AMC Theatres Trailer:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU#ws)
- Download link (1080p, 170 MB): http://www.mediafire.com/?722r138oj10fa12 (http://www.mediafire.com/?722r138oj10fa12)
- 93 Screencaps: http://imageshack.us/g/692/prometheusofficialfullhp.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/g/692/prometheusofficialfullhp.jpg/)
International Trailer:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk#ws)
- Download link (1080p, 770 MB): Link (http://www.mediafire.com/?q9gch5ifkyz6a4d,rw34t2bo6ddnbdd,2ms6dhb2yh9rhif,oohmsnkkxp107pp)
The trailer is so awesome ;D i just love it 8)
f**k Me ! I can't believe It. It's totally amazing.
No words... :o
Brilliant trailer!,time to analyze people !! :laugh:
Guys, 1:37. What's that look like kinda like to you?
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Well, isn't THAT something?
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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 17, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
Guys, 1:37. What's that look like kinda like to you?
i swear it's a xenomorph
This creepy incessant hawling in the end sent me shivers!!!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 17, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
Guys, 1:37. What's that look like kinda like to you?
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Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 17, 2012, 11:45:11 PM
Well, isn't THAT something?
http://i.imgur.com/pEkmK.png
happy to know i wasn't the only one that noticed that right away. It looks a lot like a xenomorph.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 17, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
Guys, 1:37. What's that look like kinda like to you?
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Giger's supposed murals! :P
...But you got what I mean!
Quote from: Zeta Reticuli on Mar 17, 2012, 11:45:35 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 17, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
Guys, 1:37. What's that look like kinda like to you?
i swear it's a xenomorph
Um... Yeah, it most definitely looks like one, and I can not think of what else it could be, aint no mixing up a Jockey and Xeno here. That my friends is most likely a Xeno Alien.
But it also looks to be just like Scott said and is a mural or one of the murals that Giger designed for him. This is what I am thinking... Anthony
TOTALLY NOT AN ALIEN PREQUEL.
TOTALLY.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 17, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
Guys, 1:37. What's that look like kinda like to you?
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It's a .... Beeeautiful Butterfly.
yeah we got all we want,a xeno mural in the wall...but why it is there?
This takes the teasers atmosphere and tone, and just totally supercharges it, f**king incredible trailer.
Now please don't let us down Ridley.
I've made a saveyoutube link so you can download it in it's 1080p glory MP4 format:
http://saveyoutube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU&feature=player_embedded (http://saveyoutube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU&feature=player_embedded)
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A great trailer, the new footage was very interesting.
But so far, nothing has given me the same creeps as the first trailer.
wow that trailer was awsome and im not just saying that as a Alien fan. best high for me this year so far, me thinks.
Deagol at 0:18 ;D
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Quote from: Eva on Mar 17, 2012, 11:50:10 PM
I've made a saveyoutube link so you can download it in it's 1080p glory MP4 format:
http://saveyoutube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU&feature=player_embedded (http://saveyoutube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU&feature=player_embedded)
I figure about half this site just did that and now is running it is super slow-mo through VLC.
New images of the Space Jockey:
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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 17, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
Guys, 1:37. What's that look like kinda like to you?
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OH BOY.
YES!!!! Xenomorph in the wall! Front and center 1:37!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 17, 2012, 11:52:35 PM
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This shot is awesome.
Just watched it again and i must admit i was worried the more we saw of this with each new trailer i was going to see something i really didn't like,i'm happy to say the complete opposite is true.
Best trailer yet imo,anyone notice the guy at the beginning that seems to be changing mutating?
Also Blue man group actually looked pretty cool :laugh:
Un-f**king believably awesome. The last half of that trailer is heart attack inducing. Faith restored.
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Awesome.
MY GOD.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 17, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
Guys, 1:37. What's that look like kinda like to you?
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so there's only a mural and no real xeno on the film ??
at first I even thought it was the queen and almost fainted ......... :P
Did anyone notice android David mimicking ASH from alien?He just smiled like ash at the end of the trailer
at 1:03 does anyone else think that looks like the alien tomb painting from gigers alien book ..... or is it just me ?
The space jockey legs. You can see it still has some biomechanical features 8) and tbh i quite like the leg design even though it's pretty human looking. I was most worried about the legs.
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Whats goin on here then?
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Holy crap. The first shot alone, in 1080p, is one of the most beautiful shots I've ever seen. I can only imagine how incredible this movie is going to look on the big screen.
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 17, 2012, 11:53:07 PM
New images of the Space Jockey:
http://i.imgur.com/Az9as.png
http://i.imgur.com/CE36I.png
http://i.imgur.com/DJtHb.png
this dude is also in the ship at the end chasing shaw. but it's weird cause judging by the other teaser too, his head seems human like,not the elephantine head like in the imax trailer.also he is wearing a dark suit. the thing in the chair had lighter color arms and torso. could it be that there are really 2 types of space jockeys?
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:13 PM
at 1:03 does anyone else think that looks like the alien tomb painting from gigers alien book ..... or is it just me ?
Yes that temple is very reminiscent of the original egg-silo designs.
Quote from: Black on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:39 PM
Whats goin on here then?
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they're removing the "snake" ?? ???
Quote from: Snowdog on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:29 PM
The space jockey legs. You can see it still has some biomechanical features 8) and tbh i quite like the leg design even though it's pretty human looking. I was most worried about the legs.
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Really impressive.
Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:49 PM
this dude is also in the ship at the end chasing shaw. but it's weird cause judging by the other teaser too, his head seems human like,not the elephantine head like in the imax trailer.also he is wearing a dark suit. the thing in the chair had lighter color arms and torso. could it be that there are really 2 types of space jockeys?
I thought the exoskeleton was some sort of suit.
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 17, 2012, 11:55:35 PM
http://i.imgur.com/3c0XM.png
http://i.imgur.com/gvHkC.png
Awesome.
that dude is not big enough to fit in the chair. he is tall, but not giant. and the design of his suit doesn't look like the the suits on that hallway
Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:49 PM
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 17, 2012, 11:53:07 PM
New images of the Space Jockey:
http://i.imgur.com/Az9as.png
http://i.imgur.com/CE36I.png
http://i.imgur.com/DJtHb.png
this dude is also in the ship at the end chasing shaw. but it's weird cause judging by the other teaser too, his head seems human like,not the elephantine head like in the imax trailer.also he is wearing a dark suit. the thing in the chair had lighter color arms and torso. could it be that there are really 2 types of space jockeys?
the space jockey we know is a suit. If u watch the imax trailer carefully. and this one too (from what i can remember) the space jockey suit is opening up. Either making way for this guy to enter it or to come out of it
Quote from: Snowdog on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:29 PM
The space jockey legs. You can see it still has some biomechanical features 8) and tbh i quite like the leg design even though it's pretty human looking. I was most worried about the legs.
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So fay my favourite scene from the trailer, but look closer at his arm - he is a human in a suit or somewhat!
Well now we know the Jockeys head is a helmet, that we saw in ALIEN
Quote from: Black on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:39 PM
Whats goin on here then?
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looks like a skin coloured alien embryo has just been surgically removed from Shaw's stomach.
You can see an umbilical cord of sorts too.
the other teaser actually had alot of stuff that was not in this one , the serpent thing in the arm for instance , kinda made me more confused
but i do kinda get the impression the alien at 1:37 was just to shut ppl up and to get them to move on from the alien prequel thing.
my take on it is the guy at the end with shaw in what i'm guessing is the prometheus is one of the crew members (holloway?) after becoming biomechanical, or could be david after the same process? the 'Jockey' in the other part activating the chair is a different entity
There's this, from the YT description from AMC...
"When one side dispatches a team to a distant planet to terraform it for human colonization"
And this on the Weyland Corporate Timeline...
"Weyland astronomers discover multiple moons and a ringed planet just outside the Zeta 2 Reticula System, which are possibly able to support life. Weyland expects to travel there within the century."
Interesting. Add the ringed planet seen in the trailer and it lays some pretty big hints that this could indeed be the Acheron system.
Quote from: nendo on Mar 17, 2012, 11:59:37 PM
Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:49 PM
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 17, 2012, 11:53:07 PM
New images of the Space Jockey:
http://i.imgur.com/Az9as.png
http://i.imgur.com/CE36I.png
http://i.imgur.com/DJtHb.png
this dude is also in the ship at the end chasing shaw. but it's weird cause judging by the other teaser too, his head seems human like,not the elephantine head like in the imax trailer.also he is wearing a dark suit. the thing in the chair had lighter color arms and torso. could it be that there are really 2 types of space jockeys?
the space jockey we know is a suit. If u watch the imax trailer carefully. and this one too (from what i can remember) the space jockey suit is opening up. Either making way for this guy to enter it or to come out of it
Zuzuki does have a point though - it seems like there is a major disparity between the size of the Space Jockey in Alien and the size of this guy.
Quote from: Snowdog on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:29 PM
The space jockey legs. You can see it still has some biomechanical features 8) and tbh i quite like the leg design even though it's pretty human looking. I was most worried about the legs.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg84.imageshack.us%2Fimg84%2F3010%2Fvlcsnap2012031800h50m24.png&hash=684b7c84ee9648b835632b2144b33594667831af)
I loved this shot, however brief. Very very impressed.
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 18, 2012, 12:03:00 AM
Quote from: nendo on Mar 17, 2012, 11:59:37 PM
Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:49 PM
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 17, 2012, 11:53:07 PM
New images of the Space Jockey:
http://i.imgur.com/Az9as.png
http://i.imgur.com/CE36I.png
http://i.imgur.com/DJtHb.png
this dude is also in the ship at the end chasing shaw. but it's weird cause judging by the other teaser too, his head seems human like,not the elephantine head like in the imax trailer.also he is wearing a dark suit. the thing in the chair had lighter color arms and torso. could it be that there are really 2 types of space jockeys?
the space jockey we know is a suit. If u watch the imax trailer carefully. and this one too (from what i can remember) the space jockey suit is opening up. Either making way for this guy to enter it or to come out of it
Zuzuki does have a point though - it seems like there is a major disparity between the size of the Space Jockey in Alien and the size of this guy.
There most certainly is. That big guy is a human, not a Jockey.
Great stuff! So that's Ian Whyte as the Jockey? That's what I was most impressed with. I wasn't so sure about the Jockey for the longest time now I can put my fears to rest.
Wether or not that mural was done by Giger... i want that shit on my living room :laugh:
Nice shot of Scottish scenery that Rapace was wandering around :)
So EPIC!
Ridley Scott is my new God. Heck, you should join me and worship him every day after lunch.
I enjoyed the Q&A too, much more substance than the one with Charlize and Michael. Ridley's such a joker at times, he really cracks me up. Damon was great too.
CAN'T WAIT!
Quote from: Black on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:39 PM
Whats goin on here then?
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Look closely above her kneecap....IS IT A CHESTBURSTER OR OUR WHİTE SERPENT/SNAKE LIKE PROGENITOR?
Quote from: mcknife on Mar 18, 2012, 12:05:45 AM
Quote from: Black on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:39 PM
Whats goin on here then?
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Look closely above her kneecap....IS IT A CHESTBURSTER OR OUR WHİTE SERPENT/SNAKE LIKE PROGENITOR?
It's most certainly some alien creature. Possibly same as the one that we see scooting into the arm in the IMAX preview.
2:04
Go in slow mo
what is that snakelike thing...?
Based on Ridley saying he was embarrassed about something similar to the chest burster scene. I'm going to say a snake pops out her vajay jay .
Quote from: Black on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:39 PM
Whats goin on here then?
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Looks like the space jockey mask being put into place over her head? Like the face/trunk part of it anyway... which would add up with the back/skull part of it being part of the seat? Hmm.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 17, 2012, 11:57:20 PM
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:13 PM
at 1:03 does anyone else think that looks like the alien tomb painting from gigers alien book ..... or is it just me ?
Yes that temple is very reminiscent of the original egg-silo designs.
Out of interest Chris, seeing as we agreed the "blue man" couldn't be the space jockey because of scale issues, what's your take on it after this trailer?
I think either the real space jockeys are being hidden from us until the film, or the suit somehow enlarges this guy until he basically becomes the fossilised thing from the 79 movie (I don't mean literally, it probably isn't the same ship). I still wouldn't be surprised if it's the former, and the shot of the mini-space jockey (with the suit forming) is actually of a human using their technology. Well actually I'm kinda hoping.
Either way, based on this trailer this still looks like the most impressive sci-fi for at least a decade if not much longer.
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That mural looks to be one of those found at the top of the door frames. A bit like gargoyles on cathedrals, except in this movie they can make those gargoyles....
We need screen caps from each scene pronto lol
Can anyone screencap the last scene of trailer?
Anroid David is smiling and his mimics reminds me android ash from alien...very nice reference i think
The snake like creature is being held in position above her.
Also, note the jockey arms in this picture, just slightly above and left of center, they are way larger than that of the big blue guy?
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Logan marshall's character gets infected (u see his eyes change in imax trailer)
he has sex with noomi repace (1st official trailer u see him holding his head with noomi in bed naked behind him)
later she has massive bulging stomach (in first leaked trailer & she screams horrifically)
now in new 1080 trailer u see something has been removed from her stomach with umbilical cord still attached when she's in the glass pod and it looks like a strange smooth chest burster?
i think this is the creature that impregnates the space jockey... giving birth to the first official A L I E N we know & love?
Quote from: mcknife on Mar 18, 2012, 12:05:45 AM
Quote from: Black on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:39 PM
Whats goin on here then?
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Look closely above her kneecap....IS IT A CHESTBURSTER OR OUR WHİTE SERPENT/SNAKE LIKE PROGENITOR?
It's a chestbuster cousin for sure! And I think it's safe to say that Shaw is using the fully automated surgical station (cited in the Weyland's site timeline) to remove it!
Quote from: mcknife on Mar 18, 2012, 12:09:43 AM
Can anyone screencap the last scene of trailer?
Anroid David is smiling and his mimics reminds me android ash from alien...very nice reference i think
My pleasure:
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Judging by this and the imax trailer it appears that the space jockey image we know is actualy part of the chair.
In A L I E N Kane says it looks like its outgrown the chair or something. But from this trailer it appears that the space jockey suit is actualy part of the chair and wraps itself around the thing sat in the chair.
Im guessing that its part organic so it will grow. So im assuming that in alien the ship crashed on lv 426 the pilot died but the suit continued to grow for centuries after. which is why it began to grow out of the chair
We see a clear picture of the Space Jockey, one like the one in Alien, in that trailer. Oh shit, this trailer was amazing.
What I'm confused about, is that it seems like one of the crew members will become all bio mechanical and all, but at the beginning of the trailer we see the "blue man" in the waterfall scene with the big flying saucer. So, I have no idea what to think. I just know that it's going to be amazing.
I wonder what the significance of Charlize's dialog at the beginning of the trailer has in the movie.
"A king has his reign, and then he dies. It's inevidable."
Could it be that the "king" is Peter Weyland perhaps? Or our Creator?
Quote from: cockroach on Mar 18, 2012, 12:10:22 AM
Logan marshall's character gets infected (u see his eyes change in imax trailer)
he has sex with noomi repace (1st official trailer u see him holding his head with noomi in bed naked behind him)
later she has massive bulging stomach (in first leaked trailer & she screams horrifically)
now in new 1080 trailer u see something has been removed from her stomach with umbilical cord still attached when she's in the glass pod and it looks like a strange smooth chest burster?
i think this is the creature that impregnates the space jockey... giving birth to the first official A L I E N we know & love?
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Except the wall mural says different
This snakelike thing looks a bit like eel:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi239.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff244%2F000Master000%2FBeztytuu.png&hash=65fff05ba787c2e98b15db6b75dbadd6faf997c3)
Quote from: Black on Mar 18, 2012, 12:11:35 AM
Quote from: mcknife on Mar 18, 2012, 12:09:43 AM
Can anyone screencap the last scene of trailer?
Anroid David is smiling and his mimics reminds me android ash from alien...very nice reference i think
My pleasure:
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thank you so much black
when i saw first time his smiling i thought i was watching alien and "company's bad android" ASH!
Quote from: Master on Mar 18, 2012, 12:14:15 AM
This snakelike thing looks a bit like eel:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi239.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff244%2F000Master000%2FBeztytuu.png&hash=65fff05ba787c2e98b15db6b75dbadd6faf997c3)
Proto chestburster?
This guy is interesting:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1101.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg425%2Fmrmagoo6%2Fuh.png&hash=b9a40b328c99016db05ef47ae886ca4dc374fe6f)
Wow, that was amazing. Breathtaking, even. Without a doubt, my most anticipated movie of the year. And my anticipation keeps escalating with every tidbit of info we get. This trailer blew my mind!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 17, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
Guys, 1:37. What's that look like kinda like to you?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2FCorpral_Hicks%2FUntitled-2.png&hash=dd020211ce893482f93ba9f67bf8fb0f986dd658)
I honestly didn't even notice that in my first view! Excuse me, I'm about to go watch it another twelve times!
Oh, did anyone else get a bit of an AVP vibe when they were discussing the ancient civilizations?
This type of movie was long overdue.
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Now i can't find the bigger picture but if you look at the details between the legs of this statues, the legs in that body they find in the ampule room and the legs on that thing on the prometheus you will see a difference. the one on the ship is more streamlined,more sleak.
Also the guy in the begginning of the trailer, the way he looks at his hands(almost in awe).
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I came up once with the theory that David could probably be morphed somehow,transformed into a living thing with jockey tech. And after i saw lately i think i'm right. There seems to be a lot of attention given to David, how he is made to pretend to be human, how he closely examines those samples and that eerie vibe he got at the end of this trailer. Also did you noticed in the trailers we only see him in the lab and then at the beginning examining those rooms? After that when the action bits start he seems to be missing from all the shots, my guess cause he is the one being transformed into some bio mechanical thing, and those scars on the arms and head are because of the ,,surgery''
Quote from: cockroach on Mar 18, 2012, 12:10:22 AM
now in new 1080 trailer u see something has been removed from her stomach with umbilical cord still attached when she's in the glass pod and it looks like a strange smooth chest burster?
Nah, not from her stomach. In the scene where we see her leaning against a wall, with hardly any clothes and lots of black "blood", there is no scratch on her stomach. I am guessing it comes out through the throat. This is something that was a concept back in the days of Alien, but they decided to go with the chest bursting instead (probably due to the difficulty of making a prop appear from within the mouth while still looking good on camera). It would awesomely gruesome if it did indeed come out of the throat... I'd choke my snacks seeing that ;)
Does anybody else think the Jockey has a tragic quality to him? I know he's supposed to be the bad guy here but that moment in the first part of the trailer he seemed rather sad. Curious.
Peter Weyland (guy pearce) is on the prometheus!?
he's the old guy in the suit in back when the are firing the guns?
The greek goddesses (and gods) frequently gave birth to all sorts of monstrosities. This movie is more tied up in mythology than some would want.
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 18, 2012, 12:16:53 AM
Quote from: Master on Mar 18, 2012, 12:14:15 AM
This snakelike thing looks a bit like eel:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi239.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff244%2F000Master000%2FBeztytuu.png&hash=65fff05ba787c2e98b15db6b75dbadd6faf997c3)
Proto chestburster?
This guy is interesting:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1101.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg425%2Fmrmagoo6%2Fuh.png&hash=b9a40b328c99016db05ef47ae886ca4dc374fe6f)
I think he's Prometheus.
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 18, 2012, 12:16:53 AM
Quote from: Master on Mar 18, 2012, 12:14:15 AM
This snakelike thing looks a bit like eel:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi239.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff244%2F000Master000%2FBeztytuu.png&hash=65fff05ba787c2e98b15db6b75dbadd6faf997c3)
Proto chestburster?
This guy is interesting:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1101.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg425%2Fmrmagoo6%2Fuh.png&hash=b9a40b328c99016db05ef47ae886ca4dc374fe6f)
first human maybe?from creation of mankind scene
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 18, 2012, 12:17:09 AM
Wow, that was amazing. Breathtaking, even. Without a doubt, my most anticipated movie of the year. And my anticipation keeps escalating with every tidbit of info we get. This trailer blew my mind!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 17, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
Guys, 1:37. What's that look like kinda like to you?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2FCorpral_Hicks%2FUntitled-2.png&hash=dd020211ce893482f93ba9f67bf8fb0f986dd658)
I honestly didn't even notice that in my first view! Excuse me, I'm about to go watch it another twelve times!
Oh, did anyone else get a bit of an AVP vibe when they were discussing the ancient civilizations?
Yeah I did. Mr. Weyland, travel to our roots. Quite similar.
Am I the only one reminded of the old plot overview that Fox had removed off IMDB?
We all know the alien takes on the form of the host. What if the space jockey is human like because it came from shaw so it took on the appearance of shaw. Which will explain why in the scenes its humanoid
This trailer is AWESOME!!!!!
Quote from: deepelemblues on Mar 18, 2012, 12:18:53 AM
I think he's Prometheus.
That seems likely given the material that was supposed to be filmed at the waterfall.
Quote from: Eldritch on Mar 18, 2012, 12:17:35 AM
Nah, not from her stomach. In the scene where we see her leaning against a wall, with hardly any clothes and lots of black "blood", there is no scratch on her stomach. I am guessing it comes out through the throat. This is something that was a concept back in the days of Alien, but they decided to go with the chest bursting instead (probably due to the difficulty of making a prop appear from within the mouth while still looking good on camera). It would awesomely gruesome if it did indeed come out of the throat... I'd choke my snacks seeing that ;)
There are other places it could come out of, and I think the theory that she may be impregnated by something is more likely given some of the other statements referenced here.
I wish people would stop trying to find the literal ties to the Alien creature itself. The Mural thing, which is only vaguely similar beyond being gigerian or gigeresque... We're not going to see something and have it fan-wankily be "The Proton Chestburster." Why oh why can't we enjoy the idea of
new things?
Trailer is friggin awesome.
In the scene where shaw is looking in a mirror there appears to be soething that momentarily pops out fo her mouth and then back in again?
Theres also some blood spattered onto the walls, this would go with the theory of the thing coming out her throat?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi42.tinypic.com%2F5bspyp.jpg&hash=bd6dbe8ed0e70a8635e486dc94a2b607155e4f73)
Quote from: Eldritch on Mar 18, 2012, 12:17:35 AM
Quote from: cockroach on Mar 18, 2012, 12:10:22 AM
now in new 1080 trailer u see something has been removed from her stomach with umbilical cord still attached when she's in the glass pod and it looks like a strange smooth chest burster?
Nah, not from her stomach. In the scene where we see her leaning against a wall, with hardly any clothes and lots of black "blood", there is no scratch on her stomach. I am guessing it comes out through the throat. This is something that was a concept back in the days of Alien, but they decided to go with the chest bursting instead (probably due to the difficulty of making a prop appear from within the mouth while still looking good on camera). It would awesomely gruesome if it did indeed come out of the throat... I'd choke my snacks seeing that ;)
DEF comes out of her stomach see attached pic from 1st leaked trailer ...
Anybody see what looks like the shape of the Alien at 1:36? Attached to the wall.
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Jockey.
Spoiler
Oh and nice of them to show Janek committing suicide.
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 12:07:56 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 17, 2012, 11:57:20 PM
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:13 PM
at 1:03 does anyone else think that looks like the alien tomb painting from gigers alien book ..... or is it just me ?
Yes that temple is very reminiscent of the original egg-silo designs.
Out of interest Chris, seeing as we agreed the "blue man" couldn't be the space jockey because of scale issues, what's your take on it after this trailer?
I think either the real space jockeys are being hidden from us until the film, or the suit somehow enlarges this guy until he basically becomes the fossilised thing from the 79 movie (I don't mean literally, it probably isn't the same ship). I still wouldn't be surprised if it's the former, and the shot of the mini-space jockey (with the suit forming) is actually of a human using their technology. Well actually I'm kinda hoping.
Either way, based on this trailer this still looks like the most impressive sci-fi for at least a decade if not much longer.
I am convinced that the 'blue guy' is some kind of slave, a keeper of the ship if you like. I think that the actual Space Jockey is something else that is not shown in this trailer or is not even in the film at all. Whoever that chair was build for, it was not this guy unless he somehow grows into it as you say.
It seems that the real threat is some kind of nano-bio-tech-something, which means anything is possible.
Quote from: ikarop on Mar 17, 2012, 11:39:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU#ws)
Download link (1080p): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4083772/Prometheus%20-%20Official%20Full%20HD%20Trailer_AvPGalaxy.net.rar (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4083772/Prometheus%20-%20Official%20Full%20HD%20Trailer_AvPGalaxy.net.rar)
*sniffs* So beautiful! :'(
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 18, 2012, 12:25:40 AM
Spoiler
Oh and nice of them to show Janek committing suicide.
eh ?
Quote from: cockroach on Mar 18, 2012, 12:24:50 AM
Quote from: Eldritch on Mar 18, 2012, 12:17:35 AM
Quote from: cockroach on Mar 18, 2012, 12:10:22 AM
now in new 1080 trailer u see something has been removed from her stomach with umbilical cord still attached when she's in the glass pod and it looks like a strange smooth chest burster?
Nah, not from her stomach. In the scene where we see her leaning against a wall, with hardly any clothes and lots of black "blood", there is no scratch on her stomach. I am guessing it comes out through the throat. This is something that was a concept back in the days of Alien, but they decided to go with the chest bursting instead (probably due to the difficulty of making a prop appear from within the mouth while still looking good on camera). It would awesomely gruesome if it did indeed come out of the throat... I'd choke my snacks seeing that ;)
DEF comes out of her stomach see attached pic from 1st leaked trailer ...
Well, it indicates
movement in the stomach region, but does not confirm anything about something bursting out of there. My bet is still on it coming out through the throat. It would be different, unexpected, and totally grauslich ;D
Quote from: Black on Mar 18, 2012, 12:24:22 AM
In the scene where shaw is looking in a mirror there appears to be soething that momentarily pops out fo her mouth and then back in again?
Theres also some blood spattered onto the walls, this would go with the theory of the thing coming out her throat?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi42.tinypic.com%2F5bspyp.jpg&hash=bd6dbe8ed0e70a8635e486dc94a2b607155e4f73)
if you listen to the audio in this sequence someone is screaming, agonizing:
Quotecut it out,cut it out
she seams to be trembling out of fear,moment of panic at what she is hearing,and starts praying. there is nothing coming out of her.
And i don't thing something comes out of here either. Chances are she wouldn't be running around in a spacesuit after something like that
Yep; you can clearly see that wormlike thing being "lifted" by a robotic arm is most likely a xeno variant, reminds me of the queen embryo that was removed from Clone Ripley in Alien 4. There's blood everywhere so it was probably just hatched...
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Mar 18, 2012, 12:29:07 AM
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 18, 2012, 12:25:40 AM
Spoiler
Oh and nice of them to show Janek committing suicide.
eh ?
Spoiler
It shows him psyching himself up in a scream and then the next shot is the Prometheus colliding with the Derelict.
http://imgur.com/a/innKU (http://imgur.com/a/innKU)
Quote from: cmdcnqr on Mar 18, 2012, 12:30:07 AM
Yep; you can clearly see that wormlike thing being "lifted" by a robotic arm is most likely a xeno variant, reminds me of the queen embryo that was removed from Clone Ripley in Alien 4. There's blood everywhere so it was probably just hatched...
i agree... it reminds of that
Quote from: Eldritch on Mar 18, 2012, 12:29:29 AM
Quote from: cockroach on Mar 18, 2012, 12:24:50 AM
Quote from: Eldritch on Mar 18, 2012, 12:17:35 AM
Quote from: cockroach on Mar 18, 2012, 12:10:22 AM
now in new 1080 trailer u see something has been removed from her stomach with umbilical cord still attached when she's in the glass pod and it looks like a strange smooth chest burster?
Nah, not from her stomach. In the scene where we see her leaning against a wall, with hardly any clothes and lots of black "blood", there is no scratch on her stomach. I am guessing it comes out through the throat. This is something that was a concept back in the days of Alien, but they decided to go with the chest bursting instead (probably due to the difficulty of making a prop appear from within the mouth while still looking good on camera). It would awesomely gruesome if it did indeed come out of the throat... I'd choke my snacks seeing that ;)
DEF comes out of her stomach see attached pic from 1st leaked trailer ...
Well, it indicates movement in the stomach region, but does not confirm anything about something bursting out of there. My bet is still on it coming out through the throat. It would be different, unexpected, and totally grauslich ;D
Somebody mentioned this earlier, but during the Q&A session Scott was asked if there would be any "surprises" a la the chestburner scene in Alien.
He responded by assuring the crowd that there will be "surprises" like this one but he is actually embarrassed about it. My guess is that she will give a vaginal birth. A very graphic vaginal birth.
Quote from: Black on Mar 18, 2012, 12:24:22 AM
In the scene where shaw is looking in a mirror there appears to be soething that momentarily pops out fo her mouth and then back in again?
Theres also some blood spattered onto the walls, this would go with the theory of the thing coming out her throat?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi42.tinypic.com%2F5bspyp.jpg&hash=bd6dbe8ed0e70a8635e486dc94a2b607155e4f73)
if you listen to the audio in this sequence someone is screaming, agonizing:
Quotecut it out,cut it out
she seams to be trembling out of fear,moment of panic at what she is hearing,and starts praying. there is nothing coming out of her.
And i don't thing something comes out of here either. Chances are she wouldn't be running around in a spacesuit after something like that
The stuff coming out of her mouth is saliva. She's crying. Someone go comfort her ;)
Its not an smooth chestburster or eel creature in the medic bed shot!
Its just the distorted reflection of her face in the concave glass.
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 18, 2012, 12:34:11 AM
Quote from: Eldritch on Mar 18, 2012, 12:29:29 AM
Quote from: cockroach on Mar 18, 2012, 12:24:50 AM
Quote from: Eldritch on Mar 18, 2012, 12:17:35 AM
Quote from: cockroach on Mar 18, 2012, 12:10:22 AM
now in new 1080 trailer u see something has been removed from her stomach with umbilical cord still attached when she's in the glass pod and it looks like a strange smooth chest burster?
Nah, not from her stomach. In the scene where we see her leaning against a wall, with hardly any clothes and lots of black "blood", there is no scratch on her stomach. I am guessing it comes out through the throat. This is something that was a concept back in the days of Alien, but they decided to go with the chest bursting instead (probably due to the difficulty of making a prop appear from within the mouth while still looking good on camera). It would awesomely gruesome if it did indeed come out of the throat... I'd choke my snacks seeing that ;)
DEF comes out of her stomach see attached pic from 1st leaked trailer ...
Well, it indicates movement in the stomach region, but does not confirm anything about something bursting out of there. My bet is still on it coming out through the throat. It would be different, unexpected, and totally grauslich ;D
Somebody mentioned this earlier, but during the Q&A session Scott was asked if there would be any "surprises" a la the chestburner scene in Alien.
He responded by assuring the crowd that there will be "surprises" like this one but he is actually embarrassed about it. My guess is that she will give a vaginal birth. A very graphic vaginal birth.
From what we've seen it seemed more of a c-section applied to her
No matter how good or bad this movie is... One thing is for sure...
It has had the most amazing trailers I have probably ever seen.
QuoteI wish people would stop trying to find the literal ties to the Alien creature itself. The Mural thing, which is only vaguely similar beyond being gigerian or gigeresque... We're not going to see something and have it fan-wankily be "The Proton Chestburster." Why oh why can't we enjoy the idea of new things?
I have to disagree... saying the Mural thing is only vaguely similar beyond being Gigerian is like saying Necronom IV is only vaguely similar beyond being Gigerian. That's a carving of a xenomorph on the wall there. The arms, the chest, the legs, all identical, the only thing difference is that the head is shaped more broadly. Not one hatched from a human, but from a Space Jockey. Maybe as a warning from the Engineers what will come if the Space Jockeys get out of line, if the Engineers and Space Jockeys are actually separate races, which isn't clear yet.
Hologram/blue print of the Derelict is pretty cool,you can see all the different rooms
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi43.tinypic.com%2F35k3nyr.jpg&hash=d6f9ca1954794c1473dc228ff7df6e90becf1642)
Something wriggling on top of this ampule. This is the thing that infects the crew? Or only David? Notice David is smiling there.
Quote from: silentassasin47 on Mar 18, 2012, 12:37:14 AM
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 18, 2012, 12:34:11 AM
Quote from: Eldritch on Mar 18, 2012, 12:29:29 AM
Quote from: cockroach on Mar 18, 2012, 12:24:50 AM
Quote from: Eldritch on Mar 18, 2012, 12:17:35 AM
Quote from: cockroach on Mar 18, 2012, 12:10:22 AM
now in new 1080 trailer u see something has been removed from her stomach with umbilical cord still attached when she's in the glass pod and it looks like a strange smooth chest burster?
Nah, not from her stomach. In the scene where we see her leaning against a wall, with hardly any clothes and lots of black "blood", there is no scratch on her stomach. I am guessing it comes out through the throat. This is something that was a concept back in the days of Alien, but they decided to go with the chest bursting instead (probably due to the difficulty of making a prop appear from within the mouth while still looking good on camera). It would awesomely gruesome if it did indeed come out of the throat... I'd choke my snacks seeing that ;)
DEF comes out of her stomach see attached pic from 1st leaked trailer ...
Well, it indicates movement in the stomach region, but does not confirm anything about something bursting out of there. My bet is still on it coming out through the throat. It would be different, unexpected, and totally grauslich ;D
Somebody mentioned this earlier, but during the Q&A session Scott was asked if there would be any "surprises" a la the chestburner scene in Alien.
He responded by assuring the crowd that there will be "surprises" like this one but he is actually embarrassed about it. My guess is that she will give a vaginal birth. A very graphic vaginal birth.
From what we've seen it seemed more of a c-section applied to her
Eh, a little bit of an awkward question, but is there any chance that she was raped?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2F2it38dt.jpg&hash=dc2080b0b67eacf0cf390cc2f9a282805383eb7a)
Space cat? Well, it says it was found in Isle of Skye, but it is a weird creature lol.
By the way, you can see the space jockey's helmet on the ground at 1:27
Quote from: silentassasin47 on Mar 18, 2012, 12:32:47 AM
http://imgur.com/a/innKU (http://imgur.com/a/innKU)
Based on this guys link, its not a reflection on the glass
hard to see how this would be a 'graphic vaginal birth' one she has her underwear on, two unless the film is R rated they could never show that anyway, and it doesn't strike me as the sort of shot scott would be interested in
There is maybe a hint of a c section type thing going on the mark just visible on her stomach, the blood / fluid on the glass and the bed could have come off the thing as it thrashes around?
the HD images that silent assassin put up do show somethin is bein held in the robotic arm , no idea what , will be intrigued to see what tho and as for a vaginal birth of an alien .... maybe in an unrated version
Quote from: deepelemblues on Mar 18, 2012, 12:38:02 AM
QuoteI wish people would stop trying to find the literal ties to the Alien creature itself. The Mural thing, which is only vaguely similar beyond being gigerian or gigeresque... We're not going to see something and have it fan-wankily be "The Proton Chestburster." Why oh why can't we enjoy the idea of new things?
I have to disagree... saying the Mural thing is only vaguely beyond being Gigerian is like saying Necronom IV is only vaguely similar beyond being Gigerian. That's a carving of the xenomorph on the wall there. The arms, the chest, the legs, all identical, the only thing difference is that the head is shaped more broadly.
Hence my use of the term "vague." Just having the smooth shape there to imply the head means this is a vague carving of the alien. Which is much the connection Prometheus will have to Alien in terms of the actual creature. It's a vague ghost. The important bits that relate to Alien are going to take us in a very different direction. People keep pushing to try and find a phalic-headed creature roaming around bleeding acid on things. It's just not going to happen. That shape on the wall is like a faded memory. It's there to say "remember how nasty this thing was? Just imagine what else this race of engineers can conjure up."
Quote from: deepelemblues on Mar 18, 2012, 12:38:02 AM
QuoteI wish people would stop trying to find the literal ties to the Alien creature itself. The Mural thing, which is only vaguely similar beyond being gigerian or gigeresque... We're not going to see something and have it fan-wankily be "The Proton Chestburster." Why oh why can't we enjoy the idea of new things?
I have to disagree... saying the Mural thing is only vaguely beyond being Gigerian is like saying Necronom IV is only vaguely similar beyond being Gigerian. That's a carving of the xenomorph on the wall there. The arms, the chest, the legs, all identical, the only thing difference is that the head is shaped more broadly.
True, but then again I get the feeling that the xenomorph doesn't really have much of a central role in this. I can clearly see now what Mr. Scott referred to by saying that we will recognize some of Alien's DNA but that it's a whole different story on its own. To me, the xenomorph is just another small character within this massive universe Prometheus is building up
Quote from: Mikey on Mar 18, 2012, 12:37:46 AM
No matter how good or bad this movie is... One thing is for sure...
It has had the most amazing trailers I have probably ever seen.
Indeed it does.
Quote from: zakzak on Mar 18, 2012, 12:40:22 AM
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Something wriggling on top of this ampule. This is the thing that infects the crew? Or only David?
Is David smiling there?
Appears to be smiling. I obviously have no clue what that thing(s) is/are, but I'm very interested in finding out.
Also, the shots of what I assume are the unsuited SJ look amazing!
Are there any HD download links that work?
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 18, 2012, 12:43:53 AM
Are there any HD download links that work?
Doesn't the one in the OP work?
Seems not to. Or, at least, it's a file I can't open.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 18, 2012, 12:43:53 AM
Are there any HD download links that work?
http://saveyoutube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU&feature=player_embedded (http://saveyoutube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU&feature=player_embedded)
Credit goes to
EvaQuoteFrom what we've seen it seemed more of a c-section applied to her
I guess so, since there is a bloody strap across her abdomen, when she is almost strengthless walking in the corridor
Wow this trailer made the front page of yahoo.
THAT.
IS.
THE.
BEST.
TRAILER.
I'VE.
EVER.
SEEN...
Bloody amazing trailer! The flurry of images are intense. Personally, I prefer the industrial pop/rock score of the IMAX trailer.
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Quote from: hardcorps54 on Mar 18, 2012, 12:41:21 AM
the HD images that silent assassin put up do show somethin is bein held in the robotic arm , no idea what , will be intrigued to see what tho and as for a vaginal birth of an alien .... maybe in an unrated version
where do people keep seeing a robotic arm?
Quote from: Black on Mar 18, 2012, 12:24:22 AM
In the scene where shaw is looking in a mirror there appears to be soething that momentarily pops out fo her mouth and then back in again?
Theres also some blood spattered onto the walls, this would go with the theory of the thing coming out her throat?
You are right. There's indeed something coming out. She tries to swallow.
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Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 18, 2012, 12:52:17 AM
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Mar 18, 2012, 12:41:21 AM
the HD images that silent assassin put up do show somethin is bein held in the robotic arm , no idea what , will be intrigued to see what tho and as for a vaginal birth of an alien .... maybe in an unrated version
where do people keep seeing a robotic arm?
IMAX trailer from yesterday.
Oh my god... please don't mention the possibility of Shaw giving actual birth to that proto-facehugger creature the 'natural way' :o
That is so... disturbing on so many levels to imagine. I take comfort in her seemingly intact underwear for now lol...
Btw - since no one brought this shot up - am I the only one seeing additional space jockey bodies in the shadows. I'm pretty sure I can see distinct jockey arms:
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Close-up:
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The engineer ship could be littered with dead engineers as part of their 'punishment' for giving man fire metaphorically speaking, or am I thinking too far? Could they be in hiding from their own race with a few remaining survivors - perhaps just one?
I think Vickers quote at the beginning is a continuation of Weylands TED statement - that Gods die as well and we will take their place.
Quote from: aliennaire on Mar 18, 2012, 12:47:37 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 18, 2012, 12:43:53 AM
Are there any HD download links that work?
http://saveyoutube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU&feature=player_embedded (http://saveyoutube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU&feature=player_embedded)
Credit goes to Eva
Gah, this fails too.
Goosebumps at !:55 with the man screaming cut if off. Holy crap what an amazing trailer.
Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 18, 2012, 12:52:17 AM
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Mar 18, 2012, 12:41:21 AM
the HD images that silent assassin put up do show somethin is bein held in the robotic arm , no idea what , will be intrigued to see what tho and as for a vaginal birth of an alien .... maybe in an unrated version
where do people keep seeing a robotic arm?
its the big metal strut that goes across the top of the person on the operating table which has a robotic claw that is holding somethin which looks to be taken out of the patient
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 18, 2012, 12:54:05 AM
Quote from: aliennaire on Mar 18, 2012, 12:47:37 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 18, 2012, 12:43:53 AM
Are there any HD download links that work?
http://saveyoutube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU&feature=player_embedded (http://saveyoutube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU&feature=player_embedded)
Credit goes to Eva
Gah, this fails too.
Strange - it still works when I click it... ???
PS: Ikarop posted this link in post #1:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4083772/Prometheus%20-%20Official%20Full%20HD%20Trailer_AvPGalaxy.net.rar (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4083772/Prometheus%20-%20Official%20Full%20HD%20Trailer_AvPGalaxy.net.rar)
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Mar 18, 2012, 12:55:31 AM
Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 18, 2012, 12:52:17 AM
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Mar 18, 2012, 12:41:21 AM
the HD images that silent assassin put up do show somethin is bein held in the robotic arm , no idea what , will be intrigued to see what tho and as for a vaginal birth of an alien .... maybe in an unrated version
where do people keep seeing a robotic arm?
its the big metal strut that goes across the top of the person on the operating table which has a robotic claw that is holding somethin which looks to be taken out of the patient
Cheers i saw it now
Amazing shot of the Jockey. Or is he?
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The trailer seemed pretty unsettling to me. The way it starts makes it seem like it ought to be a grand sci-fi adventure, but then just as we get to the point where the crew finds out what really lies in that alien planet everything takes a really dark and nasty tone. Really reflects Noomi's words "We were so wrong" and confirms what Mr. Scott had said about the setting not being what the crew expected it to be.
This is 'Full Circle.'
I don't need to expand on the idea of Ripleys struggle being one of keeping the Alien as far from Earth as possible. If this is canon, which it is, it makes that struggle more profound.
Shit the bed, I'm babbling. I'm actually speechless. I've waited 2 decades for this. I thought I didn't care anymore. f**k it, I was given the Anthology 2 Xmas's ago and I've not watched any of them yet. I'd seen them too many times.
It's actually happening.
Can someone post a screen grab of the wide shot of the Jockey chair rising up with Blue man walking into the shot from the right side please?
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Mar 18, 2012, 12:55:31 AM
Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 18, 2012, 12:52:17 AM
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Mar 18, 2012, 12:41:21 AM
the HD images that silent assassin put up do show somethin is bein held in the robotic arm , no idea what , will be intrigued to see what tho and as for a vaginal birth of an alien .... maybe in an unrated version
where do people keep seeing a robotic arm?
its the big metal strut that goes across the top of the person on the operating table which has a robotic claw that is holding somethin which looks to be taken out of the patient
There is no vaginal birth of the eel creature. Her stomach is bloodied and the alien-eel seems to have a sort of umbilical chord that goes back into her stomach (remember in the leaked trailer we see something push her stomach from the inside). Soon after in the trailer we see her struggling about the ship (obviously post surgical op/ extraction) covered in blood and with a black band across her stomach (which is sealing the wound I imagine). At least that's what I am seeing.
Quote from: silentassasin47 on Mar 18, 2012, 01:00:05 AM
The trailer seemed pretty unsettling to me. The way it starts makes it seem like it ought to be a grand sci-fi adventure, but then just as we get to the point where the crew finds out what really lies in that alien planet everything takes a really dark and nasty tone. Really reflects Noomi's words "We were so wrong" and confirms what Mr. Scott had said about the setting not being what the crew expected it to be.
"They came looking for our beginning, but what they found was their end."
"The Jockeys were out to get us all along!"
... really, movie? That's what you've got for us after 33 f**king years of people asking what that thing was? The footage is epic, but the plot can go f**k itself from what we just saw in the trailer.
Quote from: Eva on Mar 18, 2012, 12:56:37 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 18, 2012, 12:54:05 AM
Quote from: aliennaire on Mar 18, 2012, 12:47:37 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 18, 2012, 12:43:53 AM
Are there any HD download links that work?
http://saveyoutube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU&feature=player_embedded (http://saveyoutube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU&feature=player_embedded)
Credit goes to Eva
Gah, this fails too.
Strange - it still works when I click it... ???
PS: Ikarop posted this link in post #1:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4083772/Prometheus%20-%20Official%20Full%20HD%20Trailer_AvPGalaxy.net.rar (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4083772/Prometheus%20-%20Official%20Full%20HD%20Trailer_AvPGalaxy.net.rar)
This is the link that my computer can't open...
Sigh. Might have to live without it.
Quote from: Black on Mar 18, 2012, 12:11:35 AM
Quote from: mcknife on Mar 18, 2012, 12:09:43 AM
Can anyone screencap the last scene of trailer?
Anroid David is smiling and his mimics reminds me android ash from alien...very nice reference i think
My pleasure:
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Anyone else reminded of this? May fit in neatly with Weyland's T.E. Lawrence allusion in his TED talk.
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I'm going back on what i said a fair bit. This needs to be rated "R".
I have no idea how they will edit a PG-13 movie out of this, the trailer feels like a "R" rated movie.
The trailer reminds me of event horizon's trailer. Very similar feel to it [though this should actually be a good movie as event horizon is awful]. And that movie was a hard "R".
Quote from: SiL on Mar 18, 2012, 01:02:28 AM
"The Jockeys were out to get us all along!"
... really, movie? That's what you've got for us after 33 f**king years of people asking what that thing was? The footage is epic, but the plot can go f**k itself from what we just saw in the trailer.
Ridley's vision was always that the original derelict in Alien was a cargo ship carrying a deadly biological weapon that would be used to destroy an entire civilization
And it was headed for Earth! Dun dun duuuun.
Quote from: eyesofthedemon on Mar 18, 2012, 01:01:41 AM
Can someone post a screen grab of the wide shot of the Jockey chair rising up with Blue man walking into the shot from the right side please?
Here you go
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Quote from: Vulhala on Mar 18, 2012, 01:00:25 AM
This is 'Full Circle.'
It's actually happening.
Know exactly how you fell. This trailer is fantastic. :)
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 18, 2012, 01:06:19 AM
Very similar feel to it [though this should actually be a good movie as event horizon is awful].
Beg to differ. Event Horizon may be flawed, but it has enough (IMO undeniable) strengths to be nowhere near awful. Apart from anything else, it was the only post-Alien-clone to actually dare to make a big-budget claustrophobic space movie with true horror elements. The production design alone was fantastic.
visuals are just stunning in HD - this shits all over anything i've seen so far. and the whole mood of the movie seems to be just right. it seems huge and epic, but at least the trailer easily creates an unsettling mood which i never thought it could.
if the movie is even close to what the trailer promises this IS going to be my favourite movie of all times. could even be better than alien and blade runner together. i just hope it can live up to this enormous hype it's creating at the moment. otherwise the letdown would be too much to take for me. but i'm optimistic it will turn out really great and i'm sure that they haven't shown us anything too spoilerish so that there will be quite a few surprises left...
HOLY F*CKING SHIT!!! ;D.......So watching it in IMAX!!!
Anyone else reminded of this? May fit in neatly with Weyland's T.E. Lawrence allusion in his TED talk.
Weyland's brief pause during the TED 2023 talk, when he recites "The gods... well you might say they overreacted a little" sends chills up my spine, making me think he knows something about the danger/SJs/xenos that await in Zeta II... I suspect that at the end of the movie there may be a 2001: A Space Odyssey moment when a vanquished crew finally sees a message from Weyland saying "guess what, your F*****, you were guinea pigs."
