The LIC is the troubling thing. Does it mean licensed or something else? Most likely case is that it means licensed. I won't argue against that. However - the name is still problematic. Why quiet eye? If you want stare back at the video without anyone knowing you don't need the program. The program focuses on using facial characteristics to determine certain things about them. Why not True Eye, or Lens of Truth? Besides - if LIC does not mean licensed then the fact that it has Weyland on there could just mean that the account is Weylands, just like an e-mail account is yours, but if it is being tracked by an outside source, the name will still appear under your name, but within the program being used to get into your e-mail.

    Anyways - it is not clear. I am not going to say one way to say one way or the other. I understand why you want to draw a conclusion on the LIC and the IDV USER bit at the front. I agree that it is strongly indicative of Weyland using it at that end. Like I said though, the name doesn't fit, and if you hack a program - it still will carry over a lot of the original users data over to that program and the screen it is being operated from.

    Could it be that there will be a merger. Absolutely. Will it be that Yutani is being malicious and will try to take down Weyland by some devious means and force a merger? Or will it all be benign? Or is something much larger at play going on here. I am far from certain. Not going to read any more into this for now.

    Yeah, we will see it, hope they are explain that what we see on that video.
  15. Qwertify
    Quote from: metalos on May 16, 2012, 08:48:56 PM
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 16, 2012, 08:12:10 PM
    Quote from: metalos on May 16, 2012, 08:02:26 PM
    I watched the video again, and i noticed a thing.

    On the "Quiet Eye"'s interface we can see that:

    LIC Weyland Corp. - IDV User: P. Weyland

    So the Weyland Corp. was LICensed the software, and Peter Weyland is using that.

    No - that is just his number he is calling. He doesn't even have to be on the other line and nothing suggest the material was licensed. If anything - the program is most likely a spy tool - for why would Weyland need a 3rd party program to look at incoming messages? And if he did - why the hell would they call it Quiet Eye? It seriously sounds like a spy tool.

    You think that, i think this. There is a trademark sign, and trademark text next to the 'Quiet Eye' name. This is not number: LIC Weyland Corp. - IDV User: P. Weyland

    Yes I saw that. The LIC is the troubling thing. Does it mean licensed or something else? Most likely case is that it means licensed. I won't argue against that. However - the name is still problematic. Why quiet eye? If you want stare back at the video without anyone knowing you don't need the program. The program focuses on using facial characteristics to determine certain things about them. Why not True Eye, or Lens of Truth? Besides - if LIC does not mean licensed then the fact that it has Weyland on there could just mean that the account is Weylands, just like an e-mail account is yours, but if it is being tracked by an outside source, the name will still appear under your name, but within the program being used to get into your e-mail.

    Anyways - it is not clear. I am not going to say one way to say one way or the other. I understand why you want to draw a conclusion on the LIC and the IDV USER bit at the front. I agree that it is strongly indicative of Weyland using it at that end. Like I said though, the name doesn't fit, and if you hack a program - it still will carry over a lot of the original users data over to that program and the screen it is being operated from.

    Could it be that there will be a merger. Absolutely. Will it be that Yutani is being malicious and will try to take down Weyland by some devious means and force a merger? Or will it all be benign? Or is something much larger at play going on here. I am far from certain. Not going to read any more into this for now.
  16. metalos
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 16, 2012, 08:12:10 PM
    Quote from: metalos on May 16, 2012, 08:02:26 PM
    I watched the video again, and i noticed a thing.

    On the "Quiet Eye"'s interface we can see that:

    LIC Weyland Corp. - IDV User: P. Weyland

    So the Weyland Corp. was LICensed the software, and Peter Weyland is using that.

    No - that is just his number he is calling. He doesn't even have to be on the other line and nothing suggest the material was licensed. If anything - the program is most likely a spy tool - for why would Weyland need a 3rd party program to look at incoming messages? And if he did - why the hell would they call it Quiet Eye? It seriously sounds like a spy tool.

