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Randy Pitchford Talks Aliens: Colonial Marines

Kotaku has recently interviewed Gearbox CEO about the upcoming Aliens: Colonial Marines videogame. This time Randy Pitchford talks about Gearbox’s approach to the story and how the studio plans to explain the inconsistencies between Aliens and Alien 3. Be aware of spoilers.

“One of the things we’re really proud about is that there were some things that fans like us always believed were inconsistencies between Alien3 and Aliens,” Pitchford said, “But as we dig into it, as we work with filmmakers and kind of understand it all and think about it from a logic problem point of view, there is actually a truth there that makes more sense. When we are able to use it to stitch it together, Alien3 is actually a better movie.”

You can read the full article on Kotaku.



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  1. chupacabras acheronsis
    at this point RD, I'm not seeing those factors as signs of true dedication anymore, but as fan-servicing gimmicks. i feel like we haven't been shown a real deal of what the actual game is about(as you said, the gameplay), and unlike Prometheus, it's very bad when a game doesn't want to show you something of such importance.

    my enthusiasm got slashed in half when i learned that this was going to be a co-op game as it means i will never get to play the game to it's full extent; first, i do not have the hardware or connection to make a co-op game work flawlessly, second, i do not have the time to organize a game, i am available at very odd hours and days; third, i absolutely suck at pronouncing and i am very hard to understand over the mike in Spanish, let alone in English, and i don't know anyone who will buy and play this game that lives even in the same continent; and fourth, i am very anti social and detest the way some people play and prefer doing things my way, relaxed, without having to work with a team when I'm trying to enjoy the campaign.

    i have competitive multiplayer for that, i want the campaign to be a thing for myself. and i know i could do just that, but then the rest of the marines become worthless NPCs i can't make use of because there seems to be no order system whatsoever, nor any tactical elements, which was, incidentally, the only reason this game originally caught my attention some years ago. oh bother.

    so now i have a game that i will never get to play like it was meant to; that fail(ed) to expand the universe in a meaningful way and all it does is awkwardly stumble around the setting in an irrelevant mix of fanservice and unimaginative marketing decisions; that reeks of consoleitis, from the railed and minuscule sections of the campaign we saw, to the slow and synthetic movement and ludicrous contextual actions and QTEs, to the presence of hit boxes and fixed spawn points of the aliens, to the goddamn field of view...

    and that i can't even get in time?

  2. Xenomrph
    The thing I really took away from the latest trailer is that the game looks like 'Aliens' if 'Aliens' were made today with an infinite budget. It's got a huge cast (reads: huge body-count), an insane amount of apparent "set-piece" battles that would have been largely impractical or too expensive to put in 'Aliens'.

    The linchpin in this comparison is James Cameron's quality as a filmmaker/storyteller. He actually got audiences to give a shit about the characters and build tension and mood. We'll see how Gearbox fares in that department.
  3. RagingDragon
    To take this another direction, I have to express my feelings.

    This game, especially in light of the most recent delay, could be one of the biggest heartbreakers in fan history.

    I mean, it's obvious that if the game fails, it won't be due to lack of effort.  With all of the shiz that GBX has done so far, and their apparent enthusiasm for the game, I think they've already proved that they're going to give this the old college try.  I mean Syd Mead, talking to Ridley about Prometheus, the film grains, it's just an above-and-beyond effort for a game based on a 26 year old film...

    If it bombs, it will be because of improper focus.  Too much emphasis on recreating every single thing in Aliens, including the colony (lololo), and having fancy additions like the dynamic lighting system and not enough effort put towards the meat of the game, which is gameplay, a solid, replayable campaign, and tight, well-done multiplayer.

    I'm just worried that all of their enthusiasm will carry them off in the wrong direction.

    Hopefully this delay is in part due to all of this effort going into the graphics and atmosphere, so that they have enough time to devote to critical game elements and making sure they get the basics right.
  4. SM
    The biggest problem in the movie was the egg's placement - how did it get affixed to the underside of a table or something? It would have been a non-issue if the movie had the egg attached to the landing strut of the dropship or something (the Alien3 bluray does this, incidentally).

    Do you mean to say that there is an entirely different shot of the egg on-board the Sulaco for the blu-ray edition of Alien3???

