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Author Topic: Will we get an extended cut on Blu Ray?  (Read 9977 times)

RabidNinja
May 29, 2017, 06:08:44 PM
Reply #75 on: May 29, 2017, 06:08:44 PM
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- Shorten it down to 2 hours for cinematic release.
- Release directors cut 6 months later to increase sales.


0321recon
May 29, 2017, 06:37:20 PM
Reply #76 on: May 29, 2017, 06:37:20 PM
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- Shorten it down to 2 hours for cinematic release.
- Release directors cut 6 months later to increase sales.

If Fox wants to recoup's its money, they better force Riddles to piece the film back to its original state.

« Last Edit: May 29, 2017, 08:24:25 PM by 0321recon »

BonesawT101
May 29, 2017, 06:52:34 PM
Reply #77 on: May 29, 2017, 06:52:34 PM
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I hope you're right...I really do


Whiskeybrewer
May 30, 2017, 11:01:50 AM
Reply #78 on: May 30, 2017, 11:01:50 AM
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We definitely need extended Cuts of Prometheus and Covenant, just to get the pacing right and make the story just that bit clearer.

Im all for ambiguity in some places, but not when its for the sake of it


SyntaX
May 30, 2017, 12:18:44 PM
Reply #79 on: May 30, 2017, 12:18:44 PM
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We definitely need extended Cuts of Prometheus and Covenant, just to get the pacing right and make the story just that bit clearer.

Im all for ambiguity in some places, but not when its for the sake of it

The problem with an Extended Cut is that it doesn't reach the same audience as a cinema does. Extended Cut's sometimes add more scenes that improve (or not) a certain aspect in the movie.

I remember Prometheus had an alternate opening. But I haven't seen any footage of that...
Alien Covenant could use some additions here and there and I'm pretty damn sure alot has been cut.

We'll see.

A sequel is 100% garantueed at this point. Covenant has been made on a relatively low-budget ...


Protozoid
May 30, 2017, 02:20:03 PM
Reply #80 on: May 30, 2017, 02:20:03 PM
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We definitely need extended Cuts of Prometheus and Covenant, just to get the pacing right and make the story just that bit clearer.

Im all for ambiguity in some places, but not when its for the sake of it

The problem with an Extended Cut is that it doesn't reach the same audience as a cinema does. Extended Cut's sometimes add more scenes that improve (or not) a certain aspect in the movie.

I remember Prometheus had an alternate opening. But I haven't seen any footage of that...
Alien Covenant could use some additions here and there and I'm pretty damn sure alot has been cut.

We'll see.

A sequel is 100% garantueed at this point. Covenant has been made on a relatively low-budget ...
Depends. I bet you more people saw the director's long home video cut of Blade Runner, Heaven's Gate, Once Upon a Time on America, and possibly Brazil than in their original theater releases. If they put out a longer version of Covenant, over time it may become the "true" version that everyone sees and remembers, and if it's good, that will improve the movie's rep.



Protozoid
May 30, 2017, 02:37:25 PM
Reply #82 on: May 30, 2017, 02:37:25 PM
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Blade Runner, Heaven's Gate, Once Upon a Time on America, and possibly Brazil

This is not those movies (and I don't even like Heaven's Gate much, though it is visually incredible).
Those were just off the top of my head. The idea is that it bombed in theaters and most people saw the home video version, resulting in a reappraisal. The bigger the bomb, the more opportunity for improvement there is. Sounds like they have a lot of footage for the last two movies. They could cobble together ultimate editions using all available footage and see if Ridley's vision grows on them. It almost certainly will. People want the long cuts to be good, which is most of the battle right there.


Salt The Fries
May 30, 2017, 07:22:36 PM
Reply #83 on: May 30, 2017, 07:22:36 PM
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Blade Runner, Heaven's Gate, Once Upon a Time on America, and possibly Brazil

This is not those movies (and I don't even like Heaven's Gate much, though it is visually incredible).
Those were just off the top of my head. The idea is that it bombed in theaters and most people saw the home video version, resulting in a reappraisal. The bigger the bomb, the more opportunity for improvement there is. Sounds like they have a lot of footage for the last two movies. They could cobble together ultimate editions using all available footage and see if Ridley's vision grows on them. It almost certainly will. People want the long cuts to be good, which is most of the battle right there.
Look no further than William Friedkin's Sorcerer from 1977. One prominent critic from New York Times gave it a bad review, then everybody went apeshit on Friedkin because he dared to remake a beloved French art-house classic from 1953 and then suddenly without giving ANY thought everybody was aping those comments without putting any thought. Simultaneous release next to Star Wars, confusing marketing and lack of English language for the first 20 minutes didn't help, either. But hey, 35 years later, it became gradually reappraised. I even had DIRECT impact on this reappraisal, I made 99% of content on its wikipedia page, and it even influenced Warner Bros. which then used quotes from 40 years ago which I painstakingly fished out from the deepest depths of the Internet. One chick who's a film reviewer even wrote a piece on it for Medium.com and she acknowledged my help and put a special thanks for me :) But anyway, even the crtiics which initially hated the film now made a U-turn and admitted they were wrong. And now even it is not only thought of as a lost classic but even a lot of critics think it's more relevant than the original version.


