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What for and why is there a giant head..?

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Malakak:
I have to leave you in the dark to a certain extent, like David does, but at the same time I have to reveal things in such a way that very few know what I'm really talking about yet.  Fox will try to shoehorn a King alien into the new mythos to tie into the king and line of succession themes already established.  The mythological frameworks they're referencing and the recurring themes  + a little extra info makes it easier to see where this is all leading. I can't reveal everything so I'm being deliberately ambiguous and adding in multiple hidden meanings like David, and the filmmakers do. And the movie itself to a certain extent as well.

jonc2006:

--- Quote from: Malakak on Aug 16, 2012, 09:11:47 PM ---I believe the head was a past king who led them into a war with the true gods of us and them, the ones that Shaw was wondering about. Head=king in the recurring themes within the movie. Weyland is the head/king of his company/kingdom.

Yutani is another kingdom that will recombine with the now crumbling Weyland kingdom, as it starts to disintegrate and morph from its original from without the guidance of an intelligent head.  Now holding the goo/bio-weapon in mind which forces it to breakdown and recombine with Yutani to create a new entity: The Weyland-Yutani Empire.  This all happens after David, the surviving "head" of the company is reattached to the body of the company with new goals in mind.  The past Engineer king led the kingdom into a rebellion against the heavens and then died. Leaving the kingdom to inevitably change after the kings death.  The engineers who followed this king against the other Elders have been left to their own devices after the king died. That king had weaponized the fire further to use against the true gods above, and humans below. As David will do...

 The Engineers started emulating the past king just as much as they emulate the true gods by attempting to punish worlds in their own way.  They became even more warlike over time because of the influence of this past head of their civilization.  A past king who wanted freedom from the Elders, but it only led to his death and the stagnation of the Engineer culture after the Engineers created their weaponized form of the fire based on the original xeno genetics. The genetics grew out of control because the Engineers kept becoming more warlike and increasing the ratio of xeno genetics to goo. Now the xeno genetics have taken over and are returning to their pure form. However, it is a deadlier, different form of the fire like Napalm or something because it has carried over traits from the goo (because of the original morphing based cycle the Engineers didn't know would bite them in the ass because of the way it was eventually able to overcome the goo that used to preserve it, thanks to the Engineers weaponizing it further)

Zeus would be mad about the Engineers weaponizing the fire in such a way because the xeno genetics can now breakdown, morph and mutate things, and reproduce even easier because the goo traits give the morphing cycle an extra edge this time.  It's like the fire in the myth, it can be used multiple ways. The form at the beginning was the non weaponized form used to create new life.  However, Zeus didn't have to step in and punish them this time because they played with the fire and burnt themselves in the ass.  Kind of like the Atlanteans who were messing with genetics, creating hybrid fish people and other hybrid monsters, and had a hand in the creation of earlier rounds of humans.

The Atlanteans sunk their own Paradise civilization on Earth when they weaponized the fire and caused a massive outbreak at the same time as offending those above.  So they were allowed to sink back into the ocean.. some survived and resurfaced... some resurfaced as us...  The first things to crawl out of the ocean after the opening scenes are the ancestors of the Engineers who were living with us in the golden age, and visiting us the whole time afterwards.  They never really strayed too far from their Earth colony, but were kicked out of their Paradise here and on other worlds.  While humans got to live on the Earth and become the new kings of the kingdom, even though the Garden we had originally shared with the first Engineers had been destroyed by the God class above. To prevent us from ever getting the fire/knowledge about the fire.

