Anybody else concerned

[von]

You guys are all insane. This movie is doing something great. By the looks of that leaked thing, there's a whole lot of things going on. Finally a Predator movie where a lot of things happen, not just slashing people one by one. I don't think any one of you loves the original more than me, and I find what I've read amazing. Can't wait. Damn time for Predator movie to explore stuff like this.

I'm on the same boat as you. Let's consider for a moment what Aliens did for Alien. As Fred Dekker puts it, we're indeed getting a "bigger picture" of the Predator universe and mythology, regardless of how accurate those leaked descriptions are. I love that the filmmakers intend on going totally nuts with this fresh and bold take on the intergalactic race of hunters. Definitely bringing the franchise forward in unchartered territory that many fans of the beloved original film will understandably feel nervous and sceptical about.

I really appreciate the fans who are more than happy to be getting a new Predator movie, and one that expands on the existing mythology!

If the filmmakers follow the classic "Ten Little Indians" plot, fans will lament the unnecessary remake. If they decide to go with something "radical" as Shane said, fans will still cry foul and yearn for the classic formula that made the original tick but this time with some new gadgets and upgrades. It's perplexing. From how I see it, the only way is forward. If they're going to make a new Predator movie for today's generation of moviegoers, let's introduce and explore new concepts and be brave about it. Otherwise just do a modern and lazy remake (like SW E7) to be safe!

It's 2017, and time to take the leap just as the Jurassic Park, Fast & Furious, Alien franchises and more have done or are doing. Only time will tell if the Predator franchise will succeed or not.

[overthere]

Damn, I can't wait for this movie to come out.

[The Wolverine Predator]

Damn, I can't wait for this movie to come out.

Me too bro, Me too


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[The Alien Predator]

Has anybody got those "I'm not sure about this" feeling running through their brains? I hope Shane Black can pull it off. I really do. Maybe the turn off is that kid who is in this film. Why is a kid in a Predator film? I'm sure I will be proven wrong.

I think, inside, everybody is worried.

By just looking into the recent franchises which came back...in a bad way, we have any right to be sceptical.

- the awful Terminator Genisys
- the bad Total Recall
- the disappointing Prometheus
- the poor Star Wars 7
- Predators...

Anyway, if the autistic child die within the first 5 minutes of The Predator...I guess it could be a great movie! 

I'm not worried at all and those films you listed, I enjoyed, especially Prometheus and Predators as they're part of my favourite franchise.

But I can see a lot of people are clearly worried. And a lot of the worries show a significant fear of change.

Let them try something new, it could be a great thing and something this franchise really needs. If we get 50 films of "hunt *insert faction* on *insert location*", this franchise will grow stale. There's only so many stories you can tell involving that before it gets repetitive. Look at how Predators was criticised for being too similar to Predator in lots of ways, not just with the constant references. Now Shane offers something new and is getting criticised. No matter what, one can never please everybody.

I found Prometheus really interesting because it finally broke the cycle of "single Alien/Alien infestation on *insert location*" and explored the bigger picture and answered the bigger questions which lead to more questions and speculations.

And finally lifting the mystery of the Jockey. I always wanted to see it eventually show up and am glad Prometheus did make that dream possible.

[The Wolverine Predator]

You guys are all insane. This movie is doing something great. By the looks of that leaked thing, there's a whole lot of things going on. Finally a Predator movie where a lot of things happen, not just slashing people one by one. I don't think any one of you loves the original more than me, and I find what I've read amazing. Can't wait. Damn time for Predator movie to explore stuff like this.

This guy. This guy gets it. This is the kind of fan Shane is making the movie for.

Same as me, I have never liked a movie like I do the Original Predator, I happen to sit through it every time it's on tv and I often will watch it on Blue-ray too, I want something exciting and not the same stuff over and over, no I don't want anything that will cheapen the movie, we have already done the muscle bound elite soldiers being picked off one by one, we've done it coming back and hunting in the city, we've had Predators kinda take a lot from the original but give it's own twist...it's time for a Predator movie with some good character backgrounds, some mystery and good ol fashioned detective story with some great action and maybe a plot twist to surprise us with


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[goose_3387]

The franchise needed something different. Whether it turns out good is another thing but it did need a new direction.

[von]

Don't know about the majority of you guys, but I can't wait to see how Larry Fong captures the Predator!

