"The adventure begins."
Possible spoiler territory (no new jockey footage though). A short new featurette I found off the Prometheus news Youtube channel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXXD34mxGM0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXXD34mxGM0#ws)
Looks to me like that mountain/pyramid has a rather beautiful face.
If someone else posted this video, I shall delete this.
Very very neat.
Anyone see the slimy worm creature at 1:23? ;D
:o :o :o :o!!!
00:35
hmmm dune concept used in prometheus ???
Spoiler
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Quote from: n3m0 on Apr 26, 2012, 12:31:03 AM
00:35
Spoiler
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hmmm dune concept used in prometheus ???
Exactly what I was thinking! (And it looks like all the Dune related speculation was spot on).
If anything it looks like it may be a reference linking to the alien design from the 1979 film as well.
God damn! Noomi Rapace is indecently sexy!
Oh my goooood!!!!!!!!!!! I can't fu€king wait!!!!!
It's from iTunes: http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox/prometheus/ (http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox/prometheus/)
HD 1080p: http://www.mediafire.com/?1ja5ibee5155sxp (http://www.mediafire.com/?1ja5ibee5155sxp)
Marshal-Green's acting smells of decidedly amateur ham from the little I've seen so far
THAT certainly isnt looking good :o
(sorry think ive been hacked somehow)
he's no amateur, but he plays one in the movie, i think.
the face on the temple reminded me also of the xenomorph.
I wonder if the music that's played at the beginning of the featurette is part of the score?
The chair david is sitting in... doesn't look like a chair a 9ft jockey sits on? or... could it ?
lol'#z maybe im fussy
What scene or half a second clip is causing you distress in terms of Logan's acting?
And the final question is... Is someone directing Ridley Scott?
I'm going to see this movie at least 3 times
Wow
I see yellow smudge on the Noomi's lower abdomen, I don't know what is used in the other countries, but it looks like disinfectant commonly used in the Czech before the surgery..
It is maybe only me, but suddenly, I got a feeling "This movie definitely won't suck".
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 26, 2012, 12:47:45 AM
What scene or half a second clip is causing you distress in terms of Logan's acting?
I'd imagine JKS1's referring to the 'whoop' given in the vehicle on the way to the temple.
Yup, that's Giger's Harkonnen.
Seemed a bit Hudson there in the RT01, Marshall-Green. Not a complaint - just seeing a nod to Aliens. Probably unintentional, but still.
Quote from: x-M-x on Apr 26, 2012, 12:46:46 AM
The chair david is sitting in... doesn't look like a chair a 9ft jockey sits on? or... could it ?
lol'#z maybe im fussy
Looking back at the clip, the chair is actually bigger than it looks. Not as huge as the original Jockey from 1979, but Michael Fassbender's feet hang a foot off the ground (like a toddler in an adult sized chair) and the control panel looks a little big for him too.
Quote from: Virgil_uk on Apr 26, 2012, 12:51:19 AM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 26, 2012, 12:47:45 AM
What scene or half a second clip is causing you distress in terms of Logan's acting?
I'd imagine JKS1's referring to the 'whoop' given in the vehicle on the way to the temple.
Yep, not just the whoop - that whole scene - 2 seconds is easily enough to make me think 'I just dont believe you'
The AVP type 'ancient advanced civilization' scene he fronts in the trailer too doesnt inspire in me much confidence in his acting abilities either - a few seconds is enough - again - he just looks like hes 'acting'
at least Bill Paxton's 'whoops' were believable in 'Aliens'
Hammy Logan aside, the rest of the footage in that featurette looks absolutely superb :)
Quote from: JKS1 on Apr 26, 2012, 12:59:15 AM
Quote from: Virgil_uk on Apr 26, 2012, 12:51:19 AM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 26, 2012, 12:47:45 AM
What scene or half a second clip is causing you distress in terms of Logan's acting?
I'd imagine JKS1's referring to the 'whoop' given in the vehicle on the way to the temple.
Yep, not just the whoop - that whole scene - 2 seconds is easily enough to make me think 'I just dont believe you'
The AVP type 'ancient advanced civilization' scene he fronts in the trailer too doesnt inspire in me much confidence in his acting abilities either - a few seconds is enough - again - he just looks like hes 'acting'
at least Bill Paxton's 'whoops' were believable in 'Aliens'
I have to agree with you on this. Those couple of seconds did make me wince slightly but hopefully within the full context it'll be fine.
Putting that aside...GIVE ME THIS F%@$ING MOVIE!
HD 1080p: http://www.mediafire.com/?1ja5ibee5155sxp (http://www.mediafire.com/?1ja5ibee5155sxp)
Awesome video!
-Guy Pearce!
-David 8 in a Jockey-esque chair!
This movie needs to be here now.
isn't that Chair just like the ones in the H.R. Giger bar?
I will agree that Logan's acting is the weakest of everyone I've seen.....but right now...especially with this 1.39 minutes of INCREDIBLE footage....Jesus....the game has just been fu€king changed AGAIN!
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 26, 2012, 01:17:35 AM
I will agree that Logan's acting is the weakest of everyone I've seen.....but right now...especially with this 1.39 minutes of INCREDIBLE footage....Jesus....the game has just been fu€king changed AGAIN!
The month of May is going to drag this year :D
oh my goddddd~
That was awesome! I love Noomie so much!
Cvalda where are you???
Brilliant, heaps of new stuff in there to dissect. Thanks Sweeper! So that temple is pretty much exactly like the Dune concept, except decayed. Buzzing.
Holy awesomeness...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43153.0;attach=661;image)
Quote from: JKS1 on Apr 26, 2012, 12:44:32 AM
Marshal-Green's acting smells of decidedly amateur ham from the little I've seen so far
THAT certainly isnt looking good :o
(sorry think ive been hacked somehow)
I thought the exact same thing, mainly because of the scene inside of the RT01. This doesn't look good.
Glad to see you a bit excited Pachi!
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 26, 2012, 01:49:00 AMGlad to see you a bit excited Pachi!
Dammit, you caught me. ;D
Clearly the CGI shots have been worked on more since the previous trailers, the Juggernaut explosion looks like a lot more debris and fire has been added, so that bodes well for anyone who contributed the endless criticism of the Jockey. I see there's a monitor shot of Shaw with her belly distended too.
Did anyone else noticed the big planet in the background at 0:38 that wasn't in the other trailer?
Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Apr 26, 2012, 01:56:50 AM
Did anyone else noticed the big planet in the background at 0:38 that wasn't in the other trailer?
I noticed this too, looked strikingly familiar...
Ridley-grams, anyone?
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Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Apr 26, 2012, 01:56:50 AM
Did anyone else noticed the big planet in the background at 0:38 that wasn't in the other trailer?
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Gotta be LV-426 or another moon... Especially given the star map and distance traveled to get there.
Trailer version:
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Thanks for those, Barringer. I see they're adding a lot of post-production visuals. That shot with the planet in the background looks great, and I see what they mean by Ridley coming from the more "visual" side of film making.
They could've also titled this film 'Forbidden Planet' ;)
This looks so wizard :D
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43153.0;attach=667;image)
the color grading is so much nicer too. i noticed they flattened the ridges in the background and set a much more defined light source. it looks much less earth-like overall.
Quote from: bioweapon on Apr 26, 2012, 02:10:57 AM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43153.0;attach=665;imageThis looks so wizard :D
now this is podracing
Quote from: Barringer on Apr 26, 2012, 02:04:15 AM
Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Apr 26, 2012, 01:56:50 AM
Did anyone else noticed the big planet in the background at 0:38 that wasn't in the other trailer?
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/5493/zr2l.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zzl_dczrSAw/SYemu53uMwI/AAAAAAAAArU/C5ToUcD3C34/s400/LV426.jpg
Gotta be LV-426 or another moon... Especially given the star map and distance traveled to get there.
Our galaxy is likely filled with trillions of ringed planets. Heck we have 2 in our own solar system. Rings are a by-product of how all planets form, so it's not exactly identifying. The planet in
Alien also has a tell-tale gas giant coloration, but this one is hard to make out. I agree the rings look similar though.
With these CGI updates it makes you wonder what our dear old Space Jockey is looking like.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 26, 2012, 02:12:51 AM
Our galaxy is likely filled with trillions of ringed planets. Heck we have 2 in our own solar system. Rings are a by-product of how all planets form, so it's not exactly identifying. The planet in alien also has a tell-tale coloration, but this one is hard to make out. I agree the rings look similar though.
No doubt, but I'm also considering the fact that they traveled 39 light years to reach their destination, which is the distance to Zeta Reticuli 2, as well as the fact that the star map in the ancient artifacts are all similarly, if not identically laid out as the Fish interpretation of the Betty Hill star map, which is what led to the Betty and Barney Hill alleged abduction being called the "Zeta Reticuli incident" and likely led to its inclusion in Alien.
A ringed Jovian planet in the sky is just another piece of corroborating evidence.
i don't think this is the same planet, as there is clearly no effort to make it look similar to the original gas giants surface, maybe I'm wrong though. this planet was definitely visible in an earlier trailer but not like it is in this one. in the other trailer the ringed planet looked like the moon does when you can see the moon in the day time - just white light detail look.
i think its no coincidence that this shot of the planet in the background like that is much more on par with ridleys original vision of the ringed gas giant in the background of the scenery in ALIEN. (based on the original story board for alien)
he may have wanted to get that shot the way he really wanted now that the technology for cgi is around.
confirmed at last 4 SJ blue space guy/ whatever but just holograms it seems
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the 4th is in the chair
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 26, 2012, 01:29:17 AM
Cvalda where are you???
:D
Nothing much to add, really--blah blah, looks great, blah blah, aside from Logan Marshall-Green who looks shit as always. :P
"a superior species" :laugh:
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 26, 2012, 02:22:02 AM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 26, 2012, 01:29:17 AM
Cvalda where are you???
Nothing much to add, really--blah blah, looks great, blah blah, aside from Logan Marshall-Green who looks shit as always. :P
It seems that they are deliberately playing Holloway as a juvenile douche-bag. He'll be the one we are rooting for... to die.
QuoteHeck we have 2 in our own solar system.
Four.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 26, 2012, 02:30:25 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 26, 2012, 02:22:02 AM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 26, 2012, 01:29:17 AM
Cvalda where are you???
Nothing much to add, really--blah blah, looks great, blah blah, aside from Logan Marshall-Green who looks shit as always. :P
It seems that they are deliberately playing Holloway as a juvenile douche-bag. He'll be the one we are rooting for... to die.
The thought had crossed my mind.
Brilliant sig, ChrisPachi ;D
Logan Marshall Green can do me sideways to Sunday :)
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 26, 2012, 02:35:59 AM
Logan Marshall Green can do me sideways to Sunday :)
Have fun with the parasitic alien squid baby afterward.
Quote from: Barringer on Apr 26, 2012, 02:18:40 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 26, 2012, 02:12:51 AM
Our galaxy is likely filled with trillions of ringed planets. Heck we have 2 in our own solar system. Rings are a by-product of how all planets form, so it's not exactly identifying. The planet in alien also has a tell-tale coloration, but this one is hard to make out. I agree the rings look similar though.
No doubt, but I'm also considering the fact that they traveled 39 light years to reach their destination, which is the distance to Zeta Reticuli 2, as well as the fact that the star map in the ancient artifacts are all similarly, if not identically laid out as the Fish interpretation of the Betty Hill star map, which is what led to the Betty and Barney Hill alleged abduction being called the "Zeta Reticuli incident" and likely led to its inclusion in Alien.
A ringed Jovian planet in the sky is just another piece of corroborating evidence.
All good clues, but hasn't it been flatly denied that this is set in or near Z2R? Maybe someone can clarify this better for us.
Quote from: Zenzucht on Apr 26, 2012, 12:51:00 AM
I see yellow smudge on the Noomi's lower abdomen, I don't know what is used in the other countries, but it looks like disinfectant commonly used in the Czech before the surgery..
It is maybe only me, but suddenly, I got a feeling "This movie definitely won't suck".
i guess is cgi blood for a rated version.
don´think this movie would suck.. except for that starmap scene
Space Jockey suite spotted ;D
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Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 26, 2012, 02:42:59 AM
Quote from: Barringer on Apr 26, 2012, 02:18:40 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 26, 2012, 02:12:51 AM
Our galaxy is likely filled with trillions of ringed planets. Heck we have 2 in our own solar system. Rings are a by-product of how all planets form, so it's not exactly identifying. The planet in alien also has a tell-tale coloration, but this one is hard to make out. I agree the rings look similar though.