Just a thought.
Quote from: ikarop on Mar 17, 2012, 11:39:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU#ws)
Download link (1080p): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4083772/Prometheus%20-%20Official%20Full%20HD%20Trailer_AvPGalaxy.net.rar (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4083772/Prometheus%20-%20Official%20Full%20HD%20Trailer_AvPGalaxy.net.rar)
Thanks for this Ikorop
In 1080p the visuals are absolutely stunning
It seems Ridley really has done it again, with the 'WOW' factor evident in spades
(Only slight downer is the 'unreal' 'non solid' and 'not really there' appearance of the CGI Prometheus touching down on the planet surface, as compared to the very real, solid and 'there' appearance of the Nostromo in 1979's classic flic.............but I can look past that when so much of it looks SO damn good !)
nnnyyyyyyyyYYYYYEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!
f**kin' fantastic trailer.
"They're changing" "Changing into what?"
The walls are changing... and i'm forced to echo Vicker's question. Into what?
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David discovers something tiny, and when he takes it out of the "ampule" it has grown.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 18, 2012, 01:17:08 AM
"They're changing" "Changing into what?"
The walls are changing... and i'm forced to echo Vicker's question. Into what?
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Indeed into what, something seems to be moving there, but you can't make out what it is. Could it be the ship is regenerating after a long period of not being used?
It seems these poor bastards barely get a chance to look around those rooms and boom everything goes mental.
Now i understand why they don't advertise this as a prequel. The events in this one don't lead up i think to the ones in ALIEN. it just has some ''protagonists'' from the first movie and that's about it. quite clever of them, being able to revisit that world without milking the story format of the first movie.
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 01:10:39 AM
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 18, 2012, 01:06:19 AM
Very similar feel to it [though this should actually be a good movie as event horizon is awful].
Beg to differ. Event Horizon may be flawed, but it has enough (IMO undeniable) strengths to be nowhere near awful. Apart from anything else, it was the only post-Alien-clone to actually dare to make a big-budget claustrophobic space movie with true horror elements. The production design alone was fantastic.
It is a nice looking movie if you can get over the fact they made a ship look like a gothic death trap. I always had issue with that. Still it is pretty.
I still think it is a bad movie.
Then again, how many big budget films are their like that? Event Horizon, Sunshine[which I also felt was overrated and awful], any others? I'm drawing a blank on big budget ones....I can think of tons of cheap shitty ones....
Amazingggggggggggggggggg
I think I've had enough revealed to me though, for now.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 18, 2012, 12:41:37 AM
Quote from: deepelemblues on Mar 18, 2012, 12:38:02 AM
QuoteI wish people would stop trying to find the literal ties to the Alien creature itself. The Mural thing, which is only vaguely similar beyond being gigerian or gigeresque... We're not going to see something and have it fan-wankily be "The Proton Chestburster." Why oh why can't we enjoy the idea of new things?
I have to disagree... saying the Mural thing is only vaguely beyond being Gigerian is like saying Necronom IV is only vaguely similar beyond being Gigerian. That's a carving of the xenomorph on the wall there. The arms, the chest, the legs, all identical, the only thing difference is that the head is shaped more broadly.
Hence my use of the term "vague." Just having the smooth shape there to imply the head means this is a vague carving of the alien. Which is much the connection Prometheus will have to Alien in terms of the actual creature. It's a vague ghost. The important bits that relate to Alien are going to take us in a very different direction. People keep pushing to try and find a phalic-headed creature roaming around bleeding acid on things. It's just not going to happen. That shape on the wall is like a faded memory. It's there to say "remember how nasty this thing was? Just imagine what else this race of engineers can conjure up."
I don't think that's the really relevant point, though. One of the biggest concerns of people posting has been about the fact the xenomorph was really just a mutated person/jockey/bio-tech hybrid in some way. This seems to confirm that the xenomorph is a true alien that exists separately to humans - if they're finding it on the wall of an ancient civilization it's obviously a pre-existing thing. Which is both good news but also rather puzzling.
I mean if the xeno pre-exists (and for me, that is clearly a picture of a xeno) then is the mutation stuff that seems to be the body of the plot (at least going by the trailers so far) entirely separate? Is the xeno issue rather tangential to the main plot of Prometheus? I suppose that comes back to the central "is this a prequel or isn't it"? question ultimately...
i haven't even finished watching it and i'm buzzing
Quote from: SiL on Mar 18, 2012, 01:09:03 AMAnd it was headed for Earth! Dun dun duuuun.
The trailer seems to suggest that the crew are lead there by some multi-millennial master plan, similar to 2001. Not sure how I feel about that yet, but there is still the question of why? I will reserve judgement, it could go far deeper than just the Jockeys being alien invaders.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 18, 2012, 01:17:08 AM
"They're changing" "Changing into what?"
The walls are changing... and i'm forced to echo Vicker's question. Into what?
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i am gonna guess thats where the "alien" image appears
I am on overload today. How f'in awesome... Dudes, from what Scott says about the surprise scene and him being embarrassed, there's no way they are going to be able to edit this down to a PG-13. I'll be shocked if they do.
P.S. I Think the Xeno ceiling relief was thrown in as a raspberry. There's no way that fox woulda thrown that in if it had any real significance.
Okay, I will be the voice in the wilderness. I can't say as this is a surprise...as there has been enough hints from previous interviews and quotes, but now there is no question that the premise of this film is very much based on the Von Daniken "ancient astronauts" stuff. Heck, Holloway and Shaw confirm that at the beginning of the trailer, with all the talk of ancient artifacts and "clues", which lead them to believe that they are being given an "invitation" to visit some glorified extraterrestrial party.
I'm sure the film has the potential to be awesome...but I really am not a fan of this concedpt, because I feel it marginalizes our humanity and history.
I can't help but draw even more parallels between this and At the Mountains of Madness everytime I see the trailer.
Both stories start up with an expedition that takes the crew to a remote location (Antarctica, Zeta Reticuli II) in the hopes of learning about something primordial. Both journeys will completely change the way wee see human biology and life in the universe. However, as our characters explore this ancient, grotesque and titanic ruins, something goes wrong. Something awakens within these ruins, which poses a huge threat to the explorers.
We next learn about a race of highly advanced engineers that may or may not be a direct threat to our civilization, but the real danger lies in something THEY created. Whether in Prometheus the jockey race is actually the one that is going back to Earth with a deadly cargo or not remains to be seen, but the theme is still the same. There are far more horrifying things in the universe than Space Jockeys and Elder Gods
Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 18, 2012, 01:17:08 AM
"They're changing" "Changing into what?"
The walls are changing... and i'm forced to echo Vicker's question. Into what?
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Well, there is all the bio mechanical structures everywhere, so that might be how it grows.
Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 18, 2012, 01:20:13 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 18, 2012, 01:17:08 AM
"They're changing" "Changing into what?"
The walls are changing... and i'm forced to echo Vicker's question. Into what?
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Indeed into what, something seems to be moving there, but you can't make out what it is. It seems these poor bastards barely get a chance to look around those rooms and boom everything goes mental.
Now i understand why they don't advertise this as a prequel. The events in this one don't lead up i think to the ones in ALIEN. it just has some ''protagonists'' from the first movie and that's about it. quite clever of them, being able to revisit that world without milking the story format of the first movie.
I'm hoping they don't lead directly to Alien, but...
The planet looks like it is one of the moons of Calpamos. The ring in the background around the ship landing. I think that ship is gonna end up being the derelict. T
Another interesting point is that, if we believe the russian dude that said he was editing the trailer, we have no clips from the last 10 minutes. So something interesting must happen after the jockey ship crashes.
Now, I will say it again, I don't want it to lead into Alien. It just looks like it might.
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 18, 2012, 01:27:02 AM
Okay, I will be the voice in the wilderness. I can't say as this is a surprise...as there has been enough hints from previous interviews and quotes, but now there is no question that the premise of this film is very much based on the Von Daniken "ancient astronauts" stuff. Heck, Holloway and Shaw confirm that at the beginning of the trailer, with all the talk of ancient artifacts and "clues", which lead them to believe that they are being given an "invitation" to visit some glorified extraterrestrial party.
I'm sure the film has the potential to be awesome...but I really am not a fan of this concedpt, because I feel it marginalizes our humanity and history.
Well.... the ancient astronauts stuff is not really anything new. It's actually part of early 20th century's sci-fi and horror, most notably in H.P. Lovecraft's stories and book where humanity is but a tiny insignificant race in a universe full of alien gods. Some of these even had a hand in engineering the species of our world. The movie does burrow some of the MODERN ancient astronauts theories but if anything you could link it more to earlier cosmic horror type of stories
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what do you think about this image?
Anyone else notice the alien at 1:37
I think he came when he saw the trailer, too.
Quote from: mcknife on Mar 18, 2012, 01:30:58 AM
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what do you think about this image?
He got really board being all alone. :laugh:
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 18, 2012, 01:20:31 AM
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 01:10:39 AM
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 18, 2012, 01:06:19 AM
Very similar feel to it [though this should actually be a good movie as event horizon is awful].
Beg to differ. Event Horizon may be flawed, but it has enough (IMO undeniable) strengths to be nowhere near awful. Apart from anything else, it was the only post-Alien-clone to actually dare to make a big-budget claustrophobic space movie with true horror elements. The production design alone was fantastic.
It is a nice looking movie if you can get over the fact they made a ship look like a gothic death trap. I always had issue with that. Still it is pretty.
I still think it is a bad movie.
Then again, how many big budget films are their like that? Event Horizon, Sunshine[which I also felt was overrated and awful], any others? I'm drawing a blank on big budget ones....I can think of tons of cheap shitty ones....
Wow you thought Sunshine was awful?! I didn't love the last 15 minutes or so but I thought it was superb before that - easily the best of the post-Alien ripoffs. Really suspenseful, beautifully acted, well shot, good characters etc. Probably Danny boyle's best after Trainspotting; but I have to concede it wasn't hugely well-received, although I've never understood why.
Event Horizon...is a guilty pleasure for me. I totally accept it's majorly flawed, and it basically falls into cheap melodrama towards the end. But I still love so many things about it. The gothic death trap - I suppose it doesn't quite add up, but really most of the ship isn't that gothic, just the giant sphere room. And who's to say what a machine that's meant to do that WOULD look like?! Overall, too, I like the Hellraiser-style theme being brought into the Alien sub-genre a LOT.
In terms of others, no there haven't been any significant ones surprisingly. I've seen about 5 mins of Virus (with Jamie Lee-Curtis). Looked terrible and may well have been low-budget? After that, the only other similar major film I can think of is The Abyss which has elements in common but is obviously very different in certain key regards.
Quote from: evolution_rex on Mar 18, 2012, 01:32:35 AM
Quote from: mcknife on Mar 18, 2012, 01:30:58 AM
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what do you think about this image?
He got really board being all alone. :laugh:
it reminds me the nasty sticky liquid that comes from xenomorphs mouth
Quote from: SiL on Mar 18, 2012, 01:02:28 AM
"The Jockeys were out to get us all along!"
... really, movie? That's what you've got for us after 33 f**king years of people asking what that thing was? The footage is epic, but the plot can go f**k itself from what we just saw in the trailer.
Peter Briggs has read the script and said it sucked. I trust him.
Wanna talk about sci-fi movies that are just plain awful in every regard? Right now, Ghosts Of Mars is on TV2 Film and it's a trainwreck of suck.
I can't imagine what went through Carpenters head when he made that film...
I don't
think this has been posted....
QuoteIn the distant future, two superpowers control Earth and fight each other for all the solar system's natural resources. When one side dispatches a team to a distant planet to terraform it for human colonization, the team discovers an indigenous race of bio-mechanoid killers.
Interesting plot to give your video, AMC.
Who are the two superpowers? They could be the companies (Weyland and Yutani) but I don't know if I like the idea of them being
superpowers. It's my feelings about the timeline moving too fast again. I suppose I'm just going to accept this (slightly haunting) aspect of the story.
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Very similar feel to it [though this should actually be a good movie as event horizon is awful].
Beg to differ. Event Horizon may be flawed, but it has enough (IMO undeniable) strengths to be nowhere near awful. Apart from anything else, it was the only post-Alien-clone to actually dare to make a big-budget claustrophobic space movie with true horror elements. The production design alone was fantastic.
It is a nice looking movie if you can get over the fact they made a ship look like a gothic death trap. I always had issue with that. Still it is pretty.
I still think it is a bad movie.
Then again, how many big budget films are their like that? Event Horizon, Sunshine[which I also felt was overrated and awful], any others? I'm drawing a blank on big budget ones....I can think of tons of cheap shitty ones....
Wow you thought Sunshine was awful?! I didn't love the last 15 minutes or so but I thought it was superb before that - easily the best of the post-Alien ripoffs. Really suspenseful, beautifully acted, well shot, good characters etc. Probably Danny boyle's best after Trainspotting; but I have to concede it wasn't hugely well-received, although I've never understood why.
Event Horizon...is a guilty pleasure for me. I totally accept it's majorly flawed, and it basically falls into cheap melodrama towards the end. But I still love so many things about it. The gothic death trap - I suppose it doesn't quite add up, but really most of the ship isn't that gothic, just the giant sphere room. And who's to say what a machine that's meant to do that WOULD look like?! Overall, too, I like the Hellraiser-style theme being brought into the Alien sub-genre a LOT.
In terms of others, no there haven't been any significant ones surprisingly. I've seen about 5 mins of Virus (with Jamie Lee-Curtis). Looked terrible and may well have been low-budget? After that, the only other similar major film I can think of is The Abyss which has elements in common but is obviously very different in certain key regards.
If we add in the underwater thing we can get a few more flicks out of it, but they are all terrible.
I thought that sunshine was poorly written, disjointed, and the last 45 minutes were painful to watch. It took me 3 times to finish it as I kept falling asleep. I couldn't get into the dialog or the characters, it all felt kinda forced and awkward.
But I think that gentleman just can't write a third act. "28 days later" had a similar issue. Just turned to shit for the last 30 minutes.
Quote from: Eva on Mar 18, 2012, 01:42:26 AM
Wanna talk about sci-fi movies that are just plain awful in every regard? Right now, Ghosts Of Mars is on TV2 Film and it's a trainwreck of suck.
I can't imagine what went through Carpenters head when he made that film...
Cocaine is one hell of drug. I heard he was doing it when he made that movie.
Quote from: Eva on Mar 18, 2012, 01:42:26 AM
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I can't imagine what went through Carpenters head when he made that film...
"Meth doesn't buy itself!"
Words can't even...
I've never seen anything like it.
Beautiful. :'(
Anyone else think the Jockey-In-Chair shot is unfinished CGI? There's something kind of flat about it...
Not to mention the suit's a bit different than in Alien, but who knows if that changes somewhere along the storyline.
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the HD images that silent assassin put up do show somethin is bein held in the robotic arm , no idea what , will be intrigued to see what tho and as for a vaginal birth of an alien .... maybe in an unrated version
where do people keep seeing a robotic arm?
its the big metal strut that goes across the top of the person on the operating table which has a robotic claw that is holding somethin which looks to be taken out of the patient
There is no vaginal birth of the eel creature. Her stomach is bloodied and the alien-eel seems to have a sort of umbilical chord that goes back into her stomach (remember in the leaked trailer we see something push her stomach from the inside). Soon after in the trailer we see her struggling about the ship (obviously post surgical op/ extraction) covered in blood and with a black band across her stomach (which is sealing the wound I imagine). At least that's what I am seeing.
I think you're right. Here's the quote from the Q & A earlier today:
"A fan later asked if there will be a scene comparable to the chest-burster scene in Alien it terms of shock. "Oh yeah," said Sir Ridley. "I'm embarrassed because it's pretty shocking."
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 18, 2012, 01:50:40 AM
Anyone else think the Jockey-In-Chair shot is unfinished CGI? There's something kind of flat about it...
Not to mention the suit's a bit different than in Alien, but who knows if that changes somewhere along the storyline.
To me the jockey suit, being biomechanical in nature, adapts to whoever wears it. Perhaps one of the crew members is wearing it in that particular scene, which would explain why it seems so out of proportion. Furthermore, if you see the scene where the tall man is walking to the chair it seems like he does fit into the chair.
Nothing to add! Just need to sit and watch slo-mo for the next hour or so. I am so excited to see this - I truly think Sir Rid's bowled a winner here...
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Quote from: Eva on Mar 18, 2012, 01:42:26 AM
Wanna talk about sci-fi movies that are just plain awful in every regard? Right now, Ghosts Of Mars is on TV2 Film and it's a trainwreck of suck.
I can't imagine what went through Carpenters head when he made that film...
Cocaine is one hell of drug. I heard he was doing it when he made that movie.
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 18, 2012, 01:47:41 AM
"Meth doesn't buy itself!"
Lol... and he made me wish that I had taken some when I initially watched it :D
"we were so wrong, we were so wrong" ....about the invitation. it's not a map, it's not an invitation. It's a Trap.
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Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 18, 2012, 01:50:40 AM
Anyone else think the Jockey-In-Chair shot is unfinished CGI? There's something kind of flat about it...
Not to mention the suit's a bit different than in Alien, but who knows if that changes somewhere along the storyline.
To me the jockey suit, being biomechanical in nature, adapts to whoever wears it. Perhaps one of the crew members is wearing it in that particular scene, which would explain why it seems so out of proportion. Furthermore, if you see the scene where the tall man is walking to the chair it seems like he does fit into the chair.
Could be.
I'm not worried about size, but comparing the picture to the Alien version, there seems to be more going on with the arms etc.
The image itself, though, seems like a work in progress.
Quote from: cmdcnqr on Mar 18, 2012, 02:00:04 AM
"we were so wrong, we were so wrong" ....about the invitation. it's not a map, it's not an invitation. It's a Trap.
It's not an SOS, it's a warning.
Quote from: cmdcnqr on Mar 18, 2012, 02:00:04 AM
"we were so wrong, we were so wrong" ....about the invitation. it's not a map, it's not an invitation. It's a Trap.
Or a warning.
Heh.
Hmmm, i have a theory. We have the good guys (Humans/droids), We have the possible snake thing and the mutations. We also have the ship and the chair/bio suits (so now the "space Jockey in chair is debunked as a suit).. Then we have Mr Blue "Prometheus". But, if it is literally his name meaning then he is just a puppet for another greater power because he is the guy who give us our "fire". So, he is seemingly being held captive or forced to pilot/maintain/protect this temple and its contents. Then what is the greater power keeping him there? There is something we have not seen.
For some reason i am getting a very big Borg vibe. We see the walls of the ship morph and then we have our ampules of goo and bio mech. I think all along there was never a space jockey " creature " at all. At some point near the dawn of existence some goo formed on some planet evolved over millions of years and now its ... the tech we see flying around populating the universe with variants of its own genetic code in prometheus. Also the one king dies and another takes over i think that Mr Blue's time is at an end and that one of the new crew will end up being our new pilot (David).
Long time lurker - upon watching the trailer, I'm beginning to think a Space Jockey unlawfully created the human race, Prometheus (in the beginning of the trailer). That king reigned and finally died. The crew happen upon his kind and the remaining Space Jockey race set off to destroy what he has created (life on Earth). Just a theory and probably one that has been articulated in some form or another here. Movie looks great regardless.
David is VERY intrigued with that alien baby thing.
Weird.
Well... "It appears to have life. Organic life."
The more I see of David, the more i'm convinced he's very much a "Spock" type of character. I don't think he will become insidious or hostile in any fashion. :)
Quote from: arogony on Mar 18, 2012, 02:10:59 AM
David is VERY intrigued with that alien baby thing.
Weird.
David seems to be intrigued by everything. From the strange thing within the urn, to the weird goo and the star map...
Oops. I meant it is a map... duh
Didn't one of the crew say the ship is going back to earth? I wonder if that goo is the instrument the SJ or Engineers or a yet unseen lovecraftian god use to take other lifeforms and craft them in their own image or bind them to the creators. Maybe the goo can create life use to pilot the ship, actually create the ship, create weapons ala xenomorphs, etc. perhaps being able to create or recreate using organic and inorganic matter.
Quote from: Bakurenoh on Mar 18, 2012, 02:04:49 AM
Also the one king dies and another takes over i think that Mr Blue's time is at an end and that one of the new crew will end up being our new pilot (David).
I've actually thought quite a few times that the new Jockey would be Weyland hunting for immortality.
Which also fits in with the King thing. He seems the type that believes he should be blessed with eternal life.
Quote from: arogony on Mar 18, 2012, 02:10:59 AM
David is VERY intrigued with that alien baby thing.
Weird.
David just seems like a very creepy character. That actor has done it again. He's one of the best actors working today.
Quote from: Naissus on Mar 18, 2012, 02:14:47 AM
Didn't one of the crew say the ship is going back to earth? I wonder if that goo is the instrument the SJ or Engineers or a yet unseen lovecraftian god use to take other lifeforms and craft them in their own image or bind them to the creators. Maybe the goo can create life use to pilot the ship, actually create the ship, create weapons ala xenomorphs, etc. perhaps being able to create or recreate using organic and inorganic matter.
That seems a bit far fetched imo. Ridley always had the idea that the ship was carrying biological weapons and that the SJ was its pilot. There was never any implication about the ship being created out of nowhere. What I'd assume this goo can do is mess with the DNA of an already existing species.
Given all we've seen so far I don't think we'll get to see a proper alien god or engineer of sorts. If anything, I'd say the closest we'll get is a SJ/human hybrid that ends up being the tall man we see in the trailers.
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David is VERY intrigued with that alien baby thing.
Weird.
David just seems like a very creepy character. That actor has done it again. He's one of the best actors working today.
It's awesome watching this man's stardom rise.
Omg...well guys time to leave the board to avoid any more spoilers, this is my most anticipated movie ever, first time i registered for a board just because of a movie, i NEVER analyzed a trailer or even pressed the pause button...so don't want to cross a signature or avatar or whatever that contains any more spoilers.
This godlike trailer already reveals more than enough but there is still 1% of the plot missing and i want to keep it that way - and i'm glad that the Diablo 3 release is close ... as distraction until the movie's release :D
So thx for the nice time, have fun while revealing the missing % of the story and cya after the release ;)
PS: Ikarop, just contact me with live messenger when you got the textures for the Skyrim suit ready, i will finish the mesh then (shapes for _0/_1 and male/female) - i will PM you my ID once more as safety 'cause i will skip PMs as well ;)
Quote from: Naissus on Mar 18, 2012, 02:14:47 AM
Didn't one of the crew say the ship is going back to earth? I wonder if that goo is the instrument the SJ or Engineers or a yet unseen lovecraftian god use to take other lifeforms and craft them in their own image or bind them to the creators. Maybe the goo can create life use to pilot the ship, actually create the ship, create weapons ala xenomorphs, etc. perhaps being able to create or recreate using organic and inorganic matter.
I totally now think the goo IS our "space Jockey". The more i logically thing about it is that the Goo has never been able to take form such as a human or any other creature. But it is intelligent in that it knows only one thing. To populate and spread its genes as far and wide as possible. So it probably had enough of its own planet and evolved the ability to form bio mechanical parts to help itself get around, then be able to form ships and such so it could planet hop. But it still needs a host or a tool creature in order to work optimally.
So i reckon all these "maps" that have been left all over the place in these ancient civilisations are to constantly notify where the goo is. If Mr Blue dies or refuses to do the goo's bidding it would cease to be so by giving away its location its constantly got a new source of hosts/pilots.
But im maybe thinking wayyy too hard about this.
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Mar 18, 2012, 02:22:55 AM
Omg...well guys time to leave the board to avoid any more spoilers, this is my most anticipated movie ever, first time i registered for a board just because of a movie, i NEVER analyzed a trailer or even pressed the pause button...so don't want to cross a signature or avatar or whatever that contains any more spoilers.
This godlike trailer already reveals more than enough but there is still 1% of the plot missing and i want to keep it that way - and i'm glad that the Diablo 3 release is close ... as distraction until the movie's release :D
So thx for the nice time, have fun while revealing the missing % of the story and cya after the release ;)
PS: Ikarop, just contact me with live messenger when you got the textures for the Skyrim suit ready, i will finish the mesh then (shapes for _0/_1 and male/female) - i will PM you my ID once more as safety 'cause i will skip PMs as well ;)
Me too. I'm outta here. The investigations are getting ridiculous. No stone unturned.
Quote from: Bakurenoh on Mar 18, 2012, 02:24:31 AM
Quote from: Naissus on Mar 18, 2012, 02:14:47 AM
Didn't one of the crew say the ship is going back to earth? I wonder if that goo is the instrument the SJ or Engineers or a yet unseen lovecraftian god use to take other lifeforms and craft them in their own image or bind them to the creators. Maybe the goo can create life use to pilot the ship, actually create the ship, create weapons ala xenomorphs, etc. perhaps being able to create or recreate using organic and inorganic matter.
I totally now think the goo IS our "space Jockey". The more i logically thing about it is that the Goo has never been able to take form such as a human or any other creature. But it is intelligent in that it knows only one thing. To populate and spread its genes as far and wide as possible. So it probably had enough of its own planet and evolved the ability to form bio mechanical parts to help itself get around, then be able to form ships and such so it could planet hop. But it still needs a host or a tool creature in order to work optimally.
So i reckon all these "maps" that have been left all over the place in these ancient civilisations are to constantly notify where the goo is. If Mr Blue dies or refuses to do the goo's bidding it would cease to be so by giving away its location its constantly got a new source of hosts/pilots.
But im maybe thinking wayyy too hard about this.
That seems way more lovecraftnian than what the movie implies (thinking of shoggoths a la Mountains of Madness). Either way, I myself do believe the SJ is an entity capable of changing its anatomy in such a way that it can take any form it wants, but that does not necessarily mean it's just a semi-conscious goo.
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interesting.
I hope that mural/image of the classic xeno on the ceiling/wall is part of a series of scenes where the crew sees different murals of different xenos/beasts... that would be sick.
After seeing this trailer four times today in 3D format, I've gotta say--the 3D really distracts from the beautiful visuals. My eyes hurt ten seconds in. I'll see it once in 3D, as Ridley intended, but after that I think I'll stick to 2D, thank ye very much.
My eyes are watering. I have never cried from happiness....until now.
Brilliant trailer.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 18, 2012, 02:42:31 AM
After seeing this trailer four times today in 3D format, I've gotta say--the 3D really distracts from the beautiful visuals. My eyes hurt ten seconds in. I'll see it once in 3D, as Ridley intended, but after that I think I'll stick to 2D, thank ye very much.
I'll try and see this in 2D if given the chance. I don't see the big 'who-ha' behind 3D films. More of a gimmick really, that
needs to go away.
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interesting.
I dont know, I dont see an alien in it. Theres no common design with Giger aliens anywhere on it, except for the idea of the elongated head, and even that is of a different shape. theres also this Queen crown-like design above or around the head, but I tihnk its just a coincidence
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look below the "head". there's a ribcage, a smooth belly(it kinda looks like the Dog alien, somehow), then there's hips and two legs going down. and to the sides, there's the arms, extended. in a cross.
there IS an alien hidden there, and it's making THIS pose:
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vague similarities tho, and more so with runner as you said than Gigers alien of the original movie. People and animals also have ribcages, its just the longer head that suggests alien
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The slim abdomen and legs/thighs match the queen more, than theres the crown. But then again, it might be just me seeing things
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I can't wait for June 8th My Mind is Goo right now.
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interesting.
There's DEFINITELY alien in this image. There's no disputing that. But I doubt it will have a bearing on the overall plot. There is talk of a second film so maybe that film (if made) leads into the Alien universe a bit more.
Quote from: StrangeShape on Mar 18, 2012, 03:03:00 AM
vague similarities tho, and more so with runner as you said than Gigers alien of the original movie. People and animals also have ribcages, its just the longer head that suggests alien
http://www.dvdvision.fr/jco/01063_Alien_Sibthor.png
The slim abdomen and legs/thighs match the queen more, than theres the crown. But then again, it might be just me seeing things
yeah, but animals don't have humanoid shoulders that can outstretch arms like that. and then there's the hip configuration, definitely a humanoid(like an alien) trait. and the most important factor: the smooth, featureless dome with a pointy jaw below making the face.
i've also noticed the weird things beside it can be interpreted as an eggsack, bent legs and arms, and bone appendixes to hang from. it's intentionally unclear, but it does a good job at reminding me of them.
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interesting.
There's DEFINITELY alien in this image. There's no disputing that. But I doubt it will have a bearing on the overall plot. There is talk of a second film so maybe this film leads into the Alien universe a bit more.
Yes, it's going to be very interesting to see if this mural plays any part in the movie, whether it being a tangible object, or simply for display. Shaw does make reference to it in the trailer though.
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Mar 18, 2012, 03:09:15 AM
yeah, but animals don't have humanoid shoulders that can outstretch arms like that. and then there's the hip configuration, definitely a humanoid(like an alien) trait. and the most important factor: the smooth, featureless dome with a pointy jaw below making the face.
i've also noticed the weird things beside it can be interpreted as an eggsack, bent legs and arms, and bone appendixes to hang from. it's intentionally unclear, but it does a good job at reminding me of them.
Well, its all speculation by now. The answer might be even something none of us predicted
It all looks pretty impressive, but as I mention months ago..lot of similarities to AVP1.
Also, its not vaginal...its clearly C- section type..if you look closely, the staples?
I'm glad its not about the Alien. I'm reallyyyyyy digging the Space Jockey now. I asked this before but is that Ian Whyte playing him?
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This is what I am assuming Shaw is in when getting the....whatever removed.
Good find, those staples.
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It's coming out of the goddamn walls!!!!
Oh hell yea! :)
This is certainly one of the most interesting images for me, there's so much seemingly going on in there, yet it could be nothing at all....
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At around 2:08-2:09, where Shaw is making her way through the halls of the ship, slowly and painfully, we get a glimpse of a massive figure just around the corner, perhaps chasing her. But this looked to be something large and reddish -- or my eyes are playing tricks on me. It didn't strike me as the blue guy, but I can be wrong. If someone can get a clear freeze frame..... ;). I think this can be very interesting.
Something I've noticed in the new trailer that's a bit odd...
In the new trailer, we see this scene;
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Whereas in the previous trailer, it looked like this;
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I wonder why this difference exists. It's clearly the same scene (I think?) so the difference we're seeing must have been done in post-production, unless there's another explanation?
It's just one of a great many questions I'm left pondering after viewing todays releases.
Oh, and that's a great find with the stomach staples, Redleader...
Quote from: Xenomoron on Mar 18, 2012, 03:28:39 AM
At around 2:08-2:09, where Shaw is making her way through the halls of the ship, slowly and painfully, we get a glimpse of a massive figure just around the corner, perhaps chasing her. But this looked to be something large and reddish -- or my eyes are playing tricks on me. It didn't strike me as the blue guy, but I can be wrong. If someone can get a clear freeze frame..... ;). I think this can be very interesting.
Its just a suit. I did a frame by frame, it doesn't move at all.
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interesting.
There's DEFINITELY alien in this image. There's no disputing that. But I doubt it will have a bearing on the overall plot. There is talk of a second film so maybe this film leads into the Alien universe a bit more.
When does she make reference to it? The part when she says "Prometheus are you seeing this?" If so I didn't realize that's what she was referring to.
Yes, it's going to be very interesting to see if this mural plays any part in the movie, whether it being a tangible object, or simply for display. Shaw does make reference to it in the trailer though.
Quote from: Arcyarc on Mar 18, 2012, 03:30:15 AM
Something I've noticed in the new trailer that's a bit odd...
In the new trailer, we see this scene;
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Whereas in the previous trailer, it looked like this;
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I wonder why this difference exists. It's clearly the same scene (I think?) so the difference we're seeing must have been done in post-production, unless there's another explanation?
It's just one of a great many questions I'm left pondering after viewing todays releases.
Oh, and that's a great find with the stomach staples, Redleader...
Yeah I noticed this too, it almost seems like a bad case of CGI to cover up something, yet the previous trailer shows us nothing we can really know about anyway.... very strange!
It wasn't a invitation, it was a trap! HAHA!
Good god, alien murals, the structure itself is straight out of gigers head. An huge eel like thing that become purple somehow come out of shaw, dead space jockey's everywhere. Best of all there is no way Scott would blow the surprise and show off his monsters! I have faith that this will be one f**ked up movie!
Quote from: Xenomoron on Mar 18, 2012, 03:28:39 AM
At around 2:08-2:09, where Shaw is making her way through the halls of the ship, slowly and painfully, we get a glimpse of a massive figure just around the corner, perhaps chasing her. But this looked to be something large and reddish -- or my eyes are playing tricks on me. It didn't strike me as the blue guy, but I can be wrong. If someone can get a clear freeze frame..... ;). I think this can be very interesting.
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Looks like an empty spacesuit I reckon :(
Yes, and we see other ones hanging in the background too.
Quote from: Arcyarc on Mar 18, 2012, 03:40:37 AM
Quote from: Xenomoron on Mar 18, 2012, 03:28:39 AM
At around 2:08-2:09, where Shaw is making her way through the halls of the ship, slowly and painfully, we get a glimpse of a massive figure just around the corner, perhaps chasing her. But this looked to be something large and reddish -- or my eyes are playing tricks on me. It didn't strike me as the blue guy, but I can be wrong. If someone can get a clear freeze frame..... ;). I think this can be very interesting.
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Looks like an empty spacesuit I reckon :(
As soon as the HD video was up on youtube i went right for that scene cause i thought it might be a jockey in a suit with how quickly it flashed. I was very disappointed when it was just a suit.
Quote from: RoaryUK on Mar 18, 2012, 03:27:45 AM
This is certainly one of the most interesting images for me, there's so much seemingly going on in there, yet it could be nothing at all....
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I agree. I wonder if the SJ's are a long extinct race and the Ian Whyte 'humanoid' is something else...
And the Alien in the wall/ceiling? Has to be!! Even if it's only a reference of some kind, it's pretty neat.
But as someone else said, it seems out of place with what we already know.
It is all looking amazingly amazing and there seems to be so many dynamics at work here – I can't imagine any dead space in this movie. And to be honest, at least visually, it surpasses what I had hoped for.
But I hope that's the last trailer! We've seen a lot now.
theory:
so in the trailer it shows that somehow they figure out the ship (which is contained in the pyramid silo thing) is going to be on its way to Earth. Reminds me of a shitty movie called Supernova (with James Spader and Angela Bassett). Where in space, the characters find this glowing orb thing that changes the biological properties of people in close proximity to it (makes one guy an super strong crazy sorta monster, makes others super strong) and I can't remember how but its purpose is actually to explode on a cosmic nuclear scale and Angela Bassett's character's theory is that some gods created it so whenever any species gets too advanced enough (space travel) and find it.... it gets rid of them, maybe population control so humans or whatever species don't spread too much through the universe.
so is that what this silo does, built for when human's achieve space travel and stumble upon it, and once they enter it activates the ship full of bioweapons to go to earth and extinguish the problem?
So another thing I noticed that I found interesting was this scene in the new trailer;
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It's obviously some kind of 3d model of a Derelict-type craft, which is pretty neat in itself, but what I noticed that's particularly interesting is that I think that it also shows crew members location inside the ship itself, displayed as small yellow graphics. I've highlighted their location in this pic;
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Now, if that is a representation of crew members inside the craft, what it must mean is that in Alien, the egg silo that Kane is lowered into is not part of the ship itself, but is rather some kind of cave complex that the derelict is sitting atop.
There could, of course, be different sizes and functions of derelict-design craft, some being larger transport vessels, and some being smaller multi-purpose craft, but given that they appear outwardly identical, I think that that's unlikely.
Quote from: Arcyarc on Mar 18, 2012, 04:07:14 AM
So another thing I noticed that I found interesting was this scene in the new trailer;
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It's obviously some kind of 3d model of a Derelict-type craft, which is pretty neat in itself, but what I noticed that's particularly interesting is that I think that it also shows crew members location inside the ship itself, displayed as small yellow graphics. I've highlighted their location in this pic;
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Now, if that is a representation of crew members inside the craft, what it must mean is that in Alien, the egg silo that Kane is lowered into is not part of the ship itself, but is rather some kind of cave complex that the derelict is sitting atop.
There could, of course, be different sizes and functions of derelict-design craft, some being larger transport vessels, and some being smaller multi-purpose craft, but given that they appear outwardly identical, I think that that's unlikely.
I was actually thinking that while watching the trailer, that the underground cavern is obviously not part of the ship.
the cavern in which the alien eggs were was too huge for the ship in the first place. it was also placed below the pilot's chamber which was in the very center, and it ran very long both ways. we don't see that in this map. it would fit in the left arm, but that would mess up the location.
Quote from: Arcyarc on Mar 18, 2012, 04:07:14 AM
Now, if that is a representation of crew members inside the craft, what it must mean is that in Alien, the egg silo that Kane is lowered into is not part of the ship itself, but is rather some kind of cave complex that the derelict is sitting atop.
Thats pretty much what Giger said it is: '
[W]e had to combine the derelict ship and the hatchery silo. I thought we could place the egg silo under the ship, a bit like termites do.'
Quote from: echobbase79 on Mar 18, 2012, 03:31:13 AM
When does she make reference to it? The part when she says "Prometheus are you seeing this?" If so I didn't realize that's what she was referring to.
In one part she says "Overhead, they're changing" and I thought it was in reference to the alien looking mural on the ceiling. But, at the rate these theories are flying out of these threads, who knows.
Quote from: Black on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:39 PM
Whats goin on here then?
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Its a alien zoom in over her body
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 18, 2012, 04:21:06 AM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Mar 18, 2012, 03:31:13 AM
When does she make reference to it? The part when she says "Prometheus are you seeing this?" If so I didn't realize that's what she was referring to.
In one part she says "Overhead, they're changing" and I thought it was in reference to the alien looking mural on the ceiling. But, at the rate these theories are flying out of these threads, who knows.
I wonder why she was crying during that scene, too.
I bet the robot was behind that bit.
Or is that obvious and I'm just slow on the uptake?
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Mar 18, 2012, 04:24:16 AM
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 18, 2012, 04:21:06 AM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Mar 18, 2012, 03:31:13 AM
When does she make reference to it? The part when she says "Prometheus are you seeing this?" If so I didn't realize that's what she was referring to.
In one part she says "Overhead, they're changing" and I thought it was in reference to the alien looking mural on the ceiling. But, at the rate these theories are flying out of these threads, who knows.
I wonder why she was crying during that scene, too.
Also, what's the Jockey messing with when the chair rises out of the floor?
I just realized that was a tear. I thought it was sweat at first. That is interesting.
Also, what's the Jockey messing with when the chair rises out of the floor?
I'm assuming something scary happens first. Like the acid spray thing?
If I went light years into space, to another planet, inside some temple or complex and found structures-technology capped off with a giant human head you bet your a## I'd be crying too. Then I'd immediately soil myself and get off that planet.
Quote from: cmdcnqr on Mar 18, 2012, 04:38:43 AM
If I went light years into space, to another planet, inside some temple or complex and found structures-technology capped off with a giant human head you bet your a## I'd be crying too. Then I'd immediately soil myself and get off that planet.
I second this.
Quote from: Eldritch on Mar 18, 2012, 12:13:19 AM
I wonder what the significance of Charlize's dialog at the beginning of the trailer has in the movie.
"A king has his reign, and then he dies. It's inevitable."
Could it be that the "king" is Peter Weyland perhaps? Or our Creator?
I tend to agree with the consensus that the engineers are a dead race when discovered by the crew of the Prometheus. They can be re-born when another host is found. They share a similar biological structure to the ALIEN itself. Question is--does the ampule chamber contain more than one form of biological structure? The burial mound is very Egyptian in design and structure. Also, Egyptians certainly believed in reincarnation...
if that's true, then what is their relation with the xenomorph?
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Someone on Prometheusforums.net pointed out that there are 4 capsules in this one, in the other shots we generally see 3. I am wondering if the jockey come from one of these capsules/tombs.
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reference.
At the 1:37 mark of the new trailer, a better image of what Shaw appeared to be looking up at...
I enhanced the brightness and contrast...
You can clearly see a figure...most noticeable are the mid section and hip area...and the head which has very little detail...
Spoiler
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Lots of spectacular imagery in this trailer and it does seem to have a very ominous feel to it with a sense of looming horror. And it all looks lush and beautiful. I would have preferred gritty and "grungy" as Scott described it, but at this point I just want to see the movie and see how everything is approached. Some of the speculation is making me nervous (human like jockeys, mutations, a strong link between humans and the aliens etc.) but at this point that's all it is - speculation.
You know what I would love, if we somehow got a nod to the technology seen in Alien. I don't know how but maybe if there was a scene taking place on another ship or if there's a scene dealing with the company, they could show some of the other technology. In addition to the other nods to Alien, it would help tie things in some more and bridge the styles. I don't know if I'm making much sense here. I'm tired. :P
I just want this to be as amazing as I think it will be.
Things I loved in the full trailer:
- The buildup and sfx in the first 30 seconds.
- I haven't seen any of Noomi Rapace's work before but I'm liking her as an actress based on the footage I've seen of her in Prometheus. I love her very unique look and voice. All in all, a very strong ensemble cast. I was happy to learn that there are no "leads" in this, so to speak. It's truly an ensemble effort where everybody's important.
- That moment where a tear falls down Shaw's cheek as she says, "Overhead, they're changing," is great. It's unnerving almost. And you definitely get a sense of terror and awe at the same time.
- All the stunning new shots.
This needs to be R. This needs to be at least 150 mins long.
*Off Topic* Really bummed there were no PG-13 vs R questions. So many opportunities to have that question come up, but alas...nothing.
Ok, time for me to go to bed and dream of Prometheus.
@ Fiveways : perhaps there is going to be some connection between the pinkish brain-like matter below those sarcophagus-like structures? After and engineer is created in one of those--it is spent? Is this engineer re-created by something the crew of the Prometheus initiates? Is David directly responsible for the actual theft of alien technology that angers the Gods? He appears to be the one who activates the star map in the alien craft, where later we see the "engineer" holding the same Earth-like 3D image that activates the navigational chair in the center of the room. It all looks pretty damn cool to me!
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 18, 2012, 05:49:46 AM
*Off Topic* Really bummed there were no PG-13 vs R questions. So many opportunities to have that question come up, but alas...nothing.
Tons of people were asking on FB and twitter. They chose to avoid that question.
Im in love with this tralier ;D
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Mar 18, 2012, 04:17:02 AM
the cavern in which the alien eggs were was too huge for the ship in the first place. it was also placed below the pilot's chamber which was in the very center, and it ran very long both ways. we don't see that in this map. it would fit in the left arm, but that would mess up the location.
It's actually very difficult to say for sure. The Jockey and Eggs originally began in the same location, but at first it was a Temple. Then in came the Derelict to explain how the Jockey got there, while the Eggs remained in the Temple, until time and money constraints forced the idea of them both aboard the Derelict. Since no one really knew the size of the alien ship, it was left that way for years, and only recently (with the power of the internet mostly) have people began to ask deeper questions, hence Gigar's unofficial line of an Egg Chamber underground, while Scott has pondered several ideas. Even Cameron has been involved in the debate, his version of events saw the Derelict broken in 2 after a series of volcanic events, conveniently allowing easy access via a large crack in the belly of the ship rather than going underground. The truth is, no one really knows the location of the Eggs because no one bothered to decide, no one has gone back to the alien ship since the second film, so the questions have remained unanswered until now, but finally all that is about to change....hopefully.
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 18, 2012, 05:52:29 AM
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 18, 2012, 05:49:46 AM
*Off Topic* Really bummed there were no PG-13 vs R questions. So many opportunities to have that question come up, but alas...nothing.
Tons of people were asking on FB and twitter. They chose to avoid that question.
It's probably going to be PG-13 in theaters and a director's cut on bluray/dvd. But with the intensity of that trailer it still might have a hard time getting a PG-13.
It simultaneously got me more interested and gave too much away.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Mar 18, 2012, 06:04:04 AM
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 18, 2012, 05:52:29 AM
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 18, 2012, 05:49:46 AM
*Off Topic* Really bummed there were no PG-13 vs R questions. So many opportunities to have that question come up, but alas...nothing.
Tons of people were asking on FB and twitter. They chose to avoid that question.
It's probably going to be PG-13 in theaters and a director's cut on bluray/dvd. But with the intensity of that trailer it still might have a hard time getting a PG-13.
And the Imax trailer definitely look R rated. I think they might not be talking about it because they might not even know at this point. Ridley is probably still cutting a PG-13 version, or he might be waiting to hear if he has to do additional cuts to get a PG-13.
It's a mural and very much in the Gigar design :)
So this appears to be some kind of slide out control station? I make out a chair and a control board.(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/423706_293283810745110_100001904797379_726548_645219557_n.jpg)
Quote from: Narcissus on Mar 18, 2012, 06:34:16 AM
So this appears to be some kind of slide out control station? I make out a chair and a control board.https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/423706_293283810745110_100001904797379_726548_645219557_n.jpg
Yep, same chair found in the orrery shot.
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@fiveways :
I did not catch that was a chair in that previous image! Good eye! So is this David or the engineer? does this control start up the map?
Quote from: Narcissus on Mar 18, 2012, 06:46:07 AM
@fiveways :
I did not catch that was a chair in that previous image! Good eye! So is this David or the engineer? does this control start up the map?
David. there are shots of him...frolicing in the star map in one of the other trailers released today. Plus he is holding earth in one of them as well.
What I want to know is what's happening at 2:04??
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I haven't noticed if anyone has addressed the issue of these eggs yet? I can't imagine they would just be stones and serve no purpose unless the Jockeys have a thing for zen gardens.
I've seen the movie. I can't say anything about it -- at least not yet -- but my review should be on AICN shortly.
And who says there's only one Jockey? If that, of course, is the Jockey. Maybe it's a mutated... well, I'll let the mind wander.
Quote from: Disendor on Mar 18, 2012, 07:06:09 AM
I've seen the movie. I can't say anything about it -- at least not yet -- but my review should be on AICN shortly.
And who says there's only one Jockey? If that, of course, is the Jockey. Maybe it's a mutated... well, I'll let the mind wander.
Can you at least tell us if the movie was gory or not? And let us know when your review is up. Thanks.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Mar 18, 2012, 07:21:27 AM
Can you at least tell us if the movie was gory or not? And let us know when your review is up. Thanks.
I think there's evidence of that in the trailer what with the mutations. I'm not really sure why people are so obsessed with gore. Alien really truly doesn't have much gore beyond the chest burster. You have maybe a minute plus change of actual blood spillage throughout the entire film.
It's nice to see so much activity and so many people theorizing on here. :)
Months and months ago, a guy "leaked" some info from the Pinewood sets about what he had seen in the filming areas. I'm pretty sure the full "leak" is in the timeline thread, under a spoiler tag - I don't have the patience to go through it all to find it again, but I did copypasta the interesting bit of text into a Word file when I came across it at first. It reads;
"Though security on the set is very tight with the good weather, dock doors have been open and cast and crew have been enjoying lunch outdoors.
I can confirm seeing 3 aliens having lunch. Not the whole costume but blueish costumes and the unmistakable heads hanging around their shoulders"
"The alien heads were the same shape but no markings, only a plane bronze colour. As for the suits black boots and shoulder pads the rest was a Chelsea blue body suit could be for SFX, all the sets around the back of the bond stage have huge green chromokey maybe that's a clue.
I have witnessed foam cut outs of unmistakable aliens all cut in half lengh ways so they could be in the floor walls etc and very much from the original film."
Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 18, 2012, 07:32:57 AM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Mar 18, 2012, 07:21:27 AM
Can you at least tell us if the movie was gory or not? And let us know when your review is up. Thanks.
