Just wondering whats your thoughts on drugs? My thoughts are you do drugs dont over do it youll be fine but if you over do it then hell your an idiot, things such as weed now my views on it......... Ive had better time on weed than Booze, It's CRAP!!! how theres a LEGAL! Drug being worse than an illegal drug wow...... I think weeds one of the safest drugs out their not saying it cant do harm but hell compared to the death traps from booze and tobbacco....... I mean when a drug makes you see the world for what it is and allows a new perspective of life how can it do that much harm?.... oh right yeah government trying to control us like puppets... so whats your perspective on weed, LSD, shrooms hell any drug do you think some are safer than others? should they be legalized?
A-class drugs: used to do 'em, not anymore [no, not heroin, puh-lease, I mean charlie and pills]. No particular reason for stopping. Mary Jane though is one of my best friends, she pops around now and then.
Recently tried Marijuana for the first time. I wasn't impressed.
My personal views on it is if that's what you want to do, and it doesn't directly hurt anyone by your doing it ie robbing people to pay for it, then have at it. Just know that weed in particular will make you lazy as shit, and swallow all your money :laugh:
I'm all for it being legalised however. It could be produced safely and in sufficient quantities to satisfy demand. And in the current economic climate, the new tax revenue stream would be a godsend for the government.
I support the legalization of weed to an extent. I mean, think of the money it could bring, the public or private sectors. Weed stores would be a new business, as long as it is regulated, I don't weed to be the next alcohol and be a cheap way to 'solve' problems.
I'm not a fan of drugs at all. The idea of something addictive that screws you over kind of creeps me out. Maybe you can do it in moderation, but will you? I don't know, I don't like leaving this kind of thing to chance.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Aug 30, 2011, 02:33:49 PM
I'm not a fan of drugs at all. The idea of something addictive that screws you over kind of creeps me out. Maybe you can do it in moderation, but will you? I don't know, I don't like leaving this kind of thing to chance.
^ This
I tried weed 1 time when i was in high school but it didn't do anything for me so yeah never did it again. Also i hate Hippies :P :laugh:
Wouldnt recommend them but then again where do you draw the line? alcohol, cigarettes...coffee. Anything can become addictive and subsequently harmful...everything in moderation I guess.
Someone very close to me is a full blown alcoholic and it has totally messed up their life. Lost job, family left them, heart attack, liver failure, cant stay sober so cant work so cant pay bills/mortgage etc basically f*cked at the tender age of 35 or so.
My advice stay well away.
This thread is legal? Seriously? O.o
I never used drugs. Ones upon the time - long time ago I tried to smoke something (not sure what it was) but it had awful taste and nothing more. I prefer cigarettes. ;)
But a few times I had to take drugs I think nobody here tried - morphin, fentanil and similar derivatives - after surgeries, when it was really needed. And my experience with it was very unusual: visual hallucinations, sensory hallucinations, strong spatial illusions (no problem then, I was lying down without possibility to move even my leg ;) ); it was mixed always with antidepressants, so I felt really strange. ;D
My experiences with Tramadol/Tramal were very awful, so I had no chance to become addict to these pills.
Honestly, nothing more...
Quote from: Alienseseses on Aug 30, 2011, 02:33:49 PM
I'm not a fan of drugs at all. The idea of something addictive that screws you over kind of creeps me out. Maybe you can do it in moderation, but will you? I don't know, I don't like leaving this kind of thing to chance.
Exactly my thoughts.
Oh, I'm addicted to coffeine but this effect is visible when I can't drink my coffee... ;)
Quote from: Vulhala on Aug 30, 2011, 02:24:49 PM
My personal views on it is if that's what you want to do, and it doesn't directly hurt anyone by your doing it ie robbing people to pay for it, then have at it. Just know that weed in particular will make you lazy as shit, and swallow all your money :laugh:
I'm all for it being legalised however. It could be produced safely and in sufficient quantities to satisfy demand. And in the current economic climate, the new tax revenue stream would be a godsend for the government.
This. There are ways to explore it but because no one in Western society believes in moving forward, it won't happen. At least not anytime soon.
Quote from: howardvegas on Aug 30, 2011, 02:50:53 PM
Wouldnt recommend them but then again where do you draw the line? alcohol, cigarettes...coffee. Anything can become addictive and subsequently harmful...everything in moderation I guess.
Someone very close to me is a full blown alcoholic and it has totally messed up their life. Lost job, family left them, heart attack, liver failure, cant stay sober so cant work so cant pay bills/mortgage etc basically f*cked at the tender age of 35 or so.
My advice stay well away.
I drink coffee on occasion. The difference between caffeine and illegal drugs is that while one can get addicted to caffeine, it won't kill you, or screw up your judgement centers- as far as I know, I'm no expert.
And I don't drink- I've heard enough horror stories. I'm not legal age anyway, so I have an excuse.
Quote from: The PredBen on Aug 30, 2011, 02:29:26 PM
I support the legalization of weed to an extent. I mean, think of the money it could bring, the public or private sectors. Weed stores would be a new business, as long as it is regulated, I don't weed to be the next alcohol and be a cheap way to 'solve' problems.
Exactly. Dont get me wrong, I'm not advocated a free for all. Maybe only in certain cities? Like Amsterdam for example. As far as I know, things there run fine. Would have to speak to a resident of course to get the 'on the ground' viewpoint, but from what I know it works. And I'm only talking weed here. Pills and powders can GTFO.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 30, 2011, 03:06:24 PM
This. There are ways to explore it but because no one in Western society believes in moving forward, it won't happen. At least not anytime soon.
I know and it's stupid. For years now it's been a case of the politicians ignorantly banning it just on principle. And who wins? The criminals do. Twice. Because not only do they make ridiculous amounts of profit from it, they also deplete Police resources by forcing them to chase them. And it's not even like the police even take it that seriously anyway? Where I live people can and do walk right past the Old Bill smoking a joint, and they don't say a single thing about it. They're not bothered because in their eyes, it's not the 3 kids sitting around smoking they worry about, it's the 3 kids sitting in a park or shopping centre drinking White Cider. Weed makes kids too lazy to act up. Cider makes them violent and abusive. And they're both just as accessible.
Quote from: daywalker on Aug 30, 2011, 10:21:03 AM
Just wondering whats your thoughts on drugs?
Just say no, man! Drugs will only give you a temporary satisfaction but the shame will last a lot longer. Play some sports. I know, get into Wingsuit Base Jumping. Probably one of the coolest things a human can do!
Quote from: Vulhala on Aug 30, 2011, 03:44:52 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 30, 2011, 03:06:24 PM
This. There are ways to explore it but because no one in Western society believes in moving forward, it won't happen. At least not anytime soon.
I know and it's stupid. For years now it's been a case of the politicians ignorantly banning it just on principle. And who wins? The criminals do. Twice. Because not only do they make ridiculous amounts of profit from it, they also deplete Police resources by forcing them to chase them. And it's not even like the police even take it that seriously anyway? Where I live people can and do walk right past the Old Bill smoking a joint, and they don't say a single thing about it. They're not bothered because in their eyes, it's not the 3 kids sitting around smoking they worry about, it's the 3 kids sitting in a park or shopping centre drinking White Cider. Weed makes kids too lazy to act up. Cider makes them violent and abusive. And they're both just as accessible.
CHILDREN! CHILDREN! CHILDREN!!!!
That's the magic word. Toss it into any discussion and immediately whatever you were discussing becomes a touchy subject. Kids won't start using drugs simply because they would be legalised, nor would anyone else. The crux of the problem I think is that people just instinctively assume that if the drugs were legal, then people will just throw their arms up and start snorting all the coke in the world. That's the furthest thing from the truth. If anything cases will decrease because people won't be criminalized for their actions. It's only the addicts that will have a problem and without additional legal problems, they can actively seek proper rehab and get the help they need.
All any drug amounts to is tweaking the incoming data to your brain. I could never be satisfied with just tweaking the incoming data, I have enough trouble processing this stuff as it is. Pass.
I just can't say no to my beloved Mary Jane. And in a month or so, it's open season for shrooms! Goody!
Other than that, no thank you. I don't even drink coffee. Used to be a tobacco smoker, but I quit more than a year ago and when it comes to alcohol, I prefer only beer now.
Also, legalize that shit! It's hypocritical as f**k when our governments sell booze and tobacco, yet ban everything else.
The war on drugs is pointless and does far more damage than drugs themselves.
I'm quite the mary jane aficionado. I also take a liking to various hallucinogens such as psychedelic fungi and the occasional blotter trip. Question is does the fact that I smoke a government banned "drug" make me a scumbag/low-life? I mean I do get stuff accomplished and other than making me not want to perform physical exercise. I'm still able to function quite normally.
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Quote from: daywalker on Aug 30, 2011, 10:21:03 AM
Just wondering whats your thoughts on drugs?
Just say no, man! Drugs will only give you a temporary satisfaction but the shame will last a lot longer. Play some sports. I know, get into Wingsuit Base Jumping. Probably one of the coolest things a human can do!
Right on! Haven't tried the wingsuit yet but skydiving is a real high (no pun intended). Try opening the throttle on a sportbike or jumping out of an airplane for a real rush. Why would anyone want to mess up their brain and waste their time like that like? No thanks.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Aug 30, 2011, 02:33:49 PM
I'm not a fan of drugs at all. The idea of something addictive that screws you over kind of creeps me out. Maybe you can do it in moderation, but will you? I don't know, I don't like leaving this kind of thing to chance.
Yes. I know harder drinkers than I know hard drug users, and I know a
lot of drug users.
I'll just leave this here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX1CvW38cHA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX1CvW38cHA#)
Love 'em.
I never used drugs and don't plan too. My Dad took them and almost got killed back in 1997, he barely made it out alive. Since then, I never wanted to use them.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Aug 30, 2011, 06:38:14 PM
I never used drugs and don't plan too. My Dad took them and almost got killed back in 1997, he barely made it out alive. Since then, I never wanted to use them.
Oh yeah "them".
you never want to take that one. Almost as deadly as weed.
