http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vep18CsW5T0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vep18CsW5T0#ws)
At least one interesting difference.
HOLY SHIT! 4K resolution?!!! :o
Downloading now...
ARGH! Youtube lied to me! Quality is crap. >:(
This trailer is very different from the one back in march.
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 30, 2012, 03:13:30 PM
HOLY SHIT! 4K resolution?!!! :o
Downloading now...
ARGH! Youtube lied to me! Quality is crap. >:(
That's one. A couple scenes are edited.
I need to frame by frame it. the helmet thing....looks interesting
It's the launch trailer from yesterday with a couple of changes.
Okay, here's what's "new."
Shaw's belly swelling:
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Shaw getting attacked by something exiting a dead crewmember's mouth:
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OH f**k.... CHESTBURSTERS CONFIRMED! :o
edit: nope.... that thing is coming out from MOUTH :o
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 30, 2012, 03:22:30 PM
Okay, here's what's "new."
Shaw's belly swelling:
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Shaw getting attacked by something exiting a dead crewmember's mouth:
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The later one is exactly what I was about to post. Also, it looks like more tentacles might have been added to the "Birth" scene.
The mouth helmet one though, that is the money shot. And this is looking more and more like an "R" to me. Not to bring up the dreaded rating but if it got a PG-13 they are really lightening up on ratings.
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 30, 2012, 03:13:30 PM
HOLY SHIT! 4K resolution?!!! :o
Downloading now...
ARGH! Youtube lied to me! Quality is crap. >:(
Youtube has too much video's in horrible quality.
Quote from: CanisMajoris on Apr 30, 2012, 03:22:44 PM
OH f**k.... CHESTBURSTERS CONFIRMED! :o
edit: nope.... that thing is coming out from MOUTH :o
...which
could be a small nod to the xeno and its inner mouth shooting out from its outer mouth, right? ;)
Excellent find - we've seen so little and I'm really freaked out by melting heads, snakehuggers etc etc... This is going to be wonderfully terrifying ;D
Now I just can't believe that this will get PG13
DAT mouth scene! (imagine the Xeneak sliding in his/her esophagus and widening it while coming out (but it seems very slim tho...), or maybe it develops inside the skull :o )
This film looks pretty gross. :o
Quote from: Eva on Apr 30, 2012, 03:39:33 PM
Quote from: CanisMajoris on Apr 30, 2012, 03:22:44 PM
OH f**k.... CHESTBURSTERS CONFIRMED! :o
edit: nope.... that thing is coming out from MOUTH :o
...which could be a small nod to the xeno and its inner mouth shooting out from its outer mouth, right? ;)
Excellent find - we've seen so little and I'm really freaked out by melting heads, snakehuggers etc etc... This is going to be wonderfully terrifying ;D
Makes me wonder if Ash new about mouth bursters and that was why he was so adamant to get that spoon in Kane's mouth.
That thing that comes from his mouth is disgusting! It's vile to think about something crawling up out of your mouth!
Well assuming they don't cut a frame of the film (something I seem to remember hearing recently) then this is surely going to struggle to get anything other than R in US and probably a 15 in UK.
Fairly intense body horror has been impied all along but is clearly present from that trailer and that normally always pushes the rating up.
I actually ... wish I hadn't seen any of this new stuff :(
the more i see the more i feel i am ruining it for myself
Quote from: C91_SJ on Apr 30, 2012, 05:45:49 PM
Quote from: Eva on Apr 30, 2012, 03:39:33 PM
snakehuggers
best word creation 2012 ;D
Off to the reptile thread :D
The ratings issue is a US thing. It's pretty evident that it will get a 15/16 rating in Europe. In the US they don't have a rating that corresponds that well to 15 - it's either PG13 or R (17).
Don't blame the studios or the various filmmakers for this mess. Blame the MPAA...
We knew there were monsters. I don't feel ruined.
I can't see how the mouth thing and the melting man alone doesn't garner an R.
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 30, 2012, 05:50:54 PM
I actually ... wish I hadn't seen any of this new stuff :(
I feel ya, man. But I just can't find the will to stop myself. It's like heroin.
Space heroin.
Quote from: ucdom on Apr 30, 2012, 06:58:05 PM
Quote from: Ron Swanston on Apr 30, 2012, 05:47:37 PM
Quote from: C91_SJ on Apr 30, 2012, 05:45:49 PM
Quote from: Eva on Apr 30, 2012, 03:39:33 PM
snakehuggers
best word creation 2012 ;D
I still think assflower is a better description.
I quite like 'lunging clunge' which crossed my mind after someone posted butterfly vagina.
That's also great, very English.
I'd come up with another although it would probably be more offensive to the female members here than your example might already be.
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Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 30, 2012, 05:50:54 PM
I actually ... wish I hadn't seen any of this new stuff :(
I feel ya, man. But I just can't find the will to stop myself. It's like heroin.
Space heroin.
Spoiler
I tried to kick... but that shit just be callin' me man, it be callin' me, man... I just got to go to it!
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Fifield and Milburn gonna get there asses handed.
Dont understand why you wanna cuddle with a cobra white looking snake thing that swims around in black oil in a structure with on top a skull on a fckn alien planet,reach out and thouch. ::)
Quote from: Infected on Apr 30, 2012, 07:32:15 PM
Fifield and Milburn gonna get there asses handed.
Dont understand why you wanna cuddle with a cobra white looking snake thing that swims around in black oil in a structure with on top a skull on a fckn alien planet,reach out and thouch. ::)
Milburn is a Botanist. And Botanists are known for their fearlessness.
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Apr 30, 2012, 07:36:56 PM
Quote from: Infected on Apr 30, 2012, 07:32:15 PM
Fifield and Milburn gonna get there asses handed.
Dont understand why you wanna cuddle with a cobra white looking snake thing that swims around in black oil in a structure with on top a skull on a fckn alien planet,reach out and thouch. ::)
Milburn is a Botanist. And Botanists are known for their fearlessness.
LoL
And again LoL at the picture of the facehugger and engineer.
in a few months you be laughing about it alsof,its so way off.
Quote from: Infected on Apr 30, 2012, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Apr 30, 2012, 07:36:56 PM
Quote from: Infected on Apr 30, 2012, 07:32:15 PM
Fifield and Milburn gonna get there asses handed.
Dont understand why you wanna cuddle with a cobra white looking snake thing that swims around in black oil in a structure with on top a skull on a fckn alien planet,reach out and thouch. ::)
Milburn is a Botanist. And Botanists are known for their fearlessness.
LoL
And again LoL at the picture of the facehugger and engineer.
in a few months you be laughing about it alsof,its so way off.
