Topic: Ridley Scott Explains the Alien Connection

[RakaiThwei]

I am not sure if there is already a thread dedicated to this, but someone had just linked this to me. If there is already a thread with this link and the quotations I am about to provide, please then-- delete this thread and everything within it or merge it with the other topic that discusses this. Thank you.

-Rakai'Thwei

Scott: For all intents and purposes this is very loosely a prequel, very, and then you say “But how did that ship evolve into the first Alien?” Then I would say “Actually he’s one of the group that had gone off and his cargo had gotten out of control,” because he was heading somewhere else and it got out of control and actually he had died in the process and that would be the story there. That ship happened to be a brother to the ship that you see that comes out of the ground at the end. They are roughly of the same period give or take a couple hundred years, right?

    Other than that, there’s no real link except it explains I think who may have had these capabilities, which are dreadful weapons way beyond anything we could possibly conceive, bacteriological drums of shit that you can drop on a planet and the planet… Do you know anything about bacteria? If you take a teaspoon and drop it in the biggest reservoir in London, which also scares the shit out of me, and amazes me that there are not huge guards around it… That’s the way to do it. You don’t do 9/11, you just get a teaspoon of bacteria, drop it in, and eight days later the water is clean and then suddenly on the eighth day the water goes dense and cloudy, but by then it’s been sent to every home and several million people have drunk it, you’ve got bubonic. It’s that simple.

    That’s how scary it is, so these evolutions of these guys who have watched developing DNA, it’s like “How can DNA change that quickly, sitting in front of me on a table…” That’s because your mind doesn’t allow you to accept that that may be feasible, that’s the deal. In the same way that we have been here three billion years, we know we’ve been… The Gulf of Mexico they believe is a huge asteroid. That was an impact zone, you know that? Yeah, for that big a thing to actually hit our globe, it would have had to adjust the spin, the axis. That probably created the first massive cataclysmic thing which took away all of the dinosaurs, so that after that you’re left with water, that’s why the Grand Canyon was a sea and it is now a dry valley.

Source: http://screenrant.com/prometheus-alien-connection-benk-176223/all/1/

[Cvalda]

...my brain hurt reading that Ridley's, uh, getting a bit foggy upstairs as the years wear on.

[RakaiThwei]

...my brain hurt reading that Ridley's, uh, getting a bit foggy upstairs as the years wear on.

A friend of mine read that as explaining that the Xenomorphs have been around long before the events of Prometheus.

After reading that, I am not even sure if that is even a viable explanation of things and not even sure if that makes much sense or explains how the Xenomorphs were around before the events of Prometheus.

-Rakai'Thwei

[Alienseseses]

I thought it was clear.

1. Derelict in Alien is a brother ship to the one we see here, and it crashed thousands of years ago.
2. All this does as a prequel is explain that the jockeys have bio-weapons, which are scary
3. We were hit by a meteor once. Okay, I don't know where he was going with that.

After reading that, I am not even sure if that is even a viable explanation of things and not even sure if that makes much sense or explains how the Xenomorphs were around before the events of Prometheus.

Why not? Nothing in Prometheus precludes the prior existence of Aliens. We saw other, similar monsters. Not the alien's origin.

[RakaiThwei]

1. Derelict in Alien is a brother ship to the one we see here, and it crashed thousands of years ago.

So you're saying that the Jockey ship on LV-426 preceeds the events in 2094 by thousands of years instead of hundreds? And that the Xenomorphs might have long since existed prior to that?

2. All this does as a prequel is explain that the jockeys have bio-weapons, which are scary

I can buy that.

Why not? Nothing in Prometheus precludes the prior existence of Aliens. We saw other, similar monsters. Not the alien's origin.

Well, since you put that way... I guess I can understand it... I am no Xenomorph expert, nor am I much of an Alien fan as I am of Predator but if you present it like that, I suppose it does clear things up a bit for me.

-Rakai'Thwei

[Alienseseses]

1. Derelict in Alien is a brother ship to the one we see here, and it crashed thousands of years ago.

So you're saying that the Jockey ship on LV-426 preceeds the events in 2094 by thousands of years instead of hundreds? And that the Xenomorphs might have long since existed prior to that?

That's what he's implying here:

“But how did that ship evolve into the first Alien?” Then I would say “Actually he’s one of the group that had gone off and his cargo had gotten out of control,” because he was heading somewhere else and it got out of control and actually he had died in the process and that would be the story there. That ship happened to be a brother to the ship that you see that comes out of the ground at the end. They are roughly of the same period give or take a couple hundred years, right?

[AsapJockey]

Well hes basically saying, 2000 years ago one of the juggernauts left with the urns as well, landed on lv-426 cuz he got facehugged..QUEEN came out and laid eggs in the cargo area...end of story. Everything is solved, now on to the new xenomorphs and exploring more of the space jockey culture.

[Xenomorphine]

[Alienseseses]

Well hes basically saying, 2000 years ago one of the juggernauts left with the urns as well, landed on lv-426 cuz he got facehugged..QUEEN came out and laid eggs in the cargo area...end of story.

Or something. Maybe the eggs were the cargo, a different weapon than the urns. Who knows. It doesn't really matter.

Yes. Yes, it is, indeed, heavy.

[RakaiThwei]

I know Alienseseses (I have a hard time pronouncing that) kind of explained it to me but damn... this just makes my head f**king hurt just trying to visualize and explain it. God damn....

-Rakai'Thwei

[The Hyena]

...my brain hurt reading that Ridley's, uh, getting a bit foggy upstairs as the years wear on.

Its actually quite clear to those who can think.  The LV-426 ship came from the facility.

As for his Bioweapons rambling, he is correct.  Dumping bacteria into drinking supplies IS a very dangerous method of attack.

[Alienseseses]

Timeline:
2000 years ago, Engineers are tinkering on LV-223 with bioweapons.
Meanwhile, in space, a Space Jockey, flying with a cargo of eggs, gets facehugged, crashes on LV-426.
Back on LV-223, there's a bioweapon outbreak.

2000 years later.

Space jockey ship on LV-426 is still crashed.
Prometheus lands on LV-223.

Years later.

Nostromo picks up signal from LV-426.



Prometheus isn't a prequel in that sense. It's its own story in the same universe.

[RakaiThwei]

Its actually quite clear to those who can think.  The LV-426 ship came from the facility.

I know your post was to Cvalda, but here on my end, it's 4:00 AM in the morning and I probably need sleep in order to process this more. I mean I got what Scott said but just trying to play it out in my head.

Timeline:
2000 years ago, Engineers are tinkering on LV-223 with bioweapons.
Meanwhile, in space, a Space Jockey, flying with a cargo of eggs, gets facehugged, crashes on LV-426.
Back on LV-223, there's a bioweapon outbreak.

So you're saying that more than likely, the Xenomorphs might have existed longer, and might've been some other project. Okay... I can buy that.

-Rakai'Thwei

[Uncanny Psycho]

This movie should have been marketed as a spin-off, not a prequel!

[Alienseseses]

Was it marketed as a prequel? It seemed try were marketing it as 'from the director of Alien.'

We saw the derelict and assumed prequel.