    I don't own a blu-ray player so this would be news to me.  Do you have a pic of this shot?

    No.  It's just the menu for the disk.  There's a schematic of the dropship and it pops up with "foreign material" or something and it focuses on the rear landing gear well as the location of the egg.

    As for retunring to Fiorina - it's a more logical place to return than a smoking crater; oops I mean magically restored colony.
  5. Predaker
    But that's not what they're doing at all, especially since they didn't say Alien3 sucks. ???

    As mentioned, they pointed out significant flaws - the mystery egg out of nowhere is a flaw, and it's one that has bothered both fans and casual audiences for literally two decades now. Addressing it in some fashion isn't a bad thing. It's not like they're going to retcon out Hicks' death and have him blasting away Aliens or something.

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    Stuff like that alienate them from a large portion of the Alien fan-base
    Considering the current results of the "ACM & canon" thread poll, it looks like more people support them than don't. It didn't matter what they did, something would alienate some of the fan-base. That's the nature of fandom, it's completely unavoidable. 'Aliens' alienated some of the fandom of 'Alien' (you're an example, too). 'Alien3' alienated some of the fandom of 'Aliens'. Colonial Marines is bound to not satisfy everyone, but it's not like they're retconning Alien3 out of existence. They're fixing an actual problem with the movie.

    I know that I sound pretty melodramatic at times. What I was trying to say here was that when you are a game developer and you're dealing with a franchise with a very diverse fan base - diverse in the sense when it comes to what the fans like about the movie(s) - you better behave. There is no need to belittle, patronize or talk shit about Alien 3 or A:R. That's just lame.
    What about the AvP movies? Is shit-talking those okay? Because it happens nearly non-stop on these forums. :P Just sayin'.

    And like I said, he wasn't belittling 'Alien3', he was talking about a legitimate problem that most people have with Alien3, even fans of the movie.

    I admit that I haven't been that clear about who exactly it is that I'm talking about here. Sorry about that!
    I'm referring to all the A:CM related videos and articles I've seen and read so far, including the stuff said by Pitchford.

    If they made an AVP game I would find it very odd if they started bashing AvP:R. Of course I would've thought it was amusing since I don't like AvP:R, but I would still think it was very unprofessional of them to bash one of the installments from the franchise they're dealing with.
    Gearbox did not bash any of the movies. Some of the people interviewing them did, but not gearbox. They hyped up the game, and that is what the interviews are for. The interviews were not about their personal opinions, it was all hype for the upcoming game.
  6. SpreadEagleBeagle
    But that's not what they're doing at all, especially since they didn't say Alien3 sucks. ???

    As mentioned, they pointed out significant flaws - the mystery egg out of nowhere is a flaw, and it's one that has bothered both fans and casual audiences for literally two decades now. Addressing it in some fashion isn't a bad thing. It's not like they're going to retcon out Hicks' death and have him blasting away Aliens or something.

    Quote
    Stuff like that alienate them from a large portion of the Alien fan-base
    Considering the current results of the "ACM & canon" thread poll, it looks like more people support them than don't. It didn't matter what they did, something would alienate some of the fan-base. That's the nature of fandom, it's completely unavoidable. 'Aliens' alienated some of the fandom of 'Alien' (you're an example, too). 'Alien3' alienated some of the fandom of 'Aliens'. Colonial Marines is bound to not satisfy everyone, but it's not like they're retconning Alien3 out of existence. They're fixing an actual problem with the movie.

    I know that I sound pretty melodramatic at times. What I was trying to say here was that when you are a game developer and you're dealing with a franchise with a very diverse fan base - diverse in the sense when it comes to what the fans like about the movie(s) - you better behave. There is no need to belittle, patronize or talk shit about Alien 3 or A:R. That's just lame.
    What about the AvP movies? Is shit-talking those okay? Because it happens nearly non-stop on these forums. :P Just sayin'.

    And like I said, he wasn't belittling 'Alien3', he was talking about a legitimate problem that most people have with Alien3, even fans of the movie.

    I admit that I haven't been that clear about who exactly it is that I'm talking about here. Sorry about that!
    I'm referring to all the A:CM related videos and articles I've seen and read so far, including the stuff said by Pitchford.