Protozoid
May 30, 2017, 07:32:57 PM
Reply #84 on: May 30, 2017, 07:32:57 PM
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Blade Runner, Heaven's Gate, Once Upon a Time on America, and possibly Brazil

This is not those movies (and I don't even like Heaven's Gate much, though it is visually incredible).
Those were just off the top of my head. The idea is that it bombed in theaters and most people saw the home video version, resulting in a reappraisal. The bigger the bomb, the more opportunity for improvement there is. Sounds like they have a lot of footage for the last two movies. They could cobble together ultimate editions using all available footage and see if Ridley's vision grows on them. It almost certainly will. People want the long cuts to be good, which is most of the battle right there.
Look no further than William Friedkin's Sorcerer from 1977. One prominent critic from New York Times gave it a bad review, then everybody went apeshit on Friedkin because he dared to remake a beloved French art-house classic from 1953 and then suddenly without giving ANY thought everybody was aping those comments without putting any thought. Simultaneous release next to Star Wars, confusing marketing and lack of English language for the first 20 minutes didn't help, either. But hey, 35 years later, it became gradually reappraised. I even had DIRECT impact on this reappraisal, I made 99% of content on its wikipedia page, and it even influenced Warner Bros. which then used quotes from 40 years ago which I painstakingly fished out from the deepest depths of the Internet. One chick who's a film reviewer even wrote a piece on it for Medium.com and she acknowledged my help and put a special thanks for me :) But anyway, even the crtiics which initially hated the film now made a U-turn and admitted they were wrong. And now even it is not only thought of as a lost classic but even a lot of critics think it's more relevant than the original version.
Sorcerer is a great example! All Friedkin had to do was recolorize the movie and critics treated it like a new cut of the movie, right? And now almost overnight its rep went from one of the worst films to one of the best. Incredible. Just saw it for the first time last year and it was gripping, mesmerizing, haunting stuff. Friedkin's masterpiece, IMHO.


D88M
May 30, 2017, 11:47:40 PM
Reply #85 on: May 30, 2017, 11:47:40 PM
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the pacing is too quick, and extended cut would be nice

yes, i really hope so, the pacing of the movie is a little rushed, just like in Prometheus, you can tell stuff was cut

« Last Edit: May 31, 2017, 12:39:14 AM by D88M »


BonesawT101
Jun 01, 2017, 02:44:44 PM
Reply #87 on: Jun 01, 2017, 02:44:44 PM
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I feel like the film would absolutely benefit from an extended cut on Blu Ray. In particular, the third act. I wonder if there were many scenes of the Alien and Neomorph cut from the film... ???


juxtapose
Jun 01, 2017, 02:55:51 PM
Reply #88 on: Jun 01, 2017, 02:55:51 PM
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when i went to see it today for the first time i was most worried that i was gonna really loce it up until that reported rushed 3rd act. .but i actually welcomed the quicker pace it took during the third act. .i generally hate it when the climax of a movie happens to early on. .but it never felt like that while i watched covenant. .some of the most memorable scenes was during the 3rd act. .was surprised how much i enjoyed the shower scene and even the infamous chestburster scene. .actually really loved the look of the baby xeno and it mimicking david did not even bother me in the least. .the fight scene between the androids was also alot more entertaining that what i had imagined. . And loved daniels panic when the alien gave chase before she finally defeated it. .so many awesome events during that 3rd act. .


Salt The Fries
Jun 01, 2017, 03:19:24 PM
Reply #89 on: Jun 01, 2017, 03:19:24 PM
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when i went to see it today for the first time i was most worried that i was gonna really loce it up until that reported rushed 3rd act. .but i actually welcomed the quicker pace it took during the third act. .i generally hate it when the climax of a movie happens to early on. .but it never felt like that while i watched covenant. .some of the most memorable scenes was during the 3rd act. .was surprised how much i enjoyed the shower scene and even the infamous chestburster scene. .actually really loved the look of the baby xeno and it mimicking david did not even bother me in the least. .the fight scene between the androids was also alot more entertaining that what i had imagined. . And loved daniels panic when the alien gave chase before she finally defeated it. .so many awesome events during that 3rd act. .

I had almost no problems with 3rd act and I think the Covenant's pacing was a deliberate attempt to distance itself from Prometheus's pacing. And the film - to me - had a superb flow.


 

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