No doubt, but I'm also considering the fact that they traveled 39 light years to reach their destination, which is the distance to Zeta Reticuli 2, as well as the fact that the star map in the ancient artifacts are all similarly, if not identically laid out as the Fish interpretation of the Betty Hill star map, which is what led to the Betty and Barney Hill alleged abduction being called the "Zeta Reticuli incident" and likely led to its inclusion in Alien.
A ringed Jovian planet in the sky is just another piece of corroborating evidence.
All good clues, but hasn't it been flatly denied that this is set in or near Z2R? Maybe someone can clarify this better for us.
Yeah I thought it had been mentioned it's a different system. I seem to recall 'LV-223' being bandied around.
Quote from: SM on Apr 26, 2012, 02:51:15 AMYeah I thought it had been mentioned it's a different system. I seem to recall 'LV-223' being bandied around.
That's it, thanks SM. Dammit I also remember something about it not being Z2R, I just can't find a reference.
Quote from: n3m0 on Apr 26, 2012, 12:31:03 AM
00:35
hmmm dune concept used in prometheus ???
Spoiler
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In the trailer version of this, it looks like there might be a pair of lips and eyes underneath the skull part. Or maybe that's obvious and my screen is just dark.
LV-223 could be another moon in orbit around the Jovian planet, but where I had read LV-223, there was some question as to whether that was a mistake on the part of the press report since some other detail was incorrect. Is it definitely confirmed that it's LV-223 and it wasn't a misreporting of LV-426?
Damn thats so cool, I love the new clips ;D.
Quote from: Opiate on Apr 26, 2012, 02:57:17 AM
Quote from: n3m0 on Apr 26, 2012, 12:31:03 AM
00:35
hmmm dune concept used in prometheus ???
Spoiler
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In the trailer version of this, it looks like there might be a pair of lips and eyes underneath the skull part. Or maybe that's obvious and my screen is just dark.
You're absolutely right. Here's an enhanced picture. (Edit - marked with *spoiler* tag)
Spoiler
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I am rather amazed! But I do look forward to surprises for this film. I hope the ideas they never used for ALIEN and Giger's concepts of DUNE work well. I still eager to see this film. As a curious question:
WHO IS GLAD ADI IS SITTING THIS ONE OUT?! LOL!
amazing,the new footage just excites me once again!
Fantastic.
Anyone else notice at 1:22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tsYej64A3tA#t=82s)?
Looks like David getting his skin ripped off, to me.
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 26, 2012, 02:38:13 AM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 26, 2012, 02:35:59 AM
Logan Marshall Green can do me sideways to Sunday :)
Have fun with the parasitic alien squid baby afterward.
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My god, err space jockey; the movie trailers just keep getting more and more beautiful. How the hell is this even possible. :P
The best part, it's pretty obvious that none of us have a freaking clue as to what is going to happen. :) I wonder if Ridley will spill the beans on the real name of the space jockey race in the next week since he already told us the name of the new derelict.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Apr 26, 2012, 04:53:45 AM
Fantastic.
Anyone else notice at 1:22 (http://www.explore-science-fiction-movies.com/images/alien-children-squid.jpg)?
Looks like David getting his skin ripped off, to me.
There's already been slowed down animated gifs of that; it's definitely some kind of tentcle entering somebody's suit.
You gotta love how Ridley just looks at his stunt man floating around and turns away like "meh...just another day at the office" lol.
Def diggin the scene where David is sitting the Space Jockey chair messing with the controls ;D
Quote from: SM on Apr 26, 2012, 02:51:15 AMYeah I thought it had been mentioned it's a different system. I seem to recall 'LV-223' being bandied around.
They never said it was in another star system. That designation should refer to planetary cataloging only. This is most likely another moon in orbit of the Gas giant Parent of LV-426. Why else would they mention in the Weyland History do they mention discovery of LV-426?
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 05:24:55 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Apr 26, 2012, 04:53:45 AM
Fantastic.
Anyone else notice at 1:22 (http://www.explore-science-fiction-movies.com/images/alien-children-squid.jpg)?
Looks like David getting his skin ripped off, to me.
There's already been slowed down animated gifs of that; it's definitely some kind of tentcle entering somebody's suit.
Ah, see it now.
I thought that was the planet name? I mean if we have to now take LV-426 as canonical to ALIEN as well as Aliens, that was the name assigned to the planetoid, not the system. Therefore, this new planet is possibly one of the other planetoids circling the ringed planet from A L I E N?
Quote from: Snark on Apr 26, 2012, 05:59:15 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 26, 2012, 02:51:15 AMYeah I thought it had been mentioned it's a different system. I seem to recall 'LV-223' being bandied around.
They never said it was in another star system. That designation should refer to planetary cataloging only. This is most likely another moon in orbit of the Gas giant Parent of LV-426. Why else would they mention in the Weyland History do they mention discovery of LV-426?
Ham fisted homage. Especially for a planet that is unsurveyed over 80 years later and not settled for 120 years. Somehow over 300 other planets were more important.
Quote from: PHANTOM on Apr 26, 2012, 05:38:03 AMDef diggin the scene where David is sitting the Space Jockey chair messing with the controls ;D
"a superior species, no doubt"
I must admit I never saw the original ringed planet as a gas giant, looks like it has much the same surface as the ALIEN planetoid to me.
We assume it's a gas giant.
Seeing as how LV-426 is so small, it could very well be terrestrial.
The one in Prometheus seems to be more gas giantish.
David using Space jockey technology.... Amazing :o
Just on that, the hologram globe of Earth shows Africa, Madagascar and Europe in their current positions. Does this mean the Jockies visited (assuming they did) relatively recently?
Considering many of those cave paintings depicting them teaching humanity crap are fairly recent, I'd say so.
They probably did. On that I wonder how the space jockeys spaceship flies? :-\
With its trigina engines.
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 26, 2012, 06:41:54 AM
Considering many of those cave paintings depicting them teaching humanity crap are fairly recent, I'd say so.
Oh yeah. Forgot about that.
Quote from: SM on Apr 26, 2012, 06:39:45 AM
Just on that, the hologram globe of Earth shows Africa, Madagascar and Europe in their current positions. Does this mean the Jockies visited (assuming they did) relatively recently?
I would assume so given the cave paintings and other artifacts depicting them. The continents haven't moved an appreciable amount in human history.