    If they made an AVP game I would find it very odd if they started bashing AvP:R. Of course I would've thought it was amusing since I don't like AvP:R, but I would still think it was very unprofessional of them to bash one of the installments from the franchise they're dealing with.
  7. Xenomrph
    But that's not what they're doing at all, especially since they didn't say Alien3 sucks. ???

    As mentioned, they pointed out significant flaws - the mystery egg out of nowhere is a flaw, and it's one that has bothered both fans and casual audiences for literally two decades now. Addressing it in some fashion isn't a bad thing. It's not like they're going to retcon out Hicks' death and have him blasting away Aliens or something.

    Quote
    Stuff like that alienate them from a large portion of the Alien fan-base
    Considering the current results of the "ACM & canon" thread poll, it looks like more people support them than don't. It didn't matter what they did, something would alienate some of the fan-base. That's the nature of fandom, it's completely unavoidable. 'Aliens' alienated some of the fandom of 'Alien' (you're an example, too). 'Alien3' alienated some of the fandom of 'Aliens'. Colonial Marines is bound to not satisfy everyone, but it's not like they're retconning Alien3 out of existence. They're fixing an actual problem with the movie.

    I know that I sound pretty melodramatic at times. What I was trying to say here was that when you are a game developer and you're dealing with a franchise with a very diverse fan base - diverse in the sense when it comes to what the fans like about the movie(s) - you better behave. There is no need to belittle, patronize or talk shit about Alien 3 or A:R. That's just lame.
    What about the AvP movies? Is shit-talking those okay? Because it happens nearly non-stop on these forums. :P Just sayin'.

    And like I said, he wasn't belittling 'Alien3', he was talking about a legitimate problem that most people have with Alien3, even fans of the movie.
  8. Predaker
    But that's not what they're doing at all, especially since they didn't say Alien3 sucks. ???

    As mentioned, they pointed out significant flaws - the mystery egg out of nowhere is a flaw, and it's one that has bothered both fans and casual audiences for literally two decades now. Addressing it in some fashion isn't a bad thing. It's not like they're going to retcon out Hicks' death and have him blasting away Aliens or something.

    Quote
    Stuff like that alienate them from a large portion of the Alien fan-base
    Considering the current results of the "ACM & canon" thread poll, it looks like more people support them than don't. It didn't matter what they did, something would alienate some of the fan-base. That's the nature of fandom, it's completely unavoidable. 'Aliens' alienated some of the fandom of 'Alien' (you're an example, too). 'Alien3' alienated some of the fandom of 'Aliens'. Colonial Marines is bound to not satisfy everyone, but it's not like they're retconning Alien3 out of existence. They're fixing an actual problem with the movie.

    I know that I sound pretty melodramatic at times. What I was trying to say here was that when you are a game developer and you're dealing with a franchise with a very diverse fan base - diverse in the sense when it comes to what the fans like about the movie(s) - you better behave. There is no need to belittle, patronize or talk shit about Alien 3 or A:R. That's just lame.
    The devs and/or Randy Pitchford never did any of that, though. Some of the people conducting the interviews did.
  9. Ash 937
    The biggest problem in the movie was the egg's placement - how did it get affixed to the underside of a table or something? It would have been a non-issue if the movie had the egg attached to the landing strut of the dropship or something (the Alien3 bluray does this, incidentally).

    Do you mean to say that there is an entirely different shot of the egg on-board the Sulaco for the blu-ray edition of Alien3???

    I don't own a blu-ray player so this would be news to me.  Do you have a pic of this shot?
  10. SpreadEagleBeagle
    But that's not what they're doing at all, especially since they didn't say Alien3 sucks. ???

    As mentioned, they pointed out significant flaws - the mystery egg out of nowhere is a flaw, and it's one that has bothered both fans and casual audiences for literally two decades now. Addressing it in some fashion isn't a bad thing. It's not like they're going to retcon out Hicks' death and have him blasting away Aliens or something.

