It's basically a better quality version of the previously seen trailer. Recorded in a movie theatre I'd guess.
http://thefilmstage.com/trailer/teaser-for-ridley-scotts-prometheus-trailer-arriving-thursday/ (http://thefilmstage.com/trailer/teaser-for-ridley-scotts-prometheus-trailer-arriving-thursday/)
SPACE JOCKEY HEAD.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
mirror (http://www.mediafire.com/?24rva6ih04gxxh1)
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All I can say is WOW!!!!! ;D
Wow......I am soooo looking forward to this! 8)
Yeah it really does look just great.
Now lets hope it is great.
SPACE JOCKEY HEAD WOOOOOOO YEAH
And Mutation confirmed!
And it's another (mutated?) crew member that is dropping on the flamethrower guy.
Thanks for the link!
Looks like someone on the right is watching the pilot seat rising ^^
I'm becoming more and more inclined to say that the humans will not only have their guts perfored but that some of them might become or give birth to gods themselves...
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 02:11:31 AM
And Mutation confirmed!
And it's another (mutated?) crew member that is dropping on the flamethrower guy.
Thanks for the link!
Looks like someone on the right is watching the pilot seat rising ^^
I'm becoming more and more inclined to say that the humans will not only have their guts perfored but that some of them might become or give birth to gods themselves...
I wouldn't say mutation is confirmed. The jumping guy didn't look mutated.
I saw the guy on the right watching the chair rise though.
Thanks for the link.
Great to see the SJ head there in the 'infirmary' shot.
The crashing SJ ship looks just amazing. This trailer has everything I would want from an ALIEN prequel (er..despite it not being one).
I CAN SEE ALIEN 'DNA'!!!!!!!!!
It's not a Space Jockey head. It's looks too different to be one of those. It does, however, seem to be very like whatever it is we saw the two female characters examining on the floor, in the pictures.
Might be a stylised statue of one, but it's not a Jockey head.
Very NICE!!! ;D :o :'( :laugh:
Are there any aliens/xenomorph in this movie? ???
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There it is.
THERE. IT IS.
Oh god that only makes me more excited for the HD version come Thursday. :o
Quote from: tmjhur on Dec 21, 2011, 02:19:16 AM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 02:11:31 AM
And Mutation confirmed!
And it's another (mutated?) crew member that is dropping on the flamethrower guy.
Thanks for the link!
Looks like someone on the right is watching the pilot seat rising ^^
I'm becoming more and more inclined to say that the humans will not only have their guts perfored but that some of them might become or give birth to gods themselves...
I wouldn't say mutation is confirmed. The jumping guy didn't look mutated.
I saw the guy on the right watching the chair rise though.
Well to me it is.
Seeing a human having a seizure while his skin is reacting weirdly seems like mutation to me but it could the burn caused by acid. As for the jumping guy he has the same hairstylist as the half burned bad bald make up thingie^^
It confirms what i tought was happening in that scene, guy's mutated jump on the flamethower guy in main hangar, get flamethrowed while running outside... Well since the flmathrower is wearing his helmet and the other not he must have a reason for being able to breath outside...
Well we will in HD but i'm ready to bet i'm right, its the same guy.
As for the jockey head or rather Engineers helmet, first it's clearly one, maybe a more streamlined one like the pilot seat that is different to the original one from ALIEN.
But whats again weird is its size.
Not way much bigger than a human helmet...
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 21, 2011, 02:22:37 AM
It's not a Space Jockey head. It's looks too different to be one of those. It does, however, seem to be very like whatever it is we saw the two female characters examining on the floor, in the pictures.
Might be a stylised statue of one, but it's not a Jockey head.
You are joking right.
It can be seen in 1080p here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDCzFnQ_gJ0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDCzFnQ_gJ0#ws)
Quote from: alanwu1233 on Dec 21, 2011, 02:28:19 AM
Are there any aliens/xenomorph in this movie? ???
According to Ridley Scott... no.
Like other people here I'm starting to think the Xenomorphs are not the only life form that breeds via parasitic methods. Could explain why the Space Jockey's and Xenomorphs have a similar physical appearance.
Quote from: tmjhur on Dec 21, 2011, 02:32:44 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 21, 2011, 02:22:37 AM
It's not a Space Jockey head. It's looks too different to be one of those. It does, however, seem to be very like whatever it is we saw the two female characters examining on the floor, in the pictures.
Might be a stylised statue of one, but it's not a Jockey head.
You are joking right.
the idea of a stylized statue could explain the size of it.
But i doubt it.
The Enginner body/suit on the floor of the ampule room seemed to plasticky, not stone like.
i dont see mutation, it looks like an acid burn on that guys face, its probably the guy from the smoking helmet i think.
the spacesuit guy being jumped on is confirmed, i dont know what people were seeing in that shot when watching the other trailer but i think a few people may need some eye testing or a new computer screen lol.
it would also appear that the head v egg debate is now busted as i would bet that the infirmary head is the object they were looking at on the ampule floor near the body.....
thanks
rich
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 21, 2011, 02:36:59 AM
i dont see mutation, it looks like an acid burn on that guys face, its probably the guy from the smoking helmet i think.
the spacesuit guy being jumped on is confirmed, i dont know what people were seeing in that shot when watching the other trailer but i think a few people may need some eye testing or a new computer screen lol.
thanks
rich
Agree on both points. The thing being jumped on always looked like a spacesuit, to me. Why are some people so insistent that there is mutation? Looks like the effects of alien acid.
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I saw the Space Jockey, AND the derelict space craft from the original movie in the leaked Trailer!!
They were seeing a Space jockey jumped by a xeno.
But i would not mock anybody at this point even if old habits die hard...
As for mutation, lol what can i say, you have a guy with a bubble head jumping from high ground like kangoroo jack (and lets not forget the fact that he is on a green screen platform that is from what his movement are is there to make him look like he's jumping) getting flamthrowed and another who has a seizure will stuff happens to his skin wich do not really look like burns...
Whatever.
When it will be proven that it's mutation, "So what?! We all knew it month before!"::)
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 02:35:24 AM
Quote from: tmjhur on Dec 21, 2011, 02:32:44 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 21, 2011, 02:22:37 AM
It's not a Space Jockey head. It's looks too different to be one of those. It does, however, seem to be very like whatever it is we saw the two female characters examining on the floor, in the pictures.
Might be a stylised statue of one, but it's not a Jockey head.
You are joking right.
the idea of a stylized statue could explain the size of it.
But i doubt it.
The Enginner body/suit on the floor of the ampule room seemed to plasticky, not stone like.
Even then it's highly doubtful it would get put on what looks like a medical examination bed if it were stone.
It's a creature for sure, which one is anyone's guess.
thans for the mirrors JaaayDee, just had to mess and download on pc then copy to my ps3 cos i spend most time on ps3 lol.
thanks
rich
I just crossed over and saw the light at the end of the vagina shaped tunnel.
Never noticed but is that Ripley with her head back?? (as in a nod to alien)
Also I think Theron is part of the two scenes, one when she's running taking her clothes off and the other when she collapses on her knee's.
You mean upside down?
It's Rapace.
She do have the same jaw or head form that ressemble Weaver.
As for the character on his knee no way to know who is it.
But i was right about the people in white robes...
As for the Theron getting inside an escape pod, i think that the way she looks in the close up it's a safe bet.
I'm curious about what the big disc thing is overtop of the waterfall shot.....
The previews of a preview and official stills have been great, but it was this trailer, both leaked and now in some higher quality, that really raised the hairs on the back of my neck and gets the adrenaline rushing.
f**k it.
I guess I was wrong about the jockey skull...
Just noticed that the "serpent" scene is missing. Guess we won't see what the creature looks like until Thursday (hopefully).
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 21, 2011, 03:02:18 AM
I'm curious about what the big disc thing is overtop of the waterfall shot.....
lol, i was gonna post about that, it looks like a scene from the old tv show V,or independence day with big round ufos !!
thanks
rich
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 21, 2011, 03:02:18 AM
I'm curious about what the big disc thing is overtop of the waterfall shot.....
Beginning of time on Earth.
Fits the description of one of the test trailer where a voice over says something like "First there was the sun" and we see this giant oval alien ship covering the sky. Voice over " And the sun said I'm alone and I have noone to shinedown on so it created man"
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 21, 2011, 03:10:03 AM
Just noticed that the "serpent" scene is missing. Guess we won't see what the creature looks like until Thursday (hopefully).
what serpent scene are you refering to? as people keep mentioning a serpent but i never saw it in either of the leaked trailers, that may just be down to bad quality vids but i honestly didnt see it, could you sceen cap it please?
thanks
rich
OMG! Space Jockey head (helmet?) at the 32-second mark! No way! OUTSTANDING! Sir Ridley FTW! ;D
hmmm
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I see strands of "Alien" in it. :)
This looks amazing. I absolutely love the tone, music and atmosphere of this movie. It 'bleeds' ALIEN. Looks genuinely creepy as well. Can't wait!!
I actually won't be too upset if this does turn out to be an Alien Prequel. It looks magnificient!
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 21, 2011, 03:02:18 AM
I'm curious about what the big disc thing is overtop of the waterfall shot.....
Could be an alien ship coming to earth to terraform it. Plant the seed of life??!?
whats with the little bird graphic at the beginning?
I don't really see any evidence of the "mutation" that people here are talking about. The closest thing I've seen so far is a guy's helmet crack open and then he suddenly grabs his head as it blackens. I always assumed that was due to some sort of acid and high pressure in a hostile environment or something and never really thought of it as a mutation before. :-\
Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 21, 2011, 03:17:25 AM
hmmm
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The guy standing at "S". Is that a human?
Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 21, 2011, 03:25:49 AM
whats with the little bird graphic at the beginning?
It's the logo for Scott Free Productions.
The bird is SCOTT FREE Logo.
About the mutation,
mostly it came from the weird guy with the bubble head jumping all around and getting torched.
The seizuring could be just acid burns, but if you look closely you can see that something is happening to his skin not only burns.
It seems it's changing...
Well i'm betting on the mutation horse ^^
Quote from: higherprimate on Dec 21, 2011, 03:23:12 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 21, 2011, 03:02:18 AM
I'm curious about what the big disc thing is overtop of the waterfall shot.....
Could be an alien ship coming to earth to terraform it. Plant the seed of life??!?
Yeah, pretty much my thought. :D
Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 21, 2011, 03:25:49 AM
whats with the little bird graphic at the beginning?
"Scott Free Productions" logo.
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:o 8)
This Jockey ship must tumble over, as we see in the footage of Shaw etc running away. In the shot above you can see fire and smoke plumes, which seems to match the black rocky fields that Rapace traverses as the ship falls behind them.
Theory, of course.
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Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 21, 2011, 03:17:25 AM
hmmm
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The guy standing at "S". Is that a human?
oh shit, didn't even notice that
Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 21, 2011, 03:34:37 AM
Quote from: TWAK on Dec 21, 2011, 03:27:23 AM
Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 21, 2011, 03:17:25 AM
hmmm
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The guy standing at "S". Is that a human?
oh shit, didn't even notice that
Noticed a "person" there, but gave no thought to if it is a human in particular. Looks to be bald to me. No other discerning features, except what looks to be a prominent jaw line and very angular face? *shrug*
looks like hes pulling a lever for the chair. engineer maybe?
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 21, 2011, 03:33:34 AM
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g425/mrmagoo6/Untitled-1.png
:o 8)
This Jockey ship must tumble over, as we see in the footage of Shaw etc running away. In the shot above you can see fire and smoke plumes, which seems to match the black rocky fields that Rapace traverses as the ship falls behind them.
Theory, of course.
maybe the humans tried to steal it but put it in reverse gear instead of first. :laugh:
thanks
rich
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 21, 2011, 03:33:34 AM
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g425/mrmagoo6/Untitled-1.png
:o 8)
This Jockey ship must tumble over, as we see in the footage of Shaw etc running away. In the shot above you can see fire and smoke plumes, which seems to match the black rocky fields that Rapace traverses as the ship falls behind them.
Theory, of course.
Yeah, looks like something happens to it in the air, it crashes ass first somehow, then topples.
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 21, 2011, 03:39:36 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 21, 2011, 03:33:34 AM
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g425/mrmagoo6/Untitled-1.png
:o 8)
This Jockey ship must tumble over, as we see in the footage of Shaw etc running away. In the shot above you can see fire and smoke plumes, which seems to match the black rocky fields that Rapace traverses as the ship falls behind them.
Theory, of course.
Yeah, looks like something happens to it in the air, it crashes ass first somehow, then topples.
The Space Jockey obviously had a few too many, and forgot to engage the inertial dampeners.
Jeez, you walk away from the com for one minute and look what happens! Big ups to the AVPG staff, you folk are a bit of awright ;)
-Chris
I was wrong (so wrong ^^) the starmap room IS the room that houses the pilot chair.
The starmap room console platform opens and the chair comesout of it.
Whoever is the character on the right (original Engineer, reborn engineer or mutated human), he's not a regular sized human.
Take for reference the human seen on the console of the starmap room in the hologram shot.
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oh noes...... do i spy the red 3 point predator aiming lasers at 32 to 33 seconds????????????
8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D
thanks
rich
The CGI has been changed too. Specially the one involving the Derelict. It looks much less silver and clean. Also the explosions and the shot showing the vehicles driving in the "desert" which looks narrower.
I will be in a 12 h flight tomorrow and the only thing I will think about is to watch the trailer as soon as I place a foot on ground! Damm!
This looks amazing. And no cheesy CGI around!
Have a safe flight buddy ;)
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 02:11:31 AM
Looks like someone on the right is watching the pilot seat rising ^^
Man i got good eyes and great deduction skillz ;D ;D ;D ;D
2 thoughts:
1. Perhaps the "map" is activated, you select your destination, the chair pops up, you jump in it, shoop your cannon penis out the ship windows and bam traveling to destination.
2. That guy in the right, vs. the chairs scale... yep, he's fairly tall. (If you assume the chair is the same size/scale as the one in Alien)
Quote from: deuterium on Dec 21, 2011, 03:45:15 AM
The Space Jockey obviously had a few too many, and forgot to engage the inertial dampeners.
Can't blame those crazy alien dudes. Space Jockey brew is extra strong and has a pleasing aftertaste. No wonder the Company bothered to travel so far, they want a nice cold mug of space brew.
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I think the bald guy in the right side could just be an optical illusion.
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 21, 2011, 03:56:17 AM
2 thoughts:
1. Perhaps the "map" is activated, you select your destination, the chair pops up, you jump in it, shoop your cannon penis out the ship windows and bam traveling to destination.
2. That guy in the right, vs. the chairs scale... yep, he's fairly tall. (If you assume the chair is the same size/scale as the one in Alien)
Yep definitly that.
The leak that talked about the head before anyone else said that the cannon chair opens wormwholes.
Just look at the size of the human in the middle of the hologram.
The chair and the room is massive.
Juste like the one from ALIEN.
But again how come that Engineer's helmet and dead body/suit in the ampule room is so small and those corridors leading to that starmap/pilot room are also small.
Size shapeshifters? Would look a bit cheesy no?
Dunno...
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 21, 2011, 03:58:42 AM
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I think the bald guy in the right side could just be an optical illusion.
In the video he's moving... Well we will see in the HD teaser but i bet my money on it.
Great observation Engineer 1, but there is a possibility for the size difference due to perspective. But it's definitely the same room.
I like the chair we see, because it has the sort of cup for the jockey's head. It's empty, but probably not for long...
Maybe the size difference is due to the "extra" head size being really part of the chair. Just a guess.
My bet is that this tall guy on the right of the chair is an Engineer, and that he is the guy inside the "space jockey" suit.
This would be highly disapointing really...I want the space jockey to be a...well, a "creature" not just Sinead O´Connor..
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 03:54:42 AM
Have a safe flight buddy ;)
Thxs. ;)
Thanks, but i'm not the first one who said it was the same room.
Somebody said it in the first look thread but now we are sure ;)
Doubt perspective could be the cause.
Also look at the massive back of the chair in front of the console and compare it to the human in the middle.
But yeah an extra size is added with the pilot chair itself but even with that the human look tiny on that console and will be near the pilot chair.