I think there's evidence of that in the trailer what with the mutations. I'm not really sure why people are so obsessed with gore. Alien really truly doesn't have much gore beyond the chest burster. You have maybe a minute plus change of actual blood spillage throughout the entire film.
It's nice to see so much activity and so many people theorizing on here. :)
I didn't say I was obsessed with gore just curious about the rating is all.
Maybe I miss heard but did someone say in the trailer that "the walls were coming alove"? :/
Quote from: Disendor on Mar 18, 2012, 07:06:09 AM
I've seen the movie. I can't say anything about it -- at least not yet -- but my review should be on AICN shortly.
And who says there's only one Jockey? If that, of course, is the Jockey. Maybe it's a mutated... well, I'll let the mind wander.
Yeah sure you saw the movie... right.
Just found this on AICN. It's a short interview with Ridley Scott and one of the writers. He talks about the rating a bit and I'm pretty sure a PG-13 is in the cards judging by how he talks.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/54368 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/54368)
I love it...
makes my heart beating faster...
after 30 years..
we go back where it all started...
just awesome...
A good portion of what has been rumored as a leaked script revealed as true as shown in the various trailers so far, especially the revelation of the Jockey suit in IMAX trailer, and the invitation from the Gods as a motivation for outer space exploration. What other plot speculations you think will be part of the actual movie? The orgy scene? Hard to believe with all the talk of PG13. Unless it is MATRIX 2-style orgy, LOL. Are there Giants in this movie? Vickers turning into a "Star Beast?" David becoming human? The so-called Jockey operating the Derelict chair looks too human, and it is possible that this is a mutated David as seen standing over the waterfall in the beginning of the full trailer. The images are absolutely marvelous !
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The plot as revealed through the trailers so far seems to follow the original ALIEN: crew explores ancient relic, gets infected, chased around their own ship by skeletal monstrosities, decision to self-destruct, and a woman survives. They add a couple more plot points: Shaw impregnation, David story, the mutations. I think Scott & Lindelof has one more ace up their sleeve to differentiate this from Haunted House plot of the original movie.
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I haven't noticed if anyone has addressed the issue of these eggs yet? I can't imagine they would just be stones and serve no purpose unless the Jockeys have a thing for zen gardens.
Jockey's Zen garden, LOL! Good one. I think the blue humanoid we've been seeing is not the Elder God, the Engineer, or the Jockey. This may be a mutated David, also seen in the beginning of the trailer, standing over the waterfalls. Vicker's words are very mysterious: "King has his reign. Then he dies. It's inevitable." She talks about death as absolute. She is warning against hubris of immortality which is probably Weyland's ambition.
Great trailer. I have been cautiously optimistic about this film, but after seeing this I'm really thinking this will be a very good movie.
However:
Am I the only one who instantly thought of Team America with the "it's inevitable" line? :)
This caught my attention too.
Theres another shot in the trailer at 1:16 seconds where it looks like Xeno bodies on the ground and what looks like hive pieces. I know I'm crazy but its what I see.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Mar 18, 2012, 07:48:53 AM
Just found this on AICN. It's a short interview with Ridley Scott and one of the writers. He talks about the rating a bit and I'm pretty sure a PG-13 is in the cards judging by how he talks.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/54368 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/54368)
"He pitched me this sequence that just him talking about it scared the shit out of me. (Laughs) Now that I've seen it on screen, I think probably the most iconic scene in the movie is going to be a horror scene." - Lindelof
Quote from: Disendor on Mar 18, 2012, 07:06:09 AM
I've seen the movie. I can't say anything about it -- at least not yet -- but my review should be on AICN shortly.
And who says there's only one Jockey? If that, of course, is the Jockey. Maybe it's a mutated... well, I'll let the mind wander.
Aren`t you thesame guy that supposedly was invited on test screening? And IIRC you failed to post any form of evidence? Troll, Troll never changes...
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 18, 2012, 09:05:17 AM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Mar 18, 2012, 07:48:53 AM
Just found this on AICN. It's a short interview with Ridley Scott and one of the writers. He talks about the rating a bit and I'm pretty sure a PG-13 is in the cards judging by how he talks.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/54368 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/54368)
"He pitched me this sequence that just him talking about it scared the shit out of me. (Laughs) Now that I've seen it on screen, I think probably the most iconic scene in the movie is going to be a horror scene." - Lindelof
8) ;)
AHHHHH the HD download for the new trailer does not work, AHHHHHHHHH
Quote from: zakzak on Mar 18, 2012, 08:27:04 AM
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I haven't noticed if anyone has addressed the issue of these eggs yet? I can't imagine they would just be stones and serve no purpose unless the Jockeys have a thing for zen gardens.
Jockey's Zen garden, LOL! Good one. I think the blue humanoid we've been seeing is not the Elder God, the Engineer, or the Jockey. This may be a mutated David, also seen in the beginning of the trailer, standing over the waterfalls. Vicker's words are very mysterious: "King has his reign. Then he dies. It's inevitable." She talks about death as absolute. She is warning against hubris of immortality which is probably Weyland's ambition.
I agree, I've suspected the same thing since his first reveal. It does go along with the mythological implications of the title after all. However, I have trouble believing that all this tech that surrounds him was simply
grown after he 'stole the fire', it had to have only been in place beforehand. Or was it...?
The original '79 Jockey was shown to be massive in size as compared to humans. Would the size of Kane's "thousands of eggs" match in comparison to the size of that Jockey symmetrically to how they would for a smaller human who had adopted their science?
In the new trailer we are shown the segment where Noomi sheds a tear while looking at the ceiling, which is rapidly "changing". It breathes new life into the idea of the derelict being a bio-mechanical, organic,
grown structure. I suspect those little eggs to be miniature facehugger pods, containing something more protozoic like the slithering creature we've been seeing, or the early facehugger design cited earlier in the thread. Also consider the wriggling substance atop the coptic jar, and the much more voluminous goop shown being removed by David.
Considering how quickly the xeno in the original Alien was to develop, the whole rapid growth thing is never to be tossed aside when considering these films.
Can anybody post an image of the actual space jockey suit near the end please?
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When I saw Shaw shedding a tear in the trailer, my first thought was that it was a kneejerk reaction to getting her belief system shattered and simultainiously, the marvel of their discovery from a scientific viewpoint. She's deeply religious, seen praying and wearing a cross in the trailer.
I guess it's one thing to wonder and theorize about our origins and another to be actually standing in that chamber, looking upon the giant head statue.
I can't agree with myself whether the human/humanoid seen at the waterfall at the start, is actually the engineer/Prometheus on Earth or a human being after recieving the 'gift of fire' from the the engineer, meaning the gift is some technology on a biological level inside his body. What do you guys think about that shot?
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I haven't noticed if anyone has addressed the issue of these eggs yet? I can't imagine they would just be stones and serve no purpose unless the Jockeys have a thing for zen gardens.
I think those little shapes are just buttons to be honest :-\
Last year, We saw these buttons last in the Comic-Con footages. There is a screencap of it. Red and green lights.
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interesting.
I dont know, I dont see an alien in it. Theres no common design with Giger aliens anywhere on it, except for the idea of the elongated head, and even that is of a different shape. theres also this Queen crown-like design above or around the head, but I tihnk its just a coincidence
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Come man, enough with this bust. It's not from Prometheus. It's from Necronomicon.
SYNAPSE REESTABLISHER
Weyland Industries earns patent number 18,364,003 for Method and Apparatus for device able to temporarily restart brain activity of deceased individuals.
AUGUST 16, 2071
I thought this was very interesting from the Weyland Industries timeline. Probably play a major role in the movie, or maybe a plot twist.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 18, 2012, 11:39:31 AM
Last year, We saw these buttons last in the Comic-Con footages. There is a screencap of it. Red and green lights.
Indeed:
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I think that's Davids gloved hand activating controls that activates the map. He's seen kneeling right beside the controls when the map starts up.
^Agree.
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So this pic almost come to confirm the creation of the alien was carried out completely in the chair. Looks like that folk (I now think It is android David) is going to use those little eggs (must be the eggs where those little jumping worms that later become serpents come from) to fusion his DNA with the "serpents" DNA while in the chair with the jockey suit on, and create the ultimate weapon of destruction they want to use on earth, the alien, btw seen in that mural of the film. That must represent doom in the form of the alien.
ı dont want to rain on your parade put these are not "EGGS"...they are buttons of operating console of sc tech...
Quote from: mcknife on Mar 18, 2012, 12:15:14 PM
ı dont want to rain on your parade put these are not "EGGS"...they are buttons of operating console of sc tech...
look the picture again
Quote from: Eva on Mar 18, 2012, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 18, 2012, 11:39:31 AM
Last year, We saw these buttons last in the Comic-Con footages. There is a screencap of it. Red and green lights.
Indeed:
http://oi41.tinypic.com/2gxgryt.jpg
I think that's Davids gloved hand activating controls that activates the map. He's seen kneeling right beside the controls when the map starts up.
ı thınk the colorful buttons in this pic are the same with "egg looking things" you are talking about...
Is it just me, or does that scream towards the very end of the trailer (seemingly coming from Shaw) sound *exactly* like Sigourney Weaver during the final scenes of Alien (just before she blows the hatch in the Narcissus)? Wonder if it's a direct sample...
I can't stop watching. I mean, I.....
Wow. Wowowowowowowowowowowowow.
This ... thing seems to be a worm, with multiple 'tails' and a flat head that looks sort of like the chestburster with its mouth closed or smoothed completely over. Looks messy :P
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More images to analise...
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Is it a pilot seat? Is it a navigation system? Is it a big-ass canon? Now: is it an automated operating table?
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Reminds me a lot of Kubrick's 2001 decor
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First encounter with the slithery kind
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Interesting shot here. You can see David's little smile, his excitement at confronting powerful technology. I think he may infect himself with the bio-form: "The trick is, Potter, not minding it hurts."
so the jockey race was afraid of dieing out so they made a map and a tutorial to their "childs" to ressurect them when they got the technology and now they want to get back to earth to wipe out mankind for some reason with the eggs and there are good mutants and really bad mutants
??? this is what i get from this and this is why is this an almost prequel to alien
Hey guys, could someone upload the trailer to 4shared by any chance? I can only use the internet from a library, and Mediafire is blocked here. I'd really appreciate it, thanks.
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 18, 2012, 12:44:56 PM
This ... thing seems to be a worm, with multiple 'tails' and a flat head that looks sort of like the chestburster with its mouth closed or smoothed completely over. Looks messy :P
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Looks like this with a fatty body and bigger tentacles.
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 18, 2012, 02:02:09 AM
Quote from: cmdcnqr on Mar 18, 2012, 02:00:04 AM
"we were so wrong, we were so wrong" ....about the invitation. it's not a map, it's not an invitation. It's a Trap.
Or a warning.
Heh.
Anyone seeing the most probable connection of Prometheus to Alien here?
as much i saw i have to say David8 is much more creepier than Vickers :D
Quote from: Tidus on Mar 18, 2012, 01:19:08 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 18, 2012, 12:44:56 PM
This ... thing seems to be a worm, with multiple 'tails' and a flat head that looks sort of like the chestburster with its mouth closed or smoothed completely over. Looks messy :P
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Looks like this with a fatty body and bigger tentacles.
Looks like Davy Jones in his happier days
I think that's the point ;)
i think that guy is mutated as fu**
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and im still thinking about that we are watching the trailer of the firs 1 hour out of 2-3 hours
- discovery on earth
- travel
- discover the alien technology
- finding out the real meaning of the whole "invitation"
- alien artifact leaving
- prometheus crashing to alien artifact to stop it from taking over earth
- ????
- ????
- ????
- ????
...
??? - i think this is where hell breaks lose and we got 1-2 hour of terror
This looks amazing I want to see it now the only thing is why is there a squid is it a da hugged or something because that confuses me anyone know what it is
Quote from: Narcissus on Mar 18, 2012, 06:34:16 AM
So this appears to be some kind of slide out control station? I make out a chair and a control board.https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/423706_293283810745110_100001904797379_726548_645219557_n.jpg
the thing that bothers me about this (and the wide shot of the whole room), is that it's the size for a human. the doors and the chair look really small for a Jockey
I think the squid grows into whatever it is locked in that room that shaw is peering into into the other trailer...
So, yes, I'm liking what I see. A knee-jerk reaction is that firstly Noomi looks botoxed to hell, and oddly enough, a couple of acting cues didn't come off to me as too believable "it's an invitation" (and they look at each other). I write this because I hold the acting in ALIEN as a tour deforce and absolutely 100 percent believable.
I like that I have a couple of negative criticisms, it keeps my expectations grounded
Quote from: zakzak on Mar 18, 2012, 12:59:52 PM
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Is it a pilot seat? Is it a navigation system? Is it a big-ass canon? Now: is it an automated operating table?
this is the top of the 'canon' part of that seat when it comes up, i presume
Spoiler
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Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 18, 2012, 02:00:29 PM
So, yes, I'm liking what I see. A knee-jerk reaction is that firstly Noomi looks botoxed to hell, and oddly enough, a couple of acting cues didn't come off to me as too believable "it's an invitation" (and they look at each other). I write this because I hold the acting in ALIEN as a tour deforce and absolutely 100 percent believable.
I like that I have a couple of negative criticisms, it keeps my expectations grounded
I agree. The delivery of that line makes me cringe.
The in-trailer editing won't be the same in the film. The trailer's to condense the general idea, obviously with a bit less flair.
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 18, 2012, 12:44:56 PM
This ... thing seems to be a worm, with multiple 'tails' and a flat head that looks sort of like the chestburster with its mouth closed or smoothed completely over. Looks messy :P
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Whatever it is I think that those canopy doors should not be opening. If it was a controlled extraction/implantation by another member of the crew it seems logical to have the f**ker shut. The whole time. Something is wrong. But no ER style human activity in the frame. Interesting.
Looks like a straight up cuddle fish. Hopefully there is more to it than just that earthy reference.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 18, 2012, 02:00:29 PM
So, yes, I'm liking what I see. A knee-jerk reaction is that firstly Noomi looks botoxed to hell, and oddly enough, a couple of acting cues didn't come off to me as too believable "it's an invitation" (and they look at each other). I write this because I hold the acting in ALIEN as a tour deforce and absolutely 100 percent believable.
I like that I have a couple of negative criticisms, it keeps my expectations grounded
I know what your talking about when you thought Noomi appeared that way. But only during the briefing scene in what appears to be a docking port of some sort. The rest of the trailer she looks 'normal' to me. I can't call it. But I wouldn't call it botoxed. But there is something ...
And in terms of acting ... I don't think Alien will be outdone. To many awesome character actors crammed into that film. Ridley himself said he was afraid of Actors back then, so obviously they were 'let loose' to do mostly their own thing in the original. This time around he's intimidating the Actors. He's calling the shots. So it's going to be different. Less 'natural' and more 'staged' feeling I bet.
While Alien was a group of actors 'alone' both in character and direction ... it felt REAL when the director spent most of his time developing the horror that unfolds around them instead of guiding them through it.
I have every faith in this film making recipe though. The acting won't be Alien, but it's going to be the better than anything we've seen from this universe in 20 years or more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81qKZL3GgR4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81qKZL3GgR4#ws)
At WonderCon 2012
Prometheus 5:20
The actors in Alien talking over one another etc was done deliberately to wind up the viewer and make them feel distressed. Ridley employed that for the horror aspect. Prometheus goes further than Ten Little Indians in space, so he probably didn't feel the trick was necessary. Maybe. We'll see. We've seen very little of dialogue scenes etc.
Just watched the trailer, and.......holy shit.
Whats with the briefing scene taking place on a basketball court?
look at the markings on the floor. (still has the hangar bay doors though?)
That looked amazing, I've got a great feeling about this film.
At 1.35ish - mohawk guy says "are these things moving?" and gestures to his own helmet, also looking like he's slightly recoiling from something inside it. Fits with everything else we've seen about him, most obviously the apparently in-helmet explosion of acid/goo.
That full trailer was great, but if we want a clear look at the Aliens we have to wait and see the movie.
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
At 1.35ish - mohawk guy says "are these things moving?" and gestures to his own helmet, also looking like he's slightly recoiling from something inside it. Fits with everything else we've seen about him, most obviously the apparently in-helmet explosion of acid/goo.
Not recoiling. Nothing is happening yet on or inside him. He gestures that "You gotta be f**king kidding me" gesture.
Check out Noomi at 1:30. "They're changing."
Single Tear. Great touch.
EDIT**
Also, that shot we've all seen before of David pulling out the contents of the urn ... look much MUCH darker below the 'mandible/fingers'.
And ... Last shot of David. Very Ash. Ash with a dash of Hopkins Lector.
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
At 1.35ish - mohawk guy says "are these things moving?" and gestures to his own helmet, also looking like he's slightly recoiling from something inside it. Fits with everything else we've seen about him, most obviously the apparently in-helmet explosion of acid/goo.
He's just talking to someone on radio. Asking.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 18, 2012, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
At 1.35ish - mohawk guy says "are these things moving?" and gestures to his own helmet, also looking like he's slightly recoiling from something inside it. Fits with everything else we've seen about him, most obviously the apparently in-helmet explosion of acid/goo.
He's just talking to someone on radio. Asking.
Don't know how you can be so sure. "Recoiling" isn't quite right either, but it looks to me like he's tilting his head to the side to give the person opposite a better view, and his apprehensive body language strongly suggests that of someone with say, a bug in their hair - "can you see it?"
Also who is he radioing given they're the ones in there with "these things"? I think there's something in his helmet with him and he's asking about it.
The visual design along with the cinematography looks absolutely stunning in this. Just watched it in HD on my 40" tv and it just blew me away visually. I'm glad Ridley didn't try to just copy the gritty and dark look from the original, this is something different and I like it. Makes it easier to relate to as it's own beast instead of just comparing it to Alien which is perfect in it's own way.
The shot of Prometheus landing is glorious.
Quote from: marsekay on Mar 18, 2012, 02:51:45 PM
Whats with the briefing scene taking place on a basketball court?
look at the markings on the floor. (still has the hangar bay doors though?)
Subtle p!ss-take of one of the most notorious and hated scenes in Alien Resurrection?! Or is that overthinking it...
Quote from: Snowdog on Mar 17, 2012, 11:47:39 PM
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 17, 2012, 11:45:11 PM
Well, isn't THAT something?
http://i.imgur.com/pEkmK.png
happy to know i wasn't the only one that noticed that right away. It looks a lot like a xenomorph.
right anyone notice the chestburster squirming around over that one person in the cryo tube
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 03:17:51 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 18, 2012, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
At 1.35ish - mohawk guy says "are these things moving?" and gestures to his own helmet, also looking like he's slightly recoiling from something inside it. Fits with everything else we've seen about him, most obviously the apparently in-helmet explosion of acid/goo.
He's just talking to someone on radio. Asking.
Don't know how you can be so sure. "Recoiling" isn't quite right either, but it looks to me like he's tilting his head to the side to give the person opposite a better view, and his apprehensive body language strongly suggests that of someone with say, a bug in their hair - "can you see it?"
Also who is he radioing given they're the ones in there with "these things"? I think there's something in his helmet with him and he's asking about it.
Bad transmission. Approaching his hand to the communication system of the helmet. Probably talking to Shaw about what is happening in the other room.
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 03:17:51 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 18, 2012, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
At 1.35ish - mohawk guy says "are these things moving?" and gestures to his own helmet, also looking like he's slightly recoiling from something inside it. Fits with everything else we've seen about him, most obviously the apparently in-helmet explosion of acid/goo.
He's just talking to someone on radio. Asking.
Don't know how you can be so sure. "Recoiling" isn't quite right either, but it looks to me like he's tilting his head to the side to give the person opposite a better view, and his apprehensive body language strongly suggests that of someone with say, a bug in their hair - "can you see it?"
Also who is he radioing given they're the ones in there with "these things"? I think there's something in his helmet with him and he's asking about it.
Think about it for a second. If there was something INSIDE his space suit ... his pressurized, safe, air breathing space suit ... don't you think he'd be a little more distressed? He's way to calm.
I don't know what to think, if you look closely at the trailer, when they show the guy over the waterfall, it looks like his head starts to melt, and if I remember correctly, when the first leaked images appeared, there was a screenshot with David, and he appeared to be bald, and crying. So, maybe he did became the Engineer, as he seems to be very happy with what he found on the alien ship. He is always smiling, and we see him floating into the universe map. I think David will be the bad guy in this movie.
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Mar 18, 2012, 03:29:35 PM
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 03:17:51 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 18, 2012, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
At 1.35ish - mohawk guy says "are these things moving?" and gestures to his own helmet, also looking like he's slightly recoiling from something inside it. Fits with everything else we've seen about him, most obviously the apparently in-helmet explosion of acid/goo.
He's just talking to someone on radio. Asking.
Don't know how you can be so sure. "Recoiling" isn't quite right either, but it looks to me like he's tilting his head to the side to give the person opposite a better view, and his apprehensive body language strongly suggests that of someone with say, a bug in their hair - "can you see it?"
Also who is he radioing given they're the ones in there with "these things"? I think there's something in his helmet with him and he's asking about it.
Think about it for a second. If there was something INSIDE his space suit ... his pressurized, safe, air breathing space suit ... don't you think he'd be a little more distressed? He's way to calm.
hes just replying to janeks line," we've detected a lifeform, "
so hes asking "are they moving?"
in other words hes asking if they are active or dormant.
You got me on that one marsekay. It Could be this. He's talking to Janek or Shaw. It has clearly nothing to do with something in his helmet.
Shaws "Birth"...
You can clearly see the creature being held above Shaw, which we can all presume somehow came from within her, but think about this...
Definitely not a "natural" birth (she still has her panties on), no evidence of any surgical opening from which the thing was removed from, which leaves only one conclusion which Ripley could REALY play on - Oral birth.
Well, he did say this movie was going to be nasty, and it seems like a logical follow on from the facehugger, which inseminates via (for want of a better term) oral rape - same similar idea, just a reversal of roles.
Quote from: Kronik on Mar 18, 2012, 03:49:11 PM
Definitely not a "natural" birth (she still has her panties on), no evidence of any surgical opening from which the thing was removed from, which leaves only one conclusion which Ripley could REALY play on - Oral birth.
Actually someone posted a picture of Shaw wandering down a hallway (in her white undies) and made mention of staples across her stomach.
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 18, 2012, 03:51:22 PM
Quote from: Kronik on Mar 18, 2012, 03:49:11 PM
Definitely not a "natural" birth (she still has her panties on), no evidence of any surgical opening from which the thing was removed from, which leaves only one conclusion which Ripley could REALY play on - Oral birth.
Actually someone posted a picture of Shaw wandering down a hallway (in her white undies) and made mention of staples across her stomach.
yep pause the trailer in the shot of her leaning against the wall (with a red space suit in backround) you can see a black strip accross her stomach and the staples below or above it.
Check this:
http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif (http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif)
This thing looks like squid.
Quote from: marsekay on Mar 18, 2012, 03:56:48 PM
yep pause the trailer in the shot of her leaning against the wall (with a red space suit in backround) you can see a black strip accross her stomach and the staples below or above it.
Quite right... Just getting caught up in all the excitement.
I dont think i have ever been quite as excited as i am right now about any other movie ........ That trailer has me completely stoked and im hoping the haters are just as excited now, Epic!!!
The specimen is hoisted on a crane in the operation tube, which might mean it was extracted from her somehow.
Looks like the creature above Shaw is in some swivel contraption that is holding the creature in place.. which would lead me to believe that she is not aboard the Prometheus.
Quote from: danrald on Mar 18, 2012, 04:26:11 PM
Looks like the creature above Shaw is in some swivel contraption that is holding the creature in place.. which would lead me to believe that she is not aboard the Prometheus.
I think it is,
i think the scene of her on the bed praying is her psyching herself up to go and get it removed by the auto doctor medical table thing.
then once its out she struggles back to the others and falls to her knees.
Quote from: Plokoon111 on Mar 18, 2012, 04:22:31 PM
The specimen is hoisted on a crane in the operation tube, which might mean it was extracted from her somehow.
I wonder what cool toys could be made from that scene? A claw machine where the player extracts the
specimen and has to get the wriggling beastie into a containment device? Or simply a variation on "Operation" with Elizabeth Shaw as the subject? "don't touch her sides, OR....BUZZZZZZZ" !!!
Oh my, this trailer has me so f**king hyped.
Or perhaps, Shaw was on that table, someone went in at night and placed the creature above her so that the creature would impregnate her.... after the impegnation, that someone would come back in and remove the creature.. don't know just throwing things out there..
I'm asking if someone could tell me the music name from the first part of the new trailer released yesterday?
Quote from: Adorianu on Mar 18, 2012, 03:59:59 PM
Check this:
http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif (http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif)
This thing looks like squid.
when i see this i see like appendicitis who become mutated and go out of the character (so not in mouth ) but is my opinion ^^ for what i see
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 17, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
Guys, 1:37. What's that look like kinda like to you?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2FCorpral_Hicks%2FUntitled-2.png&hash=dd020211ce893482f93ba9f67bf8fb0f986dd658)
What is that?i cant make it out.
Either it's an interesting design on a wall, or it's Alien.
Seriously this trailer. Even if the movie itself doesn't turn out as fantastic, this trailer on it's own is a near-masterpiece. The way of building the tension is heart-rushing and then that one last slow/quiet clip at the end with a striking line. Great dynamics! I get shivers at that point and also at the "cut it ooofffff, cut iiiiit oooffff" part. So intense it almost hurts. Visuals and cinematography are sci-fi magic too as I've mentioned in an earlier post.
What I probably enjoy the most about the Trailer is the fact that it's almost impossible to have a clear idea of the chronology of events in the film.
Fassbender's voice / acent sounds so ALIEN-ish in John Hurt's way. Good vibe.
Who is the guy screaming ''cut it off''
Hello
I'm a lurker here :)
The snake thing looks almost identical to the Giger one in the book Giger's Alien, page 5, even has the mottled pattern.
Gary
Quote from: Effectz on Mar 18, 2012, 05:21:57 PM
Who is the guy screaming ''cut it off''
Fitfield, I believe.
(Sean Harris)
^Can someone tell me what he's saying before that ? I can clearly hear. Thanks..
If someone makes a non-spoilery edit of the trailer please let me know!
Why is that door open i think he says.
Quote from: Adorianu on Mar 18, 2012, 03:59:59 PM
Check this:
http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif (http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif)
This thing looks like squid.
If you look closer you can see an umbilical cord connecting "squid" and Shaw.
I have only just recently joined the forum but I feel like now is the perfect time for me to exercise self-restraint and stay away until I've seen the movie. I think it's reached that point where I've seen as much as I want to see before seeing the movie and even though none of this is confirmed, some of the speculation seems to be onto something with regards to piecing things together. It's one thing to throw about random speculation but it's another thing to start putting together the whole movie before we see it. I want to be as surprised as possible. Part of the fun is the unknown.
See you guys in June. And hopefully it will be a forum filled with praise for the movie. ;)
I don't think that it is a squid. I see only 1 tail, I think the reflection on the glass behind Shaw is what you call a second tail, multiple tails.... but I still think it is a larger chestburster.
^This.
I can not get over how much the Prometheus looks like a Ron Cobb design.
Quote from: Bigticket on Mar 18, 2012, 05:36:49 PM
Quote from: Adorianu on Mar 18, 2012, 03:59:59 PM
Check this:
http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif (http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif)
This thing looks like squid.
If you look closer you can see an umbilical cord connecting "squid" and Shaw.
so Shaw will die...cool xD
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 18, 2012, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
At 1.35ish - mohawk guy says "are these things moving?" and gestures to his own helmet, also looking like he's slightly recoiling from something inside it. Fits with everything else we've seen about him, most obviously the apparently in-helmet explosion of acid/goo.
He's just talking to someone on radio. Asking.
he is asking ''IS THIS THING MOVING''? or something like that cause it seems the ship is starting to move
Quote from: Adorianu on Mar 18, 2012, 03:59:59 PM
Check this:
http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif (http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif)
This thing looks like squid.
It's hard to notice but if you look closely there are surgical marks on her belly in the shape of a inversed T, and that things ombilical cord goes to her stomach. Also i don't think those are tendrils, just a long tail, and the creatures legs,arms jerking around. The head is long and shinny and has some blood on it. For me this is definetely the chestburster. Question is why the hell is is so big,and how come it ended up in her belly.( No i don't believe in the rape scenario)
Quote from: Bigticket on Mar 18, 2012, 05:36:49 PM
Quote from: Adorianu on Mar 18, 2012, 03:59:59 PM
Check this:
http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif (http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif)
This thing looks like squid.
If you look closer you can see an umbilical cord connecting "squid" and Shaw.
The last scene in trailer shows Shaw and jockey ( or mutated Weyland acoridng to some theories) , so i wonder, what if the whole giving birth to a "squid" happens after some f**ked up rape/impregnation that we see a glimpse of in that last scene of a trailer ?
It's really hard regarding the Trailer to have a real idea of the chronology of events in the film. Which is a good point. We already are too spoiled just with the images.
Quote from: Semaka on Mar 18, 2012, 05:53:23 PM
I don't think that it is a squid. I see only 1 tail, I think the reflection on the glass behind Shaw is what you call a second tail, multiple tails.... but I still think it is a larger chestburster.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 18, 2012, 06:18:37 PM
^This.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1208.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc377%2FBatChainPuller%2FProm1.jpg&hash=0a55f2d61599a927c43e3fa45092023402ff7770)
I'm counting 3. Possibly 4 tentacle like appendages.
that sounds good...yummmyummm, but would be more grotesque if a guy mutant would rape another guy human :D
Quote from: SiL on Mar 18, 2012, 01:02:28 AM
"The Jockeys were out to get us all along!"
... really, movie? That's what you've got for us after 33 f**king years of people asking what that thing was? The footage is epic, but the plot can go f**k itself from what we just saw in the trailer.
I must confess I have the same doubts, alongside with a hope, that there is more behind the scenes, we have already seen.
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 18, 2012, 01:06:19 AM
The trailer reminds me of event horizon's trailer. Very similar feel to it [though this should actually be a good movie as event horizon is awful]. And that movie was a hard "R".
;D Once I have compared colour scheme and imagery of both films: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=40956.msg1228700#msg1228700 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=40956.msg1228700#msg1228700)
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 18, 2012, 01:50:40 AM
Anyone else think the Jockey-In-Chair shot is unfinished CGI? There's something kind of flat about it...
Not to mention the suit's a bit different than in Alien, but who knows if that changes somewhere along the storyline.
Yet to pay attention
Alien's pilot has a natural (human) skin colour, while
Prometheus' one is as grey as the chair itself.
Quote from: Arcyarc on Mar 18, 2012, 03:40:37 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1158.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp613%2FArcyarc%2FSuit.jpg&hash=ce6189ab501482d124cc2096e1351cb18f7feffc)
Looks like an empty spacesuit I reckon :(
His suit:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.cleveland.com%2Fmoviebuff_impact%2Fphoto%2F9776968-small.jpg&hash=24b1d161faf64770eed1284e3d2465aae1e128d9)
;)
Quote from: Narcissus on Mar 18, 2012, 05:51:42 AM
@ Fiveways : perhaps there is going to be some connection between the pinkish brain-like matter below those sarcophagus-like structures? After and engineer is created in one of those--it is spent? Is this engineer re-created by something the crew of the Prometheus initiates?
I was looking for a while at those sarcophagi, but unfortunately didn't find, what
Narcissus was talking about... If someone here can point them out on pics, will you post them?
Quote from: Effectz on Mar 18, 2012, 05:21:57 PM
Who is the guy screaming ''cut it off''
Isn't this captain Janek's voice?.. In trailer you hear him say "It's a ship" and "Whatever that probe is picking up, it's with a life form" Sound alike to me, however the desparate shout is intense to compare with usual tone.
New international trailer!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk#ws)
wow i love the new trailer. it definitely has more of a horror feel to it
tho the IMAX trailer has the best music/editing imo
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 18, 2012, 06:20:00 PM
I can not get over how much the Prometheus looks like a Ron Cobb design.
Just to illustrate my point better-
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-TRR8U7hCMSc%2FTlu0pWbkTFI%2FAAAAAAAACLA%2F__yL1Aoq79s%2Fs1600%2FUntitled.png&hash=a3d4c2aa18db9dd73c03288a7ca4fdca4f9a6257)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gavinrothery.com%2Fstorage%2FAC_Callisto_001_SNARK_by_Ron_Cobb.jpg%3F__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION%3D1317206520367&hash=97e9e74758f472edd13bd9ae30f66f23da8077dd)
(https://sites.google.com/site/incrediblefruit/Leviathanpaint.jpg)
Director of "blade runner" and "gladiator", why was Alien completely snubbed? So annoying that theyre not acknowledging it, can't help but feel its cannibalising Alien instead of prequelising it
I'm really starting to like that black character captain.
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 18, 2012, 06:50:15 PM
New international trailer!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk#ws)
Goodness these trailers are giving almost
too much away! Now it looks as if the leaping mutant is on
fire when he jumps, unless he's been that way all along and I am hallucinating.
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Mar 18, 2012, 06:56:54 PM
Director of "blade runner" and "gladiator", why was Alien completely snubbed? So annoying that theyre not acknowledging it, can't help but feel its cannibalising Alien instead of prequelising it
LOL, yea, I was surprised they completely ignore ALIEN. The UK trailer adds nothing new, emphasis on the archaeologists and their passion for their work.
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 18, 2012, 07:02:31 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 18, 2012, 06:50:15 PM
New international trailer!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk#ws)
Goodness these trailers are giving almost too much away! Now it looks as if the leaping mutant is on fire when he jumps, unless he's been that way all along and I am hallucinating.
yeah it's new. and there's a shot of Vickers using the flamethrower
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 18, 2012, 06:50:15 PM
New international trailer!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk#ws)
Great. A lot of new footages. I like this edit.
Here are some things I'm seeing in the america full trailer that was just released on saturday at wondercon. Many of these have been talked about earlier in the thread but I just want to try and provide some visual feedback with some simple photoshop annotation:
First: I must have been missing it or maybe it is just self evident but I think it's interesting that david is obviously being infected and bleeding in that close-up in-helmet screaming shot we keep seeing:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs13.postimage.org%2Fnc4ete19j%2Fdavid_infection.jpg&hash=d8ae7e18b4eb9d3d99555f0bb14976fd09b804d1)
Second: while I agree what people are saying about multiple tendrils in the close up shot of Noomi, it is clear that she is having a very chestburster-shaped creature w/ one long tail removed from her by the 'auto-doc' medical device. Please also note all of the "blood-to-mud" mpaa digital fixes to make the blood look black in the trailer. In the feature they drops all over the glass and Noomi's abdomen will likely be very red and bloody:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs16.postimage.org%2F52dvtznyd%2Fsomethingburster.jpg&hash=f160b23e5c0c1119918c582e3662558527f2f428)
here is my messy breakdown:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.postimage.org%2Fhsy5dn08h%2Fbursterbreakdown.jpg&hash=3b08f5ac7924aa641c28312edf179214b58c92f2)
Third: it is clear that what others are saying is true: She is stapled back up by the 'auto-doc' and is stumbling down the hallway to warn the people in the mess-hall:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimage.org%2Fbbmx0qqtr%2Fnoomistaples.jpg&hash=a157e6acc44d8bef80b70fdbdfce6df491481823)
Forth: I believe that we clearly see the tall bald blue engineer character (whoever he may be) first activating the jockey chair navigation-gun here:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs13.postimage.org%2F9ckqk7t2f%2FJockeywgunbreakdown.jpg&hash=43fca782065158fb7765c1c1e9f0d4d0baf16e22)
and then climbing into the chair and being instantly engulfed in the bio-mechanical flight/navigation suit that we know as the space jockey. Notice first that in movement we can clearly see a partially visible form under the articulated shoulder pads and outer ribs. Notice secondly that the inner ribs have the same sculptural patterns with one of hte many flute-like holes along his chest. Also there is a similar 'inverted' ribbing pattern on the revealed upper arm that has a lot in common with what we see on his thighs in the previous shot:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs15.postimage.org%2Fq3ftr3ncr%2Fjockeybreakdown_copy.jpg&hash=0d0c0645f9cbecb628e95229b8d13e0cee62143c)
That's it!
i think they are giving us too much spoilers...
^^Pictures are missing.
Quote from: mcknife on Mar 18, 2012, 07:14:42 PM
i think they are giving us too much spoilers...
I don't think they are. Just enough information to wet our whistle.
I like the U.S. trailer better because its just a nail biter but the international one has a more romantic, epic feel to it.
Jenga, It's not David in the first pic. David is well shaved. Not this guy. ;)
I think it would be cool if it's Shaw's boyfriend that gets mutated, maybe she has to kill him even (with a fire axe?) . Would be a nice emotional and disturbing plot-point
@Jenga
1. i don't believe that the veiny screaming guy is David but Charlie Holloway. we see him having that silver worm thing in his eye in another part of the trailer/s.
2. the alien baby or whatever does have more tentacles as seen here
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Mar 18, 2012, 06:42:55 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1208.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc377%2FBatChainPuller%2FProm1.jpg&hash=0a55f2d61599a927c43e3fa45092023402ff7770)
In the international trailer is shows the alien snake slithering into one of the crews uniform then it cuts to the guy screaming in his suit with all the smoke. Does anyone think that maybe the snake is a seed that can infect someone with a type of mutagen.
I think snake-thing gets into Mohawk`s suit.
Just saw the international trailer and liked it more than the one we saw yesterday. This one had both an amazing sense of wonder and dread to it.
The UK trailer was great! I'm honestly considering not watching any more trailers now. I'm more than satisfied until June, I think :)
The viral marketing should keep me occupied until then.
Voice over from brand new UK trailer: "This thing...appears...opened up from the inside."
Sounds like they find bodies of exploded chests just like the crew from the nostromo found.
Dudes look closely at the balc guy in the beginning of the trailer at the waterfall. Those black lines on his head are movin. there is one that is growing from the lowerback of his head,going towards the front.
And i like they find this clues anywhere but in africa that all those fake scripts mentioned.
Also wow at that giant structure they go into in the 2nd trailer, someone screams ''IT'S IN MY THROAT'',another one says something like THIS THING IS OPENED UP FROM THE INSIDE.
And the round thing over the waterfall is moving slowly to the right, definetely a ship.
Man so many things happennig in this movie lindelof said in the comingsoon interview it's 2 hours long,
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Mar 18, 2012, 06:56:54 PM
Director of "blade runner" and "gladiator", why was Alien completely snubbed? So annoying that theyre not acknowledging it, can't help but feel its cannibalising Alien instead of prequelising it
Trying to disassociate it with Alien I suppose.
Better question. Why do UK audiences of all people need to see that he's the director of Blade Runner and Gladiator? ::)
Quote from: Laufey on Mar 18, 2012, 07:37:22 PM
Just saw the international trailer and liked it more than the one we saw yesterday. This one had both an amazing sense of wonder and dread to it.
It has a totally different tone that's for sure. Not better or worse in my opinion. But I do think it better illustrates how the film will downshift from "Contact" to "Texas Chainsaw Massacre in Space"
I. CAN. NOT. WAIT.
I don't think I've been this excited about a film coming out ... ever.
Checking expectations in 3 ... 2...1
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Better question. Why do UK audiences of all people need to see that he's the director of Blade Runner and Gladiator? ::)
because we have short memories in the UK
Things are difficult at present...we have several generations of idiots that make up the masses. They need to be spoonfed everything. That includes being told that "a film might be good because it's from the guy who made these good films..." etc.
Bladerunner : for the guys
Gladitator : for the guys, but also the girls ("that Russell Crowe, so hot")
Quote from: Jenga on Mar 18, 2012, 07:14:40 PM
Here are some things I'm seeing in the america full trailer that was just released on saturday at wondercon. Many of these have been talked about earlier in the thread but I just want to try and provide some visual feedback with some simple photoshop annotation:
Second: while I agree what people are saying about multiple tendrils in the close up shot of Noomi, it is clear that she is having a very chestburster-shaped creature w/ one long tail removed from her by the 'auto-doc' medical device. Please also note all of the "blood-to-mud" mpaa digital fixes to make the blood look black in the trailer. In the feature they drops all over the glass and Noomi's abdomen will likely be very red and bloody:
http://s16.postimage.org/52dvtznyd/somethingburster.jpg
here is my messy breakdown:
http://s14.postimage.org/hsy5dn08h/bursterbreakdown.jpg
Third: it is clear that what others are saying is true: She is stapled back up by the 'auto-doc' and is stumbling down the hallway to warn the people in the mess-hall:
http://s9.postimage.org/bbmx0qqtr/noomistaples.jpg
Quote from: darknigthmare on Mar 18, 2012, 04:46:43 PM
Quote from: Adorianu on Mar 18, 2012, 03:59:59 PM
Check this:
http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif (http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif)
This thing looks like squid.
when i see this i see like appendicitis who become mutated and go out of the character (so not in mouth ) but is my opinion ^^ for what i see
i was right with my theory (off course maybe not about the appendicitis mutated xF)
...
Tentacles!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 18, 2012, 07:39:18 PM
The UK trailer was great! I'm honestly considering not watching any more trailers now. I'm more than satisfied until June, I think :)
The viral marketing should keep me occupied until then.
I'm with you on this. As much as I've lost my shit over the trailers we've seen so far, I almost wish I could unsee some of it. Those trailers are so juicy, they're actually at the very threshold of "f**k it, we might as well show the ending in this one!"
At least, in my opinion they are :-\
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Mar 18, 2012, 07:49:37 PM
Quote
Better question. Why do UK audiences of all people need to see that he's the director of Blade Runner and Gladiator? ::)
because we have short memories in the UK
Things are difficult at present...we have several generations of idiots that make up the masses. They need to be spoonfed everything. That includes being told that "a film might be good because it's from the guy who made these good films..." etc.
Bladerunner : for the guys
Gladitator : for the guys, but also the girls ("that Russell Crowe, so hot")
That would imply you have good memory for
Alien then, since it wasn't mentioned in the trailer ;)
Am I the only one, who preferes WondwerCom/US agressive trailer over the contemplative international/UK one? At any rate, new scenes and lines are great here!
With the release of the UK trailer it's obvious some type of slithering alien "worm" is quickly making it's way into a crew member's suit. This cut is about a half second longer and you can see flesh/human skin. Also, the SJs must be masters of genetics/biotechnology and there will probably multiple types of lifeforms; from goo, to "cuddle fish" and even to the much anticipated alien. I'm sure the new beast is under super-secrecy, after all- that's what we've all been waiting for!
Quote from: Vulhala on Mar 18, 2012, 07:58:29 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 18, 2012, 07:39:18 PM
The UK trailer was great! I'm honestly considering not watching any more trailers now. I'm more than satisfied until June, I think :)
The viral marketing should keep me occupied until then.
I'm with you on this. As much as I've lost my shit over the trailers we've seen so far, I almost wish I could unsee some of it. Those trailers are so juicy, they're actually at the very threshold of "f**k it, we might as well show the ending in this one!"
At least, in my opinion they are :-\
I still feel like there's enough that I haven't seen, which is good. Maybe I'll watch the TV spots when those hit, but no more full trailers. Especially at the rate they're being dissected on the forums. :D So yeah, I think I'm staying away from the full trailers now.
but so that I don't go crazy before June comes, give me more viral marketing please! ;)
Sooo, Prometheus is being released about a week early in the UK huh? First thing tomorrow asking my boss for PTO for May 29th... I can't wait until June 8th!
I feel like the new beast is going to be based off the Giger design that was very Xeno-like but had a tubular head and something like wings protruding from it's back. Right, the bird that picks out Prometheus' liver after it regenerates every day. Just a hunch, I'll be satisfied with whatever they come up with though.
"Kill everything! Do you copy me?!" 8)
Every alien movie has a badass black dude :P
Quote from: cmdcnqr on Mar 18, 2012, 08:08:20 PM
Sooo, Prometheus is being released about a week early in the UK huh? First thing tomorrow asking my boss for PTO for May 29th... I can't wait until June 8th!
The words 'PTO' and 'UK' just don't go together ;-) (PTO is 'Holiday' over here in the UK)
One vibe I didn't like from the trailer was that AVP expedition-exploration-deciphering some ancient texts thing...It looked kinda like that, at least from the trailer...
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Mar 18, 2012, 08:17:22 PM
One vibe I didn't like from the trailer was that AVP expedition-exploration-deciphering some ancient texts thing...It looked kinda like that, at least from the trailer...
I got the same exact vibe. Posted it earlier, actually, but its probably buried now.
To be completely honest, I don't mind the similarities. AVP had an excellent concept, it just wasn't executed to its full potential (I will always love that pyramid!). Maybe Prometheus will handle the idea better and take it in a better direction.
HAHA, thanks. I'm seriously going to look into flights and weight my options. ;-)
The scene of the briefing reminds me of Weyland's speech in AvP.
Love the international trailer !
It's tone and pacing is far more in line with the grandeur, epic scope and dark, sinister and foreboding atmosphere I've been hoping for all along
I hope the music used in this version is from the actual soundtrack too
Is there a 1080p version of the IMAX teaser available?
Thanks.
Would be nice to have a section listing all the videos so far.
if every synthetic's priority to protect humans then what they will do now?...i mean those things are "humans" aswel just ancient humans
ive got a feeling that david will go mad not vickersl
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 18, 2012, 08:28:00 PM
if every synthetic's priority to protect humans then what they will do now?...i mean those things are "humans" aswel just ancient humans
if they keep with the timeline bishop was a new model that had that feature , the old models were "twitchy"
yeah just thinking about that at least one of the synthetics will have a majer role in the film ...just look at the viral marketing , both videos are about synthetics
I'm betting this is going to be a really intense movie it's going to leave a mark in our minds if this movie dosent get any awards I'll be shocked and I bet it's going to be a long movie like about 2 hours and 30 min and tree will be at least one xeno or facehugger In this
Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 18, 2012, 07:42:19 PM
Dudes look closely at the balc guy in the beginning of the trailer at the waterfall. Those black lines on his head are movin. there is one that is growing from the lowerback of his head,going towards the front.
And i like they find this clues anywhere but in africa that all those fake scripts mentioned.
Also wow at that giant structure they go into in the 2nd trailer, someone screams ''IT'S IN MY THROAT'',another one says something like THIS THING IS OPENED UP FROM THE INSIDE.
And the round thing over the waterfall is moving slowly to the right, definetely a ship.
Man so many things happennig in this movie lindelof said in the comingsoon interview it's 2 hours long,
They're definitely finding that one clue from somewhere else besides Africa, Isle of Skye I think after looking at the locations being displayed when Halloway talks.
I looked over all the images and locations they're showing for the dig sites, and the closest thing to Africa is that it shows one of the clues being found in Egypt. Not that it confirms things either way, because the main discovery seems to occur elsewhere, but we need to remember Egypt is technically on the continent of Africa. Africa's a massive continent. After you cross the valley of the Kings in Egypt you're practically in another African country, though.
Could somebody do a post up of the jockeys helmet next to a shot of the thing being pulled out of noomi , the nasal tenticle of the jockeys breathing tube matching up with the squid esque tendril???
I find the idea of those huge jockey creatures facef**king the female crew members alot more frightening and disturbing than a facehugger :)
Looks like AMC theaters trailer has few unfinished effects and color grading!
The jumping man shoulder is burning, also:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2F1on1gw.jpg&hash=876c69b74e6f36e10c7125ad00f65cb2d7aab0cd)
!!! ???
Why have they shown EVERYTHING in this trailer?!? All story is revealed - why such nonsense...