Never used drugs personally, other than alcohol, so I can't comment from experience.
However, the prohibition against drugs now is just as ineffective as the one against alcohol back in the '20s. All it does is make the substances more dangerous to use, as there are no safety regulations that must be met, and gives money and power to criminals. In fact, the US War on Drugs is undermining their War on Terror. If heroin were legal, then the poppies required would be grown in Europe or North America. But, as it is, they are grown in Afghanistan, and are the main source of income for the Taliban.
Weekly Marie Jane user here.
It's pretty useful for The Creation Process (art) and to put stress away.
Among every drug I've used I have to say:
The worse drugs I've tried are alcohol and cigarette since I'm addicted to cigarette and my kidney do not appreciate alcohol at all like everyone's kidney. Weed is definitely the least dangerous I've tried.
If you haven't watch The Union, do it: The Union (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007)
Had some bad times on booze [kills and injuries more people than all the illegal drugs combined], great times on drugs.
I remember being in work and talking to the girl next to me, who still looked wrecked from the night before. She told me she lost her phone, couldn't remember half the night, spent all her money - all worn like a badge of pride ... she then asks what I did the night before. Sat in, watched a movie, smoked a joint with some friends, I said. The disgust on her face.
I find most people's aversion to illegal drugs is due to them being heavily mythologised.
I saw what prescription drugs mixed with alcohol did to my husband before it killed him. It turned him into a monster with a pickled brain. To each his own until it hurts someone else, my thoughts on it.
I had problems with cops several times under the influence of alcohol (fined two times, once ended up in a police car and once even at the police station), I lost money, cellphones, engaged in fights, destroyed bar furniture and caused general mayhem almost every time I got drunk on vodka.
Not once did any of this happen while I was stoned.
Believe me when I say this - alcohol is MUCH more dangerous than pot. The fact it's legal and weed isn't is major bullshit.
More people die of alcohol-related deaths than any other drug in North America. The main difference is that booze is socially accepted and widely available but other drugs aren't.
Quote from: AliceApocalypse on Aug 30, 2011, 07:27:22 PM
I saw what prescription drugs mixed with alcohol did to my husband before it killed him. It turned him into a monster with a pickled brain. To each his own until it hurts someone else, my thoughts on it.
I'm sorry for your loss :(
The thing about weed is, is that while it does get you high, it doesn't seem to cause serious damage to your body. Compare that with alcohol, which does both. I don't really support the use of marijuana in general, but if it's legalized, crimes involving it would go away or at least be reduced.
Just my thoughts.
Quote from: AliceApocalypse on Aug 30, 2011, 07:27:22 PM
I saw what prescription drugs mixed with alcohol did to my husband before it killed him. It turned him into a monster with a pickled brain. To each his own until it hurts someone else, my thoughts on it.
I'm very sorry to hear this. This made me reconsider some of my views.
Thanks guys, it's been a few years since it happened and really he did it to himself. Anything in excess can be harmful, everything he did was completely legal just in excessive doses.
Quote from: AliceApocalypse on Aug 30, 2011, 07:27:22 PM
I saw what prescription drugs mixed with alcohol did to my husband before it killed him. It turned him into a monster with a pickled brain. To each his own until it hurts someone else, my thoughts on it.
I've red your story in the bad things that happened to you topic, and i'm indeed sorry to hear this :-[ But i have to say i do have respect for you after i've red it :) Just had to say that ;)
I think drugs and drinking are worthless and or stupid, so I don't do either.
Never done anything more hardcore than pot. Although had my friend been able to get his hands on acid I would have done that but he wasn't able to get any. I don't actively pursue acquiring drugs, it's more of an "if it's there I'll do it" type thing.
I like beer..for whatever reason I don't like most hard alcohols anymore. Particularly vodka. I hate vodka.
'Bearer, if you ever find yourself in the position where Acid is available, pass. You're really not missing anything there.
As for booze, I can't comment except to say that I finally dried out 2 months ago after 10 whole years of being a full on drunk. I'm not even at the stage of drinking the coffee yet, I can smell it brewing. The damage I did while I was drunk is barely repairable. I've lost friends, embarrassed myself in front of everyone I know, hurt family in the worst ways, pretty much missed the first year of my sons life, been arrested countless times for fighting.....
The shame alone is enough to never want me to even look at another pint. Once that shit gets under your skin, you're in for the ride. If you're lucky you'll hit rock bottom and have the people around you to pick you back up. If not, well, Alice knows that scene :(
I had fun with acid. And salvia. Had two drinks this year. I'd rather sit at home in comfort with friends than go out, get smashed, and get beaten up by some drunk areshole in a striped polo shirt.
Quote from: Vulhala on Aug 30, 2011, 11:25:19 PM
'Bearer, if you ever find yourself in the position where Acid is available, pass. You're really not missing anything there.
Must of been terrible Acid because i done it 3 weeks ago and i thought it was snowing outside,and a shaolin monk was on the TV telling me about all the bad things i done in my life and that i am a good person.I gelt enlightened to say the least.
Never done drugs but I frown upon them since I'm straightedge X X
I hate how anything like drugs or beer for that matter people feel is the answer to all their issues. How many times have I heard someone say I"M DEPRESSED HATE LIFE GONNA GO SMOKE A JOINT AND GET DRUNK!! ::)
Sure that removes the problem at present time but its only gonna cause issues later in life and piss you off more.
Quote from: Effectz on Aug 31, 2011, 12:00:57 AM
Quote from: Vulhala on Aug 30, 2011, 11:25:19 PM
'Bearer, if you ever find yourself in the position where Acid is available, pass. You're really not missing anything there.
Must of been terrible Acid because i done it 3 weeks ago and i thought it was snowing outside,and a shaolin monk was on the TV telling me about all the bad things i done in my life and that i am a good person.I gelt enlightened to say the least.
And reading your post, you don't think there's anything strange about that?
I'll clarify my position and then leave. Marijuana is a plant. Our biosphere evolved for
millions of years before we even turned up. Now, given the fact that said plant evolved alongside us, and has featured for thousands of years in some cultures, it must be at least as safe as tobacco. And it is consumed
unrefined.
Acid is an artificial product. It's synthesised. Designed to mash your brain up as much as possible. They are
not the same thing at all.
And I know Opium and Cocaine are derived from natural plants, but in their natural state they're pretty harmless. Once refined, you get crack and smack.
Answer me a question, would you drop with kids about?
Never have done any illegal drugs, never will. Don't even drink or smoke.
Also, an open letter to potheads. Take a bath, you stink. I do think it's cute that they want it legalized though. Yeah, keeping tabs on our own, safe, prescription medications is going so well, with the drastic rise in overdose deaths we've seen this decade.
I fully support more employers going the drug test route, and wish it would be more common, with surprise drug exams happening more frequently.
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Aug 31, 2011, 12:35:10 AM
Never have done any illegal drugs, never will. Don't even drink or smoke.
Also, an open letter to potheads. Take a bath, you stink. I do think it's cute that they want it legalized though. Yeah, keeping tabs on our own, safe, prescription medications is going so well, with the drastic rise in overdose deaths we've seen this decade.
I fully support more employers going the drug test route, and wish it would be more common, with surprise drug exams happening more frequently.
Its always funny how I see junior high kids go crazy over LEGALIZE IT stickers or shotglasses and want to buy them.......but their mothers with them.
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Aug 31, 2011, 12:35:10 AM
Yeah, keeping tabs on our own, safe, prescription medications is going so well, with the drastic rise in overdose deaths we've seen this decade.
It is impossible to overdose on marijuana. The sheer amount you would have to smoke would be several times your own body weight.
My thoughts are all over the place when I'm on drugs.
Quote from: Sylizar on Aug 30, 2011, 09:25:42 PM
I think drugs and drinking are worthless and or stupid, so I don't do either.
I agree with this. I always ask my friends why do they waste money on that crap and I get the same answer everytime: "Just to have fun" or "To look cool". Really?! I can have as much fun as you without drinking or doing that shit.
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Aug 31, 2011, 12:35:10 AM
Also, an open letter to potheads. Take a bath, you stink. I do think it's cute that they want it legalized though. Yeah, keeping tabs on our own, safe, prescription medications is going so well, with the drastic rise in overdose deaths we've seen this decade.
I'm assuming you have stats to prove this?
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Aug 31, 2011, 12:35:10 AMI fully support more employers going the drug test route, and wish it would be more common, with surprise drug exams happening more frequently.
I hate drug testing. I fail to see what someone's past time has to do with their ability to work, especially if they're turning in results.
Nothing wrong with a little marijuana used in moderation. I definitely agree that the affects got nothin' on the wallop alcohol can pack. Had a couple mind-blowing experiences with mushrooms way back, but can't see doing it again. As for the harder stuff like coke or heroin... yeah, keep 'em away.
I've had several chemically-enhanced experiences and I've turned out okay.
Each to their own. As long as you're not hurting anybody, go for it. It's all about self control. I never tried any drugs (not including Sweet Ms. Mary) until I was 23 and felt I was mature enough to handle it.
A lot of my friends were on the pills and other shit from 15 onwards and some of their brains are permanently fried. It's sad to bump into an old high school friend that struggles to hold a normal conversation anymore.
As for weed, I love to indulge. My theory is its all good until it starts effecting your day to day life. If it gets in the way of friendships, relationships, careers or responsibilities, its not worth it. And that includes alcohol.
I have tried any drug besides alcohol. I don't plan to either, not only because the effects are bad but because I don't know how to get a hold of any, not to mention the stuff is expensive. Why waste the money?
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 31, 2011, 02:49:05 AMWhy waste the money?
If you feel you're wasting your money, it's because you haven't been buying the good stuff!
;D
Always helpful, mal.
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Aug 31, 2011, 12:40:54 AM
It is impossible to overdose on marijuana. The sheer amount you would have to smoke would be several times your own body weight.
You completely missed the point. I never said anything about overdosing on marijuana, it was a slight to the idea that, America at least, has the ability to properly regulate the substance, as we've seen with our own safe over the counter and prescription medications.