[T888]

The franchise needed something different. Whether it turns out good is another thing but it did need a new direction.

I am not worried about the new direction introduced by the leaks, I am worried about the choice of putting a kid at the center of attention. Same for The Covenant, why do they have to bring a very exuberant gay couple into the film? For what purpose? It's like, they have to do it otherwise they will be criticize of homophobic. And the kid is the same thing. We live in a world where we can not do whatever we want (and I don't even go on the feminism field...).

That's just political.

[BishopShouldGo]

The franchise needed something different. Whether it turns out good is another thing but it did need a new direction.

I am not worried about the new direction introduced by the leaks, I am worried about the choice of putting a kid at the center of attention. Same for The Covenant, why do they have to bring a very exuberant gay couple into the film? For what purpose? It's like, they have to do it otherwise they will be criticize of homophobic. And the kid is the same thing. We live in a world where we can not do whatever we want (and I don't even go on the feminism field...).

That's just political.

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/08/1487874796-1470920800-jesus14.png

Yeah, how dare they be gay and happy. YOU'RE the one making a big, "political" deal out of it.

[Stealth_Hunter]

T888, I understand your concerns about the kid but plenty of good, serious and dark films have kids as assets and/or main characters. "But why in a Predator film, it's not needed!!!1!!" Just because it's not needed doesn't mean it's bad. It's all about execution.

As for the Covenant thing, I only watched the prologue clip once and didn't know those guys were gay (granted I was texting while watching), but they certainly weren't the only exuberant people in the room. I don't think the filmmakers thought they'd be called homophobic for not including gay characters - but gay people exist, big deal. Not like Prometheus lost money because characters weren't gay. Obviously the filmmakers wrote and approved characters they wanted in the film. Now you're saying they shouldn't be allowed to while also saying we live in a world where we can't do whatever we want just seems contradictory.

And how does it make sense to say "It's like, they have to do it otherwise they will be criticize of homophobic. And the kid is the same thing"? I'm missing how that's the same thing. I feel like in your head they're the same because in your opinion gay characters and kids are bad news and "can only add trouble." That's not true though.

[T888]

The franchise needed something different. Whether it turns out good is another thing but it did need a new direction.

I am not worried about the new direction introduced by the leaks, I am worried about the choice of putting a kid at the center of attention. Same for The Covenant, why do they have to bring a very exuberant gay couple into the film? For what purpose? It's like, they have to do it otherwise they will be criticize of homophobic. And the kid is the same thing. We live in a world where we can not do whatever we want (and I don't even go on the feminism field...).

That's just political.

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/08/1487874796-1470920800-jesus14.png

Yeah, how dare they be gay and happy. YOU'RE the one making a big, "political" deal out of it.

That is not the point and you know it.

Gay people in the excellent movie "I Love You Phillip Morris" have their place, but a couple in a spaceship who is going to colonise a planet, why? It looks more like a family going to a picnic than a crew of the best specialists going to the mission of their lives.

T888, I understand your concerns about the kid but plenty of good, serious and dark films have kids as assets and/or main characters. "But why in a Predator film, it's not needed!!!1!!" Just because it's not needed doesn't mean it's bad. It's all about execution.

As for the Covenant thing, I only watched the prologue clip once and didn't know those guys were gay (granted I was texting while watching), but they certainly weren't the only exuberant people in the room. I don't think the filmmakers thought they'd be called homophobic for not including gay characters - but gay people exist, big deal. Not like Prometheus lost money because characters weren't gay. Obviously the filmmakers wrote and approved characters they wanted in the film. Now you're saying they shouldn't be allowed to while also saying we live in a world where we can't do whatever we want just seems contradictory.

And how does it make sense to say "It's like, they have to do it otherwise they will be criticize of homophobic. And the kid is the same thing"? I'm missing how that's the same thing. I feel like in your head they're the same because in your opinion gay characters and kids are bad news and "can only add trouble." That's not true though.

I exagerated on purpose and I responded a little bit more in my previous message.

But my point is this: Why not focusing on the real matter? Doing a Predator film. Doing an Alien film? Let's go back together and see what made these films the best of their kind. By putting the spectator in the front seat of fear, of survival and of the human limits by the way of a ingenious story.

Now let's see what today we have in Predators, Terminator Genysis: action, action, action and nothing else (the plot of Predators was good but very badly managed).

So why bother to put another constraint (like a kid) which can only be a risk and not a safe bet?