    You think that, i think this. There is a trademark sign, and trademark text next to the 'Quiet Eye' name. This is not number: LIC Weyland Corp. - IDV User: P. Weyland
  17. ryanjayhawk
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 16, 2012, 08:12:10 PM
    Quote from: metalos on May 16, 2012, 08:02:26 PM
    I watched the video again, and i noticed a thing.

    On the "Quiet Eye"'s interface we can see that:

    LIC Weyland Corp. - IDV User: P. Weyland

    So the Weyland Corp. was LICensed the software, and Peter Weyland is using that.

    No - that is just his number he is calling. He doesn't even have to be on the other line and nothing suggest the material was licensed. If anything - the program is most likely a spy tool - for why would Weyland need a 3rd party program to look at incoming messages? And if he did - why the hell would they call it Quiet Eye? It seriously sounds like a spy tool.

    The same reason Apple purchased SIRI, only if Yutani is large enough, purchasing them outright might be hard thus the merger that happens at some point in the future. 

    It may be called "Quiet Eye" because the program simply watches the person being interviewed to determine if they are lying... it doesn't interact.
  18. Mechafist
    Quote from: Cvalda on May 16, 2012, 08:24:30 PM
    Quote from: Mechafist on May 16, 2012, 08:21:45 PM
    Well, Benedict Wong will work in this movie.Maybe he is the Yutani spy  ::)
    Not likely. He dies crashing the ship into the Derelict, which doesn't seem like something a duplicitous spy would do.
    So i guess it was just a viral video with no connection with the movie  :P
    I really doubt Vickers is a spy but who knows uhn?...Maybe she turns to be.

    I guess we will need to wait to know more about it...
  19. Qwertify
    Quote from: metalos on May 16, 2012, 08:02:26 PM
    I watched the video again, and i noticed a thing.

    On the "Quiet Eye"'s interface we can see that:

    LIC Weyland Corp. - IDV User: P. Weyland

    So the Weyland Corp. was LICensed the software, and Peter Weyland is using that.

    No - that is just his number he is calling. He doesn't even have to be on the other line and nothing suggest the material was licensed. If anything - the program is most likely a spy tool - for why would Weyland need a 3rd party program to look at incoming messages? And if he did - why the hell would they call it Quiet Eye? It seriously sounds like a spy tool.
  20. metalos
    I watched the video again, and i noticed a thing.

    On the "Quiet Eye"'s interface we can see that:

    LIC Weyland Corp. - IDV User: P. Weyland

    So the Weyland Corp. was LICensed the software, and Peter Weyland is using that.
  21. ryanjayhawk
    Quote from: Qwertify on May 16, 2012, 04:09:37 PM
    The satellite connection says it is from China. Most likely, considering the name too, this is Yutani spying on all feeds sent to Weyland. They must be using this feed to stick a spy on board. It is not Shaw, but there is a clear reason why Weyland is only Weyland at this point.

    Perhaps Vickers is the child of both Weyland and Yutani?

    I'd imagine that a program like "Quiet Eye" isn't something you just download to your computer, in a similar way that I may have a website hosted in California even though I live in Kansas... perhaps the feed is sent to the "Quiet Eye" servers in China for the program to do it's thing?
  22. Qwertify
    Quote from: Eva on May 16, 2012, 04:28:44 PM
    I think the Yutani Corp part of this is pure fan-viral-stuff. There's way to much going on in Prometheus storywise as it is, for them to include a Weyland vs Yutani angle and having to spend screen time explaining to the audience what's what and who's who. We the fans know the basics of course, but a large chunk of the audience will have no clue who Yutani Corp is (or Weyland Corp for that matter). Just my $0.02, you know...

    The most interesting thing for me, is speculating whether the basic mission statement of Prometheus Project originated from Shaw or whether it originated from Weyland. Here it really sounds like Shaws thing with her trying to pursuade Weyland to fund her. If so, that could put an entirely different spin on what possible role Weyland will play in the film and why he's onboard the ship...

    I think everything viral will tie in nicely. The TED talk, David 8 commercial and now this. As for the Yutani thing - it is enough to say they are a rival corporation - taking all of a seconds time in a brief mention i.e. "We have to make sure we beat Yutani to the punch. They have been closing the gap on us in every other area of interest."

