Arnold talks about The Predator

Started by The Wolverine Predator, Apr 05, 2017, 09:50:01 PM

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Scorpio

Scorpio

#300
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Apr 30, 2017, 09:48:17 PM

Big mistake to not follow Dutch back in the early '90s.

How would it have been if Dutch was in the Peter Keyes role as originally planned (don't get me wrong I like Gary Busey)?  Except he didn't die but returned in the sequel, Predators, replacing Adrien Brody (who is not that memorable IMO).  And instead of Lawrence Fishburne in Predators it was Danny Glover.  One can only dream.  ::)

Ushella

Ushella

#301
Quote from: Scorpio on May 07, 2017, 08:36:53 AM
And instead of Lawrence Fishburne in Predators it was Danny Glover.  One can only dream.  ::)

Nahhh
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He's too old for that ****. Ba dum tss!
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Corporal Hicks

https://www.ihorror.com/why-arnold-schwarzenegger-refused-to-appear-in-the-predator/

I don't recognize some of the quotes from Black in here so not sure if this is a recent thing he's talked about.

CristianoRonaldo7

To be precise:

All Predators love challenges but an old man in his 70s(Arnold as Dutch) isn't a challenge. We need men in his 30s or early 40s. Nothing more.

SiL

SiL

#304
Arnie had said much earlier that he turned it down because he didn't want a cameo appearance.

Huggs

Huggs

#305
It's a shame to hear stuff like this. Smacks of ego.

OpenMaw

OpenMaw

#306
Eh, I actually agree with him.

There's no point to having Dutch there for two seconds right at the end.

The Old One

The Old One

#307
Yep.

Plus look at it from his perspective, they'd have to pay Arnold an unreasonable amount in comparison to his screen time that he would be there for.
Or he gets paid pittance and then it really isn't worth his while, and then he starts being asked to cameo in loads of things he has no interest in.

BishopShouldGo

Could've had a Quinn and Dutch dynamic...

Huggs

Huggs

#309
The big issue would be Dutch getting the comedy treatment. Some scenes with Arnold would've felt like an expendables movie, and that's definitely not something I'd like to see happen to Dutch.

HuDaFuK

HuDaFuK

#310
Quote from: Huggs on Aug 07, 2018, 06:55:28 AMThe big issue would be Dutch getting the comedy treatment.

"Stick around."

Dutch + comedy, right there in the first movie.

Johnny Handsome

I would say there was humour in the first movie, not flat out comedy. "The naked gun" is comedy, Predator is not. It's a serious movie with popcorn fun mixed in, hence the infamous one liners.

I love this, because it gives the movie a lightness and it's a big part why it has rewatch value, you can watch Predator on a thursday afternoon, and besides it being a very brutal movie, you don't feel bad at all. Predator 2 also has that, but at times unintentional, to be honest. Predators is the least favourite for me, partly because it feels dead on grim the whole time, there is (almost) no fun exchange between the characters, they all mistrust and don't give a f**k about each others until they... well, die.

I hope The Predator gives us that kind of humour and lightness, not flat out comedy to the point of self parody though, and it think that's all that people are asking for.


HuDaFuK

HuDaFuK

#312
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 07, 2018, 07:55:16 AMI would say there was humour in the first movie, not flat out comedy. "The naked gun" is comedy, Predator is not. It's a serious movie with popcorn fun mixed in, hence the infamous one liners.

It's black comedy, as are most of Arnie's action movies.

Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 07, 2018, 07:55:16 AMI love this, because it gives the movie a lightness and it's a big part why it has rewatch value, you can watch Predator on a thursday afternoon, and besides it being a very brutal movie, you don't feel bad at all.

Which is basically what I expect from The Predator, if Shane Black's previous movies are anything to go by. People seem to be blowing this "comedy" thing all out of proportion - the Lethal Weapon films are comedies, but it doesn't stop them also being brutal as hell, especially the first couple that Black wrote.

YTL_Hunter_H2

If anything I wouldn't mind Dutch having a son being introduced to the franchise. But I think the ship has sailed as far as Arnold or Glover squaring off with the predator again. Sad but at the very least we had continuity in the comics with his brother and General Phillips

The Old One

The Old One

#314
That kind of continuity is lame and uninspired.

In any franchise, if I wanted that kind of predictability I'd watch soaps.

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