Quote from: escroto on Apr 26, 2012, 06:11:19 AM
Quote from: PHANTOM on Apr 26, 2012, 05:38:03 AMDef diggin the scene where David is sitting the Space Jockey chair messing with the controls ;D
"a superior species, no doubt"
"a superior species, no doubt" when he walked up and said that line I couldn't help but think...
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I got the impression with that line that David was being flippant and deprecating toward his human colleagues, rather than commenting on their level of technology.
Quote from: Barringer on Apr 26, 2012, 06:48:53 AM
I got the impression with that line that David was being flippant and deprecating toward his human colleagues, rather than commenting on their level of technology.
David8 is freakin'out constantly like a kid as soon as they enter Giger's corridors. Not to mention when he reaches the chair chamber. Why does he start messing with the control panel? lol
The rest of the crew behaves just as common sense demands in such kind of situation, cautiously excited...
Guy Pierce on the spaceship set ;D This may not mean anything but would love to see him have a bigger role than they originally said he would have.
Yes! I agree with you, Snowdog. I hope he has a rather large role.
Gosh. I'm so psyched right now.
Pure speculation here but i can't help to think this thing is a space jockey cryotube and david woke the demon (jockey) inside of it by playing around with the controls.
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Quote from: SM on Apr 26, 2012, 06:05:25 AM
Quote from: Snark on Apr 26, 2012, 05:59:15 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 26, 2012, 02:51:15 AMYeah I thought it had been mentioned it's a different system. I seem to recall 'LV-223' being bandied around.
They never said it was in another star system. That designation should refer to planetary cataloging only. This is most likely another moon in orbit of the Gas giant Parent of LV-426. Why else would they mention in the Weyland History do they mention discovery of LV-426?
Ham fisted homage. Especially for a planet that is unsurveyed over 80 years later and not settled for 120 years. Somehow over 300 other planets were more important.
Well, yes but what do they mean by "surveyed". Bear in mind we know now - for real - of over 1000 planets around other stars (and they're being found at an incredible rate). So perhaps the 300 only represents those that have been mapped in detail and had their resources characterised.
I have to admit I'm loving the footage and can't wait to see this movie. And some of you others might have to fight me for a piece of LMG's ass.
I felt the need to de-lurk and register (pulling an obscure bit of trivia from the Nostromo personnel files) to comment quickly on this featurette. Hi.
Lovely to see the Giger temple confirmed. That head does not look happy. I love that they're reaching all the way back to the Dune work.
I will stick up for Logan Marshall-Green. I'm not some avid fan or anything, but I have seen him in some other film and TV here and there and he's actually quite good; I believe he's done a lot on the New York stage. This in particular, from what I've seen, is a departure for him, playing a well-spoken scientist, but he pulls it off for me. As for the scene in the transport, well, that would appear to be the Holloway character - he's outlined in the Empire piece as a brash, "extreme sports" type of skeptic and researcher, all about impulsive action and adrenaline. A manchild with pretensions to wearing an ascot. And I think LMG is playing that quite well from what little we've seen.
Fassbender is definitely channeling Peter O'Toole's Lawrence and Dirk Bogarde in The Servant. Striding about with an prickle in his voice where you can't tell if he's genuine or just tired of these people.
All looking fantastic. Nothing quite as shiversomely brilliant as the David-8 advert, but I really couldn't be more excited about this film.
Quote from: JKS1 on Apr 26, 2012, 12:59:15 AM
Quote from: Virgil_uk on Apr 26, 2012, 12:51:19 AM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 26, 2012, 12:47:45 AM
What scene or half a second clip is causing you distress in terms of Logan's acting?
I'd imagine JKS1's referring to the 'whoop' given in the vehicle on the way to the temple.
Yep, not just the whoop - that whole scene - 2 seconds is easily enough to make me think 'I just dont believe you'
The AVP type 'ancient advanced civilization' scene he fronts in the trailer too doesnt inspire in me much confidence in his acting abilities either - a few seconds is enough - again - he just looks like hes 'acting'
at least Bill Paxton's 'whoops' were believable in 'Aliens'
Hammy Logan aside, the rest of the footage in that featurette looks absolutely superb :)
The soundtrack doesn't help this clip - but I think it's reasonable to show a kind of "immature" excitement for a fantastic new adventure. I think this is how the movie will pan out, starting as a jaw dropping, "innocent" family adventure, before turning into a gruesome horror than none of the characters anticipate. That would be fun, similar to the way the original Carrie film was structured - "Innocent" teen flick gets nasty.
Quote from: JKS1 on Apr 26, 2012, 12:44:32 AM
Marshal-Green's acting smells of decidedly amateur ham from the little I've seen so far
THAT certainly isnt looking good :o
(sorry think ive been hacked somehow)
Noomi's unmoved reaction actually makes this bit work. They look like a mismatched couple - that's interesting....
Quote from: bioweapon on Apr 26, 2012, 02:20:35 AM
confirmed at last 4 SJ blue space guy/ whatever but just holograms it seems
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43153.0;attach=669;image
the 4th is in the chair
Nice pic.
Are you saying the 3 large figures surrounding David are holograms? how do you know this? interesrting if true, maybe David activates some kind of hologram message left by the jockeys.
Quote from: escroto on Apr 26, 2012, 07:07:37 AM
David8 is freakin'out constantly like a kid as soon as they enter Giger's corridors. Not to mention when he reaches the chair chamber. Why does he start messing with the control panel? lol
Because they haven't someone in charge like Apone who'd tell them: "Nobody touch nothing!" ;)
But seriously, they are researchers and David's corporate interest is also doubled by his natural in-built curiosity. By the way has anybody espied David holds a pen-like object when he messes with the alien dashbord - is it a part of their Prometheus' gear or the "wand stick" he finds at the Pilot's bridge?..
Quote from: Snowdog on Apr 26, 2012, 07:56:56 AM
Guy Pierce on the spaceship set ;D This may not mean anything but would love to see him have a bigger role than they originally said he would have.
And all this room looks like his personal quaters aboard the ship - there is a row of white shirts on the rack and the niche with what looks like relics from the pictograms behind his back.
Aww.. and dusty gust scene is my favourite one in this featurette, with Shaw shouting "Go fast!" (or something like that) :)
That was great! Really great. I think it may be the last video I watch, though, unless I get
too tempted.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 26, 2012, 01:33:55 AM
Holy awesomeness...
