Quote from: Richman678 on Feb 17, 2017, 03:02:20 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Feb 17, 2017, 01:29:16 PM
obviously it was a different goo. it cannot be the same anyway, as the engineer that drank the stuff literally fell apart. ok, he drank quite a good bunch of it, but still, he did not transform. he literally fell into pieces and was flushed away through the rivers.
Wait there's 2 different Black Goo's?
I've always thought that it was the amount of Black Goo that reflects how fast the change happens. Meaning The Engineer drinks a whole shot glass of it, and immediately turns. Holloway has only a drop, and that's why it takes a while before he starts to turn.
Of course none of this explains what happened to Fifield , but I believe that was done in a re-shoot...and stupid Lindeloff's idea.
However, if there is a 2nd black goo......I dont know how I feel about that. Mostly negative in terms of can Prometheus actually irritate me any more?
yeah it's true that the 'reshoot' caused some disturbance, but still you'll have to keep it in mind as 'canon', even if that makes it even the more confusing.
If you analyze it, it really is confusing.
Engineer drinks a good cup of black goo.
Engineer has the exact DNA as humans [ as weird as that is ] so essentially, we're the same. Engineer is bigger and stronger though. Engineer disintegrates in a matter of what, seconds? you see veins turning black, skin falling off, the wind blows him to pieces, bones break, and adios there he goes.
Then suddenly, we see red bloodcells and a living planet, which tries to imply that him drinking that stuff resulted in a planet of vivid lifeforms, earth seeded through a engineer sacrificing itself? I personally actually dont believe that it was earth but that's a different story alltogether.
So which events do we have that show effects with black goo?
Hollway indeed 'only' gets a drop, and you can see it has effect on him, he's 'sick'. There some stuff to take into account though. He sees in his eye that there's a tiny worm-like thing crawling in his eye. he is sweaty, gets worse and worse. he then needs medical attention but prefers to get burnt to a crisp.
end of holloway. the only examples of 'drinking' the same material. this is however not where it ends.
Dr holloway's black goo poisening also affected his sperm and then this ubermutatedsperm was able to impregnate an unfurtile woman ( not sure if i recall correctly that she probably had no uterus? ). and grows a horrible trilobite squidward facehugger-like being that essentially is a creature meant to kill, and that creature then will create another creature tha is meant to kill.
in other words, we get 2 different results from the same material through comparable 'ingestion'.
1 creates a seed of life that destroys its drinker but then creates a wonderfull, happy joyful planet full of green, cuteness, and intelligence, and creatures capable of love.
but then, we see that when somebody else drinks it, it brings only darkness and morbid destruction, a being that the engineer even feared (and caused its death). There is no way that the trilobite and deacon are ever able to bring a planet full of green and happiness.
it thus makes no sense if it is the same material.
Shaw concludes that they 'were so wrong' about it all and that it is a bioweapon facility and that it only brings death.
what more examples of the black goo do we see that supports this?
Well, when the black goo oozes out of the vases on the floor, we see a couple of worms (lets ignore the idiocy there, a sterile environment that has worms which must be over 2000 years old? no. no. no. no) that come in contact with the black goo.
This then turns the worms into visciously hostile snakedick creatures, that grab on to its victim, and kills it. It has acidic blood and it shoots itself into the mouth of its victim. what it does then? we never see. Would it be comparable to a facehugger/trilobite in laying an embryo? is it entering the victim to eat it from the inside out? dunno. it is in no case a good thing.
in staying with this incident, we get to the point where fifield gets his helmet damaged by the acidic spray when he cuts the hammerpede in half, which melts his visor onto his face (must have been really really bad) and he falls into the black goo.
the black goo then somehow, without it being digested, comes in contact with fifield in some sort of manner - he was wearing gloves and a suit, so skin contact would be a bit odd but let's assume his face touches the material somehow and then it is able to 'poisen' him.
what happens to fifield? does he fall apart and create bright flowers trees and sheeps and cows?
nope. he mutates, transforms, into a being that looks really a lot like its shaping into the same physical characteristics of an alien or deacon.
does it cuddle and help build a better world? nope, it gruesomely murders the humans around it.
again, not happily ever after material.
which ultimately brings us again to the clear truth: the black goo that we see during the developments of the prometheus crew excursion,
is of destructive nature and intent.
the black goo that we see at the beginning of the movie suggests it has 'creating' nature and intent.
so it cannot be the same material in the intro and during the prometheus encounters.
OR, and this again brings me to my statement about the prometheus intro :
the black goo does NOT create life at all, and the black goo the engineer drinks is the same, but the amount he gets is enough to have such strong effect that he disintegrates. fitting with a material / substance htat is of destructive intent,
and the 'blend' towards seeing red bloodcells etc.and a green planet has nothing to do with the engineer death and black goo at all.
which would suggest that the planet we see the engineer take his drink on is NOT the same planet as earth.
confusing? YES.
am i hoping covenant will clear this up? YES.
am i confident it will give a satisfying answer? NOPE!