I like how the "cannon" part and seat part seem to be "connected" tilted toward each other then they deploy to get to the full position.
so do you think this is the trailer we will be getting on itunes Thursday?
If its some sort of humanoid creature I'm fine with that, but I really do want a creature of sort out of all of this. It doesn't have to be the Jockey, but something otherworldly.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 21, 2011, 04:16:04 AM
If its some sort of humanoid creature I'm fine with that, but I really do want a creature of sort out of all of this. It doesn't have to be the Jockey, but something otherworldly.
I think we will get another monster in the same vein as the xeno.
As for this Engineer, i'm sure there's more to him than just being find on the planet...
-Mutated humans (or artificial humans) that becomes Engineers gods after having toyed with the genetic material find in the ampules and all the knowledge tha comes with it.
-Engineers with their memories intact reborn from human hosts.
Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 21, 2011, 04:14:22 AM
so do you think this is the trailer we will be getting on itunes Thursday?
most likely but lets all hope we get a slightly different one!.
thanks
rich
Maybe it's Ripley from A3 who has come to torment ALIEN fans. ;D
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Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 02, 2011, 12:11:37 AMI made this to backup my observation. Thanks to the person that enlarged the picture in first place.
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Biomechanoid20 WINS! Someone give that guy a cookie. 8)
-Chris
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 21, 2011, 04:17:32 AM
Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 21, 2011, 04:14:22 AM
so do you think this is the trailer we will be getting on itunes Thursday?
most likely but lets all hope we get a slightly different one!.
thanks
rich
I thought I read somewhere that 2 trailers were reviewed. either way im stoked
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 21, 2011, 04:20:08 AM
Maybe it's Ripley from A3 who has come to torment ALIEN fans. ;D
http://thebaldandthebeautiful.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/ripley4.jpg
When she fell into fire the travelled trough time and met with the xenos maker who took her for a ride and then they meet up with the Prometheus crew and its payback time for all those Weyland Yutani suits ^^
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 04:22:28 AM
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 02, 2011, 12:11:37 AMI made this to backup my observation. Thanks to the person that enlarged the picture in first place.
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee395/ChrisPachi/biomechan.jpg
Biomechanoid20 WINS! Someone give that guy a cookie. 8)
-Chris
Great eyes and great artskillz!
This guy is a keeper.
I hope you'll share with us other fanarts like the Engineer you did.
:)
Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 21, 2011, 04:22:37 AM
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 21, 2011, 04:17:32 AM
Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 21, 2011, 04:14:22 AM
so do you think this is the trailer we will be getting on itunes Thursday?
most likely but lets all hope we get a slightly different one!.
thanks
rich
I thought I read somewhere that 2 trailers were reviewed. either way im stoked
we actually saw two, well about 10 seconds of a different one to the current one, it had someone jumping over a big gap.
its rumoured that there were 3 being reviewed but i have no idea how true that is!.
im not certain but i think this trailer is very slightly different to the main leaked one we all watched , im sure there's a couple of different scenes although it may just look different due to the quality but i dont have the other now so cant do a side by side check!.
thanks
rich
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 21, 2011, 04:29:32 AMim not certain but i think this trailer is very slightly different to the main leaked one we all watched
This new one seems to be slowed down a bit from the leaked version.
-Chris
I will wait for the HD version this Thursday. I hate watching trailers through a cam recorder.
well the leaked one was definitely different than this one, that's why I'm hoping for a different one thursday
and seems they took the feedback of the misspelling of it's under advisement
The shot just after the Jockey head shows some bright red orbs flying past a crew member who is watching them in wonderment. Pretty interesting shot, it doesn't look like human tech, whatever it is.
Spoiler
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Just wondering as it hasn't been brought up yet as far as I know and it's
very different from everything else we've seen and speculated on so far. It certainly stands out from the rest of the trailer, which is pretty much what we have been expecting.
Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 21, 2011, 04:48:14 AMand seems they took the feedback of the misspelling of it's under advisement
The whole tag line has been re-worded. I personally like the new version better.
-Chris
Looking at the whole selection of frames, it kinda looks like a "scifi laser scan thing" - but you're right - he looks kind of amazed so it makes you wonder if they are the ones doing some kind of scan/surveyance... but would jockeys use laser ball things? I'm thinking probably not...? ???
It's a helmet, not a skull...and the body in the ampule is the suit, not the Jockey....just my 2 cents.
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 21, 2011, 05:02:25 AMLooking at the whole selection of frames, it kinda looks like a "scifi laser scan thing" - but you're right - he looks kind of amazed so it makes you wonder if they are the ones doing some kind of scan/surveyance... but would jockeys use laser ball things? I'm thinking probably not...? ???
I was thinking that maybe the crew member in frame is hallucinating, as the crew member behind them (the one crouching down) doesn't seem to notice.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 21, 2011, 05:03:07 AMIt's a helmet, not a skull...and the body in the ampule is the suit, not the Jockey....just my 2 cents.
Make that 4 cents. :)
-Chris
i wonder about that big round thing above the waterfall.the thing they driving towards in the desert seems to be the prometheus. and i'm a little bit dissapointed about the small size of that space jockey head they are examining.it id bigger then the head of the chick standing next to it,but seems smaller than the one in alien
and there is a shot at 0:19.seems like something,a ship is coming out of the clouds if you watch closely righ in the center,it's very small. but they don't look exactly like clouds,they seem to be to low compared to the landscape in the background
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Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 04:55:25 AM
The shot just after the Jockey head shows some bright red orbs flying past a crew member who is watching them in wonderment. Pretty interesting shot, it doesn't look like human tech, whatever it is.
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Just wondering as it hasn't been brought up yet as far as I know and it's very different from everything else we've seen and speculated on so far. It certainly stands out from the rest of the trailer, which is pretty much what we have been expecting.
Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 21, 2011, 04:48:14 AMand seems they took the feedback of the misspelling of it's under advisement
The whole tag line has been re-worded. I personally like the new version better.
-Chris
i mentioned it earlier joking that it was predator aiming lasers as at one point it looks like 3 lasers forming a triangle reticule like the preds!.
thanks
rich
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 21, 2011, 05:03:07 AM
It's a helmet, not a skull...and the body in the ampule is the suit, not the Jockey....just my 2 cents.
Probably right, unfortunately
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 21, 2011, 05:05:45 AMi mentioned it earlier joking that it was predator aiming lasers
I must've missed it. Whenever I read the word 'predator' in this forum I go cross-eyed. ;D
-Chris
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 21, 2011, 05:02:25 AM
Looking at the whole selection of frames, it kinda looks like a "scifi laser scan thing" - but you're right - he looks kind of amazed so it makes you wonder if they are the ones doing some kind of scan/surveyance... but would jockeys use laser ball things? I'm thinking probably not...? ???
yes, it reminded me of how they did this...
http://www.digitalsurveys.co.uk/mont-orgueil/ (http://www.digitalsurveys.co.uk/mont-orgueil/)
thanks
rich
Guys....that's the cloud/stream/trail of a ship entering the orbit of whatever planet they've reached...that's all.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 05:07:59 AM
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 21, 2011, 05:05:45 AMi mentioned it earlier joking that it was predator aiming lasers
I must've missed it. Whenever I read the word 'predator' in this forum I go cross-eyed. ;D
-Chris
lol, i think that happens to everyone cos nobody answered me! haha.
they probably thought i was just trolling and didn't look!
thanks
rich
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Looks like they've landed on a particular fantasy world where Dragonborns are traveling around doing chores and drinking potions. :P
The alien world is everything I thought it would be, it looks almost dreamlike. I'm gonna love this film! :-*
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 21, 2011, 05:13:09 AM
Guys....that's the cloud/stream/trail of a ship entering the orbit of whatever planet they've reached...that's all.
look closely over the cloud. it's a big ass mountain
Gah! I'm so excited but the secrecy is killing me!
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 21, 2011, 05:15:21 AMLooks like they've landed on a particular fantasy world where Dragonborns are traveling around doing chores and drinking potions.
Oh no, Ridley Scott has caught the SKYRIM FLU! ;D
This poor sod is burning up bad, by either infection or some other god-awful thing. You can see the veins in his neck, and bubbles on his left cheek. My guess is that this is the guy with the burning helmet; the crew pull it off him and we see this.
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-Chris
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 05:32:31 AM
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 21, 2011, 05:15:21 AMLooks like they've landed on a particular fantasy world where Dragonborns are traveling around doing chores and drinking potions.
Oh no, Ridley Scott has caught the SKYRIM FLU! ;D
This poor sod is burning up bad, by either infection or some other god-awful thing. You can see the veins in his neck, and bubbles on his left cheek. My guess is that this is the guy with the burning helmet; the crew pull it off him and we see this.
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee395/ChrisPachi/burnin.jpg
-Chris
i also said he was the man in the smoking helmet earlier ! ! lmao, great minds and all that!.
thanks
rich
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 21, 2011, 05:39:35 AMi also said he was the man in the smoking helmet earlier ! ! lmao, great minds and all that!.
Damn, LOL. Ok I admit it, it wasn't the predator comment; I just see "Posted by: RICH-ENGLAND" and go cross-eyed. ;)
-Chris
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 05:42:59 AM
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 21, 2011, 05:39:35 AMi also said he was the man in the smoking helmet earlier ! ! lmao, great minds and all that!.
Damn, LOL. Ok I admit it, it wasn't the predator comment; I just see "Posted by: RICH-ENGLAND" and go cross-eyed. ;)
-Chris
damn! are us english really hated that much? hahahaha.
thanks
rich
Quote from: alanwu1233 on Dec 21, 2011, 02:28:19 AM
Are there any aliens/xenomorph in this movie? ???
Allegedly not.
Quote from: tmjhur on Dec 21, 2011, 02:32:44 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 21, 2011, 02:22:37 AM
It's not a Space Jockey head. It's looks too different to be one of those. It does, however, seem to be very like whatever it is we saw the two female characters examining on the floor, in the pictures.
Might be a stylised statue of one, but it's not a Jockey head.
You are joking right.
No. The front's too flat, for one thing - also, too large. Compare it to the original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDRLtgr2T9E#noexternalembed-ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDRLtgr2T9E#noexternalembed-ws)
Unless they've decided to retcon the Space Jockey to look different for a 'new generation of film-goers' (which I can't see a production involving Scott and Giger doing), I say that thing's something else.
At 00:23, as the bay door drops and 2 "atvs" and an 8-wheel vehicle drive out, is that the Alien Temple/Ship in the background? It looks like it has a "shark fin" shape on the top and is much to level to be naturally occurring - in my opinion. Someone did some wonderful captures and I was wondering what you all thought??
this thing does raise a couple more questions... if this is a jockey head, then wouldn't scanning it in a medlab and wearing rubber gloves etc rule out the jockeys being a man in a suit as surely if its just a helmet that would be unnecessary ???.
next thought is that if this isn't a jockey then maybe there's humanoid creatures that wear suits to look like real jockeys for some odd reason, maybe that could explain the size difference between the body in the picture and the jockey in alien?.
thanks
rich
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 21, 2011, 06:05:40 AM
this thing does raise a couple more questions... if this is a jockey head, then wouldn't scanning it in a medlab and wearing rubber gloves etc rule out the jockeys being a man in a suit as surely if its just a helmet that would be unnecessary ???.
next thought is that if this isn't a jockey then maybe there's humanoid creatures that wear suits to look like real jockeys for some odd reason, maybe that could explain the size difference between the body in the picture and the jockey in alien?.
thanks
rich
If it's a biological suit, it's still some kind of tissue... I sure as hell would want some gloves :laugh:.
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 21, 2011, 05:46:10 AMdamn! are us english really hated that much? hahahaha.
I'm Australian, so I'm kinda ambivalent. ;)
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 21, 2011, 06:05:40 AM
this thing does raise a couple more questions... if this is a jockey head, then wouldn't scanning it in a medlab and wearing rubber gloves etc rule out the jockeys being a man in a suit as surely if its just a helmet that would be unnecessary ???.
Could be just precaution, as it is an alien 'artifact' after all. But the promo stills of it on the ground show it looking very 'gooey' or slimy. If it is indeed bio mechanical then the medlab/rubber gloves thing makes sense IMO.
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 21, 2011, 06:05:40 AMnext thought is that if this isn't a jockey then maybe there's humanoid creatures that wear suits to look like real jockeys for some odd reason, maybe that could explain the size difference between the body in the picture and the jockey in alien?.
Oooh, this is good idea! Gods and demi-gods... it fits IMO.
-Chris
My anticipation is out of this world! I saw ALIEN when I was 7 years old and it launched my curiosity about what might be out there. ALIEN was elegant, dark, terrifying, wondrous, suspenseful.... something tells me Sir Ridley is about to do it again!!!
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 06:11:57 AM
I'm Australian...
Wait a minute... I just realised, us folk down under are going to get the trailer release on Friday... I'll be in a car travelling to rellies for christmas... noooooooo!
Also, I hope there is no "pretend jockey" :-\
Damn i really already see Vickers in the end getting mutated to be compatible to this SJ suit or just become that creature sitting in this chair and sending a message "I was so wrong blablah...", starting with human voice but morphing into some kind of weird language in the final stage of the "mutation". Therefor Weyland picked up that signal...it was send by one of their members. I mean you see her all the time with something moving in her belly, this would be the chestburster...and would fit to this story as well since the SJ got killed by it.
And since Weyland always tried to use the Xenomorph as a weapon they may mess around with this biolocical goo and urns, f*cked it up and finally give birth to their own weapon.
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 21, 2011, 06:19:18 AM
Damn i really already see someone in the end getting mutated to be compatible to this SJ suit sitting in this chair and sending this signal that will be scrambled.
I'm finding it hard not to picture it as well. Whoever thought it up originally is a bad person! :laugh:
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 21, 2011, 06:20:31 AM
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 21, 2011, 06:19:18 AM
Damn i really already see someone in the end getting mutated to be compatible to this SJ suit sitting in this chair and sending this signal that will be scrambled.
I'm finding it hard not to picture it as well. Whoever thought it up originally is a bad person! :laugh:
i mentioned that our crew may be responsible for sending the signal thats eventually intercepted by the nostromo but got derided for it !. someone else came up with the crew jockey morphing idea but cant remember if it was ThisBethesdaSea or Engineer1.
thanks
rich
Epic of epic epicness 8)
The small 'Jockeys' are massively important and pretty much confirmed IMO: We can clearly see a smallish Jockey-like body/suit and a smallish Jockey-like head/helmet. We also have Ridley stating that what we see of the Jockey in Alien is a suit, not a skeleton. So whatever they are, they are real and will be part of the universe.
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 21, 2011, 06:19:18 AM
sending a message "I was so wrong blablah...", starting with human voice but morphing into some kind of weird language in the final stage of the "mutation"
I see that too... the infamous 'warning'. SOLD. But the size difference is troublesome. They couldn't possibly ignore such a detail?
-Chris
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 04:22:28 AM
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 02, 2011, 12:11:37 AMI made this to backup my observation. Thanks to the person that enlarged the picture in first place.
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee395/ChrisPachi/biomechan.jpg
Biomechanoid20 WINS! Someone give that guy a cookie. 8)
-Chris
Great comparison!
The bed head also reminds me a lot of the embryo in Kane's scan. The embryo has immense eyes and tiny "beak", but it resembles the bed head more than a burster or Xeno.
Size...jeah, i've got a theorie on that but first:
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Who are all those people on this image?
Person on the left, looks like some kind of business dress (let's say some kind of Weyland operative) so i guess this doensn't happen during their deep space journey...
Quote from: dembones on Dec 21, 2011, 06:48:44 AMGreat comparison!
Not mine, it was spotted by and then deftly drawn by
biomechaniod20. A lot of members, including myself, scoffed at it, but it turns out that he was exactly on the money. Come to think of it, a little
too on the money... we have a MOLE! ;)
@
biomechaniod20, could you have a go at the David/Urn/Goo image? ;D
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 21, 2011, 06:58:01 AMWho are all those people on this image?
I always had the impression that there are a lot of people on the Prometheus. The number of crew that we see exploring the 'establishment' is pretty small, but the cast list is quite long; much longer than Alien. IMO Weylan cronies are there on the planet and our 'heroes' will be a small group in conflict with both the unnamed threat and the Company.