Do you follow me?

[Stealth_Hunter]

The franchise needed something different. Whether it turns out good is another thing but it did need a new direction.

I am not worried about the new direction introduced by the leaks, I am worried about the choice of putting a kid at the center of attention. Same for The Covenant, why do they have to bring a very exuberant gay couple into the film? For what purpose? It's like, they have to do it otherwise they will be criticize of homophobic. And the kid is the same thing. We live in a world where we can not do whatever we want (and I don't even go on the feminism field...).

That's just political.

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/08/1487874796-1470920800-jesus14.png

Yeah, how dare they be gay and happy. YOU'RE the one making a big, "political" deal out of it.

That is not the point and you know it.

Gay people in the excellent movie "I Love You Phillip Morris" have their place, but a couple in a spaceship who is going to colonise a planet, why? It looks more like a family going to a picnic than a crew of the best specialists going to the mission of their lives.

Gay people are people, dude. They exist in all aspects of society and are allowed to be scientists, engineers, astronauts, whatever, and get involved in situations that don't have to do with their sexuality. You can't reduce them to their sexuality and expect them to stay within that box. Try opening your perspective.

You might as well have said "Black people in excellent movie '12 years a slave' have their place, but in a spaceship to colonize a planet? Why?"

[BishopShouldGo]

Uh, the colonists that are in cryosleep and the embryos in the freezer will be doing all of the populating. These people who are awake are just the crew, with specialties. And there are advantages to having a diverse crew, not only socio-diverse or bio-diverse but sexually diverse too.

It's a colonizing mission, they especially have a place there. Anyway that's that on that, I'm not entertaining you anymore.

[The Alien Predator]

Uh, the colonists that are in cryosleep and the embryos in the freezer will be doing all of the populating. These people who are awake are just the crew, with specialties. And there are advantages to having a diverse crew, not only socio-diverse or bio-diverse but sexually diverse too.

It's a colonizing mission, they especially have a place there. Anyway that's that on that, I'm not entertaining you anymore.

I agree, these are some very good points.

[T888]

The franchise needed something different. Whether it turns out good is another thing but it did need a new direction.

I am not worried about the new direction introduced by the leaks, I am worried about the choice of putting a kid at the center of attention. Same for The Covenant, why do they have to bring a very exuberant gay couple into the film? For what purpose? It's like, they have to do it otherwise they will be criticize of homophobic. And the kid is the same thing. We live in a world where we can not do whatever we want (and I don't even go on the feminism field...).

That's just political.

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/08/1487874796-1470920800-jesus14.png

Yeah, how dare they be gay and happy. YOU'RE the one making a big, "political" deal out of it.

That is not the point and you know it.

Gay people in the excellent movie "I Love You Phillip Morris" have their place, but a couple in a spaceship who is going to colonise a planet, why? It looks more like a family going to a picnic than a crew of the best specialists going to the mission of their lives.

Gay people are people, dude. They exist in all aspects of society and are allowed to be scientists, engineers, astronauts, whatever, and get involved in situations that don't have to do with their sexuality. You can't reduce them to their sexuality and expect them to stay within that box. Try opening your perspective.

You might as well have said "Black people in excellent movie '12 years a slave' have their place, but in a spaceship to colonize a planet? Why?"

You don't get what I tried to say. I am not only talking about the gay couple in Alien Covenant, but the other people, it seems that they are almost all in couple. It is weird. We lose something I think. In the first Alien, nobody knew nobody before going into the ship. That is why the huit-clos (in english we say "behind closed doors style of film" I think) was so intense. But here (also in Prometheus), some of the crew are already together. I think it is not a good move.
And that is why I talked about the gay couple, because It seems very exuberant in comparison of the other. That's all. I was uncomfortable actually. That is my point.

I am still the devil?



And I edit my post before, I add this:

I exagerated on purpose and I responded a little bit more in my previous message.

But my point is this: Why not focusing on the real matter? Doing a Predator film. Doing an Alien film? Let's go back together and see what made these films the best of their kind. By putting the spectator in the front seat of fear, of survival and of the human limits by the way of a ingenious story.

Now let's see what today we have in Predators, Terminator Genysis: action, action, action and nothing else (the plot of Predators was good but very badly managed).

So why bother to put another constraint (like a kid) which can only be a risk and not a safe bet?

Do you follow me?