After we started listening to a serpent worshiping race that lived in the Garden during this golden age.  The serpent was driven out of the garden and the garden destroyed.  But the serpents who survived worldwide cataclysms and their own plague keep returning to their previous kingdom, to lead us their little brothers to knowledge about the true fathers/creators.  However, this is only a trick because they hate and try to kill the father for his past punishment, feel we should be punished too... and wish to only lead us to knowledge to deceive us and involve us in their war against the father/true creators.  Wishing to use us as merely part of the bio-weapon they acquired and manipulated to fight fire with fire, before it backfired on them.  They don't know the true danger of the almost undying Deacon form that morphs into and protects the King alien form now... a form that exclusively uses the morphing based lifecycle from the original. But is much different now.  We've never seen a king before because they only appear when there's a single alien and they have to reproduce in the morphing method, before full eggs come into play. A king has his reign and then he dies, and then the queens/eggs and aliens we've seen so far take their reign.  But like I said this is a deadlier form of the fire that has lots of the goo traits. The king genetics might not move towards the hive/queen/eggs until it has to, and it won't die like it may have been supposed to before. Tying into all the king/line of succession themes and the male patriarchy theme in Weyland's preference of David over Vickers. The King is gone before full eggs/hive and a queen comes into play and uses the morphing reproduction.  When the queen, the new ruler rises, it changes up the whole body of the kingdom/hive/culture. And even influences the subjects to change and mainly be sexless at first.  Bringing it back to the fact that androids can't reproduce and we've only seen male Engineers so far..



Showing Zeus that the later humans can't be allowed to have knowledge about the fire. Prometheus thinks we should at least be given the technology the Atlanteans were so he steals some of it, but Zeus still thinks we'll find a way to turn on him as his brother Poseidon, the Atlantean king did i.e. the Engineers did.  They are not gods. They aren't even the god class. We've been misled, or deliberately left in the dark, on many, many things.

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Where in the world did you get all that from?

Malakak:
i used to be an analyst and i know a lot about mythology. I also personally know anthropologists that did some consulting in the very beginning before the plan changed from the two-parter. Things haven't changed too much, they've only been shuffled to the encore, where the artists will play some of the best old songs in a new lineup.

 This was like a concert where we just saw them play all the new stuff.  People still want to hear the old hits and get satisfaction but we won't get our Satisfaction until the end, after the main show seems to be over. we'll continue to see hints of the new sound in the new versions of their old hits which will appear prominently in the encore.

It's all about the recurring themes and the framework it creates that intersects with what they're referencing from multiple world mythologies.  This allows you to predict what may happen if you have extra info like the info I've received from my consultant friends. Plus i've seen alternate versions of some scenes already myself that will be on the blu-ray. Also I've heard about what happens in that 5 min Paradise clip that will be on the bluray. I'm only hinting at it with all the David being misguided stuff.

Salt The Fries:
Your mind is terrifyingly meticulous.

Malakak:
I only tapped into some of the repeating themes from the myths and series itself to attempt to figure some things out.  All of the intelligent people here and on Prometheus-movie.com helped me figure some of the details out by analyzing how those theories might connect to the overall structure and things i know about. which is why everything in my full theory connects to the themes and even to certain ambiguous statements the filmmakers have made so they can do what the movie does.  Remain ambiguous.

Hiding the real meaning behind multiple meanings. David does this in many, if not maybe all of his lines in the movie.  He's like Pinocchio in more ways than one, he's not just a puppet. He also can't tell a lie because of built in feelings of guilt (for his own actions and Weyland's programming), but has found ways around this and deceives people by revealing partial truths to gain their permission and direct things. He's an actor and is preparing for a big role. He not only wants to be human, he wants to be the new human, he feels he's superior to humans and may want to lead them. This is hidden very well in the film behind his subconscious desire, or "dream" to kill the creator/king. Which also ties back into my theories about the Engineers.  David questions if everyone dreams of killing their creators, and this is related to the idea that the Engineers rebelled against the Elders under the leadership of a warmongering king.  There's more to David's obsession with Lawrence of Arabia too, he feels he may need to unite groups against an Empire like what happens in the movie. Studies and prepares, learns about the culture(s) like in the movie.

Also interesting to note are the multiple groups and factions in Lawrence of Arabia and how David is emulating Lawrence. Prometheus was all David's trick, he knows more that he's not telling from cross-analyzing all the myths (suspected they were not gods but allows Weyland to keep believing this). And he didn't mind that the trick hurt because he's near immortal and ended up surviving. Has found a way to cover up his true feelings..

 He's always making ambiguous statements and it was planned that way for the movie to be an extension of what David is doing.
Telling the truth and covering things up at the same time. "I didn't know you had it in you".  "Clearly a superior species"... to humans.  He gets away with covering things up by being ambiguous and trying to make the characters think he's referring to something else.

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