    Quote
    Stuff like that alienate them from a large portion of the Alien fan-base
    Considering the current results of the "ACM & canon" thread poll, it looks like more people support them than don't. It didn't matter what they did, something would alienate some of the fan-base. That's the nature of fandom, it's completely unavoidable. 'Aliens' alienated some of the fandom of 'Alien' (you're an example, too). 'Alien3' alienated some of the fandom of 'Aliens'. Colonial Marines is bound to not satisfy everyone, but it's not like they're retconning Alien3 out of existence. They're fixing an actual problem with the movie.

    I know that I sound pretty melodramatic at times. What I was trying to say here was that when you are a game developer and you're dealing with a franchise with a very diverse fan base - diverse in the sense when it comes to what the fans like about the movie(s) - you better behave. There is no need to belittle, patronize or talk shit about Alien 3 or A:R. That's just lame.
  11. Xenomrph
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    Yes, those who wonder about egg mysteries in alien3 and elusive facehuggers aboard sulaco without even thinking there was a queen in aliens there ROFL.
    That's one of the better explanations, but it's far from airtight. The biggest problem in the movie was the egg's placement - how did it get affixed to the underside of a table or something? It would have been a non-issue if the movie had the egg attached to the landing strut of the dropship or something (the Alien3 bluray does this, incidentally).
    The official FOX line when 'Alien3' came out was literally "the audience isn't supposed to ask about the egg and where it came from". I'm not making that up.
  12. escroto
    Oh I know why, they want to portray themselves as fellow bros and Aliens fans hoping that we will identify and like them enough to buy five copies each when the game comes out... "Huh huh, Alien 3 suxors, worst movie evurrh *nudge nudge*... Gimme five bra'!"
    that without even mention what the problems he's are talking about with alien3 are. The two eggs mystery? ROFLMAO

    Pitchford has always had pros and cons. His pros have always been how excited, to the point he behaves like a kid when promoting his stuff at GB becomes. I guess there can be opinions on about this, but to me that has always been a good sign coming from a human being whoever he/she is. That simply proves he is at least exicted about what he's doing wheter the game ends up being another steaming pile of horse dung like avp2010 or not.

    The con obviously is he talk too much, and ends up screwing things up. Yes, I'm talking about a big mouth. He clearly said that stupid thing in a clear call for arms of the "Aliens" radical fanboy base. Yes, those who wonder about egg mysteries in alien3 and elusive facehuggers aboard sulaco without even thinking there was a queen in aliens there ROFL.

    I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt till I got my hands on this product, for now, just shut up Randy when talking about things you don't even understand, and focus on speaking about ACM only ;)
  13. Xenomrph
    But that's not what they're doing at all, especially since they didn't say Alien3 sucks. ???

    As mentioned, they pointed out significant flaws - the mystery egg out of nowhere is a flaw, and it's one that has bothered both fans and casual audiences for literally two decades now. Addressing it in some fashion isn't a bad thing. It's not like they're going to retcon out Hicks' death and have him blasting away Aliens or something.

    Quote
    Stuff like that alienate them from a large portion of the Alien fan-base
    Considering the current results of the "ACM & canon" thread poll, it looks like more people support them than don't. It didn't matter what they did, something would alienate some of the fan-base. That's the nature of fandom, it's completely unavoidable. 'Aliens' alienated some of the fandom of 'Alien' (you're an example, too). 'Alien3' alienated some of the fandom of 'Aliens'. Colonial Marines is bound to not satisfy everyone, but it's not like they're retconning Alien3 out of existence. They're fixing an actual problem with the movie.
  14. SpreadEagleBeagle
    They didn't resent the whole movie, they mentioned legitimate problems with the opening to the movie. Between the facehugger(s) out of nowhere and killing off Hicks and Newt in the first 3 minutes, the movie didn't do a whole lot to endear itself to audiences, especially those who'd enjoyed 'Aliens'.

    'Alien3' is my favorite Alien movie and even I am able to recognize that it's got significant problems.

    I know, the movie got problems and it is indeed flawed, which is one of the things that makes it great, which is something that Pitchford & Co don't seem to grasp as they ridiculously claim their 'canon' video game will fix those flaws and make a 'better' movie (!). They have no clue what they're talking about. Stuff like that alienate them from a large portion of the Alien fan-base and don't make you trust them really as they seem no better than IMDB Aliens fanboys.