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43153.0;attach=661;image
Thank you for my new wallpaper :D
Quote from: Snowdog on Apr 26, 2012, 08:09:07 AM
Pure speculation here but i can't help to think this thing is a space jockey cryotube and david woke the demon (jockey) inside of it by playing around with the controls.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg689.imageshack.us%2Fimg689%2F2715%2Fspacejockeycryotube.jpg&hash=3a72b270ad65c302b1058835001733d73ceaaf0a)
Seems possible - although I note the cryotube thing seems to have a ragged hole where the chest would be so I'm not sure the occupant is alive.
I like that shot though as it shows the chair/David relationship is such the SJ must be pretty big after all (although they like to sit low slung it would appear) and I can finally see the supposed puncture mark on the cryotubes which I could never make out on other pictures.
Quote from: bioweapon on Apr 26, 2012, 02:20:35 AM
confirmed at last 4 SJ blue space guy/ whatever but just holograms it seems
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43153.0;attach=669;image
the 4th is in the chair
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg214%2FRaybi3z%2F1-2.gif&hash=a1725a7f821887e5ef187e5c745d042e5f0812a8)
I wonder when people are going to finally adopt calling these guys Engineers, and the Engineer ship from Prometheus the "Juggernaut" (as it was referred to in the official Fox released "Sets and Props" article).
This could prevent more stupidass names like "Blue Guy" and the nonsensical re-use of the "Derelict".
amazing!!!
btw, did the ringed planet change positions?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLPl0K.jpg&hash=864bff3c0ea96452fa52644b7fadd6ec1de9c488)
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Quote from: Effectz on Apr 26, 2012, 10:53:21 AM
Quote from: bioweapon on Apr 26, 2012, 02:20:35 AM
confirmed at last 4 SJ blue space guy/ whatever but just holograms it seems
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43153.0;attach=669;image
the 4th is in the chair
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg214%2FRaybi3z%2F1-2.gif&hash=a1725a7f821887e5ef187e5c745d042e5f0812a8)
Wah never seen this.
Looks indeed as a hologram of them. but who knows.
Really got a strong feeling they will use David as there puppet and play him against the crew.
Quote from: Virgil_uk on Apr 26, 2012, 12:46:03 AM
I wonder if the music that's played at the beginning of the featurette is part of the score?
I HOPE NOT.
Quote from: JKS1 on Apr 26, 2012, 12:44:32 AM
Marshal-Green's acting smells of decidedly amateur ham from the little I've seen so far
THAT certainly isnt looking good :o
(sorry think ive been hacked somehow)
There's been nothing worst than logan marshal green since Brian austin Green. What is with those douchebags with big names scoring hot girls?
I hope it's not the music from the film. It was AWFUL.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 26, 2012, 12:03:45 PM
I hope it's not the music from the film. It was AWFUL.
+1
People who said that the Engineers\SJ weren't enormous can go blow themselves lol. Here's some solid proof that they're very big:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg707.imageshack.us%2Fimg707%2F5634%2Fdavidonnery4.gif&hash=2cbe675cfce50e43d4986aec5fd7c1df70187c29)
Compare them to David8.
Basically, NGR (I think his name was) who gave me shit in another thread for doubting his assertions based on the perspective of the camera angles (regarding jockey size). In particular, I remember using the shot of the SJ standing on top of the orrery console as an example that we had little to compare him to. Well, now we do and it's quite clear that they are massive compared to regular humans.
Keep in mind that while the univerze/planetary systems 'zoom in' the size of the engineers does not fluctuate. To me, this is quite indicative of their actual size.
this .gif also might explain why we have that hologram of the engineer running away. I think what we're going to see here is a recording of something bad about to happen and one of the engineers (The survivor) fleeing the scene.
Some very interesting visuals in this. Gotta agree about the dude's acting. He's pretty uninspired.
Love that face on the "pyramid" structure though. Freaking incredibly nightmarish.
WANT! MORE! :D
Quote from: Vulgotha on Apr 26, 2012, 01:41:05 PM
People who said that the Engineers\SJ weren't enormous can go blow themselves lol. Here's some solid proof that they're very big:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg707.imageshack.us%2Fimg707%2F5634%2Fdavidonnery4.gif&hash=2cbe675cfce50e43d4986aec5fd7c1df70187c29)
Compare them to David8.
Basically, NGR (I think his name was) who gave me shit in another thread for doubting his assertions based on the perspective of the camera angles (regarding jockey size). In particular, I remember using the shot of the SJ standing on top of the orrery console as an example that we had little to compare him to. Well, now we do and it's quite clear that they are massive compared to regular humans.
Keep in mind that while the univerze/planetary systems 'zoom in' the size of the engineers does not fluctuate. To me, this is quite indicative of their actual size.
this .gif also might explain why we have that hologram of the engineer running away. I think what we're going to see here is a recording of something bad about to happen and one of the engineers (The survivor) fleeing the scene.
Who said that they wern't big.
Quote from: Effectz on Apr 26, 2012, 01:46:22 PM
Quote from: Vulgotha on Apr 26, 2012, 01:41:05 PM
People who said that the Engineers\SJ weren't enormous can go blow themselves lol. Here's some solid proof that they're very big:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg707.imageshack.us%2Fimg707%2F5634%2Fdavidonnery4.gif&hash=2cbe675cfce50e43d4986aec5fd7c1df70187c29)
Compare them to David8.
Basically, NGR (I think his name was) who gave me shit in another thread for doubting his assertions based on the perspective of the camera angles (regarding jockey size). In particular, I remember using the shot of the SJ standing on top of the orrery console as an example that we had little to compare him to. Well, now we do and it's quite clear that they are massive compared to regular humans.
Keep in mind that while the univerze/planetary systems 'zoom in' the size of the engineers does not fluctuate. To me, this is quite indicative of their actual size.
this .gif also might explain why we have that hologram of the engineer running away. I think what we're going to see here is a recording of something bad about to happen and one of the engineers (The survivor) fleeing the scene.
Who said that they wern't big.
There was some drama about the size of the jockeys based on a few images. Most prominently the shot of him crouching in the orrery and standing up and the one with Shaw on the ground confronting
something in the Prometheus. All I said was that, from the perspective of the shots, it would be hard to assert that the jockey was 'definitely humans sized'. We'd need a more straight forward image.
Well I wouldn't really take the posts in this section to heart.