-Chris
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 21, 2011, 06:58:01 AM
Size...jeah, i've got a theorie on that but first:
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Who are all those people on this image?
Person on the left, looks like some kind of business dress (let's say some kind of Weyland operative) so i guess this doensn't happen during their deep space journey...
Weyland
guy woman in "business atire" (shadowed).
Noomi on right hand side.
Fassbender in chair.
Not sure on the left person being blocked by the suit person...
Looks like a female body in a business dress.
OMG i forgot about Lindelof. We create thousands of theories, one sounds better than the other but like with LOST...in the end it's just the most obvious and/or boring solution. The SJ is a form of human evolution including bio-tech and such stuff (a billion years in the future), there will be timetravel and we created ourselves...nice paradox, logical? Who the f*ck cares :laugh:
I don't thing that head is to small.. compared with the original...it looks even bigger
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Amazing, cannot wait until the real deal arrives tomorrow.
I particularly like the shot of a ship descending onto a planet, with the clouds and mountains. Looks awesome.
Quote from: atlantis on Dec 21, 2011, 07:26:37 AM
I don't thing that head is to small.. compared with the original...it looks even bigger
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Huh.. good point.
Guess we were just looking with rose coloured glasses....
Although, the shape looks off... original is not as spherical... but then again original is "fossilised"... so I guess the extra spherical shape of the one on the medlab table is just jockey-meat.
So are the Xenopmorphs weaponized humans? That's why they got a human skull inside?
The Jockeys drop Alien DNA on a planet to create these weapons that clear the planet for them?
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 21, 2011, 08:39:14 AM
So are the Xenopmorphs weaponized humans? That's why they got a human skull inside?
The Jockeys drop Alien DNA on a planet to create these weapons that clear the planet for them?
Then why not just drop bombs on them instead.... ???
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 21, 2011, 06:19:18 AM
Damn i really already see Vickers in the end getting mutated to be compatible to this SJ suit or just become that creature sitting in this chair and sending a message "I was so wrong blablah...", starting with human voice but morphing into some kind of weird language in the final stage of the "mutation". Therefor Weyland picked up that signal...
Nice theory, I really love it :-)
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 04:12:47 AM
Thanks, but i'm not the first one who said it was the same room.
Somebody said it in the first look thread but now we are sure ;)
Doubt perspective could be the cause.
Also look at the massive back of the chair in front of the console and compare it to the human in the middle.
But yeah an extra size is added with the pilot chair itself but even with that the human look tiny on that console and will be near the pilot chair.
It was me, who stated that in the neighbour thread ;D Anyway, I'm glad it's now sorted out! But I can see, why you were assuming, that there were two different places with platform - the human's figure, standing in the centre of the 3D holographic, image has to be extremely tall lest the platform seems small. Maybe it's the same humanoid being, which was spotted under the "S" letter or another, but both appear to exceed the ordinary human height.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 21, 2011, 05:52:20 AM
Quote from: tmjhur on Dec 21, 2011, 02:32:44 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 21, 2011, 02:22:37 AM
It's not a Space Jockey head. It's looks too different to be one of those. It does, however, seem to be very like whatever it is we saw the two female characters examining on the floor, in the pictures.
Might be a stylised statue of one, but it's not a Jockey head.
You are joking right.
No. The front's too flat, for one thing - also, too large. Compare it to the original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDRLtgr2T9E#noexternalembed-ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDRLtgr2T9E#noexternalembed-ws)
Unless they've decided to retcon the Space Jockey to look different for a 'new generation of film-goers' (which I can't see a production involving Scott and Giger doing), I say that thing's something else.
What if this head thing is to flat to be a real SJ's head, but suitable enough to become his helmet? When a creature (or somebody) wears it on, it attains the actual voluminous shape.
Summing up everything, hypothesized above, to get the well-known original Space Jockey in the derelict's chair, we need some crew member to grow quickly and in non-human way and then to don that hosed costume :-) (Even don't know, whether I'm joking or not this time) :)
Quote from: atlantis on Dec 21, 2011, 07:26:37 AM
I don't thing that head is to small.. compared with the original...it looks even bigger
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Agreed. I think they just updated/altered the Jockey design very slightly now that it's more of a focus in this film.
First leaked trailer rocked my socks, but this just does ... nothing. Even as just a sci-fi fan it doesn't make me wanna see it. ???
Even though they are the exact same thing?
Maybe it's because you've watched the leaked trailer too many times now? ???
I watched it twice. Then listened to the trailer music on repeat for the better part of a day.
That's why I threw in the confused face. I think being able to see certain shots better makes me like them less? I don't even know.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2011, 09:22:19 AM
I watched it twice. Then listened to the trailer music on repeat for the better part of a day.
That's why I threw in the confused face. I think being able to see certain shots better makes me like them less? I don't even know.
A true alien fan there. The less you know, the more you WANT. ;)
-Chris
You're probably being turned off by the unfinished CGI. There's still 6 months to go.
Here's a switch. How the frack did a ROAD get there?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee395%2FChrisPachi%2Faroad.jpg&hash=7f7f3f2f30774fcf96299461461f58d14a92909b)
-Chris
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 21, 2011, 09:00:14 AM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 21, 2011, 08:39:14 AM
So are the Xenopmorphs weaponized humans? That's why they got a human skull inside?
The Jockeys drop Alien DNA on a planet to create these weapons that clear the planet for them?
Then why not just drop bombs on them instead.... ???
They dont want a damaged planet?
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 21, 2011, 06:19:18 AM
Damn i really already see Vickers in the end getting mutated to be compatible to this SJ suit or just become that creature sitting in this chair and sending a message "I was so wrong blablah...", starting with human voice but morphing into some kind of weird language in the final stage of the "mutation". Therefor Weyland picked up that signal...it was send by one of their members. I mean you see her all the time with something moving in her belly, this would be the chestburster...and would fit to this story as well since the SJ got killed by it.
More or less where I'm seeing the ending going, certainly. Ever since Scott said 'jockey as spacesuit' I've been sure the one in 'our' derelict will be a human somehow. The bit where it raises up being the big reveal.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 03:49:02 AM
I was wrong (so wrong ^^) the starmap room IS the room that houses the pilot chair.
The starmap room console platform opens and the chair comesout of it.
Whoever is the character on the right (original Engineer, reborn engineer or mutated human), he's not a regular sized human.
Take for reference the human seen on the console of the starmap room in the hologram shot.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg402.imageshack.us%2Fimg402%2F4576%2Fstarmaproomispilotseatr.jpg&hash=58407864e02a1e2761970803c4399bf0d40ad8b1)
Baha I was right.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2011, 09:22:19 AM
I watched it twice. Then listened to the trailer music on repeat for the better part of a day.
That's why I threw in the confused face. I think being able to see certain shots better makes me like them less? I don't even know.
The whole crew mutation stuff is turning me off.
I hope it's something more than that.
Eh, I really like what I'm seeing. Still looking forward to the HD trailer though.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 09:35:56 AM
Here's a switch. How the frack did a ROAD get there?
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee395/ChrisPachi/aroad.jpg
-Chris
Hmmm good point...
So Ash made a mistake , the SJ race was not so good at all to leave a warning for foreigners....the one who left the message was a human (: but why? We know so far that the SJ's only want to wipe out the race of man because they are stealing from them...so they are not bad guys at all we do it every day....ohhh im a bit confused why someone just had to turn into a big ass monster to leave a message about a warning...who gives a crap if actually YOU are the bad guy?? Something is not clicking about this.
And Scott said its not related directly to the alien and to the derelict -.- wtf?
well, i guess now we know why there is a big bold head statue..
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 21, 2011, 05:15:21 AM
Quote from: zuzuki on Dec 21, 2011, 05:04:20 AM
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Looks like they've landed on a particular fantasy world where Dragonborns are traveling around doing chores and drinking potions. :P
I hate to say but its looks like the view where is the derelict was found just clouded... just look at the rocks ;) and probably the derelict is in the clouded place. So there is much more evidence that is an alien prequel what scott denies so hard.
And about the story...if there is a time travel in it...there is no point to find out the story because it will be some f*cked up shit for sure, maybe starting with the endiing and where everyone dies in the half of the movie and so on... ;D
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 21, 2011, 09:27:29 AM
You're probably being turned off by the unfinished CGI. There's still 6 months to go.
I don't think any of the CG in that trailer was bad or even noticeably unfinished my any means. Especially when compared to other recent movie trailers (
The Dark Knight Rises,
Wrath Of The Titans, Jack The Giant Killer,
G.I. Joe: Retaliation I'm looking at you!)
I just want there to be a real creature of some kind in the film. Not too fond of the idea that the Jockey race looks somewhat like us under that 'suit' and that some of the crew simply become infected and turn into 28 Days Later-ish zombies who chase after the rest of them. After seeing the leaping, crazed human, the humanoid by the Jockey chamber, and what looks to be an infection on the guy's neck, it's looking more and more like the story will devolve into this. This explanation of the Jockeys has already destroyed the compatibility of some good expanded universe stories, and I'm getting pretty worried that what was the most intriguing mystery of the Alien films will turn into into a laughable attempt to explain our creation that eventually becomes a space zombie movie. Might be heartbreaking if what was originally planned to be a true Alien prequel epic, was thrown out for this modestly budgeted, paranoid fear of mine.
The effects look fine in the trailers.
I think what's throwing me off is that so many exteriors are bright daylight shots.
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No duh.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2011, 10:49:44 AM
The effects look fine in the trailers.
I think what's throwing me off is that so many exteriors are bright daylight shots.
I see but if Ridley can still manage to make the tone of those scenes 'dark' and eerie, isn't that an achievement in itself? I mean in the context of their specific scenes and with the right music and/or sound effects couldn't a day scene potentially be
more frightening, as this is when we usually feel safer.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Dec 21, 2011, 10:48:25 AM
I just want there to be a real creature of some kind in the film. Not too fond of the idea that the Jockey race looks somewhat like us under that 'suit' and that some of the crew simply become infected and turn into 28 Days Later-ish zombies who chase after the rest of them. After seeing the leaping, crazed human, the humanoid by the Jockey chamber, and what looks to be an infection on the guy's neck, it's looking more and more like the story will devolve into this. This explanation of the Jockeys has already destroyed the compatibility of some good expanded universe stories, and I'm getting pretty worried that what was the most intriguing mystery of the Alien films will turn into into a laughable attempt to explain our creation that eventually becomes a space zombie movie. Might be heartbreaking if what was originally planned to be a true Alien prequel epic, was thrown out for this modestly budgeted, paranoid fear of mine.
Maybe the reason is that one of the characters mutated because "i dont know who" wants to "stole the knowledge" from the Gods....or the eggs ...maybe Vickers is the bad woman and Shaw is the good one...but as for now everything is "maybe" so lets wait til the end score of this film. ;)
Or there is no gods alive and Shaw gave birth to one of them via surgery ....wtf? xD
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 09:35:56 AM
Here's a switch. How the frack did a ROAD get there?
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee395/ChrisPachi/aroad.jpg
-Chris
Could this be continuing the ancient alien theme/Chariot of the Gods angle - "The ancient and mysterious Nazca Lines in the Nazca Desert in Peru" - alien markings that can be seen from space - possible runways?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2037850/Thousands-strange-Nazca-Lines-discovered-Middle-East.html#ixzz1hALz0dY7 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2037850/Thousands-strange-Nazca-Lines-discovered-Middle-East.html#ixzz1hALz0dY7)
Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Dec 21, 2011, 11:01:41 AM
I see but if Ridley can still manage to make the tone of those scenes 'dark' and eerie, isn't that an achievement in itself?
Sure. I'm just saying that aspect of the trailers isn't doing me any favours.
Yet.
Maybe its not the road but mark/track made by the landing ship ???
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 09:35:56 AM
Here's a switch. How the frack did a ROAD get there?
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee395/ChrisPachi/aroad.jpg
-Chris
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So do you think that is a 100% human? xD
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So do you think that is a 100% human? xD
He looks like the guy with the mohawk in the trailer preview video. Seeing how the serpent bit was cut out of the cam trailer I have a feeling they don't want us to see the beasts. At least not yet.
This scene where everyone has speculated for so long seems to match the dude who looks infected in the recent pics, see ?
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The way i know this is the mohican hair cut he has on the right pic which kind of matches the one on the left.
So looks like we may have a mad man on the lose aswell lol :P
Quote from: RidgeTop on Dec 21, 2011, 10:48:25 AM
I just want there to be a real creature of some kind in the film. Not too fond of the idea that the Jockey race looks somewhat like us under that 'suit' and that some of the crew simply become infected and turn into 28 Days Later-ish zombies who chase after the rest of them. After seeing the leaping, crazed human, the humanoid by the Jockey chamber, and what looks to be an infection on the guy's neck, it's looking more and more like the story will devolve into this. This explanation of the Jockeys has already destroyed the compatibility of some good expanded universe stories, and I'm getting pretty worried that what was the most intriguing mystery of the Alien films will turn into into a laughable attempt to explain our creation that eventually becomes a space zombie movie. Might be heartbreaking if what was originally planned to be a true Alien prequel epic, was thrown out for this modestly budgeted, paranoid fear of mine.
Yeah, I've been thinking along those lines too for a while now. Humans of the future warning humans of the past about their existance, their ability to create life which could wipe them both out if tampered with, but of course someone gets greedy. I'm also more certain than ever the Ampule Room urns contain either failed experiments or are simply specimens from other worlds, one of which gets loose so there you have your alien content...but still... this really does look like a run of the mill sci-fi the more I see of it... which is too much already!
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 09:35:56 AM
Here's a switch. How the frack did a ROAD get there?
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee395/ChrisPachi/aroad.jpg
-Chris
I'm assuming it's a track that the vehicles made when setting off from the ship... and this particular vehicle is returning down the track???
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So do you think that is a 100% human? xD
He looks like the guy with the mohawk in the trailer preview video. Seeing how the serpent bit was cut out of the cam trailer I have a feeling they don't want us to see the beasts. At least not yet.
Yep, looks like a moehawked guy to me too.
Quote from: Space Jockey King on Dec 21, 2011, 11:18:14 AM
This scene where everyone has speculated for so long seems to match the dude who looks infected in the recent pics, see ?
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The way i know this is the mohican hair cut he has on the right pic which kind of matches the one on the left.
So looks like we may have a mad man on the lose aswell lol :P
I think you are right... they are one and the same. And if this chap is attacking/jumping with the burns etc. it's easy to conclude that something else is going on i.e. he's not just burnt/injured.
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 21, 2011, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 21, 2011, 11:17:41 AM
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So do you think that is a 100% human? xD
He looks like the guy with the mohawk in the trailer preview video. Seeing how the serpent bit was cut out of the cam trailer I have a feeling they don't want us to see the beasts. At least not yet.
Yep, looks like a moehawked guy to me too.
or human cloned with angry gorilla :P
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Dec 21, 2011, 11:01:41 AM
I see but if Ridley can still manage to make the tone of those scenes 'dark' and eerie, isn't that an achievement in itself?
Sure. I'm just saying that aspect of the trailers isn't doing me any favours.
Yet.
Fair enough.
Quote from: matisian on Dec 21, 2011, 11:22:20 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 21, 2011, 11:19:10 AM
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So do you think that is a 100% human? xD
He looks like the guy with the mohawk in the trailer preview video. Seeing how the serpent bit was cut out of the cam trailer I have a feeling they don't want us to see the beasts. At least not yet.
Yep, looks like a moehawked guy to me too.
or human cloned with angry gorilla :P
Guys, just accept it THERE IS AN ACTUAL MUTATION IN THE MOVIE!!! ::) :P
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 03:49:02 AM
I was wrong (so wrong ^^) the starmap room IS the room that houses the pilot chair.
The starmap room console platform opens and the chair comesout of it.
Whoever is the character on the right (original Engineer, reborn engineer or mutated human), he's not a regular sized human.
Take for reference the human seen on the console of the starmap room in the hologram shot.
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My goodness, that's some good detective work. Well done.
I'd say that's our first glimpse of the engineer.