Doing drugs occasionally for recreation (by drugs I'm meaning pot in this case) isn't to bad. It allows you to pass time by quicker and keep yourself relaxed. That being said, I don't agree with people becoming dependent on drugs, or any substance unless they medically need it.
I've met several people who can't go a day without Marijuana. While I don't have a problem with what they do with their free time (they're all very hard working people) I find it rather sad that they need it to keep a day enjoyable.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 31, 2011, 01:56:54 AM
I hate drug testing. I fail to see what someone's past time has to do with their ability to work, especially if they're turning in results.
Considering what it costs to employ workers in the modern age, and the risks employers take doing so, they should absolutely have the right to know if you're on something or have been within 24 hours of working.
For example, my father's business can often see his workers heading into five different states, and the insurance coverage to work out of state can often reach more than 10 grand a month. That is a massive investment in only insurance. The employer has no right to know what his worker is putting in his body? He should only worry about his worker when he's behind the wheel of one of his company vehicles, or working on one of the half million dollar machines? He has no right to know what he was doing prior to working with all this expensive equipment?
I know I'm a tad off topic, but the lack of employer's rights nowadays is disgusting.
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Aug 31, 2011, 04:02:37 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 31, 2011, 01:56:54 AM
I hate drug testing. I fail to see what someone's past time has to do with their ability to work, especially if they're turning in results.
Considering what it costs to employ workers in the modern age, and the risks employers take doing so, they should absolutely have the right to know if you're on something or have been within 24 hours of working.
For example, my father's business can often see his workers heading into five different states, and the insurance coverage to work out of state can often reach more than 10 grand a month. That is a massive investment in only insurance. The employer has no right to know what his worker is putting in his body? He should only worry about his worker when he's behind the wheel of one of his company vehicles, or working on one of the half million dollar machines? He has no right to know what he was doing prior to working with all this expensive equipment?
I know I'm a tad off topic, but the lack of employer's rights nowadays is disgusting.
What about lifestyles though? Should an employer monitor what you eat and drink and how much you exercise? Perhaps your health and fitness can effect your ability to perform at 100%. Would you be comfortable with a sleep monitor to make sure you are getting the required hours of shut eye every night?
Quote from: Ghostface on Aug 31, 2011, 04:07:13 AM
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Aug 31, 2011, 04:02:37 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 31, 2011, 01:56:54 AM
I hate drug testing. I fail to see what someone's past time has to do with their ability to work, especially if they're turning in results.
Considering what it costs to employ workers in the modern age, and the risks employers take doing so, they should absolutely have the right to know if you're on something or have been within 24 hours of working.
For example, my father's business can often see his workers heading into five different states, and the insurance coverage to work out of state can often reach more than 10 grand a month. That is a massive investment in only insurance. The employer has no right to know what his worker is putting in his body? He should only worry about his worker when he's behind the wheel of one of his company vehicles, or working on one of the half million dollar machines? He has no right to know what he was doing prior to working with all this expensive equipment?
I know I'm a tad off topic, but the lack of employer's rights nowadays is disgusting.
What about lifestyles though? Should an employer monitor what you eat and drink and how much you exercise? Perhaps your health and fitness can effect your ability to perform at 100%. Would you be comfortable with a sleep monitor to make sure you are getting the required hours of shut eye every night?
Personally, if my employee is doing a good job, than I can care less if he's doing Marijuana in his free time. However, if his work becomes sloppy, and he has the signature signs of doing Marijuana, than yes, I'd want him to do a drug test.
Annual physicals are required as an insurance precaution for the type of heavy labor they do. Overall health is checked. What? You don't want them to be allowed to check this stuff anymore?
See, you're dealing with false equivalency here.
Quote from: The PredBen on Aug 31, 2011, 04:10:32 AM
Quote from: Ghostface on Aug 31, 2011, 04:07:13 AM
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Aug 31, 2011, 04:02:37 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 31, 2011, 01:56:54 AM
I hate drug testing. I fail to see what someone's past time has to do with their ability to work, especially if they're turning in results.
Considering what it costs to employ workers in the modern age, and the risks employers take doing so, they should absolutely have the right to know if you're on something or have been within 24 hours of working.
For example, my father's business can often see his workers heading into five different states, and the insurance coverage to work out of state can often reach more than 10 grand a month. That is a massive investment in only insurance. The employer has no right to know what his worker is putting in his body? He should only worry about his worker when he's behind the wheel of one of his company vehicles, or working on one of the half million dollar machines? He has no right to know what he was doing prior to working with all this expensive equipment?
I know I'm a tad off topic, but the lack of employer's rights nowadays is disgusting.
What about lifestyles though? Should an employer monitor what you eat and drink and how much you exercise? Perhaps your health and fitness can effect your ability to perform at 100%. Would you be comfortable with a sleep monitor to make sure you are getting the required hours of shut eye every night?
Personally, if my employee is doing a good job, than I can care less if he's doing Marijuana in his free time. However, if his work becomes sloppy, and he has the signature signs of doing Marijuana, than yes, I'd want him to do a drug test.
Absolutely. I agree that if it is affecting your job, your employer should have a say in what goes on after hours. If it doesn't then they should just leave it alone.
Having said that there are numerous drugs that have a physical effect on you for days. These would definitely effect your work and if you're going to check for one group of drugs might as well do the whole lot. For industries where safety comes into it I can see why they would drug test.
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Aug 31, 2011, 04:19:03 AM
Annual physicals are required as an insurance precaution for the type of heavy labor they do. Overall health is checked. What? You don't want them to be allowed to check this stuff anymore?
See, you're dealing with false equivalency here.
Perhaps. How about a sleep test though? If there were an economical test to check how much sleep you had over the last month, would you be happy with tests at random?
Quote from: Ghostface on Aug 31, 2011, 04:23:05 AM
Perhaps. How about a sleep test though? If there were an economical test to check how much sleep you had over the last month, would you be happy with tests at random?
Physical exhaustion is easily detectable without any form of testing. Same can't be said for the leisure type of illegal substances.
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Quote from: Ghostface on Aug 31, 2011, 04:23:05 AM
Perhaps. How about a sleep test though? If there were an economical test to check how much sleep you had over the last month, would you be happy with tests at random?
Physical exhaustion is easily detectable without any form of testing. Same can't be said for the leisure type of illegal substances.
Not always. Sometimes a lack of sleep isn't detectable. Some people don't show signs of fatigue as easily as others.
Having said all that though I do believe in drug testing in certain industries. It really is necessary no matter how you look at it.
I would say don't try it until your absolutely sure you can handle it. And I'm not talking the super addictive hard to get off shit like heroin, meth or cocaine. That shit should always be avoided.
Recreational drugs like weed and alcohol can be fine in limited doses. I've a friend thats a f**king idiot now because he's been blowed every day since we were about fifteen together. I can't even stand to be around him anymore because he's dumber than a box of rocks.
Alcohol is WAY more dangerous though. If you drive 45 mph while high on weed if feels like your going 70. Your paranoid as shit. And all you want to do is go to taco bell, order half the menu, and go back home before the police show up. Alcohol is different. It emboldens you. I've known many people from my graduating class that were constantly drunk and are no longer with us. It's one thing to recreationally drink every now and again. Another to wrap your car around a tree going so fast that when your body is recovered your family has trouble identifying your remains.
Which has happened more than once in my experience.
I knew a guy in hs who got drunk, got on his rice burner going about 70 and drifted into a minivan. They found body parts of his fifty yards away in a f**king corn field.
Slow your roles sons.
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Aug 31, 2011, 03:42:07 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Aug 31, 2011, 12:40:54 AM
It is impossible to overdose on marijuana. The sheer amount you would have to smoke would be several times your own body weight.
You completely missed the point. I never said anything about overdosing on marijuana, it was a slight to the idea that, America at least, has the ability to properly regulate the substance, as we've seen with our own safe over the counter and prescription medications.
Oh, I see. My bad.
From what I've seen from others I don't like drugs, nor have I ever done them. In my city they're all over the place, my own brother is a pot-head, see he's an example of an idiot, he ditches school, steals money, gets in trouble with the police all because he decides to smoke weed all day, he literally does it at least 3 times a day. He's an idiot, I recently graduated from high school and everyone I knew was either smoking weed, popping extasy, snorting cocaine, or inhaling airduster. I had my group of friends who didn't do drugs, we all rarely drank but I've never been drunk, a slight buzz at the most and it was only once.
Is everyone who smokes weed bad though? No, I know people who smoke weed almost every day and still managed to get a 4.0 every report card, it just depends on how you decide to act. Do you want to do it to have a good time? Or do it because you think it makes you look cooler, believe me people might say Mary Jane isn't a gateway drug, and maybe to some it isn't but to most people I know it is.
I'm sober when it comes to any drug, and I rarely drink, and it doesn't mean I'm better then someone who smokes weed, it just means I choose to live a sober life rather then possibly end up like my younger brother who at this point has no future.
QuoteAlcohol is WAY more dangerous though. If you drive 45 mph while high on weed if feels like your going 70. Your paranoid as shit. And all you want to do is go to taco bell, order half the menu, and go back home before the police show up.
Or on the other hand...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTlUcfY8LoE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTlUcfY8LoE#ws)
Was not expecting that when I started watching!
I see someone mentioned salvia. Tried it, but NEVER EVER again am I touching that horrible plant.
It felt like I was completely disconnected from my body and I was really worried I wouldn't go back. :D
Oh goody, the straight edge crowd arrived. Why is it that every time a straight edge dude posts in a drug related thread I can almost smell the smug around them? No really, the smug is all over the place. Can you smell it too?
Quote from: SM on Aug 31, 2011, 06:19:55 AM
Or on the other hand...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTlUcfY8LoE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTlUcfY8LoE#ws)
Oh, Christ, one of those Aussie traffic vids.
f**k that shit, I ain't watching.
Quote from: Pux Almighty on Aug 31, 2011, 07:30:43 AM
I see someone mentioned salvia. Tried it, but NEVER EVER again am I touching that horrible plant.
