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Re: Possible Creature and plot point spo...
« Reply #15 on: Feb 21, 2012, 09:41:42 AM »
I think the guy is mistaken, here's my take on things;

1, The ship lands a mile or so away from the structure (for safety?).

2, An exploratory team of Shaw, David, Mudow, Holloway and two others travel to the structure in one 8-wheeler and the two single seat buggys. There may be more in the team, perhaps someone stays with the vehicles and presumably they would have some muscle accompanying the scientists so maybe one of the six is a mercenary?

3, The six find a cave-like entrance leading to a tunnel.

4, The follow the tunnels until they reach a door in the side which leads to the ampule room, as they walk in they can see the back of the head statue. The air in this room is breathable so they remove their helmets.

5, The split up and explore the room, David examines the ampules and 'may' remove one at this point.

6, At the far end of the room they come across another door; heavy and metal, when open it slides up into the wall. Here they find the decapitated SJ. Shaw and Mudow examine the head (has it been decapitated by the door?).

7, Going through this door they quickly (in the space of a few metres) come across the great stone outer door. They don helmets, open the door and venture outside.

8, Outside is a large hole in the ground. I believe that some of the crew lower themselves into this hole and that is when bad things happen (the architecture behind Hollaway when he starts to 'melt' seems to suggest he is back in the Ampule room at this point).

9, Shaw grabs the SJ head and places it into a sack.They rush back through the tunnels to their waiting vehicles.

10, They rush back to the Prometheus, the head falls off Shaw's buggy and she goes back to get it when she is blown away by the sandstorm/explosion.
« Last Edit: Feb 21, 2012, 09:52:17 AM by bunnyavpg »

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Re: Possible Creature and plot point spo...
« Reply #16 on: Feb 21, 2012, 12:48:04 PM »
Mutants. Aren't. Scary.

FFS

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Re: Possible Creature and plot point spo...
« Reply #17 on: Feb 21, 2012, 12:48:19 PM »
We see the prometheus crew with their helmets on and off alot on the planet we're assuming, and from the panoramic shot in the trailer the planet is very mountainous, maybe they wear the helmets to do with the planets altitude at certain levels, and the further they go into the tunnel and jockeys ampule room etc their suits readings tell them the altitude is safer for their bodies to tolerate. Or david being a synthetic dosen't get altitude sickness and tells the crew it's safe to take their helmets off?

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Re: Possible Creature and plot point spo...
« Reply #18 on: Feb 21, 2012, 01:09:26 PM »
We see the prometheus crew with their helmets on and off alot on the planet we're assuming, and from the panoramic shot in the trailer the planet is very mountainous, maybe they wear the helmets to do with the planets altitude at certain levels, and the further they go into the tunnel and jockeys ampule room etc their suits readings tell them the altitude is safer for their bodies to tolerate. Or david being a synthetic dosen't get altitude sickness and tells the crew it's safe to take their helmets off?

Ignoring some of the 'posed for the cameras' Promotional pics the crew wear their helmets in the garage pod (and adjoining rooms) of the Prometheus when landed, in the tunnels and near the hole. The only time they have their helmets off is in the Head/Ampule room and there are scenes in that room where they still have helmets on. I would guess that as this is apparently the only 'gigerised' room in the whole structure and it does have sealable doors that they enter the room, seal the doors and start some sort of atmosphere generating device. Unless it does it all automatically of course via motion detectors or suchlike.

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Re: Possible Creature and plot point spo...
« Reply #19 on: Feb 21, 2012, 01:49:43 PM »
Mutants. Aren't. Scary.

FFS

Agree 100 %

Also, interestingly the only scary/impressive/real, organic and fantastically believable alien creatures I've ever seen in any movie that I can think of are Giger's Alien, Giger's 'fossilized' (or not) SJ, the original facehugger and Stan Winston's Predator

So if we're going to see something(s) different, then Ridley and crew would have to present something pretty spectacular to even match the wow factor of those precedents.

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Re: Possible Creature and plot point spo...
« Reply #20 on: Feb 21, 2012, 01:54:52 PM »
So its like the reptile statue form Mortal Kombat the movie. lol

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Re: Possible Creature and plot point spo...
« Reply #21 on: Feb 21, 2012, 03:34:04 PM »
Mutants. Aren't. Scary.

FFS

Agree 100 %

Also, interestingly the only scary/impressive/real, organic and fantastically believable alien creatures I've ever seen in any movie that I can think of are Giger's Alien, Giger's 'fossilized' (or not) SJ, the original facehugger and Stan Winston's Predator

So if we're going to see something(s) different, then Ridley and crew would have to present something pretty spectacular to even match the wow factor of those precedents.

LOTR? Star Wars? I could go on.

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Re: Possible Creature and plot point spo...
« Reply #22 on: Feb 21, 2012, 04:26:00 PM »
Why can't 'mutation' be scary? Why can't it be made scary if done right? Cronenberg's The Fly anyone?

Unequivocally wrong on that one.

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Re: Possible Creature and plot point spo...
« Reply #23 on: Feb 21, 2012, 05:30:02 PM »
Mutants. Aren't. Scary.

FFS

Agree 100 %

Also, interestingly the only scary/impressive/real, organic and fantastically believable alien creatures I've ever seen in any movie that I can think of are Giger's Alien, Giger's 'fossilized' (or not) SJ, the original facehugger and Stan Winston's Predator

So if we're going to see something(s) different, then Ridley and crew would have to present something pretty spectacular to even match the wow factor of those precedents.