I stumbled upon an episode of Ancient Aliens earlier today, and it was showing footage of Cowboys & Aliens - I wonder if they'll do the same with Prometheus. It seems fitting seeing as they basically talk about the kind of stuff in Prometheus in the show I've been told.
Is it just me, or does Shaw have an Irish accent in the trailer?
I'm Irish and it certainly sounds like a soft Dublin accent when she speaks, it's more apparent in "we won't have an Earth to go back to" line, but it's also there in lines such as "an invitation to what?"
Quote from: Pelax on Mar 18, 2012, 09:19:37 PM
Why have they shown EVERYTHING in this trailer?!? All story is revealed - why such nonsense...
wow really?
tell us what the story is then, i couldn't quite figure it out yet.
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 18, 2012, 08:13:52 PM
"Kill everything! Do you copy me?!" 8)
Every alien movie has a badass black dude :P
That sounded, to me, like 3 different lines cut together.
Well, this new UK trailer was a great thing to wake up to. I second the worrying "AVP" setup setup stuff. I'm sure Ridley will pull it off leagues better than that hack Anderson--Logan Marshall Green is still annoyingly out of place, though.
Also caught the differences between the UK & US trailer, re: the blood on Noomi! So THAT'S how Ridley plans on differentiating the PG-13 cut from R rated cut. The R-rated cut is gonna be nasty, indeed. Please, please be released R. I don't want to wait over half a year for the Blu-ray to actually see the movie as it was originally intended.
Has this been posted already?
The quicktime trailer site has the new trailer in a higher quality version weighing in at 175 MB for the 1080P version.
Quote from: Black on Mar 18, 2012, 09:51:43 PM
The quicktime trailer site has the new trailer in a higher quality version weighing in at 175 MB for the 1080P version.
Excellent, thanks! Now I can replace the Flash derived 1080p one :)
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Mar 18, 2012, 07:49:37 PM
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Better question. Why do UK audiences of all people need to see that he's the director of Blade Runner and Gladiator? ::)
because we have short memories in the UK
Things are difficult at present...we have several generations of idiots that make up the masses. They need to be spoonfed everything. That includes being told that "a film might be good because it's from the guy who made these good films..." etc.
Bladerunner : for the guys
Gladitator : for the guys, but also the girls ("that Russell Crowe, so hot")
Or
Bladerunner: For the artsy crowd
Gladiator: For the mainstream audience
Quote from: Pelax on Mar 18, 2012, 09:19:37 PM
Why have they shown EVERYTHING in this trailer?!? All story is revealed - why such nonsense...
??? Really ?
There is a lot of spoilering images but absolutely nothing about the real plot and the chronology of events.
Just watched the quicktime version, the quality of this thing is incredible!
kinda bummed the spacejockeys are just like...men... and not a crazy biomechsex-craze H.R. Giger masterpiece, but ill cope cause it still looks like the man can make a crazy science fiction movie
Quote from: Pelax on Mar 18, 2012, 09:19:37 PM
Why have they shown EVERYTHING in this trailer?!? All story is revealed - why such nonsense...
If the entire story is revealed then why after seeing all these trailers do i have more questions then answers? And why every time a new trailer is released I have even more questions?
Quote from: gooner_no1 on Mar 18, 2012, 09:24:00 PM
Is it just me, or does Shaw have an Irish accent in the trailer?
I'm Irish and it certainly sounds like a soft Dublin accent when she speaks, it's more apparent in "we won't have an Earth to go back to" line, but it's also there in lines such as "an invitation to what?"
Glad I am not the only one who thought that....
APPLE HD ENCODE OF THE DOMESTIC (US) TRAILER (480p, 720p, 1080p) :D
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox/prometheus/ (http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox/prometheus/)
If you don't know how to download Trailers from Itunes. Here's the Tip with Firefox
1) Download a User Agent Switcher
Here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/ (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/)
2) You need to create a Quicktime 'user-agent'. To do this, navigate from the Tools menu (press the 'Alt' key if you cannot see the menu bar where the Tools pulldown is) and select Default User Agent>>Edit User Agents...then New>>New User Agent - from here clear all fields then enter Quicktime under Description and QuickTime/7.6.2 under User Agent. Click OK to save the newly created User Agent setting. Now, whenever you want to download a trailer access the Tools menu and select Default User Agent>>Quicktime and the download links should work when you try and watch or download them via Firefox.
Don't forget to switch to the Quicktime User Agent each time you want to download a Trailer from Itunes.
Absolutely love both new trailers. Mad pumped for this film. Easily my most anticipated film of the summer :D
Get it before it's gone, trust me its frame-by-frame heaven :D :
http://www.mediafire.com/?b9pckcttdaypit2 (http://www.mediafire.com/?b9pckcttdaypit2)
It's taken me a bit to get used to a bigger scope when it comes to the Alien Universe. Seeing people walking outside, and just the grandness of it all is not something I'm used to.
Can anyone make out what they're saying in the international trailer at 1:37 to 1:40? I can make out "What is that?" and then "Are these things moving?" but not what's in between.
Quote from: vehtam on Mar 18, 2012, 09:15:23 PM
Looks like AMC theaters trailer has few unfinished effects and color grading!
The jumping man shoulder is burning, also:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2F1on1gw.jpg&hash=876c69b74e6f36e10c7125ad00f65cb2d7aab0cd)
!!! ???
it may just be the trailer. blood on a person would not make it an r rating.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 18, 2012, 10:26:34 PM
It's taken me a bit to get used to a bigger scope when it comes to the Alien Universe. Seeing people walking outside, and just the grandness of it all is not something I'm used to.
Me either, but I like it. I have always loved 'archaeology in space' themes, and to combine that with potentially
Alien-esque horror... excited. Very excited.
Quote from: rparker on Mar 18, 2012, 10:29:17 PM
Can anyone make out what they're saying in the international trailer at 1:37 to 1:40? I can make out "What is that?" and then "Are these things moving?" but not what's in between.
I can't hear for some but there is:
- "We have to go now !"
- "I've got a man down here."
- "These things are opened up from the inside."
- "It's in my suit.....It's in my suit."
Well. Just saw it now.
I f**king came.
OK after my mohawk comments I should probably quit while I'm ahead, and this is a bit wack...but does anyone else see tiny xeno teeth/mouth on the weird wriggling thing at 1:31?
First time I've clocked the little tendril thing wriggling in the eye -- (Intl trailer: 1,52).
'Orrible!
Also we get a good look at the mechanical arm the in the surgical bay holding the slug thing.
I wonder if that's part of the score?,it sounds like the guys work,i was hoping for something different if so
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Mar 18, 2012, 10:58:40 PM
Well. Just saw it now.
I f**king came.
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Quote from: vehtam on Mar 18, 2012, 09:15:23 PM
Looks like AMC theaters trailer has few unfinished effects and color grading!
The jumping man shoulder is burning, also:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2F1on1gw.jpg&hash=876c69b74e6f36e10c7125ad00f65cb2d7aab0cd)
!!! ???
Am I the only one who thinks "Tampex commercial" when I see this?
Well I think we know who the old guy is in the teaser trailer now..........Guy Pearce.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Mar 18, 2012, 10:58:40 PM
Well. Just saw it now.
I f**king came.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1101.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg425%2Fmrmagoo6%2F2m4yeeq.png&hash=226f88939710eebd484429a3452a0aec5c9f5fd9)
Regarding the AVP similarity, I'm not fussed considering AVP bothered those elements from the original Alien - Prometheus is just taking them back ;) Furthermore, considering that at the AMC event they showed the trailer and Ridley was still coy about revealing any plot details, I think they've kept quite a bit hidden. They've kept so much secret, I don't think they'll blow it all so soon. I'm confident we're still in for some surprises.
So are the Space Jockeys supposed to be hostile or what?
^I think they're evil and everything is a trap.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 18, 2012, 11:41:13 PM
^I think they're evil and everything is a trap.
Perhaps, if they had Admiral Ackbar with them, there would be a fighting chance.
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 18, 2012, 11:43:37 PM
Perhaps, if they had Admiral Ackbar with them, there would be a fighting chance.
;D
Space Jockey's aren't evil. They just don't like being woken up before noon.
Seems like this hasn't been posted:
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:o Finally something of the xenomorph in the movie!
Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 18, 2012, 11:46:06 PM
Space Jockey's aren't evil. They just don't like being woken up before noon.
Especially if they were out late with their mates, the previous night. Probably had too much Saurian brandy while chasing Archturian poontang.
Quote from: vehtam on Mar 18, 2012, 09:15:23 PM
Looks like AMC theaters trailer has few unfinished effects and color grading!
[Red vs Blue image]
Saw this also, blue vs. red blood. Looks like a nasty 'birth' regardless ;)
Points from trailer to highlight:
Spoiler
- Starmap found in ancient inscriptions leads them to their treck.
- David looks personally interested in this.
- Shots of the ship which lands in front of a stone complex of some description.
- David asks someone "How far would you go to get your answers? What would you be willing to do?" in a scene shot in the interior of the ship.
- We see a team of 6 hop out of the RT01's and buggies, and walk into the bowels of the complex.
- Queue inscriptions from previous trailer on the wall & laser imaging drones + giant head scene.
- Vickers exclaims "They were right." with a rather calm look on her face.
- David points his torch at the top of an urn in the ampule room. (presumably leads to the shot from previous trailer of him smiling and observing something small wriggling)
Quotes during scene montage ensue:
Spoiler
- [male] "What is that?"
- [males] "Just got a ping. [BLEEP]", "What do you mean a ping?", "One click west of you..."
- [males] "Are these things moving!?"
- [something a female is saying I can't make out.. something about God?]
- [male] "Are you seeing this?"
- [female] "We have to go now!"
- [male] "This thing has... opened up from the inside..."
- [male] "I've got a man down here!"
- [male very distraught] "It's in my suit! - It's in my suit!"
- [female very high pitch] "Prometheus!"
- [male] "What the hell is going on down there!?"
Further scenes:
Spoiler
- Jockey head/helmet on scanner, green/black goo in urn scenes.
- Holloway looks in the mirror at his eye. A leech like thing burrows itself into his eye.
- More scenes from other trailers.
- Scene with Shaw walking down an alley on the prometheus clutching the wall and something in her hand. Shes got red blood all over her this time. Staples in an abdominal wound and a lot of blood around the top of her panty line.
- More scenes from other trailers.
- The scene of the serpent like thing penetrating someones suit (definately human suit, the heavier exo one).
Cuts to guy getting burned inside suit scene. (Fifield?)
- The burning thing thowing the guy from the other trailer is a bit clearer as the shot is slightly longer. Looks to be Fifield still burning a bit, per the shot of him jumping off an RT01.
- Scene of the medpod, arm driving down past what is presumably shaws legs, centering as if ready to take or pull something from her private areas. Her right leg appears very bruised in one spot, no blood to be seen yet. Presumably the "embarassing" monster birthing scene Ridley alluded to.
- More straight forward shots seen before, then END.
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 19, 2012, 12:12:49 AM
Points from trailer to highlight:
Excellent summary...but you forgot Janek yelling:
Spoiler
"Kill Everything...Do you copy me !!!"
This is going to be the best sci fi movie since Aliens.
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 19, 2012, 12:19:03 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 19, 2012, 12:12:49 AM
...
Excellent summary...but you forgot Janek yelling:
Spoiler
"Kill Everything...Do you copy me !!!"
Left it because it was also in the other trailer ;), but yes there is that also.
Should I spolier tag the summary? :-X
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 19, 2012, 12:21:48 AM
Left it because it was also in the other trailer ;), but yes there is that also.
Should I spolier tag the summary? :-X
Is it in the Original full Trailer? Shit, I missed that, if it was.
In any event, if you wish to spoiler tag your summary, I edited my post so I wasn't directly quoting you.
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 19, 2012, 12:24:54 AM
Is it in the Original full Trailer? Shit, I missed that, if it was.
In any event, if you wish to spoiler tag your summary, I edited my post so I wasn't directly quoting you.
Thanks! Done, just incase.
Hm, maybe it wasn't and I thought it was?
On another note... can't stop thinking about this comicon image now:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/comicon23.jpg)
Abdominal eh?
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 19, 2012, 12:24:54 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 19, 2012, 12:21:48 AM
Left it because it was also in the other trailer ;), but yes there is that also.
Should I spolier tag the summary? :-X
Is it in the Original full Trailer? Shit, I missed that, if it was.
In any event, if you wish to spoiler tag your summary, I edited my post so I wasn't directly quoting you.
I didn't hear it either. Where is it in the trailer?
OK this is really frustrating - I've got a screen cap of Fassbender looking at the wriggling worm thing; it looks exACtly like a miniature version of the inner mouth of the xeno, with the teeth and everything. But I'm not allowed to post screencaps; can I email it to someone else who can or something? Or can one of the mods let me post an attachment?...
It's three frames into the shot, around 1:31 of the US trailer if anyone's interested.
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 19, 2012, 12:29:08 AM
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 19, 2012, 12:24:54 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 19, 2012, 12:21:48 AM
Left it because it was also in the other trailer ;), but yes there is that also.
Should I spolier tag the summary? :-X
Is it in the Original full Trailer? Shit, I missed that, if it was.
In any event, if you wish to spoiler tag your summary, I edited my post so I wasn't directly quoting you.
I didn't hear it either. Where is it in the trailer?
Appologies... it wasn't! Not sure why I thought I'd already heard him say it in another trailer... just watched them... nothing! I've got Prometheus fever it seems :-\
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 19, 2012, 12:31:17 AM
OK this is really frustrating - I've got a screen cap of Fassbender looking at the wriggling worm thing; it looks exACtly like a miniature version of the inner mouth of the xeno, with the teeth and everything. But I'm not allowed to post screencaps; can I email it to someone else who can or something? Or can one of the mods let me post an attachment?...
It's three frames into the shot, around 1:31 of the US trailer if anyone's interested.
Upload it to http://tinypic.com/ (http://tinypic.com/) and post the link?
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 19, 2012, 12:29:08 AM
I didn't hear it either. Where is it in the trailer?
If you are talking about my ealier post, and when Janek shouts:
Spoiler
"Kill Everything...Do you copy me !!"
It occurs at 2:03 time stamp of the International Trailer -- UK. This second trailer has been added to the original (first) post of this topic.
Quote from: Caiman on Mar 19, 2012, 12:44:08 AM
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 19, 2012, 12:31:17 AM
OK this is really frustrating - I've got a screen cap of Fassbender looking at the wriggling worm thing; it looks exACtly like a miniature version of the inner mouth of the xeno, with the teeth and everything. But I'm not allowed to post screencaps; can I email it to someone else who can or something? Or can one of the mods let me post an attachment?...
It's three frames into the shot, around 1:31 of the US trailer if anyone's interested.
Upload it to http://tinypic.com/ (http://tinypic.com/) and post the link?
Good thought, thanks. Never used that site before but here it is:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2Fnebaqq.jpg&hash=0d691d8f3ccd0ae63310614d36b40808814f2e32)
Am I crazy or do people see what I mean? Also, in context, it wriggles around in a way that, immediately afterwards, looks a bit like "lips" closing around those "teeth"
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 19, 2012, 12:47:59 AM
Quote from: Caiman on Mar 19, 2012, 12:44:08 AM
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 19, 2012, 12:31:17 AM
OK this is really frustrating - I've got a screen cap of Fassbender looking at the wriggling worm thing; it looks exACtly like a miniature version of the inner mouth of the xeno, with the teeth and everything. But I'm not allowed to post screencaps; can I email it to someone else who can or something? Or can one of the mods let me post an attachment?...
It's three frames into the shot, around 1:31 of the US trailer if anyone's interested.
Upload it to http://tinypic.com/ (http://tinypic.com/) and post the link?
Good thought, thanks. Never used that site before but here it is:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2Fnebaqq.jpg&hash=0d691d8f3ccd0ae63310614d36b40808814f2e32)
Am I crazy or do people see what I mean? Also, in context, it wriggles around in a way that, immediately afterwards, looks a bit like "lips" closing around those "teeth"
Reminds me very much of the vertical drips in the original film.
I see a little similarity with AVP (och...that hurts, who throw that shoe at me?? ) , little of ancient aliens theory, ancient structure, a team of experts, ancient hieroglyphs, meeting with "living god creators"...I mean, this is how AVP should have been about, if Scott directed it instead of Anderson
I remember once someone told me Aliens original form was small little bugs.
Quote from: AsapJockey on Mar 19, 2012, 12:58:34 AM
I remember once someone told me Aliens original form was small little bugs.
Never heard of...interesting..so Aliens as we know them are mixed bugs with human genes ?? Sounds plausible because of the humanoid features of aliens...
Quote from: AsapJockey on Mar 19, 2012, 12:58:34 AMI remember once someone told me Aliens original form was small little bugs.
There was a fan script called
Alien Harvest that had the xenos as small insect-sized creatures in their 'pure' form. They got into a cat, grew bigger and then were planted on the Derelict by an android agent. Just a fan script though.
I'm thinking that the small jumping things are some kind of nano-tech material.
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f**kING AWESOME TRAILER
THANK YOU RIPLEY SCOTT, THANK YOU x 3
Space f**king jockey
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A SPACE CAT you say, was the reason the Aliens got Bigger?
^ lol
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 19, 2012, 01:04:57 AM
Quote from: AsapJockey on Mar 19, 2012, 12:58:34 AMI remember once someone told me Aliens original form was small little bugs.
There was a fan script called Alien Harvest that had the xenos as small insect-sized creatures in their 'pure' form. They got into a cat, grew bigger and then were planted on the Derelict by an android agent. Just a fan script though.
I'm thinking that the small jumping things are some kind of nano-tech material.
Android agent..sounds like Fassbenders role...Scott must be reading fan-fiction here :)
Quote from: AsapJockey on Mar 19, 2012, 01:14:00 AM
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A SPACE CAT you say, was the reason the Aliens got Bigger?
Arr god! f**k! Damn you... ;D
Ok so this trailer has given me a few theories on what I think is going to happen. So by now most of us know the Space Jockey fossil body in the original "Alien" is a suit. From this trailer we see the suit opening, and the the bald, grey, xeno suited dude standing next to the Jockey chair. Now at first I thought this guy was an alien who comes out of the jockey suit. However some shots in this trailer are making me think he is actually a mutated human(Most likely Logan Marshall-Green's character from the looks of things). So now I'm thinking whatever they find on this planet, be it the ampules or whatever, mutates him, takes control of his body then gets him to go into the Jockey suit and try to fly the Derelict to earth. We see the Prometheus crashing into the Derelict and causing it to crash as well. I think this results in some sort of technical failure in the ship and the grey, bald dude has to break out of the suit via its chest. This is why the chest of the Jockey in "Alien" is broken and bent outward. From there on I dont know how the film will play out. Anyways thats just my theory. I may be completely wrong but let me know what you guys think. ;)
Quote from: taabuu2342 on Mar 19, 2012, 01:23:38 AM
Ok so this trailer has given me a few theories on what I think is going to happen. So by now most of us know the Space Jockey fossil body in the original "Alien" is a suit. From this trailer we see the suit opening, and the the bald, grey, xeno suited dude standing next to the Jockey chair. Now at first I thought this guy was an alien who comes out of the jockey suit. However some shots in this trailer are making me think he is actually a mutated human(Most likely Logan Marshall-Green's character from the looks of things). So now I'm thinking whatever they find on this planet, be it the ampules or whatever, mutates him, takes control of his body then gets him to go into the Jockey suit and try to fly the Derelict to earth. We see the Prometheus crashing into the Derelict and causing it to crash as well. I think this results in some sort of technical failure in the ship and the grey, bald dude has to break out of the suit via its chest. This is why the chest of the Jockey in "Alien" is broken and bent outward. From there on I dont know how the film will play out. Anyways thats just my theory. I may be completely wrong but let me know what you guys think. ;)
Its possible or that guy could be the space jockey as a human and then sits in the chair and then slowly changes into the space jockey
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 19, 2012, 12:49:12 AM
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 19, 2012, 12:47:59 AM
Quote from: Caiman on Mar 19, 2012, 12:44:08 AM
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 19, 2012, 12:31:17 AM
OK this is really frustrating - I've got a screen cap of Fassbender looking at the wriggling worm thing; it looks exACtly like a miniature version of the inner mouth of the xeno, with the teeth and everything. But I'm not allowed to post screencaps; can I email it to someone else who can or something? Or can one of the mods let me post an attachment?...
It's three frames into the shot, around 1:31 of the US trailer if anyone's interested.
Upload it to http://tinypic.com/ (http://tinypic.com/) and post the link?
Good thought, thanks. Never used that site before but here it is:
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Am I crazy or do people see what I mean? Also, in context, it wriggles around in a way that, immediately afterwards, looks a bit like "lips" closing around those "teeth"
Reminds me very much of the vertical drips in the original film.
Do you mean the goo dripping off its mouth in the original? If so I don't completely follow - what specifically reminds you of that? Think I'm probably not getting which bit of Alien you mean.
It may be coincidental, but the central blob in that image (the one that's most hyperactive in the clip), to me, appears to briefly retract "lips" around very xeno-like teeth, particularly in that still. Although it's so brief in real time you'd never notice it so it may be nothing.
theory A - blueguy/jockey is long dead and the crew revive him (with the weyland invention on the corp. timeline) and he tripps out over humans having that kinda power?
theory B - blue guy, whatever he is, the footage from the trailer is of him not on the derelict in the movie.... :o
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 19, 2012, 01:33:32 AMDo you mean the goo dripping off its mouth in the original? If so I don't completely follow - what specifically reminds you of that? Think I'm probably not getting which bit of Alien you mean.
I was thinking of the strange goo dripping upwards from the eggs in the original film.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 19, 2012, 01:38:12 AM
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 19, 2012, 01:33:32 AMDo you mean the goo dripping off its mouth in the original? If so I don't completely follow - what specifically reminds you of that? Think I'm probably not getting which bit of Alien you mean.
I was thinking of the strange goo dripping upwards from the eggs in the original film.
Gotcha. That makes sense now and I agree.
I also agree it's most likely nanotech.
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 19, 2012, 12:44:24 AM
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 19, 2012, 12:29:08 AM
I didn't hear it either. Where is it in the trailer?
If you are talking about my ealier post, and when Janek shouts:
Spoiler
"Kill Everything...Do you copy me !!"
It occurs at 2:03 time stamp of the International Trailer -- UK. This second trailer has been added to the original (first) post of this topic.
I ment the original trailer. Quoted the wrong one.
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I wish the Jockey temple looked a lot more Giger-y, like its original inspiration. Ah well :-\
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I wish the Jockey temple looked a lot more Giger-y, like its original inspiration. Ah well :-\
I hoping for that too
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I wish the Jockey temple looked a lot more Giger-y, like its original inspiration. Ah well :-\
I hoping for that too
I find it has aspects of that in it. I am glad they didn't go full "Dune" with it.
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I wish the Jockey temple looked a lot more Giger-y, like its original inspiration. Ah well :-\
I think it does!
Just 500.000 years older :D
There is one shot from the bottom of the thing looking up where one can make out the remains of a face on top.
Hmm. I thought the fat man images were done for Dune? I think the temple looks alot like Giger's egg silo design.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 19, 2012, 01:04:57 AM
I'm thinking that the small jumping things are some kind of nano-tech material.
Also reminds me of the nanotech "black goo/fuel" from District 9
I wrote something about all of this here:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42208.msg1287048#msg1287048 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42208.msg1287048#msg1287048)
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 19, 2012, 01:56:33 AM
I wrote something about all of this here:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42208.msg1287048#msg1287048 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42208.msg1287048#msg1287048)
Nice post, thanks for the link.
I'm curious to see how the Space Jockey gets to be so huge like it was in Alien.
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 19, 2012, 01:59:38 AM
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 19, 2012, 01:56:33 AM
I wrote something about all of this here:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42208.msg1287048#msg1287048 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42208.msg1287048#msg1287048)
Nice post, thanks for the link.
Thanks!
I'll even throw in another sreenshot! :D
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See the connection?
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Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 19, 2012, 02:07:39 AM
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 19, 2012, 01:59:38 AM
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 19, 2012, 01:56:33 AM
I wrote something about all of this here:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42208.msg1287048#msg1287048 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42208.msg1287048#msg1287048)
Nice post, thanks for the link.
Thanks!
I'll even throw in another sreenshot! :D
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/LarsVader/head.jpg
See the connection?
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/LarsVader/ALIEN-16.jpg
Good eye!
Screenshots from the 1080P UK trailer, which oddly enough seems to have the proper color timing and finished (or "more finished") visual effects than the US (and, as someone else pointed out, also features un-color corrected blood):
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If the UK gets a blood-soaked PROMETHEUS and we in the US get some sanitizied, "black" blood bullshrim, I will be one unhappy cinemagoer >:(
since the full trailer I think the whole engineer ship is a living organism ...
Also i renember someone of the cast said we will be very shocked when we will see a giant head piloting the space ship....
...so maybe this head isn´t just a statue ... maybe there will be a point in the movie when this head wakes up... pretty scary if you ask me...
How many engineers finally suppose to be in the movie? I´ve heard there will be elder engineer and normal engineer... maybe the head itself is the elder engineer...
So many questions ........
During The Walking Dead there was a TV Spot shown. Did anyone else catch this?
Some screenshots from the highest quality available source for the US trailer, the Apple 1080p:
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Look close: Shaw has an umbilecal chord attacked to the thing. Seeing as the Jockey accosting her in the hall is human sized, maybe she is its mother, the thing pulled out of her is it as a baby, and it rapidly grows into the adult Engineer?
I m looking for the real 1080p imax & international & trailer 1 without title.
Any idea where to look?
Quote from: PredAlienFreak on Mar 19, 2012, 02:24:40 AM
maybe there will be a point in the movie when this head wakes up... pretty scary if you ask me...
Whoah never even thought of that! That would be freaky as hell.
One of the many things I am wondering about is if an early form of a Xenomorph does appear in this film, it can't be the first as there is that image in the trailer of something that looks exactly like one in the wall, so they must already be in existence right?
Doubt it.
No early form of the xeno.
The xeno are an old in use weapon.
New creatures will be featured.
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 19, 2012, 02:39:07 AM
Doubt it.
No early form of the xeno.
The xeno are an old in use weapon.
New creatures will be featured.
Yeah but everyone has said the last 8 minutes is alien dna so there must be something that resembles a xeno.
Quote from: MR EL1M1NATOR on Mar 19, 2012, 02:45:15 AM
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 19, 2012, 02:39:07 AM
Doubt it.
No early form of the xeno.
The xeno are an old in use weapon.
New creatures will be featured.
Yeah but everyone has said the last 8 minutes is alien dna so there must be something that resembles a xeno.
Scott was speaking metaphorically when he said that.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 19, 2012, 02:46:16 AM
Quote from: MR EL1M1NATOR on Mar 19, 2012, 02:45:15 AM
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 19, 2012, 02:39:07 AM
Doubt it.
No early form of the xeno.
The xeno are an old in use weapon.
New creatures will be featured.
Yeah but everyone has said the last 8 minutes is alien dna so there must be something that resembles a xeno.
Scott was speaking metaphorically when he said that.
I don't expect to see a xeno as we know them or anything, but just the fact that a space jockey and weyland are in it gives it alien dna. I am just thinking the fact they kept mentioning the last 8 minutes it must be something pretty big.
yeah the whole damn movie once they get to the planet is Alien DNA from what we've seen, there must be something pretty remarkable connection-wise to Alien in the last 8 minutes for them to hint to that specifically
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 19, 2012, 02:32:20 AM
Some screenshots from the highest quality available source for the US trailer, the Apple 1080p:
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Look close: Shaw has an umbilecal chord attacked to the thing. Seeing as the Jockey accosting her in the hall is human sized, maybe she is its mother, the thing pulled out of her is it as a baby, and it rapidly grows into the adult Engineer?
sweet I love the space jockey attacking Noomi Rapace
I like this one. So yellow is the team and I assume hostiles are in red. Maybe they are just playing capture the flag?
So, 3 non-human life forums.
I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but in the UK trailer, you can see what may be a "proto-xenomorph" at 2:06 when a person is being tossed across the screen. Play it frame by frame and you'll notice the extended right arm, clawed hand, and you'll even see a xeno-style dome head with the impression of a skull face.
This could be an optical illusion, but I can't shake it.
Looks like it most likely follows Mohawk as he jumps down, so the changeover could be rapid. The head is either bulbous or elongated. The hair is likewise absent.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 19, 2012, 02:32:20 AMLook close: Shaw has an umbilecal chord attacked to the thing. Seeing as the Jockey accosting her in the hall is human sized, maybe she is its mother, the thing pulled out of her is it as a baby, and it rapidly grows into the adult Engineer?
We may have the sequence backwards. It may be that the temple and ship they discover is in some kind of hibernation - not unlike the egg chamber in the original film - and on awakening somehow appropriates the genetic profile of the crew - not unlike and adult xeno. The humanoids we are seeing could be a
result of the presence of the humans, a mimic if you like, and not the true form of the species at all. It's true form could well be the serpent thing, or as I suspect some kind of nano-technology. The ship 'changes', suggesting that the technology itself is alive somehow. It may use the human crew as a template. The Engineer/Jockey can be whatever it needs to be.
Does anyone know how many space jockey are there, I can only see two
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 19, 2012, 03:04:08 AM
I like this one. So yellow is the team and I assume hostiles are in red. Maybe they are just playing capture the flag?
So, 3 non-human life forums.
I think the red things are the scanners.
I don't trust David. I think he's gonna be the death of them all.
Quote from: r888 on Mar 19, 2012, 03:10:16 AM
Does anyone know how many space jockey are there, I can only see two
Where was the 2nd? I only saw one.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 19, 2012, 03:25:04 AM
Quote from: r888 on Mar 19, 2012, 03:10:16 AM
Does anyone know how many space jockey are there, I can only see two
Where was the 2nd? I only saw one.
sorry I though the one attacking Noomi Rapace character was one
Quote from: Tidus on Mar 18, 2012, 11:51:12 PM
Seems like this hasn't been posted:
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:o Finally something of the xenomorph in the movie!
Why isn't anybody talking about this?!?!?! OBVIOUS Xeno hands! And they're BIG! You can see the double-fingers and the claws and everything!
Until I know what the hell I am looking at, then I'll comment further on it. :P
Where exactly is that image from?
"It's changing," when Noomi looks at the ceiling.
It's the scene when Shaw says "overhead..it's changing" or something to that effect. Left picture you can see very clearly, the hand of an Alien. (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.deviantart.com%2Fdownload%2F180433072%2Falien_hand_by_dendareloaded-d2zfb1s.jpg&hash=73469fa104b3326275b2af58e6660556f79a5194) obviously ^that's just a drawing but you can see it clear as day.
EDIT: As far as I'm concerned, this confirms Xenos to be in the movie for me. And it kills me that this was brought up pages ago and nobody even acknowledged it!
Holy crap--"Hudson may be right..." indeed. Those do look a lot like Alien hands in that mural-thing-whatever, holding something--maybe a planet?
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Ah, much better. Now I can actually get a perspective on the image in question.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 19, 2012, 03:42:35 AM
Holy crap--"Hudson may be right..." indeed. Those do look a lot like Alien hands in that mural-thing-whatever, holding something--maybe a planet?
If that's the case then those are some pretty large Xeno hands. Maybe parts of the temple are organic.
Y'know, I'm the last one who would believe an actual xeno, or even anything close to it would actually make an appearance... But it would be something if that was some kind of a cage or a containment field for something that is let loose. Like those supposed "sentries" that some people are talking about. Maybe it even is the source of the barbed/worm/infections we see in the Prometheus crew.
Yes, VERY large Xeno hands. But now that the word mural got thrown in there, I see that it probably could just be a mural. So that's TWO Xeno murals on the Jockey ship, though. Which means that the ship was built when Xenos were already a prominent factor in...whatever. Interesting
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 19, 2012, 03:46:21 AM
If that's the case then those are some pretty large Xeno hands. Maybe parts of the temple are organic.
I think it's just a mural or painting on the ceiling that starts changing.
Which leads to the question, of what causes the mural to change and how...
i don't see any hands
If I wasn't so lazy I'd get on MS Paint and outline em for ya.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 19, 2012, 03:50:02 AM
i don't see any hands
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Highlighted what I see in red.
So, giant alien thing?
Guess so. Wouldn't it be crazy if those hands actually belonged to a huge Alien that came out sometime in the movie? Doubt it tho.
When do you think that moment with the wall changing will take place in the movie? Reason I ask is because I assume this is when the shit starts to hit the fan.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Mar 19, 2012, 04:16:08 AM
When do you think that moment with the wall changing will take place in the movie? Reason I ask is because I assume this is when the shit starts to hit the fan.
I'd venture it's going to take place probably fairly early on once they get into the structure and start poking about.
Rather than giant creature, I'm leaning more toward the idea that what we're seeing is the iconic derelict biomechanical 'ribbing' taking over. There are shots of similar corridors both with and without the look we're all familiar with, so maybe we're finally going to see how it ends up that way: some sort of nano-biotechnological 'growth', of which the alien hive is a chaotic bastardised version.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 19, 2012, 04:02:45 AM
So, giant alien thing?
Yes I'm also wondering this, is that space jockey hands highlighted in red
Good to see they fixed the colour grade on the international trailer and made that greeny/browny stuff into red for blood
we can assume the same for the blood on the wall in the imax trailer
which means hopefully there will be some gore in this
:)
Quote from: The Necronoir on Mar 19, 2012, 04:38:07 AM
Rather than giant creature, I'm leaning more toward the idea that what we're seeing is the iconic derelict biomechanical 'ribbing' taking over. There are shots of similar corridors both with and without the look we're all familiar with, so maybe we're finally going to see how it ends up that way: some sort of nano-biotechnological 'growth', of which the alien hive is a chaotic bastardised version.
What, like... smart nano armor?
QuoteWhat, like... smart nano armor?
i think biomechanical. instead of it just being an aesthetic for static sets and costumes which of course looked spectacular back in 1979, the technology now exists for the answer to the question "what is biomechanical?" to be far more fully fleshed out in film.
Quote from: deepelemblues on Mar 19, 2012, 04:56:47 AM...the technology now exists for the answer to the question "what is biomechanical?" to be far more fully fleshed out in film.
^ Where does life end and technology begin? Scott and Giger have been asking us this question since 1979.
I'd wager a bet that the Alien-related murals on the wall are Giger's contribution to this film. They'd better be in the Art of the Film book! >:(
I wish someone had asked Ridley yesterday the full extent of Giger's involvement. Now we probably won't know til the book comes out.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 19, 2012, 05:15:01 AMI'd wager a bet that the Alien-related murals on the wall are Giger's contribution to this film.
I've been thinking on this and it doesn't look like a Giger picture to me. It's too, I don't know, 'wavy'. Of course we can't see all of it, but when held up to his other work it looks pretty bland.
Actually, I'd like to know just how much he was involved with the film as well. There are certainly images from the trailer that look Giger-esque. But the sexual imagery doesn't seem as present.
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 19, 2012, 05:22:10 AM
Actually, I'd like to know just how much he was involved with the film as well. There are certainly images from the trailer that look Giger-esque. But the sexual imagery doesn't seem as present.
Unfortunately true. Though I do like the escape pod that Charlize gets into--has a kind of vaginal shape. Though that's likely accidental. I also do like that the corridor that leads to the Jockey room looks like the inside of a whale, though that's more simply bio-imagery than sexual.
:( booooooo at the lack of sexual imagery. I remember in one of the quadrilogy dvds making of documentaries Ridley said something about creating something terrifying that looked like it could possibly f*ck you.
Another thing I like about the new trailers is that they imply most of the action takes place on the ship. Always a lot scarier and more interesting, at least to me.
Those images of Shaw running through the Prometheus with an axe and being cornered by the Engineer harken back to those amazing scenes with Ripley aboard the Nostromo. Let's hope this is just as terrifying as those scenes from Alien.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 19, 2012, 05:18:00 AM
I've been thinking on this and it doesn't look like a Giger picture to me. It's too, I don't know, 'wavy'. Of course we can't see all of it, but when held up to his other work it looks pretty bland.
It looks very much like his sculptural work, which tends to have a very monochrome-metallic looks about it. And it was suggested way back in the production period that murals were precisely what Giger was involved in, so I see no reason to doubt they're his.
Also, the earthy mound/temple structure the giant head is presumably kept inside looks like a cross between the discarded egg silo design from
Alien and the Harkonnen fortress from his work on
Dune.
Quote from: The Necronoir on Mar 19, 2012, 05:41:07 AMIt looks very much like his sculptural work, which tends to have a very monochrome-metallic looks about it.
I wasn't aware of that, cheers.
There's subtle hits of Giger all over the trailers. He may not have played a big part in its making but he's definitley in there. The Space Jockey stuff is all Giger inspired to me.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 19, 2012, 03:10:28 AM
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 19, 2012, 03:04:08 AM
I like this one. So yellow is the team and I assume hostiles are in red. Maybe they are just playing capture the flag?
So, 3 non-human life forums.
I think the red things are the scanners.
Shit you can tell I am tired cause I thought that was the derelict outline. Just a tunnel.
Anyone got an idea on the picture with all the space jockey remains?
Also, I really hope it isn't a xeno. I have grown really attached to the idea that it isn't going to show up in any forum we have seen before. Or even something that looks all that much like it. Faint DNA yes, full on xeno looking creature...been there did that. As Ridley says "He's at disney world now".
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 19, 2012, 05:38:33 AM
Those images of Shaw running through the Prometheus with an axe and being cornered by the Engineer harken back to those amazing scenes with Ripley aboard the Nostromo. Alien.
It reminds me more of the xeno confronting Ripley in the medical room in Alien3.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 19, 2012, 03:42:35 AM
Holy crap--"Hudson may be right..." indeed. Those do look a lot like Alien hands in that mural-thing-whatever, holding something--maybe a planet?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi891.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac115%2Fminarhodes%2Fvlcsnap-2012-03-18-20h39m16s90.png&hash=7b0430c9be599754110b639c4c57e9dc6f97055d)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi891.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac115%2Fminarhodes%2Falienhands.png&hash=fc7485a532117d2523054fc8581970468ce5ab0b)
To me, looks something like this:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mulherbeleza.com.br%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F10%2Fbarriga-gestante-280x280-250x250.jpg&hash=9093e93790ae042295c8e0b58c031f53215c6d52)
:o
That's actually a horrifying thought, Tribal. I like it. Makes it seem that much like something Giger would do. :)
Don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet but in the international trailer at 1:40 you can hear someone say "this thing is.....opened up from the inside." I think that's proof enough that the Aliens, or some version of them, are in the movie. can't wait.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 19, 2012, 05:42:02 AM
Quote from: The Necronoir on Mar 19, 2012, 05:41:07 AMIt looks very much like his sculptural work, which tends to have a very monochrome-metallic looks about it.
I wasn't aware of that, cheers.
Just to elaborate, here's a couple of examples from his recent work.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrgiger.com%2Fimages%2Falu_angel_large.jpg&hash=9b18f45e2ee84cdd9d33f3d05241c0ec61defa6f)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrgiger.com%2Fimages%2Fbiomechanoid_g.jpg&hash=4908f27c1350b0e8c3edaa0f4af6a116806e8a1b)
Quote from: Tribal on Mar 19, 2012, 06:36:10 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 19, 2012, 03:42:35 AM
Holy crap--"Hudson may be right..." indeed. Those do look a lot like Alien hands in that mural-thing-whatever, holding something--maybe a planet?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi891.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac115%2Fminarhodes%2Fvlcsnap-2012-03-18-20h39m16s90.png&hash=7b0430c9be599754110b639c4c57e9dc6f97055d)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi891.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac115%2Fminarhodes%2Falienhands.png&hash=fc7485a532117d2523054fc8581970468ce5ab0b)
To me, looks something like this:
http://www.mulherbeleza.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/barriga-gestante-280x280-250x250.jpg
I think the effect of the torch beam is confusing you here. We're looking at the inside, concave surface of a dome, not a bulbous protrusion like a globe or a belly.
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Mar 19, 2012, 09:23:37 AM
Don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet but in the international trailer at 1:40 you can hear someone say "this thing is.....opened up from the inside." I think that's proof enough that the Aliens, or some version of them, are in the movie. can't wait.
Or they're talking about the space jockey suits we've already seen all over the place.
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Mar 19, 2012, 09:23:37 AM
Don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet but in the international trailer at 1:40 you can hear someone say "this thing is.....opened up from the inside." I think that's proof enough that the Aliens, or some version of them, are in the movie. can't wait.
Well... Shaw's baby is potentially a clue as to "what" could be coming out of things from the inside.
Or it could be the pilots chamber as the thing is coming out of the platform. "Opened up from the inside." Or it could be referring to just about anything that is opened up from within on some kind of sensor.
Many possibilities. It'll be quite interesting. ;D
This is the greatest trailer of all time. I must have watched it 50 times already!
Quote from: Ite on Mar 19, 2012, 09:58:08 AM
This is the greatest trailer of all time. I must have watched it 50 times already!
Word.
Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 18, 2012, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 18, 2012, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
At 1.35ish - mohawk guy says "are these things moving?" and gestures to his own helmet, also looking like he's slightly recoiling from something inside it. Fits with everything else we've seen about him, most obviously the apparently in-helmet explosion of acid/goo.
He's just talking to someone on radio. Asking.
he is asking ''IS THIS THING MOVING''? or something like that cause it seems the ship is starting to move
Quote from: Adorianu on Mar 18, 2012, 03:59:59 PM
Check this:
http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif (http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif)
This thing looks like squid.
It's hard to notice but if you look closely there are surgical marks on her belly in the shape of a inversed T, and that things ombilical cord goes to her stomach. Also i don't think those are tendrils, just a long tail, and the creatures legs,arms jerking around. The head is long and shinny and has some blood on it. For me this is definetely the chestburster. Question is why the hell is is so big,and how come it ended up in her belly.( No i don't believe in the rape scenario)
So far we know there is some monster similar to the chest burster. We seen an image of a belly growing fast like something is inside pushing, and we seen the staples on her belly. Also there is a machine for bringin people to live....Well...Its clear what happens. New Breed of Aliens. :) Riddley can say shit but Im sure there will be an alien and the end of the movie.
Quote from: The Necronoir on Mar 19, 2012, 09:26:50 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 19, 2012, 05:42:02 AM
Quote from: The Necronoir on Mar 19, 2012, 05:41:07 AMIt looks very much like his sculptural work, which tends to have a very monochrome-metallic looks about it.
I wasn't aware of that, cheers.
Just to elaborate, here's a couple of examples from his recent work.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrgiger.com%2Fimages%2Falu_angel_large.jpg&hash=9b18f45e2ee84cdd9d33f3d05241c0ec61defa6f)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrgiger.com%2Fimages%2Fbiomechanoid_g.jpg&hash=4908f27c1350b0e8c3edaa0f4af6a116806e8a1b)
Quote from: Tribal on Mar 19, 2012, 06:36:10 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 19, 2012, 03:42:35 AM
Holy crap--"Hudson may be right..." indeed. Those do look a lot like Alien hands in that mural-thing-whatever, holding something--maybe a planet?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi891.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac115%2Fminarhodes%2Fvlcsnap-2012-03-18-20h39m16s90.png&hash=7b0430c9be599754110b639c4c57e9dc6f97055d)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi891.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac115%2Fminarhodes%2Falienhands.png&hash=fc7485a532117d2523054fc8581970468ce5ab0b)
To me, looks something like this:
http://www.mulherbeleza.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/barriga-gestante-280x280-250x250.jpg
I think the effect of the torch beam is confusing you here. We're looking at the inside, concave surface of a dome, not a bulbous protrusion like a globe or a belly.
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Mar 19, 2012, 09:23:37 AM
Don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet but in the international trailer at 1:40 you can hear someone say "this thing is.....opened up from the inside." I think that's proof enough that the Aliens, or some version of them, are in the movie. can't wait.
Or they're talking about the space jockey suits we've already seen all over the place.
He also created a mike stand for Korns Jon davis too....
Jeremy Jahns' review made me laugh -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L3hKmlMAEU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L3hKmlMAEU#ws)
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Mar 19, 2012, 10:55:13 AM
Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 18, 2012, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 18, 2012, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
At 1.35ish - mohawk guy says "are these things moving?" and gestures to his own helmet, also looking like he's slightly recoiling from something inside it. Fits with everything else we've seen about him, most obviously the apparently in-helmet explosion of acid/goo.
He's just talking to someone on radio. Asking.
he is asking ''IS THIS THING MOVING''? or something like that cause it seems the ship is starting to move
Quote from: Adorianu on Mar 18, 2012, 03:59:59 PM
Check this:
http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif (http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif)
This thing looks like squid.
It's hard to notice but if you look closely there are surgical marks on her belly in the shape of a inversed T, and that things ombilical cord goes to her stomach. Also i don't think those are tendrils, just a long tail, and the creatures legs,arms jerking around. The head is long and shinny and has some blood on it. For me this is definetely the chestburster. Question is why the hell is is so big,and how come it ended up in her belly.( No i don't believe in the rape scenario)
So far we know there is some monster similar to the chest burster. We seen an image of a belly growing fast like something is inside pushing, and we seen the staples on her belly. Also there is a machine for bringin people to live....Well...Its clear what happens. New Breed of Aliens. :) Riddley can say shit but Im sure there will be an alien and the end of the movie.
A Machine that brings people to life???
Wait what.
The promotional machine is in full effect - just how are they going to keep this up till June?
Already there are network radio ads in the UK for the Prometheus trailer on Yahoo!
Crazy - I don't think I've ever heard about a radio ad promoting a trailer in March, for a film released in June!! :laugh:
I made a loop of Fassbender checking out that 'stuff'
https://vimeo.com/38775190 (https://vimeo.com/38775190)
Quote from: nendo on Mar 19, 2012, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Mar 19, 2012, 10:55:13 AM
Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 18, 2012, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 18, 2012, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: red_otter on Mar 18, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
At 1.35ish - mohawk guy says "are these things moving?" and gestures to his own helmet, also looking like he's slightly recoiling from something inside it. Fits with everything else we've seen about him, most obviously the apparently in-helmet explosion of acid/goo.
He's just talking to someone on radio. Asking.
he is asking ''IS THIS THING MOVING''? or something like that cause it seems the ship is starting to move
Quote from: Adorianu on Mar 18, 2012, 03:59:59 PM
Check this:
http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif (http://filesmelt.com/dl/burster.gif)
This thing looks like squid.
It's hard to notice but if you look closely there are surgical marks on her belly in the shape of a inversed T, and that things ombilical cord goes to her stomach. Also i don't think those are tendrils, just a long tail, and the creatures legs,arms jerking around. The head is long and shinny and has some blood on it. For me this is definetely the chestburster. Question is why the hell is is so big,and how come it ended up in her belly.( No i don't believe in the rape scenario)
So far we know there is some monster similar to the chest burster. We seen an image of a belly growing fast like something is inside pushing, and we seen the staples on her belly. Also there is a machine for bringin people to live....Well...Its clear what happens. New Breed of Aliens. :) Riddley can say shit but Im sure there will be an alien and the end of the movie.
A Machine that brings people to life???
Wait what.
I readed it too fast maybe, sorry
SYNAPSE REESTABLISHER
Weyland Industries earns patent number 18,364,003 for Method and Apparatus for device able to temporarily restart brain activity of deceased individuals.
AUGUST 16, 2071
I thought this was very interesting from the Weyland Industries timeline. Probably play a major role in the movie, or maybe a plot twist.