I'm laughing about it already. + my sig represents pre-prometheus speculation on my part. Still have to say that there is more to the Jockey Mask/Breathing Apparatus than meets the eyes (and mouth.)
It's my favorite part of this whole lead up to the film. This is the only time in history that we'll be in that magical area of not knowing quite what to expect. Fertile soil for creativity. :)
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Apr 30, 2012, 07:55:30 PM
Quote from: Infected on Apr 30, 2012, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Apr 30, 2012, 07:36:56 PM
Quote from: Infected on Apr 30, 2012, 07:32:15 PM
Fifield and Milburn gonna get there asses handed.
Dont understand why you wanna cuddle with a cobra white looking snake thing that swims around in black oil in a structure with on top a skull on a fckn alien planet,reach out and thouch. ::)
Milburn is a Botanist. And Botanists are known for their fearlessness.
LoL
And again LoL at the picture of the facehugger and engineer.
in a few months you be laughing about it alsof,its so way off.
I'm laughing about it already. + my sig represents pre-prometheus speculation on my part. Still have to say that there is more to the Jockey Mask/Breathing Apparatus than meets the eyes (and mouth.)
It's my favorite part of this whole lead up to the film. This is the only time in history that we'll be in that magical area of not knowing quite what to expect. Fertile soil for creativity. :)
True,years from now you be thinking back at these precious days.
Its just an intergalactic hazard suit.
So, instead of the chest-burster, what we have here is the mouth-burster...... perhaps!
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So we have two creatures?
One that launches itself from the mans mouth....where could it have gestated from the intestines?Lungs? Or is it coming from
The brain?
Then we have the one Shaw has either in her womb or intestines....hmmnnn
another question, how did the creatures get inside the humans?
Quote from: RoaryUK on Apr 30, 2012, 08:06:18 PM
So, instead of the chest-burster, what we have here is the mouth-burster...... perhaps!
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That's the dude who got that snake inside his suit,and then had his helmet melting. so i guess what comes out of his mouth is that snake from the trailer, not another creature
Quote from: zuzuki on Apr 30, 2012, 08:46:50 PM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Apr 30, 2012, 08:06:18 PM
So, instead of the chest-burster, what we have here is the mouth-burster...... perhaps!
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That's the dude who got that snake inside his suit,and then had his helmet melting. so i guess what comes out of his mouth is that snake from the trailer, not another creature
Seriously, this movie can't be rated PG-13 based on all these gruesome scenes from the trailers!
Quote from: zuzuki on Apr 30, 2012, 08:46:50 PM
Quote from: RoaryUK on Apr 30, 2012, 08:06:18 PM
So, instead of the chest-burster, what we have here is the mouth-burster...... perhaps!
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That's the dude who got that snake inside his suit,and then had his helmet melting. so i guess what comes out of his mouth is that snake from the trailer, not another creature
Fairly sure Ford is mouth hugger's host. Look at haircut
And yet, Ford is seen carrying Holloway(?) back with Shaw outside the Prometheus ship and in the medical room examining the jockey/human head.
Skullbursters! This one and the one in the lab. So this is gonna be their M.O. then?
I'm hoping for a variety of new creatures, not two. I mean, if these are engineered bioweapons I just expect their designers to demonstrate some ingenuity (read: diversity) (read: lots of epic, WTF-inspiring kills).
I'm going to try and resist watching any more trailers. I want to be surprised when I see the film :)
Various sites keep saying that this trailer has spoilers.... I still don"t see it :/
Reckon we'll see loads of different biomech creatures in this film.
And i'm voting that David will become a space jockey as shown in the pic below.
Tthe androids in the are basically biomechanical anyway with artificial blood and organs etc.
Quote from: gabriel lockhart on Apr 30, 2012, 09:49:22 PM
Reckon we'll see loads of different biomech creatures in this film.
And i'm voting that David will become a space jockey as shown in the pic below.
Tthe androids in the are basically biomechanical anyway with artificial blood and organs etc.
I think that IS David in that picture, its obviously evoking the Ash attack on Ripley in ALIEN.
We've no idea when the mouthburster scene happens in the film. I don't expect it to be too early on. But I don't know how anyone can tell who it is, much less a haircut. My best guess is it might be poor Milburn, assuming he's even the one with the melting helmet.
David is not the engineer... it's pretty evident from all the tidbits and clues that have been released + the trailers + the named actors actually portraying the engineer in the film.
Besides, I don't buy the notion that the humans infected, 'become' someone else, engineers or whatever. They are still themselves with their identities intact, but something very terrifying happens to them, forcing them to make desperate choices. I think infected Fifield is tearing the people apart in the hangar because they essentially wanna kill him... Should he just allow them to?
too much fire with the cargo bay doors open? is that atmosphere really unbreathable?
maybe the mixture is not just proper. just asking , though im sure i will enjoy this scene.
Quote from: EGM1966 on Apr 30, 2012, 05:23:23 PM
Fairly intense body horror has been impied all along but is clearly present from that trailer and that normally always pushes the rating up.
I'm pretty sure that this would have been rated R all along. It looks horrifying. Spreading the rumor that it might be PG-13 is a good way for a studio to get people talking about the film and make people feel a sense of relief/happiness/ownership when it is not.
I'm guessing if the snakeburster is the same thing coming out of Rafe Spall's mouth, it can spit or spray acid out through that little mouth on it's front, probably how it slipped in his arm in the first place, getting acid on his suit and slipping right in.
WHY IN THE HELL DID THEY SHOW THE MOUTH BURSTER? DAMMIT! >:(
Quote from: Sgt Monday on Apr 30, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
So we have two creatures?
One that launches itself from the mans mouth....where could it have gestated from the intestines?Lungs? Or is it coming from
The brain?
Then we have the one Shaw has either in her womb or intestines....hmmnnn
another question, how did the creatures get inside the humans?
Spoiler
I think it might be the same way it exits... I also think this is just one type of monster in the film, different from what Holloway is infected with and what comes out of Shaw. Maybe this thing can't plant a spore like a hugger, and may just force open the mouth as it attacks by strangling the neck, forcing the person to gasp for air, before slithering down the unfortunate crew member's throat in the process. Once inside it could be reanimating the person by morphing the biological material for a new purpose through something it secretes, making it appear the crew member is alive for awhile; especially if they return to the group after this happens. Even partially retaining memories, until the crew members begin to mutate/behave very strangely and are killed. The thing recognizes when the body is no use to it anymore and/or fully mutated, and jumps to another victim inheriting that persons memories and other traits as the cobra monster goes. When it leaves I think the reanimated/infected crew member continues to live in some cases, but they are no longer themselves at all
It's worth mentioning that the original Alien teaser showed Ash the droid flailing around, part of the chestburster scene, and the facehugger.