    Why can't they just act a little professional and keep it to themselves?

    Oh I know why, they want to portray themselves as fellow bros and Aliens fans hoping that we will identify and like them enough to buy five copies each when the game comes out... "Huh huh, Alien 3 suxors, worst movie evurrh *nudge nudge*... Gimme five bra'!"
  15. Predaker
    Considering their open resent towards Alien 3 I doubt they will show any love for Fury 161 like that.
    They didn't resent the whole movie, they mentioned legitimate problems with the opening to the movie. Between the facehugger(s) out of nowhere and killing off Hicks and Newt in the first 3 minutes, the movie didn't do a whole lot to endear itself to audiences, especially those who'd enjoyed 'Aliens'.

    'Alien3' is my favorite Alien movie and even I am able to recognize that it's got significant problems.
    Really, it only has a few problems when viewed as a sequel to ALIENS. As a stand alone movie, I think Alien3 was superb.

    When you connect it to ALIENS, that's where things get touchy. Newt and Hicks die, for example. Also the mystery of the egg on the Sulaco. No explanation was given, and that type of mystery did not add to the alien universe like the space jockey did. The egg mystery did more harm than good by weakening the continuity of the franchise.

    Alien3 might not have given everyone what they wanted (more colonial marines), but it was still an awesome movie. Alien:Res was a B rated movie though, and the franchise deserved better than that.
  16. Xenomrph
    Considering their open resent towards Alien 3 I doubt they will show any love for Fury 161 like that.
    They didn't resent the whole movie, they mentioned legitimate problems with the opening to the movie. Between the facehugger(s) out of nowhere and killing off Hicks and Newt in the first 3 minutes, the movie didn't do a whole lot to endear itself to audiences, especially those who'd enjoyed 'Aliens'.

    'Alien3' is my favorite Alien movie and even I am able to recognize that it's got significant problems.
  17. Predaker
    Considering their open resent towards Alien 3 I doubt they will show any love for Fury 161 like that.
    I don't think they resent alien3 so much as there is nothing really there for them to adapt into the game campaign. The main influence comes from ALIENS and their main focus appears to be the colonial marines above all else.

    It seemed to me that it was the various people conducting these interviews that mention alien3, which illicited forced smiles from Randy or one of the dev team. Alien3 can be a touchy subject for many fans, as I am sure they are aware. It was probably not the wisest choice of words for him to say they will make alien3 better, but honestly I don't think he meant any harm by it. He was just trying to pump up the game because parts of it intend to solidfy the continuity between ALIENS and Alien3. They didn't openly bash the movie, they are just trying to portray the game in a good light. Poor choice of words, perhaps, but not hating on Alien3. ;)

    Edit: When Angry Joe started bashing on Alien3, the dev in that interview probably couldn't do much more than bite his tongue, smile and nod. It wouldn't look good for them to be argumentative about something petty during any interview involving the game, regardless of who is right or wrong.
  18. escroto
    Maybe they will use it as a multiplayer map, if Fury 161 is not in the campaign. Like Barringer mentioned. ;)

    And that's really all I am hoping for.  Plus, if GBX really did consult with Fincher on this then they should at least make a mulitplayer map out of the insight they acquired. 

    As others pointed out, it isn't everyday that Fincher comes out to discuss Alien3.  Just like how they are using Syd Mead's blueprints for the Sulaco to reconstruct parts of the ship that were never filmed, I think that GBX should take the same approach with Fury 161.
    ya same here, hoping for alien MP too. All I'd like to ask GB If I had the chance is to not make It as bright as It was in avp2. There was an amazing custom alien3 map for avp2 featured in the ump2 also. Can't remember the name exactly but It was similar to the original but with extra rooms, friggin' dark, and quite a big lag in some certain locations too because of the size.

    That was one of the things that bugged me the most about avp2. Too much light man, and I hope GB goes something similar to doom3, critical for the atmosphere, and more If those space tiny toons fail that much at being scary, among other things because of the size, and also their f**king new sounds. Sometimes sound like frogs when dying man. They suck and fail big time both
  19. Ash 937
    Maybe they will use it as a multiplayer map, if Fury 161 is not in the campaign. Like Barringer mentioned. ;)

    And that's really all I am hoping for.  Plus, if GBX really did consult with Fincher on this then they should at least make a mulitplayer map out of the insight they acquired. 