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 18, 2012, 05:49:46 AM
Lots of spectacular imagery in this trailer and it does seem to have a very ominous feel to it with a sense of looming horror. And it all looks lush and beautiful. I would have preferred gritty and "grungy" as Scott described it, but at this point I just want to see the movie and see how everything is approached. Some of the speculation is making me nervous (human like jockeys, mutations, a strong link between humans and the aliens etc.) but at this point that's all it is - speculation.
You know what I would love, if we somehow got a nod to the technology seen in Alien. I don't know how but maybe if there was a scene taking place on another ship or if there's a scene dealing with the company, they could show some of the other technology. In addition to the other nods to Alien, it would help tie things in some more and bridge the styles. I don't know if I'm making much sense here. I'm tired. :P
I just want this to be as amazing as I think it will be.
Things I loved in the full trailer:
- The buildup and sfx in the first 30 seconds.
- I haven't seen any of Noomi Rapace's work before but I'm liking her as an actress based on the footage I've seen of her in Prometheus. I love her very unique look and voice. All in all, a very strong ensemble cast. I was happy to learn that there are no "leads" in this, so to speak. It's truly an ensemble effort where everybody's important.
- That moment where a tear falls down Shaw's cheek as she says, "Overhead, they're changing," is great. It's unnerving almost. And you definitely get a sense of terror and awe at the same time.
- All the stunning new shots.
This needs to be R. This needs to be at least 150 mins long.
*Off Topic* Really bummed there were no PG-13 vs R questions. So many opportunities to have that question come up, but alas...nothing.
Ok, time for me to go to bed and dream of Prometheus.
There was and the responce was "The film is what it is, we shot the film how we wanted blah blah" which is a bullshit term for PG13 rating.
As interesting as I'm finding all this, I can't help but feel that if the film goes the way we all expect, that it takes away from Alien.
The crew of the Prometheus clearly encounter the Space Jockey race in a hostile situation.
All the viral info on Weyland Industries suggests that the Prometheus project is high profile, and therefore when the ship (presumably) doesn't return home, or it's findings aren't publicised, no one would wonder what happened out there?
Even if there is no method (or no one left alive) to report back to Weyland Industries exactly what happened, surely the company, the government, or even the public would question what the hell happened?
Then when you consider Weyland sent their most cutting edge space ship, with a high profile crew armed with the latest technology and advanced weaponry (which the Weyland Company Time Line goes to great lefts to portray) out to explore the unknown, that next time they get a whiff of something similar they simply send a (less advanced that David) Android, unarmed with an unknowing civilian crew with an almost prehistoric ship (compared to Prometheus 30 years earlier!!) to investigate?
I can only guess they'll have to make all evidence destroyed to explain the fact that the next time the human race encounter anything from the film, is the "distress" beacon from Alien.
For the film to make sense, it CAN'T be the same planet, otherwise it just makes the decision to re route the Nostromo alone ridiculous.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42492.0;attach=457;image (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42492.0;attach=457;image)
Those monster hands ...
That guy also has a xeno-like head. It's strange cause in the shots where he jumps he has the helmet (broken), but here it can't be seen. He also has normal hands.
About the alien hands, the walls change to hide them. The substance grows just right on them.
:)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs019.radikal.ru%2Fi629%2F1203%2Ffb%2F98e105a0f893.gif&hash=d66eb1fea3f48701a9be1605a6f5ffde7d8e708e)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs019.radikal.ru%2Fi600%2F1203%2F27%2Fe4466fbff3ee.gif&hash=70be086fe3129606061568778913386b2f1e0e40)
Quote from: Ra3D on Mar 19, 2012, 03:07:45 PM
:)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs019.radikal.ru%2Fi629%2F1203%2Ffb%2F98e105a0f893.gif&hash=d66eb1fea3f48701a9be1605a6f5ffde7d8e708e)
http://s019.radikal.ru/i600/1203/27/e4466fbff3ee.gif
don't see any pics.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4put.ru%2Fpictures%2Fmax%2F285%2F876765.gif&hash=4d6fb5eb146f208fb9e0592ee048d0e0d3dd6b8e)
Check out the ALIEN on the wall in the latest Tailer...
http://pcrehabva.com/earl.html (http://pcrehabva.com/earl.html)
Quote from: Vemados on Mar 19, 2012, 03:36:16 AM
It's the scene when Shaw says "overhead..it's changing" or something to that effect. Left picture you can see very clearly, the hand of an Alien. (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.deviantart.com%2Fdownload%2F180433072%2Falien_hand_by_dendareloaded-d2zfb1s.jpg&hash=73469fa104b3326275b2af58e6660556f79a5194) obviously ^that's just a drawing but you can see it clear as day.
EDIT: As far as I'm concerned, this confirms Xenos to be in the movie for me. And it kills me that this was brought up pages ago and nobody even acknowledged it!
bitch plz, that's my drawing, i'm srsly serious http://dendareloaded.deviantart.com/ (http://dendareloaded.deviantart.com/)
Never se en this decription, is in the oficial Youtube page
In the distant future, two superpowers control Earth and fight each other for all the solar system's natural resources. When one side dispatches a team to a distant planet to terraform it for human colonization, the team discovers an indigenous race of bio-mechanoid killers. Ridley Scott, director of 'Alien' and 'Blade Runner,' returns to the genre he helped define. With PROMETHEUS, he creates a groundbreaking mythology, in which a team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth, leading them on a thrilling journey to the darkest corners of the universe. There, they must fight a terrifying battle to save the future of the human race.
Quote from: Ra3D on Mar 19, 2012, 03:16:40 PM
http://4put.ru/pictures/max/285/876765.gif
That's the man. The real deal.
Quote from: Ra3D on Mar 19, 2012, 03:16:40 PM
http://4put.ru/pictures/max/285/876765.gif
the same green shimmer, like in this:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F27.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m142slbsTA1qmxvs0o7_500.jpg&hash=5a84b41c909df009dac2cb226482016d2d3dc67b)
Great gif that makes it slightly clearer to see the ruptured sarcophagi.
dafuq happened here?
https://p.twimg.com/AoTBPNtCEAA5DIu.jpg:large not mine but i noticed it and searched for google, because id don't know how to post pics that are not on the inet but on your pc without using attachment
Very simple. They flipped the model is all. They probably had it facing the wrong way in continuity and changed it. :)
Two ships ?
(https://p.twimg.com/AoTBPNtCEAA5DIu.jpg:large)
TWO SHIPS !
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 04:38:28 PM
Two ships ?
https://p.twimg.com/AoTBPNtCEAA5DIu.jpg:large
TWO SHIPS !
they are just shot from a different angle.
look at the three entrances in the middle.
PS: remember we see the ship "circling" on the ground when it was in this position. we are probably going to see it turn around 180°
so one shot would be at the beginnigng of the sequence and the other one at the end
The appendages are different.
Otherwise it's the same shot. Same angle and all. Perhaps one was refined in post production.
Yeah but one of the "horns" (Right in first pic, Left in second) don't looks the same. No ?
Or they have changed the model a little bit in Post-prod between the two trailers.
those guurls noticed that the ship was wrong way around lol....but they also changed the model, notice the 3 entrances are more at the bottom on the new version, and the new derelict is darker and more metallic... looks less biological
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 04:46:52 PM
Yeah but one of the "horns" (Left in first pic, Right in second) don't look the same. No ?
Or they have changed the model a little bit in Post-prod between the two trailers.
they switched sides, look at the antennae (the derelict has a "mallet"like ending, the other one is with antenna)
they realised it was wrong way, they made no major changing, just switched it, but at the end of the new trailer yoü see the antennae ending hitting the ground, but on the new pics (posted above) you see that it is leaning to the side with the mallet ending
Did you guys see the TV spot that was shown during the season finale of The Walking Dead?
^ New footages ?
i illsutrated the current probelm very well <3 <3 <3 in the trailer they changed the side the derelict is rolling several times, in the first, old trailer, we see the antaennae ending right as the ship is rolling the right, but still we see vickers and stuff running away from the mallet side as it falls onto them. in the new uk trailer they switched sides dafuq
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suggestions?
I'm going to... Wait until later before wading through forty pages of this... :)
First impressions are that I wish they hadn't darkened it, though. The original footage was more full of detail. Ever since 'Underworld', directors have made a big push for darkening epic movies, but they forget to do it in a way which highlights certain things at the same time.
Allso shaws belly area dosnt have staples like in another pic of it? anyone else see that?
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 19, 2012, 02:24:19 AM
Screenshots from the 1080P UK trailer, which oddly enough seems to have the proper color timing and finished (or "more finished") visual effects than the US (and, as someone else pointed out, also features un-color corrected blood):
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If the UK gets a blood-soaked PROMETHEUS and we in the US get some sanitizied, "black" blood bullshrim, I will be one unhappy cinemagoer >:(
Can't wait thats all I can say.... :P
Quote from: Hudson4788 on Mar 19, 2012, 02:28:31 PM
As interesting as I'm finding all this, I can't help but feel that if the film goes the way we all expect, that it takes away from Alien.
The crew of the Prometheus clearly encounter the Space Jockey race in a hostile situation.
All the viral info on Weyland Industries suggests that the Prometheus project is high profile, and therefore when the ship (presumably) doesn't return home, or it's findings aren't publicised, no one would wonder what happened out there?
Even if there is no method (or no one left alive) to report back to Weyland Industries exactly what happened, surely the company, the government, or even the public would question what the hell happened?
Then when you consider Weyland sent their most cutting edge space ship, with a high profile crew armed with the latest technology and advanced weaponry (which the Weyland Company Time Line goes to great lefts to portray) out to explore the unknown, that next time they get a whiff of something similar they simply send a (less advanced that David) Android, unarmed with an unknowing civilian crew with an almost prehistoric ship (compared to Prometheus 30 years earlier!!) to investigate?
I can only guess they'll have to make all evidence destroyed to explain the fact that the next time the human race encounter anything from the film, is the "distress" beacon from Alien.
For the film to make sense, it CAN'T be the same planet, otherwise it just makes the decision to re route the Nostromo alone ridiculous.
Really???
I figured they had sent an expensive crew and ship in prometheus and it ends up costing the company a f**kload of cash....... So in alien they just reroute a mining crew of nobody's to try and save money :) that ends up costing a hell of alot more than they bargained for...... So in aliens they think f**k it, lets just build a colony and save on these expensive trips :)
i just think they picked the cute little nostromo because they saw what an armed crew could do. the government (hokaaaahs) didn't want their crew to kill, so they chose a crew without weapons, that couldn't harm, but bring the alien alive to earth, because the prometheus kicked the jockeyship really hard...
and stop complaining: a movie from 1979 can't look more advanced than a movie from 2012, of course in ALIEN they had those old pcs and shit, ignore this and try to make Prometheus as "logical" as possible, because Scott has the tech and the money for that, which isn't a bad thing if yoü correct those little details...
International trailer available for 1080 HD quicktime download over here:
http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/2012/03/prometheus-international-trailer-in-full-1080p-quicktime-format-now-available-for-download/ (http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/2012/03/prometheus-international-trailer-in-full-1080p-quicktime-format-now-available-for-download/)
Im sorry buts its funny in alot of ways
Alien looks GODDAM amazing on blueray , to the point of the movie having 0 visual flaws ( in my oppinion ) , ppl complain about ridiculous things lol
My fave complaint ever is the reaction from a starwars "fan" over george lucas putting a dug in jabbas palace on rotj and making the ewoks blink........." george lucas continues to rape my childhood "
Enough said :)
To those that are confused by the red blood / black blood differences::::
Here's how it works with movie trailers:
in the USA we are required by the MPAA to censor violence shown in trailers to an approximately "PG" level. This is so they can fit under the "The following preview is approved for all audiences" banner and be shown on movies with virtually any rating (i.e. a preview for an R rated movie can then be shown at the beginning of a PG rated movie).
For a movie like this it is very common for the trailer producers to flag certain shots with blood or violence (or guns) to be digitally altered or painted out all together.
it is too expensive and time consuming to remove all blood so often times if it is not all over a person and instead on the environment or clothes it is just turned black or brown by selecting just the red color and making a correction. This is called "blood to mud" as a type of shorthand.
Concerning shots of Noomi in the medical bay operating table, and stumbling down the hallway, we are seeing black or darkened blood because Fox is ordering an MPAA fix to comply with MPAA's wishes to censor the violence down to an appropriate level.
International trailers that are to be shown in most european markets do not usually have these fixes due to their different censorship standards for their movie trailers. Generally you will find more blood that is also its original red blood color in the int'l trailer versions.
Quote from: Gazz on Mar 19, 2012, 07:17:23 PM
International trailer available for 1080 HD quicktime download over here:
http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/2012/03/prometheus-international-trailer-in-full-1080p-quicktime-format-now-available-for-download/ (http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/2012/03/prometheus-international-trailer-in-full-1080p-quicktime-format-now-available-for-download/)
Thx Gazz but do you know where I can grab the 720p version of the Intl. Trailer.
Gif of two new Lifeforms on Prometheus ;)
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Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 07:33:40 PM
Quote from: Gazz on Mar 19, 2012, 07:17:23 PM
International trailer available for 1080 HD quicktime download over here:
http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/2012/03/prometheus-international-trailer-in-full-1080p-quicktime-format-now-available-for-download/ (http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/2012/03/prometheus-international-trailer-in-full-1080p-quicktime-format-now-available-for-download/)
Thx Gazz but do you know where I can grab the 720p version of the Intl. Trailer.
No idea mate. Just had this one pop up on my twitter feed.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 07:33:40 PM
Thx Gazz but do you know where I can grab the 720p version of the Intl. Trailer.
This link should allow you to download the UK int. trailer in any resolution you like, including 720p MP4 format
http://www.saveyoutube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk (http://www.saveyoutube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk)
It might ask you to verify before getting to the download options ;)
Edit - perhaps not the exact same quality as the quicktime version, if that's what you are after
Hey guys, have you ever seen the movie "RUINS"? It has similar snake-type-creatures which go inside humans like in prometheus. Its so similar...
Thx Eva ;) but I have the YouTube 720p encode. I want the mov. file.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 07:44:33 PM
Thx Eva ;) but I have the YouTube 720p encode. I want the mov. file.
If this is the original 1080p file that got uploaded to youtube then there is no "original" 720p version besides the downscaled-per-youtube one you already have.
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 19, 2012, 07:50:40 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 07:44:33 PM
Thx Eva ;) but I have the YouTube 720p encode. I want the mov. file.
If this is the original 1080p file that got uploaded to youtube then there is no "original" 720p version besides the downscaled-per-youtube one you already have.
The 1080 download link I posted isn't the youtube quality version. It's much higher quality but is still a little darker than the American trailer.
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 19, 2012, 07:50:40 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 07:44:33 PM
Thx Eva ;) but I have the YouTube 720p encode. I want the mov. file.
If this is the original 1080p file that got uploaded to youtube then there is no "original" 720p version besides the downscaled-per-youtube one you already have.
True. I'm just looking for an official 720p encode (Yahoo or Apple) of the Intl. Trailer.
The 1080p encode Gazz has just posted is far better and can be an official encode in mov.
Just finished watching the 1080p MOV file. It looks better--slightly. Parts of it have really heavy artifacing. Not sure it's the "original" file or not, but the difference in quality between the 1080p Youtube mp4 and this mov file are marginal at best, and hardly worth about 700 extra megabytes :-\
The location in Scotland at the start of the trailer is on the Trotternish Ridge on the Isle of Skye. Did the walk a few years ago - fantastic and very eerie! - excellent choice of location with its rocky towers, big sea cliffs and golden eagles wheeling overhead........http://www.gofurtherscotland.co.uk/walking/skyewalking.html... (http://www.gofurtherscotland.co.uk/walking/skyewalking.html...)
Edit: NVM
Quote from: ikarop on Mar 19, 2012, 08:26:20 PM
I haven't watched the trailer (none of them) but apparently this has new footage? Can someone confirm?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU3cQTP047Q#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU3cQTP047Q#ws)
Nope. It's the IMAX trailer I'm sure.
Quote from: ikarop on Mar 19, 2012, 08:26:20 PM
I haven't watched the trailer (none of them) but apparently this has new footage? Can someone confirm?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU3cQTP047Q#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU3cQTP047Q#ws)
Noooope. That's the leaked IMAX viral teaser. And that definitely wasn't shown at WonderCon.
Also, you should watch the trailers. Dooooooo it :P You know you want to...
Thanks for the confirmation! And I won't.... I shouldn't... :'(
Quote from: ikarop on Mar 19, 2012, 08:32:10 PM
Thanks for the confirmation! And I won't.... I shouldn't... :'(
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You can't stay pure forever! ;D
Quote from: GusGavorskis on Mar 19, 2012, 07:43:11 PM
Hey guys, have you ever seen the movie "RUINS"? It has similar snake-type-creatures which go inside humans like in prometheus. Its so similar...
The Ruins had creeping plant life as the monster
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 07:44:33 PM
Thx Eva ;) but I have the YouTube 720p encode. I want the mov. file.
Yeah, I figured it was a quality issue more than a resolution compability issue 10 secs after posting lol. I'm not exactly the most technically apt person in the world, to put it mildly... :)
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Mar 19, 2012, 08:40:54 PM
The Ruins had creeping plant life as the monster
...and The Happening had plant spores hahaha :D
Oh, be sweet to Ikarop - he's really struggling I think
Quote from: Eva on Mar 19, 2012, 08:53:26 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 07:44:33 PM
Thx Eva ;) but I have the YouTube 720p encode. I want the mov. file.
Yeah, I figured it was a quality issue more than a resolution compability issue 10 secs after posting lol. I'm not exactly the most technically apt person in the world, to put it mildly... :)
;) No problem, me too.
Dear All, The idea of a face may have come, (either consciously or subconsciously to the writers) from a Jack Vance short story initially published in a collection called (appropriately enough) 'The Dying Earth' I read it a long time ago (not going to tell you how old I am). However, I recommend his books, if you're interested, and I found this summary of the story I recalled from so long ago...
Hi Sf Fans,
this is probably more "fantasy" than s-f, but I have a memory of
a
story with some sort of huge supernatural being whose face is
stuck in a wall(I think a cave wall)--the idea being if he can
come all the way through, we're in huge trouble. Somehow (small
SPOILER) the protagonist manages to banish him through the OTHER
side of the wall. Ring any bells?
Sounds like the last story collected in THE DYING EARTH
by Jack Vance.
Yep, "Guyal of Sfere".
That's the title of Jack Vance's story, but I'm inclined to doubt
that
it's the story the OP is looking for. SPOILERS AHEAD. Yes, the
demon-
lord Blikdak appears as a huge face in the wall: "A great face
looked
from the wall, a face taller than Guyal, as tall as Guyal might
reach
with hands on high. The chin rested on the floor, the scalp slanted
back into the panel." But it was not a *cave* wall, it was the wall
of
a building, the Museum of Man. And the OP would surely have
remembered
that the demon was destroyed by one of the silliest methods ever,
namely, they unravel the demon by pulling a loose thread, until:
". . . sixty shining bobbins lay stacked neat; the evil so
disorganized glowed with purity and iridescence." Nothing about "the
other side of the wall."
That quote is from the original _Dying Earth_ version of the story.
In the 1969 revision:
"Sixty bobbins, seventy bobbins: Blikdak was no more. The breach in
the wall gave on barren rock, unbroken and rigid. And in the
Mechanismus seventy shining bobbins lay stacked."
Hi, guys! Long time reader, first time poster.
I have really enjoyed your theories and analysis of the trailers so far, but there is one thing that I don't quite understand. When the teaser for the trailer(the 0.22 second one) was first released there was the shot of the mutant throwing the guy in the garage in the RTO.The same shot is in the international trailer. The mutant seemed much more mutated than the mohawk mutant jumping of the RTO. There was talk as to wheter this is after he jumps down and throws the guy, but he is so much more mutated, his hands are huuuge, his head huge, also the body is big. It seems like a proto xeno in the far stages of mutation. BUT, in the imax trailer(1.13) the shot is different. Now that I've seen in it in 720p the guy looks much more like the mohawk mutant?????? How can this be? His arms seem to be smaller and the suit is different. Also the shot reveals a bit more in terms of the gas pipe.
SO my questions are: 1. Do you think that the scene where the mohawk mutant jumps down is in aboslute conncetion to the scene, where he throws the guy in the RTO(this being the next scene)? 2. WHy the hell are the shots differrent in the imax trailer to those in the other trailers(i mean seriosly, check it out, it is not the same creature!). YOu guys are good at this, if someone finds a 108p proper version of the imax trailer our doubts willl be anwsered. Thanks ;)
E.nygma,
I noticed the same thing on Saturday night when the imax trailer came out but figured someone else would post. We know it's the mohawk the guy, the question is just how much or in what way he is affected/augmented. I still feel like he doesn't have an enlogated head. He is distorted in some way but I think the extreme motion blur is also masking his true appearance so much that people on this forum are seeing things that aren't there.
In the imax trailer version, they are clearly using either an earlier version of visual effect or an alternate take of the plate footage used in the stunt. Either way there is a visual effect going on here with wire/rig removal so neither version is an untouched original etc.
REGARDING THE SERPENT CREATURE:
Going back to the serpent creature we see slithering into the sleeve of one of the crew I think it's tail looks a lot like this older geiger painting. Its body will look A LOT like this but without the obvious "ALIEN" head and mouth:
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I wouldn't be suprised if some of the trailer shots are deliberately edited to not give away too much or misslead us.
I know this an odd set of scenes to be looking at in details - but has anyone else examined the dress and faces of the people during the briefing on the ancient findings?
A few things stand out for me...
Most people are wearing Weyland khaki clothes with embroidered Weyland logo + name tag.
A few are not and are dressed in civillian looking clothes.
The person of interest for me is Fifield.
Fifield is in civillian looking clothes... except for the fact he has a few embroidered pieces of worthy mention:
A zig zag piece where most have a name, a flag looking logotype that is reminiscent of the Japanese naval or imperial military flag.
The final piece is what looks like a sectioned planet with a red dot. His clothes appear to have leaves etc printed all over.
Perhaps he is a Yutani space botanist or some such? May be the beginnings of their joint ventures, some kind of bargain struck between the two corporations in Weyland Industries best interests?
All the Trailers are giving us nothing about the chronology of events in the film. Which is a good point.
I posted about this yesterday but my MS Paint skills have since improved. Or rather, I found Paintbrush for Mac.
This is where I see mini-xeno teeth:
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It may be nothing but I definitely see it so thought I'd share it. I know it's just one frame (although the others around it suggest "lip" parts opening/retracting around the teeth before dissolving into jumpy black mulch) but I'd find it an oddly coincidental CGI design if it's not meant to echo the xeno.
The point being, perhaps this nanotech (as I suspect it is) has strong proto-xeno qualities.
Quote from: GusGavorskis on Mar 19, 2012, 07:43:11 PM
Hey guys, have you ever seen the movie "RUINS"? It has similar snake-type-creatures which go inside humans like in prometheus. Its so similar...
There's tons of movies, books and comics with little slugs entering (and changing) the host.
Remember the black oil from X-Files?
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And Slither?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP-Q0O-z1bs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP-Q0O-z1bs#ws)
:P
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 19, 2012, 11:16:48 PM
I know this an odd set of scenes to be looking at in details - but has anyone else examined the dress and faces of the people during the briefing on the ancient findings?
A few things stand out for me...
Most people are wearing Weyland khaki clothes with embroidered Weyland logo + name tag.
A few are not and are dressed in civillian looking clothes.
The person of interest for me is Fifield.
Fifield is in civillian looking clothes... except for the fact he has a few embroidered pieces of worthy mention:
A zig zag piece where most have a name, a flag looking logotype that is reminiscent of the Japanese naval or imperial military flag.
The final piece is what looks like a sectioned planet with a red dot. His clothes appear to have leaves etc printed all over.
Perhaps he is a Yutani space botanist or some such? May be the beginnings of their joint ventures, some kind of bargain struck between the two corporations in Weyland Industries best interests?
Hmm...interesting thought. He certainly seems to be the black sheep in the clips we've seen, the one complaining, questioning, getting p!ssed off and, ultimately, getting into serious trouble (although it seems most of them do!) It would certainly be an obvious thing for the script to explore, i.e. the dynamic that brought Weyland-Yutani together, perhaps not in altogether friendly circumstances.
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 19, 2012, 11:16:48 PM
The person of interest for me is Fifield.
Fifield is in civillian looking clothes... except for the fact he has a few embroidered pieces of worthy mention:
A zig zag piece where most have a name, a flag looking logotype that is reminiscent of the Japanese naval or imperial military flag.
The final piece is what looks like a sectioned planet with a red dot. His clothes appear to have leaves etc printed all over.
Perhaps he is a Yutani space botanist or some such? May be the beginnings of their joint ventures, some kind of bargain struck between the two corporations in Weyland Industries best interests?
Just a pic to illustrate your post ;D
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I think he's a Merch.
Quote from: Tribal on Mar 19, 2012, 11:45:23 PM
...
Thanks ;)
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 11:46:47 PM
I think he's a Merch.
Possibly I guess, but I dunno with the kinda non-tough/paniced way he acts with the whole "Moving? Are these things moving!?"
But I guess that shit would be worrying even for a merc.
Theres just something about that sun crest embroidered on his shirt....
EMPIRE Trailer Ananlysis. Interesting
http://www.empireonline.com/features/prometheus-trailer-breakdown-2/p1 (http://www.empireonline.com/features/prometheus-trailer-breakdown-2/p1)
About this shot. They say this: "As we see a cave painting in which a humanoid figure is pointing at what may be stars, Shaw has a Eureka! moment. "I think they want us to come and find them," says Shaw. Maybe... or is this another version of the rescue beacon from Alien that actually turned out to be a warning to stay away?"
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Thats is an interesting thought.... "Stay away from these stars my children, that shit will f*ck you up!" :laugh:
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 20, 2012, 12:07:08 AM
EMPIRE Trailer Ananlysis. Interesting
http://www.empireonline.com/features/prometheus-trailer-breakdown-2/p1 (http://www.empireonline.com/features/prometheus-trailer-breakdown-2/p1)
About this shot. They say this: "As we see a cave painting in which a humanoid figure is pointing at what may be stars, Shaw has a Eureka! moment. "I think they want us to come and find them," says Shaw. Maybe... or is this another version of the rescue beacon from Alien that actually turned out to be a warning to stay away?"
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I think of the symbols as representing a challenge. The
Prometheus myth is at its core about challenging the gods. Why the 'Engineers' would set such a challenge is part of the great mystery that I am dying to have answered come June.
You're right but I can't get out of my mind the idea that all of this is a trap.
Maybe there directions to the nearest bathroom?
The black figure on the paint is far bigger than the human figures on the bottom left.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 20, 2012, 12:55:39 AM
The black figure on the paint is far bigger than the human figures on the bottom left.
Quite intersting is that such depiction of "gods" are common on many ancient paintings and reliefs...such as sumerian clay tablets..
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Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 20, 2012, 12:33:01 AM
I think of the symbols as representing a challenge. The Prometheus myth is at its core about challenging the gods. Why the 'Engineers' would set such a challenge is part of the great mystery that I am dying to have answered come June.
Alternative take on the Prometheus take is not about challenging the Gods. It's more like a wager between Gods about the future of mankind. One group of Gods have more faith in humanity and if you nurture humanity enough, something extraordinary would evolve (science, arts, social progress). The more pessimistic Gods regard humans as higher animals that need to be controlled, managed, lorded over.
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Mar 20, 2012, 01:05:52 AM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 20, 2012, 12:55:39 AM
The black figure on the paint is far bigger than the human figures on the bottom left.
Quite intersting is that such depiction of "gods" are common on many ancient paintings and reliefs...such as sumerian clay tablets..
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lDGDibozyZ0/Taea2sc_cTI/AAAAAAAABVg/wRB1DyvLua0/s640/anunnaki_sumeria_1.jpg
I know. It was just regarding the Jockey size compared to humans.
TV SPOT
http://latino-review.com/2012/03/19/tv-spot-prometheus/ (http://latino-review.com/2012/03/19/tv-spot-prometheus/)
and new pic?
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notice the mechanical part at the elbow. this means all the suits have that, and the snake thing could crawl in any of the crew, not necesarily in WEILAND like it was speculated
Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 20, 2012, 01:23:27 AM
TV SPOT
http://latino-review.com/2012/03/19/tv-spot-prometheus/ (http://latino-review.com/2012/03/19/tv-spot-prometheus/)
There's a couple new shots in there! Awesome! Now we just need an actual vid that isn't a cam recording :P
Yep, looks like there's a quick shot of two of our mystery crew members at the controls.
quote me....
01. the jockeys all died long ago at the hands of thier creations ( parasitic organisms ) who control thier former masters
02. the sjs were in the proccess of launching a full scale attack onto earth , ending the experiment ( but one of them unleashes the parasites onto his own race saving us )( the same one who secretly gave us fire )
03. david develops a deep obsession with the ''gods'' , spending to much time in the sj chair, playing with 'fire' , ends up mutating into a android biomech sj who decides to complete the sjs mission to destroy earth :)
just some highly speculative ideas .......... :)
I would be pretty dissapointed if we will see no original engineer ...
Maybe some of the crewmenbers will be chosen as a new god ... or decides hismself to mutate..
Ithink we will........but in flashback :)
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Mar 20, 2012, 01:05:52 AM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 20, 2012, 12:55:39 AM
The black figure on the paint is far bigger than the human figures on the bottom left.
Quite intersting is that such depiction of "gods" are common on many ancient paintings and reliefs...such as sumerian clay tablets..
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lDGDibozyZ0/Taea2sc_cTI/AAAAAAAABVg/wRB1DyvLua0/s640/anunnaki_sumeria_1.jpg
I thought i heard somewhere that some of the myan depictions of giants could have been partly true. the tallest person was almost 10' tall there most likely has probably been several people that tall or even taller in human history, I if therwe was a giant person back than he may have been worshiped as a god.
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 20, 2012, 02:19:06 AM
quote me....
01. the jockeys all died long ago at the hands of thier creations ( parasitic organisms ) who control thier former masters
02. the sjs were in the proccess of launching a full scale attack onto earth , ending the experiment ( but one of them unleashes the parasites onto his own race saving us )( the same one who secretly gave us fire )
03. david develops a deep obsession with the ''gods'' , spending to much time in the sj chair, playing with 'fire' , ends up mutating into a android biomech sj who decides to complete the sjs mission to destroy earth :)
just some highly speculative ideas .......... :)
God, i hope not!
A movie with this script would be a little boring and too much predictable :P
I want a very dense and complex story, full of surprises and revelations ;)
Quote from: Tribal on Mar 20, 2012, 05:12:35 AM
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 20, 2012, 02:19:06 AM
quote me....
01. the jockeys all died long ago at the hands of thier creations ( parasitic organisms ) who control thier former masters
02. the sjs were in the proccess of launching a full scale attack onto earth , ending the experiment ( but one of them unleashes the parasites onto his own race saving us )( the same one who secretly gave us fire )
03. david develops a deep obsession with the ''gods'' , spending to much time in the sj chair, playing with 'fire' , ends up mutating into a android biomech sj who decides to complete the sjs mission to destroy earth :)
just some highly speculative ideas .......... :)
Script?
Nah sorry i was just pointing out a possible 5 mins of the movie , im sure you will get the mind expanding experience your hoping for lol , hyped much??
These are the new shots featured in the TV spot:
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The old man DEFINITELY looks like Guy Pearce.
Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 20, 2012, 01:23:27 AM
and new pic?
http://i.imgur.com/lWL0S.jpg
Yep, here comes the not so much bigger version!
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Specifically looking at the international trailer.There are 14 crew members accounted for.The one that looks like guy pierce is only in that one scene.That makes 15 total crew members
I think the trailers have shown too much of the story. :'( I'll have to kick myself in the nuts and stop visiting P forum.
Quote from: Space Voyager on Mar 20, 2012, 07:03:26 AM
I think the trailers have shown too much of the story. :'( I'll have to kick myself in the nuts and stop visiting P forum.
Then tell us, please, what's the story? :)
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That's Guy alright! :)
Welll
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^^Yeah. We can clearly see him here. Those merchs could be his "personal guards". It seems that someone behind him is touching his shoulder. Asking to move ? No.
Quote from: Ra3D on Mar 20, 2012, 08:43:01 AM
Welll
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If this does turn out to be the Derelict in ALIEN, I'm gonna be pretty annoyed with all the little design inconsistencies, like the lack of the second row of ovoids over the vagina doors, the vagina doors no longer being, well,
vaginal, and the interior walls and Jockey platform being completely different. If this is indeed our infamous Derelict, I really hope they at least slap some more ovoids on the hull :-\
"A king has his reign and then he dies. Its inevetable."
What do you think about that line?
King=one of the ancient human race. He created life on Earth when he was about to die, left a pyramid on another planet, left an invitation to their childs to find the pyramid that in this case a "trap" and the King needs only hosts to ressurect him/his race so he can go back to Earth to rule it again. And he does it over and over again.
hm? ;D
What if the ship's exterior was sort of a living thing as well ??
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 20, 2012, 09:57:26 AM
"A king has his reign and then he dies. Its inevetable."
What do you think about that line?
Pretty sure it relates to the philosophical/religious motifs brought up in Prometheus.
Peter Weyland declares that 'we are the Gods now', essentially ending Gods reign on Earth from his own perspective. Of course, the engineers as it turns out, might have a thing or two to say about that...
At the Q&A, Ridley and Damon underlined how Prometheus would ask questions along these lines without giving any definitive answers to them.
Nice catch with the Guy Pearce still - that's really him! :)
I wondered if the line about the Kings, may be a slight red herring in the way it's used in the trailer.
It's Vickers that says it right? Isn't she a Weyland Suit?
Could it be that she is referring to Weyland's reign as CEO of the company. Weyland is determined to be part of the mission and the timeline clearly indicates that he harbours ambitions to cheat death/ create life (possibly his own).
Vickers herself may hold ambitions with the corporation and believes that Weyland's time will come eventually.
Obviously the line has greater symbolic resonance thematically, but it could just be that this line happens in a scene where other crew members (maybe Janek) are discussing Weyland and his presence on the mission.
I think he wants to cheat death. It's the ultimate challenge for a man like him.
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 20, 2012, 09:57:26 AM
"A king has his reign and then he dies. Its inevetable."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvxbZTP6-ak# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvxbZTP6-ak#)
New screencap of the mutant. We can see a bit more of his face. Looks sick.
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Captain Janek: "Kill everything(!!!)! Do you copy me?!"
Sooooo...not that thing but everything :P there is more than 1 creature.
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 20, 2012, 04:20:35 PM
Captain Janek: "Kill everything(!!!)! Do you copy me?!"
Sooooo...not that thing but everything :P there is more than 1 creature.
yeah, it seems like perhaps she is saying this to the crew of intrepid explorers inside the Derelict? Once everyone starts freaking out and those micro-organisms start springing to life out of their "urns" (or ampules)? I am wondering who gave the all-clear for them to take their helmets off inside an alien dig? (who knew what molds or funguses were present inside that moldy, old stuff)? ---DAVID?!!!
It sounds like they got a phrase of him saying "... Kill...", cut that to be next to where he says "...everything!" and then put that next to "Do you copy me?" I bet he never says them all together like that in the actual movie.
Quote from: Ra3D on Mar 19, 2012, 03:16:40 PM
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I´m not a fan of all those theories that someone of the crew will mutate to the space jockey ... but the face of mr. blue looks very similar to michael fassbender... what do you think? can somebody make a comparison?
I would say he/it looks more like shaw.....check the bit where she does the fist thing in the trailer...? im not saying it is shaw, but maybe she gives birth to it?
Saw this trailer as a Youtube ad. Happy to see it getting more and more hopeful recognition. :)
Quote from: PredAlienFreak on Mar 20, 2012, 09:00:59 PM
Quote from: Ra3D on Mar 19, 2012, 03:16:40 PM
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I´m not a fan of all those theories that someone of the crew will mutate to the space jockey ... but the face of mr. blue looks very similar to michael fassbender... what do you think? can somebody make a comparison?
Frankly I think he looks more like Mr.X
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;D
I really don't see a resemblance. I honestly think that the only thing he resembles is the giant head. Thematically that all ties together.
Yes, maybe .... just thought about what david said in the trailer ....
I think the giant head is the brain of the ship or something... a being that will wake up in the movie (some actors said that there will be a giant head piloting a space ship) ...
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 20, 2012, 04:20:35 PM
Captain Janek: "Kill everything(!!!)! Do you copy me?!"
Sooooo...not that thing but everything :P there is more than 1 creature.
Yea, for real, kill everything? You invade someone else's home world on a wild assumption and then proclaim kill everything. Well shit if I was the space jockey I'd fly to earth and blow it up too.
:P
Anyone else notice the ship has been flipped around in the latest trailers? not plot related just interesting
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Quote from: nendo on Mar 20, 2012, 10:44:06 PM
Anyone else notice the ship has been flipped around in the latest trailers? not plot related just interesting
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Do you think the ship spins - or whether there's a 360 shot from above? The earth around does look the same tho :s
Quote from: PredAlienFreak on Mar 20, 2012, 09:00:59 PM
Quote from: Ra3D on Mar 19, 2012, 03:16:40 PM
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I´m not a fan of all those theories that someone of the crew will mutate to the space jockey ... but the face of mr. blue looks very similar to michael fassbender... what do you think? can somebody make a comparison?
I think he is Shaw's lover the another archeologist who is played by Logan Marshall Green and maybe this is why he will rape Shaw after the mutation...some human instinct will combine with alien instinct....well IF there is a rape scene after all ;D
Another thing:
look at this pic...you clearly can see the egg chambers in the ship. What if after the crash wich caused by Janek the pilot in the derelict will attacked somehow by a facehugger while he is connected to the chair and this how we get a bigger alien creature wich will chase the left of the crew around the derelict and around the base....and yeah i still got the feeling that this is the same alien ship as in alien was :)
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Well if this is the case ...then...everyone has to die out there :P....ummm well i have to say anyway has to because prometheus, the only ship will blow up
+++ about guy pearce's character weyland ...what the hell is he doing there?? In the TED viral marketing video he says the year is 2023...and prometheus takes place in...well i dont remember at the end of the 21st century if im right...so at least he is 100 yrs old fart is he?
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 20, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
I´m not a fan of all those theories that someone of the crew will mutate to the space jockey ... but the face of mr. blue looks very similar to michael fassbender... what do you think? can somebody make a comparison?
If anybody was going to "become" the Jockey i'd have to believe it would be Weyland. But I don't. Because it's silly, and no evidence exists for that sort of thing.
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 20, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
I think he is Shaw's lover the another archeologist who is played by Logan Marshall Green and maybe this is why he will rape Shaw after the mutation...some human instinct will combine with alien instinct....well IF there is a rape scene after all ;D
I .. Don't think so. And honestly there's no indication that Shaw will be raped by Green's character. Sure, it's possible, but it's also entirely possible that the two have a moment of intimacy in the wake of the horrible things they experienced.
Such a scene was actually excised from Alien between Dallas and Ripley. They were to be interupted by Kane's corpse floating past a window.
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 20, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
Another thing:
look at this pic...you clearly can see the egg chambers in the ship.
No... We can see a hologram of the exterior and a rough look at the interior of the ship. If anything this shows us that the egg chamber was underground in the Alien Derelict. (The center pod area of the derelict is filled by the Pilots chamber in that hologram.
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 20, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
What if after the crash wich caused by Janek the pilot in the derelict will attacked somehow by a facehugger while he is connected to the chair and this how we get a bigger alien creature wich will chase the left of the crew around the derelict and around the base....and yeah i still got the feeling that this is the same alien ship as in alien was :)
It's not the same ship.
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 20, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
+++ about guy pearce's character weyland ...what the hell is he doing there?? In the TED viral marketing video he says the year is 2023...and prometheus takes place in...well i dont remember at the end of the 21st century if im right...so at least he is 100 yrs old fart is he?
2085 I belive is the year it takes place.
So because he's old he shouldn't be there? People live into their hundreds
now. Imagine how healthy the richest of rich will be in just a couple decades. The longevity of individual humans is getting longer the more we learn of medical science. It's also possible he had himself frozen for a few decades in there until the time was right.
I think ill stop wondering about the details and wait for 2 months ...because im afraid if i come up with something cool the movie will not come up to my expectations.
ANOTHER TRAILER????
http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx (http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx)
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 20, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
Another thing:
look at this pic...you clearly can see the egg chambers in the ship.
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If you refer to the Egg Silo from the original ALIEN, I beg to differ, my friend. If you can see in the pic below, the vaginal openings are quite close to the bottom of the ship. If I remember correctly, Kane descends quiet a long way to get to the Egg Chamber, and that place is a massive cavernous area.
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Quote from: szkoki on Mar 21, 2012, 12:38:30 AM
I think ill stop wondering about the details and wait for 2 months ...because im afraid if i come up with something cool the movie will not come up to my expectations.
Yep.
Like Matrix Revolutions. The ideas of what could happen in the movie were WAY BETTER than the movie itself :-\
We could likely make an educated guess as to the order of events, based on when Shaw is in her underwear vs when she is in the space-suit. There are alot of other clues also. This is the rough order I think events might occur in (I seperated a few events that I can't seem to blend together):
!!!Spoilers!!!
Spoiler
Humans land at site and start to investigate.
Vickers is in a light-blue, collared outfit at this time(as well as earlier during the ancient star-chart comparisions).
Shaw(suit) is investigating site after landing.
Shaw(suit) has a tear looking up at something she sees(mural?).
David is facinated by animated alien-goo seen at the mound-site.
Mohawk guy(pre-infection) comments on the slime moving.
The human site-investigation turns nasty: "I got a ping" "Are these things moving?" "This thing has opened up from the inside" "It's in my throat. It's in my throat!"
Someone(David?) takes a container of Alien-goo back to Prometheus.
Shaw(naked? underwear?) in bed with Charlie(possibly how she gets infected). Charlie's head in his own hands(stressed?).
Charlie notices he is infected. He may have known before bed-scene.
Shaw(clothing?) sees someone else infected(in window, with tentacle). Her lover Charlie, now fully infected? There is also another woman that is likely infected, who wakes up and bashes the anti-infection-suit guy with a bar of some type(IMAX trailer).
Shaw(underwear) clasps her hands together suddenly with the thought of something bad(she knows she is infected? Knows earth is going to die? She has to kill the infected crew-member(Charlie?) on other side of door/window?). "Cut it off! Cut it off!" is being said at this moment(US trailer), so she is likely seeing an infected crew-member.
Shaw(underwear) is infected/pregnant.
Shaw(underwear) is operated on.
Shaw(underwear) is in hallway, limping along.
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Vickers is in black skin-suit when Derelict is first seen by humans. "What is that?" "It is a ship"
Shaw(in suit) on planet surface, leaping across opening launch doors, pleading that there might not be any earth to go back to. Is this scene pre-infection? If so, why do we see her infected in underwear in human hallways/rooms?
Motionless Vickers(black skin-suit) in hallway, seeing something(SJ? Infected person?).
Vickers(black skin-suit) running through hallway, likely headed to escape-pod.
Escape-pod looking item ejecting from Prometheus, apparently before Prometheus hits the Derelict.
Captain is making an O-face(likely crashing Prometheus into the Derilict intentionally).
Shaw(in suit) escapes crashing Derelict.
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"Kill everything". It is safe to say that this occurs after the infection breaks out, before the fight with mutant happens.
Infected Mohawk guy fights in Prometheus bay.
Space Jockey(s) awake.
A SJ confronts a male & scared female crew member in a room.
Shaw(in suit) is on her butt, up against wall, with SJ in front of her.
Shaw(in suit) has axe in her hand(likely fighting a SJ?).
Comment: To me, it seems like there are human conversations and activity in human-rooms that take place after the Derelict is rammed by Prometheus. Shaw: "We were so wrong" seems to take place in a human-room after a major event(crashed Derelict? Infection breaks out?). Or... does the infection break out, Shaw is operated on, she then says "We were so wrong", and THEN the Space Jockeys wake up and start to depart to Earth when Shaw is back in her suit and investigating planet again(with SJ launch-doors opening)? Also, the scene where Shaw is limping through hallway in underwear, with staples, there are suits in background, but the mobile vehicle is not big enough represent that hallway, so that limping scene must still be on Prometheus before the crash/ramming. When Shaw has axe in her hand(IMAX trailer), there is debris in hallway behind her, so maybe she is inside the Prometheus wreckage(but with functioning hallway light-panels?).
Unanswered questions:
When is Vickers naked? She tears her black skin-suit a bit around neck, as she is running. But gets in escape-pod clothed.
Is the dust-storm natural weather(unlikely), caused by the Derelict ship taking off(possibility due to Derelict departure being seen when humans are still investigating site), caused by the crashed Derelict (slightly unlikely since we see humans onfoot outrunning crashing Derelict), or is the site-Mound blown up(by humans or SJs)?
Is Shaw away from Prometheus when the fight with infected Mohawk guy breaks out in the bay?
Is Prometheus ramming the Derelict just to prevent Derelict from leaving, or is there a duel purpose of Prometheus already being infected?
Once the Prometheus rams the Derelict, I am assuming there are no further scenes that take place in human hallways. "Prometheus has landed" makes it seem like there is no other ship in orbit. One scene in new US trailer shows blast shields folding away from Prometheus cockpit, while it is still in space.
What angers the SJs? The crashed Derelict rammed by Prometheus?(Yes, likely.) Or is it the taking of the alien-goo(taking fire from the Gods)? The goo is just sitting there, ready to be interacted with(possibly the SJs want the goo to infect).
Are the SJs ever non-agressive towards the humans? Are the humans just freaked out/scared in a few scenes, until the SJs are genuinely pissed off(wrecked Derelict)?
When did various civilizations learn the star chart? Were they visited?
Is the Mohawk-guy's helmet melting due to flamethrower(less likely) or because alien-goo canister blasted him in the face(fits with Face-hugger theme)?
Is the container that David is pulling the larger alien substance out of, the same shape as the containers at the Mound-site? I see markings on the side, but it seems a more cylinder shape, and pale in color.
"Big things have small beginnings" is said by David, with his finger out of focus. Initially I thought it was just a gesture. Look closely at tip of finger. Is that something small there? Alien-goo?
This is a super rough list, just to help me put stuff on paper, to start organizing it. Does anyone have additional comments to add? Disagree with the order? Did I miss a scene(not counting scenes before they arrive at planet)? Help me blend my three continuity-lists together.
I think the leaked script mentioned a few details I have not yet seen(my memory of script is faint, though):
A SJ behind the large statue-face.
The Gods/Engineers/SJs are please that their creations(humans) have returned to them, and take the humans deeper into the universe to show off their other creations.
Other misc notes:
"Something in my throat!" is said in main US trailer, but I rarely see it mentioned here on this site. It is amid the voices being played when Shaw is full of emotion and clasping her hands together.
"THEY are leaving" indicates more then one Space Jockey. "Where to?" "Earth." David seems to be making this comment from the star-chart room that is evidently not inside the Derelict ship that is about to take off.
They enter the pyramid, then, they go underground...so this must be a huge complex the whole area.
Check at 29 seconds of U.S. trailer.
whatever it would be cool just to see the egg chambers for a sec
Not sure that it's the brain. The display on the cryo tube says:
"Neuro-Visor Link Established"
Above that it says "Scan Pace" and "Bare Limit" (or Dare Limit, dunno). To the right, by those "balls" that are connected by lines it says "Sub-set".
No indication that it connects to their brains, but maybe it is an aid to spot physiological anomalies caused by the cryo sleep.
Quote from: deepelemblues on Mar 18, 2012, 12:18:53 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 18, 2012, 12:16:53 AM
Quote from: Master on Mar 18, 2012, 12:14:15 AM
This snakelike thing looks a bit like eel:
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Proto chestburster?