Quote from: Darth Vile on Dec 21, 2011, 11:22:03 AM
Quote from: Space Jockey King on Dec 21, 2011, 11:18:14 AM
This scene where everyone has speculated for so long seems to match the dude who looks infected in the recent pics, see ?
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The way i know this is the mohican hair cut he has on the right pic which kind of matches the one on the left.
So looks like we may have a mad man on the lose aswell lol :P
I think you are right... they are one and the same. And if this chap is attacking/jumping with the burns etc. it's easy to conclude that something else is going on i.e. he's not just burnt/injured.
And hes also attacking an astronaut as well, so this makes it even more interesting.
Quote from: Space Jockey King on Dec 21, 2011, 11:18:14 AM
This scene where everyone has speculated for so long seems to match the dude who looks infected in the recent pics, see ?
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The way i know this is the mohican hair cut he has on the right pic which kind of matches the one on the left.
So looks like we may have a mad man on the lose aswell lol :P
I hope it just is someone badly injured going psycho for whatever reason and not some lame human flesh craving 'the devils rejects' type mutated cannibal............I absolutely hate the thought of that
'The Hills Have Eyes' in space ??!!!!
Please...no no no no no !!!
Quote from: St_Eddie on Dec 21, 2011, 11:25:11 AM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 03:49:02 AM
I was wrong (so wrong ^^) the starmap room IS the room that houses the pilot chair.
The starmap room console platform opens and the chair comesout of it.
Whoever is the character on the right (original Engineer, reborn engineer or mutated human), he's not a regular sized human.
Take for reference the human seen on the console of the starmap room in the hologram shot.
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My goodness, that's some good detective work. Well done.
I'd say that's our first glimpse of the engineer.
"I'd say that's our first glimpse of the engineer."
If your on about the person on the right it looks more human than a alien being...
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 11:24:15 AM
Quote from: matisian on Dec 21, 2011, 11:22:20 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Dec 21, 2011, 11:19:10 AM
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Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 11:14:12 AM
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So do you think that is a 100% human? xD
He looks like the guy with the mohawk in the trailer preview video. Seeing how the serpent bit was cut out of the cam trailer I have a feeling they don't want us to see the beasts. At least not yet.
Yep, looks like a moehawked guy to me too.
or human cloned with angry gorilla :P
Guys, just accept it THERE IS AN ACTUAL MUTATION IN THE MOVIE!!! ::) :P
Im accepting this but I don't want to think that SJ is just a mutated human by some kind of alien virus
A problem though - mutated human from the preview video only has the blue suit, the guy in the trailer jumping clearly has the full "armor" on.
Hello
A newbie here although been watching for quite some time.
The trailer gives me goosebumps............the way the title appears just like Alien and also the way the space jockey seat spins up!
Cheers
Gary
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 21, 2011, 11:34:02 AM
A problem though - mutated human from the preview video only has the blue suit, the guy in the trailer jumping clearly has the full "armor" on.
Lets say that jumping scene was the first one than sth happened (they torched him with a flamethower or sth) and after that he is running away..
This is exciting.
Quote from: DJ Pu$$yface on Dec 21, 2011, 11:37:10 AM
This is exciting.
Like "the thing" mixed with "Event Horizon"
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 21, 2011, 11:34:02 AM
A problem though - mutated human from the preview video only has the blue suit, the guy in the trailer jumping clearly has the full "armor" on.
Because they are using CGI.
Cgi is used by using "blue suits" which makes it whole lot easier for them plus they can do what they want with it.
Quote from: matisian on Dec 21, 2011, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 21, 2011, 11:34:02 AM
A problem though - mutated human from the preview video only has the blue suit, the guy in the trailer jumping clearly has the full "armor" on.
Lets say that jumping scene was the first one than sth happened (they torched him with a flamethower or sth) and after that he is running away..
yupp thats right, its in the comicon teaser aswell!
SJs are not mutated, but related to human, remember? Humans are their childs, so they either give the knowledge to the human or humans either steal the knowledge from them and the side effect is that they will change to an advanced human and forget about the elephant look the SJ's are humanoids. This is what i guess.
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So do you think that is a 100% human? xD
Not enough pixels there to tell. Youtube demons here. It grows! It CHANGES!. It's called Motion JPEG. Horrifying.
-Chris
bah but its the same guy with the strange hair that in the 1st or 2nd teaser and his head is clearly mutated -.-
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 11:50:59 AM
Quote from: matisian on Dec 21, 2011, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 21, 2011, 11:34:02 AM
A problem though - mutated human from the preview video only has the blue suit, the guy in the trailer jumping clearly has the full "armor" on.
Lets say that jumping scene was the first one than sth happened (they torched him with a flamethower or sth) and after that he is running away..
yupp thats right, its in the comicon teaser aswell!
SJs are not mutated, but related to human, remember? Humans are their childs, so they either give the knowledge to the human or humans either steal the knowledge from them and the side effect is that they will change to an advanced human and forget about the elephant look the SJ's are humanoids. This is what i guess.
Im sure that humans steal it and now SJ's are preparing Aliens as a gods whip (scourge) ;D
Still bad quality footage,lets hope we see the HD one tomorrow.
Quote from: Effectz on Dec 21, 2011, 12:08:28 PM
Still bad quality footage,lets hope we see the HD one tomorrow.
Where have you been for the past week?
We obviously will.
LOL
Fox officially said it will be on the Apple trailers page Thursday.
Quote from: Effectz on Dec 21, 2011, 12:08:28 PM
Still bad quality footage,lets hope we see the HD one tomorrow.
Even though I saw it many times already I still can't wait to see it in HD ;D
Well,thats why i said tomorrow.
Quote from: matisian on Dec 21, 2011, 12:07:02 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 11:50:59 AM
Quote from: matisian on Dec 21, 2011, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 21, 2011, 11:34:02 AM
A problem though - mutated human from the preview video only has the blue suit, the guy in the trailer jumping clearly has the full "armor" on.
Lets say that jumping scene was the first one than sth happened (they torched him with a flamethower or sth) and after that he is running away..
yupp thats right, its in the comicon teaser aswell!
SJs are not mutated, but related to human, remember? Humans are their childs, so they either give the knowledge to the human or humans either steal the knowledge from them and the side effect is that they will change to an advanced human and forget about the elephant look the SJ's are humanoids. This is what i guess.
Im sure that humans steal it and now SJ's are preparing Aliens as a gods whip (scourge) ;D
Yes they are stealing from them you are right...because the title says PROMETHEUS :D
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 12:05:17 PMbah but its the same guy with the strange hair that in the 1st or 2nd teaser and his head is clearly mutated -.-
MIGHT be the same guy. And he MIGHT be mutated. It is interesting that he is not wearing a helmet while the person he is jumping onto is.
-Chris
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 12:18:18 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 12:05:17 PMbah but its the same guy with the strange hair that in the 1st or 2nd teaser and his head is clearly mutated -.-
MIGHT be the same guy. And he MIGHT be mutated. It is interesting that he is not wearing a helmet while the person he is jumping onto is.
-Chris
because he/she didn't had time to take it off ??
I'm very excited about the movie, but this "mutation/zombie" thing makes it a bit hillarious....I hope :fingers crossed: that it will be different than we thought today...
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 21, 2011, 12:26:09 PM
I'm very excited about the movie, but this "mutation/zombie" thing makes it a bit hillarious....I hope :fingers crossed: that it will be different than we thought today...
Maybe it want be just a simple "mutation" but the result of unsuccessful medical experiments made by SJ while trying to achieve an Alien form
Quote from: matisian on Dec 21, 2011, 12:30:48 PM
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 21, 2011, 12:26:09 PM
I'm very excited about the movie, but this "mutation/zombie" thing makes it a bit hillarious....I hope :fingers crossed: that it will be different than we thought today...
Maybe it want be just a simple "mutation" but the result of unsuccessful medical experiments made by SJ while trying to achieve an Alien form
Thats way too close to A:R territory for me
QuoteWhat if this head thing is to flat to be a real SJ's head, but suitable enough to become his helmet? When a creature (or somebody) wears it on, it attains the actual voluminous shape.
But the Jockey didn't wear any such thing in the chair. Also, the director is claiming, in interviews, that the Jockey
is the suit. Why would you wear one organic 'helmet' over the other? Unless you're thinking that this is meant to be like rubber and it doesn't give me that impression, at all.
If it
is meant to be the Jockey, I can't say I'm a fan of this version. It looks like a cartoon version of the more realistic original.
QuoteSumming up everything, hypothesized above, to get the well-known original Space Jockey in the derelict's chair, we need some crew member to grow quickly and in non-human way and then to don that hosed costume :-) (Even don't know, whether I'm joking or not this time) :)
Or not... Because if that's meant to be the big, supposedly amazing secret in this film, it's going to be a bit of a disappointment, no?
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 10:08:23 AM
So Ash made a mistake , the SJ race was not so good at all to leave a warning for foreigners....the one who left the message was a human (: but why?
Ash didn't claim any such thing. The Nostromo's computer, 'Mother', translated it to be such.
And we have
no idea if this film will have anything to do with the same derelict we saw in the original film. Others have pointed out that the gap of time would be too small for those fossilised remains to be all which are found.
Also, if it's mere decades apart, you're going to be left wondering why the derelict's Alien didn't just come after the Nostromo crew and paste them to the walls.
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 11:24:15 AM
Guys, just accept it THERE IS AN ACTUAL MUTATION IN THE MOVIE!!! ::) :P
I'm finding this idea less and less interesting, but have just figured out why... It would mean it's essentially the same as the plot to '
The Cave' and '
The Descent' and ended up making the creatures in them less intriguing as a result.
Watch those films, then watch '
Alien' and ask yourself which of the two seemed more frightening.
Personally, I think that if they make it a 'the monsters are us' thing, it's going to massively devalue Ash's famous speech and why it was so powerful. I know that these are meant to be different creatures, but if the original's story conveyed the message of how something
truly alien, in every way, was what made it powerful, then this could feel like the lesser product.
Ha! I got it!
The smaller SJ is the SJ and the bigger SJ is its suit.
So they basicly look the same on the inside and the outside!!!!!!
nah..seriously...
There were two different scales used while filming ALIEN.
Jockey:kids
Jockey:adults
I guess they settled for the Jockey:adults scale.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 12:18:18 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 12:05:17 PMbah but its the same guy with the strange hair that in the 1st or 2nd teaser and his head is clearly mutated -.-
MIGHT be the same guy. And he MIGHT be mutated. It is interesting that he is not wearing a helmet while the person he is jumping onto is.
-Chris
look http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=281&pid=18368#top_display_media (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=281&pid=18368#top_display_media)
what do you think who is in the flames? his helmet will be burned down
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 21, 2011, 12:37:49 PM
Quote
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 10:08:23 AM
So Ash made a mistake , the SJ race was not so good at all to leave a warning for foreigners....the one who left the message was a human (: but why?
Ash didn't claim any such thing. The Nostromo's computer, 'Mother', translated it to be such.
And we have no idea if this film will have anything to do with the same derelict we saw in the original film. Others have pointed out that the gap of time would be too small for those fossilised remains to be all which are found.
Also, if it's mere decades apart, you're going to be left wondering why the derelict's Alien didn't just come after the Nostromo crew and paste them to the walls.
he said in the book
This movie looks set to be a visual masterpiece at the very least. Almost every scene in that trailer is iconic.
I'm seriously excited now.
Xenomorphine....again, I don't follow. You insist that the alien creature itself can still be scary if utilized correctly, and then you suggest that human mutation will only be a let down because of its pervasive use throughout science fiction films? Why can it not be made fresh and new, unique and exciting in PROMETHEUS? If the alien can still be scary, so can mutation.
Quote from: LarsVader on Dec 21, 2011, 12:41:05 PM
nah..seriously...
There were two different scales used while filming ALIEN.
Jockey:kids
Jockey:adults
I guess they settled for the Jockey:adults scale.
i said that ages ago , like the idea of them being massive better , i do love how this trailer has done nothin but raise more questions then any actual answers, i do have the feeling tho that this film is not gonna be what alien fans are really after , i think if we take it as a stand alone film then it will probably be very enjoyable but to think of it as a prequel as sorts will leave most disappointed .
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 21, 2011, 12:37:49 PMAnd we have no idea if this film will have anything to do with the same derelict we saw in the original film. Others have pointed out that the gap of time would be too small for those fossilised remains to be all which are found.
Not sold on the gap of time. It is assumed by various characters that the derelict is old, but nothing about the derelict itself guarantees this idea. If the Space Jockey as we have seen was the skeletal remains of a fully fleshed out being, then thirty years dead in a chair could easily account for the 'corpse' that we see. The fact of it being fossilised is implied.
And now we have it from the horse's mouth that the Jockey that we know is a suit.
-Chris
who thinks mutation cant be upsetting its obvious you have not watched any movies that worth to mention
eg.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K11Zm8nenRg#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K11Zm8nenRg#ws)
and you get it wrong the mutant wont be a bad guy/monster imo just a victim
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 12:45:14 PMwhat do you think who is in the flames? his helmet will be burned down
You lost me there.
-Chris
P.S. Eeewwww @ The Fly 2
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 03:49:02 AM
I was wrong (so wrong ^^) the starmap room IS the room that houses the pilot chair.
The starmap room console platform opens and the chair comesout of it.
Whoever is the character on the right (original Engineer, reborn engineer or mutated human), he's not a regular sized human.
Take for reference the human seen on the console of the starmap room in the hologram shot.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg402.imageshack.us%2Fimg402%2F4576%2Fstarmaproomispilotseatr.jpg&hash=58407864e02a1e2761970803c4399bf0d40ad8b1)
This may be the jockey without the suit. and he looks a lot like the other photo with his hair and torn up suit standing in front of Ridley.
Quote from: St_Eddie on Dec 21, 2011, 11:25:11 AM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 03:49:02 AM
I was wrong (so wrong ^^) the starmap room IS the room that houses the pilot chair.
The starmap room console platform opens and the chair comesout of it.
Whoever is the character on the right (original Engineer, reborn engineer or mutated human), he's not a regular sized human.
Take for reference the human seen on the console of the starmap room in the hologram shot.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg402.imageshack.us%2Fimg402%2F4576%2Fstarmaproomispilotseatr.jpg&hash=58407864e02a1e2761970803c4399bf0d40ad8b1)
My goodness, that's some good detective work. Well done.
I'd say that's our first glimpse of the engineer.
You're welcome :)
Can't wait to see that in HD.
Quote from: Space Jockey King on Dec 21, 2011, 11:27:26 AM
"I'd say that's our first glimpse of the engineer."
If your on about the person on the right it looks more human than a alien being...
Well since the Head statue is supposed to be the Engineer it's no surprise no?
Also a part from his size, his face doesnt look completely human.
My bet since SDCC leaked image was Engineers = humanoids with Gigerian features.
Quote from: Space Jockey King on Dec 21, 2011, 11:18:14 AM
This scene where everyone has speculated for so long seems to match the dude who looks infected in the recent pics, see ?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg842.imageshack.us%2Fimg842%2F7795%2F45530168.jpg&hash=1ea7bb38e2e5997ad2180c15a51bf4d2ace38305)
The way i know this is the mohican hair cut he has on the right pic which kind of matches the one on the left.
So looks like we may have a mad man on the lose aswell lol :P
"Clearly" the same character that is jumping around and get flamethrowed.
He probably get get rid of whats left of his spacesuit later in the scene when he's in flames.
Again i definitly tought from day one that he is mutated but i really doubt that it will be the only threat in the movie.
I'm definitly expecting some sort of xeno that will come from the serpent/slug we've seen in the first leaked test trailer.
We know Shaw gets impreganted by something so that makes already 2 weird things happening, mutation and parasite.
I don't think both are linked,i rather think that the crew messes up big time with the genetic materials found in the urns glass ampules and get many f**k ups.
Like i said before my theories are that the Engineers in Prometheus are either infected/mutated humans or reborn from the human hosts (like Shaw instataneous pregnancy).
Quote from: atlantis on Dec 21, 2011, 07:26:37 AM
I don't thing that head is to small.. compared with the original...it looks even bigger
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2F5kg1et.jpg&hash=370bfc36bd3f609e2eb8a1a746209dea0847022d)
Well put.