The face on the pyramid reminds me of the newborn in Alien 4 :/
Well then the look of the newborn must have been lifted from Gigers earlier work as clearly, the concept has been around since the 70s. The Newborn could've actually been scary if it had been puppetteered correctly. It moved terribly slow, and had ZERO menace to it. ADI couldn't get that great of a performance out of the creature.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fa0es1.png&hash=6cc970125c101213edad592f749db19a418cee86)
The sarcophagus looks damaged at the top.
Quote from: Vulgotha on Apr 26, 2012, 01:41:05 PM
People who said that the Engineers\SJ weren't enormous can go blow themselves lol. Here's some solid proof that they're very big:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg707.imageshack.us%2Fimg707%2F5634%2Fdavidonnery4.gif&hash=2cbe675cfce50e43d4986aec5fd7c1df70187c29)
Compare them to David8.
Basically, NGR (I think his name was) who gave me shit in another thread for doubting his assertions based on the perspective of the camera angles (regarding jockey size). In particular, I remember using the shot of the SJ standing on top of the orrery console as an example that we had little to compare him to. Well, now we do and it's quite clear that they are massive compared to regular humans.
Keep in mind that while the univerze/planetary systems 'zoom in' the size of the engineers does not fluctuate. To me, this is quite indicative of their actual size.
this .gif also might explain why we have that hologram of the engineer running away. I think what we're going to see here is a recording of something bad about to happen and one of the engineers (The survivor) fleeing the scene.
Where can I find the gif that shows the engineer running away?
I agree the Engineers are big. I never doubted it anyway. However, the one in Alien was a lot bigger. Its no big deal anyway. Most people (apart from fanboys) wont give a shit anyway - they will just think, "wow those guys are massive" :)
Also, so you think these guys are holograms? Someone also said that the 4th engineer is sitting on the chair. Can this person explain how they know this since I see nothing.
Quote from: Vulgotha on Apr 26, 2012, 01:41:05 PM
People who said that the Engineers\SJ weren't enormous can go blow themselves lol. Here's some solid proof that they're very big:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg707.imageshack.us%2Fimg707%2F5634%2Fdavidonnery4.gif&hash=2cbe675cfce50e43d4986aec5fd7c1df70187c29)
Compare them to David8.
Basically, NGR (I think his name was) who gave me shit in another thread for doubting his assertions based on the perspective of the camera angles (regarding jockey size). In particular, I remember using the shot of the SJ standing on top of the orrery console as an example that we had little to compare him to. Well, now we do and it's quite clear that they are massive compared to regular humans.
Keep in mind that while the univerze/planetary systems 'zoom in' the size of the engineers does not fluctuate. To me, this is quite indicative of their actual size.
this .gif also might explain why we have that hologram of the engineer running away. I think what we're going to see here is a recording of something bad about to happen and one of the engineers (The survivor) fleeing the scene.
It's also obvious from the size of the chair David sits in as well. the SJ are much bigger than humans, although I think Scott has dialed their size down a bit from the potential size implied in Alien (probably due to composition challenges I'd guess).
From what we've seen so far we're either going to get a mutated human who becomes a bit like a SJ or that plus some genuine SJ too. Just having mutated humans and nothing but hologram SJ would seem a little timid so I'm guessing we're going to see some large, genuine SJ too.
On another topic I'm curious about the running time vs the number of implied scenes we've seen so far (Earth based sequence, on-board briefing sequence, landing sequence, visit to temple sequence, Shaw removing the embryo sequence, fighting mutated crew members sequence, ramming the ship sequence, etc. etc).
Either the pace of this is going to be a lot closer to Aliens than Alien or these scenes merge very tightly together, otherwise I'm struggling to see this all fittng into the reported 119 minutes. I suppose it is possible that, like Alien, Scott has gone for a much slower pace initially then cranks it up to a non-stop fury of scenes for the bulk of the film.
Can't wait either way. Everything I've seen looks interesting and even though I don't buy the aliens visited Earth theory implied in the film for a moment I'll happily suspend belief if the film delivers the goods.
Quote from: Kev Loaf on Apr 26, 2012, 02:22:11 PM
The face on the pyramid reminds me of the newborn in Alien 4 :/
Actually the lips are more like Giger's Runner Alien, or his paintings and sculptures of Li.
Quote from: Effectz on Apr 26, 2012, 02:56:02 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fa0es1.png&hash=6cc970125c101213edad592f749db19a418cee86)
The sarcophagus looks damaged at the top.
looks as if the hologram will depict the engineers being attacked and infected with something that later bursts out of their chest when they go into the cryosleep. I guess only one Engineer escapes.
notice how much the derelict scene changed over time...
oh bitch plz, it's called juggernaught (?) now...
in the hologram it looks as tho the middle engineer is bending down like it's in pain and the one on the right may be holding a gun
Quote from: Kev Loaf on Apr 26, 2012, 03:07:26 PM
looks as if the hologram will depict the engineers being attacked and infected with something that later bursts out of their chest when they go into the cryosleep. I guess only one Engineer escapes.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2G6mF.gif&hash=6d42d282282e454e591d0c903ce90ec58619f376)
Quote from: Barringer on Apr 26, 2012, 03:06:57 AM
LV-223 could be another moon in orbit around the Jovian planet, but where I had read LV-223, there was some question as to whether that was a mistake on the part of the press report since some other detail was incorrect. Is it definitely confirmed that it's LV-223 and it wasn't a misreporting of LV-426?
The biggest indication that this isn't the same planetary system from ALIEN is the time it takes to get to LV-223. I think in ALIEN they stated that they were 10 months out from Earth. The crew of the Prometheus were in Cryo Sleep for 2.5 years.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 26, 2012, 02:34:14 PM
Well then the look of the newborn must have been lifted from Gigers earlier work as clearly, the concept has been around since the 70s. The Newborn could've actually been scary if it had been puppetteered correctly. It moved terribly slow, and had ZERO menace to it. ADI couldn't get that great of a performance out of the creature.
it was ugly, indeed, but it scared me. it was a 3-meter baby, that want to "cuddle" your head till it explodes. :o
i am a bit doubtful if the "creatures" in this movie will be scaring, or have an original design as the xenomorph.
not that at it should copy it, but aliens (in every sci-fi movie) in general, deserve an extraordinary design.
Quote from: Vulgotha on Apr 26, 2012, 01:41:05 PM
People who said that the Engineers\SJ weren't enormous can go blow themselves lol. Here's some solid proof that they're very big:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg707.imageshack.us%2Fimg707%2F5634%2Fdavidonnery4.gif&hash=2cbe675cfce50e43d4986aec5fd7c1df70187c29)
Compare them to David8.