This guy is interesting:
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I think he's Prometheus.
It's obvious it's Voldemort :)
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I think the scene establishes David wondering about the humans, what it's like to dream, sleep and so forth...
The display also reads 'dream state' and a series of numbers - wonder whether we will see young Shaw with her father in a flashback while Shaw is inside the cryotube...
Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 20, 2012, 08:06:50 AM
Quote from: Space Voyager on Mar 20, 2012, 07:03:26 AM
I think the trailers have shown too much of the story. :'( I'll have to kick myself in the nuts and stop visiting P forum.
Then tell us, please, what's the story? :)
Well, roughly this: people find a starmap, go there, find the temple or whatever it is, some mechanism starts turning some of the people into Space Jockeys (minus the seat suit), those trigger the "derelict" to go to Earth, and the derelict is shot down.
I hope I'm very wrong but this seems to be the story. If there are no major deviations from this, we practically know everything of importance.
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Mar 20, 2012, 10:47:17 PM
Quote from: nendo on Mar 20, 2012, 10:44:06 PM
Anyone else notice the ship has been flipped around in the latest trailers? not plot related just interesting
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Do you think the ship spins - or whether there's a 360 shot from above? The earth around does look the same tho :s
It looks most like a post production change rather than related to the story event happening
Quote from: nendo on Mar 21, 2012, 01:57:22 PM
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Mar 20, 2012, 10:47:17 PM
Quote from: nendo on Mar 20, 2012, 10:44:06 PM
Anyone else notice the ship has been flipped around in the latest trailers? not plot related just interesting
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Do you think the ship spins - or whether there's a 360 shot from above? The earth around does look the same tho :s
It looks most like a post production change rather than related to the story event happening
turning a ship 180° is just some little post production? i dunno, i would first think which side should be there, before spending f**kin time on rendering and making f**kin effects...
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Mar 21, 2012, 02:40:06 PM
Quote from: nendo on Mar 21, 2012, 01:57:22 PM
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Mar 20, 2012, 10:47:17 PM
Quote from: nendo on Mar 20, 2012, 10:44:06 PM
Anyone else notice the ship has been flipped around in the latest trailers? not plot related just interesting
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg844.imageshack.us%2Fimg844%2F6386%2Fcrashn.png&hash=f27d6865aa844a4ed542d7b7667c3230e1d72f40)
Do you think the ship spins - or whether there's a 360 shot from above? The earth around does look the same tho :s
It looks most like a post production change rather than related to the story event happening
turning a ship 180° is just some little post production? i dunno, i would first think which side should be there, before spending f**kin time on rendering and making f**kin effects...
Why not? re-rending or re-doing a scene that's been rendered is common in the film industry. Happened in Lord of the rings 3 with one of the elephant things. Took them a week to re-do it.
Once its all been set up for lighting texturing particles etc its not that hard to re-render something
i am not talking about rendering but the artist making such a mistake...
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Mar 21, 2012, 05:03:29 PM
i am not talking about rendering but the artist making such a mistake...
you never did change your mind once?
you saw the thing david was taking from the ampule? even it's color (or the lightening) has changed.
y but that's not a mistake, i mean it's not like "naah, derelict looks more beautiful from that angle"
the ampule, well yoü can color it later, no prob,that's nothing big.
it's like making titanic and then first making the front pulling out of the water, then changing it to the end of it... wtf, i mean, that's something yoü should decide before yoü do all the cgi stuff
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Mar 21, 2012, 06:11:21 PM
y but that's not a mistake, i mean it's not like "naah, derelict looks more beautiful from that angle"
the ampule, well yoü can color it later, no prob,that's nothing big.
it's like making titanic and then first making the front pulling out of the water, then changing it to the end of it... wtf, i mean, that's something yoü should decide before yoü do all the cgi stuff
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Mar 21, 2012, 05:03:29 PM
i am not talking about rendering but the artist making such a mistake...
Who said it was a mistake? directors change their minds all the time. More than likely Ridley changes his mind and asked for it to be rotated.
QuoteWell, roughly this: people find a starmap, go there, find the temple or whatever it is, some mechanism starts turning some of the people into Space Jockeys (minus the seat suit), those trigger the "derelict" to go to Earth, and the derelict is shot down.
I hope I'm very wrong but this seems to be the story. If there are no major deviations from this, we practically know everything of importance.
So you cant say anything new that we dont know yet ;D
I said i will not come up with new theories but....yet ::)
We know after all that the alien is such a biomechanichal lifeform...so what if the 1st host is David 8 who will give birth to the first alien/queen...and this is why there is so much build up about syntethics like the 2 viral marketing video.
What, synthetic life isn't an impressive concept on it's own? :)
I think the synthetic bit of the story is simply to reintroduce the general audience to those elements, and a nice little nod to the fans.
NO! IT IS NOT! >:(
;D
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 21, 2012, 09:44:09 PM
QuoteWell, roughly this: people find a starmap, go there, find the temple or whatever it is, some mechanism starts turning some of the people into Space Jockeys (minus the seat suit), those trigger the "derelict" to go to Earth, and the derelict is shot down.
I hope I'm very wrong but this seems to be the story. If there are no major deviations from this, we practically know everything of importance.
So you cant say anything new that we dont know yet ;D
I said i will not come up with new theories but....yet ::)
We know after all that the alien is such a biomechanichal lifeform...so what if the 1st host is David 8 who will give birth to the first alien/queen...and this is why there is so much build up about syntethics like the 2 viral marketing video.
No because there is already a xeno mural somewhere in the temple/ship so the xenos already exist. they don't get created in this movie by humans or androids.
I did noticed the attention given to David and all of ridleys talk about how he wants to do something new with the android concept so i think a big part of the story will revolve around David. That means either he will be evil in the end(but that's not so shocking in this kind of movies) or he will be transformed somehow by the jockey tech, either made into a biological type organism or something else entirely. That dude at the beggining of the story could be David growing veines. Just a possibility, cause it doesn't explain the weird growth (happening in real time) in the back of his head.
Another theory , i have read it somewher on facebook.
"From the alleged leaked script it says that when the Prometheus is heading into the Zeta Reticulli system that they encounter a wormhole that sends them back in time and through space to the early stages of Earth and find several of the "Space Jocky" aliens there. It would kinda make sense because they show them without their helmets on but outside in a few pics that have been released. In Aliens they said they had to use atmosphere processors to alter it so people could breathe. It says in the thing that the Space Jockey's are pissed and then decide to create some sort of genetic altering "stuff" and uses it on some of the crew of the Prometheus. Which begins to alter their DNA. If that whole thing is legit I guess the Aliens haven't been created yet."
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 21, 2012, 11:39:27 PM
Another theory , i have read it somewher on facebook.
"From the alleged leaked script it says that when the Prometheus is heading into the Zeta Reticulli system that they encounter a wormhole that sends them back in time and through space to the early stages of Earth and find several of the "Space Jocky" aliens there. It would kinda make sense because they show them without their helmets on but outside in a few pics that have been released. In Aliens they said they had to use atmosphere processors to alter it so people could breathe. It says in the thing that the Space Jockey's are pissed and then decide to create some sort of genetic altering "stuff" and uses it on some of the crew of the Prometheus. Which begins to alter their DNA. If that whole thing is legit I guess the Aliens haven't been created yet."
But so far it seems the jockey is taking his ship and going to earth? why would he go to earth if he is already on earth? And i didn't know earth is orbiting a planet with rings.
And the only shots with them without helmets is inside the temple rooms and in the ship, who is positioned underground and is a little further away than the temple( notice when the doors start to move the ground)
In the u.s. trailer David doesn't say THEY ARE LEAVING. while in the map room he says THEY WERE LEAVING and the Shaw is asking TO GO WHERE-EARTH. Who knows how long ago they were planning to leave, and something happened to them. And so, maybe the clues on earth are actual warnings that the jockeys will come some day from those coordinates.
But something still buggs me. Is this the whole jockey civilization? The homeworld? Just a temple, and a ship? Or is it some kind of a base of theirs
I would wager that it is a base outpost for them. And there are most likey a few more out their somewhere with egg silos, pyramids and more. I think the Prometheus just got luckily enough to catch this group of space jockey scientists at home base and not on spavaction! wow we have guests from earth, here why dont we mutate you give you xeno-like face with teeth tongues, (you know the kind your ex girlfriend used to have) and generally mess with all your DNA structures, that will be loads I'd fun, maybe you could take something with you as a parting gift maybe a chestbuster or a cool looking urn or egg! Have fun, come see us next year, to the future and beyond!
rather than start a new thread, I'll post this here, it's IGN Rewind Theatre of the new US trailer
http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/03/21/rewind-theater-new-prometheus-trailer (http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/03/21/rewind-theater-new-prometheus-trailer)
hmm it seems the whole space jockey outfit or whatever growing out from the chair itself around the person who sits in there
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Mar 21, 2012, 06:11:21 PM
y but that's not a mistake, i mean it's not like "naah, derelict looks more beautiful from that angle"
the ampule, well yoü can color it later, no prob,that's nothing big.
it's like making titanic and then first making the front pulling out of the water, then changing it to the end of it... wtf, i mean, that's something yoü should decide before yoü do all the cgi stuff
That shot ain't anything big either. Changes happen all the time, and it's enterely cgi, so you don't have to mess with real stuff. The first shot was from one of the first trailers, right? That's when post production was being done. Those ten frames have probably taken two days to complete, due to render pass composition and mostly color correction, to match with the rest of the scenes. The render itself doesn't take longer than one hour.
There's one thing I don't understand. If the Jokey was heading to Earth, why send out a transmission warning other vessels to stay away? If someone has touched on this, I apologize in advance but this thread moves pretty quickly.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 22, 2012, 01:11:17 PM
There's one thing I don't understand. If the Jokey was heading to Earth, why send out a transmission warning other vessels to stay away? If someone has touched on this, I apologize in advance but this thread moves pretty quickly.
To me it looked like someone from the Prometheus activated the derelict, perhaps accidentally. The Jockeys may not have intended Earth, simply someone with an ulterior motive (Weyland...?) The derelict from Alien, by all accounts, is a different ship, different pilot, etc.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 22, 2012, 01:11:17 PM
There's one thing I don't understand. If the Jokey was heading to Earth, why send out a transmission warning other vessels to stay away? If someone has touched on this, I apologize in advance but this thread moves pretty quickly.
well maybe the warning was to keep their own kind away and explain to other jockeys that the xenos had got free, that in turn would have no baring on whatever goes on with humans and the derelict or derelicts depending if its the same one or not.
thanks
rich
So a King has his reign,then he dies.When i heard this i thought about the ampules.In ancient Egypt when a Pharaoh died they would put his organs and things he would need in the afterlife into urns.To me the ampule room looks somewhat like a tomb,The face a kind of ''shrine''.Also,around the Chair platform there seems to be objects that look like Sarcophagus.
Perhaps ancient Egyptians Copying their space Astronaught gods.
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 22, 2012, 01:32:53 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 22, 2012, 01:11:17 PM
There's one thing I don't understand. If the Jokey was heading to Earth, why send out a transmission warning other vessels to stay away? If someone has touched on this, I apologize in advance but this thread moves pretty quickly.
To me it looked like someone from the Prometheus activated the derelict, perhaps accidentally. The Jockeys may not have intended Earth, simply someone with an ulterior motive (Weyland...?) The derelict from Alien, by all accounts, is a different ship, different pilot, etc.
Wait, what? I thought this was an Alien prequel ???
The Derelict ship is already crashed on LV-426 while Prometheus takes place.
...
Now I'm all kinds of WTF. I've been avoiding plot details because I don't want to be exposed to spoilers but that is so strange.
Damon Lindelof said that Ridley wanted to stay away from Alien,he wanted Prometheus to stand on it's own,they didn't want the movie to end with the egg chamber from ALIEN because then you know what happens,so the Derelict from ALIEN will have nothing to do with Prometheus.
Quote from: Effectz on Mar 22, 2012, 03:01:03 PM
Damon Lindelof said that Ridley wanted to stay away from Alien,he wanted Prometheus to stand on it's own,they didn't want the movie to end with the egg chamber from ALIEN because then you know what happens,so the Derelict from ALIEN will have nothing to do with Prometheus.
I get the two sides here. But can't it do both? I am either way on this but in the end whether it is a sequel down the road; I want all the ends to meet up. I am just one of those people.
On the other hand there are soo many that this could connect and like they have said, the last 8 minutes could be that connection. If Peter Weyland is on the Prometheus, if he has experiences with some form of the xenomorph or at least a form of it, then it would make more sense that the crew of the Nostromo would be sent out to collect what Weyland had experience with for the company, I guess he could "phone in" his experiences. Also if he dies out there, he seems old enough from the trailer image, the company could have also sent the Nostromo out to retrieve information on his death, since he was the founder of the company. And the warning that the Nostromo crew could be the warning created by Shaw was the one that is picked up by the crew of the Nostromo? All of this could be done in the last 8 min. of the movie? (oh yeah and of course a possible chestbust from a space jockey. again, if it is not directly connected that's fine, but it could have the potential to be pretty cool if it is, and stand on its own feet as awesome regardless)
*side note, the thing in shaws throat from the trailer, and seems to be also removed from her, could it be a tongue like the ones that the xenomorphs have? maybe she is trying to tell the tongue to cut it out? the crew seems to be transforming into something??
This is a screen cap from the IMAX trailer:
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That's Shaw lying on some kind of operating table. The guy in the hazmat suit doesn't look too human..? Somekind of dream sequence? Shaw experiencing PTSD?
Quote from: zakzak on Mar 22, 2012, 04:35:35 PM
This is a screen cap from the IMAX trailer:
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That's Shaw lying on some kind of operating table. The guy in the hazmat suit doesn't look too human..? Somekind of dream
sequence? Shaw experiencing PTSD?
Motion blurred reflection on mask.
Doesn't look like any kind of face (human/mutant/Jockey/Gungan) just as Shaw's arm doesn't look like an arm either (out of context.)
It looks like a gray alien. Could be fitting for a nightmare sequence in the beginning.
Quote from: Naissus on Mar 22, 2012, 06:08:03 PM
It looks like a gray alien. Could be fitting for a nightmare sequence in the beginning.
now youve said that, it reminds me of the gray alien in hazmat suit on the train from the x files episodes nisei / 731 but i cant find a picture of it!. lol
thanks
rich
Quote from: Effectz on Mar 22, 2012, 02:50:28 PM
The Derelict ship is already crashed on LV-426 while Prometheus takes place.
You don't know that. ::)
The derelict from
Alien is not the same as the ship from
Prometheus. Proof:
AlienNote that both arms are still intact:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictalien4.jpg&hash=61f7fde24b71098b2c6f3a3d7045a9d10a95d5ca)
Additionally, the ship appears to have settled to the ground in its current position like it landed there:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictalien7.jpg&hash=8d72272410e9f836a8924d7a28754efae025ab22)
PrometheusSpoiler
Look at this impact point from the trailer. Prometheus crashes into the ship in the main section:
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The main section can be seen damaged and burning from the impact, but that does not explain why the right arm suddenly explodes. This damage from these events is not present on the derelict from Alien: (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictprometheus7.jpg&hash=44fa8c8a35b1d0713816924bf76e2fccff6eedcb)
Additionally, this sequence causes major damage to the ship as it rolls onto its side, quite the opposite of a smooth landing:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictprometheus6.jpg&hash=adf3d09e0d8ff5bd268522dcf222934e47e63744)
They cannot be the same.
I only want to know one thing....where they are?
No :D seriously i dont get it...so it is way before Alien and the company will get to know the xenomorph now and YET they send 100 years later a mining ship to discover the same artifact not a special squad as they did 100 years earlier and check this... even more bullshit...after Alien NO ONE from the company wants to go to the lv-426 to check out what the crew of the Nostromo found but they send colonist about 40-50 yrs later .... i mean ???
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wtf??? this is the weakest link in the whole Alien story , altough they want the xenomorph so bad that they sacrafice so many people BUT they are so stupid because they would only had to do 2 thing...1. go there and get 1-2 egg , 2. study them and the facehugger somewhere on monkeys but it was difficult for them ??? :o
...only in alien resurrection they do the correct way ...weyland-yutani needed about 300 year to get something from a planet -.-....and aaaaahhhh my mistake in resurrection there is no more WY but another worlds united army and company or whatsoever...im wondering why the went bankrupt :P
Maybe the derelict gets moved (and lost again) in a failed follow up mission to bring the ship back?
cue sequel
i have to say i would be impressed if it would turn out to be a porn movie after 30 minutes
???
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 22, 2012, 10:42:51 PM
i have to say i would be impressed if it would turn out to be a porn movie after 30 minutes
???
I am sorry, what? :D
Quote from: LV-723 on Mar 22, 2012, 09:03:37 PM
The derelict from Alien is not the same as the ship from Prometheus. Proof:
Alien
Note that both arms are still intact:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictalien4.jpg&hash=61f7fde24b71098b2c6f3a3d7045a9d10a95d5ca)
Additionally, the ship appears to have settled to the ground in its current position like it landed there:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictalien7.jpg&hash=8d72272410e9f836a8924d7a28754efae025ab22)
Prometheus
Spoiler
Look at this impact point from the trailer. Prometheus crashes into the ship in the main section:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictprometheus5.jpg&hash=a339693e6ff5cfe1ebdf3baf43413dced9bc8e1b)
The main section can be seen damaged and burning from the impact, but that does not explain why the right arm suddenly explodes. This damage from these events is not present on the derelict from Alien: (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictprometheus7.jpg&hash=44fa8c8a35b1d0713816924bf76e2fccff6eedcb)
Additionally, this sequence causes major damage to the ship as it rolls onto its side, quite the opposite of a smooth landing:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictprometheus6.jpg&hash=adf3d09e0d8ff5bd268522dcf222934e47e63744)
They cannot be the same.
And yet, when we see the Derelict crashed on the surface, it is not damaged at all from the impact, and is not on fire anymore. Hardly "proof".
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg51.imageshack.us%2Fimg51%2F4931%2Fvlcsnap2011122401h41m32.png&hash=a50eb8d30234a9dc612594b2fb15774c001245b8)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg854.imageshack.us%2Fimg854%2F9972%2Fvlcsnap2012031818h55m35.png&hash=11c3da5cd2180b4c700aa0850b83dae7e52e26f0)
We're still on the Derelict topic? :-\
I wonder what the Weyland employed David is employed as...
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 10:54:48 PM
I wonder what the Weyland employed David is employed as...
Science Officer/Weyland's butler, I believe.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 22, 2012, 10:56:27 PM
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 10:54:48 PM
I wonder what the Weyland employed David is employed as...
Science Officer/Weyland's butler, I believe.
Robo-butler :D
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.business-opportunities.biz%2Fstorage%2FPal-Robotics-in-News---REEM-Robot-085746-03172011.png&hash=6374d019dc404a3de57092c727805d5de9a5d7ea)
Kinda what I had figured too. Science officer above all, but Weyland personal assistant and confidant possibly (considering the affection of using a name reserved for a son he never had [presumably]).
Quote from: Effectz on Mar 22, 2012, 02:45:26 PM
So a King has his reign,then he dies.When i heard this i thought about the ampules.In ancient Egypt when a Pharaoh died they would put his organs and things he would need in the afterlife into urns.To me the ampule room looks somewhat like a tomb,The face a kind of ''shrine''.Also,around the Chair platform there seems to be objects that look like Sarcophagus.
Perhaps ancient Egyptians Copying their space Astronaught gods.
I was thinking along the very same line of thought several weeks ago. It definitely looks like a shrine or a way of preserving a race. Too many similarities to the Egyptians to be mere coincidence. And yes, those 4 or 5 pods in the navigation room on the derelict-like ship do look like sarcophagus tombs--don't they? I am wondering if any space jockeys are formed or are (hidden away) in any of them?
Maybe David8 being on the Prometheus mission is a Weyland publicity stunt?
The newest robot on the newest spaceship together in this fresh space-mission-adventure. :P
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 22, 2012, 10:47:14 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 22, 2012, 10:42:51 PM
i have to say i would be impressed if it would turn out to be a porn movie after 30 minutes
???
I am sorry, what? :D
Im always wondering about what would be the audiance reaction to a twist like that in a hollywood movie ;D
If i were a producer i would do it 8) ;D
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 22, 2012, 11:14:51 PM
Maybe David8 being on the Prometheus mission is a Weyland publicity stunt?
The newest robot on the newest spaceship together in this fresh space-mission-adventure. :P
Haha, I can see that given the character they are trying to portray so far.
"I'm so smart and rich, I've got all the best shit crammed into one awesome stunt! Beat that, world!"
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 11:20:10 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 22, 2012, 11:14:51 PM
Maybe David8 being on the Prometheus mission is a Weyland publicity stunt?
The newest robot on the newest spaceship together in this fresh space-mission-adventure. :P
Haha, I can see that given the character they are trying to portray so far.
"I'm so smart and rich, I've got all the best shit crammed into one awesome stunt! Beat that, world!"
The whole world is watching Weylands deep space expidition in anticipation
and then obviously the shit will hit the fan.
I wonder how they'll explain that to the public,
so that everything will be forgotten 30 years later,
when the Nostromo "accidently" recieves a mysterious message.
Hello!
In my first post, let´s see if you guys remember this (attention to the music score!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEVY_lonKf4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEVY_lonKf4#)
Later!
P. S. BTW, who constructed the dirt road in the planet? Have you seen the _rse of Charlize here?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg843.imageshack.us%2Fimg843%2F5317%2Fcontenedorescriosueocul.jpg&hash=4d67c7d46098d57df21901bb012e0b5842a766d8)
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 22, 2012, 10:47:40 PM
Quote from: LV-723 on Mar 22, 2012, 09:03:37 PM
The derelict from Alien is not the same as the ship from Prometheus. Proof:
Alien
Note that both arms are still intact:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictalien4.jpg&hash=61f7fde24b71098b2c6f3a3d7045a9d10a95d5ca)
Additionally, the ship appears to have settled to the ground in its current position like it landed there:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictalien7.jpg&hash=8d72272410e9f836a8924d7a28754efae025ab22)
Prometheus
Spoiler
Look at this impact point from the trailer. Prometheus crashes into the ship in the main section:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictprometheus5.jpg&hash=a339693e6ff5cfe1ebdf3baf43413dced9bc8e1b)
The main section can be seen damaged and burning from the impact, but that does not explain why the right arm suddenly explodes. This damage from these events is not present on the derelict from Alien: (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictprometheus7.jpg&hash=44fa8c8a35b1d0713816924bf76e2fccff6eedcb)
Additionally, this sequence causes major damage to the ship as it rolls onto its side, quite the opposite of a smooth landing:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictprometheus6.jpg&hash=adf3d09e0d8ff5bd268522dcf222934e47e63744)
They cannot be the same.
And yet, when we see the Derelict crashed on the surface, it is not damaged at all from the impact, and is not on fire anymore. Hardly "proof".
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg51.imageshack.us%2Fimg51%2F4931%2Fvlcsnap2011122401h41m32.png&hash=a50eb8d30234a9dc612594b2fb15774c001245b8)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg854.imageshack.us%2Fimg854%2F9972%2Fvlcsnap2012031818h55m35.png&hash=11c3da5cd2180b4c700aa0850b83dae7e52e26f0)
Aduh, guys the ship is biomechanical and can repair itself and plus its black and made outta that really creepy stuff. ::)
Quote from: LV-723 on Mar 22, 2012, 09:03:37 PM
The derelict from Alien is not the same as the ship from Prometheus. Proof:
Alien
Note that both arms are still intact:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictalien4.jpg&hash=61f7fde24b71098b2c6f3a3d7045a9d10a95d5ca)
Additionally, the ship appears to have settled to the ground in its current position like it landed there:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictalien7.jpg&hash=8d72272410e9f836a8924d7a28754efae025ab22)
Prometheus
Spoiler
Look at this impact point from the trailer. Prometheus crashes into the ship in the main section:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictprometheus5.jpg&hash=a339693e6ff5cfe1ebdf3baf43413dced9bc8e1b)
The main section can be seen damaged and burning from the impact, but that does not explain why the right arm suddenly explodes. This damage from these events is not present on the derelict from Alien: (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictprometheus7.jpg&hash=44fa8c8a35b1d0713816924bf76e2fccff6eedcb)
Additionally, this sequence causes major damage to the ship as it rolls onto its side, quite the opposite of a smooth landing:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictprometheus6.jpg&hash=adf3d09e0d8ff5bd268522dcf222934e47e63744)
They cannot be the same.
I think they made a point to make it looked like it crash landed in Alien. It seems pretty obvious to me but perhaps not to everyone. In any case, I don't disagree with the rest of what you said but it's really too hard for anyone to say at this point I think, what with the drastic change in Prometheus' aesthetics from the style Scott used in Alien. It seems like it'd be easy for someone like Scott to write those differences off simply as design changes as I don't think he has much, if any, concern with continuity like you'd expect from a fan. He is a big time movie director, after all. That's not to say he wouldn't worry about that sort of thing if he was making a sequel or prequel, but I wouldn't consider this a prequel in the literal sense from what we've been shown.
one question:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.metro.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2012%2F03%2F20%2Farticle-1332263001560-123900D7000005DC-99227_636x337.jpg&hash=dca0e94f874f4458baedbc081fd0b6c1e7c1ddec)
why is shaw's hair black on this pic instead of red? ???
Quote from: Kol on Mar 23, 2012, 01:40:25 AM
one question:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.metro.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2012%2F03%2F20%2Farticle-1332263001560-123900D7000005DC-99227_636x337.jpg&hash=dca0e94f874f4458baedbc081fd0b6c1e7c1ddec)
why is shaw's hair black on this pic instead of red? ???
Cuz it's damp.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 23, 2012, 01:46:57 AM
Quote from: Kol on Mar 23, 2012, 01:40:25 AM
one question:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.metro.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2012%2F03%2F20%2Farticle-1332263001560-123900D7000005DC-99227_636x337.jpg&hash=dca0e94f874f4458baedbc081fd0b6c1e7c1ddec)
why is shaw's hair black on this pic instead of red? ???
Cuz it's damp.
Yup yup.
Quote from: Kol on Mar 23, 2012, 01:40:25 AM
one question:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.metro.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2012%2F03%2F20%2Farticle-1332263001560-123900D7000005DC-99227_636x337.jpg&hash=dca0e94f874f4458baedbc081fd0b6c1e7c1ddec)
why is shaw's hair black on this pic instead of red? ???
It's an unexpected benefits of the genetic crossover. ;D
Hi folks :)
To me this seems as a very strong argument against Prometheus SJ ship being different from Alien SJ ship:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F2l1443.jpg&hash=7f910d73646abcae0a78e7356d891f7b348c9937)
vs
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2Fdg00eb.jpg&hash=cf37f3eb5cac040d5a31983d38838dde4ca2d471)
The pilot chair is almost the same. Yet the room is quite different.
So they would make the pilot chair painstakingly the same, while completely ignoring the room!?! Hardly. More logical conclusion: these are different ships.
Just to let everyone know, IMDb has an authentic 720 version of the IMAX trailer up.
http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi497590297/ (http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi497590297/)
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 23, 2012, 09:55:32 AM
Just to let everyone know, IMDb has an authentic 720 version of the IMAX trailer up.
http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi497590297/ (http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi497590297/)
It claims so,
but when I take that page apart I can only find a 270p (labeled as 480p) and a 480p (labeled as 720p HD) version, and my eyes seem to confirm that quality wise. :(
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 22, 2012, 10:47:40 PM
Quote from: LV-723 on Mar 22, 2012, 09:03:37 PM
The derelict from Alien is not the same as the ship from Prometheus. Proof:
Alien
Note that both arms are still intact:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictalien4.jpg&hash=61f7fde24b71098b2c6f3a3d7045a9d10a95d5ca)
Additionally, the ship appears to have settled to the ground in its current position like it landed there:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictalien7.jpg&hash=8d72272410e9f836a8924d7a28754efae025ab22)
Prometheus
Spoiler
Look at this impact point from the trailer. Prometheus crashes into the ship in the main section:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictprometheus5.jpg&hash=a339693e6ff5cfe1ebdf3baf43413dced9bc8e1b)
The main section can be seen damaged and burning from the impact, but that does not explain why the right arm suddenly explodes. This damage from these events is not present on the derelict from Alien: (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictprometheus7.jpg&hash=44fa8c8a35b1d0713816924bf76e2fccff6eedcb)
Additionally, this sequence causes major damage to the ship as it rolls onto its side, quite the opposite of a smooth landing:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi181.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx254%2Fbigntall23%2FPrometheus-Alien%2Fderelictprometheus6.jpg&hash=adf3d09e0d8ff5bd268522dcf222934e47e63744)
They cannot be the same.
And yet, when we see the Derelict crashed on the surface, it is not damaged at all from the impact, and is not on fire anymore. Hardly "proof".
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg51.imageshack.us%2Fimg51%2F4931%2Fvlcsnap2011122401h41m32.png&hash=a50eb8d30234a9dc612594b2fb15774c001245b8)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg854.imageshack.us%2Fimg854%2F9972%2Fvlcsnap2012031818h55m35.png&hash=11c3da5cd2180b4c700aa0850b83dae7e52e26f0)
I would say this is when the croisant takes off, not when crashes. There is no debris around...even its extrange that the floor door has closed again...
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 23, 2012, 10:11:57 AM
It claims so,
but when I take that page apart I can only find a 270p (labeled as 480p) and a 480p (labeled as 720p HD) version, and my eyes seem to confirm that quality wise. :(
It is. It's heavily compressed, but it definitely is higher than 480. I've just taken screenshots from it.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 23, 2012, 10:19:52 AM
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 23, 2012, 10:11:57 AM
It claims so,
but when I take that page apart I can only find a 270p (labeled as 480p) and a 480p (labeled as 720p HD) version, and my eyes seem to confirm that quality wise. :(
It is. It's heavily compressed, but it definitely is higher than 480. I've just taken screenshots from it.
The embedded flashplayer resizes the image, when I click fullscreen it gives me an image even bigger than 720p.
And I downloaded the two embedded .mp4's and the larger one is just 480p.
I could be worng here but I found no indication of further files in the scripts.
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 23, 2012, 10:30:31 AM
The embedded flashplayer resizes the image, when I click fullscreen it gives me an image even bigger than 720p.
And I downloaded the two embedded .mp4's and the larger one is just 480p.
I could be worng here but I found no indication of further files in the scripts.
Worked for me. I ripped the mp4 file and it's 1280x720.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 23, 2012, 10:35:19 AM
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 23, 2012, 10:30:31 AM
The embedded flashplayer resizes the image, when I click fullscreen it gives me an image even bigger than 720p.
And I downloaded the two embedded .mp4's and the larger one is just 480p.
I could be worng here but I found no indication of further files in the scripts.
Worked for me. I ripped the mp4 file and it's 1280x720.
Wow. Care to share?
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 23, 2012, 10:43:15 AM
Wow. Care to share?
http://www.mediafire.com/?93ldmp2hzq1rpj0 (http://www.mediafire.com/?93ldmp2hzq1rpj0)
;)
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 23, 2012, 10:50:28 AM
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 23, 2012, 10:43:15 AM
Wow. Care to share?
http://www.mediafire.com/?93ldmp2hzq1rpj0 (http://www.mediafire.com/?93ldmp2hzq1rpj0)
;)
Thanks a lot!
Isn't this frontpage worthy?
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 23, 2012, 10:57:31 AM
Thanks a lot!
Isn't this frontpage worthy?
Maybe when we get a 1080 version. The compression on this 720 is pretty severe in places. It's a step up from the mobile vid that got leaked, but still not
that great.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 23, 2012, 11:02:06 AM
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 23, 2012, 10:57:31 AM
Thanks a lot!
Isn't this frontpage worthy?
Maybe when we get a 1080 version. The compression on this 720 is pretty severe in places. It's a step up from the mobile vid that got leaked, but still not that great.
Right.
Holy shit.
Observations:
Several of the dome complexes in one of the shots.
The statue head has it's eyes closed.
Looked like Guy Pierce in the hazmat suit looking at Noomi.
Definately Holloway with the black vein thing wincing in pain (in his suit).
Weird hands up person looks kinda aged or burned? Can't tell who it is.
Hologram thing looks to be a Space Jockey?
Shot of person on flames throwing someone = person. Me think previous footage doctored to be ambiguous?
Guy Pierce is pointing at someone in the hangar mercenary scene.
Hm hm hm hmmmmm.
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 23, 2012, 11:14:42 AM
Several of the dome complexes in one of the shots.
This ups the scale of the movie a teeny tiny bit. :o
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 23, 2012, 11:21:31 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 23, 2012, 11:14:42 AM
Several of the dome complexes in one of the shots.
This ups the scale of the movie a teeny tiny bit. :o
The most interesting part for me.
can ü make a pic?
managed to find an HD version of the IMAX trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF1mURRzLQM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF1mURRzLQM#ws)
interesting to see that the person walking up the ramp with their arms spread wide is Holloway , except it doesn't look like Holloway (around the 0:47 mark ) also very interesting is the fact there is more than one temple (pause around the 0:14 mark) , as the prometheus comes in to land , blow up to full screen in the distance ..more temples !!!
Holloway on the ramp
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/252/captureil.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/252/captureil.png)
nice shot !
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/capture1pg.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/capture1pg.png)
Temple
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/temple1u.png/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/temple1u.png/)
Temples !! highlighted
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/192/temple2.png/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/192/temple2.png/)
To everyone wondering about the differences in the shots of the derelict crashing and whatnot. Remember that in every movie trailer, there are always used scenes utilized that don't make it to the final film. That could throw off the perception of the final product.
You can see a ringed planet too
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1101.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg425%2Fmrmagoo6%2FUntitled-4.png&hash=55a6ead229267b82a47acac33f482dcb538c128e)
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 23, 2012, 02:56:22 PM
To everyone wondering about the differences in the shots of the derelict crashing and whatnot. Remember that in every movie trailer, there are always used scenes utilized that don't make it to the final film. That could throw off the perception of the final product.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F666kb.com%2Fi%2Fbkx8yff68p13y3m3h.jpg&hash=5c8b5c1485222259f2d7b722e20bed64bb3fb3b3)
Quote from: cragdoo on Mar 23, 2012, 02:39:43 PM
managed to find an HD version of the IMAX trailer
interesting to see that the person walking up the ramp with their arms spread wide is Holloway , except it doesn't look like Holloway (around the 0:47 mark ) also very interesting is the fact there is more than one temple (pause around the 0:14 mark) , as the prometheus comes in to land , blow up to full screen in the distance ..more temples !!!
Holloway on the ramp
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/252/captureil.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/252/captureil.png)
nice shot !
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/capture1pg.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/capture1pg.png)
Temple
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/temple1u.png/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/temple1u.png/)
Temples !! highlighted
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/192/temple2.png/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/192/temple2.png/)
And also managed to find out who got infected in the temple in the trailers you know the guy whos in payne its also Holloway just look at his beard
Quote from: Zeta Reticuli on Mar 23, 2012, 03:46:59 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 23, 2012, 02:56:22 PM
To everyone wondering about the differences in the shots of the derelict crashing and whatnot. Remember that in every movie trailer, there are always used scenes utilized that don't make it to the final film. That could throw off the perception of the final product.
http://666kb.com/i/bkx8yff68p13y3m3h.jpg
Quite.
Quote from: szkoki on Mar 23, 2012, 03:59:37 PM
And also managed to find out who got infected in the temple in the trailers you know the guy whos in payne its also Holloway just look at his beard
The name is also clearly readable on his headpiece under the helmet in that scene ;)
I don't think that's Holloway walking up the ramp with his arms raised... It could be one of the supporting characters with little screentime...
Its Holloway.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1139.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn549%2Fsmarty9000%2Fprometheus3%2Fholloway.jpg&hash=99ab85f399ce94d4e12694a50b73aedb6fed7737)
Quote from: 180924609 on Mar 23, 2012, 05:49:19 PM
Its Holloway.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1139.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn549%2Fsmarty9000%2Fprometheus3%2Fholloway.jpg&hash=99ab85f399ce94d4e12694a50b73aedb6fed7737)
Wonder what's wrong with his face...
Wow, he looks really different and pale compared to the scene when he's talking about the connecting cultures. If he was in pain, and being infected with something, it seems odd he's up front ahead of everyone. Unless he's trying to prove to Vickers that he's okay.
Quote from: 180924609 on Mar 23, 2012, 05:49:19 PM
Its Holloway.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1139.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn549%2Fsmarty9000%2Fprometheus3%2Fholloway.jpg&hash=99ab85f399ce94d4e12694a50b73aedb6fed7737)
Yeah, I can sort of make out the name now. You are right... :)
Valaquen might be on to something... his face... Could he be walking towards Vickers guarding the ramp, making sure no one infected just walks right into the ship..?
Edit: FirstBlood said it ;)
He probably looks like that due to (maybe) having a helmet full of green gas?
I doubt if I'd feel too well if I went through the same thing ;)
EDIT
Actually, the guy on the ramp... looking closer, the forehead name tag is NOT Holloway, looks like there's a "g" in the middle... I'm trying to find a list/cast of characters...
I watch the trailer again and I feel like I enjoy it more with each viewing. I still think this movie is likely going to be my favorite film of 2012!
Quote from: 180924609 on Mar 23, 2012, 05:49:19 PM
Its Holloway.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1139.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn549%2Fsmarty9000%2Fprometheus3%2Fholloway.jpg&hash=99ab85f399ce94d4e12694a50b73aedb6fed7737)
He kinda looks--dare I say it--a little Engineer-ish. :-X
And hooray, a 1080 version... now if only that ugly watermark logo weren't there >:(
"guys im back! i wasnt dead after all! you didnt have to leave me in that temple!, I dont know what that goo did to me but i'm fine now! Honest!........please let me in?"
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 23, 2012, 11:22:56 AM
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 23, 2012, 11:21:31 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 23, 2012, 11:14:42 AM
Several of the dome complexes in one of the shots.
This ups the scale of the movie a teeny tiny bit. :o
The most interesting part for me.
I had to go check it out when I read that.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 23, 2012, 06:49:09 PM
Quote from: 180924609 on Mar 23, 2012, 05:49:19 PM
Its Holloway.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1139.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn549%2Fsmarty9000%2Fprometheus3%2Fholloway.jpg&hash=99ab85f399ce94d4e12694a50b73aedb6fed7737)
He kinda looks--dare I say it--a little Engineer-ish. :-X
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Spoiler
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Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 23, 2012, 06:49:09 PM
He kinda looks--dare I say it--a little Engineer-ish. :-X
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:laugh:
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Mar 23, 2012, 07:25:49 PM
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Spoiler
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Quoth Ian McDiarmid: "No, no, NO!!11!"
this has probably been discussed but at 2:15 before shaw yells and does that face you can see a hand and a shoulder on the right of her, this is the same guy that knocks her down and he is considerably smaller than the bald guy in the scene with the hologram and david from the second t.v spot
Woah, you can clearly see the post production on the mutated mohawk guy. In the official trailers, the (xeno) double long fingers, the prolongated head.. in the WonderCon one nothing of that is there.
Seeing there is more than one temple, and seeing that the "ground" opens out and the derelict spacecraft rises (at least from the trailer, I gathered that), Could we assume that it came from underneath the temple and/or that each temple has it's own derelict spacecraft?
Just a thought.
Quote from: Opiate on Mar 23, 2012, 07:20:26 PM
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 23, 2012, 11:22:56 AM
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 23, 2012, 11:21:31 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 23, 2012, 11:14:42 AM
Several of the dome complexes in one of the shots.
This ups the scale of the movie a teeny tiny bit. :o
The most interesting part for me.
I had to go check it out when I read that.
Damnnnnnnn. I count 5 of those things. and presumably there is a ship underground for every one of them. oh the possibilities...
So the guy who has his hands up looks dead in the face, is he the guy who's insides mutate and escape a'la headburster style ?
Interestingly, during the explosion in the sky scene, you can see the pod on the ground - presumably the same that flew outta the Prometheus before it's suicide route!
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 23, 2012, 06:49:09 PM
Quote from: 180924609 on Mar 23, 2012, 05:49:19 PM
Its Holloway.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1139.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn549%2Fsmarty9000%2Fprometheus3%2Fholloway.jpg&hash=99ab85f399ce94d4e12694a50b73aedb6fed7737)
He kinda looks--dare I say it--a little Engineer-ish. :-X
And hooray, a 1080 version... now if only that ugly watermark logo weren't there >:(
He looks like Patrick Wilson, not Logan Marshall-Green.
The guy on the ramp is not Holloway... Get the trailer and zoom in on the name tag on his forehead... there's a hanging letter ie. a J, G or Y halfway through the name.
From what I can make out, the name consists of Rank, initial, and surname... Both Holloway and Shaw only have their surnames on the name tag. So he's probably a Merc that we've not noticed/seen before - I'm not even going to suggest it's Weyland ;)
Quote from: Kronik on Mar 24, 2012, 12:17:53 PM
The guy on the ramp is not Holloway... Get the trailer and zoom in on the name tag on his forehead... there's a hanging letter ie. a J, G or Y halfway through the name.
From what I can make out, the name consists of Rank, initial, and surname... Both Holloway and Shaw only have their surnames on the name tag. So he's probably a Merc that we've not noticed/seen before - I'm not even going to suggest it's Weyland ;)
I am not sure who he is, but in the tag says HOLLOWAY perfectly clear.
What if this is some mutation of a human and whatever that happened to steal Holloway's gear in attempt to escape? Or just a regular guy who did the same?
Quote from: Opiate on Mar 23, 2012, 07:20:26 PM
I had to go check it out when I read that.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42492.0;attach=525
Notice that structures ? Some balls inside a crater....
Ok...
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Quote from: psychonaut25 on Mar 24, 2012, 07:34:52 PM
Quote from: Opiate on Mar 23, 2012, 07:20:26 PM
I had to go check it out when I read that.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42492.0;attach=525
Notice that structures ? Some balls inside a crater....
Ok...
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/000_dome_on_mars.jpg
These aren't balls inside the craters, what you see on picture is a row of temples enclosed by the walls. Inside one of the temples, Prometheus' crew purportedly will find a Giant Head.
Perhaps each Temple houses a different statue face?
Quote from: SiUttley on Mar 24, 2012, 08:39:43 PM
Perhaps each Temple houses a different statue face?
You may be on to something there. Maybe each temple is devoted to a different "God", or member of the Engineer race. Maybe the Prometheus crew only runs afoul of one of them, and the rest are still there at the end, still waiting to be revived. Or something.
Hmm. Kinda hope it doesn't go down that route.
I havent read every post, but in trying to ascertain the events from the trailers in chronological order i have one problem assuming that the suicide mission to bring down the derelict ship, to me would naturally be towards the end, in the ground shots with people running away from the ship we have a fit looking Shaw? is it just me or does this throw the timeline out?
So if there is more than one temple, could there be more than one derelict class ship on the planet? I'm thinking maybe in the 3rd act, the Prometheus survivors search the other temples or actually go looking for a second derelict to escape and of course they steal the thing. However the space jockey's probably have some-sort of intergalactic anti-theft system. Complete with Space Jockey suit and an over-kill of alien beasties that land upon them the righteous hand of god. Which causes them to all die and crash land on LV-426. :P
Quote from: whiterabbit on Mar 24, 2012, 09:19:44 PM
So if there is more than one temple, could there be more than one derelict class ship on the planet? I'm thinking maybe in the 3rd act, the Prometheus survivors search the other temples or actually go looking for a second derelict to escape and of course they steal the thing. However the space jockey's probably have some-sort of intergalactic anti-theft system. Complete with Space Jockey suit and an over-kill of alien beasties that land upon them the righteous hand of god. Which causes them to all die and crash land on LV-426. :P
:o
Maybe, whiterabbit. MAYBE.
Hehe, is it the way to make to sequell: next team arrives to investigate the circumstances of Prometheus demise and finds another derelict? And on and on!.. ;D
Quote from: aliennaire on Mar 24, 2012, 09:33:49 PM
Hehe, is it the way to make to sequell: next team arrives to investigate the circumstances of Prometheus demise and finds another derelict? And on and on!.. ;D
Oh, that would sure be a new take on the Prometheus mythology. Prometheus keeps trying to steal gods fire but never actually succeeds. Over and over again to only die in horrible ways. :P
Quote from: aliennaire on Mar 24, 2012, 08:33:33 PM
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Mar 24, 2012, 07:34:52 PM
Quote from: Opiate on Mar 23, 2012, 07:20:26 PM
I had to go check it out when I read that.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42492.0;attach=525
Notice that structures ? Some balls inside a crater....
Ok...
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/000_dome_on_mars.jpg
These aren't balls inside the craters, what you see on picture is a row of temples enclosed by the walls. Inside one of the temples, Prometheus' crew purportedly will find a Giant Head.
those resemble xeno eggs. i like it. reminds me of the interminable corridors of the first movie.
...... lost now
Every shot from all of video are here http://prometheus.unoforum.ru/?1-11-0-00000033-000-0-0-1332674126 (http://prometheus.unoforum.ru/?1-11-0-00000033-000-0-0-1332674126)
Quote from: Ra3D on Mar 25, 2012, 11:30:25 AM
Every shot from all of video are here http://prometheus.unoforum.ru/?1-11-0-00000033-000-0-0-1332674126 (http://prometheus.unoforum.ru/?1-11-0-00000033-000-0-0-1332674126)
nice one, that mutant guy looks Fubar on the jumping bit.
allso, pics 78 and 79 whats that to the left of the shuttle on the ground?
Prometheus' car?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thi3gbO1yx0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thi3gbO1yx0#ws)
on the shots of rapace jumping down the platforms that are splitting, you can see one of the ''temples'' in the background and its actually the planet floor thats opening and not one of the ''temples''.
the xeno that appears on the wall..........so is that how they looked before the jockeys dna got thrown into the mix........also i noticed it has camerons queen like crown bone spurs coming out from its head......
and.........in retrospect.......:) i wonder if all the urns contain prometheus esque badguys.......i.e all the creations that cannot be controlled ?????? with humans soon to added to the list ????
and........i am in the thinking that all we have seen is from the 1st hour and a half......and i think that shit only really starts to hit the fan after the sj ship crash , allowing all the little creatures to run free...:)
Quote from: Attack.no1 on Mar 25, 2012, 01:58:26 PM
Quote from: Ra3D on Mar 25, 2012, 11:30:25 AM
Every shot from all of video are here http://prometheus.unoforum.ru/?1-11-0-00000033-000-0-0-1332674126 (http://prometheus.unoforum.ru/?1-11-0-00000033-000-0-0-1332674126)
nice one, that mutant guy looks Fubar on the jumping bit.
allso, pics 78 and 79 whats that to the left of the shuttle on the ground?
Space Jockey's temple, surrounded by circular wall?
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 25, 2012, 04:29:55 PM
the xeno that appears on the wall..........so is that how they looked before the jockeys dna got thrown into the mix........also i noticed it has camerons queen like crown bone spurs coming out from its head......
That was noticed and discussed in the very beginning of this thread with the attempts to outline the crown and other interesting remarks! ;)
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 25, 2012, 04:29:55 PM
on the shots of rapace jumping down the platforms that are splitting, you can see one of the ''temples'' in the background and its actually the planet floor thats opening and not one of the ''temples''.
