Topic: Ridley Scott says Prometheus is not a prequel to Alien

[Predaker]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18298709

[ShadowPred]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18298709

He's out of his f**king mind.

[AmazSpiderMan1]

Yeah, he's nuts. I love how we thought this film would be like the second coming of Christ, but it's become such a cluster f**k of confusion. Thank you Ridley and Lindelof for making some ambiguous odd creation of an "Alien" movie. So should it not be included in a box set if the director himself says it's not related to the series?

[ShadowPred]

FOX won't care, they'll include it in the box set.

[Darth Vile]

This is old new isn't it. And I agree with Scott, it's not really a prequel although it's clearly connected.

[RagingDragon]

No, it's not.  There was nothing out of Alien, if you didn't notice the quick few-second mural, to connect this with Alien, and that was Ridley's entire purpose....

[DJ Pu$$yface]

Only connection really was the Engineers and the mural.

[Vickers]

I'm going to get flamed for saying this but I think Ridley is feeling embarrassed because the film isn't as epic and scary as he was promising it would be.  Is it a failure?  Not by any means - a lot of people actually love it and it's doing well in the box office considering it's an R-rated film.  But by disassociating the film with the Alien franchise, he doesn't have to feel as embarrassed about it's relation to the franchise.

But let's be honest - if he really didn't want it to have anything to do with the franchise, why the f**k would he include those few elements?

First I remember him saying that this isn't the film that ties directly into Alien, but it is a prequel.  Then the cast were switching back and forth between it being a prequel and not being a prequel.  Then they were all saying it's a prequel but not in the strict sense of the end scene tying in with the beginning of Alien.  I don't even know if they're sure what to call it anymore.

So Ridley, this isn't a prequel.  Then what the f**k was that Space Jockey chair and suit doing there?  What the f**k was that mural and Deacon chestburster all about?  Why were you trying to rival the chestburster scene?  Why was Weyland involved?  I could go on but I'm tired of this crap.

[RoaryUK]

Yes this is old news, I posted the interview the day it came out.  Scott never actually says Prometheus isn't an Alien prequel, just that it isn't 'directly connected', then as if to confuse the issue further he confirms, "we still have Prometheus 1 and 2 before we even get to Alien 1".  He also suggested in this interview there was more to the film he wanted to add, something he later denies for whatever reason...so I guess it's go figure time!   

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=43898.msg1388915#msg1388915

[RagingDragon]

I'm going to get flamed for saying this but I think Ridley is feeling embarrassed because the film isn't as epic and scary as he was promising it would be.  Is it a failure?  Not by any means - a lot of people actually love it and it's doing well in the box office considering it's an R-rated film.  But by disassociating the film with the Alien franchise, he doesn't have to feel as embarrassed about it's relation to the franchise.

But let's be honest - if he really didn't want it to have anything to do with the franchise, why the f**k would he include those few elements?

First I remember him saying that this isn't the film that ties directly into Alien, but it is a prequel.  Then the cast were switching back and forth between it being a prequel and not being a prequel.  Then they were all saying it's a prequel but not in the strict sense of the end scene tying in with the beginning of Alien.  I don't even know if they're sure what to call it anymore.

So Ridley, this isn't a prequel.  Then what the f**k was that Space Jockey chair and suit doing there?  What the f**k was that mural and Deacon chestburster all about?  Why were you trying to rival the chestburster scene?  Why was Weyland involved?  I could go on but I'm tired of this crap.

Vicky has it, that's it.

Thread end.

[Highland]

But by disassociating the film with the Alien franchise, he doesn't have to feel as embarrassed about it's relation to the franchise.

Why would he be embarrassed? The best part of the entire franchise is the movie he made. He started the whole thing. It's not even in the franchise either so it doesn't even matter.

Does not compute.....

Maybe he's embarrassed about the number of retarded threads that have been made on AVP galaxy?

[zoidy]

So Ridley, this isn't a prequel.  Then what the f**k was that Space Jockey chair and suit doing there?  What the f**k was that mural and Deacon chestburster all about?  Why were you trying to rival the chestburster scene?  Why was Weyland involved?  I could go on but I'm tired of this crap.

You didnt listen to the interview on the bbc page, did you? He fecking explains. It's not a prequel to Alien, but it IS about the jockey. Thats the whole point. And he explicitly says it's not a direct prequel, but there might be two more films which might lead to what we see in Alien.

And this interview is from before the release.

Why are people desperate to create controversy where none exists? This place is like a tabloid newspaper, populated by 13 year old children.

[Vickers]

So Ridley, this isn't a prequel.  Then what the f**k was that Space Jockey chair and suit doing there?  What the f**k was that mural and Deacon chestburster all about?  Why were you trying to rival the chestburster scene?  Why was Weyland involved?  I could go on but I'm tired of this crap.

You didnt listen to the interview on the bbc page, did you? He fecking explains. It's not a prequel to Alien, but it IS about the jockey. Thats the whole point. And he explicitly says it's not a direct prequel, but there might be two more films which might lead to what we see in Alien.

And this interview is from before the release.

Why are people desperate to create controversy where none exists? This place is like a tabloid newspaper, populated by 13 year old children.

Oh, I'm not desperate to create controversy.  The film did this on its own.

[Gazz]

This has nothing to do with Ridley feeling "embarrassed" as he's been saying pretty much the same thing throughout the film's production. And I really don't see how you've jumped to that conclusion with no more evidence or reasoning beyond "Well I didn't find the movie epic or scary as promised so Ridley must be embarrassed by it!". Also note that this interview was conducted on the day of Prometheus' release, before any public opinion had formed.

Nonetheless, in all interviews I've read/ heard (including the BBC one above) Ridley and Damon have always stressed that it's not a direct tie in to Alien or a prequel in the sense that it leads in to that film. Instead Prometheus is a prequel in the sense that the events take place at a earlier period in the same universe. And of course there was confusion in the lead up. I imagine it was incredibly orchestrated confusion and chaos designed to drum up some publicity (like what Abrams is doing with Star Trek 2 at the moment). Now the film is out it frees the cast and crew to say exactly what the film is.

I think people need to actually listen to the interview before flying off the handle. It's really nothing we haven't already heard and discussed.

[Vickers]

It was my opinion and I wasn't forcing it on to anybody and claiming it as a fact.  And I'm not flying off the handle.  I think Ridley hasn't lived up to his promises.