Like LarsVader stated before they seem to go with the scale when when the actual actors were near the spacejockey, not when in the mastershot Scott used kids in suits to make the SJ look way much bigger.
That would explain why the corridors inside the Engineer's Temple/Ship are almost human sized.
Then again the human in suitin the middle of the Starmap/pilot room is really really small.
And the Engineer (or reborn Engineer, or Mutated human) on the right of the rising chair is clearly bigger than that human.
At first i tought that the Engineer were going to be human sized, the suit being some sort of powerloader, but now i think that the actual Engineers will be as tall as their suits.
To finish i don't think that the story will happen in a very short period of time.
I doubt they will land and hell breaks loose very fast like in ALIEN.
But that it will be weeks, month why not even years...
Quote from: Infected on Dec 21, 2011, 02:04:43 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 03:49:02 AM
I was wrong (so wrong ^^) the starmap room IS the room that houses the pilot chair.
The starmap room console platform opens and the chair comesout of it.
Whoever is the character on the right (original Engineer, reborn engineer or mutated human), he's not a regular sized human.
Take for reference the human seen on the console of the starmap room in the hologram shot.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg402.imageshack.us%2Fimg402%2F4576%2Fstarmaproomispilotseatr.jpg&hash=58407864e02a1e2761970803c4399bf0d40ad8b1)
This may be the jockey without the suit. and he looks a lot like the other photo with his hair and torn up suit standing in front of Ridley.
This is why i'm talking about mutated/infected humans that becomes Engineers (or human host).
Either we get humans (or artificial humans, remember misty eyed David from SDCC images, maybe the first step of his infection/mutation into a god) conscient of what they are doing having god complex or they are being taken over by the Engineers persona that is still active in the dna material that infect them.
Our gods being reborn trough us.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 21, 2011, 05:52:20 AM
Quote from: alanwu1233 on Dec 21, 2011, 02:28:19 AM
Are there any aliens/xenomorph in this movie? ???
Allegedly not.
Quote from: tmjhur on Dec 21, 2011, 02:32:44 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 21, 2011, 02:22:37 AM
It's not a Space Jockey head. It's looks too different to be one of those. It does, however, seem to be very like whatever it is we saw the two female characters examining on the floor, in the pictures.
Might be a stylised statue of one, but it's not a Jockey head.
You are joking right.
No. The front's too flat, for one thing - also, too large. Compare it to the original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDRLtgr2T9E#noexternalembed-ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDRLtgr2T9E#noexternalembed-ws)
Unless they've decided to retcon the Space Jockey to look different for a 'new generation of film-goers' (which I can't see a production involving Scott and Giger doing), I say that thing's something else.
Could be a different suit? Or a decapitated Jockey if it's not a suit (probably is a suit though).
Bare in mind though that it's missing the trunk/breathing apparatus. So it would obviously appear flatter.
Quote from: tmjhur on Dec 21, 2011, 02:33:37 PMCould be a different suit? Or a decapitated Jockey if it's not a suit (probably is a suit though). Bare in mind though that it's missing the trunk/breathing apparatus. So it would obviously appear flatter.
If it isn't our beloved Space Jockey then it's this guy:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee395%2FChrisPachi%2Findex2.jpg&hash=efc59674fb9a80f21d2ceb6a212f044adc93464d)
Yes, it is that guy.
-Chris
Quote from: tmjhur on Dec 21, 2011, 02:33:37 PM
Could be a different suit? Or a decapitated Jockey if it's not a suit (probably is a suit though).
Bare in mind though that it's missing the trunk/breathing apparatus. So it would obviously appear flatter.
Remember how the pilot chair is different from the one in ALIEN?
Maybe it's only because its in better state or from another class of Engineers.
The Engineers universe has been redesigned a bit. It's sleeker.
Since we will meet an active race/ship i don't mind that they reworked the designs a bit.
THE Engineer.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 02:43:58 PM
Quote from: tmjhur on Dec 21, 2011, 02:33:37 PMCould be a different suit? Or a decapitated Jockey if it's not a suit (probably is a suit though). Bare in mind though that it's missing the trunk/breathing apparatus. So it would obviously appear flatter.
If it isn't our beloved Space Jockey then it's this guy:
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee395/ChrisPachi/index2.jpg
Yes, it is that guy.
-Chris
Whats funny is that we had the design under our nose since day one lol
It's clearly what we are getting for a suited Engineer, save for some proportion details like the rib cage part.
It's this adapted to the SJ from ALIEN.
Btw the Engineer near the rising chair do look to have an elongated head ^^
Oh God that Space Jockey head.
Gimme this film naow
does anyone have image of this "serpant" thing everyone keeps talkin about ? i couldnt find the original leakedrailer anywhere
Maybe we wont see any space jockey's in it just messages from them and ampullas and the tutorial how to play god....or at least the humans think that.
Remember:
"The cast find an establishment which is not what they expect it to be. What we find in it: dangerous elements that, in a heartbeat, are capable of eviscerating all of them."
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 03:18:25 PM
Maybe we wont see any space jockey's in it just messages from them and ampullas and the tutorial how to play god....or at least the humans think that.
Remember:
"The cast find an establishment which is not what they expect it to be. What we find in it: dangerous elements that, in a heartbeat, are capable of eviscerating all of them."
Please, please , please...Mr.Scott let us see living jockey.. :'(
Well somebody is definitly using that huge pilot chair and he seem quite large...
So i guess we will get our live Engineer.
BTW the guy who leaked the info about the giant head sculpture said he saw an 8ft tall actor playing the Engineer in a cryo rack...
I've got no doubt we will see them alive and kicking.
Either an original one, a mutated human that becomes one or a reborn one from Shaw.
I think everyones missing something here. Of course this is speculation but I'm thinking the crew link up with the Jockey ship, use the "wormhole cannon" and get sent to the planet where the ship crashes. The wormhole takes them into the future and at the end, one of the characters sends out the warning signal which is picked up by the Nostomo 30 years later.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Dec 21, 2011, 03:27:20 PM
I think everyones missing something here. Of course this is speculation but I'm thinking the crew link up with the Jockey ship, use the "wormhole cannon" and get sent to the planet where the ship crashes. The wormhole takes them into the future and at the end, one of the characters sends out the warning signal which is picked up by the Nostomo 30 years later.
Wouldn't that wormhole take them into the past?
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Dec 21, 2011, 03:30:28 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Dec 21, 2011, 03:27:20 PM
I think everyones missing something here. Of course this is speculation but I'm thinking the crew link up with the Jockey ship, use the "wormhole cannon" and get sent to the planet where the ship crashes. The wormhole takes them into the future and at the end, one of the characters sends out the warning signal which is picked up by the Nostomo 30 years later.
Wouldn't that wormhole take them into the past?
That sounds plausible, maybe then we will see the beginning of time, the early ages of our planet and how it was terraformed by Jockeys/
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Dec 21, 2011, 03:27:20 PM
I think everyones missing something here. Of course this is speculation but I'm thinking the crew link up with the Jockey ship, use the "wormhole cannon" and get sent to the planet where the ship crashes. The wormhole takes them into the future and at the end, one of the characters sends out the warning signal which is picked up by the Nostomo 30 years later.
Already been discussed to death mate ;)
I Don't believe in time travel happening or this ship being the Derelict.
Especially since Lindelof said that:
http://www.screenjunkies.com/movies/movie-news/comic-con-2011-exclusive-damon-lindelof-talks-prometheus-makes-peace-with-lost-fans/ (http://www.screenjunkies.com/movies/movie-news/comic-con-2011-exclusive-damon-lindelof-talks-prometheus-makes-peace-with-lost-fans/)
QuoteGod willing, if Prometheus is successful, and there is a sequel, it won't be Alien because the end of this movie, if this movie is A to Z, Z is not there's a bunch of eggs laying on the floor of LV-426.
About the Derelict from ALIEN
Spoiler
I doubt the movie would feature 2 ship of the same class crashing on different planets ^^
This is not the Derelict or it's pilot story.
But we are many to think that the Derelict story will be adressed indirectly.
Scott said and stick to the idea that the Derelict is a bioweapon transporter en route to war/colonisation.
We tought that at some point we will see some Engineers history (the murals giger did maybe) and we will realise that the derelict was one of many ship that took part in past wars/ colonisation campaigns.
About the Engineer's ship in PROMETHEUS
Spoiler
My take is that the Engineer's ship (hidden as a temple underground) is taking off for Earth.
Shaw is the one looking at it from the ground.
Captain Janek decides that the only way to stop it is to crash their shuttle into it.
Vickers escapes from the ship using a rescue pod.
The Engineer ship gets hitby the human shuttle, exploding in mid air.
Vickers crash land with her pod, Shaw help her out, they run for their lives as the Engineer ship is crashing.
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 11:14:12 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg88.imageshack.us%2Fimg88%2F5426%2Fsam0788u.jpg&hash=0b91918851699e7f03677a67741ac5e283c41dcb) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/sam0788u.jpg/)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg577.imageshack.us%2Fimg577%2F8002%2Fsam0788ab.jpg&hash=5850d7de7ce3f365ce9bee6c39cce444690311d2) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/sam0788ab.jpg/)
So do you think that is a 100% human? xD
"We found someTHING....we found someTHING."
Someone saved the trailer?Link please... :'(
RE: The Space Jockey head, it could be a throwback to Dan O'Bannon's first Alien script, where the human explorers took the dead pilot's head back aboard their ship for study. We already saw an apparently headless Jockey torso and legs in one of the promo images...
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 21, 2011, 03:40:55 PM
RE: The Space Jockey head, it could be a throwback to Dan O'Bannon's first Alien script, where the human explorers took the dead pilot's head back aboard their ship for study. We already saw an apparently headless Jockey torso and legs in one of the promo images...
You mean this head ?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/alien/conceptart/cobb03.jpg)
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 21, 2011, 03:44:30 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 21, 2011, 03:40:55 PM
RE: The Space Jockey head, it could be a throwback to Dan O'Bannon's first Alien script, where the human explorers took the dead pilot's head back aboard their ship for study. We already saw an apparently headless Jockey torso and legs in one of the promo images...
You mean this head ?
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/alien/conceptart/cobb03.jpg
Just the Jockey head in general. That concept art was never considered for serious use, though O'Bannon liked it.
Quote from: Dirty Harry on Dec 21, 2011, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 11:14:12 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg88.imageshack.us%2Fimg88%2F5426%2Fsam0788u.jpg&hash=0b91918851699e7f03677a67741ac5e283c41dcb) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/sam0788u.jpg/)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg577.imageshack.us%2Fimg577%2F8002%2Fsam0788ab.jpg&hash=5850d7de7ce3f365ce9bee6c39cce444690311d2) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/sam0788ab.jpg/)
So do you think that is a 100% human? xD
"We found someTHING....we found someTHING."
Someone saved the trailer?Link please... :'(
1st page, 3rd post buddy ;)
Quote from: Dirty Harry on Dec 21, 2011, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 11:14:12 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg88.imageshack.us%2Fimg88%2F5426%2Fsam0788u.jpg&hash=0b91918851699e7f03677a67741ac5e283c41dcb) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/sam0788u.jpg/)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg577.imageshack.us%2Fimg577%2F8002%2Fsam0788ab.jpg&hash=5850d7de7ce3f365ce9bee6c39cce444690311d2) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/sam0788ab.jpg/)
So do you think that is a 100% human? xD
"We found someTHING....we found someTHING."
Someone saved the trailer?Link please... :'(
it's alien....
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.adamstrange.com%2Fwebsite_4.0%2F2--sub-gallery%2Fpainting%2FMickey-Mouse-Alien.jpg&hash=b79e1c109c8963f027dce0a44c2672d901ac9d68)
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 04:22:28 AM
Quote from: Biomechanoid20 on Dec 02, 2011, 12:11:37 AMI made this to backup my observation. Thanks to the person that enlarged the picture in first place.
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee395/ChrisPachi/biomechan.jpg
Biomechanoid20 WINS! Someone give that guy a cookie. 8)
-Chris
I think that head confirm that SJ will not have a pure human appearance in the film.
Look at that head...the eyes holes are very apart from each other.Maybe a deformed human face inside it?
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Dec 21, 2011, 03:30:28 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Dec 21, 2011, 03:27:20 PM
I think everyones missing something here. Of course this is speculation but I'm thinking the crew link up with the Jockey ship, use the "wormhole cannon" and get sent to the planet where the ship crashes. The wormhole takes them into the futurepast and at the end, one of the characters sends out the warning signal which is picked up by the Nostomo 30 years later.
Wouldn't that wormhole take them into the past?
Yes, I meant past, the wormhole cannon "shoots" them back in time to the planet on which the ship is seen crashing.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 03:25:27 PM
Well somebody is definitly using that huge pilot chair and he seem quite large...
So i guess we will get our live Engineer.
BTW the guy who leaked the info about the giant head sculpture said he saw an 8ft tall actor playing the Engineer in a cryo rack...
I've got no doubt we will see them alive and kicking.
Either an original one, a mutated human that becomes one or a reborn one from Shaw.
I think it is quite definite that we will see a living spacejockey.
If you combine this
http://www.willowmanagement.co.uk/profile.html?p_name=Phill%20Martin&p_id=83 (http://www.willowmanagement.co.uk/profile.html?p_name=Phill%20Martin&p_id=83)
with that
http://twitter.com/#!/clownfeet77/status/101381732493832192 (http://twitter.com/#!/clownfeet77/status/101381732493832192)
Quote@oliverjmoore I've been playing catch up at the gym. Managed to lose about a stone doing suit work on #prometheus !
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Quote from: LarsVader on Dec 21, 2011, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 03:25:27 PM
Well somebody is definitly using that huge pilot chair and he seem quite large...
So i guess we will get our live Engineer.
BTW the guy who leaked the info about the giant head sculpture said he saw an 8ft tall actor playing the Engineer in a cryo rack...
I've got no doubt we will see them alive and kicking.
Either an original one, a mutated human that becomes one or a reborn one from Shaw.
I think it is quite definite that we will see a living spacejockey.
If you combine this
http://www.willowmanagement.co.uk/profile.html?p_name=Phill%20Martin&p_id=83 (http://www.willowmanagement.co.uk/profile.html?p_name=Phill%20Martin&p_id=83)
with that
http://twitter.com/#!/clownfeet77/status/101381732493832192 (http://twitter.com/#!/clownfeet77/status/101381732493832192).
his voice can be a good choice for a Jockey....btw.The Twitter link doesn't work....
Quote from: LarsVader on Dec 21, 2011, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 03:25:27 PM
Well somebody is definitly using that huge pilot chair and he seem quite large...
So i guess we will get our live Engineer.
BTW the guy who leaked the info about the giant head sculpture said he saw an 8ft tall actor playing the Engineer in a cryo rack...
I've got no doubt we will see them alive and kicking.
Either an original one, a mutated human that becomes one or a reborn one from Shaw.
I think it is quite definite that we will see a living spacejockey.
If you combine this
http://www.willowmanagement.co.uk/profile.html?p_name=Phill%20Martin&p_id=83 (http://www.willowmanagement.co.uk/profile.html?p_name=Phill%20Martin&p_id=83)
with that
http://twitter.com/#!/clownfeet77/status/101381732493832192 (http://twitter.com/#!/clownfeet77/status/101381732493832192).
That's a BIG dude.
editet my post above
included a twitter quote
By the way...that silver serpent pseudo-proto-alien thing is still there in the trailer.
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 21, 2011, 01:45:52 PM
and you get it wrong the mutant wont be a bad guy/monster imo just a victim
Which would be fine. The main concern is that a human mutation leads to the predatory variety of creature hunting the rest of the crew. Having someone agonisingly mutate into something, as a symptom, is OK. Just so long as a 'pure' strain of something else is walking/slithering around.
Quote from: tmjhur on Dec 21, 2011, 02:33:37 PM
Bare in mind though that it's missing the trunk/breathing apparatus. So it would obviously appear flatter.
I was referring more to the shape of the skull. The eyes are placed differently and the front of the skull is flattened in a way the other wasn't.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 21, 2011, 02:43:58 PM
Yes, it is that guy.
