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Author Topic: Has AvPR improved wih age?  (Read 39637 times)

Randomizer
Mar 27, 2015, 08:08:20 PM
Reply #15 on: Mar 27, 2015, 08:08:20 PM
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  No. I don't have the patience to watch it again but still I can't throw it away. Just like a disease.  :laugh:


Perfect-Organism
Mar 27, 2015, 10:12:00 PM
Reply #16 on: Mar 27, 2015, 10:12:00 PM
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I think the real horror of any chest-bursting scene is in knowing the person who is having it happen to them.  The drawn-out waiting game adds to the horror.  When u see an infected person talking with others, yet fully oblivious to what is about to happen, that person is somehow simultaneously alive and dead.  Getting to know them better, builds our empathy and thus also our horror rises.  This is what made Kane's death so poignant.  (That and the fact that it was the first of its kind.). In the case of AVP and AVPR, there was no emotional growth to any of the people infected during the film.  So it wasn't horror.  It was just gratuitous gore.

I think Alien fans aren't really into the gore.  I think somehow we place ourselves in the shoes of the victims and "appreciate" the impossible horror of knowing what is about to happen.  The final moments before the actual gore.  That's where your real story is.  AVPR totally missed this...

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happypred
Mar 28, 2015, 03:05:36 AM
Reply #17 on: Mar 28, 2015, 03:05:36 AM
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Still better than AvP 2004



predxeno
Mar 28, 2015, 05:49:30 AM
Reply #19 on: Mar 28, 2015, 05:49:30 AM
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Wow, I was going to post this exact thread, but you beat me to the punch, Perfect-Organism.  I just rewatched AVPR after over a year's absence of it and while I was initially afraid that I wouldn't like the film as much as I did before, I discovered to my delight that it still provides great entertainment value, at least for me. ;)  Tbh, I always suspected that the reason I liked AVPR while no one else did was because of my affinity to the EU of the AVP franchise.  AVPR seems to share a lot in common with the comic books from Dark Horse so watching the film was like watching a motion capture of another comic book story. 

Interestingly enough, I also felt like I could connect with many of the characters in the film, despite everybody's statements that all the characters were flat.  When the film first came out I was 17 and I could really relate to Rick's character since he and I were about the same age.  I also lived in what some could call a "hostile family" so I kind of grew on the idea of a protective older brother to help out when my onscreen movie avatar, Rick, got in trouble.  I also loved the Ripley-Newt dynamic from Aliens and was so distraught when it ended in Alien 3, therefore when their modern day incarnation personified in the Kelly-Molly duo appeared, it also helped me love AVPR.  These characters weren't cardboard stand-ins to me, like they were to everyone else, but they were people I kind of wished I could have been around during that age.

Yes. I can still watch AVPR and have a great time. I love the Predalien. It's a mean and frightening looking monster and didn't lose any of it's greatness. Wolf is still the best Predator, ever. Coming to earth to clean up the Alien infestation and wiping out every human that comes in his way. Even Miss Yutani appears at the end which is really cool. So yes, this movie is getting better and better. The only Alien related movie I like less and less is Prometheus. What a worthless piece of trash. Please go away, Prometheus.

I agree, Prometheus never should have been included in the AVP or Alien franchise.  While I appreciate what Prometheus tried to do, I felt it ventured too far from what Alien was supposed to be and would have been better suited as its own separate franchise.  Despite the fact that both AVP films flopped at the box office, they do provide a classic AVP vibe that really can't be replaced by whatever fancy spinoff/publicity stunt Ridley Scott can come up with.

I keep meaning to rewatch it; I've defended it in the past because I get what they were trying to do, but it poorly executed. I really must buy the Blu-Ray, I've read numerous times on here that it's a far better experience than the DVD because you can actually see what's going on.

That's true, but there was some sloppy editing in the Blu-Ray cut and Jesse's death in the Blu-Ray's unrated cut is the same as the theatrical; the DVD has the extended, gorier death.


whiterabbit
Mar 28, 2015, 06:04:56 AM
Reply #20 on: Mar 28, 2015, 06:04:56 AM
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I think AvPR is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills aleins and doesnt afraid of anything.


Son Of Kane
Mar 28, 2015, 02:08:45 PM
Reply #21 on: Mar 28, 2015, 02:08:45 PM
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I'd rather Prometheus expand tje franchise than AVP/AVPR.




happypred
Mar 30, 2015, 03:21:44 AM
Reply #24 on: Mar 30, 2015, 03:21:44 AM
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I think he's talking about Wolf


Corporal Hicks
Mar 30, 2015, 09:36:18 AM
Reply #25 on: Mar 30, 2015, 09:36:18 AM
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Tbh, I always suspected that the reason I liked AVPR while no one else did was because of my affinity to the EU of the AVP franchise. 

I love the EU. Always have. It was my discovery of the EU that led to me getting more involved in the online community. I still loath this film

It's a matter of taste, I guess.

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predxeno
Mar 30, 2015, 04:36:39 PM
Reply #27 on: Mar 30, 2015, 04:36:39 PM
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Dang, there goes that theory.  Out of curiosity, you guys staid you couldn't stomach a rewatch, which scenes couldn't you go through again?


Omegamorph
Mar 30, 2015, 04:53:46 PM
Reply #28 on: Mar 30, 2015, 04:53:46 PM
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Everything besides Wolf in the ship.


Perfect-Organism
Mar 30, 2015, 04:58:29 PM
Reply #29 on: Mar 30, 2015, 04:58:29 PM
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The pregnant woman scene was too much, and especially because it was just gratuitous.  If you're going to do something this groundbreakingly horrific, make the whole movie about it.  Otherwise it is just gore and devoid of any value, other than for sick people's enjoyment.


 

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