What We Know So Far

Started by Darkness, Nov 22, 2006, 05:38:04 PM

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Darkness

Darkness

AvP2

Cast    
Reiko Aylesworth
Shareeka Epps
Gina Holden
David Hornsby
Johnny Lewis
John Ortiz
Steven Pasquale
Ariel Gade
David Paetkau
Juan Riedinger
Rainbow Francks
Sam Trammell
Kristen Hager
Meshach Peters
Ty Olsson
Ryan Robbins
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Kelly O'Brien
Kendra
Carrie Adams
Drew
Ricky Howard
Sheriff Morales
Dallas Howard
Molly O'Brien
Dale Post
Scotty
Earl
Tim O'Brien
Jesse
Curtis
Nathan Post
Trucker

Storyline

The storyline of AvP2 still hasn't been officially released - however, it's clear that the film takes place in a small town where aliens and predators cause mayhem. The film is also set in present time - most likely straight after the first film.

Name

Fox haven't officially announced the title of AvP2 yet but it was first rumoured to be AvP: The Survival of the Fittest. Combined with the fact Fox have registered that domain name and in the AICN script review, there's a scene where a teacher writes the name on a blackboard. It could also be AvP2: Alien vs Predator or Alien vs Predator: AvP2. Here's a fan-made logo similar to the director's version when they made their pitch to direct AvP2.


Photoshop render of a possible AvP2 logo. Credit to Hudson.

Release Date

AvP2 was originally set for an August 2007 release, however it has since been pushed back to December 2007. It's apparently still to be decided. Currently, the US release is December 25, 2007 and the UK release is January 4, 2008 according to IMDB. I personally think they'll bring the release forward because premiering a horror film on Christmas Day is pretty much commercial suicide.

Rating

Fox chairman Tom Rothman confirmed in September 2006 that AvP2 will be rated R; it will be very hardcore. Both of the directors have also stated that AvP2 will be R rated many times over the last few months.

Directors

Fox hired two new directors for AvP2 - Greg and Colin Strause. They are a directing duo and special effects artists. In 1995, they moved from Chicago to Los Angeles and started working on the special effects for The X-Files. Then then moved onto bigger films such as The Nutty Professor, Volcano, and Titanic. They then broke into the music video and commercial arena, handling the special effects for artists such as U2, Britney Spears, and Aerosmith. Greg and Colin's visual effects company Hydraulx has worked on big films like X-Men: The Last Stand, Fantastic Four, Terminator 3, and The Day After Tomorrow. The Brothers have recently directed ads for Coca Cola as well as many others. In 2004, they worked with artist Christian Jankowski on a short film called 16mm Mystery. In June 2006, they were chosen to direct AvP2.

AICN Script Review

For the people that don't know, AICN reviewed an early draft of the script in April 2006. The script was written by Shane Salerno and dated December 2005. AICN heavily criticised the script. After the review had been published, Fox ordered AICN to take down the review to which they complied. It was set in Texas but had the same premise. Aliens and Predators come to a small town. It's not known how much the shooting script has changed since this script review. The location has obviously changed since they're shooting in Canada. The directors have confirmed there will be no fight-scene in K-Mart, however I suspect a lot of material still remains such as characters and other scenes. Apparently, the script has been re-written 2-3 times since then.

Aliens

     
  • Alien Queen - It's unknown whether the Queen will  be in AvP2 or not. In our interview with puppeteer Morris Chapdelaine, he said he didn't get to work on the Queen but didn't specifically say it wasn't in AvP2 either.
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  • Alien Hybrids - There may possibly be other hybrid aliens in AvP2 based on what Morris Chapdelaine said in our interview. He told us that he was able to work on more creatures (other than Facehuggers, Chestbursters, Aliens etc) and that there was a large variety of creature work in the film.
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  • Predalien - A Predalien hasn't been officially confirmed but it's obvious it will be in AvP2. Morris Chapdelaine told us he worked on a hydraulic puppet. He found the size and life-like qualities of it incredible and it took 7-8 people to bring it to life. He said it was also very new to the franchise. At a convention earlier this year, Ian Whyte and Tom Woodruff were asked directly if there will be a Predalien but they weren't allowed to answer the question. At a Fangoria convention (19-May-07), Tom Woodruff mentioned a new monster makes its way into the hospital - he was possibly referring to the Predalien.

Predator

     
  • Experienced Predator - Ian Whyte and the directors have said that this will be an experienced, wiser and older Predator.
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  • Predator Suit - Ian Whyte told us that the Predator suit is very athletic in appearance and not as bulky as the ones in AvP. Apart from little design stylisations to make the character unique, the new costume is entirely reminiscent of the original.
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  • One Predator - It's already been established that there will be only one Predator in AvP2. At least for the main part of the film.

Other Interesting Notes

  • Underwater Scene - A couple of underwater camera operators worked on AvP2. There will definitely be an underwater sequence that involves "mayhem, carnage and people dying."
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  • Sewers - A picture from the ADI Effects Book showed a Predator in the sewer.
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  • Hospital Scene - I received some information about an hospital scene in AvP2. Many people start coming into the hospital who are hurt or have been killed while the Alien(s) and Predator were doing battle somewhere else in town. In another scene, the Alien(s) and Predator find themselves on the parking lot in front of the hospital and cause a lot more damage. Vehicles, Ambulances are destroyed and many more people are hurt. A few armoured vehicles appear but they came too late and the creatures have disappeared.
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  • Rooftop Battle - According to Morris Chapdelaine, there will be an action sequence on a rooftop with lots of creatures. They worked on it for over two weeks. He said it was his favourite scene because of the sheer number of creatures involved and also because of the tense nature of the sequence and the choreography of the fighting. There will be stuff we've never seen before - weapons and gadgets and hand to hand combat.