But those
are early-ish Space Jockey creature designs. :)
Really, we need to see something a bit more '
Farscape'-like. I think it's the only franchise which has ever come close to regularly reproducing alien species which are as exotic as you'd expect to come from something like the derelict.
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9029/ynd.mp4 (http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9029/ynd.mp4)
In what way is this enhanced?
And where exactly is that serpent thingy?
Quote from: TWAK on Dec 21, 2011, 03:27:23 AM
Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 21, 2011, 03:17:25 AM
hmmm
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The guy standing at "S". Is that a human?
it's surely him...
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That chair is empty.
Quote from: LarsVader on Dec 21, 2011, 04:14:32 PM
In what way is this enhanced?
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Sony Vegas Pro 9 (sharpness and contrast levelling)
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And where exactly is that serpent thingy?
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Never saw it anyway
I´m really excited with the human-mutation possibility.
This open the door for many kinds of new biomechanical creatures.
Can I second the request for this 'serpent' thing, as I had always assumed everyone was talking about the guy in a suit being jumped on by the other (possibly mutated) fella. Was I wrong? what was it I was supposed to be looking at?
Timestamp for the serpent scene?
I didn't see it anywhere.
Quote from: LarsVader on Dec 21, 2011, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 03:25:27 PM
Well somebody is definitly using that huge pilot chair and he seem quite large...
So i guess we will get our live Engineer.
BTW the guy who leaked the info about the giant head sculpture said he saw an 8ft tall actor playing the Engineer in a cryo rack...
I've got no doubt we will see them alive and kicking.
Either an original one, a mutated human that becomes one or a reborn one from Shaw.
I think it is quite definite that we will see a living spacejockey.
If you combine this
http://www.willowmanagement.co.uk/profile.html?p_name=Phill%20Martin&p_id=83 (http://www.willowmanagement.co.uk/profile.html?p_name=Phill%20Martin&p_id=83)
with that
http://twitter.com/#!/clownfeet77/status/101381732493832192 (http://twitter.com/#!/clownfeet77/status/101381732493832192)
Quote@oliverjmoore I've been playing catch up at the gym. Managed to lose about a stone doing suit work on #prometheus !
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Nice find.
the name ENGINEER is definitly official and it confirms again the accuracy of this report:
Spoiler
"I was speaking with a guy who is working on the set of prometheus and he showed me some pictures and told me a bout the storyline. The space jockey that you see in alien who has had his chest busted open is the guy who engineers the aliens. He sends the aliens to planet that he wants to take over. The aliens kill the locals and he flys in and pillages the land of its resources. It seems as though he is responsible for the aliens creation, i'm guessing that he is some kind of super scientist.
The engineer is played by some huge guy who is 8ft tall. He appears even bigger in the space jockey scene from Alien as he is wearing a space suit. He appears to have died in a seat that looks like it is some sort of weapon control, this is in fact the navigation system that the space ship uses to open worm holes and plot its course. Perhaps the aliens revolted and, knowing that he has been impregnated, he is desperately trying to return home to have the alien extricated?
He showed me some pictures from the set. There is a huge silver bust of the engineers head, it is approximately 15m high. It appears that the engineer is sort of leader of a civilisation and there is a cult around his personality and his alien creations, this is probably due to the fact that he has mastered the technology that continues to provide the resource requirements of his home world. I also saw a picture of the actor who plays the engineer in what appeared to be some sort of cryo-chamber."
However i doubt this actor will be portraying the Engineer without the suit.
Still bet my money on Pierce.
EDIT, yep he does say in his tweet that he's done suit work.
For your perusal 8)
http://youtu.be/nvBtMS-cRiY (http://youtu.be/nvBtMS-cRiY)
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Dec 21, 2011, 04:51:52 PM
For your perusal 8)
http://youtu.be/nvBtMS-cRiY (http://youtu.be/nvBtMS-cRiY)
Topics merged.
Hi guys
Long time lurker (mainly over Prometheus news). Anyway i joined because of this report that the person a few above me posted -
Spoiler
I was speaking with a guy who is working on the set of prometheus and he showed me some pictures and told me a bout the storyline. The space jockey that you see in alien who has had his chest busted open is the guy who engineers the aliens. He sends the aliens to planet that he wants to take over. The aliens kill the locals and he flys in and pillages the land of its resources. It seems as though he is responsible for the aliens creation, i'm guessing that he is some kind of super scientist.
The engineer is played by some huge guy who is 8ft tall. He appears even bigger in the space jockey scene from Alien as he is wearing a space suit. He appears to have died in a seat that looks like it is some sort of weapon control, this is in fact the navigation system that the space ship uses to open worm holes and plot its course. Perhaps the aliens revolted and, knowing that he has been impregnated, he is desperately trying to return home to have the alien extricated?
He showed me some pictures from the set. There is a huge silver bust of the engineers head, it is approximately 15m high. It appears that the engineer is sort of leader of a civilisation and there is a cult around his personality and his alien creations, this is probably due to the fact that he has mastered the technology that continues to provide the resource requirements of his home world. I also saw a picture of the actor who plays the engineer in what appeared to be some sort of cryo-chamber."
Its just that he got a lot right in this and it fits with my theory that i wanted to post.
Now regardless of what Scott or Linderof etc has said, i believe that the space jockey in Prometheus is the one from ALIEN. I think that for some reason (probably one of the humans trying to steal tech from the Jockey) the engineer turns on the humans and was taking off for earth when the humans some how shot it down. Now i believe that the planet they are on is LV-426, yeah thats right. I think the Engineer was in the middle of terraforming LV-426 when the humans get there and thats why the planet has an atmosphere and looks different that in ALIEN and ALIENS. Maybe he was only half way through the terraforming process which is why the planet still looked baron but i think when the Engineer gets shot down, the terraforming process stops and over the next 30 years, the planet loses its atmosphere and goes back to how it orig was and how we now see LV-426 in ALIEN and ALIENS. I think the xeno's will be in the film at the end (the main reason why the humans shoot down the Engineers ship) and either the engineer or probably Shaw or one of the survivors will try their best to use the Engineers technology to set up a warning beacon/message to keep people away from LV-426.
Of course i could be dead wrong but thats how i feel the film will play out towards the end. Anyone agree with this?.
Plenty of plausible scenarios here and there, some ideas are very very likely to become materialized in the movie, but I would like to think there's a lot more to it. I had some vision a couple of hours ago what could have happened during the course of the movie, but I didn't have the time to externalize my fragile thoughts, and now several hours after it I can't seem to come up with anything, especially after reading all your crazy theories and your gang-bang brainstorming :D
heres what the film is about i think,
company finds SJ tech, finds out its all bio engineered (grown suits, grown ships etc)
Scientists grow their own versions of the suits (inside the urns)
company wants the tech but the scientists say its too dangerous.
fight breaks out between company and scientists.
1 or more flee the planet by "wearing" the jockey suit to be able to fly the ship with as far away from earth as possible.
little does this pilot know this human created "suit" contains a flaw, it wants to reproduce itself!
commence crashing ship, warning set off, and wayland KNOWING theres someone out there with that tech they ran away with!
Prometheus (crew) stole the fire (tech) from the gods (wayland yutani)
Yeah thats pretty much it i reckon. :P
BTW, someone's on the wheelchair when this chick is falling to her knees... And Noomi looks angrily after the shot of Theron running down the corridor, as if some other human wanted to do some harm to her or compromise her mission...And before that someone's pulling the cycle stick up and you can see the Weyland-Yutani logo on the dashboard.
Quote from: Mastes1 on Dec 21, 2011, 05:20:48 PM
Hi guys
Long time lurker (mainly over Prometheus news). Anyway i joined because of this report that the person a few above me posted -
Spoiler
I was speaking with a guy who is working on the set of prometheus and he showed me some pictures and told me a bout the storyline. The space jockey that you see in alien who has had his chest busted open is the guy who engineers the aliens. He sends the aliens to planet that he wants to take over. The aliens kill the locals and he flys in and pillages the land of its resources. It seems as though he is responsible for the aliens creation, i'm guessing that he is some kind of super scientist.
The engineer is played by some huge guy who is 8ft tall. He appears even bigger in the space jockey scene from Alien as he is wearing a space suit. He appears to have died in a seat that looks like it is some sort of weapon control, this is in fact the navigation system that the space ship uses to open worm holes and plot its course. Perhaps the aliens revolted and, knowing that he has been impregnated, he is desperately trying to return home to have the alien extricated?
He showed me some pictures from the set. There is a huge silver bust of the engineers head, it is approximately 15m high. It appears that the engineer is sort of leader of a civilisation and there is a cult around his personality and his alien creations, this is probably due to the fact that he has mastered the technology that continues to provide the resource requirements of his home world. I also saw a picture of the actor who plays the engineer in what appeared to be some sort of cryo-chamber."
Its just that he got a lot right in this and it fits with my theory that i wanted to post.
Now regardless of what Scott or Linderof etc has said, i believe that the space jockey in Prometheus is the one from ALIEN. I think that for some reason (probably one of the humans trying to steal tech from the Jockey) the engineer turns on the humans and was taking off for earth when the humans some how shot it down. Now i believe that the planet they are on is LV-426, yeah thats right. I think the Engineer was in the middle of terraforming LV-426 when the humans get there and thats why the planet has an atmosphere and looks different that in ALIEN and ALIENS. Maybe he was only half way through the terraforming process which is why the planet still looked baron but i think when the Engineer gets shot down, the terraforming process stops and over the next 30 years, the planet loses its atmosphere and goes back to how it orig was and how we now see LV-426 in ALIEN and ALIENS. I think the xeno's will be in the film at the end (the main reason why the humans shoot down the Engineers ship) and either the engineer or probably Shaw or one of the survivors will try their best to use the Engineers technology to set up a warning beacon/message to keep people away from LV-426.
Of course i could be dead wrong but thats how i feel the film will play out towards the end. Anyone agree with this?.
Welcome ;)
Just wanted to say that if you start by saying what Scott and Lindelof said is BS then everything is possible...
http://www.screenjunkies.com/movies/movie-news/comic-con-2011-exclusive-damon-lindelof-talks-prometheus-makes-peace-with-lost-fans/ (http://www.screenjunkies.com/movies/movie-news/comic-con-2011-exclusive-damon-lindelof-talks-prometheus-makes-peace-with-lost-fans/)
QuoteGod willing, if Prometheus is successful, and there is a sequel, it won't be Alien because the end of this movie, if this movie is A to Z, Z is not there's a bunch of eggs laying on the floor of LV-426.
Sorry but no facehuggers, no xenos, no lv426, no derelict and its specific pilot.
I want also see a glimpse of mergind between weyland - yutani...
Ha, anyone notiecd the "voice" at the very start of the trailer that "turns" into the "i was so wrong" speech, sounds a LOT like the "voice" in the original warning from Alien.....
have a listen, see for yourself....
Also noticed, the part on the trailer with the "road" the ship at the end looks like the same as the betty from ressurection.
that was considered an "old" ship wasnt it? which would be a nice nod.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 06:26:14 PM
Quote from: Mastes1 on Dec 21, 2011, 05:20:48 PM
Hi guys
Long time lurker (mainly over Prometheus news). Anyway i joined because of this report that the person a few above me posted -
Spoiler
I was speaking with a guy who is working on the set of prometheus and he showed me some pictures and told me a bout the storyline. The space jockey that you see in alien who has had his chest busted open is the guy who engineers the aliens. He sends the aliens to planet that he wants to take over. The aliens kill the locals and he flys in and pillages the land of its resources. It seems as though he is responsible for the aliens creation, i'm guessing that he is some kind of super scientist.
The engineer is played by some huge guy who is 8ft tall. He appears even bigger in the space jockey scene from Alien as he is wearing a space suit. He appears to have died in a seat that looks like it is some sort of weapon control, this is in fact the navigation system that the space ship uses to open worm holes and plot its course. Perhaps the aliens revolted and, knowing that he has been impregnated, he is desperately trying to return home to have the alien extricated?
He showed me some pictures from the set. There is a huge silver bust of the engineers head, it is approximately 15m high. It appears that the engineer is sort of leader of a civilisation and there is a cult around his personality and his alien creations, this is probably due to the fact that he has mastered the technology that continues to provide the resource requirements of his home world. I also saw a picture of the actor who plays the engineer in what appeared to be some sort of cryo-chamber."
Its just that he got a lot right in this and it fits with my theory that i wanted to post.
Now regardless of what Scott or Linderof etc has said, i believe that the space jockey in Prometheus is the one from ALIEN. I think that for some reason (probably one of the humans trying to steal tech from the Jockey) the engineer turns on the humans and was taking off for earth when the humans some how shot it down. Now i believe that the planet they are on is LV-426, yeah thats right. I think the Engineer was in the middle of terraforming LV-426 when the humans get there and thats why the planet has an atmosphere and looks different that in ALIEN and ALIENS. Maybe he was only half way through the terraforming process which is why the planet still looked baron but i think when the Engineer gets shot down, the terraforming process stops and over the next 30 years, the planet loses its atmosphere and goes back to how it orig was and how we now see LV-426 in ALIEN and ALIENS. I think the xeno's will be in the film at the end (the main reason why the humans shoot down the Engineers ship) and either the engineer or probably Shaw or one of the survivors will try their best to use the Engineers technology to set up a warning beacon/message to keep people away from LV-426.
Of course i could be dead wrong but thats how i feel the film will play out towards the end. Anyone agree with this?.
Welcome ;)
Just wanted to say that if you start by saying what Scott and Lindelof said is BS then everything is possible...
http://www.screenjunkies.com/movies/movie-news/comic-con-2011-exclusive-damon-lindelof-talks-prometheus-makes-peace-with-lost-fans/ (http://www.screenjunkies.com/movies/movie-news/comic-con-2011-exclusive-damon-lindelof-talks-prometheus-makes-peace-with-lost-fans/)
QuoteGod willing, if Prometheus is successful, and there is a sequel, it won't be Alien because the end of this movie, if this movie is A to Z, Z is not there's a bunch of eggs laying on the floor of LV-426.
Sorry but no facehuggers, no xenos, no lv426, no derelict and its specific pilot.
I just don't see why they would come out and say it, they obviously want to keep a lot of it secret. Think about it, an interviewer asks are there aliens in Prometheus?, why would Scott and Linderof say "yes"?.
Of course it could be a strange situation where everything they have said is totaly true but i don't buy it.
Quote from: marsekay on Dec 21, 2011, 06:32:42 PM
Ha, anyone notiecd the "voice" at the very start of the trailer that "turns" into the "i was so wrong" speech, sounds a LOT like the "voice" in the original warning from Alien.....
have a listen, see for yourself....
Also noticed, the part on the trailer with the "road" the ship at the end looks like the same as the betty from ressurection.
that was considered an "old" ship wasnt it? which would be a nice nod.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8cbFX6yRUo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8cbFX6yRUo#)
If there are no xenos in Prometheus, I'm going to feel the same way I felt when there was no Newt or Hicks in Alien3.
I dont know what to think yet of the Mutation possibilities...also looking at the suits they look awful smiler to the Alien, e.g. the metal plates on their joints etc.
How Mr Scott can just say fans will notice the DNA of alien?... its got a friggin Space Jokey init, thats Alien enough for me.
Really looking forward to watching the official release tommo.
Ive seen the leaked version and there is a part where the women is screaming and it looks like shes mutating into something...could they be taking on the form of the xeno? or some freak experiment thats the origin of the Xeno?
Quote from: Space_Dementia on Dec 21, 2011, 06:59:34 PM
I dont know what to think yet of the Mutation possibilities...also looking at the suits they look awful smiler to the Alien, e.g. the metal plates on their joints etc.
How Mr Scott can just say fans will notice the DNA of alien?... its got a friggin Space Jokey init, thats Alien enough for me.
Yeah this is what i mean, you have the space jockey ship, the chair, the room with the alien walls, the urns that are set up like the eggs, possible Weyland Yutani being in it, the trailer music is from the ALIEN trailer, the PROMETHEUS writing appears like in ALIEN. Even in the other thread, there are pics of the infirmary in ALIEN and Prometheus and they look identical!.