TBH i don't think anyone thought it was the temple opening. The trailer showed it well that it was the floor not the temple
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 25, 2012, 04:29:55 PM
on the shots of rapace jumping down the platforms that are splitting, you can see one of the ''temples'' in the background and its actually the planet floor thats opening and not one of the ''temples''.
the xeno that appears on the wall..........so is that how they looked before the jockeys dna got thrown into the mix........also i noticed it has camerons queen like crown bone spurs coming out from its head......
and.........in retrospect.......:) i wonder if all the urns contain prometheus esque badguys.......i.e all the creations that cannot be controlled ?????? with humans soon to added to the list ????
and........i am in the thinking that all we have seen is from the 1st hour and a half......and i think that shit only really starts to hit the fan after the sj ship crash , allowing all the little creatures to run free...:)
Yes the ground in front of the Dome is opening in a weird way and underneath you see texture and the same texture you can see on the saucer at the waterfall.
And as they say they are gonna head for Earth it could be that all the domes etc are opening up and an armada is about to take off heading for Earth.
Still think the big giant is an original alien and not one of the crew infected or some kind.
And i still think we aint seen nothing yet of this movie there are things that arent explainable so my guess is there is still a lot kept secrect :)
Quote from: nendo on Mar 25, 2012, 05:37:00 PM
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 25, 2012, 04:29:55 PM
on the shots of rapace jumping down the platforms that are splitting, you can see one of the ''temples'' in the background and its actually the planet floor thats opening and not one of the ''temples''.
TBH i don't think anyone thought it was the temple opening. The trailer showed it well that it was the floor not the temple
yeah i guess that explains all the comments that people have put about the possible outcome of each temple holding its own craft, and other comments about each holding its own god......thanks for putting me straight
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 25, 2012, 06:45:16 PM
Quote from: nendo on Mar 25, 2012, 05:37:00 PM
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 25, 2012, 04:29:55 PM
on the shots of rapace jumping down the platforms that are splitting, you can see one of the ''temples'' in the background and its actually the planet floor thats opening and not one of the ''temples''.
TBH i don't think anyone thought it was the temple opening. The trailer showed it well that it was the floor not the temple
yeah i guess that explains all the comments that people have put about the possible outcome of each temple holding its own craft, and other comments about each holding its own god......thanks for putting me straight
Actually what i said doesn't dispute that. Each temple might have its own Ship. They might have a "hanger" just like the one in the trailer that is built underground right next to it. What i was saying is that the temple clearly doesn't open. and its painfully obviously in the trailer
Quote from: nendo on Mar 25, 2012, 09:03:09 PM
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 25, 2012, 06:45:16 PM
Quote from: nendo on Mar 25, 2012, 05:37:00 PM
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 25, 2012, 04:29:55 PM
on the shots of rapace jumping down the platforms that are splitting, you can see one of the ''temples'' in the background and its actually the planet floor thats opening and not one of the ''temples''.
TBH i don't think anyone thought it was the temple opening. The trailer showed it well that it was the floor not the temple
yeah i guess that explains all the comments that people have put about the possible outcome of each temple holding its own craft, and other comments about each holding its own god......thanks for putting me straight
Actually what i said doesn't dispute that. Each temple might have its own Ship. They might have a "hanger" just like the one in the trailer that is built underground right next to it. What i was saying is that the temple clearly doesn't open. and its painfully obviously in the trailer
again thanks for setting me straight......the information your confirming is pretty much what i said in my post??? i dont get why your repeating my own posts back to me as if your proving a point......the same point im putting across in my posts???
are you really this bored???
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 25, 2012, 09:15:08 PM
Quote from: nendo on Mar 25, 2012, 09:03:09 PM
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 25, 2012, 06:45:16 PM
Quote from: nendo on Mar 25, 2012, 05:37:00 PM
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 25, 2012, 04:29:55 PM
on the shots of rapace jumping down the platforms that are splitting, you can see one of the ''temples'' in the background and its actually the planet floor thats opening and not one of the ''temples''.
TBH i don't think anyone thought it was the temple opening. The trailer showed it well that it was the floor not the temple
yeah i guess that explains all the comments that people have put about the possible outcome of each temple holding its own craft, and other comments about each holding its own god......thanks for putting me straight
Actually what i said doesn't dispute that. Each temple might have its own Ship. They might have a "hanger" just like the one in the trailer that is built underground right next to it. What i was saying is that the temple clearly doesn't open. and its painfully obviously in the trailer
again thanks for setting me straight......the information your confirming is pretty much what i said in my post??? i dont get why your repeating my own posts back to me as if your proving a point......the same point im putting across in my posts???
are you really this bored???
sorry i sensed a tone of sarcasm in your reply
It's the "i created everything species". they don't look like us....we look like them! :o
He transformed one of the crew (advanced genetics)...
The funny head is a mask....to the suit...he got infected with the doomsday creature from the WMD department cause the android stole some weird stuff on charlize therons orders and blew the security measures....btw they implant that genetic stuff into people...guess what happens...
All just a wild guess... ::)
Quote from: zuzuki on Mar 17, 2012, 11:56:49 PM
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 17, 2012, 11:53:07 PM
New images of the Space Jockey:
http://i.imgur.com/Az9as.png
http://i.imgur.com/CE36I.png
http://i.imgur.com/DJtHb.png
this dude is also in the ship at the end chasing shaw. but it's weird cause judging by the other teaser too, his head seems human like,not the elephantine head like in the imax trailer.also he is wearing a dark suit. the thing in the chair had lighter color arms and torso. could it be that there are really 2 types of space jockeys?
I dont think this has been picked up before but has anyone else noticed the back of the engineers head in the trailer? it seems to be replicating the waterfall that he is looking at. Looking at it closely its deffo moving with the flow of the water.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh24%2Fdaveelmo%2Fvlcsnap-2012-03-26-15h12m27s1.png&hash=44ee04371d31d40080e9a859d166cd54d30c105c)
Quote from: dave1978 on Mar 26, 2012, 02:18:38 PM
I dont think this has been picked up before but has anyone else noticed the back of the engineers head in the trailer? it seems to be replicating the waterfall that he is looking at. Looking at it closely its deffo moving with the flow of the water.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh24%2Fdaveelmo%2Fvlcsnap-2012-03-26-15h12m27s1.png&hash=44ee04371d31d40080e9a859d166cd54d30c105c)
I think it's just undulating, not flowing like the waterfall. Interesting idea though!
Quote from: Infected on Mar 25, 2012, 06:19:00 PM
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 25, 2012, 04:29:55 PM
on the shots of rapace jumping down the platforms that are splitting, you can see one of the ''temples'' in the background and its actually the planet floor thats opening and not one of the ''temples''.
the xeno that appears on the wall..........so is that how they looked before the jockeys dna got thrown into the mix........also i noticed it has camerons queen like crown bone spurs coming out from its head......
and.........in retrospect.......:) i wonder if all the urns contain prometheus esque badguys.......i.e all the creations that cannot be controlled ?????? with humans soon to added to the list ????
and........i am in the thinking that all we have seen is from the 1st hour and a half......and i think that shit only really starts to hit the fan after the sj ship crash , allowing all the little creatures to run free...:)
Yes the ground in front of the Dome is opening in a weird way and underneath you see texture and the same texture you can see on the saucer at the waterfall.
And as they say they are gonna head for Earth it could be that all the domes etc are opening up and an armada is about to take off heading for Earth.
Still think the big giant is an original alien and not one of the crew infected or some kind.
And i still think we aint seen nothing yet of this movie there are things that arent explainable so my guess is there is still a lot kept secrect :)
Isnt it " they "were" heading for earth "
Im pretty confident that the race who the crew are expecting to find all died during flight prep and the imposters try to use david like a puppet :) maybe they lack something thats needed to connect to the ship ???
Whaddaya think?
http://alienseries.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/giger-prometheus-and-biomechanoids.html (http://alienseries.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/giger-prometheus-and-biomechanoids.html)
nice post.......but im sure i can see the same hole punched into all the chambers....????
Nice one, now we can see that Giger is really involved.
Quote from: dave1978 on Mar 26, 2012, 02:18:38 PM
I dont think this has been picked up before but has anyone else noticed the back of the engineers head in the trailer? it seems to be replicating the waterfall that he is looking at. Looking at it closely its deffo moving with the flow of the water.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh24%2Fdaveelmo%2Fvlcsnap-2012-03-26-15h12m27s1.png&hash=44ee04371d31d40080e9a859d166cd54d30c105c)
Anyone noticed the tattoo on the thumb yet?
nope......and i zoomed in lolz?????????????????????????????????????
I think the reason people think his head looks like a waterfall is that
HALF OF HIS HEAD IS MISSING, and you are lookingat the waterfall...
I think.
Quote from: armageddon on Mar 26, 2012, 06:49:49 PM
Quote from: dave1978 on Mar 26, 2012, 02:18:38 PM
I dont think this has been picked up before but has anyone else noticed the back of the engineers head in the trailer? it seems to be replicating the waterfall that he is looking at. Looking at it closely its deffo moving with the flow of the water.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh24%2Fdaveelmo%2Fvlcsnap-2012-03-26-15h12m27s1.png&hash=44ee04371d31d40080e9a859d166cd54d30c105c)
Anyone noticed the tattoo on the thumb yet?
thats not a tatoo, its the same "vein" that runs on whole body
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Mar 26, 2012, 07:35:56 PM
Quote from: armageddon on Mar 26, 2012, 06:49:49 PM
Quote from: dave1978 on Mar 26, 2012, 02:18:38 PM
I dont think this has been picked up before but has anyone else noticed the back of the engineers head in the trailer? it seems to be replicating the waterfall that he is looking at. Looking at it closely its deffo moving with the flow of the water.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh24%2Fdaveelmo%2Fvlcsnap-2012-03-26-15h12m27s1.png&hash=44ee04371d31d40080e9a859d166cd54d30c105c)
Anyone noticed the tattoo on the thumb yet?
thats not a tatoo, its the same "vein" that runs on whole body
Bigger image
http://shot.qip.ru/005zQC-102Nk63/ (http://shot.qip.ru/005zQC-102Nk63/)
Quote from: armageddon on Mar 26, 2012, 07:44:24 PM
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Mar 26, 2012, 07:35:56 PM
Quote from: armageddon on Mar 26, 2012, 06:49:49 PM
Quote from: dave1978 on Mar 26, 2012, 02:18:38 PM
I dont think this has been picked up before but has anyone else noticed the back of the engineers head in the trailer? it seems to be replicating the waterfall that he is looking at. Looking at it closely its deffo moving with the flow of the water.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh24%2Fdaveelmo%2Fvlcsnap-2012-03-26-15h12m27s1.png&hash=44ee04371d31d40080e9a859d166cd54d30c105c)
Anyone noticed the tattoo on the thumb yet?
thats not a tatoo, its the same "vein" that runs on whole body
Bigger image
http://shot.qip.ru/005zQC-102Nk63/ (http://shot.qip.ru/005zQC-102Nk63/)
I think its only video error or artifacting. Not a totoo I think.
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Mar 26, 2012, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: armageddon on Mar 26, 2012, 07:44:24 PM
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Mar 26, 2012, 07:35:56 PM
Quote from: armageddon on Mar 26, 2012, 06:49:49 PM
Quote from: dave1978 on Mar 26, 2012, 02:18:38 PM
I dont think this has been picked up before but has anyone else noticed the back of the engineers head in the trailer? it seems to be replicating the waterfall that he is looking at. Looking at it closely its deffo moving with the flow of the water.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh24%2Fdaveelmo%2Fvlcsnap-2012-03-26-15h12m27s1.png&hash=44ee04371d31d40080e9a859d166cd54d30c105c)
Anyone noticed the tattoo on the thumb yet?
thats not a tatoo, its the same "vein" that runs on whole body
Bigger image
http://shot.qip.ru/005zQC-102Nk63/ (http://shot.qip.ru/005zQC-102Nk63/)
I think its only video error or artifacting. Not a totoo I think.
Agreed. Looks nothing like a tattoo. Just people seeing something that's not there. Its just artifacting
IMAX trailer in Full 1080p straight from FOX UK here:
http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/downloads/Prometheus_Movie_IMAX_PREVIEW.mov (http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/downloads/Prometheus_Movie_IMAX_PREVIEW.mov)
Also if anyone can put up with the Russian dubbing, here's the international trailer in 3D! Make sure to go to the youtube page of the video and choose 3D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXgophJKUog#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXgophJKUog#ws)
Quote from: antovolk on Mar 27, 2012, 12:09:55 PM
IMAX trailer in Full 1080p straight from FOX UK here:
http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/downloads/Prometheus_Movie_IMAX_PREVIEW.mov (http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/downloads/Prometheus_Movie_IMAX_PREVIEW.mov)
Still some heavy compression, but hot damn that loos good! Thanks for that! Now I have a hi-res version of my favorite shot! :D
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Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 27, 2012, 06:11:08 PM
Quote from: antovolk on Mar 27, 2012, 12:09:55 PM
IMAX trailer in Full 1080p straight from FOX UK here:
http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/downloads/Prometheus_Movie_IMAX_PREVIEW.mov (http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/downloads/Prometheus_Movie_IMAX_PREVIEW.mov)
Still some heavy compression, but hot damn that loos good! Thanks for that! Now I have a hi-res version of my favorite shot! :D
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This shot and the others from this scene - which seems to have Vickers waiting for David then confronting him about something - are among my favs. The heavy blue tone and composition are great - and Vckers sure looks more than a little spooky waiting stock still like that.
I do like Vickers alone in her stylin' moon boots! ;D
Cyberdyne, anyone? :D
pointed out below:
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[Sorry if this was posted before...]
Bolivian distributor of 'Prometheus' uploaded the teaser trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76eIC-eOvmc#ws) on their Youtube account. I've only seen widescreen versions of it before, and this one obviously have different aspect ratio, IMAX-like, so one can see those parts of screen which are usually hidden. The quality is horrible, though.
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vs
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Quote from: Greatvillage on Mar 28, 2012, 05:45:25 PM
[Sorry if this was posted before...]
Bolivian distributor of 'Prometheus' uploaded the teaser trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76eIC-eOvmc#ws) on their Youtube account. I've only seen widescreen versions of it before, and this one obviously have different aspect ratio, IMAX-like, so one can see those parts of screen which are usually hidden. The quality is horrible, though.
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vs
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Yeah, the German Trailer 1 already did that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI-VzMlF2A8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI-VzMlF2A8#ws)
Quote from: antovolk on Mar 27, 2012, 12:09:55 PM
IMAX trailer in Full 1080p straight from FOX UK here:
http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/downloads/Prometheus_Movie_IMAX_PREVIEW.mov (http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/downloads/Prometheus_Movie_IMAX_PREVIEW.mov)
Also if anyone can put up with the Russian dubbing, here's the international trailer in 3D! Make sure to go to the youtube page of the video and choose 3D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXgophJKUog#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXgophJKUog#ws)
Anybody have any pointers for making the 3d look good?
I have REAL D 3D glasses by the way.
if there the reald ones that you got from the theater they wont work on a monitor. you need the red green ones or something like the nvision.
Cross-eyeing works good for me.
i just managed to find out what will be the suprise in the movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRdPs7tLZ_A# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRdPs7tLZ_A#)
I vote we adopt the name "Jerry" for the Engineer, NOW! I want a pull for this.
No, i'm serious. Let's call him Jerry.
And hope he doesn't get mad.
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 28, 2012, 05:26:18 PM
Cyberdyne, anyone? :D
pointed out below:
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Had a look at the 3d there.
Now I know it's not coloured EXACTLY but I really don't see the point in it.
Oh great so a character stands out from the background more......amazing.
It's not worth it for that. It's just disorientating and it goes against my natural impulse when watching movies which is to let me eye move around and look at different details and not JUST what the film-makers want you to look at.
never noticed this before.
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"from the UK trailer"
http://ridleygrams.tumblr.com/post/20125891851/torchlightroast-i-was-bored-and-noticed-this (http://ridleygrams.tumblr.com/post/20125891851/torchlightroast-i-was-bored-and-noticed-this)
^^^
If you remove the movement effect you get this:
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That was discussed a bit, before. It sure looks like a shorter xeno head. If you look closely, you can see long fingers in that guy too.
Quote from: VickersAsh on Mar 29, 2012, 08:08:02 PM
never noticed this before.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mkegsYLr1qghiomo3_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1333137994&Signature=ztfDt2nbRzIDy%2FGSkqqYVb%2BK3jk%3D
"from the UK trailer"
http://ridleygrams.tumblr.com/post/20125891851/torchlightroast-i-was-bored-and-noticed-this (http://ridleygrams.tumblr.com/post/20125891851/torchlightroast-i-was-bored-and-noticed-this)
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yeah, it looks quite like a skull. nut the pic is to blurry, though.
I keep telling people the alien has its bio structure already, and when it molds with human dna wearing a suit. thats how it becomes bio mechanical but no one listens to me? :(
Anyways READ THIS http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Prometheus-Should-Rated-R-Wind-Up-PG-13-Says-Ridley-Scott-30196.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Prometheus-Should-Rated-R-Wind-Up-PG-13-Says-Ridley-Scott-30196.html)
Just speculation. It's obvious Scott doesn't know what rating he'll get.
Quote from: AsapJockey on Mar 29, 2012, 11:12:17 PM
I keep telling people the alien has its bio structure already, and when it molds with human dna wearing a suit. thats how it becomes bio mechanical but no one listens to me? :(
Anyways READ THIS http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Prometheus-Should-Rated-R-Wind-Up-PG-13-Says-Ridley-Scott-30196.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Prometheus-Should-Rated-R-Wind-Up-PG-13-Says-Ridley-Scott-30196.html)
And the alien head allready have a mohawk...
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Quote from: AsapJockey on Mar 29, 2012, 11:12:17 PM
I keep telling people the alien has its bio structure already, and when it molds with human dna wearing a suit. thats how it becomes bio mechanical but no one listens to me? :(
Anyways READ THIS http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Prometheus-Should-Rated-R-Wind-Up-PG-13-Says-Ridley-Scott-30196.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Prometheus-Should-Rated-R-Wind-Up-PG-13-Says-Ridley-Scott-30196.html)
I listen........and agree :)
Quote from: VickersAsh on Mar 29, 2012, 08:08:02 PM
never noticed this before.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mkegsYLr1qghiomo3_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1333137994&Signature=ztfDt2nbRzIDy%2FGSkqqYVb%2BK3jk%3D
"from the UK trailer"
http://ridleygrams.tumblr.com/post/20125891851/torchlightroast-i-was-bored-and-noticed-this (http://ridleygrams.tumblr.com/post/20125891851/torchlightroast-i-was-bored-and-noticed-this)
That's so blurry. How can you gain anything from that? It's like saying Nessie exists.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 30, 2012, 05:25:02 PM
That's so blurry. How can you gain anything from that? It's like saying Nessie exists.
He doesn't?!?!?! :'( :'( :'(
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 30, 2012, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: VickersAsh on Mar 29, 2012, 08:08:02 PM
never noticed this before.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mkegsYLr1qghiomo3_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1333137994&Signature=ztfDt2nbRzIDy%2FGSkqqYVb%2BK3jk%3D
"from the UK trailer"
http://ridleygrams.tumblr.com/post/20125891851/torchlightroast-i-was-bored-and-noticed-this (http://ridleygrams.tumblr.com/post/20125891851/torchlightroast-i-was-bored-and-noticed-this)
That's so blurry. How can you gain anything from that? It's like saying Nessie exists.
lol i'm just posting what that guy said. and ik it could be an optical illusion and i'm seeing what i want to see, but it does kind of look skull-ish :D
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 30, 2012, 07:52:42 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 30, 2012, 05:25:02 PM
That's so blurry. How can you gain anything from that? It's like saying Nessie exists.
He doesn't?!?!?! :'( :'( :'(
If he did, he's dead now. The poor gigantic invisible dinosaur. :'(
Just saw the trailer for the hundredth time it seems but this time at the movie theatre, looks a lot different from my computer screen. Regardless of the rating the feel of the movie, will shine through. I am more than excited to go back into that dark gritty world of space nightmares! I sat on the edge of my seat for the entire trailer as if I was watching it again for the first time. The Alien DNA is all over it, so instead of chestbusting Xeno's. The humans actually seem to transform into them or mesh together into something simular as the Aliens we know. The skull with coned head and Mohawk totally gives me the creeps! Don't know where that pic came from, but there are good things in store
Quote from: VickersAsh on Mar 31, 2012, 12:30:07 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 30, 2012, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: VickersAsh on Mar 29, 2012, 08:08:02 PM
never noticed this before.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mkegsYLr1qghiomo3_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1333137994&Signature=ztfDt2nbRzIDy%2FGSkqqYVb%2BK3jk%3D
"from the UK trailer"
http://ridleygrams.tumblr.com/post/20125891851/torchlightroast-i-was-bored-and-noticed-this (http://ridleygrams.tumblr.com/post/20125891851/torchlightroast-i-was-bored-and-noticed-this)
That's so blurry. How can you gain anything from that? It's like saying Nessie exists.
lol i'm just posting what that guy said. and ik it could be an optical illusion and i'm seeing what i want to see, but it does kind of look skull-ish :D
And I think a cinnamon bun looks like Mother Teresa's face :P
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 01, 2012, 05:42:46 AM
And I think Mother Teresa's face looks like a cinnamon bun :P
Fixed. :P
The difference being?
I meant to imply that, while some people can see, for example, the image of Jesus in a tortilla, the act of seeing Mother Theresa's face on a cinnamon bun is redundant, because her face itself already looks like a cinnamon bun.
Joke fail. :'(
Lol, nicely done.
just saw in a screencap from one of the trailers that the human head inside the temple (?) has its eyes closed... don't know where i got it from but so far i had been under the impression that they were open! maybe the moment when it opens its eyes will be the one when things start to get messy. could be quite an impressive scene...
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 01, 2012, 05:46:07 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 01, 2012, 05:42:46 AM
And I think Mother Teresa's face looks like a cinnamon bun :P
Fixed. :P
you're both a bit retarded, i think.
leave mother theresa alone.
Quote from: azrael55 on Apr 01, 2012, 08:48:59 AM
just saw in a screencap from one of the trailers that the human head inside the temple (?) has its eyes closed... don't know where i got it from but so far i had been under the impression that they were open! maybe the moment when it opens its eyes will be the one when things start to get messy. could be quite an impressive scene...
Or if the stone head starts to move it could be also a bit cheesy
Quote from: Kol on Apr 01, 2012, 12:35:47 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 01, 2012, 05:46:07 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 01, 2012, 05:42:46 AM
And I think Mother Teresa's face looks like a cinnamon bun :P
Fixed. :P
you're both a bit retarded, i think.
leave mother theresa alone.
You've never heard of this happening?
Quote from: Kol on Apr 01, 2012, 12:35:47 PM
you're both a bit retarded, i think.
leave mother theresa alone.
She's dead, I don't think she cares. Anyway, if she were still alive she'd be too busy making sure poor people at risk of HIV couldn't get condoms.
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 01, 2012, 06:21:27 PM
Quote from: Kol on Apr 01, 2012, 12:35:47 PM
you're both a bit retarded, i think.
leave mother theresa alone.
She's dead, I don't think she cares. Anyway, if she were still alive she'd be too busy making sure poor people at risk of HIV couldn't get condoms.
I´m astonished: this is for sure one of the cruelest idiocy I´ve read in quite some time.
For your information, she alone did more for the more in need than a million demagogues with their pockets full of condoms and their heads empty of generosity.
Quote from: Lssar on Apr 01, 2012, 07:05:50 PM
I´m astonished: this is for sure one of the cruelest idiocy I´ve read in quite some time.
For your information, she alone did more for the more in need than a million demagogues with their pockets full of condoms and their heads empty of generosity.
I see that Catholic propaganda wagon is still at full force. ::)
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I wonder ... what does God or Catholicism have to do with showing some respect for a woman that dedicated her life to care for people you guys wouldn´t even touch with a stick?
Oh!, she was Catholic ... so?
Oh!, you are so biased anti-Catholic ... so?
What a religion has to do with prometheus trailer???? Any mods here?
Quote from: Lssar on Apr 01, 2012, 07:18:22 PM
I wonder ... what does God or Catholicism have to do with showing some respect for a woman that dedicated her life to care for people you guys wouldn´t even touch with a stick?
She didn't dedicate her life to that. She dedicated her life to self-promotion, hobnobbing with and taking money from fascists, and funneling most of her organizations money into missionary work,
not helping the poor, whom she didn't really give two shits about. In fact, in her own words, she said the poor should just accept "their lot" and suffer because it brings them closer to Jesus.
Do some research before you blindly parrot the party line.
Don't know why I come on here anymore. I rarely ever post unless it's worth it but just popped my head in to see if there's any news on one of this years biggest film and what I've read is frankly embarrassing. You lot need to grow up and learn to stick on topic.
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 01, 2012, 07:22:45 PM
Quote from: Lssar on Apr 01, 2012, 07:18:22 PM
I wonder ... what does God or Catholicism have to do with showing some respect for a woman that dedicated her life to care for people you guys wouldn´t even touch with a stick?
She didn't dedicate her life to that. She dedicated her life to self-promotion, hobnobbing with and taking money from fascists, and funneling most of her organizations money into missionary work, not helping the poor, whom she didn't really give two shits about. In fact, in her own words, she said the poor should just accept "their lot" and suffer because it brings them closer to Jesus.
Do some research before you blindly parrot the party line.
I know we're off-topic but ...
Teresa refused the suffering painkillers because suffering aligned them with the torture of Christ. She also accepted money from despots and also embezzled money, which she refused to return when found out. She also refused the dying any comfort -because again, it's unChrist-like to die otherwise- and yet died herself in the most luxurious comfort that the Western world could heap on her.This is a fact but is actually not very well known. Funnily enough, she's more of a celebrity worldwide than in Calcutta, where she isn't seen as benevolent as she is elsewhere. Christopher Hitchens wrote an expose and hosted a programme on the subject. Here's the first few chapters of a book on the subject: http://www.meteorbooks.com/introduction.html (http://www.meteorbooks.com/introduction.html)
^ this concerns factual, real-world problems. I see no problem in mentioning this. But let's not invoke the G-man. That's a mess we can't be bothered with. If you want to discuss this at length, create a new thread or PM one another. Trailer talk is slowing down but let's not veer too wildly off course :)
Um can we talk about SPACE TAPIRS? :-[
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 02, 2012, 02:58:18 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 01, 2012, 07:22:45 PM
Quote from: Lssar on Apr 01, 2012, 07:18:22 PM
I wonder ... what does God or Catholicism have to do with showing some respect for a woman that dedicated her life to care for people you guys wouldn´t even touch with a stick?
She didn't dedicate her life to that. She dedicated her life to self-promotion, hobnobbing with and taking money from fascists, and funneling most of her organizations money into missionary work, not helping the poor, whom she didn't really give two shits about. In fact, in her own words, she said the poor should just accept "their lot" and suffer because it brings them closer to Jesus.
Do some research before you blindly parrot the party line.
I know we're off-topic but ...
Teresa refused the suffering painkillers because suffering aligned them with the torture of Christ. She also accepted money from despots and also embezzled money, which she refused to return when found out. She also refused the dying any comfort -because again, it's unChrist-like to die otherwise- and yet died herself in the most luxurious comfort that the Western world could heap on her.This is a fact but is actually not very well known. Funnily enough, she's more of a celebrity worldwide than in Calcutta, where she isn't seen as benevolent as she is elsewhere. Christopher Hitchens wrote an expose and hosted a programme on the subject. Here's the first few chapters of a book on the subject: http://www.meteorbooks.com/introduction.html (http://www.meteorbooks.com/introduction.html)
^ this concerns factual, real-world problems. I see no problem in mentioning this. But let's not invoke the G-man. That's a mess we can't be bothered with. If you want to discuss this at length, create a new thread or PM one another. Trailer talk is slowing down but let's not veer too wildly off course :)
Yeah, sure, huge off topic, but ... do you really believe all that crap from this ... uh ...
Christopher Hitchens? A guy that justified the October Revolution as a necessary event in the modernization of Russia? Sure, more than 60 million dead to modernize a country ... Worth it, uh Christopher? Still drinking that much? Oh, wait ... You passed away already!
No more replies from me, I think we all let clear our opinion. To finish, just a wiki-quote:
"Mother Teresa's Missionaries of Charity at the time of her death had 610 missions in 123 countries including hospices and homes for people with HIV/AIDS, leprosy and tuberculosis, soup kitchens, children's and family counselling programmes, orphanages and schools. She was the recipient of numerous honours, including the 1979 Nobel Peace Prize for her humanitarian work."Christopher Hitchens, at the time of his death, left to posterity ... errr ... nothing.
Now Prometheus ...
Quote from: AsapJockey on Apr 02, 2012, 06:28:45 AM
Um can we talk about SPACE TAPIRS? :-[
Right!
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Quote from: Lssar on Apr 02, 2012, 11:45:03 AM
Yeah, sure, huge off topic, but ... do you really believe all that crap from this ... uh ... Christopher Hitchens? A guy that justified the October Revolution as a necessary event in the modernization of Russia? Sure, more than 60 million dead to modernize a country ... Worth it, uh Christopher? Still drinking that much? Oh, wait ... You passed away already!
No more replies from me, I think we all let clear our opinion. To finish, just a wiki-quote:
"Mother Teresa's Missionaries of Charity at the time of her death had 610 missions in 123 countries including hospices and homes for people with HIV/AIDS, leprosy and tuberculosis, soup kitchens, children's and family counselling programmes, orphanages and schools. She was the recipient of numerous honours, including the 1979 Nobel Peace Prize for her humanitarian work."
Christopher Hitchens, at the time of his death, left to posterity ... errr ... nothing.
Now Prometheus ...
Well if you're incapable of looking at other sources or from resorting to ad hominems then I'm more than happy to move on.
And I mean it. We're moving on. Warnings and deletions will be put into effect on off-topic posts.
Quote from: AsapJockey on Apr 02, 2012, 06:28:45 AM
Um can we talk about SPACE TAPIRS? :-[
I have the distinct urge to gun them down. :)
no matter how many times I watch the trailers,I get chills. Love it.
Quote from: Vepariga on Apr 09, 2012, 12:28:29 AM
no matter how many times I watch the trailers,I get chills. Love it.
Agreed. It's going to be AWESOME. :D
Things we're probably going to find out.
1. The SJ ship is a terraforming vessel/bomber. The cargo is used to wipe out any indigenous lifeforms and then the terraforming begins.
2. Humans were created to serve as SJ workers/slaves on a terraformed Earth.
3. The SJ's are neither good nor evil.
4. There are many planets where the SJ's have left behind "temples" and bio weapons.
5. The xenos are a creation of the SJ's.
6. Weyland is an crazy old man hellbent on achieving godlike status/live forever.
7. Shaw will give birth to something.
8.SJ's or their creations will kill crewmembers, perhaps after Weylend tries to steal thier tech.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Apr 11, 2012, 01:54:11 PM
Things we're probably going to find out.
1. The SJ ship is a terraforming vessel/bomber. The cargo is used to wipe out any indigenous lifeforms and then the terraforming begins.
2. Humans were created to serve as SJ workers/slaves on a terraformed Earth.
3. The SJ's are neither good nor evil.
4. There are many planets where the SJ's have left behind "temples" and bio weapons.
5. The xenos are a creation of the SJ's.
6. Weyland is an crazy old man hellbent on achieving godlike status/live forever.
7. Shaw will give birth to something.
8.SJ's or their creations will kill crewmembers, perhaps after Weylend tries to steal thier tech.
Well I don't have to see the movie anymore, wait f**k that!! SPACE TAPIRS!!!
The rules are that you have to be an official member of the order of the space tapir in order to mention its holy name.
The Creator is my Girlfriend. ::)
What are these ridiculous tapirs? And will they be included on the all you can eat buffet?
You've all lost the plot! :laugh:
Quote from: AsapJockey on Apr 12, 2012, 03:40:46 AM
The Creator is my Girlfriend boyfriend. ::)
Fixed it for ya sweety.
someone hasn't seen the pics thread.
Quote from: Ron Swanston on Apr 12, 2012, 03:58:02 AM
What are these ridiculous tapirs? And will they be included on the all you can eat buffet?
I wasn't here some time...and the tapirs are still here...
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 12, 2012, 03:42:16 AM
Quote from: AsapJockey on Apr 12, 2012, 03:40:46 AMThe Creator is my Girlfriend. ::)
ಠ_ಠ
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 14, 2012, 01:34:15 AM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Apr 13, 2012, 01:35:42 PM
Quote from: AsapJockey on Apr 12, 2012, 03:40:46 AMThe Creator is my Girlfriend boyfriend. ::)
Fixed it for ya sweety.
...ಠ_ಠ
Priceless. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgMgYZYZwjU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgMgYZYZwjU#ws)
thanks to viscal at pf (http://www.prometheusforum.net)
......que in soviet Russia jokes.
Quote from: shamash on Apr 16, 2012, 08:42:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgMgYZYZwjU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgMgYZYZwjU#ws)
thanks to viscal at pf (http://www.prometheusforum.net)
......que in soviet Russia jokes.
Russian Janek tends to overact just a little
I just got my hands on a Russian version of the US trailer they posted above in 3D! I'll see if I can upload it onto YT with English audio.
And they probably released that trailer as well as the international one because it was made by a Russian (and loads of people asked for in on the Russian FB page)
Quote from: JKS1 on Apr 16, 2012, 09:41:37 AM
Quote from: shamash on Apr 16, 2012, 08:42:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgMgYZYZwjU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgMgYZYZwjU#ws)
thanks to viscal at pf (http://www.prometheusforum.net)
......que in soviet Russia jokes.
Russian Janek tends to overact just a little
???
generally or at a certain point?
i love fassbender's "big things have small beginnings"-line in russian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp9wqlqeri8#noexternalembed-ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp9wqlqeri8#noexternalembed-ws)
in 3d thanks to antovolk (http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/comment/22891#Comment_22891)
Quote from: shamash on Apr 16, 2012, 10:34:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp9wqlqeri8#noexternalembed-ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp9wqlqeri8#noexternalembed-ws)
in 3d thanks to antovolk (http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/comment/22891#Comment_22891)
Beat me to my own video!
I got rid of the embedding as YouTube's 3D function doesn't work when viewing embeds of videos, only when you watch it on the video's page.
yeah i seen it pop up over at prometheusforum and decided to repost it :)
Here's the original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXgophJKUog#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXgophJKUog#ws)
Quote from: LarsVader on Apr 16, 2012, 11:23:22 AM
Here's the original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXgophJKUog#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXgophJKUog#ws)
That's the international trailer, that was posted quite a while ago.
The one I uploaded is the US trailer in 3D. The video was from a Russian 3D copy of the trailer, and I just replaced the audio with English.
Slo-Mo IMAX trailer: http://youtu.be/-LqA1rHtapo (http://youtu.be/-LqA1rHtapo)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg135.imageshack.us%2Fimg135%2F7710%2F85792515.jpg&hash=b358b770be9f496fcb59e345c667047ca3c587ca)
Shaw has some kind of needle in her hand?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg220.imageshack.us%2Fimg220%2F2997%2F47387960.jpg&hash=3a8f3b058d4dfc6011e432a6ad00a6c8cb3d480c)
After crash (?) look at smoke. That bag must be special, you see it alot and if this is after the crash it must have some relevance. Appears to be Shaw.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg809.imageshack.us%2Fimg809%2F2179%2F61009067.jpg&hash=3d809236c187c46198860030c3f26f85c2b882eb)
Looks like Holloway
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg845.imageshack.us%2Fimg845%2F1115%2F66986293.jpg&hash=6786d930788afbb8dfab4d53b9268d42a2a8acba)
Shaw with bag
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg84.imageshack.us%2Fimg84%2F2476%2F78062594.jpg&hash=177f40db455e9958651382f3099ee5215b0b1cf2)
Definitely Holloway infected
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg542.imageshack.us%2Fimg542%2F298%2F51244491.jpg&hash=9ddd18f3535ae3734800cc12154b3e5a3a4e29b8)
No mutation but Fifield in motion (Mohawk clearly visible)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg811.imageshack.us%2Fimg811%2F8792%2F72070740.jpg&hash=531b91ab0dcd60ed93444e96c5306d9fafc2ffb9)
Shaw @ SJ head - is this in the bag?
The shot of the guy getting tossed is completely different from the other versions we have seen. Here's a comparison:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee395%2FChrisPachi%2Fcompr.jpg&hash=9614fb61cdd5ab3ccc4fa84b9c1d1ebbcf85664e)
In the first the 'chucker' is obviously a crew member, but in the second it is something else entirely. Also, there are parts of each frame that are identical (see the two guys in the background) while other parts are completely different, for example the fire and smoke effects. Surely these aren't post effects? What the hell? A composite of several takes?
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 20, 2012, 12:44:04 AM
The shot of the guy getting tossed is completely different from the other versions we have seen. Here's a comparison:
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee395/ChrisPachi/compr.jpg
In the first the 'chucker' is obviously a crew member, but in the second it is something else entirely. Also, there are parts of each frame that are identical (see the two guys in the background) while other parts are completely different, for example the fire and smoke effects. Surely these aren't post effects? What the hell? A composite of several takes?
im guessing ones an earlier render than the other.
same shot, different versions.
I've been trying to find a 1080p download link for the IMAX trailer...any help?
Quote from: marsekay on Apr 20, 2012, 09:06:17 PM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 20, 2012, 12:44:04 AM
The shot of the guy getting tossed is completely different from the other versions we have seen.
im guessing ones an earlier render than the other. same shot, different versions.
That makes sense. I guess I hadn't thought of Fifield being so drastically altered in post.
No idea where to put this, so here it is.
Does anybody have a bigger version of exactly this version of that image?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg2.timeinc.net%2Few%2Fi%2F2012%2F03%2F17%2FPrometheus_510.jpg&hash=169eb09299d2d554567cf4f1f772d560a9e2b9fb)
the best of all the trailers so far:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u0tHdR0K5A#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u0tHdR0K5A#ws)
and it has red blood:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSVzuX.png&hash=1066b142f9ccab838295083aff876df8249ada19)
They've really made the incision noticeable this time around. Wow. And it looks quite painful too.
I swear, if she's leaking Prawn liquid in the NA version...
goddamn japanese and their f**king awesome trailers...
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 25, 2012, 02:59:21 AM
I swear, if she's leaking Prawn liquid in the NA version...
Jesus christ, quit your bitching, who cares?
Spoiler
;)
guess we'll just watch it in Japanese!
no but seriously, Ridley DID say he made several cuts of this movie to test it's reception. perhaps the rating has already been aproved and he no longer has to mask footage not to dissapoint people?
Quote from: LarsVader on Apr 23, 2012, 12:39:49 PM
No idea where to put this, so here it is.
Does anybody have a bigger version of exactly this version of that image?
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2012/03/17/Prometheus_510.jpg
Forgive my ignorance here, but what exactly is that head representing? Is it Prometheus proper?
It's the head of the Engineer, aka a (the?) Space Jockey.
Makes sense, thanks! I wasn't sure. I'm lost in these threads.
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 25, 2012, 03:07:36 AM
goddamn japanese and their f**king awesome trailers...
Isnt that just the same as the UK/International trailer but with Japanese subtitles ?
no. its way slower and has diferent music.
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 25, 2012, 10:31:22 AM
no. its way slower and has diferent music.
no it isnt ...and no it doesnt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk#ws)
think youre mistaking the US trailer for the International one
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 25, 2012, 10:31:22 AM
no. its way slower and has diferent music.
Surprised you haven't seen the International trailer yet; came out basically right alongside the other one.
wasnt the international one the one with the flashes? i saw that one the other day on the theater. it wasnt this.
i just dont care that much to watch every trailer.
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 25, 2012, 10:58:02 AM
i just dont care that much to watch every trailer.
me either, but i am a bit surprised, that the japanese one has the blood and an open wound on shaw's belly and the rest gets some ink for blood -.-
but i just hope it is only in the trailer and in the actual movie we will see the blood.
Quote from: First Blood on Apr 25, 2012, 02:47:04 AM
They've really made the incision noticeable this time around. Wow. And it looks quite painful too.
really, really nasty.
Quote from: JKS1 on Apr 25, 2012, 09:45:32 AM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 25, 2012, 03:07:36 AM
goddamn japanese and their f**king awesome trailers...
Isnt that just the same as the UK/International trailer but with Japanese subtitles ?
no, it isn't. the pacing is quite different. more dialogue, less "action". and at the end we hear the infamous alien-trailer-screams and also a different "ending", than the others.
i think you mistake something here.
Quote from: Kol on Apr 24, 2012, 02:53:15 PMhttp://i.imgur.com/SVzuX.png
My daughter was born by c-section, and I can tell you that the procedure is god-damned horrifying. They first have to cut through the outer skin and fat layers, part the abdominal muscles, cut some more, suck out the embryonic fluid and quite literally
yank the baby out. Of course my wife felt nothing thanks to a quick shot of awesome into her spinal column, but if Shaw goes through a c-section without anesthetic then that is a whole world of unspeakable horror.
I have decided not to take my wife to this film.
See it first, make a judgement call, then decide? ;)
Damn spoilers.
I was trying to think where this scene happens?
Maybe the start of the third act?
The end of the third act?
How does it happen?
Does it enter and grow rapidly?
When it exits does it grow even quicker?
Does it enter Shaw, then face - hug her repeatedly creating multiple face huggers?
Is this the first face hugger? Is this the thing that comes out of the egg in ALIEN?
Is this Shaw trying to beat the "Prometheus myth" and not have her liver eaten?
Is this the beginning of the section that creates the DNA of ALIEN?
One thing I noticed is that there is the image of SHAW falling to her knees and David can be seen in the background talking to a wheelchair bound Peter Weyland.
So I'm hoping it happens not too far into the movie because it's a big spoiler, it's honestly the only real big spoiler I know about.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 25, 2012, 01:49:30 PM
Quote from: Kol on Apr 24, 2012, 02:53:15 PMhttp://i.imgur.com/SVzuX.png
My daughter was born by c-section, and I can tell you that the procedure is god-damned horrifying. They first have to cut through the outer skin and fat layers, part the abdominal muscles, cut some more, suck out the embryonic fluid and quite literally yank the baby out. Of course my wife felt nothing thanks to a quick shot of awesome into her spinal column, but if Shaw goes through a c-section without anesthetic then that is a whole world of unspeakable horror.
I have decided not to take my wife to this film.
If it gets the PG-13 rating that the m.oney grubbing suits are so fixated on then theres no way anything as horrific as that will be graphically depicted on screen
Quote from: Kol on Apr 25, 2012, 11:17:45 AM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 25, 2012, 10:58:02 AM
i just dont care that much to watch every trailer.
me either, but i am a bit surprised, that the japanese one has the blood and an open wound on shaw's belly and the rest gets some ink for blood -.-
That's the bandage, just folded funny. Bloody bandage, but a bandage all the same.
You guys and girls need to head over to itunes RIGHT NOW. They've just posted a new Prometheus video!!!!!!
Quote from: Virgil_uk on Apr 26, 2012, 12:27:43 AM
You guys and girls need to head over to itunes RIGHT NOW. They've just posted a new Prometheus video!!!!!!
Very sweet. I liked this too. I was wondering if it would have a face or not. Glad they stuck to the original idea. This is new to me at least.
Quote from: Virgil_uk on Apr 26, 2012, 12:27:43 AM
You guys and girls need to head over to itunes RIGHT NOW. They've just posted a new Prometheus video!!!!!!
Some beautiful visuals in there
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox/prometheus/ (http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox/prometheus/)
Not a fan of Marshal-Green's amateur hamminess though :P :P :P
The one line he had in this preview, he was just excited. I don't know about you, but I've seen people that excited before... it's not exactly out of the ordinary unless you're living in a retirement home.
Considering it's part of his enthusiastic character and he just traveled across the galaxy to discover what could possibly relate to the creation of mankind, and he's just about to enter the home of these 'gods', you'd think some excitement would be warranted and not, you know, hammy?
But yeah, I'll just put him in the pile with Lindelof of random things to hate.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 06:15:11 AM
The one line he had in this preview, he was just excited. I don't know about you, but I've seen people that excited before... it's not exactly out of the ordinary unless you're living in a retirement home.
Considering it's part of his enthusiastic character and he just traveled across the galaxy to discover what could possibly relate to the creation of mankind, and he's just about to enter the home of these 'gods', you'd think some excitement would be warranted and not, you know, hammy?
But yeah, I'll just put him in the pile with Lindelof of random things to hate.
'Excitement' needn't be hammy, yet he makes it hammier than a pig farm
Bill Paxton in Aliens exhibited similar traits but did it totally convincingly, with Marshall-Green I just dont 'buy it' - obvious 'acting' of a pretty bad sort........
............. there's nothing 'random' about not liking it either
Wait, his bit of excitement at the beginning of this (about to venture into what could be the greatest discovery by mankind) was hammy, but Bill Paxton's "Ultimate Badass" monologe (before facing an unknown alien enemy that has wiped out an entire colony) wasn't?
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi50.tinypic.com%2Fiylb44.jpg&hash=7ff3b42dcba7b65af13e6e924302098df02b088f)
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 11:10:38 AM
Wait, his bit of excitement at the beginning of this (about to venture into what could be the greatest discovery by mankind) was hammy, but Bill Paxton's "Ultimate Badass" monologe (before facing an unknown alien enemy that has wiped out an entire colony) wasn't?
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi50.tinypic.com%2Fiylb44.jpg&hash=7ff3b42dcba7b65af13e6e924302098df02b088f)
Not saying it wasnt but the performance was believable, not something I could say of what I've seen of LMG so far, and I went to the trouble of checking out some of his other stuff on the web and yep.......would you believe it..........he's a pretty crappy C list actor all round......f**k knows why they picked him for Prometheus !!!????
[insert hilarious gif here that essentially says 'naa naa nu naa naaaah']
::) ::) ::)
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 11:10:38 AM
Wait, his bit of excitement at the beginning of this (about to venture into what could be the greatest discovery by mankind) was hammy, but Bill Paxton's "Ultimate Badass" monologe (before facing an unknown alien enemy that has wiped out an entire colony) wasn't?
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi50.tinypic.com%2Fiylb44.jpg&hash=7ff3b42dcba7b65af13e6e924302098df02b088f)
Nope. Bill Paxton was ace as Hudson. This guy, in this particular scene anyway, isn't. He's BAW. Big time, BAW.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 26, 2012, 02:07:48 PM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 11:10:38 AM
Wait, his bit of excitement at the beginning of this (about to venture into what could be the greatest discovery by mankind) was hammy, but Bill Paxton's "Ultimate Badass" monologe (before facing an unknown alien enemy that has wiped out an entire colony) wasn't?
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi50.tinypic.com%2Fiylb44.jpg&hash=7ff3b42dcba7b65af13e6e924302098df02b088f)
Nope. Bill Paxton was ace as Hudson. This guy, in this particular scene anyway, isn't. He's BAW. Big time, BAW.
scene? it's a one second glimpse of a scene... ::)
i can't understand this much dislike for marhshall-green. i think he will have an more important role, than people admit it.
Spoiler
you all will be cheer up, when rapace kills him in the movie, though.
Quote from: Kol on Apr 26, 2012, 02:11:55 PM
i think he will have an more important role, than people admit it.
What exactly does that have to do with his performance being kinda shoddy? If he does have this kind of issue with acting, then less of him will be better. I mean, if you agreed with that initial part, wouldn't you agree? Having him be more important with a bad performance is a bad thing.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 26, 2012, 02:37:11 PM
Quote from: Kol on Apr 26, 2012, 02:11:55 PM
i think he will have an more important role, than people admit it.