I don't know what that thing is or whose mouth it's coming out of, but we don't know much from what we saw and if we didn't have the ability to freeze frame - as we wouldn't in the theater watching the trailer or the original Alien teaser - we wouldn't really know what we saw. Or at least I wouldn't.
wow those few extra seconds are really something.
That creature coming out of one of the crew's mouth is going to make me uncomfortable lol. The melting-Helmet onto the guys face already had me gulp, suffocation stuff kinda freaks me out abit.
This is gonna be frightening shit, gods I cant wait for this!!
Yes, about the same amount of nondescript creature shots were shown when Alien released. We haven't been spoiled whatsoever.
I dont know what to think about the snake creature......
Anyway, nobody talks about the 2 or 3 hologram (or not) SPACE JOCKEY running to David on the corridor at 2:08?
@ 0:52
Shaw: No, not a map - an invitation.
Fifield: From whom?
Text: FROM RIDLEY SCOTT
Spoiler
I find it interesting that the new 'infecting' stage of creature (presumably doing so via bite) looks a great deal like a facehugger without legs...
Quote from: Eva on Apr 30, 2012, 10:43:21 PM
David is not the engineer... it's pretty evident from all the tidbits and clues that have been released + the trailers + the named actors actually portraying the engineer in the film.
Besides, I don't buy the notion that the humans infected, 'become' someone else, engineers or whatever. They are still themselves with their identities intact, but something very terrifying happens to them, forcing them to make desperate choices. I think infected Fifield is tearing the people apart in the hangar because they essentially wanna kill him... Should he just allow them to?
David is clearly not THE engineer.
Ian Whyte is playing the Engineer and other actors are playing them for those holograms/flashbacks sequences.
But then who is that human sized character wearing an Engineer undersuit?
A dying old man with a god complex?
An artificial being who seems to have a lot of fun with Engineer's tech, manipulating it pretty easely, a being jaleous to humans who feel superior to them?
A maverick archeologist?
Fifield is infected by something and mutates into some sort of elongated limbs monster.
Either he has an agenda or just go berserk is yet to be known.
Holloway is infected by yet another form of creature he survives long enough to make love to Shaw and infect her.
Or it seems.
that melted face and that thing bursting out of one on of the crew member's mouth its really disturbing...i got goosebumps
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 10:09:35 AM
Ian Whyte is playing the Engineer and other actors are playing them for those holograms/flashbacks sequences.
But then who is that human sized character wearing an Engineer undersuit?
A dying old man with a god complex?
Let it go dude. Really. It's the same engineer in all the shots, intended to be a nine foot being. He wakes up, puts on his suit, and prepares to kick human ass.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 01, 2012, 12:28:21 PM
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 10:09:35 AM
Ian Whyte is playing the Engineer and other actors are playing them for those holograms/flashbacks sequences.
But then who is that human sized character wearing an Engineer undersuit?
A dying old man with a god complex?
Let it go dude. Really. It's the same engineer in all the shots, intended to be a nine foot being. He wakes up, puts on his suit, and prepares to kick human ass.
No DUDE. YOU let it go.
If you clearly see a nine foot being in this shot you should really get your eyes checked... Dude.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww3.picturepush.com%2Fphoto%2Fa%2F7831681%2Fimg%2FPrometheus-Trailer%2Fvlcsnap-2012-03-17-22h15m46s15.png&hash=4bf256825dd5022771b9f7df3c38d54e76288e58)
Shaw and the Prometheus corridors magicaly increased their size by 300% in the course of the movie. Well That is what good food does ;D
He couls have been enhanced resized later but it's wrong too because from Connor O'sullivans interviews now we know that when confronted to humans in the same scene he's played by Ian Whyte in full prosthetic suit.
Only when the Engineers are alone (the holographic flashbacks), they are played by regular sized actors.
It's gonna be fun to read you once the cat is out of the bag...
But i suspect that you will have the same attitude as Glaive when confronted with the truth about the screening i attended... ;D
Arent you the one who already told me to let it go when i said month ago that ENGINEERS will be huge humanoids?
We know how it turned out... ;D
BTW everyone is entitled to their opinion and theory if my posts annoy you that much the ignore option works very well.
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 01:15:18 PMIf you clearly see a nine foot being in this shot you should really get your eyes checked... Dude.
I see legs.
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 01:15:18 PM
No DUDE. YOU let it go.
Oh, no. Someone is getting fussy. ;D
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 01:15:18 PM
If you clearly see a nine foot being in this shot you should really get your eyes checked... Dude.
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Shaw and the Prometheus corridors magicaly increased their size by 300% in the course of the movie. Well That is what good food does ;D
He couls have been enhanced resized later but it's wrong too because from Connor O'sullivans interviews now we know that when confronted to humans in the same scene he's played by Ian Whyte in full prosthetic suit.
Only when the Engineers are alone (the holographic flashbacks), they are played by regular sized actors.
It's gonna be fun to read you once the cat is out of the bag...
But i suspect that you will have the same attitude as Glaive when confronted with the truth about the screening i attended... ;D
Arent you the one who already told me to let it go when i said month ago that ENGINEERS will be huge humanoids?
We know how it turned out... ;D
BTW everyone is entitled to their opinion and theory if my posts annoy you that much the ignore option works very well.
...Man, you really have a hard time hearing someone tell you that you're wrong.
I'm not a coward that I have to use the forum equivalant of "NAH NAH NAH I CANT HEAR YOU!" You're wrong. That is of course
my opinion, I don't know why I have to make that discliaimer. You seem smart enough to make wild assertions and speculations with the best of us about pretty much impossible to calculate elements of the story.
Noomi is scrunched up on the floor, The engineer vaguely looks to be hunching over (to reach down and grab her) it's impossible to tell the size properly from that shot. Especially considering the angle is 45 degrees relative to them, and about 20 or 30 degrees angled up. Which is what you do when you're trying to make something look
bigger. Like in Terminator, every shot of Arnold is a low angle up towards his face to make him
look bigger.
One engineer. No David donning the suit, no old man Weyland donning the suit. Yes, it is
my opinion. That doesn't stop me from saying "Hey? Based on what I see. I think you're wrong."
The closest thing shown so far about stealing tech from the Engineers is David taking one of the Ampules, and the taking of The Jockey head. That, is plenty to satisfy that part of the Prometheus mythos.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on May 01, 2012, 01:37:31 PM
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 01:15:18 PMIf you clearly see a nine foot being in this shot you should really get your eyes checked... Dude.