Basically, NGR (I think his name was) who gave me shit in another thread for doubting his assertions based on the perspective of the camera angles (regarding jockey size). In particular, I remember using the shot of the SJ standing on top of the orrery console as an example that we had little to compare him to. Well, now we do and it's quite clear that they are massive compared to regular humans.
Keep in mind that while the univerze/planetary systems 'zoom in' the size of the engineers does not fluctuate. To me, this is quite indicative of their actual size.
Before getting allantsy to point fingers please learn to read.
NOBODY and i mean NO BO DY said that there were no giant Engineers.
That includes me.
Actual Engineer are GIANT.
It's a fact everyone has agreed upon.
Now what i've been saying is that there is also a character wich is human sized that is wearing an Engineer suit.
Who is that character is still open for discution (my take is David or Weyland).
3 images show that human sized Engineer suited character.
The one rising from the console is human sized, you just need to compare him to the shot where DAVID is kneeing near the console, check the console design and size you will see that the rising character is human sized...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg21.imageshack.us%2Fimg21%2F2318%2Fprometheusofficialfullh.jpg&hash=6b7422e97e44375069a9204067c5d21e3c9a5124)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg580.imageshack.us%2Fimg580%2F2318%2Fprometheusofficialfullh.jpg&hash=8cada078a64a96bcb5fda3a924042e7ed5116678)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg825.imageshack.us%2Fimg825%2F6152%2Fprometheustlrgh1080pmov.jpg&hash=532149d6aacc52531f1d3c1cda55d52202ead5f2)
BTW I've had confirmation of the human sized Engineer from the same person who told me about ARTHUR MAX vs GIGER...
Now you can go blow anything or anyone you like mate ;)
@ NGR01: i think the humanized space jockey will be holloway.
We don't know who ends up wearing a suit, or if there even is a suit......point in fact is that the latest spoilerific behind the scenes blurb mentioned that the crew of the Prometheus stumble upon a survivor of an ancient race (or something). Going ONLY BY WHAT WE KNOW (which is very little) it's safe to say that there's only ONE Jockey, and holograms depicting more.
ALL of this is speculation.
Kol,
really don't see an interesting story arc with Holloway.
To me his death will trigger Shaw's rage or something.
Thats all i see him doing.
He's no major actor, pure cannon fodder in my mind.
But i could be wrong.
But Weyland has an interesting story arc.
The wannabe god.The secrecy about his presence on board.
Same with David, how Ridley and co seems to be saying that he's not a regular David 8 but has become something more during the 2 years trip, also to me he's a potential Prometheus a higher being.
But i know some don't agree and see artificical human as lower.
ThisBethesdaSea,
very disapointed by the survivor thing really wanted to see several of them in action and not only Holograms.
Well it does give weight to my theory that they have been wiped outby xenos.
Whats exiting tho is that this planet is not their homeworld but some colony.
A sequel taking place in the home of the gods on Paradise, is possible ^^
Very cool footage. I thought David playing around with the SJ controls was cool. I don't think Logan Marshall-Greens acting is going to be bad, it's not amazing but it's fine.
Quote from: VickersAsh on Apr 26, 2012, 11:24:20 AM
amazing!!!
btw, did the ringed planet change positions?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLPl0K.jpg&hash=864bff3c0ea96452fa52644b7fadd6ec1de9c488)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxkrlZ.jpg&hash=68e4e467e5d1938218325d1a28ccd672560b8f9e)
Good catch. Two things are possible.*
1)
The FX team didn't do their homework (didn't hire me as a consultant), and they F@&Ked up. ;D
As Prometheus appears to have landed on a moon which is in orbit around a massive, gas giant, it is almost certain that the moon would be tidally locked to the parent gas giant. A tidally locked moon makes one revolution about it's axis in the same period as it makes one orbital revolution around it's partner planet. That means, it always shows the same face to the gas giant. This also means that the main "planet" will appear fixed at the same point in the sky, for any given observer's location on the moon (presuming they are on the hemisphere which faces the planet, of course). As an example, the Apollo astronauts would always see the Earth in a fixed, unchanging position in the sky.
This situation occurs with the Earth-Moon system, as well as the moons around Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. Pluto and Charon are approx. the same size, and they are mutually tidally locked. Therefore, unless the Prometheus ship moved, and changed orientation, this could be an oversight/mistake on the part of the production team.
2) Per my last point...it is possible that the Prometheus has moved position and orientation between these film sequences/clips. I suppose it is even possible that they have left one moon, and moved on to another moon in the system.
*EDIT: I may have been too hasty in my analysis. Looking closer at the two pics, it does appear that the ringed planet remains "behind" the front of the Prometheus (with the Prometheus bow/cockpit facing the camera)...at least in these two pics. The small change in the planet's relative position is simply a change in the perspective/view of the two shots of the Prometheus.
Comparatively, LMG's acting will stick out juxtaposed to who he's acting with. Everyone else appears to blow him outta the water acting wise. At least he's pretty to look at. Strangely enough, he's 36 but looks 22.
Quote from: Deuterium on Apr 26, 2012, 04:32:42 PM
Quote from: VickersAsh on Apr 26, 2012, 11:24:20 AM
amazing!!!
btw, did the ringed planet change positions?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLPl0K.jpg&hash=864bff3c0ea96452fa52644b7fadd6ec1de9c488)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxkrlZ.jpg&hash=68e4e467e5d1938218325d1a28ccd672560b8f9e)
Good catch. Two things are possible.
1) The FX team didn't do their homework (didn't hire me as a consultant), and they F@&Ked up. ;D
As Prometheus appears to have landed on a moon which is in orbit around a massive, gas giant, it is almost certain that the moon would be tidally locked to the parent gas giant. A tidally locked moon makes one revolution about it's axis in the same period as it makes one orbital revolution around it's partner planet. That means, it always shows the same face to the gas giant. This also means that the main "planet" will appear fixed at the same point in the sky, for any given observer's location on the moon (presuming they are on the hemisphere which faces the planet, of course). As an example, the Apollo astronauts would always see the Earth in a fixed, unchanging position in the sky.
This situation occurs with the Earth-Moon system, as well as the moons around Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. Pluto and Charon are approx. the same size, and they are mutually tidally locked. Therefore, unless the Prometheus ship moved, and changed orientation, this could be an oversight/mistake on the part of the production team.