The whole film looks like a damn ALIEN movie!. Unless all what we have seen just happens to be in the last 8mins then Scott has been telling a few porkys!.
Quote from: Ash 937 on Dec 21, 2011, 06:58:11 PM
If there are no xenos in Prometheus, I'm going to feel the same way I felt when there was no Newt or Hicks in Alien3.
As has already been stated, most of us are pretty certain there WILL be xenomorphs in this film...with "xenomorph" meaning any non-terrestrial "alien" organism. What we will NOT see is THE Xenomorph (and here I have capitalized the term). In other words, I don't think we will see anything like the original "A L I E N", but we will certainly see aliens (generic term).
Quote from: deuterium on Dec 21, 2011, 07:10:59 PM
Quote from: Ash 937 on Dec 21, 2011, 06:58:11 PM
If there are no xenos in Prometheus, I'm going to feel the same way I felt when there was no Newt or Hicks in Alien3.
As has already been stated, most of us are pretty certain there WILL be xenomorphs in this film...with "xenomorph" meaning any non-terrestrial "alien" organism. What we will NOT see is THE Xenomorph (and here I have capitalized the term). In other words, I don't think we will see anything like the original "A L I E N", but we will certainly see aliens (generic term).
I think its possible that we may see the 'real' xeno's right at the end (maybe just in egg form) but yeah i agree that there will be some variant in the film. In fact i'm pretty sure there was a xeno like alien in that 18 second leak from ages ago, it was grey and kind of turned around but its head looked a lot different in shape to the xeno we know. Of course the footage was so bad that it could of been anything i suppose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvBtMS-cRiY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvBtMS-cRiY#ws)
Noomi at 3:25 dropping to her knees will she be the badass and Charlize be the good one in the end?
I would also bet that the alien creatures we end up seeing will bear some kind of similarity to the original creature. Furthermore...egg morphing and mutation are in the same family, they are both changes on a cellular and genetic level causing a kind of trans-morphism of the body.
So we know what they've showed us....imagine what they're not showing us?!!
just curious but a few people , myself included have asked if anyone has stills of this "serpent" you all seem to talk about, from the original leaked trailer , does anyone feel like sharing ?
i will say please if it helps
damnnnn, we have got the space jockey head since the first official photos (giant humanoid head) . We have just been lookin for some freakin alien with a trunk... well played
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Dec 21, 2011, 07:37:58 PM
just curious but a few people , myself included have asked if anyone has stills of this "serpent" you all seem to talk about, from the original leaked trailer , does anyone feel like sharing ?
i will say please if it helps
I would love to see the serpent, too. I have seen all of the leaked footage so far, and was unable to distinguish the "serpent" but would love to see it if someone could capture it or make a gif like some of the other footage.
Thank you.
Quote from: Ash 937 on Dec 21, 2011, 06:58:11 PM
If there are no xenos in Prometheus, I'm going to feel the same way I felt when there was no Newt or Hicks in Alien3.
Happy? (I was)
Wow people are really eager to call it an ALIEN prequel!
What part of, yes it's taking place in the same universe but don't feature characters and story arcs from the original films is hard to understand?
So yeah you can say it's an ALIEN movie, but since THE alien, the xeno is not in, nor the Nostromo, nor Ripley.
Also it will not follow the usual haunted house concept that has been the formula for every ALIEN sequel (save from ALIENS maybe)
It it's not an ALIEN movie or prequel as we are used to in hollywood thats is what they mean.
It's all semantics thats sure.
And the main thing is that it's also a marketing move.
ALIEN franchise is dead in the water, less average moviegoer would be keen to see another on but tell them that the diector of the original ALIEN is making another big scifi epix movie and it's a whole new story.
Quote from: Mastes1 on Dec 21, 2011, 06:39:56 PM
I just don't see why they would come out and say it, they obviously want to keep a lot of it secret. Think about it, an interviewer asks are there aliens in Prometheus?, why would Scott and Linderof say "yes"?.
Of course it could be a strange situation where everything they have said is totaly true but i don't buy it.
Maybe because since PROMETHEUS started they are repeating that it's not an ALIEN direct prequel and that people still think it is.
Maybe because they want to make clear that they are going another route.
Maybe because they don't won't to have dissapointed fans who will be expecting the old creatures or the Derelict story.
Scott has made his feeling toward the creature state as of today, it's worn out, i want something fresh.
I don't see Scott and Lindelof lying about this, they would rather keep their mouth shut (like they did many times when asked specific question) than say BS.
But hey whatever floats your boat :)
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Dec 21, 2011, 07:37:58 PM
just curious but a few people , myself included have asked if anyone has stills of this "serpent" you all seem to talk about, from the original leaked trailer , does anyone feel like sharing ?
i will say please if it helps
I have never seen a "serpent" in any of the leaked media. I remember someone saying they saw it in the fuzzy super low quality version a few weeks ago, but I certainly was never able to see it.
No slug or serpent in the final trailer.
Nor character jumping between two separating structure neither.
These were in the 15 sec leaked test trailer 1 video.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 07:47:36 PM
Wow people are really eager to call it an ALIEN prequel!
What part of, yes it's taking place in the same universe but don't feature characters and story arcs from the original films is hard to understand?
So yeah you can say it's an ALIEN movie, but since THE alien, the xeno is not in, nor the Nostromo, nor Ripley.
Also it will not follow the usual haunted house concept that has been the formula for every ALIEN sequel (save from ALIENS maybe)
It it's not an ALIEN movie or prequel as we are used to in hollywood thats is what they mean.
It's all semantics thats sure.
And the main thing is that it's also a marketing move.
ALIEN franchise is dead in the water, less average moviegoer would be keen to see another on but tell them that the diector of the original ALIEN is making another big scifi epix movie and it's a whole new story.
Quote from: Mastes1 on Dec 21, 2011, 06:39:56 PM
I just don't see why they would come out and say it, they obviously want to keep a lot of it secret. Think about it, an interviewer asks are there aliens in Prometheus?, why would Scott and Linderof say "yes"?.
Of course it could be a strange situation where everything they have said is totaly true but i don't buy it.
Maybe because since PROMETHEUS started they are repeating that it's not an ALIEN direct prequel and that people still think it is.
Maybe because they want to make clear that they are going another route.
Maybe because they don't won't to have dissapointed fans who will be expecting the old creatures or the Derelict story.
Scott has made his feeling toward the creature state as of today, it's worn out, i want something fresh.
I don't see Scott and Lindelof lying about this, they would rather keep their mouth shut (like they did many times when asked specific question) than say BS.
But hey whatever floats your boat :)
Well maybe they shouldn't use the same music from the orig ALIEN trailer or have the PROMETHEUS title morph into view like in ALIEN. Thats just going to make people think its a prequel.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 21, 2011, 07:33:28 PM
I would also bet that the alien creatures we end up seeing will bear some kind of similarity to the original creature. Furthermore...egg morphing and mutation are in the same family, they are both changes on a cellular and genetic level causing a kind of trans-morphism of the body.
So we know what they've showed us....imagine what they're not showing us?!!
Interesting train of thought there. I approve!
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 07:47:36 PM
Wow people are really eager to call it an ALIEN prequel!
What part of, yes it's taking place in the same universe but don't feature characters and story arcs from the original films is hard to understand?
In a way its already confirmed that its a prequel...ok, we dont have the same characters or even the Xeno...buts its still laying out the blue print of the following movies.
Alien or no alien, it's clear from the footage so far that the film is focused around elements of horror. It's a science fiction horror mystery like the original Alien film. People are running in fear, screaming, and there are creepy aliens or mutants or whatever they turn out to be. It's like the original Alien formula complete with robots and sexy lead actresses, Giger designs, but with a bigger budget. All the best elements from the original just ramped up. It's a way to reboot the series. No complaints here, but ultimately its still the same formula as the original.
My point is, Prometheus was being spun as if this was a totally different film that just happened to be set in the Alien universe, but this is no whimsical space adventure or some other type of film - it is the genre of the original Alien film and as in the original, most of the crew will be killed in some terrifying manner by some unusual life form.
Quote from: Face Jockey on Dec 21, 2011, 08:19:04 PM
Alien or no alien, it's clear from the footage so far that the film is focused around elements of horror. It's a science fiction horror mystery like the original Alien film. People are running in fear, screaming, and there are creepy aliens or mutants or whatever they turn out to be. It's like the original Alien formula complete with robots and sexy lead actresses, Giger designs, but with a bigger budget. All the best elements from the original just ramped up. It's a way to reboot the series. No complaints here, but ultimately its still the same formula as the original.
My point is, Prometheus was being spun as if this was a totally different film that just happened to be set in the Alien universe, but this is no whimsical space adventure or some other type of film - it is the genre of the original Alien film and as in the original, most of the crew will be killed in some terrifying manner by some unusual life form.
This is not a reboot for one and yes its based in the same universe...I feel this is more of a origins story.
I think when all is said and done ALIEN will be a small piece of a bigger picture.
Quote from: DemonicD13 on Dec 21, 2011, 09:18:09 PM
I think when all is said and done ALIEN will be a small piece of a bigger picture.
Couldnt have put it better myself...thats actually quite spot on.
I really do hope there won`t be human hybrids/mutants in this one.
Quote from: Space_Dementia on Dec 21, 2011, 09:18:48 PM
Quote from: DemonicD13 on Dec 21, 2011, 09:18:09 PM
I think when all is said and done ALIEN will be a small piece of a bigger picture.
Couldnt have put it better myself...thats actually quite spot on.
My thoughts exactly. I bet when prometheus is succes FOX will try to expend this universe even further.
How more i think about Prometheus, the more i wish it never was been made... it gonna take my imagination away..I did build up in my mind how the SJ and Alien world did look the last 32 years....lol
But I have to watch it... wanna see Scott's vison :)
Quote from: Master on Dec 21, 2011, 09:26:26 PM
I really do hope there won`t be human hybrids/mutants in this one.
Same here, i keep seeing that behind the scenes clip in my head where that guy is being lifted up in front of Ridley Scott, it reminds me of 'The Hills Have Eyes' or something, i'm not feeling that!
Quote from: atlantis on Dec 21, 2011, 09:58:22 PM
How more i think about Prometheus, the more i wish it never was been made... it gonna take my imagination away..I did build up in my mind how the SJ and Alien world did look the last 32 years....lol
But I have to watch it... wanna see Scott's vison :)
Maybe you should send some emails to Ridley and ask him to use some of your ideas...;) who knows :)
Lol..nah..Then it would turn into a 100% Giger world...
and become to abstract cause no human life form would be in it..
And most people need to see human life forms in movies, so they can identify them self with them
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 21, 2011, 10:13:09 PM
Quote from: atlantis on Dec 21, 2011, 09:58:22 PM
How more i think about Prometheus, the more i wish it never was been made... it gonna take my imagination away..I did build up in my mind how the SJ and Alien world did look the last 32 years....lol
But I have to watch it... wanna see Scott's vison :)
Maybe you should send some emails to Ridley and ask him to use some of your ideas...;) who knows :)
Quote from: atlantis on Dec 21, 2011, 10:16:36 PM
Lol..nah..Then it would turn into a 100% Giger world...
and become to abstract cause no human life form would be in it..
And most people need to see human life forms in movies, so they can identify them self with them
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 21, 2011, 10:13:09 PM
Quote from: atlantis on Dec 21, 2011, 09:58:22 PM
How more i think about Prometheus, the more i wish it never was been made... it gonna take my imagination away..I did build up in my mind how the SJ and Alien world did look the last 32 years....lol
But I have to watch it... wanna see Scott's vison :)
Maybe you should send some emails to Ridley and ask him to use some of your ideas...;) who knows :)
Add Predators in it :)
Quote from: Master on Dec 21, 2011, 09:26:26 PM
I really do hope there won`t be human hybrids/mutants in this one.
Quote from: Space_Dementia on Dec 21, 2011, 09:18:48 PM
Quote from: DemonicD13 on Dec 21, 2011, 09:18:09 PM
I think when all is said and done ALIEN will be a small piece of a bigger picture.
Couldnt have put it better myself...thats actually quite spot on.
My thoughts exactly. I bet when prometheus is succes FOX will try to expend this universe even further.
Cant wait for the "Aliens vs Predator vs Engineers vs mutants vs new xenos" that this money grabbing whore that is Fox will end up doing 10 years from now ;D
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 03:49:02 AM
I was wrong (so wrong ^^) the starmap room IS the room that houses the pilot chair.
The starmap room console platform opens and the chair comesout of it.
Whoever is the character on the right (original Engineer, reborn engineer or mutated human), he's not a regular sized human.
Take for reference the human seen on the console of the starmap room in the hologram shot.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg402.imageshack.us%2Fimg402%2F4576%2Fstarmaproomispilotseatr.jpg&hash=58407864e02a1e2761970803c4399bf0d40ad8b1)
That's a terrific observation mate - well done! Giant humanoids...yeah I can dig that 8)
Thanks mate.
Here is another one made with the images from the last first look video ;)
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 08:42:54 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg840.imageshack.us%2Fimg840%2F2324%2Fengineersizeroom.png&hash=e5d26fd2e6d058a710d70c24a896a4276fe40bf6)
Starmap/Pilot room.
The size of the set has been made to fit regular human size for the shoot but on screen you can see that actual humans will be tiny. Clearly not as tall as Fassbender is in the middle of the plateform...
So the human characters will be reduced in post to make the look Engineers huge.
Easier that the other way around i guess.
BTW the Engineer that is waiting for the chair to rise, is probably waiting on the steps on the left that leads to the plateform.
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Cant wait for the "Aliens vs Predator vs Engineers vs mutants vs new xenos" that this money grabbing whore that is Fox will end up doing 10 years from now ;D
I think a new AVP will be done...Fox will smell money from Prometheus audience....
I'm not against it as long as it stays an alternate universe to Alien and Predators movies and that they decide to write a good script. The original comic book would have made a pretty good flick.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:17:05 PM
I'm not against it as long as it stays an alternate universe to Alien and Predators movies and that they decide to write a good script. The original comic book would have made a pretty good flick.
i agree , the comic would be ace as a movie
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:19:42 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:17:05 PM
I'm not against it as long as it stays an alternate universe to Alien and Predators movies and that they decide to write a good script. The original comic book would have made a pretty good flick.
i agree , the comic would be ace as a movie
But if there is another AVP, I think Jockeys will be involved....
I doubt they will consider another AvP. The title alone will turn people away. If Prometheus does well, Fox will prob want Scott to do another. I wouldnt mind another AvP, set in space, with lots of Colonial Marines. Predators did it, and made money. So it could be done...
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:21:30 PM
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:19:42 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:17:05 PM
I'm not against it as long as it stays an alternate universe to Alien and Predators movies and that they decide to write a good script. The original comic book would have made a pretty good flick.
i agree , the comic would be ace as a movie
But if there is another AVP, I think Jockeys will be involved....
Peter Briggs's script was highly rated...I wasn't so keen, but it was a damn sight better than Paul Anderson's disgrace and I try not to talk about the Strauss Brothers :s lol
Michael Bay with Cameron producing maybe? It's more their kind of project (thinking merchandising). Justin Lin and Guillermo del Toro are worth a shout too. Personally, I think it might be some time before we see AVP again...there's more chance of a straight reboot of Alien if Prometheus goes down well.
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Dec 22, 2011, 12:32:25 AM
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:21:30 PM
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:19:42 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:17:05 PM
I'm not against it as long as it stays an alternate universe to Alien and Predators movies and that they decide to write a good script. The original comic book would have made a pretty good flick.
i agree , the comic would be ace as a movie
But if there is another AVP, I think Jockeys will be involved....
Peter Briggs's script was highly rated...I wasn't so keen, but it was a damn sight better than Paul Anderson's disgrace and I try not to talk about the Strauss Brothers :s lol
Michael Bay with Cameron producing maybe? It's more their kind of project (thinking merchandising). Justin Lin and Guillermo del Toro are worth a shout too. Personally, I think it might be some time before we see AVP again...there's more chance of a straight reboot of Alien if Prometheus goes down well.
Who in hell wants another Michael bay movie????
