Mr.Deacon.

Started by Infected, Dec 27, 2016, 09:27:32 PM

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Infected

Infected

This probably has passed the thread, but my question is about the Deacon from Prometheus.
What is its function?
It doesnt got a graboid mouth like the xenomorph, its just a meat popsicle that jumps out of his mouth and extend his skull a bit.
But what can he do with that?? is there ever anything told about that, besides he could crush you,break your neck, snap you in half, snap you into a sandwich etc is it an alien king? oh yeah and will he have acid for blood?





SM

SM

#1
No way of knowing just from the film.  The Fire & Stone comics hinted it might've grown into lifeform the size of a mountain (which had acid for blood from memory)

Infected

Infected

#2
HistoryEdit

The Deacon was an accidental result of the Engineers' Chemical A0-3959X.91 – 15 that was originally used as a bio weapon as well as presumably creating life. The Liquid infected Charlie Holloway, who impregnated Elizabeth Shaw with a Trilobite. This Trilobite eventually matured and impregnated an Engineer on LV-223, whereupon the Deacon developed and burst from the Engineer's chest. Sometime later, more visitors arrived on LV-223 and after a series of events, the survivors arrived at a mountain with acidic "veins" that had grown around the Prometheus life-boat. Eldon assumes that whatever was on board the life-boat became the mountain, implying it to be the Deacon.   
CharacteristicsEdit

The Deacon has a blue smooth body, four fingers and a thumb and plantigrade legs. Their mouth possesses two different teeth sets, the top Jaw having teeth typical to herbivores, while its lower jaw had sharp teeth spread apart, the gum that protrudes behind the top possesses sharp teeth.
Differences from XenomorphsEdit

The biggest difference between Xenomorphs and the Deacon is the host they come from. As with all Xenomorphs, they gain different characteristics from their hosts. It is important to note how the birth of this creature is different from the majority of Xenomorph births - it was born with arms and legs, while most other Xenomorphs born of humanoid hosts lack legs and arms before maturing. Instead of having a second inner jaw like the Xenomorph, the Deacon had a single set of protrusible jaws more akin to those of the goblin shark, where the upper jaw can unhinge and move forwards.[2] The deacon also lacks any bio-mechanical features, being nearly completely smooth, with exception of some ribs showing.

Unlike most Xenomorph Chestbursters encountered by humans (which push forwards out of their host's body), the Deacon used the sharp back end of its head to tear a way out of its host.
List of Known VictimsEdit

    Last Engineer (host)

Behind the ScenesEdit
Deacon/XenomorphEdit

There is apparently some confusion over whether or not the Deacon is intended to be some kind of Xenomorph, largely brought about by the major script revisions made on Prometheus during development (originally, the Xenomorphs were to feature in the film) and as a result of the production team occasionally referring to the creature as a Protomorph or Proto-Xenomorph (terms carried over from earlier script drafts).

However, evidence suggests the Deacon is not supposed to be a Xenomorph breed, or even a progenitor to the Xenomorph race. A mural of a fully-grown Xenomorph, resembling a Drone, can be seen on the wall of the Engineer Temple on LV-223, indicating that the Xenomorphs already exist by the time of Prometheus. The film's co-writer, Damon Lindelof, has stated, "I felt that the punchline of Prometheus was going to be that there is human DNA in what we have come to know as the human Xenomorph." However, his key use of the word "was" confirms this concept was eventually dropped from the final film.

Furthermore, the Deacon is not a creature created by a Facehugger impregnating an Engineer, but rather is created by a Trilobite. In the film's original script, an Engineer did become impregnated by a Facehugger, leading to an Engineer-spawned Xenomorph, although this was later changed when 20th Century Fox pressed Ridley Scott to remove the Xenomorph from the story altogether.

Despite not being a Xenomorph, the Deacon shares undeniable similarities with the former species, including the use of a living host as a means of gestation. Both the Deacon and the Xenomorph also possess a skeletal frame, an elongated head and an inner-jaw (although the Deacon's inner jaw is notably different to that of the Xenomorph). These similarities have likely only fueled opinions that the Xenomorph and the Deacon are supposed to be related.
Name originEdit

The creature's production name became known as "The Deacon" because according to Prometheus director Ridley Scott its head looks like a Bishop's mitre, the Christian church Deacon's pointed hat. [3]
TriviaEdit

    The Deacon was originally intended to have more screen time following its birth, pursuing Shaw and David to the second Juggernaut ship and narrowly missing them as they leave the planet.[4]
    The Deacon bears a resemblance to the larger Xenomorphs (simply referred to as "Aliens") encountered in the Game Boy version of Alien 3, being similar in size and body structure (barring the addition of a tail), and having a pointed cone-like head.