    As others pointed out, it isn't everyday that Fincher comes out to discuss Alien3.  Just like how they are using Syd Mead's blueprints for the Sulaco to reconstruct parts of the ship that were never filmed, I think that GBX should take the same approach with Fury 161.
  20. Ash 937
    I can't think of any reason why the storyline should take us to Fury 161.  But then again, if someone announced that any new Aliens game was being released tomorrow, I wouldn't expect it to logically take us back to LV-426 again either.  But that's what we are getting...so who knows if Fury will be there or not.
  21. SM
    And my point is Fincher isn't giving away secrets about the film in that regard.  Since they aren't secrets to begin with.

    If he gave them a map or something (like the one briefly gilmpsed in the film) and they used that, then THAT would be sweet.
  22. RoyaleDuke
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    I mean they said that after they talked with Fincher they learned a crapload about Alien 3 and what could've been, and how much larger the complex actually is.


    That's hardly a secret.  We see that big Blade Runner landscape exterior and Aaron says the place is "ten miles square" (ie. covers 100 square miles).

    My point, and to a more important extent Gearbox's point was that we would get to see those familiar areas from the film but so much more than that.
  23. SM
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    I mean they said that after they talked with Fincher they learned a crapload about Alien 3 and what could've been, and how much larger the complex actually is.


    That's hardly a secret.  We see that big Blade Runner landscape exterior and Aaron says the place is "ten miles square" (ie. covers 100 square miles).
  24. Chris!(($$))!
    Btw guys I was thinking about something. Maybe they altered the Aliens ending a bit too. Lets say the opening of ACM is how the dropship fly away but the explosion is not that bigger or something like that (its up to them) and then we see "XX weeks later" screen and here we go the badasses arrive!

    This gave me an idea for an opening sequence for A:CM.

    The Drop Ship flies away and out of view, you see the explosion, the intro music slowly creeps in and quietly, then the explosion fades slowly revealing the remains of the colony and AP. While that is happening the title screen fades into view in the very ALIEN and ALIENSish fashion ending with the I in ALIENS lighting up the entire screen.
  25. RoyaleDuke
    That's pretty awesome that Fincher actually helped them out, though. :)

    Yeah, it was nifty reading about that they even talked to JC briefly but it seems they mostly went with Ridley for consultation.

    I mean they said that after they talked with Fincher they learned a crapload about Alien 3 and what could've been, and how much larger the complex actually is.

    They said something to the effect that was the last time Fincher seemed to be open to talking about it, so they got as much as they could but seeing as how that level/chapter/act seems to be cut is a real spit in the face to Fincher. It almost seemed like he could've gotten more of his vision to the audiences through this game but alas much like Alien 3's production it seems that it just didn't pan out.
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    the planned Fury 161 level(which they consulted with Fincher about btw, It's right there in the mag)
    Wait seriously? And he didn't tell them to go f**k themselves? I mean I thought it was pretty well-known that Fincher hates talking about Alien3.

    Out of all the directors involved in constructing the Alien universe, Fincher had the least creative control over adding anything new to it.  It would be somewhat humorous to find out that while this is one of the few times he opened up to give some insight about what he thought that world should look like that it gets completely scrapped from the final product.  I think it would be reason enough for him continue telling people to go f**ck themsevles in the future.   :-\

    Yeah I feel pretty much the same way, as much as I don't like Alien 3 in any of its incarnations he got the short end of the stick to say the least, shafted by two industries on the same subject matter...TWICE. ouch Fincher.

    EDIT: I might see about doing some scans and digging out the issue again. The original article is no longer around, and I feel some people need a refresher.
  26. WinterActual
    Btw guys I was thinking about something. Maybe they altered the Aliens ending a bit too. Lets say the opening of ACM is how the dropship fly away but the explosion is not that bigger or something like that (its up to them) and then we see "XX weeks later" screen and here we go the badasses arrive!
  27. Ash 937
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    the planned Fury 161 level(which they consulted with Fincher about btw, It's right there in the mag)
    Wait seriously? And he didn't tell them to go f**k themselves? I mean I thought it was pretty well-known that Fincher hates talking about Alien3.