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Dec 22, 2011, 12:43:14 AM
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Dec 22, 2011, 12:32:25 AM
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:21:30 PM
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:19:42 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:17:05 PM
I'm not against it as long as it stays an alternate universe to Alien and Predators movies and that they decide to write a good script. The original comic book would have made a pretty good flick.
i agree , the comic would be ace as a movie
But if there is another AVP, I think Jockeys will be involved....
Peter Briggs's script was highly rated...I wasn't so keen, but it was a damn sight better than Paul Anderson's disgrace and I try not to talk about the Strauss Brothers :s lol
Michael Bay with Cameron producing maybe? It's more their kind of project (thinking merchandising). Justin Lin and Guillermo del Toro are worth a shout too. Personally, I think it might be some time before we see AVP again...there's more chance of a straight reboot of Alien if Prometheus goes down well.
Who in hell wants another Michael bay movie????
Michael Bay makes explosions, not movies...
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Dec 22, 2011, 12:43:14 AM
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Dec 22, 2011, 12:32:25 AM
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:21:30 PM
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:19:42 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:17:05 PM
I'm not against it as long as it stays an alternate universe to Alien and Predators movies and that they decide to write a good script. The original comic book would have made a pretty good flick.
i agree , the comic would be ace as a movie
But if there is another AVP, I think Jockeys will be involved....
Peter Briggs's script was highly rated...I wasn't so keen, but it was a damn sight better than Paul Anderson's disgrace and I try not to talk about the Strauss Brothers :s lol
Michael Bay with Cameron producing maybe? It's more their kind of project (thinking merchandising). Justin Lin and Guillermo del Toro are worth a shout too. Personally, I think it might be some time before we see AVP again...there's more chance of a straight reboot of Alien if Prometheus goes down well.
Who in hell wants another Michael bay movie????
True, I certainly don't - but I'm sure Fox would see AVP still as a kids toy franchise rather than a horror project. Replacing giant robots with alien hunters...there's money to be made if it's done right. Transformers, despite being terrible narrative, have made over a billion dollars between them. Bay makes than kinda shit, successful shit :-\
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Dec 22, 2011, 12:56:19 AM
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Dec 22, 2011, 12:43:14 AM
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Dec 22, 2011, 12:32:25 AM
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:21:30 PM
Quote from: hardcorps54 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:19:42 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:17:05 PM
I'm not against it as long as it stays an alternate universe to Alien and Predators movies and that they decide to write a good script. The original comic book would have made a pretty good flick.
i agree , the comic would be ace as a movie
But if there is another AVP, I think Jockeys will be involved....
Peter Briggs's script was highly rated...I wasn't so keen, but it was a damn sight better than Paul Anderson's disgrace and I try not to talk about the Strauss Brothers :s lol
Michael Bay with Cameron producing maybe? It's more their kind of project (thinking merchandising). Justin Lin and Guillermo del Toro are worth a shout too. Personally, I think it might be some time before we see AVP again...there's more chance of a straight reboot of Alien if Prometheus goes down well.
Who in hell wants another Michael bay movie????
True, I certainly don't - but I'm sure Fox would see AVP still as a kids toy franchise rather than a horror project. Replacing giant robots with alien hunters...there's money to be made if it's done right. Transformers, despite being terrible narrative, have made over a billion dollars between them. Bay makes than kinda shit, successful shit :-\
Maybe it's my age but I find really hard to understand what is happening in all those transformer movies....Plotwise are absurd, and actionwise It's impossible to discern who is who, who is beating what, what is where etc...give me headaches....
Anyway, I hope there are no more Alien movies or more AVP movies...You are not going to do nothing better than Alien and ALiens. Prometheus well...its a diferent story.
I reassure you it's not your age.
It's mostly the result of bad design, too many pieces you can't make where a robot ends and the other begins when they fight, plus bad fast editing.
It's sad because Bay do have some good composition skills, but he confuses intensity with speed.
As for the scripts well it clear that Bay don't give a rat's ass about them he just want to blow shit up.
I like watching Bay movies because of their epic proportions when it comes to action and because of some show off money shots.
If i want something that is more carefully crafted as an action movie i'll go watch Cameron, Verhoeven, Mactiernan, etc...
Bay is the junk food of action cinema.
But i prefer him to the hack duo, Favreau and Ratner.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 22, 2011, 01:31:41 AM
I reassure you it's not your age.
It's mostly the result of bad design, too many pieces you can't make where a robot ends and the other begins when they fight, plus bad fast editing.
It's sad because Bay do have some good composition skills, but he confuses intensity with speed.
As for the scripts well it clear that Bay don't give a rat's ass about them he just want to blow shit up.
I like watching Bay movies because of their epic proportions when it comes to action and because of some show off money shots.
If i want something that is more carefully crafted as an action movie i'll go watch Cameron, Verhoeven, Mactiernan, etc...
After Titanic and Avatar, I just wish cameron goes blind....
Well these are not my favorite Cameron movies but the guy is still the master when it comes to direct.
Whatever you think of AVATAR story or alien designs (the human gear design just plain rules in my taste), the action is beautifully shot.
The only problem i see Cameron has is that to make his epic gazillion millions dollars movies he has tolet go some of his harder side. The AVATAR original treatment is more rough and violent,but he had to tame it to get the budget he wanted.
He play the game, and still manages to give me goosepumps.
I mean take the same story and give it to Bay or any other action director you would probably have a really big turd in the end... But you might think it's already that ;D
Quote from: JayHy17 on Dec 22, 2011, 12:29:47 AM
I doubt they will consider another AvP. The title alone will turn people away. If Prometheus does well, Fox will prob want Scott to do another. I wouldnt mind another AvP, set in space, with lots of Colonial Marines. Predators did it, and made money. So it could be done...
Simply including a military aspect isn't any guarantee of quality. It has to be handled by a director who can make them plausible.
Just look at '
Alien Resurrection' and '
Requiem'.
Quote from: TWAK on Dec 21, 2011, 03:27:23 AM
Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 21, 2011, 03:17:25 AM
hmmm
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7154%2F6546942545_32769624d1_b.jpg&hash=b0bcf7967e1bdb1aa48ba87e797cca19a2e8b0d2)
The guy standing at "S". Is that a human?
So I was just thinking that the Engineer is basically this guy?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fartmight.com%2Falbums%2Fclassic-h%2FH-R-Giger%2Fhr-giger-facehugger-II.jpg&hash=e2b9038d78d9df59f604608bafd0e85ff5479bc5)
Same guy as in the unused HR Giger life cycle mural from Alien.
This looks really, really good.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthelaughingmarcus.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F08%2Fso-much-win.jpg%3Fw%3D445&hash=316270e09d8bfe0567b4f5afdcf89e02d82b21ab)
Not enough of space jockey but still awesome
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 22, 2011, 05:16:56 AM
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Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 21, 2011, 03:17:25 AM
hmmm
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7154%2F6546942545_32769624d1_b.jpg&hash=b0bcf7967e1bdb1aa48ba87e797cca19a2e8b0d2)
The guy standing at "S". Is that a human?
So I was just thinking that the Engineer is basically this guy?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fartmight.com%2Falbums%2Fclassic-h%2FH-R-Giger%2Fhr-giger-facehugger-II.jpg&hash=e2b9038d78d9df59f604608bafd0e85ff5479bc5)
Same guy as in the unused HR Giger life cycle mural from Alien.
That pretty much fits , human with gigerian features...
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 08:00:56 PM
No slug or serpent in the final trailer.
I think everyone got that, they were just looking for caps from the 15 second leak trailer because they missed it in the first place. I know I did.
Quote from: robbritton on Dec 22, 2011, 09:01:05 AM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 08:00:56 PM
No slug or serpent in the final trailer.
I think everyone got that, they were just looking for caps from the 15 second leak trailer because they missed it in the first place. I know I did.
i think the explanation is pareidolia
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia)
peoples minds playing tricks on them or seeing what they wanted to see just like with the man jumping on the suited man.
i saw both leaked trailers and couldn't see any serpent at all, ive asked for screen caps but nobody seems to be coming up with anything other than a blob which could be absolutely anything due to such poor quality.
thanks
rich
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Dec 21, 2011, 11:14:14 PM
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Cant wait for the "Aliens vs Predator vs Engineers vs mutants vs new xenos" that this money grabbing whore that is Fox will end up doing 10 years from now ;D
I think a new AVP will be done...Fox will smell money from Prometheus audience....
Absolutely no doubt about that.
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 22, 2011, 09:08:26 AM
Quote from: robbritton on Dec 22, 2011, 09:01:05 AM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 08:00:56 PM
No slug or serpent in the final trailer.
I think everyone got that, they were just looking for caps from the 15 second leak trailer because they missed it in the first place. I know I did.
i think the explanation is pareidolia
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia)
peoples minds playing tricks on them or seeing what they wanted to see just like with the man jumping on the suited man.
This will explain why Ridley Scott thinks the Space Jockey in ALIEN was a man in a suit then :D Good word by the way :)
Quote from: Dogme on Dec 22, 2011, 12:25:32 PM
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 22, 2011, 09:08:26 AM
Quote from: robbritton on Dec 22, 2011, 09:01:05 AM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 08:00:56 PM
No slug or serpent in the final trailer.
I think everyone got that, they were just looking for caps from the 15 second leak trailer because they missed it in the first place. I know I did.
i think the explanation is pareidolia
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia)
peoples minds playing tricks on them or seeing what they wanted to see just like with the man jumping on the suited man.
This will explain why Ridley Scott thinks the Space Jockey in ALIEN was a man in a suit then :D Good word by the way :)
i think wer may now be getting the same phenomena with the alleged mutation that a lot of people are talking about, im not ruling mutation out of the movie as its plausible but im just not seeing it in the trailers or pictures like some people are!. i see a man burned on his face from the smoking helmet and another man that looks like hes been in an explosion or something!.
thanks
rich
If Prometheus does well do you think it is possible for ALIEN to make it back to theaters? Maybe as a "Lucas" style special edition. It seems like some of the raw unused ideas from the original ALIEN script would fit in to what Prometheus is doing. Like a scene with Dallas finding broken urns. Also I would like a reedit of the Nostromo exploding the original has always seemed cheesy to me.
Quote from: DemonicD13 on Dec 22, 2011, 12:49:58 PM
If Prometheus does well do you think it is possible for ALIEN to make it back to theaters? Maybe as a "Lucas" style special edition. It seems like some of the raw unused ideas from the original ALIEN script would fit in to what Prometheus is doing. Like a scene with Dallas finding broken urns. Also I would like a reedit of the Nostromo exploding the original has always seemed cheesy to me.
No. No revisionism please.
So no Jabba? :-\
Quote from: DemonicD13 on Dec 22, 2011, 12:49:58 PM
If Prometheus does well do you think it is possible for ALIEN to make it back to theaters? Maybe as a "Lucas" style special edition. It seems like some of the raw unused ideas from the original ALIEN script would fit in to what Prometheus is doing. Like a scene with Dallas finding broken urns. Also I would like a reedit of the Nostromo exploding the original has always seemed cheesy to me.
Dunno about you guys, but I just wish FOX would put the restored version of Alien3 back in theatres. I know it's still a bit of a mess and could be trimmed down, but I think plenty would still go see it if they did that.
Quote from: RoaryUK on Dec 22, 2011, 12:54:57 PM
Quote from: DemonicD13 on Dec 22, 2011, 12:49:58 PM
If Prometheus does well do you think it is possible for ALIEN to make it back to theaters? Maybe as a "Lucas" style special edition. It seems like some of the raw unused ideas from the original ALIEN script would fit in to what Prometheus is doing. Like a scene with Dallas finding broken urns. Also I would like a reedit of the Nostromo exploding the original has always seemed cheesy to me.
Dunno about you guys, but I just wish FOX would put the restored version of Alien3 back in theatres. I know it's still a bit of a mess and could be trimmed down, but I think plenty would still go see it if they did that.
I saw the original version twice in the cinemas, so I would definitely pay to see the restored version.
Quote from: DemonicD13 on Dec 22, 2011, 12:49:58 PM
If Prometheus does well do you think it is possible for ALIEN to make it back to theaters? Maybe as a "Lucas" style special edition. It seems like some of the raw unused ideas from the original ALIEN script would fit in to what Prometheus is doing. Like a scene with Dallas finding broken urns. Also I would like a reedit of the Nostromo exploding the original has always seemed cheesy to me.
Well i'm not against anything if Ridley is helming it.
The work on the final cut is pretty good, subtle.
And he DOES leave the possibility to have access to the original versions.
So yeah why not.
But i rather see him tackle a whole new movie than fine tune what's done.
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 22, 2011, 12:31:40 PM
Quote from: Dogme on Dec 22, 2011, 12:25:32 PM
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 22, 2011, 09:08:26 AM
Quote from: robbritton on Dec 22, 2011, 09:01:05 AM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 21, 2011, 08:00:56 PM
No slug or serpent in the final trailer.
I think everyone got that, they were just looking for caps from the 15 second leak trailer because they missed it in the first place. I know I did.
i think the explanation is pareidolia
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia)
peoples minds playing tricks on them or seeing what they wanted to see just like with the man jumping on the suited man.
This will explain why Ridley Scott thinks the Space Jockey in ALIEN was a man in a suit then :D Good word by the way :)
i think wer may now be getting the same phenomena with the alleged mutation that a lot of people are talking about, im not ruling mutation out of the movie as its plausible but im just not seeing it in the trailers or pictures like some people are!. i see a man burned on his face from the smoking helmet and another man that looks like hes been in an explosion or something!.
thanks
rich
This!
I honestly don't see any strong indications that the 'leaping man' is mutating or mid transformation at all. To me he looks somewhat injured if anything. Yet it seems that a large amount of people seem CONVINCED he is. I am not against the mutating idea at all but there is nothing concrete to my knowledge suggesting that that's what is happening in that scene or that mutating will actually feature in the movie.
Since this seems to be the guy with the "melting helmet" we saw in the clip it could be wounds as well...and he is damn ugly of course. I hope so.
The guy has cleary some sort of deformation going on.
He's clearly agressive, being hunted down and flamethrowed.
He has no helmet (not even outside in front of the hangar in the behind the scene shot) where in every shot of the person burning him do have one.
As for the guy who is getting his helmet burned, his skin is not just burning, his neck his morphing and changing color...
Yeah it could be anything but in a movie that deals with bioengineering, with humans discovering vials with probably dna material, mutation do seem to be highly plausible.
Again i dont think this is the main threat (well could be if such thing reaches Earth this is clearly our end) probably one of the many f**k ups that happens when the humans play god (they steal the fire of the gods, the urns, play and shit happens) and i'm sure that REAL creatures will appear.
Video Pulled.
I dont get why they removed it now :S
they may as well leave it on its going to be launched today anyway.
For anyone with an iPhone/iPad, you can already view the trailer by searching "prometheus trailer" in iTunes and tapping the little television icon next to the "free" button.
Someone has already uploaded screencaps of the trailer here (http://imgur.com/a/KJevy).
Just watched the full res on my iPad....awesome...a couple of new shots. We've had these same images for a while so I'm a bit disappointed they didn't release something different, but oh we'll.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 22, 2011, 04:07:21 PM
Just watched the full res on my iPad....awesome...a couple of new shots. We've had these same images for a while so I'm a bit disappointed they didn't release something different, but oh we'll.
We are dissapointed because of the leaks. We have allready seen this trailer.
Quote from: Ash 937 on Dec 21, 2011, 06:58:11 PM
If there are no xenos in Prometheus, I'm going to feel the same way I felt when there was no Newt or Hicks in Alien3.
Ecstatic?
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 22, 2011, 04:07:21 PM
Just watched the full res on my iPad....awesome...a couple of new shots. We've had these same images for a while so I'm a bit disappointed they didn't release something different, but oh we'll.
Didn't you say of Rothman's response to the trailer leak "Why is it unfair?"
Well, here's your answer. Without the leak your first exposure to all these images would have been HD and you'd have been all the more stoked by the revelations and scale. The leak undermined the impact somewhat, (although not too much in my opinion), and it led to a lot of flawed speculation because the low res picture maybe hinted at things that weren't there.