I see legs.
Hah! ;D
I'm wrong?
As i was wrong for the collision, as i was for the ship under the temple, as i was for old peter wayland being on board...
LOL.
No you are... DUDE!
We can play that game for a month...
More like 15 days if all goes weel ^^
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 01, 2012, 01:58:42 PM
Noomi is scrunched up on the floor, The engineer vaguely looks to be hunching over (to reach down and grab her) it's impossible to tell the size properly from that shot. Especially considering the angle is 45 degrees relative to them, and about 20 or 30 degrees angled up. Which is what you do when you're trying to make something look bigger. Like in Terminator, every shot of Arnold is a low angle up towards his face to make him look bigger.
Usually to get that trick effect you put your camera right under the giant being or behind the victim overshadowed by the being but Thanks for that lesson in cinematography, i'll try to remember it for a shoot.
If you wanna make a regular human look like a 7ft tall humanoid don't bother hiring a tall actor or cgi.
Just put you camera on the ground facing straight the actors who are at 3 meters in front of you.
Don't bother if the humanoid is near a door that you have seen to be human sized in previous shot.
Seriously sometimes i wonder why we bother with sfx...
Glad to know that you have the balls to speak up your mind.
The victory will taste even better mouhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ;)
one of the earlier trailers begins with something along the lines of "every great king
has his reign,then he dies"
So the room with the giant and urs seems to be a shrine to this great king(God).
The giant face resembles the guy in the waterfall scene.And we know the engeneers
have visited Earth before.Could this be the one engeneer leader that gave"fire" to the
humans long ago and was punished for it by having this lifeform eat him from the inside?
"fire" meaning what tho....
Anothèr observation-
So maybe in the movie the Engeneer we see is not evil.
Shaw says "Theireleaving"
So multiple beings are heading to Earth in hopes of harming it,according to the trailers.
We see at least one crewmember turning on the rest of the crew,possibly infected.
So maybe other crew members get infected and are trying to bring this desease to Earth.
These infected crew members are "Theire leaving"
Shaw and team must stop them obviously,but with the help if the lone engeneer who knows the dangers of
the "desease".
The credit list (and the interviews) shows that there is only ONE living Engineer.
The others are dead.
"They are leaving" is about the holograms flashbacks.
BTWShaw on top of the taking off Juggernaut is saying "we have to stop HIM".
One character is leaving.
And it's either David or Peter Weyland.
And you are all gonna hate me for spoiling that to you.
:)
FYI, Shaw says 'If we don't stop it, there won't be any home to go back to'
... and I don't buy the Weland/David engineer at all, but that's old news. David meets his demise onboard the Juggernaut facing the last engineer, I suspect... ;)
The pic of the legs may not even be a jockey or engineer. It may be a human crew member who has been transformed into something alien-like or melded into a suit that was similar to the jockey suit, just smaller cause its a human.
Also maybe like humans space jockey's are different sizes some might only be 7 feet tall while others might be 8-9/10 feet tall. Humans range from 3 feet to over 8 feet tall so why not space jockey's?
The one on LV426 might be a really large one and maybe different from the ones in this film. Not sure if engineers and space jockeys are going to be the same thing or different species.
Got a feeling those jockeys who are seen running on the hologram are just like the jockey version of prometheus they got lured to the planet and found out it was a trap so they fled. Maybe the one found on lv426 is one of them and their ship is the one that crashed on LV426 cause they got infected like the prometheus crew does. The original space jockey in Alien was perhaps the captain or eldest of the crewmembers who set down on the planet in prometheus and the other jockeys are younger crew members, thats why he is so much bigger perhaps. or as i stated before maybe the vary in size.
I'm pretty sure the jockeys in the holagram are from quite a few years before prometheus and maybe they are the crew of the derelict found in alien who know how long they were there before the prometheus crew maybe 5 years maybe 5000 years?
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 02:35:20 PM
I'm wrong?
Yep. Very.
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 02:35:20 PM
As i was wrong for the collision, as i was for the ship under the temple, as i was for old peter wayland being on board...
...Okay. ??? I never personally claimed you were wrong about those things, so it has no bearing on this particular conversation.
Oh.... Are you being persecuted? To quote one of my favorite comedians; "Why don't you come down off the cross, use the wood to build a bridge, and
get over it!"
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 02:35:20 PM
Usually to get that trick effect you put your camera right under the giant being or behind the victim overshadowed by the being
Not always. Sometimes, you're trying to show the creature stalking towards it's victim, which is exactly what is happening. Usually these shots are short enough that even if their is an illusion breaking issue, it won't be noticed by anyone except the more anal frame-by-framers.
In Alien they avoided this issue by rarely having human and alien n the same shot in a wide angle. So those instances with the shorter stunt man were a non-issue.
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 02:35:20 PM
Thanks for that lesson in cinematography, i'll try to remember it for a shoot.
You're quite welcome. I hope it comes in handy. :)
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 02:35:20 PM
If you wanna make a regular human look like a 7ft tall humanoid
Nine feet, dude. Let's try to keep the fundamentals accurate. :)
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 02:35:20 PM
Glad to know that you have the balls to speak up your mind.
The victory will taste even better mouhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ;)
:) Hey, just make sure you open wide.
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 02:42:02 PM
BTWShaw on top of the taking off Juggernaut is saying "we have to stop HIM".
One character is leaving.
And it's either David or Peter Weyland.
She says
very clearly "Stop IT" As in, the ship taking off.
"If you don't stop it there won't be any home to go back to."Even if she was saying "he" that doesn't prove it's a human. The Engineer is very clearly a tough looking masculine figure.
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 02:42:02 PM
And you are all gonna hate me for spoiling that to you.
:)
Trololololo. Nice to know you haven't changed much engineer.
Quote from: Eva on May 01, 2012, 02:49:22 PM
FYI, Shaw says 'If we don't stop it, there won't be any home to go back to'
... and I don't buy the Weland/David engineer at all, but that's old news. David meets his demise onboard the Juggernaut facing the last engineer, I suspect... ;)
Yep listened to it again, she says IT.
The recent declarations of Fassbender on his characters leaves me no doubt that he will play a part more important than that.
The whole angle of him being jaleous to humans and having fun with the tech especially.
On a side note who do you explain that human sized character?
Would like to hear you opinion really.
Do you think it's suposed to be a 7ft tall Engineer and Scott failed to make him look tall?
:)
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 03:00:20 PM
Quote from: Eva on May 01, 2012, 02:49:22 PM
FYI, Shaw says 'If we don't stop it, there won't be any home to go back to'
... and I don't buy the Weland/David engineer at all, but that's old news. David meets his demise onboard the Juggernaut facing the last engineer, I suspect... ;)
Yep listened to it again, she says IT.