    The TED talk - the TE Lawrence reference and the 'like the change the world' parts I think will link closely to the story.
    David 8 - able to do things that others may find unethical or disturbing.
    Quiet Eye - rival Yutani will play some sort of sabotage to gain the upper hand and then swoop down on the planet later to claim success?
  23. escroto
    Now this is what I'm talking about. It's about time I can listen the kind of music that is supposed to be playing on anything related to alien, or well prometheus :laugh:

    Weyland himself granted her desire then. I don't know why I'm thinking more on Weland's devil face/plans  while watching Shaw's request for employment rather than thinking on Yutani spies and the inevitable connection to the Vickers bitch, bitch I still want to believe It is a droid and will try to do something to Shaw eventually
  24. Eva
    I think the Yutani Corp part of this is pure fan-viral-stuff. There's way to much going on in Prometheus storywise as it is, for them to include a Weyland vs Yutani angle and having to spend screen time explaining to the audience what's what and who's who. We the fans know the basics of course, but a large chunk of the audience will have no clue who Yutani Corp is (or Weyland Corp for that matter). Just my $0.02, you know...

    The most interesting thing for me, is speculating whether the basic mission statement of Prometheus Project originated from Shaw or whether it originated from Weyland. Here it really sounds like Shaws thing with her trying to pursuade Weyland to fund her. If so, that could put an entirely different spin on what possible role Weyland will play in the film and why he's onboard the ship...
  25. Qwertify
    The satellite connection says it is from China. Most likely, considering the name too, this is Yutani spying on all feeds sent to Weyland. They must be using this feed to stick a spy on board. It is not Shaw, but there is a clear reason why Weyland is only Weyland at this point.

    Perhaps Vickers is the child of both Weyland and Yutani?
  26. Cvalda
    Wow, Noomi is such a knockout. Very interesting looking vid. Now if only I didn't have to wait til tonight to hear the audio part and actually know what the hell is going on :'(
  27. wonkyfunk303
    it was posted on facebook in march on the yutani group page

    'We are excited to see the consolidation of Weyland Industries and hope to play a vital role in the success of Project Prometheus'

    on March 20th.......

    could it be this yutani group page wasnt a fake page set up against the weyland pages...??

    just a thought. (i believed it was just set up by a fan)
  28. Winkie Bear
    Quote from: VickersAsh on May 16, 2012, 02:58:16 PM
    Quote from: ucdom on May 16, 2012, 02:53:29 PM
    Couple of interesting points

    1) Call location Hun Gla G12 55 deg 52' N 4 deg 17' W

    This is the Hunterian Museum in Glasgow - make of that what you will

    http://www.gla.ac.uk/hunterian/about/


    they found the cave paintings in Scotland, right? :)

    Indeedy, the Isle of Skye is about 100 miles north north west from Glasgow - I'm guessing she's based in Glasgow University.  I bet the Hunterian Museum website gets a few hits today...  :)
  29. RagingDragon
    Mmm.. my daily dose of sweet, sweet nectar.

    The campaign for this movie makes me want to stand up and clap.

    The only questions I have revolve around how to get Ridley to adopt me as his lost, genius, bastard son. 
  30. VickersAsh
    Quiet eye is the name of 'Yutani Photo-Polygraph Technologies version 4 M-79'

    in the left video there's different variations to Shaw's name, idk why, but one of them is Lizbet  :laugh:

    Quote from: ucdom on May 16, 2012, 02:53:29 PM
    Couple of interesting points

    1) Call location Hun Gla G12 55 deg 52' N 4 deg 17' W

    This is the Hunterian Museum in Glasgow - make of that what you will

    http://www.gla.ac.uk/hunterian/about/


    they found the cave paintings in Scotland, right? :)
  31. KirklandSignature
    Awesome, so Yutani appears to be a malevolent force intent on acquiring Weyland Company, I think this movie will show how Yutani buys out Weyland, paving the way for Weyland-Yutani. Makes me think if one of the crew is a double agent or spy.


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