Quote from: Face Jockey on Mar 20, 2012, 12:47:30 AMIn the Prometheus trailers we see both the Jockey ship AND Prometheus crashing, but as somebody pointed out here, on LV-426 in Alien there is no sign of the wreckage of Prometheus. Also there is no sign of many of the other things shown in the trailer such as the pyramid (with other Jockey suits), the area where the ground opened up that we see the Jockey ship both launching from and then crash-landing nearby.
agreed. notably, however, there was
supposed to be a pyramid in the original
alien. i think the similarity here is more likely a sign of ridley scott recycling an unused idea than anything else.
Quote from: Face Jockey on Mar 20, 2012, 12:47:30 AMThere's no reason why it couldn't be a different Jockey ship, and we probably will be left to guess why the original one in Alien was where it is and that one could have been there for centuries.
from a movie-making perspective, especially after all the talk, i just can't see ridley scott ham-fistedly setting up the original movie. it's boring, contrived, and we all know where it's going. it spoils some of
alien as well. it doesn't seem like his style, and he's spoken against it a few times, i think. he's also said that if a sequel were made, it wouldn't be
alien.
Quote from: Face Jockey on Mar 20, 2012, 12:47:30 AMThe Weyland timeline does seem to make it clear that they are either elsewhere on LV-426 specifically, or a nearby moon. It's possible the original discovery of LV-426 was related to the beacon from the original derelict, but at a different coordinate or even different moon than Prometheus visits.
i think they threw it in for shits and giggles. and it's promotional material, not canon. they misspelled "acheron" for godsakes. and "acheron" isn't even the canon name of the moon, either. it was the name the colonists dubbed it, in the
novelization of
aliens by alan dean foster. it wouldn't have been called that prior to the colonists arriving -- all the company people, even in the book, call it "LV-426". to my knowledge, it doesn't appear in the movies at all.
Quote from: SM on Mar 20, 2012, 12:50:57 AMI'm not keeping up on the endless and ultimately fruitless speculation, but has the constellation been identified?
no, but that's my hope. if it's in a different system entirely, we can probably rule out LV-426. unless the people making the movie really, really screwed up.
Quote from: SM on Mar 20, 2012, 12:50:57 AMAt a quick glance it looks like part of Ursa Major with the dude pointing to Dubhe (aka Alpha Ursae Majoris). It's visible in northern and southern hemispheres so would correllate with it being present n a bunch of different civilisations world wide. However it is a binary system, and I can't recall seeing more than one sun in the trailers.
i agree, that looks like a good candidate. the pictograms match up pretty closely (beta is out of place), but chi and beta both seem to move between the pictograms and the actual star chart, in the trailer. which is odd.