The recent declarations of Fassbender on his characters leaves me no doubt that he will play a part more important than that.
The whole angle of him being jaleous to humans and having fun with the tech especially.
On a side note who do you explain that human sized character?
Would like to hear you opinion really.
Do you think it's suposed to be a 7ft tall Engineer and Scott failed to make him look tall?
:)
The engineer towering over Shaw in the lifeboat corridor? He's definately larger than an average human - I don't know why people think that's a human.
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If you measure Shaws leg up, 'stretching it out', the top of her hip would reach somewhere to the middle of his thigh (we can't even see his feet). And it's
not Noomi Rapaces small physique that accounts for this - women and men have almost the same leg length - it's the upperbody area where average women are a lot shorter than average men. Her head would reach his stomach area/lower chest when standing upright next to him, I'd say.
When Noomi is seen looking through the window on the door right behind them (tentacle scene), she can only 'reach' the lower part of the window. Even accounting for the perspective, imagine how tall the engineer in that shot, if you put him next to the door.
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As to David - I believe his character arc will revolve around him dealing with humans, contrasted with what he will think of us and himself, when it is revealed that humans themselves are designed/made for a very specific purpose (just as David is) by the engineers. That's imo where Davids character arc comes into play. :)
@updated with screenshot
I think the Xenomorph in the original movies is a genetic hybrid. The creature we see here will take on human DNA to become the Xenomorph well all love. Some sort of hybridization will happen, im sure thats the whole point, whether it be a natural process or something artificial.
Its all acedemic all this arguing about the size of the jockeys in this picture or that clip etc. I watched ALIEN last night and the jockey in that would literaly of been about 12+ feet tall, christ his arm looked almost as big as the humans, even the Naavi off AVATAR would pale in size compared to the jockey off ALIEN. The space jockeys in this really annoy me, first the 'its a suit' crap and now the small nature of them, i kind of wish Scott had kept away from the Jockeys as its destroying the sense of wonder and awe the Jockey scene in ALIEN has.
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it looks like the jockey's skull alone would come up to a human adult's chest
To be fair, the jockey is a lot closer to the camera in that pic but yeah the point stll stands, the jockey in ALIEN would be 12+ foot tall easily and the jockeys in Prometheus don't even look anywhere as big as a 10 foot Naavi, they look more like 8 feet tall in Prometheus which would probably be too small for jockey children! lol.
The jockey in Alien could have been dead for thousands of years - a remote ancestor to the engineer we will see in this film. Besides, why would they all have to be equally sized? They are an advanced race playing around with lifeforms and biomechanoid technology. Are all humans the same size? Do we all wear clothing/suits of the same size?
Quote from: Eva on May 01, 2012, 03:18:31 PM
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 03:00:20 PM
Quote from: Eva on May 01, 2012, 02:49:22 PM
FYI, Shaw says 'If we don't stop it, there won't be any home to go back to'
... and I don't buy the Weland/David engineer at all, but that's old news. David meets his demise onboard the Juggernaut facing the last engineer, I suspect... ;)
Yep listened to it again, she says IT.
The recent declarations of Fassbender on his characters leaves me no doubt that he will play a part more important than that.
The whole angle of him being jaleous to humans and having fun with the tech especially.
On a side note who do you explain that human sized character?
Would like to hear you opinion really.
Do you think it's suposed to be a 7ft tall Engineer and Scott failed to make him look tall?
:)
The engineer towering over Shaw in the lifeboat corridor? He's definately larger than an average human - I don't know why people think that's a human.
http://i46.tinypic.com/2agjl2v.jpg
If you measure Shaws leg up, 'stretching it out', the top of her hip would reach somewhere to the middle of his thigh (we can't even see his feet). And it's not Noomi Rapaces small physique that accounts for this - women and men have almost the same leg length - it's the upperbody area where average women are a lot shorter than average men. Her head would reach his stomach area/lower chest when standing upright next to him, I'd say.
When Noomi is seen looking through the window on the door right behind them (tentacle scene), she can only 'reach' the lower part of the window. Even accounting for the perspective, imagine how tall the engineer in that shot, if you put him next to the door.
As to David - I believe his character arc will revolve around him dealing with humans, contrasted with what he will think of us and himself, when it is revealed that humans themselves are designed/made for a very specific purpose (just as David is) by the engineers. That's imo where Davids character arc comes into play. :)
Thanks for your detailed answer ;)
I'm baffled you see it that way but i respect your view :)
Quote from: Eva on May 01, 2012, 03:37:55 PM
The jockey in Alien could have been dead for thousands of years - a remote ancestor to the engineer we will see in this film. Besides, why would they all have to be equally sized? They are an advanced race playing around with lifeforms and biomechanoid technology. Are all humans the same size? Do we all wear clothing/suits of the same size?
No humans are not all the same size but the difference in size between the ALIEN jockey and the Prometheus jockeys seems llarger than the difference between say 'little people' and a averge sized man/woman. Maybe thats it, the prometheus jockeys are an outlaw sect of 'little jockeys' who are travelling the universe looking for their pot of gold. ::)
Hmmm...
someone made Prometheus darker in this trailer, mother f--ker is at it again.
They better not make the final product needlessly dark on IMAX 3D, it better be nice and bright, detailed with solid black colors. I'm tired of these washed out, murky, dark films that rape the directors cinematography.
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 03:41:04 PM
Thanks for your detailed answer ;)
I'm baffled you see it that way but i respect your view :)
I'm baffled with the various theories with the engineer in reality being David/Weyland/Holloway/Santa Claus, but whatever ;)
It seems to me that
some of it, is motivated by disliking the fact that space jockeys are humanoids in suits,
coupled with them not being as tall as the jockey in Alien,
coupled with the need for convoluted plot twist.
The scene we are talking about, is imo about
Shaw (who is religious) essentially facing her God/maker and the terrifying implications of this. Is she about to get raped (again) Lambert style by 'God'?
All this subtext is completely out the window, if it's just a crewmember in an engineer suit.
But I've been wrong before... :)
Quote from: PHANTOM on May 01, 2012, 03:49:13 PM
Hmmm...
someone made Prometheus darker in this trailer, mother f--ker is at it again.
They better not make the final product needlessly dark on IMAX 3D, it better be nice and bright, detailed with solid black colors. I'm tired of these washed out, murky, dark films that rape the directors cinematography.
All the international trailers seem overly dark compared to the domestic trailers, i prefer the darkness level in the domestic trailers, it seems about right.