2) Per my last point...it is possible that the Prometheus has moved position and orientation between these film sequences/clips. I suppose it is even possible that they have left one moon, and moved on to another moon in the system.
A lot of shots that are in more than one trailer/featurette have flipped sides.
For example when Shaw jumps the gap.
And other things have been changed over time as we all know.
Quote from: LarsVader on Apr 26, 2012, 04:41:38 PM
A lot of shots that are in more than one trailer/featurette have flipped sides.
For example when Shaw jumps the gap.
And other things have been changed over time as we all know.
Well, I guess that would make a third possibility. However, when the film is finished (in the can, so to speak), then possibility #1 holds, and the planet should stay in the same position in the sky, relative to the observer. In other words, if we see the planet "behind" the front of the Prometheus at one point in the film (and assuming the Prometheus doesn't move), then we shouldn't see it on the opposite side, in some other shot. For example, when we are viewing the crew convoy either approaching or moving away from the front of the Prometheus, then the planet should never appear "behind" the convoy, as that is the opposite part of the sky.
Also, the large angle/inclination of the planet's rings, as observed from the moon, makes for an aesthetically pleasing image...but not one that would be typical. Even "artistic" paintings of Saturn, as hypothetically viewed from the surface of one of it's moons, typically show the rings at a significant angle. However, this is not the case in reality. In reality, on Saturn's natural moons, the rings would be almost invisible, since the moons orbit almost exactly along the same plane as Saturn's rings...and the rings are so incredibly "thin" when viewed edge-on. The exception would be small, captured moons, which were not an original part of the Saturn-moon system. Captured moons (typically very small in relation to the natural moons) can orbit at extreme angles in relation to the planet's rotational plane (and rings).
Quote from: Vulgotha on Apr 26, 2012, 01:41:05 PMthis .gif also might explain why we have that hologram of the engineer running away. I think what we're going to see here is a recording of something bad about to happen and one of the engineers (The survivor) fleeing the scene.
that sounds pretty good, but there're a couple of problems. First, the engineer boy approaching head on David8 is no hologram, and second, If Shaw says somewhere in the film "they are living" that means there are engineers over there.
I like the engineer part fleeing too. You mean the derelict dude being a rogue and then getting his punishment?
Quote from: escroto on Apr 26, 2012, 05:19:17 PM
Quote from: Vulgotha on Apr 26, 2012, 01:41:05 PMthis .gif also might explain why we have that hologram of the engineer running away. I think what we're going to see here is a recording of something bad about to happen and one of the engineers (The survivor) fleeing the scene.
that sounds pretty good, but there're a couple of problems. First, the engineer boy approaching head on David8 is no hologram, and second, If Shaw says somewhere in the film "they are living" that means there are engineers over there.
I like the engineer part fleeing too. You mean the derelict dude being a rogue and then getting his punishment?
Personally I think there is a very good chance that is not an engineer but the mutated crew member in the running hologram. I saw this because of the appearence of dome or globe around the head and what appears to be a box-like protrusion on the back. I think it's a human all suited up. Could certainly be wrong though.
Unless she's playing a Mexican she says 'They are leaving'.
I'm pretty sure she doesn't say any such thing anyway. At least, if we're talking about the same clip from the trailer.
"They're leaving." - David
"To go where?" - Shaw
"Earth." - David.
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Apr 26, 2012, 03:30:25 PM
The biggest indication that this isn't the same planetary system from ALIEN is the time it takes to get to LV-223. I think in ALIEN they stated that they were 10 months out from Earth. The crew of the Prometheus were in Cryo Sleep for 2.5 years.
Perhaps, but keep in mind that this is in 2085, and Alien is in 2122. It was a ten month trip in 2122. In Aliens, set in 2179, it was a three week trip. Their FTL technology seems to improve its speed rather rapidly.
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The face at 0:35 WOW.
Does anyone know if the music in the beginning of the featurette is Marc Streitenfeld's?
Quote from: escroto on Apr 26, 2012, 07:07:37 AM
Quote from: Barringer on Apr 26, 2012, 06:48:53 AM
I got the impression with that line that David was being flippant and deprecating toward his human colleagues, rather than commenting on their level of technology.
David8 is freakin'out constantly like a kid as soon as they enter Giger's corridors. Not to mention when he reaches the chair chamber. Why does he start messing with the control panel? lol
The rest of the crew behaves just as common sense demands in such kind of situation, cautiously excited...
yes that´s very Ash/Bishop reaction, but David steal the show :laugh:
Okay after seeing this new clip I am now convinced that the face at 0:52 opens its eyes and comes alive at some point and the shot at 0:38 when they're racing back from sandstorm Shaw is holding some sort of bag, maybe they steal something they shouldn't?
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 11:00:12 AM
I wonder when people are going to finally adopt calling these guys Engineers, and the Engineer ship from Prometheus the "Juggernaut" (as it was referred to in the official Fox released "Sets and Props" article).
This could prevent more stupidass names like "Blue Guy" and the nonsensical re-use of the "Derelict".
They 'were' Engineers before they become "Space Jockeys" and the Juggernaut is still a 'Derelict' since it crashed and is just a pile of scrap metal.
What Shaw has in the bag is the helmet from a Jockey suit. Call me crazy, but I don't think the rock formation comes alive. Check The Neverending Story....;)
Loved Neverending Story as a kid lol. I'm not advocating that the face starts to walk and talk but i'm willing to bet those eyes open at some point. Oh and how creepy that will be...can't wait!
Again....does anyone know if the music at the beginning of the featurette is from the official soundtrack?
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 26, 2012, 10:55:53 PM
Again....does anyone know if the music at the beginning of the featurette is from the official soundtrack?
Our guess is as good as yours, but I really hope that was not from the soundtrack. Sounded terrible!
Quote from: LarsVader on Apr 26, 2012, 06:01:13 PM
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The single image of the face at 35 seconds in is superior to anything i have seen since Aliens.
LOL at Obelix breaking the nose off the "Sphinx" :-)
Quote from: VickersAsh on Apr 26, 2012, 11:24:20 AM
amazing!!!
btw, did the ringed planet change positions?
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No.
The planet they're sitting on probably did though.
And probably not on the equatorial plane just to make for more interesting backgrounds.
maybe that shot is mirror imaged, sometimes shots in trailers are (mirror imaged from how they actually will be in the movie)
Dope the top of the pyramid has a alien skeleton head :laugh:
Great stuff... and still 5 weeks to go :)