LOTR? Star Wars? I could go on.

Alien creatures in LOTR ??

I specified 'ALIEN' creatures because I wasnt talking about things like the very impressive velociraptors in the Jurassic Park movies or the fantasy creatures and characters in LOTR or anything else of that ilk.

While I thought the whole LOTR trilogy was absolutely fantastic and exhibited some truly excellent CGI effects, none of the 'fantastical' creatures in those movies (apart from the giant spider maybe) looked as real, as impressive, organic and believable up close n personal, in the same way that the Alien, the original facehugger or the fossilized SJ did.

The only creatures in Star Wars that arent bipedal or highly humanoid, obvious men in suits or the obviously cartoonish CGI of episodes I,II and III, that are impressively real............ are Banthas...........and theyre not really scary

Most of the other alien creatures in the early Star Wars movies look to be composed of very obvious rubber and/or plastic or like extras from The Muppet Show and are pretty comical looking.....certainly not 'real' or organic looking....e.g. Admiral Akbar, Greedo and almost everything in the bar in Mos Eisley, Salacious Crumb (Gonzo in drag), Nien Nunb.....I could go on

I guess you could say the Ewoks look convincingly real, but theyre hardly impressive or scary

You said you could 'go on', but so far youve only come up with vague references and not named one ALIEN creature from another movie that is as up close n personal, real looking (NOT CGI), organic looking and impressively unsettling and believable as the examples I cited.

I challenge you to name JUST ONE !!

I hope Ridley manages to pull this off, but based on the leaping mutant space redneck freak and the big, blue, CGI Dr Manhattan impersonator........it isnt looking promising

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Re: Possible Creature and plot point spo...
« Reply #24 on: Feb 21, 2012, 05:44:49 PM »
Why can't 'mutation' be scary? Why can't it be made scary if done right? Cronenberg's The Fly anyone?

Unequivocally wrong on that one.

The Fly was not a mutation, The Fly was the result of a combination of the fly and human, via a transporter accident. 

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Re: Possible Creature and plot point spo...
« Reply #25 on: Feb 21, 2012, 05:45:47 PM »
Why can't 'mutation' be scary? Why can't it be made scary if done right? Cronenberg's The Fly anyone?

Unequivocally wrong on that one.

While it was a good movie the mutation elements in The Fly werent scary to me at all, rather they were either comical or disgusting (and I dont equate disgusting with scary)

The Exorcist is the only movie that could be loosely termed 'mutation, albeit a temporary mutation, and genuinely frightening. Other than that....The Hills Have Eyes, Texas Chainsaw Massacre ??......forget it !!....unintentionally comical and ridiculous

Mutation just isnt really scary. Well not to me anyway.

The Thing (original, not the crap recent prequel), while a very good movie, wasnt scary because of the stomach churning mutations (which look dated and comical viewed today), but more due to the fear of the unknown and the inherent tension of not knowing who was human or otherwise.

The original Alien has aged incredibly well, especially when you think of the views of the creature you get just before Brett's demise and the closeup shots in the shuttle at the end. The Aliens in cameron's 'Aliens' arguably look even better than the original did.

It/they still look scary, real and organic (as did the facehugger and the dead SJ)

Apart from the original Predator, I cant think of a single other alien creature depicted on celluloid that has these qualities and is anywhere near as impressive..........and for me, human mutation just doesnt cut it.

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Re: Possible Creature and plot point spo...
« Reply #26 on: Feb 21, 2012, 05:49:01 PM »
Actually...when Goldblums body started changing, he became the very definition of cellular level mutation. It scared me...but why it scared me was because he was initially afraid, not knowing what was happening to his body.

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Re: Possible Creature and plot point spo...
« Reply #27 on: Feb 21, 2012, 05:54:29 PM »
I'm not disagreeing on the fact mutations can be scary. The only thought of, say, the fact the Mbwun from Relic was once a human is terribly unsettling.
I think people do not want mutations because it is not what they expect from a film that supposedly revolves around the Space Jockey, or the fact that they (arbitrarily, of course) associate the idea to (always arbitrarily) lower class films.
I myself do not mind the idea, though I still want to have genuinely otherwordly things as the main antagonists.
« Last Edit: Feb 21, 2012, 05:57:51 PM by OmegaZilla »

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Re: Possible Creature and plot point spo...
« Reply #28 on: Feb 21, 2012, 05:59:40 PM »
It's Ridley fu€kin Scott at the helm...and I believe that he can pull off what would be mundane B level tropes and bring them up to an A level standard. He did it with Alien...he used the classic 'man in a rubber suit' the synonymous B film trick and perfected it so that every creature film after Alien had a bar to live up to...not even guys at Amalgamted Dynmanics could pull off what he did.

Have a little faith maybe?

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Re: Possible Creature and plot point spo...
« Reply #29 on: Feb 21, 2012, 06:04:03 PM »
I'm I the only one that thinks that the 'money shot' in that gif (the opening and shooting out second) is two cleverly splice together frames that have little or nothing to do with each other in sequence.

It looks to me like the 'opening part' is separate because the background and surrounding edges completely change when the 'shooting out' part occurs.

It's something no doubt. But I think it's been spliced together to invoke an 'Alien moment.' An inner jaw moment that perhaps Ridley thought "went too far" in it's trickery to promise something Alien like.

 

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