It felt like I was completely disconnected from my body and I was really worried I wouldn't go back. :D
Aw man, had nothing but great times! My friend thought he was in an amphitheater :-\ :laugh:
Quote from: Vulhala on Aug 30, 2011, 03:44:52 PM
Quote from: The PredBen on Aug 30, 2011, 02:29:26 PM
I support the legalization of weed to an extent. I mean, think of the money it could bring, the public or private sectors. Weed stores would be a new business, as long as it is regulated, I don't weed to be the next alcohol and be a cheap way to 'solve' problems.
Exactly. Dont get me wrong, I'm not advocated a free for all. Maybe only in certain cities? Like Amsterdam for example. As far as I know, things there run fine. Would have to speak to a resident of course to get the 'on the ground' viewpoint, but from what I know it works. And I'm only talking weed here. Pills and powders can GTFO.
Sup, Amsterdam resident here.
Legal weed works perfectly fine. There's plenty of establishments, called coffeeshops, where you can enter and legally buy weed (but only if you're 18+, they ask for ID) and have a nice place filled with like-minded people to consume it. If you don't want to, it's perfectly fine to go smoke your blunt somewhere else. The nice thing about weed is that it doesn't cause antisocial and disturbing behaviour like alcohol can do. High people don't bother other people. Me and my friends get high from time to time and we usually just sit around in a park or in a bar feeling good and keeping ourselves to ourselves. Everyone does this.
Well, maybe not everyone, but I've never met anyone here that's addicted to the stuff or causes problems because of it. So if there are, they also keep themselves and their self-destructive behaviour to themselves.
Weed's only significant problem is the fact it can act as a gateway drug. First you're doing weed, next thing you know you're popping pills at a party and it all goes downhill from there.
Quote from: Pux Almighty on Aug 31, 2011, 07:30:43 AM
I see someone mentioned salvia. Tried it, but NEVER EVER again am I touching that horrible plant.
It felt like I was completely disconnected from my body and I was really worried I wouldn't go back. :D
Oh goody, the straight edge crowd arrived. Why is it that every time a straight edge dude posts in a drug related thread I can almost smell the smug around them? No really, the smug is all over the place. Can you smell it too?
Hah. xD
I wouldn't mind trying salvia or L.S.D at all, in fact I would given the chance. Plus it's way better for you than fags or alcohol, as are a few other drugs like cocaine.
Weed I've tried and wasn't too hot on; just not that good. Plus take it regularly and you can kiss your brain good bye in later life.
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Aug 31, 2011, 11:46:08 AM
Sup, Amsterdam resident here.
Legal weed works perfectly fine. There's plenty of establishments, called coffeeshops, where you can enter and legally buy weed (but only if you're 18+, they ask for ID) and have a nice place filled with like-minded people to consume it. If you don't want to, it's perfectly fine to go smoke your blunt somewhere else. The nice thing about weed is that it doesn't cause antisocial and disturbing behaviour like alcohol can do. High people don't bother other people. Me and my friends get high from time to time and we usually just sit around in a park or in a bar feeling good and keeping ourselves to ourselves. Everyone does this.
Well, maybe not everyone, but I've never met anyone here that's addicted to the stuff or causes problems because of it. So if there are, they also keep themselves and their self-destructive behaviour to themselves.
My friend's heading for the 'Damn today. The bastard.
QuoteWeed's only significant problem is the fact it can act as a gateway drug. First you're doing weed, next thing you know you're popping pills at a party and it all goes downhill from there.
I don't think this is true. Cigarettes and alcohol have been shown to be easier gateway drugs due to their legality and acceptance in society. I know plenty of people myself who don't smoke grass because it's too relaxing, but prefer to drink and pop pills for party flavour, know what I mean? That's a slippery slop fallacy right there to say weed smokers become pill-poppers simply because they've smoked grass. The first time I popped a pill I was drunk, not high. Same for cocaine.
QuoteWeed's only significant problem is the fact it can act as a gateway drug. First you're doing weed, next thing you know you're popping pills at a party and it all goes downhill from there.
I would like to add that this is often caused
because weed is illegal. When you're buying pot on the black market from a dealer, there's a chance he'll introduce you to some of his other "product". Can't happen in a coffee shop.
You know what really pisses me off? In the neighboring country of Czech Republic, one may grow up to three plants per year for personal use. In my country.. well, let's just say one is lucky if he doesn't get to jail for holding 5 grams.
Only one political party supports decriminalization of pot, so I don't think the laws will change here anytime soon. :(
QuoteI wouldn't mind trying salvia or L.S.D at all, in fact I would given the chance. Plus it's way better for you than fags or alcohol, as are a few other drugs like cocaine.
I'd do LSD just because I love Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. And yeah, I probably would try a lil coke for obvious reasons..
Spoiler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T1GOCCaiWA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T1GOCCaiWA#)
But never on a regular basis. Generally speaking, drugs are bad. M'kay? ;)
Between caffeine and alcohol I'm all set.
Quote from: Pux Almighty on Aug 31, 2011, 12:09:10 PM
QuoteWeed's only significant problem is the fact it can act as a gateway drug. First you're doing weed, next thing you know you're popping pills at a party and it all goes downhill from there.
I would like to add that this is often caused because weed is illegal. When you're buying pot on the black market from a dealer, there's a chance he'll introduce you to some of his other "product". Can't happen in a coffee shop.
It's not the dealer that introduces you to the stuff, it's the friends you make in that environment. Hell, I have friends that were doing XTC before they were even 18. Just because weed's legal here doesn't mean there isn't a black market people go to. :P
Im not a regular drug user so for me and my group of friends what we do is fine. Sometimes we'll have some pills and some coke at a gig or a party but then we'll go months without having any at all. I had a couple of pills at Leeds festival this weekend (purely because its so damn expensive to get pissed its easier to just pop a pill and then dance the night away at the relentless stage or silent disco) but I probably wont have any more for some months so its not a big deal.
I dont need or even feel the need to take any everytime I go out.
Quote from: Keg on Aug 31, 2011, 12:19:21 PM
Im not a regular drug user so for me and my group of friends what we do is fine. Sometimes we'll have some pills and some coke at a gig or a party but then we'll go months without having any at all. I had a couple of pills at Leeds festival this weekend (purely because its so damn expensive to get pissed its easier to just pop a pill and then dance the night away at the relentless stage or silent disco) but I probably wont have any more for some months so its not a big deal.
I dont need or even feel the need to take any everytime I go out.
You're right. In good company you can get pills for free, if you're buying the most I've been set back is £2-3. And all you really need is one. For a whole night.
Quote from: Vulhala on Aug 31, 2011, 12:30:30 AM
Answer me a question, would you drop with kids about?
I have no kids but i would'nt do acid with kids about no way.I've only done it a handfull of times,and it doesn't
mash your brain up,it just alters your perceptions.
Marijuana should be legalized though,i smoke it occasionally but the real reason it should be legalized is medically.My cousins wife had Motor Neuron syndrome before she passed away,all the medicines the docs gave her done f**k all.So my cousin would come to me to get him Marijuana for her.Before she smoked it she would get uncontrollable tremors,and when she smoked it they would subside.
@ Snowdog - thank you, your a sweetheart :)
Quote from: Vulhala on Aug 30, 2011, 11:25:19 PM
The damage I did while I was drunk is barely repairable. I've lost friends, embarrassed myself in front of everyone I know, hurt family in the worst ways, pretty much missed the first year of my sons life, been arrested countless times for fighting.....
The shame alone is enough to never want me to even look at another pint. Once that shit gets under your skin, you're in for the ride. If you're lucky you'll hit rock bottom and have the people around you to pick you back up. If not, well, Alice knows that scene :(
Vulhala, words can't express how proud I am of you. It takes a brave person to pull yourself up from the bottom, most people can't. As far as any remorse over your actions, let it go. Every day is a new day and your family and freinds will love and forgive you. In all honesty, if my husband had recovered from his addiction I would have forgiven all he had done, so would every one else. His family and friends would have been spared mourning his loss. Now it's too late for him but not for you.
You have many wonderful years ahead of you with your family & friends. Nothing good can come of looking back, since your not going that way. It sounds like you have a great support team behind you, please consider myself one too :)
I'll try to find the lyrics to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEFa1f_WCms#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEFa1f_WCms#ws)
Nikki Sixx recovering from drug addiction, "there's nothing like a trail of blood to find your way back home."
Life is beautiful! It's not easy, but well worth the ride.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Frapgenius%2Fnormal_CocaineRickJames-300x240.jpg&hash=cfc2b0b19d20578711848b358f638985570204f8)
For those that have tried weed once and felt nothing, try once more. The first time is always like that, heaps of peeps have told me. Kind of like female virginity, the more you do it the better it feels ;)
There are also medical implications associated with marijuana. Cancer patients going through chemotherapy take it to reduce sickness and increase appetite (munchies).
Dont get me wrong, drugs f**k you up. The problem is moderation. And what goes up must come down, sometimes the comedown is harder than others but hey its a helluva ride.
Quote from: Valaquen on Aug 31, 2011, 12:23:07 PM
Quote from: Keg on Aug 31, 2011, 12:19:21 PM
Im not a regular drug user so for me and my group of friends what we do is fine. Sometimes we'll have some pills and some coke at a gig or a party but then we'll go months without having any at all. I had a couple of pills at Leeds festival this weekend (purely because its so damn expensive to get pissed its easier to just pop a pill and then dance the night away at the relentless stage or silent disco) but I probably wont have any more for some months so its not a big deal.
I dont need or even feel the need to take any everytime I go out.
You're right. In good company you can get pills for free, if you're buying the most I've been set back is £2-3. And all you really need is one. For a whole night.
Its not just how expensive it is to get pissed at a festival but I find it hard too being a decent drinker. I cant be bothered to go to the bar 3 or four times during a band because I dont want to miss anything and I also hate needing a piss all the time. From 12 midday until the headliners finish ill only have 10 pints (which sets you back 40 snots at £4 a pint) which is f**k all over 11 hours. So when you go back to the tent and slope off to the silent disco or a dj tent theyre ideal. Of course you can then grab your cans from the tent and get stuck into those as well.