Quote from: Eva on May 01, 2012, 03:52:14 PM
Quote from: NGR01 on May 01, 2012, 03:41:04 PM
Thanks for your detailed answer ;)
I'm baffled you see it that way but i respect your view :)
I'm baffled with the various theories with the engineer in reality being David/Weyland/Holloway/Santa Claus, but whatever ;)
It seems to me that some of it, is motivated by disliking the fact that space jockeys are humanoids in suits, coupled with them not being as tall as the jockey in Alien, coupled with the need for convoluted plot twist.
The scene we are talking about, is imo about Shaw (who is religious) essentially facing her God/maker and the terrifying implications of this. Is she about to get raped (again) Lambert style by 'God'?
All this subtext is completely out the window, if it's just a crewmember in an engineer suit.
But I've been wrong before... :)
Lets be clear just in case.
I do believe we will be meeting a real Engineer.
A towering giant being.
Never was disapointed by the humnaoid in suit concept.
You might not be targeting me but just wanted to be clear :)
As for the confrontation between Shaw and her "God" yep that is a powerful concept and something i want to see.
But in the way she's reacting in that scene (in one shot you can see her grabbed by the suit and she's not affraid or anything) i don't see any god fearing. This whole scene looks more like a last stand (with a axe) than anything else.
Also i doubt she would have the guts to attack a 7ft tall god like being with an axe.
Sounds more like it with a fake god.
The human engineer is not convuluted it does fit perfectly with the Prometheus myth,Peter Weyland or David story arc.
We'll see...
I wasn't targeting you specifically :)
My take on what we've seen:
When they discover the Juggernaut ship underground, the remaining humans (sans the flight crew, Vickers and perhaps Weyland if he's still alive by then) suit up and go inside it. The scenes we've seen from inside the ship play out - David remains in the control room, activates the holograms and communicates to the others, exploring other parts of the ship, what he's watching.
The surviving engineer is awakened/alerted and he emerges from the only remaining intact cryotube in the controlroom. It could be a sight if he emerges in the scene with the jockey hologram playing and David doesn't realize at first, that there's an actual living engineer approaching him.
David is dealt with, Ford + armed guy and the others. Shaw is the only one who makes it out before the ship takes of. Cue scene with her running on the surface, alerting the flight crew to stop the Juggernaut at all costs. The collision happens, the Juggernaut crashes and the engineer exits and approaches the lifeboat module now sitting on the ground -> face off with Shaw & possibly Vickers.
Shaw with the axe might not be her dealing with the engineer (not that there's anything wrong with that image imo) - it could be the tentacle creature as well...
Sorry for the rant and I'm probably wrong about at least 50% of this anyway (we all are I suspect)... :laugh:
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Check out those beefcake legs!
Too much muscle for a 90+ year old peter weyland/santa claus.
what me no understand!!!1
we said, that the ampule room was in the pyramid... okay
we see, that david is in le jockeê room, also where le starmap is....okay
so they went both into le juggernautê and in le pyramidê at approx. same time?
cos the shit went wrong in the ampule room, when the cutle little thingie burnt le whole shit to the ground. and why do they go after they know that those wormies really don't like them into the derelict...(or was le group split up and one of them was in le juggernautê at the same time?)
....then why taking an alien head with yoü † ?
I think that it's one Engineer, period. I've seen absolutely nothing in any of the footage I've seen that indicates a crew member mutating into a fully-fledged Engineer, and frankly I think that doing so would ruin the core conceit of the film, namely, that they land on LV-223, find the Engineer civilization where something nasty happened to all but one of them, and get eviscerated by the Engineer and/or his biomechanical baddies. Yes, it's obvious that various crew members are mutating in some fashion but it would be pretty dumb for them to mutate into an Engineer. We are all entitled to our opinions and are obviously all over-excited to see this film, but also need to respect the opinions of others and respect the fact that we can all agree or disagree over the plot points. I hope we can all agree, though, that June can't get here fast enough!
I think the creature standing over Shaw and the one strapping onto the Jockey chair with the
Mask intact,are the same creature.Whoever or whatever it is,its the very same.
And it has some baaaaaddd intrntions.
Quote from: Predaker on May 01, 2012, 04:53:44 PM
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Check out those beefcake legs!
Too much muscle for a 90+ year old peter weyland/santa claus.
In the end its gonna be between the two lovers Shaw and Holloway,
the beefy legs are Holloway´s
Quote from: Infected on May 01, 2012, 08:09:18 PM
In the end its gonna be between the two lovers Shaw and Holloway,
the beefy legs are Holloway´s
What do you base this on?
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 01, 2012, 08:52:19 PM
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In the end its gonna be between the two lovers Shaw and Holloway,
the beefy legs are Holloway´s
What do you base this on?
I imagine its based on speculation that short humanoid engineer = mutated crew member.
I'm not buying it, though. We will see! :D
WEIRD....I just thought that as well...that those legs are Holloways mid-transformation....and this scene is the rape scene.....
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 02, 2012, 12:12:56 AM
WEIRD....I just thought that as well...that those legs are Holloways mid-transformation....and this scene is the rape scene.....
Surely someone thought this up earlier? I know I did. (Minus the rape stuff)
I feel like I have read every possible scenario in these forums, yet Ridley will still manage to surprise us all.
Quote from: Eva on May 01, 2012, 04:24:50 PM
I wasn't targeting you specifically :)
My take on what we've seen:
When they discover the Juggernaut ship underground, the remaining humans (sans the flight crew, Vickers and perhaps Weyland if he's still alive by then) suit up and go inside it. The scenes we've seen from inside the ship play out - David remains in the control room, activates the holograms and communicates to the others, exploring other parts of the ship, what he's watching.
The surviving engineer is awakened/alerted and he emerges from the only remaining intact cryotube in the controlroom. It could be a sight if he emerges in the scene with the jockey hologram playing and David doesn't realize at first, that there's an actual living engineer approaching him.
David is dealt with, Ford + armed guy and the others. Shaw is the only one who makes it out before the ship takes of. Cue scene with her running on the surface, alerting the flight crew to stop the Juggernaut at all costs. The collision happens, the Juggernaut crashes and the engineer exits and approaches the lifeboat module now sitting on the ground -> face off with Shaw & possibly Vickers.
Shaw with the axe might not be her dealing with the engineer (not that there's anything wrong with that image imo) - it could be the tentacle creature as well...
Sorry for the rant and I'm probably wrong about at least 50% of this anyway (we all are I suspect)... :laugh:
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Sounds about right.
But really making the survivor Engineer the ennemy sounds too generic to me.
The go and meet an alien race, he's bad wants to destroy earth, they stop him and we live happily ever after :)
Holloway's legs mhhhhh yep could be but i doubt it's before the love/infection scene.
