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Author Topic: Has AvPR improved wih age?  (Read 40071 times)

HuDaFuK
Nov 21, 2017, 04:17:16 PM
Reply #885 on: Nov 21, 2017, 04:17:16 PM
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...and scenes at the high school during the day (scripted, not sure if filmed).

One of the ghost characters in the credits is (according to the script) their teacher Mr. Thomas, so I'd imagine that must have been filmed for his name to get there.


Corporal Hicks
Nov 22, 2017, 08:57:34 AM
Reply #886 on: Nov 22, 2017, 08:57:34 AM
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Wasn't he the one who gave the survival of the fittest speech in the first draft? Was that in the shooting draft?


HuDaFuK
Nov 22, 2017, 09:28:38 AM
Reply #887 on: Nov 22, 2017, 09:28:38 AM
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Yeah, that's him.

No idea if it was in the shooting draft but, again, if his name is in the credits I can't see it not being filmed.


SiL
Nov 22, 2017, 10:08:30 AM
Reply #888 on: Nov 22, 2017, 10:08:30 AM
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Why must you make me go spelunking into that God-awful script?

In the August 21st 2006 draft, Mr Thomas still gives his Survival of the Fittest speech. This cuts between the classroom, and Wolf entering the sewers following the facehuggers. His role ends when Ricky beats up Dale after Dale taunts him about pizza delivery.

I do remember Crom saying that most of the stuff from the second day (story-wise; the day after Wolf shows up and kills Ray) was completely cut from the film; the school, Molly at the park, and a few other equally irrelevant scraps took place then.




OpenMaw
Dec 05, 2017, 05:20:22 PM
Reply #891 on: Dec 05, 2017, 05:20:22 PM
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Best thing to come out of this review is thanks to SiL's spelunking that lead to that hysterical script play-by-play review.


Alionic
Dec 06, 2017, 06:46:33 PM
Reply #892 on: Dec 06, 2017, 06:46:33 PM
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I'd probably buy a re-release with the "right" colour grading on it.

I sincerely hope they release a 4k HDR set of both AVP films. It would obviously help AVPR immensely, but I think the pyramid scenes (I think the current lighting is fine) in the first one would benefit from the details.

That I know of, there's the stuff with the kids, the skinned Predators, the alternate ending and probably at least a couple of other scenes mentioned in the scripts, characters from which are still listed in the film's credits, implying they were filmed and considered for inclusion at some point. In their commentary, the Strauses also talk about filming some Predator POV shots that never made the movie. And I'd assume the original final act where Dallas' kid brother dies exists in some form, as that was supposedly changed after a test screening.

Wow, I never heard about these. Interesting.


GreybackElder
Dec 09, 2017, 10:43:48 PM
Reply #893 on: Dec 09, 2017, 10:43:48 PM
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That I know of, there's the stuff with the kids, the skinned Predators, the alternate ending and probably at least a couple of other scenes mentioned in the scripts, characters from which are still listed in the film's credits, implying they were filmed and considered for inclusion at some point. In their commentary, the Strauses also talk about filming some Predator POV shots that never made the movie. And I'd assume the original final act where Dallas' kid brother dies exists in some form, as that was supposedly changed after a test screening.

Nothing groundbreaking, but out of curiosity I'd be interested to see whatever they have. As it is, the film's easily the shortest in the franchise, and I remember reading somewhere that it was cut quite considerably for time shortly before release. (Because Fox realised they had a stinker on their hands and just wanted to maximise how many times it could be shown in a day?)
An alternate ending to this film would be great!! But, Honestly I would just love a film where didn’t have to adjust my TV everytime I watched it!


HuDaFuK
Dec 10, 2017, 05:50:36 PM
Reply #894 on: Dec 10, 2017, 05:50:36 PM
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An alternate ending to this film would be great!!

It really wasn't much different - essentially, the special forces soldiers that find the survivors just machine gun them all instead of rescuing them. They decided it was too bleak.


OpenMaw
Dec 10, 2017, 09:04:58 PM
Reply #895 on: Dec 10, 2017, 09:04:58 PM
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Though I think the bleaker ending would make more sense... Sorta.

The movie feels like it thinks its being so f*cking clever with the whole "Government is evil" running "theme."


SM
Dec 10, 2017, 11:09:50 PM
Reply #896 on: Dec 10, 2017, 11:09:50 PM
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As mean spirited as the film was - that ending would've plumbed new depths.


SiL
Dec 10, 2017, 11:22:35 PM
Reply #897 on: Dec 10, 2017, 11:22:35 PM
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I don't think they filmed it, either.


DerelictShip
Dec 12, 2017, 05:10:02 PM
Reply #898 on: Dec 12, 2017, 05:10:02 PM
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Absolutely despise AVPR.

Literally attempted to watch it again, in god knows how long, got 5 minutes in, remembered how dark everything was, got frustrated. Turned the t.v. off.

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genocyber
Dec 12, 2017, 11:04:15 PM
Reply #899 on: Dec 12, 2017, 11:04:15 PM
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I feel that this film would benefit greatly from a directors cut to re edit certain scenes and fix the lighting issues, since the shots in the trailer looked great compared to what we got.


 

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