Quote from: SM on Dec 27, 2016, 09:31:14 PM
No way of knowing just from the film.  The Fire & Stone comics hinted it might've grown into lifeform the size of a mountain (which had acid for blood from memory)
I just found out :D gonna look for those comics though.
and the size of a mountain is pretty sick..

whiterabbit

whiterabbit

#3
So fox decided to remove the alien from Prometheus... yea so they could have David add in the bio mechanical parts later.

acrediblesource

acrediblesource

#4
Why mountain size? Literal or figurative?
Otherwise at  that size could devour buildings rather than people. I like the idea that the Deacon could be defenseless but still a predator. It's not nearly as evolved as the xeno, but it serves it's purpose as a wonderer (much like the concept art depicts him doing). By wandering,  it is a creature just like a wolf and I could see it full grown, the size and shape like an xeno but with  much different details. Maybe turning elbino and see through. Maybe the deacon is the precursor to what we will see in Covenant.

Quote from: SM on Dec 27, 2016, 09:31:14 PM
No way of knowing just from the film.  The Fire & Stone comics hinted it might've grown into lifeform the size of a mountain (which had acid for blood from memory)

EuanDewar

EuanDewar

#5
Quote from: acrediblesource on Dec 28, 2016, 04:14:25 AM
Why mountain size? Literal or figurative?
Otherwise at  that size could devour buildings rather than people. I like the idea that the Deacon could be defenseless but still a predator. It's not nearly as evolved as the xeno, but it serves it's purpose as a wonderer (much like the concept art depicts him doing). By wandering,  it is a creature just like a wolf and I could see it full grown, the size and shape like an xeno but with  much different details. Maybe turning elbino and see through. Maybe the deacon is the precursor to what we will see in Covenant.

Quote from: SM on Dec 27, 2016, 09:31:14 PM
No way of knowing just from the film.  The Fire & Stone comics hinted it might've grown into lifeform the size of a mountain (which had acid for blood from memory)
No like it literally turns into a mountain. I know it sounds as if I'm taking the piss but genuinely. The Fire & Stone comics are mental, mate.

SM

SM

#6
Spoiler
It is for all intents and purposes, a mountain, but one that is noted to grow in size.  Also Aliens don't go anywhere near it, and a transmitter is believed to be underneath it (Vickers' lifeboat).
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Infected

Infected

#7
Say what? So a real mountain???!! Interesting yet weird at the same time, why would it become a mountain?
On another site they state that the deacon is a protoxeno or protomorph.

JokersWarPig

JokersWarPig

#8
The whole mountain thing seems pretty mental. I don't understand how it would get that big? Does it move? Does it eat? Does it have a head?
It sounds like the god bug from that (god awful) third starship troopers movie.

EuanDewar

EuanDewar

#9
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Dec 28, 2016, 01:43:10 PM
The whole mountain thing seems pretty mental. I don't understand how it would get that big? Does it move? Does it eat? Does it have a head?
It sounds like the god bug from that (god awful) third starship troopers movie.
No it is, in the most literal sense, a mountain. It bleeds acid and can alter its mass in some way (it constricts walls as the characters are trying to escape. Think like the compacter from Star Wars) but it is otherwise just a mountain with no other resemblance to alien anything. It's f**king bonkers in an admirable way.

DorkiDori

DorkiDori

#10
Quote from: Infected on Dec 27, 2016, 09:33:19 PM

...A mural of a fully-grown Xenomorph, resembling a Drone, can be seen on the wall of the Engineer Temple on LV-223, indicating that the Xenomorphs already exist by the time of Prometheus...



WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

This drives me f**king BATTY that no one has corrected this information! Its SO clearly a DEACON in the center of the mural! The top of the head is a pointed spire and bent forward into hes chest (like hes looking straight down)... also the deacon in the mural is based upon the later deacon concept design as seen below...



here is the mural shown in the film for comparison...



It amazes me how people see a Xenomorph in the mural when it doesnt resemble a Xeno at all... different head shape (pointed instead of a penis) and no real biomechanical features

SM

SM

#11
So Aliens can't bend their head forward...?

oduodu

oduodu

#12
How do you know thats not a neomorph in the mural ?

DorkiDori

DorkiDori

#13
Because Neomorphs are...

Spoiler
Davids creation as stated in the spoilers of Alien: Covenant
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Again, the wall mural is a DEACON... the shape of the deacons head narrows and comes to a point/spire. the xenomorph head is the same thickness and comes to the tip of a penis. My life revolves around being an artist/designer, everything in my world is visual based. I have made a career from observing details... take a VERY hard look at the head shape in the mural (doing things like this via your cell phone is usually a bad idea because of how limited viewing space you have) and review what im trying to tell you.

I think were going to find out that the accelerant on LV223 was being engineered to produce Deacons. I really have a feeling that the accelerant is a distribution method for various forms of biological infection that manifests into creatures (ie: how the facehugger is a transport for a xenomorph infection)

Also, look at the torso, completely different design in Deacon vs Xeno..


SM

SM

#14
The head in the mural doesn't end in a point.  And it has a 'collar' of sorts around its neck which the Deacon doesn't.

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