All the shots of crazy Noomi take place in a pretty bad shape Prometheus.
When she collapses in front of David and Peter Weyland all seem pretty calm.
Im starting to think what grabs Shaw is her "child" all grown up and the "face" is that of her father's (patrick wilson). This would be possible genetically. To me it looks like wilson could even be in the suit. the thighs remind me of his in Watchmen.
Quote from: Mastes1 on May 01, 2012, 03:54:01 PM
Quote from: PHANTOM on May 01, 2012, 03:49:13 PM
Hmmm...
someone made Prometheus darker in this trailer, mother f--ker is at it again.
They better not make the final product needlessly dark on IMAX 3D, it better be nice and bright, detailed with solid black colors. I'm tired of these washed out, murky, dark films that rape the directors cinematography.
All the international trailers seem overly dark compared to the domestic trailers, i prefer the darkness level in the domestic trailers, it seems about right.
Exactly, but it goes to show that whoever made AVP-R ultra dark, Predators semi dark is still around, and he's about to do the samething to Prometheus, hope I'm wrong.
This is probably obvious to everyone else, but I just realized the two different scenes in this alternate trailer are precisely the two that were expunged between the leaked trailer and the first official one.
Just about 4 weeks to go and no rating yet?? What the fu€k???
People talk about the Engineer as some kind of mindless killing machine. I read ages ago hes meant to be a charming manipulator that cons some of the Prometheus crew to follow him. He then tricks them into being infected and sets them loose on the rest of the Prometheus crew. This leads me to conclude that there will be dialog of some description between himself and the Prometheus crew before he goes all agressive.
If it does speak, I hope it's language is inconceivably nightmarish.
I don't want any of this two voices dubbed over each other "ominous" crud.
I want it to make sounds that make you want to hide in the corner, if it must speak.
Quote from: RustiSwordz on May 02, 2012, 03:26:41 AM
People talk about the Engineer as some kind of mindless killing machine. I read ages ago hes meant to be a charming manipulator that cons some of the Prometheus crew to follow him. He then tricks them into being infected and sets them loose on the rest of the Prometheus crew. This leads me to conclude that there will be dialog of some description between himself and the Prometheus crew before he goes all agressive.
Nah, you're thinking of the sequel, "Lucifer." ;D
I suspect it the language, will be partially psychic in nature. Mind manipulation via telepathy. Or a language so ...alien... That only David can translate it.
Just a thought.Maybe Weyland or Holloway turn out to be heroes in the film.We see Janek step up to the plate.Maybe the story is about that,a small group of humans stepping up to save the world.I wonder if thats the twist.Everyone doing the right thing.
Quote from: EXTERMINATUS on May 02, 2012, 03:53:40 AM
Just a thought.Maybe Weyland or Holloway turn out to be heroes in the film.
That's the point I'd throw my soda at the screen.
Quote from: Cvalda on May 02, 2012, 03:55:04 AM
Quote from: EXTERMINATUS on May 02, 2012, 03:53:40 AM
Just a thought.Maybe Weyland or Holloway turn out to be heroes in the film.
That's the point I'd throw my soda at the screen.
Especially if it were LMG. Bleh~
LMG?
Light Machine Gun.
Quote from: Cvalda on May 02, 2012, 03:55:04 AM
Quote from: EXTERMINATUS on May 02, 2012, 03:53:40 AM
Just a thought.Maybe Weyland or Holloway turn out to be heroes in the film.
That's the point I'd throw my soda at the screen.
*imagines Ridley Scott's concept for Prometheus sequel being a Weyland & Holloway buddy movie*
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Spoiler
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Quote from: EXTERMINATUS on May 02, 2012, 03:53:40 AM
Just a thought.Maybe Weyland or Holloway turn out to be heroes in the film.We see Janek step up to the plate.Maybe the story is about that,a small group of humans stepping up to save the world.I wonder if thats the twist.Everyone doing the right thing.
Yeah, I'm very, very, very doubtful either Holloway or Weyland will be the heroes. Not to mention my personal skepticism of LMG's capability of carrying what could potentially become a new franchise for the ALIEN-verse as the main character. :P
It's going to end up either being Shaw and/or Vickers that live to see another day. Shaw is the more obvious choice, what with all the heralding from the media as "the new Ripley," but I actually kinda hope it's Vickers who pulls through. :D
If the story were to continue on in whatever direction
Prometheus brings out, Vickers could make a very interesting lead and the possibility of a more interesting dynamic between the (anti-)heroine and Weyland Industries upon her return. Just food for thought. ;)
i think we are f*cking confused with the trailers, they really tricked us about what happens and when
Quote from: szkoki on May 02, 2012, 10:27:46 AM
i think we are f*cking confused with the trailers, they really tricked us about what happens and when
That's how trailers usually work; you can get the general gist of the content, and do a relatively decent job mapping it all out in successive order, but you're never
really sure where exactly specific clips are located in the film, or when parts are pulling your leg.
For an example, for all we know, the collapsing/rolling Juggernaut could turn out to be an early nightmare experienced by Shaw or Vickers, rather than the obviously figured location of somewhere towards the end of the second act or somewhere in the third act. It's more likely the latter, but like I said, you never know when the trailer is messing with you.
Look back at the trailers for
The Dark Knight; people figured for a while that Rachel Dawes was going to meet her end in the film, but as I recall, it really kicked off with the part in the trailer where the Joker lets her fall out the window, which in the final film, we find Batman manages to save her
only so that she can die via a violent explosion a few days later...But then again, I could just be babbling nonsense and in which case, I sincerely apologize. ;D ;)
More along the lines of holloway and or weyland realizing their mistake even if one isnt even human anymore and does something to save humanity.I would even include david in that mix.
The video keeps saying it is private now and won't play. What's up with that?
Admittedly, I used to think maybe David became the Jockey, always thought it an interesting idea that he might want to become something other than just a machine. It will be even more interesting to find out what becomes of the 2 people we know get infected, Holloway being another Jockey candidate I seem to remember. As for David, well it still could be him if not the real Jockey himself I guess, though the image below would seem to suggest otherwise...
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...but then, isn't it possible there could also be more than one David!!
All I get is "This video is private". Kind of difficult to add to the discussion when I can't even watch the footage in question.
I am aware of screencaps out there of the scene, but I'd really rather watch the trailer for myself.
Where was this trailer released? All I've ever seen is the one with those shots removed.
