Cameron on Alien Covenant

[whiterabbit]

I don't know what exactly the debate is here but I pick Alien: Covenant over Titanic and Avatar any day. Although Cameron did get them old ladies wet with Titanic and don't they deserve movies too?

[Alionic]

So, you guys think that Covenant is a better film than Titanic or Avatar?

Absolutely. Titanic was a clichéd love story, and Avatar plagiarized Dances With Wolves/Pocahontas/etc.

In fact, I prefer the Alien 3 Assembly Cut before either of those films.

[Jonesy1974]

Terminator 2 was the last Cameron film I liked. True Lies has some great action sequences but I found the racial stereotypes and misogyny a little distasteful.

Cameron always told very simple, basic stories with very stereotypical characters but he was fantastic at creating tension and suspense. He was also brilliant and innovative with action scenes. His early films all move at good pace, real thrill rides.

In latter years his films have got longer and longer with less and less action. For me the characters and story in Avatar and Titanic just aren't interesting enough to keep me invested. Both films just bore me to tears. I know i'm in the minority and both are hugely popular but I'll never be able to understand why.

[whiterabbit]

True Lies is a great film but I really wish Cameron cut out the interrogation of Harry's wife. That entire scene was just so damn abusive. Calling it cruel would be a gross understatement.

[Jonesy1974]

True Lies is a great film but I really wish Cameron cut out the interrogation of Harry's wife. That entire scene was just so damn abusive. Calling it cruel would be a gross understatement.

That scene is so awful. Very uncomfortable to watch on just about every level.

[Highland]

True Lies is a great film but I really wish Cameron cut out the interrogation of Harry's wife. That entire scene was just so damn abusive. Calling it cruel would be a gross understatement.

Yeah but it's Harry that's interrogating her. Personally I didn't see it as abusive, I was kinda thinking I'd grill my wife the same lol. Plus it was a comedy too.

[whiterabbit]

True Lies is a great film but I really wish Cameron cut out the interrogation of Harry's wife. That entire scene was just so damn abusive. Calling it cruel would be a gross understatement.

Yeah but it's Harry that's interrogating her. Personally I didn't see it as abusive, I was kinda thinking I'd grill my wife the same lol. Plus it was a comedy too.

In the context of the scene I think they are trying to determine whether or not Helen is a spy but it's clear that Harry was more interested in if she was cheating on him. Yea true, their relationship is more or less a convenience for him but good god that was a mean spirited thing to do for information he, as a spy, should have already known.

[Highland]

True Lies is a great film but I really wish Cameron cut out the interrogation of Harry's wife. That entire scene was just so damn abusive. Calling it cruel would be a gross understatement.

Yeah but it's Harry that's interrogating her. Personally I didn't see it as abusive, I was kinda thinking I'd grill my wife the same lol. Plus it was a comedy too.

In the context of the scene I think they are trying to determine whether or not Helen is a spy but it's clear that Harry was more interested in if she was cheating on him. Yea true, their relationship is more or less a convenience for him but good god that was a mean spirited thing to do for information he, as a spy, should have already known.

They know Helen isn't a spy, that's the point lol

The whole point is purely to find out if Helens been screwing Paxton. There's no other reason. Harry is just abusing his position.

[Alionic]

True Lies is a great film but I really wish Cameron cut out the interrogation of Harry's wife. That entire scene was just so damn abusive. Calling it cruel would be a gross understatement.

That was best scene in the film, actually. Jamie Lee Curtis acting like a stripper was one of the better part of the 90s.

[JokersWarPig]

I'm gonna disagree, I enjoy Avatar a whole lot more than covenant.

[whiterabbit]

True Lies is a great film but I really wish Cameron cut out the interrogation of Harry's wife. That entire scene was just so damn abusive. Calling it cruel would be a gross understatement.

Yeah but it's Harry that's interrogating her. Personally I didn't see it as abusive, I was kinda thinking I'd grill my wife the same lol. Plus it was a comedy too.

In the context of the scene I think they are trying to determine whether or not Helen is a spy but it's clear that Harry was more interested in if she was cheating on him. Yea true, their relationship is more or less a convenience for him but good god that was a mean spirited thing to do for information he, as a spy, should have already known.

They know Helen isn't a spy, that's the point lol

The whole point is purely to find out if Helens been screwing Paxton. There's no other reason. Harry is just abusing his position.

That makes it even worse.

True Lies is a great film but I really wish Cameron cut out the interrogation of Harry's wife. That entire scene was just so damn abusive. Calling it cruel would be a gross understatement.

That was best scene in the film, actually. Jamie Lee Curtis acting like a stripper was one of the better part of the 90s.

Talking about the interrogation itself.

[PierreVW]

I prefer GLADIATOR, BLACK HAWK DOWN, THELMA & LOUISE and THE MARTIAN over all James Cameron movies.

[Highland]

Gladiator is a classic, I only watched the others once though.

[whiterabbit]

I prefer GLADIATOR, BLACK HAWK DOWN, THELMA & LOUISE and THE MARTIAN over all James Cameron movies.

I hate to say it but Terminator 1 and 2 are better than all of those.

[PierreVW]

I prefer GLADIATOR, BLACK HAWK DOWN, THELMA & LOUISE and THE MARTIAN over all James Cameron movies.

I hate to say it but Terminator 1 and 2 are better than all of those.

I disagree. But I was talking since 1991.

I love Terminator 1 but that is too far. 33 years ago. 1984.