Quote from: Keg on Aug 31, 2011, 01:21:35 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Aug 31, 2011, 12:23:07 PM
Quote from: Keg on Aug 31, 2011, 12:19:21 PM
Im not a regular drug user so for me and my group of friends what we do is fine. Sometimes we'll have some pills and some coke at a gig or a party but then we'll go months without having any at all. I had a couple of pills at Leeds festival this weekend (purely because its so damn expensive to get pissed its easier to just pop a pill and then dance the night away at the relentless stage or silent disco) but I probably wont have any more for some months so its not a big deal.
I dont need or even feel the need to take any everytime I go out.
You're right. In good company you can get pills for free, if you're buying the most I've been set back is £2-3. And all you really need is one. For a whole night.
Its not just how expensive it is to get pissed at a festival but I find it hard too being a decent drinker. I cant be bothered to go to the bar 3 or four times during a band because I dont want to miss anything and I also hate needing a piss all the time. From 12 midday until the headliners finish ill only have 10 pints (which sets you back 40 snots at £4 a pint) which is f**k all over 11 hours. So when you go back to the tent and slope off to the silent disco or a dj tent theyre ideal. Of course you can then grab your cans from the tent and get stuck into those as well.
I've also done bad, bad things on booze that I haven't even done on drugs :laugh:
And where would you feel safer? Walking down a street where people are emerging from weed cafes, or walking down a street where the pubs are emptying? I'm down Weed Street, personally.
Weed street without a shadow of a doubt. Alcohol makes alot of people aggressive and gives them alot of dutch courage. Even the quietest, shy person can become a monster with too much alcohol. Plus I find alot of alcohol brings out emotions more so that couple with an increased sense of bravado and fearlessness can turn people ugly fast!
Seen it and done it myself. Not pretty.
Tell me about it. A buddy of mine got into a fight once because he was drunk, which also pissed me off for other reasons; almost ended our friendship. When I confronted him about it, he didn't apologize and just said "This is the way I am. I love partying". It's a sad state of affairs when the person can't admit they have a binge drinking problem.
Quote from: Keg on Aug 31, 2011, 01:40:28 PM
Weed street without a shadow of a doubt. Alcohol makes alot of people aggressive and gives them alot of dutch courage. Even the quietest, shy person can become a monster with too much alcohol. Plus I find alot of alcohol brings out emotions more so that couple with an increased sense of bravado and fearlessness can turn people ugly fast!
Seen it and done it myself. Not pretty.
I have a good friend who is very quiet, reserved, and generally is a great guy, but when he drinks he's a monster. He was in court last year for attacking a bouncer. Suffice to say, we smoke together more than we drink together.
Quote from: Valaquen on Aug 31, 2011, 01:57:11 PM
Quote from: Keg on Aug 31, 2011, 01:40:28 PM
Weed street without a shadow of a doubt. Alcohol makes alot of people aggressive and gives them alot of dutch courage. Even the quietest, shy person can become a monster with too much alcohol. Plus I find alot of alcohol brings out emotions more so that couple with an increased sense of bravado and fearlessness can turn people ugly fast!
Seen it and done it myself. Not pretty.
I have a good friend who is very quiet, reserved, and generally is a great guy, but when he drinks he's a monster. He was in court last year for attacking a bouncer. Suffice to say, we smoke together more than we drink together.
I've got a friend like that too. Completely normal, reserved and polite until he has a sip of alcohol. He instantly becomes what we refer to as the troll. He walks around tormenting anyone he can and loses complete control of his actions. A few times it's funny to watch him run around causing havok, but it gets old real quick. My girlfriend refuses to be around him at all now.
That sucks. I much prefer to smoke some joints and watch Casino Royale or something. My friend is much more tolerable that way :P
Quote from: Valaquen on Aug 31, 2011, 02:26:38 PM
That sucks. I much prefer to smoke some joints and watch Casino Royale or something. My friend is much more tolerable that way :P
Yeh I'm not too fussed. I'm 26 now so I tend to spend less time going out with the larger group and prefer to keep it low key anyway. Nothing like a joint and a jam session.
It's very nice to see that we're all capable, responsible, recreational drug users :)
The only drug I indulge in is alcohol. The extent I'll have some is almost always two beers a month when I go for wings. I rarely drinking heavy liquor because it's expensive and it's hassle making a martini lol
Quote from: Fujimaster on Aug 31, 2011, 01:16:43 PMFor those that have tried weed once and felt nothing, try once more. The first time is always like that, heaps of peeps have told me. Kind of like female virginity, the more you do it the better it feels ;)
Not for me. I was completely out of it the first time.
Then again, I jumped in the deep end with both feet and ate spacebrownies containing 2 grams of hasj.
I see people talking about Salvia, oh man, two Halloweens ago some friends of mine tried it for the first time and my friend recorded it on his camera, man. That video was terrible, the things they said and did were unbelievable! My friend told me felt like a half cat/owl that was in a book and somebody was turning the pages. Another friend was in the bathroom on the floor looking for a hole he kept seeing all over the place, while another friend was pissing all over the floor he was on. The most memorable moment was a kid who was on a bad trip yelling out "I DONT WANNA FEEL THIS WAY ANYMORE" so he started running thinking it would help make the feeling go away.
My opinion on it?
Don't try it man.
Quote from: MudButt on Aug 31, 2011, 05:28:37 PM
I see people talking about Salvia, oh man, two Halloweens ago some friends of mine tried it for the first time and my friend recorded it on his camera, man. That video was terrible, the things they said and did were unbelievable! My friend told me felt like a half cat/owl that was in a book and somebody was turning the pages. Another friend was in the bathroom on the floor looking for a hole he kept seeing all over the place, while another friend was pissing all over the floor he was on. The most memorable moment was a kid who was on a bad trip yelling out "I DONT WANNA FEEL THIS WAY ANYMORE" so he started running thinking it would help make the feeling go away.
My opinion on it?
Don't try it man.
I have a video of my brother on salvia. I won't share, but he sits and smiles throughout. I don't know anyone who's had the reaction of your friend :laugh:
I say try it in a responsible environment, like any old thing.
You dont see people fighting,pissing on the street and puking up everywhere when smoking Marijuana.Oh and Holland has the lowest drug related crime rate in Europe.
I've smoked week countless times but its something i don't do often at all but i enjoy it and i've tried Acid twice which on both occasions was an amazing experience but its extremely hard to get even with the connections that i have, just as well because if i do try it a third time i would want it to be my last due to the sheer amount of time a come-down cant take, it took me two days to feel my usual self after the second time i dropped acid but oh it was fun. ;D
I have no problems with drugs at all as you can tell, i do enjoy alchohol and i don't have a problem with smoking even though i don't do it apart from with weed,the culture here in britain amongst young people is to drink to the point that you either end up lying in the middle of the street or lay in a hospital and that is what i hate the most, i love getting drunk but only to a certain point and no more.
Quote from: Pux Almighty on Aug 31, 2011, 07:30:43 AM
Oh goody, the straight edge crowd arrived. Why is it that every time a straight edge dude posts in a drug related thread I can almost smell the smug around them? No really, the smug is all over the place. Can you smell it too?
I'm sure it smells better than the wonderful concoction of febreeze and axe body spray that potheads rely on.
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Sep 01, 2011, 02:31:32 AM
Quote from: Pux Almighty on Aug 31, 2011, 07:30:43 AM
Oh goody, the straight edge crowd arrived. Why is it that every time a straight edge dude posts in a drug related thread I can almost smell the smug around them? No really, the smug is all over the place. Can you smell it too?
I'm sure it smells better than the wonderful concoction of febreeze and axe body spray that potheads rely on.
I'm a textbook pothead and I'ved never covered up with cologne or frebreeze after a toke session. I like to let others know in public that I'm not ashamed to do a wrongly illegal plant product. I love seeing the faces of soccer moms at walmart as they walk by me :)
Although I support weed being legalized I don't really see any need for it unless you use it as a natural pain killer (i.e. medicinal marijuana)
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 01, 2011, 04:42:29 AM
Although I support weed being legalized I don't really see any need for it unless you use it as a natural pain killer (i.e. medicinal marijuana)
Because it makes everything better!
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Sep 01, 2011, 02:31:32 AM
Quote from: Pux Almighty on Aug 31, 2011, 07:30:43 AM
Oh goody, the straight edge crowd arrived. Why is it that every time a straight edge dude posts in a drug related thread I can almost smell the smug around them? No really, the smug is all over the place. Can you smell it too?
I'm sure it smells better than the wonderful concoction of febreeze and axe body spray that potheads rely on.
Thank you so much for proving me right.
*sniffs*
Oh crap, it's that stench of smug again, I better go light up some Cannabis for Men.
I think you smell wonderful, Pux. :3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arym0cBpRL8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arym0cBpRL8#ws)
Quote from: Sharp Sticks on Aug 30, 2011, 04:15:22 PM
All any drug amounts to is tweaking the incoming data to your brain. I could never be satisfied with just tweaking the incoming data, I have enough trouble processing this stuff as it is. Pass.
William Gibson couldn't have said it better himself :P
someone watched a little too much no maps for these territories.
really depends on the person when it comes to drugs, some people can keep their shit together, others not so much.
personally psychedelics are a no go for me, i like to be in control.
Quote from: Pux Almighty on Sep 01, 2011, 08:27:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arym0cBpRL8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arym0cBpRL8#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM9jhGiIAFM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM9jhGiIAFM#)
Quote from: Pn2501 on Sep 01, 2011, 08:58:04 AM
Quote from: Sharp Sticks on Aug 30, 2011, 04:15:22 PM
All any drug amounts to is tweaking the incoming data to your brain. I could never be satisfied with just tweaking the incoming data, I have enough trouble processing this stuff as it is. Pass.
personally psychedelics are a no go for me, i like to be in control.