What exactly does that have to do with his performance being kinda shoddy? If he does have this kind of issue with acting, then less of him will be better. I mean, if you agreed with that initial part, wouldn't you agree? Having him be more important with a bad performance is a bad thing.
playing a douchebag & superior-being-mutation in the same movie requires two different strands; two-types of acting, when it's indeed script-driven.
and in the end: the director decides how a actor represent his role.
i just guess that holloway is an unlikeable character.
Quote from: Kol on Apr 26, 2012, 03:24:11 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 26, 2012, 02:37:11 PM
Quote from: Kol on Apr 26, 2012, 02:11:55 PM
i think he will have an more important role, than people admit it.
What exactly does that have to do with his performance being kinda shoddy? If he does have this kind of issue with acting, then less of him will be better. I mean, if you agreed with that initial part, wouldn't you agree? Having him be more important with a bad performance is a bad thing.
playing a douchebag & superior-being-mutation in the same movie requires two different strands; two-types of acting, when it's indeed script-driven.
and in the end: the director decides how a actor represent his role.
i just guess that holloway is an unlikeable character.
See, I think that's the point. Holloway isn't supposed to be a douchebag. from what it looks like he's supposed to be a bit of a tragic character. The way he sits on the bed with Shaw's unconscious form behind him indicates he does give a damn. It's just that the performance is not backing that up.
I'm not going to blame Ridley for a bad actor.
Quote from: Kol on Apr 26, 2012, 03:24:11 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 26, 2012, 02:37:11 PM
Quote from: Kol on Apr 26, 2012, 02:11:55 PM
i think he will have an more important role, than people admit it.
What exactly does that have to do with his performance being kinda shoddy? If he does have this kind of issue with acting, then less of him will be better. I mean, if you agreed with that initial part, wouldn't you agree? Having him be more important with a bad performance is a bad thing.
playing a douchebag & superior-being-mutation in the same movie requires two different strands; two-types of acting, when it's indeed script-driven.
and in the end: the director decides how a actor represent his role.
i just guess that holloway is an unlikeable character.
i have no issue at all with an unlikeable character if hes well played
Ian holm in Alien as a perfect example: brilliant acting of the highest order
Brion James in Blade Runner - played his part perfectly - but i certainly didnt like the character
Burke in Aliens......need I go on ?
I dont hate LMG ....why would I ?....dont know the guy......but judging by his acting from what I've seen (and I'm not just talking the trailers clips, I checked out some of his other movie and TV roles as well)...he's C list at best.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 26, 2012, 04:45:39 PM
See, I think that's the point. Holloway isn't supposed to be a douchebag. from what it looks like he's supposed to be a bit of a tragic character. The way he sits on the bed with Shaw's unconscious form behind him indicates he does give a damn. It's just that the performance is not backing that up.
I'm not going to blame Ridley for a bad actor.
How about this; f**k
what it looks like and read his character bio in the Empire Magazine article, come back here, and tell me that his excitement is out of character. The scene we're discussing here is before anything bad goes down, you'd think horrific events would change a g--
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbrowntweedsociety.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F05%2Fhudson-aliens.jpg&hash=7bad02b1db2cbefa172bd025041e3f3008b1a48d)
--oh yeah. Guess that makes Hudson a "tragic character", too.
How about you guys see the movie first or better yet actually look in to who the character is supposed to be before throwing shit around. It's all available out there.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 26, 2012, 02:07:48 PM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 11:10:38 AM
Wait, his bit of excitement at the beginning of this (about to venture into what could be the greatest discovery by mankind) was hammy, but Bill Paxton's "Ultimate Badass" monologe (before facing an unknown alien enemy that has wiped out an entire colony) wasn't?
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi50.tinypic.com%2Fiylb44.jpg&hash=7ff3b42dcba7b65af13e6e924302098df02b088f)
Nope. Bill Paxton was ace as Hudson. This guy, in this particular scene anyway, isn't. He's BAW. Big time, BAW.
I guess asking for an articulate response was a little too much. Don't get me wrong, I like Hudson and I think Paxton did a great job, but if you didn't have any bias attached to the classic Aliens and it was coming out in this day and age, you'd have the exact same problem with Hudson that you do with Halloway. And there's not a single doubt in my mind that Halloway will be a less giddy character than Hudson; he's a thrill seeking scientist with a thirsted determination to uncover our greatest mysteries. Hey, maybe you don't need to look at that Empire article now.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 09:21:03 PM
How about this; f**k what it looks like and read his character bio in the Empire Magazine article, come back here, and tell me that his excitement is out of character. The scene we're discussing here is before anything bad goes down, you'd think horrific events would change a g--
Hey, Space Sweeper, I say this with as much respect as possible because I do in fact find your insight very interesting but uh, how about
you chill out? You've got this agressiveness going on that's very unhealthy. :)
Yes, I read the article. I give it very little credance, as i've read dozens of those for countless other film and TV projects. Honestly, forget what a magazine says, or what interviews say. Often what the text says about a character turns out to be completely off the wall.
Of his final Bond outing, in response to fans questioning the realism of James Bond, Pierce Brosnan said that "Die Another Day" would be one of the most grounded and realistic Bond films. It turned out to be a nasty CGI mess.
In a magazine article on Star Trek Voyager, it was said that "Neelix" was going to be their breakout character. "Combining the charms of Odo and Quark from DS9." He turned out to be one of the most
annoying characters to ever disgrace Star Trek. It was arguably The Doctor who turned out to be the shows break out character, and absolutely Seven of Nine who turned the show around several seasons in. There's a reason SFDebris has a "stupid Neelix moment" in all his Voyager reviews.
Just because a characters description is given in a magazine does not mean he will play out that way when he's exposed to an audience. Depending entirely on the way he's played, and what stays in the movie, you can get a completely different performance when compared to the concept.
So, once again, going by what we've seen of him in trailers and the clips. He comes off as hammy, and unbelievable. That is in contrast to the very talented cast he's got all around him.
So, yes, from what we've seen of him thus far. I can say his performance
sucks. Why that bothers you, I don't honestly know. It's not even trashing Prometheus, it's trashing one shoddy actor's performance because he sucks when you compare him to the entire AMAZING ensemble we have for this movie. A sub-par actor sticks out far more when he's surrounded by really good actors.
Again, I shouldn't have to repeat this, but this is going by
"What we have seen THUS FAR" maybe you're right and the rest of the movie will somehow explain his oddball performances, but I seriously doubt it.
Really, I want to know, why do some of you get so upset that some of us have detracting remarks? I belive some of us have even said we're still really friggin' excited for the movie.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 11:10:38 AM
How about you guys see the movie first or better yet actually look in to who the character is supposed to be before throwing shit around. It's all available out there.
This is a discussion thread in the twilight of speculation on a movie about to be released. Why don't
you relax? What the Hell is wrong with people having opinions based on the media we've seen that you have to be so defensive over a character in a movie YOU have yet to see either? Okay, fine, you don't see the ham in the clips of him we've seen? That's fine. But follow your own advice. You haven't seen the movie, either. Why don't
you reserve the judgement that this actors performance is even defensible?
Because if all of us reserved judgement, and kept our opinions and first impressions to ourselves there wouldn't be a need for a discussion forum on this site to begin with!
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 11:10:38 AM
I guess asking for an articulate response was a little too much. Don't get me wrong, I like Hudson and I think Paxton did a great job, but if you didn't have any bias attached to the classic Aliens and it was coming out in this day and age, you'd have the exact same problem with Hudson that you do with Halloway. And there's not a single doubt in my mind that Halloway will be a less giddy character than Hudson; he's a thrill seeking scientist with a thirsted determination to uncover our greatest mysteries. Hey, maybe you don't need to look at that Empire article now.
You keep marrying written concept and final performance together. A short snippet about a character written for a magazine, or a blurb used repeatedly in interviews does not actually mean a damn. What matters is the nuances of the script, and the actor's ability to translate that into a solid performance.
The actor playing Holloway sounded completely HAMMY in his delivery. It has nothing to do with what he's supposed to be, it's the fact that he completely misses that sense of believability entirely. As some people have said "I don't believe him." It's not because we don't get what he's trying to play. It's that we can SEE that he's trying to play something to begin with. An actor's performance should be
invisible. Do you disagree with that?
Have to agree with OpenMaw on this one. Marshall-Green has been the ugly sore thumb in this cast since the first images were released, and he just gets worse with each further reveal. :-\
Hopefully his character dies off early and has a minimum of screentime. :laugh:
I liked the cheer. Sounded like the kinda cheer someone might give whilst on the cusp of being immortalized forever in history.
I'd like to see more of Ralph Spall. Haven't seen much of him at all actually. Besides being slumped over in a chair with a hoodie.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 03:21:42 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 09:21:03 PM
How about this; f**k what it looks like and read his character bio in the Empire Magazine article, come back here, and tell me that his excitement is out of character. The scene we're discussing here is before anything bad goes down, you'd think horrific events would change a g--
Hey, Space Sweeper, I say this with as much respect as possible because I do in fact find your insight very interesting but uh, how about you chill out? You've got this agressiveness going on that's very unhealthy. :)
Goodness, your ability to determine whether somebody is angry or provocative is almost as bad as your ability to determine whether somebody is "hammy" or excited. ;)
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 03:21:42 AM
Yes, I read the article. I give it very little credance, as i've read dozens of those for countless other film and TV projects. Honestly, forget what a magazine says, or what interviews say. Often what the text says about a character turns out to be completely off the wall.
So I assume you miss the part when they directly describe footage/lines from the movie to support their claim on what the character is like...? :-\
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 03:21:42 AM
So, yes, from what we've seen of him thus far. I can say his performance sucks. Why that bothers you, I don't honestly know. It's not even trashing Prometheus, it's trashing one shoddy actor's performance because he sucks when you compare him to the entire AMAZING ensemble we have for this movie. A sub-par actor sticks out far more when he's surrounded by really good actors.
Really, I want to know, why do some of you get so upset that some of us have detracting remarks? I belive some of us have even said we're still really friggin' excited for the movie.
Lemme just get this out here: I'm not questioning you because I interpreted that as you being against the movie, it's the fact that you're focusing on a character (well the actor's portrayal or them) that literally has done no wrong. But the part that I really bat an eye at? The fact that nobody can describe what's so "hammy" or "unrealistic" about LMG's acting. And before you ask, no I'm not some LMG fanatic, and I don't think I've seen him in anything before. It's like the people that hate Lindelof because they heard from a vocal minority that
Lost's ending 'sucked', or maybe they just don't like his tweets... and almost take that to the point where you'd think it reflects his writing.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 03:21:42 AM
This is a discussion thread in the twilight of speculation on a movie about to be released. Why don't you relax? What the Hell is wrong with people having opinions based on the media we've seen that you have to be so defensive over a character in a movie YOU have yet to see either? Okay, fine, you don't see the ham in the clips of him we've seen? That's fine. But follow your own advice. You haven't seen the movie, either. Why don't you reserve the judgement that this actors performance is even defensible?
I'm reserving judgment by not lashing out against stuff like this as an inarticulate child would. As for reserving judgement that the actor's performance is defensible? Consider this; we've seen the same things here, but I'm not crying out against it. As I said, everybody is complaining about something in such a vague manner and then failing to explain
what was so bad about it. When we eventually get responses, it's usually some crap like "people don't act like that in an Alien movie".
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 03:21:42 AM
You keep marrying written concept and final performance together. A short snippet about a character written for a magazine, or a blurb used repeatedly in interviews does not actually mean a damn. What matters is the nuances of the script, and the actor's ability to translate that into a solid performance.
Many of these are based on what these people have seen from the characters, which is undoubtedly more than we have. If they're characters at all, they'll display what they're like as soon as they enter the spotlight. Consider also, that many of these are based on what the cast and crew [director, screenwriters] are saying in interviews. These are more than likely accurate. Unless you've got this "tragic figure" thing in your mind still, I think their word means a bit more than what
you make out of one shot from the trailer.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 03:21:42 AM
The actor playing Holloway sounded completely HAMMY in his delivery. It has nothing to do with what he's supposed to be, it's the fact that he completely misses that sense of believability entirely. As some people have said "I don't believe him." It's not because we don't get what he's trying to play. It's that we can SEE that he's trying to play something to begin with. An actor's performance should be invisible. Do you disagree with that?
If you're willing to make the claim that he sounded hammy, you'd best be prepared to explain what sounded hammy
about it. Consider the words we've heard him say, and then consider what was in the script; as you said, "What matters is the nuances of the script, and the actor's ability to translate that into a solid performance", so consider, where was the weakness in his delivery? I'm not asking of a step by step break down on the art of acting, I'm asking you to tell me what was so "hammy" in his words and why you think that it's been such a deviation from the character you imagine he's supposed to be.
I may sound like I've got some rough edges, OpenMaw, but really I'm just trying to get some answers out of this gentleman's quarrel.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
Goodness, your ability to determine whether somebody is angry or provocative is almost as bad as your ability to determine whether somebody is "hammy" or excited. ;)
Well, i'm glad you're feeling better anyway. :)
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
So I assume you miss the part when they directly describe footage/lines from the movie to support their claim on what the character is like...? :-\
No, I didn't miss that at all. I think I explained adequately why I don't take those kind of magazine articles, even ones expressing specifics, to be a clear indication of
performance. The people doing the articles, the people involved with the production, are biased in the films favor.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
Lemme just get this out here: I'm not questioning you because I interpreted that as you being against the movie, it's the fact that you're focusing on a character (well the actor's portrayal or them) that literally has done no wrong. But the part that I really bat an eye at? The fact that nobody can describe what's so "hammy" or "unrealistic" about LMG's acting. And before you ask, no I'm not some LMG fanatic, and I don't think I've seen him in anything before. It's like the people that hate Lindelof because they heard from a vocal minority that Lost's ending 'sucked', or maybe they just don't like his tweets... and almost take that to the point where you'd think it reflects his writing.
You'll have to forgive me on that one. I was referring more in general, than directly at
you.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
I'm reserving judgment by not lashing out against stuff like this as an inarticulate child would. As for reserving judgement that the actor's performance is defensible? Consider this; we've seen the same things here, but I'm not crying out against it. As I said, everybody is complaining about something in such a vague manner and then failing to explain what was so bad about it. When we eventually get responses, it's usually some crap like "people don't act like that in an Alien movie".
Except, you're not reserving judgement in one respect. You're being defensive against those that
do raise an opinion against the film.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
Many of these are based on what these people have seen from the characters, which is undoubtedly more than we have. If they're characters at all, they'll display what they're like as soon as they enter the spotlight. Consider also, that many of these are based on what the cast and crew [director, screenwriters] are saying in interviews. These are more than likely accurate. Unless you've got this "tragic figure" thing in your mind still, I think their word means a bit more than what you make out of one shot from the trailer.
As I said previously, I also factor in the bias of the people saying certain things. They're not going to tell you if something is bad, for obvious reasons. They may not even see it themselves. Speaking as someone who's been close to a few projects before, mostly my own, it becomes very hard to see when something isn't working because you've fallen in love with it, or you greatly enjoy it. It's easier to ignore, or be blinded towards flaws when you're close to something.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
If you're willing to make the claim that he sounded hammy, you'd best be prepared to explain what sounded hammy about it.
As I and others have stated. I didn't believe his performance. He sounded off. He sticks out both visually and in his performance as a whole. This isn't the only clip we've seen of him, either. We've seen several bits of his performance, and with each of them, as Cvalda said, he's gotten worse.
For instance, the bits of him during the briefing felt... Like they were being read. Instead of a genuine sense of excitement(something Noomi is doing far better, she's got a child-like glee to her character) it just sounds like he's running an infomercial. He's a little too over pronounced in his mannerisms is part of the problem. A Shatnerian quality to it.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
Consider the words we've heard him say, and then consider what was in the script; as you said, "What matters is the nuances of the script, and the actor's ability to translate that into a solid performance", so consider, where was the weakness in his delivery? I'm not asking of a step by step break down on the art of acting, I'm asking you to tell me what was so "hammy" in his words and why you think that it's been such a deviation from the character you imagine he's supposed to be.
I'll have to say, read what I just wrote above. I think that summarizes my problems pretty solidly. He lacks elements of subtlety, and the way he speaks the words does not really indicate to me a sincerity. David, Vickers, Shaw, Fifield, and Janek all convey a better sense of verisimilitude than he does.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
I may sound like I've got some rough edges, OpenMaw, but really I'm just trying to get some answers out of this gentleman's quarrel.
It's okay, sweeps. I still love you. :)
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 04:57:25 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
Goodness, your ability to determine whether somebody is angry or provocative is almost as bad as your ability to determine whether somebody is "hammy" or excited. ;)
Well, i'm glad you're feeling better anyway. :)
Touche. :laugh:
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 04:57:25 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
So I assume you miss the part when they directly describe footage/lines from the movie to support their claim on what the character is like...? :-\
No, I didn't miss that at all. I think I explained adequately why I don't take those kind of magazine articles, even ones expressing specifics, to be a clear indication of performance. The people doing the articles, the people involved with the production, are biased in the films favor.
What else are they going to say? "Holloway looks like an utterly shithouse character and I hope he gets killed off ASAP"? That's not an observation, it's an opinion. It's difficult to be biased based on observation.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 04:57:25 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
I'm reserving judgment by not lashing out against stuff like this as an inarticulate child would. As for reserving judgement that the actor's performance is defensible? Consider this; we've seen the same things here, but I'm not crying out against it. As I said, everybody is complaining about something in such a vague manner and then failing to explain what was so bad about it. When we eventually get responses, it's usually some crap like "people don't act like that in an Alien movie".
Except, you're not reserving judgement in one respect. You're being defensive against those that do raise an opinion against the film.
Really, the only thing I've been defensive of is LMG's acting job from what little we've seen (and yes, I'll assess that right after this), and Damon Lindelof. The attacks on these two I've found disappointingly unsupported so far. Anything else... I just watch fly by my eyes with disappointment as they get lost in horrific clouds of expectation and over-analysis. :laugh:
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 04:57:25 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
If you're willing to make the claim that he sounded hammy, you'd best be prepared to explain what sounded hammy about it.
As I and others have stated. I didn't believe his performance. He sounded off. He sticks out both visually and in his performance as a whole. This isn't the only clip we've seen of him, either. We've seen several bits of his performance, and with each of them, as Cvalda said, he's gotten worse.
For instance, the bits of him during the briefing felt... Like they were being read. Instead of a genuine sense of excitement(something Noomi is doing far better, she's got a child-like glee to her character) it just sounds like he's running an infomercial. He's a little too over pronounced in his mannerisms is part of the problem. A Shatnerian quality to it.
Luckily for me, this is exactly what I thought the complaint would be about.
You know in trailers where people start sounding disjointed, or as you so aptly called "Shatnerian"? Those are edit points, where people chop up entire dialogue fragments to grab the viewer/listener faster. Remember Janek's awkward sounding "Kill--EVERYTHING"? There's one right there. I'll bet my bottom dollar right here that there is more dialogue or even an expanded exchange in the actual film. Just about every action movie (to fit the fast pace) or raunchy comedy (to make "appropriate for all viewers") has these moments in their trailers. It sounds awkward, definitely, but it's a shame to see the actors catching so much flak for this.
To point out exactly where there's were in LMG's dialogue...:
[International trailer]
"These are--IMAGES", came off sounding particularly strange, but you can tell that there is more between this. It's usually when the actor/actress' mouth isn't shown too. There're probably more of these edits from the same part (considering he's doing a large presentation, and it's doubtful that he'd be rushing along at this pace), but they're much more elegantly done.
[Featurette]
"Woo! Come on! You ready to do this--I KNOW YOU ARE."
It not only sounds cut up (and again, there could be more than that), but it even sounds sped up, too. Also, LMG's mouth stops moving (when we finally see this) right at the edit point.
I really do hate getting all anal about this, but it's definitely part of my case.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 04:57:25 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
Consider the words we've heard him say, and then consider what was in the script; as you said, "What matters is the nuances of the script, and the actor's ability to translate that into a solid performance", so consider, where was the weakness in his delivery? I'm not asking of a step by step break down on the art of acting, I'm asking you to tell me what was so "hammy" in his words and why you think that it's been such a deviation from the character you imagine he's supposed to be.
I'll have to say, read what I just wrote above. I think that summarizes my problems pretty solidly. He lacks elements of subtlety, and the way he speaks the words does not really indicate to me a sincerity. David, Vickers, Shaw, Fifield, and Janek all convey a better sense of verisimilitude than he does.
I see where you're coming from with those clarified points, but keeping the sound/voice edits in mind, it kind of removes that from the equation.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 04:57:25 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
I may sound like I've got some rough edges, OpenMaw, but really I'm just trying to get some answers out of this gentleman's quarrel.
It's okay, sweeps. I still love you. :)
<3
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 04:57:25 AM
It's okay, sweeps. I still love you. :)
<3
Spoiler
Are you two gonna start making out now?
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...and can I watch?
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Just kidding! :D...
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Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 27, 2012, 05:31:45 AM
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Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 04:57:25 AM
It's okay, sweeps. I still love you. :)
<3
Spoiler
Are you two gonna start making out now?
Spoiler
...and can I watch?
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Just kidding! :D...
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Hey, hey, no! Hands off, OpenMaw!
He's mine.
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 27, 2012, 05:31:45 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 27, 2012, 04:28:01 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 04:57:25 AM
It's okay, sweeps. I still love you. :)
<3
Spoiler
Are you two gonna start making out now?
Spoiler
...and can I watch?
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Just kidding! :D...
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Quote from: SpaceMarines on Apr 27, 2012, 05:33:52 AM
Hey, hey, no! Hands off, OpenMaw!
He's mine.
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It's not just for the griping that I come to these boards.
It's for the hours of quality entertainment.
<3
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Quote from: SpaceMarines on Apr 27, 2012, 05:33:52 AM
Hey, hey, no! Hands off, OpenMaw!
He's mine.
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Saw him first.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 03:21:42 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 09:21:03 PM
How about this; f**k what it looks like and read his character bio in the Empire Magazine article, come back here, and tell me that his excitement is out of character. The scene we're discussing here is before anything bad goes down, you'd think horrific events would change a g--
Hey, Space Sweeper, I say this with as much respect as possible because I do in fact find your insight very interesting but uh, how about you chill out? You've got this agressiveness going on that's very unhealthy. :)
Yes, I read the article. I give it very little credance, as i've read dozens of those for countless other film and TV projects. Honestly, forget what a magazine says, or what interviews say. Often what the text says about a character turns out to be completely off the wall.
Of his final Bond outing, in response to fans questioning the realism of James Bond, Pierce Brosnan said that "Die Another Day" would be one of the most grounded and realistic Bond films. It turned out to be a nasty CGI mess.
In a magazine article on Star Trek Voyager, it was said that "Neelix" was going to be their breakout character. "Combining the charms of Odo and Quark from DS9." He turned out to be one of the most annoying characters to ever disgrace Star Trek. It was arguably The Doctor who turned out to be the shows break out character, and absolutely Seven of Nine who turned the show around several seasons in. There's a reason SFDebris has a "stupid Neelix moment" in all his Voyager reviews.
Just because a characters description is given in a magazine does not mean he will play out that way when he's exposed to an audience. Depending entirely on the way he's played, and what stays in the movie, you can get a completely different performance when compared to the concept.
So, once again, going by what we've seen of him in trailers and the clips. He comes off as hammy, and unbelievable. That is in contrast to the very talented cast he's got all around him.
So, yes, from what we've seen of him thus far. I can say his performance sucks. Why that bothers you, I don't honestly know. It's not even trashing Prometheus, it's trashing one shoddy actor's performance because he sucks when you compare him to the entire AMAZING ensemble we have for this movie. A sub-par actor sticks out far more when he's surrounded by really good actors.
Again, I shouldn't have to repeat this, but this is going by "What we have seen THUS FAR" maybe you're right and the rest of the movie will somehow explain his oddball performances, but I seriously doubt it.
Really, I want to know, why do some of you get so upset that some of us have detracting remarks? I belive some of us have even said we're still really friggin' excited for the movie.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 11:10:38 AM
How about you guys see the movie first or better yet actually look in to who the character is supposed to be before throwing shit around. It's all available out there.
This is a discussion thread in the twilight of speculation on a movie about to be released. Why don't you relax? What the Hell is wrong with people having opinions based on the media we've seen that you have to be so defensive over a character in a movie YOU have yet to see either? Okay, fine, you don't see the ham in the clips of him we've seen? That's fine. But follow your own advice. You haven't seen the movie, either. Why don't you reserve the judgement that this actors performance is even defensible?
Because if all of us reserved judgement, and kept our opinions and first impressions to ourselves there wouldn't be a need for a discussion forum on this site to begin with!
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 11:10:38 AM
I guess asking for an articulate response was a little too much. Don't get me wrong, I like Hudson and I think Paxton did a great job, but if you didn't have any bias attached to the classic Aliens and it was coming out in this day and age, you'd have the exact same problem with Hudson that you do with Halloway. And there's not a single doubt in my mind that Halloway will be a less giddy character than Hudson; he's a thrill seeking scientist with a thirsted determination to uncover our greatest mysteries. Hey, maybe you don't need to look at that Empire article now.
You keep marrying written concept and final performance together. A short snippet about a character written for a magazine, or a blurb used repeatedly in interviews does not actually mean a damn. What matters is the nuances of the script, and the actor's ability to translate that into a solid performance.
The actor playing Holloway sounded completely HAMMY in his delivery. It has nothing to do with what he's supposed to be, it's the fact that he completely misses that sense of believability entirely. As some people have said "I don't believe him." It's not because we don't get what he's trying to play. It's that we can SEE that he's trying to play something to begin with. An actor's performance should be invisible. Do you disagree with that?
^
Yes !
He's unbelievable and unconvincing, he just LOOKS and SOUNDS like he's
trying to act a part................and failing.
Still dont quite understand why they'd put, in amongst all that heavyweight talent, such an amateurish C-lister, in such a visible and prominent role ??!!!...........purely for eye candy ?!
I watched the International trailer again and oh my god it bugs me so much with the "Director of Blade Runner and Gladiator" quote. Why the hell isn't Alien there instead of Gladiator!!
Behold! THE STAR BEAST!!
Quote from: Sigglas on Apr 27, 2012, 11:22:46 PM
I watched the International trailer again and oh my god it bugs me so much with the "Director of Blade Runner and Gladiator" quote. Why the hell isn't Alien there instead of Gladiator!!
Huh? what
Quote from: Sigglas on Apr 27, 2012, 11:22:46 PM
I watched the International trailer again and oh my god it bugs me so much with the "Director of Blade Runner and Gladiator" quote. Why the hell isn't Alien there instead of Gladiator!!
Alien is the first one they show.
There is a somewhat humorous thing in the trailer.
When fifield asks "from whom?"
It cuts to "From the director of..."
It kinda made me chuckle on rewatching it. It's like yeah, the real message is from RIDLEY SCOTT. He's gonna kill em all. :D
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 30, 2012, 01:44:17 PM
There is a somewhat humorous thing in the trailer.
When fifield asks "from whom?"
It cuts to "From the director of..."
It kinda made me chuckle on rewatching it. It's like yeah, the real message is from RIDLEY SCOTT. He's gonna kill em all. :D
Lol, that's true.
Quote from: JKS1 on Apr 27, 2012, 07:47:52 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 03:21:42 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 09:21:03 PM
How about this; f**k what it looks like and read his character bio in the Empire Magazine article, come back here, and tell me that his excitement is out of character. The scene we're discussing here is before anything bad goes down, you'd think horrific events would change a g--
Hey, Space Sweeper, I say this with as much respect as possible because I do in fact find your insight very interesting but uh, how about you chill out? You've got this agressiveness going on that's very unhealthy. :)
Yes, I read the article. I give it very little credance, as i've read dozens of those for countless other film and TV projects. Honestly, forget what a magazine says, or what interviews say. Often what the text says about a character turns out to be completely off the wall.
Of his final Bond outing, in response to fans questioning the realism of James Bond, Pierce Brosnan said that "Die Another Day" would be one of the most grounded and realistic Bond films. It turned out to be a nasty CGI mess.
In a magazine article on Star Trek Voyager, it was said that "Neelix" was going to be their breakout character. "Combining the charms of Odo and Quark from DS9." He turned out to be one of the most annoying characters to ever disgrace Star Trek. It was arguably The Doctor who turned out to be the shows break out character, and absolutely Seven of Nine who turned the show around several seasons in. There's a reason SFDebris has a "stupid Neelix moment" in all his Voyager reviews.
Just because a characters description is given in a magazine does not mean he will play out that way when he's exposed to an audience. Depending entirely on the way he's played, and what stays in the movie, you can get a completely different performance when compared to the concept.
So, once again, going by what we've seen of him in trailers and the clips. He comes off as hammy, and unbelievable. That is in contrast to the very talented cast he's got all around him.
So, yes, from what we've seen of him thus far. I can say his performance sucks. Why that bothers you, I don't honestly know. It's not even trashing Prometheus, it's trashing one shoddy actor's performance because he sucks when you compare him to the entire AMAZING ensemble we have for this movie. A sub-par actor sticks out far more when he's surrounded by really good actors.
Again, I shouldn't have to repeat this, but this is going by "What we have seen THUS FAR" maybe you're right and the rest of the movie will somehow explain his oddball performances, but I seriously doubt it.
Really, I want to know, why do some of you get so upset that some of us have detracting remarks? I belive some of us have even said we're still really friggin' excited for the movie.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 11:10:38 AM
How about you guys see the movie first or better yet actually look in to who the character is supposed to be before throwing shit around. It's all available out there.
This is a discussion thread in the twilight of speculation on a movie about to be released. Why don't you relax? What the Hell is wrong with people having opinions based on the media we've seen that you have to be so defensive over a character in a movie YOU have yet to see either? Okay, fine, you don't see the ham in the clips of him we've seen? That's fine. But follow your own advice. You haven't seen the movie, either. Why don't you reserve the judgement that this actors performance is even defensible?
Because if all of us reserved judgement, and kept our opinions and first impressions to ourselves there wouldn't be a need for a discussion forum on this site to begin with!
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 11:10:38 AM
I guess asking for an articulate response was a little too much. Don't get me wrong, I like Hudson and I think Paxton did a great job, but if you didn't have any bias attached to the classic Aliens and it was coming out in this day and age, you'd have the exact same problem with Hudson that you do with Halloway. And there's not a single doubt in my mind that Halloway will be a less giddy character than Hudson; he's a thrill seeking scientist with a thirsted determination to uncover our greatest mysteries. Hey, maybe you don't need to look at that Empire article now.
You keep marrying written concept and final performance together. A short snippet about a character written for a magazine, or a blurb used repeatedly in interviews does not actually mean a damn. What matters is the nuances of the script, and the actor's ability to translate that into a solid performance.
The actor playing Holloway sounded completely HAMMY in his delivery. It has nothing to do with what he's supposed to be, it's the fact that he completely misses that sense of believability entirely. As some people have said "I don't believe him." It's not because we don't get what he's trying to play. It's that we can SEE that he's trying to play something to begin with. An actor's performance should be invisible. Do you disagree with that?
^
Yes !
He's unbelievable and unconvincing, he just LOOKS and SOUNDS like he's trying to act a part................and failing.
Still dont quite understand why they'd put, in amongst all that heavyweight talent, such an amateurish C-lister, in such a visible and prominent role ??!!!...........purely for eye candy ?!
Yeah... judging from spliced together dialogue is definitely the way to go. *thumbs up*
I've seen Logan play a WW2 POW, the on-edge, mysterious mechanic (who turns out to be more than what he seems), a psychotic sociopath and the undercover cop that you're never really sure what side he's on. I thought he was good in all of those. And seeing as he always gets good reviews for his theatre work and even for Devil, I'm not too worried about how his performance is going to be in Prometheus just because his delivery of a couple of lines sound a bit iffy, and like the above poster said seem cut off and spliced together with other lines. I'm also not going to judge him because he doesn't have a long list of movie credits and he happens to be good-looking (wtf). Apparently all scientists are ugly, middle-aged guys with snaggle teeth. :laugh:
If I was going by iffy dialogue, I would say Noomi is questionable too because of her "If we don't stop it..." line they've used a number of times and with different takes. The one they used for the recent international trailer sounds really off and I hope they don't use it for the final cut. But I'm not going to judge her because, like I said, they use different takes and splice the dialogue together. Anyway, that's my two cents. We haven't even heard and barely seen the rest of the cast (Chance, Millburn, Ravel, mercs, Ford, old Weyland) and yet LMG is the weakest link. ???
Actually I remember everyone moaning about how bad Guy Pearce was when the TEDTalk video came out and how he was a "hammy actor", then about Idris and his accent, Noomi and her accent, now Charlize is a flat actress and the Space Jockeys run too weird or they're not big enough or they're too humanoid looking or they're this and they're that. NOBODY CAN WIN. Dang.
...Yeah. Other people have said other things, and have expressed their opinions.
Honestly, the only thing that bugged me up to this point was LMG's acting. Everyone else is fine in my book.
Also? For anyone who has had something to say against a particular actor, there have been just as many people ready to defend them. The whole hammy Weyland debate, I felt myself agreeing with those saying he played it perfect.
Quote from: brodels_nazz on Apr 30, 2012, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: JKS1 on Apr 27, 2012, 07:47:52 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2012, 03:21:42 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 09:21:03 PM
How about this; f**k what it looks like and read his character bio in the Empire Magazine article, come back here, and tell me that his excitement is out of character. The scene we're discussing here is before anything bad goes down, you'd think horrific events would change a g--
Hey, Space Sweeper, I say this with as much respect as possible because I do in fact find your insight very interesting but uh, how about you chill out? You've got this agressiveness going on that's very unhealthy. :)
Dam sooooooooooooooo right ;D
Yes, I read the article. I give it very little credance, as i've read dozens of those for countless other film and TV projects. Honestly, forget what a magazine says, or what interviews say. Often what the text says about a character turns out to be completely off the wall.
Of his final Bond outing, in response to fans questioning the realism of James Bond, Pierce Brosnan said that "Die Another Day" would be one of the most grounded and realistic Bond films. It turned out to be a nasty CGI mess.
In a magazine article on Star Trek Voyager, it was said that "Neelix" was going to be their breakout character. "Combining the charms of Odo and Quark from DS9." He turned out to be one of the most annoying characters to ever disgrace Star Trek. It was arguably The Doctor who turned out to be the shows break out character, and absolutely Seven of Nine who turned the show around several seasons in. There's a reason SFDebris has a "stupid Neelix moment" in all his Voyager reviews.
Just because a characters description is given in a magazine does not mean he will play out that way when he's exposed to an audience. Depending entirely on the way he's played, and what stays in the movie, you can get a completely different performance when compared to the concept.
So, once again, going by what we've seen of him in trailers and the clips. He comes off as hammy, and unbelievable. That is in contrast to the very talented cast he's got all around him.
So, yes, from what we've seen of him thus far. I can say his performance sucks. Why that bothers you, I don't honestly know. It's not even trashing Prometheus, it's trashing one shoddy actor's performance because he sucks when you compare him to the entire AMAZING ensemble we have for this movie. A sub-par actor sticks out far more when he's surrounded by really good actors.
Again, I shouldn't have to repeat this, but this is going by "What we have seen THUS FAR" maybe you're right and the rest of the movie will somehow explain his oddball performances, but I seriously doubt it.
Really, I want to know, why do some of you get so upset that some of us have detracting remarks? I belive some of us have even said we're still really friggin' excited for the movie.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 11:10:38 AM
How about you guys see the movie first or better yet actually look in to who the character is supposed to be before throwing shit around. It's all available out there.
This is a discussion thread in the twilight of speculation on a movie about to be released. Why don't you relax? What the Hell is wrong with people having opinions based on the media we've seen that you have to be so defensive over a character in a movie YOU have yet to see either? Okay, fine, you don't see the ham in the clips of him we've seen? That's fine. But follow your own advice. You haven't seen the movie, either. Why don't you reserve the judgement that this actors performance is even defensible?
Because if all of us reserved judgement, and kept our opinions and first impressions to ourselves there wouldn't be a need for a discussion forum on this site to begin with!
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Apr 26, 2012, 11:10:38 AM
I guess asking for an articulate response was a little too much. Don't get me wrong, I like Hudson and I think Paxton did a great job, but if you didn't have any bias attached to the classic Aliens and it was coming out in this day and age, you'd have the exact same problem with Hudson that you do with Halloway. And there's not a single doubt in my mind that Halloway will be a less giddy character than Hudson; he's a thrill seeking scientist with a thirsted determination to uncover our greatest mysteries. Hey, maybe you don't need to look at that Empire article now.
You keep marrying written concept and final performance together. A short snippet about a character written for a magazine, or a blurb used repeatedly in interviews does not actually mean a damn. What matters is the nuances of the script, and the actor's ability to translate that into a solid performance.
The actor playing Holloway sounded completely HAMMY in his delivery. It has nothing to do with what he's supposed to be, it's the fact that he completely misses that sense of believability entirely. As some people have said "I don't believe him." It's not because we don't get what he's trying to play. It's that we can SEE that he's trying to play something to begin with. An actor's performance should be invisible. Do you disagree with that?
^
Yes !
He's unbelievable and unconvincing, he just LOOKS and SOUNDS like he's trying to act a part................and failing.
Still dont quite understand why they'd put, in amongst all that heavyweight talent, such an amateurish C-lister, in such a visible and prominent role ??!!!...........purely for eye candy ?!
Yeah... judging from spliced together dialogue is definitely the way to go. *thumbs up*
I've seen Logan play a WW2 POW, the on-edge, mysterious mechanic (who turns out to be more than what he seems), a psychotic sociopath and the undercover cop that you're never really sure what side he's on. I thought he was good in all of those. And seeing as he always gets good reviews for his theatre work and even for Devil, I'm not too worried about how his performance is going to be in Prometheus just because his delivery of a couple of lines sound a bit iffy, and like the above poster said seem cut off and spliced together with other lines. I'm also not going to judge him because he doesn't have a long list of movie credits and he happens to be good-looking (wtf). Apparently all scientists are ugly, middle-aged guys with snaggle teeth. :laugh:
If I was going by iffy dialogue, I would say Noomi is questionable too because of her "If we don't stop it..." line they've used a number of times and with different takes. The one they used for the recent international trailer sounds really off and I hope they don't use it for the final cut. But I'm not going to judge her because, like I said, they use different takes and splice the dialogue together. Anyway, that's my two cents. We haven't even heard and barely seen the rest of the cast (Chance, Millburn, Ravel, mercs, Ford, old Weyland) and yet LMG is the weakest link. ???
Actually I remember everyone moaning about how bad Guy Pearce was when the TEDTalk video came out and how he was a "hammy actor", then about Idris and his accent, Noomi and her accent, now Charlize is a flat actress and the Space Jockeys run too weird or they're not big enough or they're too humanoid looking or they're this and they're that. NOBODY CAN WIN. Dang.
I doubt that Ridley would have taken on Marshall-Green if he wouldn't be able to handle the role. From what I've seen, I think everyone is doing a fantastic job.
please... the link to download the new trailer?
Quote from: Lord Freezer on May 01, 2012, 01:07:42 PM
please... the link to download the new trailer?
As you wish!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10954836/Prometheus%20-%20International%20Extended%20Launch%20Trailer%20-%20%5BFULL%20HD%5D.mp4 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10954836/Prometheus%20-%20International%20Extended%20Launch%20Trailer%20-%20%5BFULL%20HD%5D.mp4)
THANKS!!! ;D
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 01, 2012, 07:52:33 PM
Quote from: Lord Freezer on May 01, 2012, 01:07:42 PM
please... the link to download the new trailer?
As you wish!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10954836/Prometheus%20-%20International%20Extended%20Launch%20Trailer%20-%20%5BFULL%20HD%5D.mp4 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10954836/Prometheus%20-%20International%20Extended%20Launch%20Trailer%20-%20%5BFULL%20HD%5D.mp4)
Thanks OpenMaw
Damn that looks good !!!!
Is it me or is that video wicked choppy/laggy? I have a high-speed connection and its lagging like crazy.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on May 02, 2012, 02:24:09 PM
Is it me or is that video wicked choppy/laggy? I have a high-speed connection and its lagging like crazy.
Did you download it or play it through that player?
Quote from: KirklandSignature on May 02, 2012, 02:24:09 PM
Is it me or is that video wicked choppy/laggy? I have a high-speed connection and its lagging like crazy.
No problem here. download it and there will be no problem with it?
I guess, it wasn't posted before in this thread, so, if anyone is interested to enjoy the both two first tlailers stretched super slow up to 13 minutes each, you are welcome (Fascinating, I'd say!!! :P):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LqA1rHtapo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LqA1rHtapo#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i_g3zpOJmk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i_g3zpOJmk#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbIT6baNahU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbIT6baNahU#ws)
Also just saw a tv spot showcasing the R Rating
Looks like another actor was added to the cast in extremis.
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi47.tinypic.com%2Fsljr5g.jpg&hash=3afb73e86468278197e194a47f9acb67c803dfae)
;D
Quote from: JKS1 on Apr 26, 2012, 08:31:58 PM
Quote from: Kol on Apr 26, 2012, 03:24:11 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 26, 2012, 02:37:11 PM
Quote from: Kol on Apr 26, 2012, 02:11:55 PM
i think he will have an more important role, than people admit it.
What exactly does that have to do with his performance being kinda shoddy? If he does have this kind of issue with acting, then less of him will be better. I mean, if you agreed with that initial part, wouldn't you agree? Having him be more important with a bad performance is a bad thing.
playing a douchebag & superior-being-mutation in the same movie requires two different strands; two-types of acting, when it's indeed script-driven.
and in the end: the director decides how a actor represent his role.
i just guess that holloway is an unlikeable character.
i have no issue at all with an unlikeable character if hes well played
Ian holm in Alien as a perfect example: brilliant acting of the highest order
Brion James in Blade Runner - played his part perfectly - but i certainly didnt like the character
Burke in Aliens......need I go on ?
I dont hate LMG ....why would I ?....dont know the guy......but judging by his acting from what I've seen (and I'm not just talking the trailers clips, I checked out some of his other movie and TV roles as well)...he's C list at best.
Well yeah, Paul Reiser is a great actor ::)
Quote from: ace3g on May 09, 2012, 03:42:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbIT6baNahU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbIT6baNahU#ws)
Also just saw a tv spot showcasing the R Rating
A new shot of the space jockey
Quote from: Gash on May 09, 2012, 09:52:42 PM
Quote from: JKS1 on Apr 26, 2012, 08:31:58 PM
Quote from: Kol on Apr 26, 2012, 03:24:11 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 26, 2012, 02:37:11 PM
Quote from: Kol on Apr 26, 2012, 02:11:55 PM
i think he will have an more important role, than people admit it.
What exactly does that have to do with his performance being kinda shoddy? If he does have this kind of issue with acting, then less of him will be better. I mean, if you agreed with that initial part, wouldn't you agree? Having him be more important with a bad performance is a bad thing.
playing a douchebag & superior-being-mutation in the same movie requires two different strands; two-types of acting, when it's indeed script-driven.
and in the end: the director decides how a actor represent his role.
i just guess that holloway is an unlikeable character.
i have no issue at all with an unlikeable character if hes well played
Ian holm in Alien as a perfect example: brilliant acting of the highest order
Brion James in Blade Runner - played his part perfectly - but i certainly didnt like the character
Burke in Aliens......need I go on ?
I dont hate LMG ....why would I ?....dont know the guy......but judging by his acting from what I've seen (and I'm not just talking the trailers clips, I checked out some of his other movie and TV roles as well)...he's C list at best.
Well yeah, Paul Reiser is a great actor ::)
Next to LMG Paul Reiser is Brando, Olivier and De Niro all rolled into one
Anyone watch tonight's episode of The Tonight Show with Jay Leno? Guest is Charlize Theron, and they showed a quick clip from Prometheus with Vickers confronting David.
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on May 24, 2012, 06:52:27 AM
Anyone watch tonight's episode of The Tonight Show with Jay Leno? Guest is Charlize Theron, and they showed a quick clip from Prometheus with Vickers confronting David.
:o
Thanks for the heads up!
Does anybody else find movie trailer voice man's voice to be just flipping ridiculous? He just cracks my shit up every time.
So bloody sinister sounding, that must be what Michael Bay sounds like on the phone.
Quote from: aliennaire on May 07, 2012, 06:07:55 PM
I guess, it wasn't posted before in this thread, so, if anyone is interested to enjoy the both two first tlailers stretched super slow up to 13 minutes each, you are welcome (Fascinating, I'd say!!! :P):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LqA1rHtapo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LqA1rHtapo#ws)
Longtime lurker with a first post (be gentle). I had a chance to watch these slowed-down trailers and I think there may be info used to dispel common notions fans have formed. I've already seen it been discussed that trailers can be edited in such a fashion as to be misleading from what actually happens in the movie. I think that the scene with Captain Janek screaming does
not immediately precede the Prometheus crashing into the Juggernaut. Take a look at the first trailer at about 8 min 13 seconds. Watch the co-pilot over Janek's left shoulder. He begins to raise his arm-- not in a defensive gesture ("No! Not in the face!") but in like a celebratory "woo!". I know it's weird that he'd be screaming in that manner over something jubilant (maybe the crew makes a find and the team is stoked about it) and I do agree the Prometheus crashes into the Juggernaut at some point; just find it odd that the copilot would be raising his arm like a fist pump instead of bracing himself for imminent impact.
Another thing that came to mind while watching these trailers: When Shaw says "They're changing..." and Vickers replies "Into what?", it sounds like most people are assuming the murals themselves are changing. Like a wall that shifts into a slideshow. If you watch the slowed-down trailers it doesn't look like the walls shift. I think what the team is seeing is more practical, like hieroglyphs on a wall. Shaw is actually looking at this when she remarks "They're changing".
Yes, I know this is over-analyzing things but I'm bored and this board makes for a great past-time. :)
If it's not the mural changing, what else could it be? The contents of the eggs they find?
Quote from: RagingDragon on May 25, 2012, 08:12:40 AM
Does anybody else find movie trailer voice man's voice to be just flipping ridiculous? He just cracks my shit up every time.
So bloody sinister sounding, that must be what Michael Bay sounds like on the phone.
I wish I could sound like him.
Honey, could you scramble me some eggs? DADDY'S HUNGRY.
The search for my car keys, could lead under the bed!
This summer; We're going to Disney Land.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 27, 2012, 03:22:57 PM
If it's not the mural changing, what else could it be? The contents of the eggs they find?
I think it's the picture within the mural
depicting a change. For example, 1st picture is of a humanoid. 2nd picture is the same humanoid but now hunched over with extra appendages. 3rd picture is humanoid fully transformed into a giant squid monster.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 27, 2012, 08:28:12 PM
Quote from: RagingDragon on May 25, 2012, 08:12:40 AM
Does anybody else find movie trailer voice man's voice to be just flipping ridiculous? He just cracks my shit up every time.
So bloody sinister sounding, that must be what Michael Bay sounds like on the phone.
I wish I could sound like him.
Honey, could you scramble me some eggs? DADDY'S HUNGRY.
The search for my car keys, could lead under the bed!
This summer; We're going to Disney Land.
Ahf**k so funny. :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgMUYlDz4uc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgMUYlDz4uc#)
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 27, 2012, 08:28:12 PM
Quote from: RagingDragon on May 25, 2012, 08:12:40 AM
Does anybody else find movie trailer voice man's voice to be just flipping ridiculous? He just cracks my shit up every time.
So bloody sinister sounding, that must be what Michael Bay sounds like on the phone.
I wish I could sound like him.
Honey, could you scramble me some eggs? DADDY'S HUNGRY.
The search for my car keys, could lead under the bed!
This summer; We're going to Disney Land.
I'm pretty sure his name is Alan Bleviss, if you're interested.