Director Comments

The Strause Brothers frequently visit the AvP2 Boards on IMDB and AvPGalaxy to post things. Here's a few interesting points they've touched on.

       
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    •        Colour - The Aliens are blackish-silver.
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    • CGI Aliens - There will be a few fully CGI aliens but a lot of the time it will be Tom Woodruff in a suit with a CGI tail.
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    • Daylight - We won't be seeing any aliens in the daylight.
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    • Predator Weapons/Equipment - The Predator will get some new weapons/equipment. He will most likely have acid proof armour/weapons. The Predator wristblades will be like the original and not as long as they were in AvP. The Predator's thermal vision will definitely be blue and not orange like in AvP. The Predator will also have some new vision modes.
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    • Predator Designs - The Predator's face was re-designed completely and is made out of silicon as opposed to foam to make the Predator more realistic. It's also fully animatronic.
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    • Predator Ship - The Strause Brothers like the Predator 2-style ship.
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    • Cloaking - The Predator can't cloak in the rain but there will be plenty of times where he will cloak.
       
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  • Storyboards - Talented comic-book artists were hired to help the directors with their storyboards. They also did CGI pre-vis for the big sequences and pre-edited a huge portion of the film before they started filming.
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  • Music - The score will be orchestral.
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  • Sound Effects - Similar Alien/Predator sound effects to the originals.
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  • AvP3 - The Strause Brothers did a pitch for AvP2 that was set in space. They are saving this idea for the future.
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  • Deaths - There will be some "pretty nasty" deaths in AvP2.
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  • Length - Colin Strause said that the length of AvP2 will be around the same length of Predator which was 100-108 minutes.
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  • No Matrix Shots - There will be no matrix-style shots in AvP2 a la AvP.
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  • Cinematographer - Daniel Pearl was at the top of the director's lists. They are big fans of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre films which Daniel Pearl worked on.
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  • Lighting - The rule is to backlight everything which makes it easy to hide the creatures in the background. Every shot has either rain, fog, steam, haze, etc to give footage the depth.
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  • Continuity - The directors are aware of continuity concerns. They respect canon and won't break anything that happens in the Alien Timeline.

Articles

Links

AvPGalaxy Interview #1 - With Amalgamated Dynamics.
AvPGalaxy Interview #2 - With puppeteer Morris Chapdelaine.
AvPGalaxy Interview #3 - With actor Ian Whyte.
AvPGalaxy Interview #4 - With second unit director Jeff Habberstad.


The Ultimate Predator

The Ultimate Predator

#1
Nice compilation.  ;D

XxSaNdMaNxX

XxSaNdMaNxX

#2
yes yes lets just hope N wait to c wah the brothers can pullout of this  ;D

Mr. Weyland

Mr. Weyland

#3
I heard rumor of a crashed Predator ship in the movie?  :o

VenomX

VenomX

#4
I think this *could* possibly turn out fairly allright after all, depending of course on about a billion little factors. I don't really have any hope for it being as good as any of the movies before AvP, but maybe this sequel can still top the first AvP, especially if that quote from the Fox dude stays true.

Have to look into what these guys have directed before more specifically I think, view some of those music videos.  :)

The Ultimate Predator

The Ultimate Predator

#5
They could, they've made some good music videos that have won awards.

ShadowPred

ShadowPred

#6
They just wrapped up on the movie and are just getting started on editing

Corporal Hicks

Corporal Hicks

#7
Somewhat fast production. Although I'm still worried by Fox's reluctance to give us anything. I'm getting flashbacks to Fox not allowing press screenings.  :-\

The Ultimate Predator

The Ultimate Predator

#8
Could be, or they might have something really good that they don't want everyone to know about. If they thought it wasn't going to get a good reception, they'd be bigging it up to get as many people to go and see it.

G.C. Samaras

G.C. Samaras

#9
Is the release date on 10th December 2007 for sure? I am just asking this because people on my MSN list have been telling me that it might be Summer 2007/2008. I was just wondering if anyone can clarify this for me.

Darkness

Darkness

#10
It's not definite yet. It definitely won't be 2008. I don't see why they would have such a long post-production process.

Newsfop

Newsfop

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Quote from: Darkness on Dec 15, 2006, 08:12:23 AM
It's not definite yet. It definitely won't be 2008. I don't see why they would have such a long post-production process.

For big budget bangers like Lucasfilm and Dreamworks, post production is a whiz. However you have to consider the aspect that all the digital effects placed in after the shooting takes a bit longer for film companies that have less than the usual experience. I'd much rather them take all the time they need then have stuff ending up looking like the effects in The Mummy Returns.

And as for the return of Lance Henrikson? The man was the CEO of a gigantic organization. It's probably more than likely that he's recorded a video message or two in his lifetime. He's got a legacy that will go on. And I'm going to throw out the great movie cliché that has possibly crossed a mind or two. The Weyland company might also be run by twin brothers. Is it a good idea? No. But that's an option.

topman

topman

#12
well im just hoping that this movie is a lot better than the first one. ;D
dont know about it topping the previous alien movies and predator movie (well maiinly Alien and Aliens!!) ;D

Thundercracker

Thundercracker

#13
Imo NOTHING can top the first Predator movie.

CPL HICKS

CPL HICKS

#14
Sounds not so great already, Aliens and Predators, wreaking havoc in a small town.
You gotta be kiddin me, how can you have a survival of the fittest in a small town?
Hopefully nothing like that small town that get's taken over in 5 minutes by the 3 arch villians in Superman 2. What will they do throw rocks and spit chewing tobacco at each other.
You always want the next movie to be better.
AVP was pretty solid holding true to both the Alien, and Predator side.
I know they can come up with better than that, or can they???

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