Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on Jan 30, 2017, 11:21:40 PM
QuoteHuh?! What are you talking about? I've read the article and formed my opinion after I've read it.
Not after reading the article, after reading the script (hypothetically). You said you wouldn't be able to form an opinion about it.
QuoteAnd all I was saying, is that a person as inexperienced as, in this case McGregor, with no prior experience working with big movie people is not really qualified to be judging whether a movie script from a major film corporation is good or bad.
He knows what he personally likes and he's quoted as saying what was pitched to him was "brilliant." If the headline read "McGregor trashes Shane Black's Predator script," the narrative wouldn't be "He doesn't know anything about screenwriting." People would be worried and for good reason if that were the case.
QuoteEspecially when he just asks how much he will be paid, without reading the script
Do actors typically read scripts before they know how much they're being offered?
QuoteYou're missing the whole point there friend, again.
When someone, who has never ever worked with big movie people, is offered a role, a big chance, in a major motion picture from a major film coporation, offered to stay and film not in some desert or rainforest but in Canada (a developed first world country with clean tap water, electricity and plenty of affordable hotels and hospitals with trained medical staff for his pregnant wife), turns down this big chance to become experienced in this movie business. Now ask yourself, can this person tell whether a movie script from a major film corporation is good or bad, or say that he really hates it?
Thats a weak point as his personal decisions regarding his life priorities habe nothing to do with his capability to like or dislike something he reads.
If he had read it, though, yes, he'd be able to decide whether he liked it or not. You don't have to be in the film industry to have an opinion of whether a script is good or bad. A script is a story and like any story, whether it's good or bad is simply based on opinion.
Us fans on this site don't even have a script but we sure are opinionated on what ideas, if in the script, are good or absolute garbage (look at the varied reactions to Tremblay's character description). If you said "I don't like the idea of having a Predator be the protagonist in a film," I would agree. I wouldn't say "well you're not in the movie business so you don't know what a good script or story is."
QuoteNot after reading the article, after reading the script (hypothetically). You said you wouldn't be able to form an opinion about it.
Uhhm, no I didn't. I was talking about being able to
differentiate a good script from a bad one, which is a bit different then forming an opinion on one.
QuoteHe knows what he personally likes and he's quoted as saying what was pitched to him was "brilliant." If the headline read "McGregor trashes Shane Black's Predator script," the narrative wouldn't be "He doesn't know anything about screenwriting." People would be worried and for good reason if that were the case.
He is also quoted as saying "We want you to be the
main guy and you're gonna fight [the] Predator" which Shane himself said on twwiter that McGregor was not offered the lead role, meaning that McGregor probably wasn't really sure what the filmmakers wanted from him, and what he liked or disliked exactly about the film.
QuoteDo actors typically read scripts before they know how much they're being offered?
Even if they don't, it still was a bit arrogant of him to ask a question like that, especially taking into account that he has never made a movie before and that he is not really an actor, not a professional one anyway. He is a MMA fighter.
QuoteThats a weak point as his personal decisions regarding his life priorities habe nothing to do with his capability to like or dislike something he reads.
OK, thats a valid point, I agree.
QuoteYou don't have to be in the film industry to have an opinion of whether a script is good or bad.
Its not really about being able to form an opinion, it's about having a
professional ability to differentiate a good script from a bad one, like I was implying in my very first post.
QuoteA script is a story and like any story, whether it's good or bad is simply based on opinion.
Thats not entirely true. The thing about scripts is that something might look good and seem like a good concept on paper, but on screen it will look like crap, and vise verca. This is why most, almost all, movies based on videogames are such a failure, even though movies and videogames all tell some sort of story. So if you are not porofessional enough, and you say that a script was good, but then in the end the movie turns out to be crap, you will end up looking like an idiot. So this is why its important to have a
professional ability to differentiate a good script from a bad one.