    Out of all the directors involved in constructing the Alien universe, Fincher had the least creative control over adding anything new to it.  It would be somewhat humorous to find out that while this is one of the few times he opened up to give some insight about what he thought that world should look like that it gets completely scrapped from the final product.  I think it would be reason enough for him continue telling people to go f**ck themsevles in the future.   :-\
  28. RoyaleDuke
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    the planned Fury 161 level(which they consulted with Fincher about btw, It's right there in the mag)
    Wait seriously? And he didn't tell them to go f**k themselves? I mean I thought it was pretty well-known that Fincher hates talking about Alien3.

    It's right here in the mag, and yeah he just glossed over some design stuff nothing too serious. I'm talking like concept art and unused background Mattes and stuff, they just wanted to know a bit more about Fury 161 and the Prison Colony there.
  29. Xenomrph
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    the planned Fury 161 level(which they consulted with Fincher about btw, It's right there in the mag)
    Wait seriously? And he didn't tell them to go f**k themselves? I mean I thought it was pretty well-known that Fincher hates talking about Alien3.
  30. RoyaleDuke
    I am curious to know why exactly they decided to resurrect Hadley's Hope and the AP. They could have done parts of the game on LV-426 without going back to the exact same place. I can accept the derelict survivng, but why bother trying to explain HH and the AP? Pure fan service? Did FOX make the final decision on this or what?

    I still have the original Gameinformer Announcement mag, and it seems they've always intended on going the current direction with the "resurrecting" Hadley's Hope, having the Sulaco, Derelict, etc. I think the only possible thing that is missing is the planned Fury 161 level(which they consulted with Fincher about btw, It's right there in the mag) but who knows maybe they are hiding that from us. I won't miss it.

    I am glad that the Derelict made it in, the way they made it sound in the mag made it seem like it was going to be a big part of the endgame. And I am happy that a lot of what I've seen of the game seems to match up with what they said they were making minus some discrepancies that I can't really be too upset about as at the very least, it seems like this is closer to a true CM experience.
  31. SM
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    Its back to Alien-status, that is to say, the derelict is there with no atmosphere.  Thats the whole f**king reason Dallas' crew were wearing space-suits.


    The AP station blowing up isn't instantly going to undo 20 years worth of terraforming.

    Oh.  I don't have your experience in terraforming, silly me.

    That's okay.  You're not the first nor will you be the last to say something silly.
  32. Xenomrph
    I guess I'm not sure how to respond to it because ultimately it's just so unreasonable. Like, there's no way for me to be reasonable or constructive with you about it if that's seriously the approach you're taking to the topic and that's what you really believe.

    'Aliens' is still a beloved classic, and the "lore" hasn't done anything to damage or negate it. It killed off some characters, but that doesn't make 'Aliens' itself any less of a triumph. Keeping Hadley's Hope around for another round of Alien madness isn't a bad thing either, especially if Gearbox is looking to pay tribute to 'Aliens' and give players the opportunity to revisit locations from the movie and relive some of the iconic moments.

    It's like the rides at Universal Studios, they pay homage to the movies and let people "live" them.
  33. Ash 937
    James Cameron gets the shaft every time.  First, Fox took a massive dump on his characters with the storyline for Alien3.  Then, they wouldn't let him return to the series because they wanted to release AvP instead of a film that followed Alien: Resurrection.  Now the success of everything his characters accomplished in Aliens is getting dumped on with A:CM. 

    The oddest thing about all of this is that his film is a benchmark for the series and for science fiction in general yet everything that he established in Aliens has slowly been dismantled by poorly-imagined sequels over the last 25 years and (now) a poorly-imagined video game.
    This is the silliest, spergiest post I've seen in this thread so far.

    You need to approach the way you begin posts in way that are a bit more constructive imo.  It's fine if you express a counter point with evidence as a rebuttal to what others say but its not cool to be offensive about it.  I often like the points you make here and respect your posts because they are often so well thought out.  But when you begin your responses like this, its just not in good form.  You made me cry a little, actually.   :'(
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