The trick with psychedelics such as Shrooms/Acid etc is that you have to be in the right place and a good state on mind for it to be very effective and not turning into a nightmare or something very uncomfortable, set and setting is key. True that you can't 100% control it but you can at least set yourself up on what type of trip you'll be in for if you have the set and setting right. I've always felt that i was in more control over myself on weed/Acid than Alcohol. :)
Quote from: Ghostface on Sep 01, 2011, 04:50:02 AM
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 01, 2011, 04:42:29 AM
Although I support weed being legalized I don't really see any need for it unless you use it as a natural pain killer (i.e. medicinal marijuana)
Because it makes everything better!
Not really when I was high I felt a bit more relaxed. But certainly not what I excepted. I was more or less the same. It didn't make anything 'better' for me.
Quote from: Ghostface on Sep 01, 2011, 04:50:02 AM
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 01, 2011, 04:42:29 AM
Although I support weed being legalized I don't really see any need for it unless you use it as a natural pain killer (i.e. medicinal marijuana)
Because it makes everything better!
I've vaporized, and all I can say is it makes watching movies better. Time slows down and I get drawn into the story. Watching "The Fountain" in that state...quite an experience. :D
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Sep 01, 2011, 04:27:37 PM
Quote from: Ghostface on Sep 01, 2011, 04:50:02 AM
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 01, 2011, 04:42:29 AM
Although I support weed being legalized I don't really see any need for it unless you use it as a natural pain killer (i.e. medicinal marijuana)
Because it makes everything better!
I've vaporized, and all I can say is it makes watching movies better. Time slows down and I get drawn into the story. Watching "The Fountain" in that state...quite an experience. :D
Haha i watched that in a state aswell.
Has anyone here gotten high and listened to Pink Floyd? Or done acid then listened to Pink Floyd? Supposed to be quite the experience.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 01, 2011, 08:18:05 PM
Has anyone here gotten high and listened to Pink Floyd? Or done acid then listened to Pink Floyd? Supposed to be quite the experience.
I've done both and watched Floyd with friends.I'll never forget the DVD Pulse we watched.Shit blew my mind.I was stuck the the couch watching the video to the song
On the run.The G forces coming from the video would'nt let me sit up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj71MofUhLc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj71MofUhLc)
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 01, 2011, 08:18:05 PM
Has anyone here gotten high and listened to Pink Floyd? Or done acid then listened to Pink Floyd? Supposed to be quite the experience.
The couple of times I've watched The Wall in theatres with honking huge sound systems, I can only imagine getting high would've wrecked it.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 01, 2011, 08:18:05 PM
Has anyone here gotten high and listened to Pink Floyd? Or done acid then listened to Pink Floyd? Supposed to be quite the experience.
Done Acid and listened to stuff like Smashing Pumpkins, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam etc. :P
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 01, 2011, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Ghostface on Sep 01, 2011, 04:50:02 AM
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 01, 2011, 04:42:29 AM
Although I support weed being legalized I don't really see any need for it unless you use it as a natural pain killer (i.e. medicinal marijuana)
Because it makes everything better!
Not really when I was high I felt a bit more relaxed. But certainly not what I excepted. I was more or less the same. It didn't make anything 'better' for me.
Try having sex on it next time ;)
Quote from: Ghostface on Sep 02, 2011, 12:03:08 AM
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 01, 2011, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Ghostface on Sep 01, 2011, 04:50:02 AM
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 01, 2011, 04:42:29 AM
Although I support weed being legalized I don't really see any need for it unless you use it as a natural pain killer (i.e. medicinal marijuana)
Because it makes everything better!
Not really when I was high I felt a bit more relaxed. But certainly not what I excepted. I was more or less the same. It didn't make anything 'better' for me.
Try having sex on it next time ;)
What an experience that will be lmao.
You'll certainly be high on sex, ha-ha!!
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 02, 2011, 01:34:13 AM
Quote from: Ghostface on Sep 02, 2011, 12:03:08 AM
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 01, 2011, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Ghostface on Sep 01, 2011, 04:50:02 AM
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 01, 2011, 04:42:29 AM
Although I support weed being legalized I don't really see any need for it unless you use it as a natural pain killer (i.e. medicinal marijuana)
Because it makes everything better!
Not really when I was high I felt a bit more relaxed. But certainly not what I excepted. I was more or less the same. It didn't make anything 'better' for me.
Try having sex on it next time ;)
What an experience that will be lmao.
If you dont believe in god, you will lol
It's kinda weird (and funny) from the beginning, but can be very intensive due to enhanced senses. Recommended.
That said, I can't imagine having sex while on shrooms. That would be super weird. :D
When I drink Alcohol, I am usually in control. Its good, there is always a part of my brain that remains completely Sobre and tells me not to do things coz it will make me look stupid or it is not safe. Also helps me look after intoxicated people around me.
Haven't done much weed. Just a little bit high, not much. I just remember being really really happy for no good reason.
Now shrooms.... tell me what that is like. I'll hopefully give it a go. Is the city a bad place to do it?
Yep. I went twice to the city on shrooms and they were both horrible experiences. Do it somewhere safe and nice, where you won't get bothered by sober (or even worse, drunk) people.
Home is good (I like to simply watch Futurama or something and laugh my ass off), but doing it in a beautiful natural setting is definitely the most enjoyable high. Just make sure bears are nowhere near to be found. If it's your first time, DON'T do it ALONE.
As for the effects.. well, let's just say it depends on much you eat. ;)
Quote from: Pux Almighty on Sep 02, 2011, 10:10:18 AM
Yep. I went twice to the city on shrooms and they were both horrible experiences. Do it somewhere safe and nice, where you won't get bothered by sober (or even worse, drunk) people.
Home is good (I like to simply watch Futurama or something and laugh my ass off), but doing it in a beautiful natural setting is definitely the most enjoyable high. Just make sure bears are nowhere near to be found. If it's your first time, DON'T do it ALONE.
As for the effects.. well, let's just say it depends on much you eat. ;)
I done shrooms before and had to enter tesco's to buy more beer.I walked in,the lights instantly hit me.I also thought everyone was looking at me.I had to get money so i went to the ATM in the store,i began to panic because it would'nt work and i just wanted to get the f**k out of there.I had to exit and get my friend to buy my beer.Of course noone was looking at me i was just off my face.
Quote from: samoht on Sep 02, 2011, 09:35:15 AM
When I drink Alcohol, I am usually in control. Its good, there is always a part of my brain that remains completely Sobre and tells me not to do things coz it will make me look stupid or it is not safe. Also helps me look after intoxicated people around me.
I'm the same way. The only three times I've been hammered in my life, I was still able maintain a decent level of control. But I only achieved that through sitting totally still and calling out events and people around me so that I wouldn't lost touch. I sound a bit insane when I'm doing it.
I hate looking after people.They should'nt need looking after,they are adults.We have a friend who comes out and drinks with us.We are all big guys and can take a bit of a hammering when it comes to booze but he is small,he drinks so much so quickly and its almost guaranteed that he will either pass out or do something stupid like fall around the place and get kicked out.We even went to a Foam Party and he managed to fall asleep on the floor,in foam.We were literally on our hands and knees looking for him at the end of the night.
Hahahaha oh shit that would have been f**ked up. On another note, foam partys are great after a few pills. Especially if there are bikini clad woman in there too. Giggity. ;D
Quote from: Effectz on Sep 02, 2011, 12:31:26 PM
We even went to a Foam Party and he managed to fall asleep on the floor,in foam.We were literally on our hands and knees looking for him at the end of the night.
This made me laugh :laugh: Sorry :P
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 02, 2011, 12:12:29 PM
Quote from: samoht on Sep 02, 2011, 09:35:15 AM
When I drink Alcohol, I am usually in control. Its good, there is always a part of my brain that remains completely Sobre and tells me not to do things coz it will make me look stupid or it is not safe. Also helps me look after intoxicated people around me.
I'm the same way. The only three times I've been hammered in my life, I was still able maintain a decent level of control. But I only achieved that through sitting totally still and calling out events and people around me so that I wouldn't lost touch. I sound a bit insane when I'm doing it.
Yeah i have the same thing. Drinking alcohol makes me do stuff easier (things i wouldn't normally do that fast) But i can still think rational. I guess there is indeed one part of my brain that is sobre. I never do something completely stupid or really dangerous when i'm drunk (thinking that walking the stair would be dangerous enough when i drank a bit to much :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: )
I think I could go up stairs whilst I'm drunk. But I'd be doing it very slowly.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 02, 2011, 01:44:27 PM
I think I could go up stairs whilst I'm drunk. But I'd be doing it very slowly.
Yeah that's what i meant
Quote from: Pux Almighty on Sep 02, 2011, 10:10:18 AM
Yep. I went twice to the city on shrooms and they were both horrible experiences. Do it somewhere safe and nice, where you won't get bothered by sober (or even worse, drunk) people.
Home is good (I like to simply watch Futurama or something and laugh my ass off), but doing it in a beautiful natural setting is definitely the most enjoyable high. Just make sure bears are nowhere near to be found. If it's your first time, DON'T do it ALONE.
As for the effects.. well, let's just say it depends on much you eat. ;)
Why should't you do it alone?
And how much should you eat for a decent trip on your first go?
I tried some hallucogenic stuff like Acid & shrooms once or twice,
and I smoke marijuana almost daily. I love my life style.
Was watching SUPER yesterday while high with some friends, all I can say. THAT INTRO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhFkOHqDzcs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhFkOHqDzcs#ws)
I'm under the impression that any animated showing of vibrant colours is a sight to behold whilst on a hallucinogen of some kind.
Quote from: samoht on Sep 02, 2011, 02:01:32 PM
Quote from: Pux Almighty on Sep 02, 2011, 10:10:18 AM
Yep. I went twice to the city on shrooms and they were both horrible experiences. Do it somewhere safe and nice, where you won't get bothered by sober (or even worse, drunk) people.
Home is good (I like to simply watch Futurama or something and laugh my ass off), but doing it in a beautiful natural setting is definitely the most enjoyable high. Just make sure bears are nowhere near to be found. If it's your first time, DON'T do it ALONE.