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Quote from: CanisMajoris on Apr 30, 2012, 03:22:44 PM
OH f**k.... CHESTBURSTERS CONFIRMED! :o
edit: nope.... that thing is coming out from MOUTH :o
...which could be a small nod to the xeno and its inner mouth shooting out from its outer mouth, right? ;)
Excellent find - we've seen so little and I'm really freaked out by melting heads, snakehuggers etc etc... This is going to be wonderfully terrifying ;D
Makes me wonder if Ash new about mouth bursters and that was why he was so adamant to get that spoon in Kane's mouth.
No, Ash was putting a spoon in Kane's mouth to prevent him from grinding his teeth and breaking them. That's an actual technique, not a secret subplot planted 30 years ago by a time traveling Ridley Scott or him at the time knowing he would make Prometheus 30 years later.
Quote from: The_Moseph on May 07, 2012, 05:51:26 PM
No, Ash was putting a spoon in Kane's mouth to prevent him from grinding his teeth and breaking them. That's an actual technique, not a secret subplot planted 30 years ago by a time traveling Ridley Scott or him at the time knowing he would make Prometheus 30 years later.
Okay, okay, okay. I get it, holy crab burgers,
Batman!
Quote from: RoaryUK on May 05, 2012, 05:19:42 AM
Admittedly, I used to think maybe David became the Jockey, always thought it an interesting idea that he might want to become something other than just a machine. It will be even more interesting to find out what becomes of the 2 people we know get infected, Holloway being another Jockey candidate I seem to remember. As for David, well it still could be him if not the real Jockey himself I guess, though the image below would seem to suggest otherwise...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi16.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb13%2FAndyUK_1962%2FSpoiler-David.jpg&hash=5af967e9da449b238458ee2fed812cb280977d2f)
...but then, isn't it possible there could also be more than one David!!
Just a bit off topic (well not really), where did all this 'people changing into jockeys' ideas come from?
there is a set pic somewhere with Ridley & a David-a-like....assumed it was just a stunt double but maybe not??
Quote from: The_Moseph on May 07, 2012, 05:51:26 PM
No, Ash was putting a spoon in Kane's mouth to prevent him from grinding his teeth and breaking them. That's an actual technique, not a secret subplot planted 30 years ago by a time traveling Ridley Scott or him at the time knowing he would make Prometheus 30 years later.
I am pretty sure that this is a myth that has been dramatized in television and movies. It is not recommended practice to try to put anything in a person's mouth who is undergoing a seizure. People do not "swallow" their tongues. If they do happen to bite their tongue, during the onset of the seizure, this usually heals quickly. People undergoing seizures usually have constriction of their jaw muscles, and their teeth are clenched shut. They are not "chomping away" at their teeth or tongue. Furthermore, trying to forcefully wedge something into a person's clenched mouth is more likely to cause damage to the person's gums and teeth, than the actual seizure episode.
From the Epilepsy Foundation:
QuoteGet Seizure Smart is a grassroots initiative led by the Epilepsy Foundation, aimed at teaching people – from school children to first responders – how to respond to seizures. Many people still think you should put a spoon in the mouth of someone having a seizure, but that is untrue. You should never put anything in the mouth of someone having a seizure. Certain things you can do to be helpful include: Putting something flat and soft, like a folded jacket, under the head; clearing the area of anything hard or sharp; and turning the person gently to one side, to help keep the airway clear.
http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/news/It-Is-Time-to-Get-Seizure-Smart.cfm (http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/news/It-Is-Time-to-Get-Seizure-Smart.cfm)
Quote from: Mastes1 on May 07, 2012, 06:20:02 PM
Quote from: RoaryUK on May 05, 2012, 05:19:42 AM
Admittedly, I used to think maybe David became the Jockey, always thought it an interesting idea that he might want to become something other than just a machine. It will be even more interesting to find out what becomes of the 2 people we know get infected, Holloway being another Jockey candidate I seem to remember. As for David, well it still could be him if not the real Jockey himself I guess, though the image below would seem to suggest otherwise...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi16.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb13%2FAndyUK_1962%2FSpoiler-David.jpg&hash=5af967e9da449b238458ee2fed812cb280977d2f)
...but then, isn't it possible there could also be more than one David!!
Just a bit off topic (well not really), where did all this 'people changing into jockeys' ideas come from?
Scott said there could be two?
Quote from: Mastes1 on May 07, 2012, 06:20:02 PM
Quote from: RoaryUK on May 05, 2012, 05:19:42 AM
Admittedly, I used to think maybe David became the Jockey, always thought it an interesting idea that he might want to become something other than just a machine. It will be even more interesting to find out what becomes of the 2 people we know get infected, Holloway being another Jockey candidate I seem to remember. As for David, well it still could be him if not the real Jockey himself I guess, though the image below would seem to suggest otherwise...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi16.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb13%2FAndyUK_1962%2FSpoiler-David.jpg&hash=5af967e9da449b238458ee2fed812cb280977d2f)
...but then, isn't it possible there could also be more than one David!!
Just a bit off topic (well not really), where did all this 'people changing into jockeys' ideas come from?
Quote from: TimmyTurnersDad on May 02, 2012, 09:45:10 AM
Quote from: EXTERMINATUS on May 02, 2012, 03:53:40 AM
Just a thought.Maybe Weyland or Holloway turn out to be heroes in the film.We see Janek step up to the plate.Maybe the story is about that,a small group of humans stepping up to save the world.I wonder if thats the twist.Everyone doing the right thing.
Yeah, I'm very, very, very doubtful either Holloway or Weyland will be the heroes. Not to mention my personal skepticism of LMG's capability of carrying what could potentially become a new franchise for the ALIEN-verse as the main character. :P
It's going to end up either being Shaw and/or Vickers that live to see another day. Shaw is the more obvious choice, what with all the heralding from the media as "the new Ripley," but I actually kinda hope it's Vickers who pulls through. :D
If the story were to continue on in whatever direction Prometheus brings out, Vickers could make a very interesting lead and the possibility of a more interesting dynamic between the (anti-)heroine and Weyland Industries upon her return. Just food for thought. ;)
When I first saw the movie PITCH BLACK in theaters I totally thought the Carolyn Fry character was going to make it to the end, it seemed like she WAS the main character/hero. It was so unexpected that she suddenly met her end and Vin Diesel's anti-hero character ended up being the hero/main survivor. Not so expected now since his character IS basically the franchise but back then he wasn't as big. Would be cool to be totally invested in Shaw and rooting for her and then BAM! Vickers ends up taking the glory.
Anyone able to save this trailer before it went private?
Quote from: mastermoon on Apr 30, 2012, 03:20:43 PM
This trailer is very different from the one back in march.
Hi There ,
I cannot seem to view this trailer , if know a way I can see , it would be appreciated ....