As for the effects.. well, let's just say it depends on much you eat. ;)
Why should't you do it alone?
And how much should you eat for a decent trip on your first go?
I don't recommend doing it alone for the first time because you might freak out a little and it's good to share your high with friends, just to be safe. I did shrooms by myself, but I didn't enjoy it, felt so lonely because it was impossible to feel a connection with anyone.
When doing psychedelic drugs, you're literally in your own world. And it's always wise to take someone with you to the other side.
As for the amount, that's almost impossible to correctly recommend, since different shrooms have different potency. Try a few first, eat ten or so, wait for an hour and if nothing happens, have another ten, wait for an hour, repeat. That's the safest route. And trust me.. you
will know when it's happening. ;D
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 02, 2011, 04:24:21 PM
I'm under the impression that any animated showing of vibrant colours is a sight to behold whilst on a hallucinogen of some kind.
Very true, sir. Try watching a few episodes of your favorite animated comedy on psychedelics and I guarantee you'll be laughing so hard it's gonna hurt.
I don't even know where a person buys drugs from. Where do you guys go for shrooms or w/e?
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 03, 2011, 12:19:05 AM
I don't even know where a person buys drugs from. Where do you guys go for shrooms or w/e?
You just got to know people. I have a friend who buys weed from one of his friends who gets it from ????
I don't know man, just random networks of people that know each other.
Quote from: samoht on Sep 03, 2011, 12:29:08 AM
I have a friend who buys weed from one of his friends who gets it from ????
The... plant...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j9ydGyM9fU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j9ydGyM9fU#ws)
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 03, 2011, 12:19:05 AMWhere do you guys go for shrooms or w/e?
You can grow them yourself from what i hear also if you live out in the sticks or some rural areas you can find them pretty much anywhere but you have to be very careful otherwise picking the wrong mushrooms and ingesting them will make you seriously ill.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 03, 2011, 12:19:05 AM
I don't even know where a person buys drugs from. Where do you guys go for shrooms or w/e?
Drugs are everywhere. All it takes are a few contacts.
When it comes to shrooms, the trick is to know where they grow and how they look. I gather them myself each fall.
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Quote from: Pux Almighty on Sep 03, 2011, 12:57:33 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 03, 2011, 12:19:05 AM
I don't even know where a person buys drugs from. Where do you guys go for shrooms or w/e?
Drugs are everywhere. All it takes are a few contacts.
When it comes to shrooms, the trick is to know where they grow and how they look. I gather them myself each fall.
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We go picking aswell,then we make a big stew out of them and get mashed as hell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOmtVFQ3WF8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOmtVFQ3WF8#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RBwoUbvxx0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RBwoUbvxx0#ws)
The only drug I need is speed and I'm talking about the four wheeled kind :laugh:
Not a fan of actual drugs because of a bad experience at university - smoked some bad weed laced with what I was told later was probably PCP, had a massive freakout and ran down the middle of the street screaming in French at the top of my voice, then collapsed. Ugh. Never again.
Besides, I put enough prescription stuff in my body every day not to need anything recreationally. Cigarettes are my one weakness even though technically I've quit >.> Really, I have. Honest.
Quote from: LadyZero on Sep 03, 2011, 03:52:09 PM
The only drug I need is speed and I'm talking about the four wheeled kind :laugh:
Not a fan of actual drugs because of a bad experience at university - smoked some bad weed laced with what I was told later was probably PCP, had a massive freakout and ran down the middle of the street screaming in French at the top of my voice, then collapsed. Ugh. Never again.
Besides, I put enough prescription stuff in my body every day not to need anything recreationally. Cigarettes are my one weakness even though technically I've quit >.> Really, I have. Honest.
You a social smoker?I tried to quit then when i go out on the town everyone smoking around me just makes me pull my pubes out and have one.
Quote from: Effectz on Sep 03, 2011, 03:56:58 PM
You a social smoker?I tried to quit then when i go out on the town everyone smoking around me just makes me pull my pubes out and have one.
Yes, dammit >.> And if I'm out and someone offers me one, I can't say no. I do try though. At least I've actually quit smoking them every day. Chaining ten of them once or twice a month when I'm half-drunk isn't as bad as that. Or so I keep telling myself.
Quote from: LadyZero on Sep 03, 2011, 03:52:09 PM
Not a fan of actual drugs because of a bad experience at university - smoked some bad weed laced with what I was told later was probably PCP, had a massive freakout and ran down the middle of the street screaming in French at the top of my voice, then collapsed.
What would be weirder would be if you never knew how to speak French.
Quote from: Effectz on Sep 03, 2011, 03:56:58 PM
makes me pull my pubes out and have one.
No a bad thing considering those are pretty nasty ;)
Quote from: Valaquen on Sep 03, 2011, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: LadyZero on Sep 03, 2011, 03:52:09 PM
Not a fan of actual drugs because of a bad experience at university - smoked some bad weed laced with what I was told later was probably PCP, had a massive freakout and ran down the middle of the street screaming in French at the top of my voice, then collapsed.
What would be weirder would be if you never knew how to speak French.
But I do, so, c'est bien!
Drugs are bad mkayyy.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 03, 2011, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Effectz on Sep 03, 2011, 03:56:58 PM
makes me pull my pubes out and have one.
No a bad thing considering those are pretty nasty ;)
Smoking pubes sounds Real Bad
I met a girl at Leeds festival recently who had two very different reactions to alcohol and both of them were hilarious. Never seen anybody affected like her before. The first night she went mute. She just at there smiling and giggling and whenever you tried to speak to her she was trying to speak back but no sound came out. I thought she was in a mood or was just taking the piss but the next morning she told me if she gets too drunk she wants to speak but she cant?
Then the next night she went through the mute stage for a bit and then when she did start talking the things she would say or respond with were so random it was like an infant randomly shouting out words. I was crying laughing.
I love friendly drunks. They're always fun. It happens to me too, though I don't giggly uncontrollably. I just think everyone is my friend.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 04, 2011, 03:02:37 PMI just think everyone is my friend.
I need to meet a girl like that...
Quote from: maledoro on Sep 04, 2011, 03:56:24 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 04, 2011, 03:02:37 PMI just think everyone is my friend.
I need to meet a girl like that...
I think the Darwins fish necklace scares em away. I wore mine out on a date before and it was over before the appetizers were served.
Meh I was offered cigarettes recently and turned them down. But, f**k it, it seemed so relaxing to smoke. I doubt I'll try it though. My family is pretty against me smoking and (at least until I turn 18) I'm going to not try it.
F**k cigarettes, man. They don't even make you high, so what's the point? ;D
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 06, 2011, 06:23:32 PM
Meh I was offered cigarettes recently and turned them down. But, f**k it, it seemed so relaxing to smoke. I doubt I'll try it though. My family is pretty against me smoking and (at least until I turn 18) I'm going to not try it.
I wouldn't even try it if I were you. As a reformed smoker let me tell you, there's nothing to try. The only reason smoking makes you feel more relaxed is because you're going through a nicotine withdrawal and you are giving your body what it wants. Until your body is reliant on it, you are just forcing a chemical into your body that will make you cough and most likely give you dizzy spells and possibly feel sick. Avoid it if you can. ;)
Quote from: Ghostface on Sep 07, 2011, 02:35:59 AM
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 06, 2011, 06:23:32 PM
Meh I was offered cigarettes recently and turned them down. But, f**k it, it seemed so relaxing to smoke. I doubt I'll try it though. My family is pretty against me smoking and (at least until I turn 18) I'm going to not try it.
I wouldn't even try it if I were you. As a reformed smoker let me tell you, there's nothing to try. The only reason smoking makes you feel more relaxed is because you're going through a nicotine withdrawal and you are giving your body what it wants. Until your body is reliant on it, you are just forcing a chemical into your body that will make you cough and most likely give you dizzy spells and possibly feel sick. Avoid it if you can. ;)
Good point I guess I'll try my best not to do it.
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 06, 2011, 06:23:32 PM
Meh I was offered cigarettes recently and turned them down. But, f**k it, it seemed so relaxing to smoke. I doubt I'll try it though. My family is pretty against me smoking and (at least until I turn 18) I'm going to not try it.
It's relaxing until your teeth turn black, you can't stop coughing, and your body becomes entrenched with the smell of smoke.
It's good to see where I'm from, less and less people smoke. There are still plenty of people that do, but I dont see as much in the new generations.
Where do you hail from?
Quote from: Ghostface on Sep 07, 2011, 01:24:43 PM
It's good to see where I'm from, less and less people smoke. There are still plenty of people that do, but I dont see as much in the new generations.
Pretty much the opposite here in central Europe, meeting a group of thirteen year old girls smoking is common, sadly.
Quote from: Pux Almighty on Sep 07, 2011, 03:39:07 PM
Quote from: Ghostface on Sep 07, 2011, 01:24:43 PM
It's good to see where I'm from, less and less people smoke. There are still plenty of people that do, but I dont see as much in the new generations.
Pretty much the opposite here in central Europe, meeting a group of thirteen year old girls smoking is common, sadly.
What country are you from?
It's all in the profile, bro.
This may seem strange but when On Drugs what music do you listen to? me well any 60's 70's music Joe cocker pink floyd, the doors, black sabbath, led zepplin, motorhead, jimmi hendrix..... and many more
Daft punk & cage the elephant have dominated my speakers latley :)
Quote from: daywalker on Sep 08, 2011, 09:14:20 AM
This may seem strange but when On Drugs what music do you listen to? me well any 60's 70's music Joe cocker pink floyd, the doors, black sabbath, led zepplin, motorhead, jimmi hendrix..... and many more
When I'm drunk, nothing sounds better than heavy metal.
Black metal, doom metal, dark ambient and industrial/electronic when I'm stoned.
Don't ever listen to black metal on mushrooms. Just don't.
Went to some warhouse party last weekend.Stimulants were ingested,had a blast.
I'm going to watch Above and Beyond next weekend. I've taken the monday/tuesday off work...
Quote from: Ghostface on Sep 08, 2011, 11:49:18 PM
I'm going to watch Above and Beyond next weekend. I've taken the monday/tuesday off work...
That basically means,Im getting wrecked and there isnt shit a woman can say about it.Is it above and beyond the dj's?
Quote from: Effectz on Sep 09, 2011, 02:32:52 AM
Quote from: Ghostface on Sep 08, 2011, 11:49:18 PM
I'm going to watch Above and Beyond next weekend. I've taken the monday/tuesday off work...
That basically means,Im getting wrecked and there isnt shit a woman can say about it
Bingo. Besides, my woman is coming too ;D
Havnt had a smoke in 2 weeks longest ive ever gone,never thought the patches worked but they do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30ruBtLIvJM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30ruBtLIvJM#ws)
The strangest thing about weed, to me anyway, is that apparently, the worse it smells, the better quality it is. If it smells like a skunk, then it's great quality weed.
Never smelled a skunk. But over here, the more it smells like cheese the better, apparently.
Work that out.
No sir.
Oh and here if I'd made this thread it would of been close and I'd be banned! We need to have words Vul! >:(
Quote from: Vulhala on Sep 13, 2011, 11:17:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30ruBtLIvJM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30ruBtLIvJM#ws)
That's the guy from the first season of misfits ep......... 3.
Weed's alright but I'm not a college boy anymore so it's not an everyday thing and I perfer it that way feels way better when you haven't had any for a week or so, I'm waiting until the new Misfits to get a nice fat 2 Q's and have that over 6 weeks. I also hate the lingering effect and I mean I can't even try to lie and say I'm not high cause it takes me 5 second to think of a sentence in my head then when I try to say it it comes out a jumbled mess and I get "Your high we'll talk later" I don't know how people do it cause when I blaze I just go dumb... Ever. :(
Acid's is wonderful I can't believe I've only done it once, it made me kinda reflect on myself I was in a great place if mind when I did it. Me and my mates got on a bus and theres one sit when I grabbed that sit I was all thinking "Yes! Stand you manz! Stand as I jam!" when all I did was just sit down on a bus. :laugh: Super Smash Bros Brawl final destination and Fox's stage are the greatest some much shit going on in the background.
E's it's nice you feel pretty unstoppable best moment on E was when I pulled this girl and asked her to dance about 2 mintues in when the track change I just grabbed her and started ball room dancing with her, it was so funny I smacked this guy in the face when I twirled her. I just turned to the guy and said "Sorry mate :laugh:" pulled her back and started swaying with her laughing into her shoulder, but for the next 2 days I felt like shit almost got into a fight with one of my teacher until I clocked he was getting a little pissed then I tried to style it out that I just try to having a laugh with him. But I know he isn't an idiot so I played it smart and I kept E's to a half term and summer thing.
If this post isn't gone in 20 minutes I'll post my thoughts and exp on ketamine.
Weed is f**ked. I know. I have been smoking the shit since I was 12. I am 33 this year. I literally wake up and have cones. It is quite sad really :(
Doesn't affect me workwise etc. I don't even feel stoned. It is more of a habit for me. I won't even go into how much money I have blown on it, over the years. One thing it has affected is my mood. Sometimes little things make me shitty...which is fooken stupid. I need to relax more and laugh more things off. You think weed would have the oposite effect right? Sadly it doesn't in the end.
I have given up twice over that time for a few months and I had never felt better in all my life. Somehow I ended back on it again.
I honestly think I need to go into rehab to get off it. I smoke ciggies as well, which I also mix my mull with. So whenever I have given up the pot I have always still smoked ciggies. I need to stop smoking everything. Funny thing is I swore black and blue I would never smoke. I have had asthma all my life. My father smoked and I always hated it. I guess peer pressure got the better of me.
If I aint f**ked already I will be if I keep on going.Take my advice. Stay OFF the shit or use it in moderation. Like once in a blue moon.*
*Problem is, when you smoke like that. You actaully do get stoned. Really stoned! And I hate that feeling. Go figure.
Hope that helps someone. Typing this out has made me think about how f**ked it is in my life.
I've decided to take a break from all substances to focus on my fitness. I want to take kickboxing to the next level and I feel weed is holding me back. It was a fun ride while it lasted.
:D Maybe I can do a few bumps before a fight
Alcohol and cigarettes are drugs. Yet they contribute to the majority of drug related deaths. And they are legal.
Quote from: Fujimaster on Sep 14, 2011, 07:01:51 AM
Alcohol and cigarettes are drugs. Yet they contribute to the majority of drug related deaths. And they are legal.
they are also easily taxable :)
Quote from: Pn2501 on Sep 14, 2011, 07:03:16 AM
Quote from: Fujimaster on Sep 14, 2011, 07:01:51 AM
Alcohol and cigarettes are drugs. Yet they contribute to the majority of drug related deaths. And they are legal.
they are also easily taxable :)
I was going to add that too.
Any drug can be easily taxable. It's a question of whether we choose to accept them as a natural part of life.
Smuggling cocaine like a boss.
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Handout medical image released by the Brazilian Federal Police showing bags with cocaine inside the gastrointestinal tract of a 20-year-old Irish national arrested by police at Congonhas airport in Sao Paulo, Brazil, on September 12. The man, identified only as P.B.B., was stopped whilst trying to board a flight outbound for Brussels with 72 bags containing almost a kilogram of the drug inside his intestines.
my god that must have been uncomfortable
haha...and he got caught.
Drugs are bad m'kay.
Quote from: Master Chief on Sep 16, 2011, 06:56:17 PM
haha...and he got caught.
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:laugh:
Imagine that all coming out at once ??? That would have had to of been the world record for a single shit, when he took it. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I don't get why you'd even try hard drugs like Cocaine and Heroin. I mean, what's the appeal, that you get an unbelievable high with no risks and people buy that? I have no idea why you'd even try it. But then again this is jut my opinion.
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 17, 2011, 03:35:29 AM
I don't get why you'd even try hard drugs like Cocaine and Heroin. I mean, what's the appeal, that you get an unbelievable high with no risks and people buy that? I have no idea why you'd even try it. But then again this is jut my opinion.
Boredom.
And not everyone becomes a horrible junkie after taking them.
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 17, 2011, 03:35:29 AM
I don't get why you'd even try hard drugs like Cocaine and Heroin. I mean, what's the appeal, that you get an unbelievable high with no risks and people buy that? I have no idea why you'd even try it. But then again this is jut my opinion.
I can't speak about heroin, never touched it. The first time I tried coke I was working at a nightclub. Some of the bosses were kicking it in the kitchen with a group of girls racking it up. I was offered some, and not to lose face I did it too. Can't say it was a bad experience, but I would say it was peer pressure.
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 17, 2011, 03:35:29 AM
I don't get why you'd even try hard drugs like Cocaine and Heroin. I mean, what's the appeal, that you get an unbelievable high with no risks and people buy that? I have no idea why you'd even try it. But then again this is jut my opinion.
Heroin and cocaine are totally different animals.People think because there rated Class A there the same but there not.I'd never do herion or crack or crystal meth,but if someone gave me a line of coke,i'd snort it without a thought and party my ass off.
Yup. Different ends of the rollercoaster those two. Ones an upper the other is a downer.
Heroin is actually one of the cleanest drugs would you believe? Just super addictive. And can be very dangerous in the wrong hands. Half the time it is what it has been cut with that makes it all go to shit.
QuoteHeroin is actually one of the cleanest drugs would you believe?
No
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBVkk5rW0lw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBVkk5rW0lw#)
Lol if only one of those burst..... >.<
Quote from: Valaquen on Aug 30, 2011, 07:08:16 PM
Had some bad times on booze [kills and injuries more people than all the illegal drugs combined], great times on drugs.
I remember being in work and talking to the girl next to me, who still looked wrecked from the night before. She told me she lost her phone, couldn't remember half the night, spent all her money - all worn like a badge of pride ... she then asks what I did the night before. Sat in, watched a movie, smoked a joint with some friends, I said. The disgust on her face.
I find most people's aversion to illegal drugs is due to them being heavily mythologised.
how I MISSED this quote is beyond me but that as a quote on the girl getting drunk and you stoned is one if the greatest analogy for drugs and how we as a socety percieve them....
Quote from: Effectz on Sep 17, 2011, 06:40:18 AM
Heroin and cocaine are totally different animals.People think because there rated Class A there the same but there not.I'd never do herion or crack or crystal meth,but if someone gave me a line of coke,i'd snort it without a thought and party my ass off.
I've smoked crack once when I was 20. I think I did it wrong, never felt anything. Did E a few times as well as weed.
Only ever been addicted to cigarettes and alcohol.
Luckily I haven't smoked a ciggie in over 3 years. Still drink in moderation (no more than 3 days a week, and no binge drinking)
My point was why bother taking Heroin if it's offered to you. Haven't you been told a bunch of times it's bad for you? To then try it is just being stupid. And to make it worse people sympathize with you. I don't need coke to have fun. Just my opinion of course.
Quote from: The PredBen on Oct 03, 2011, 02:26:53 PM
My point was why bother taking Heroin if it's offered to you. Haven't you been told a bunch of times it's bad for you? To then try it is just being stupid. And to make it worse people sympathize with you. I don't need coke to have fun. Just my opinion of course.
And that's the best attitude to have. The problem with party drugs is they enhance your fun. You taking them to keep having fun and eventually you get to the point when you need them just to have fun and by then it's usually too late. I've seen it happen to too many people.
Quote from: The PredBen on Oct 03, 2011, 02:26:53 PM
My point was why bother taking Heroin if it's offered to you. Haven't you been told a bunch of times it's bad for you? To then try it is just being stupid. And to make it worse people sympathize with you. I don't need coke to have fun. Just my opinion of course.
People think it's all about misery and desperation and death and all that shite, which is not to be ignored. But what they forget is the pleasure of it. Otherwise we wouldn't do it. After all, we're not f**king stupid. At least, we're not that f**king stupid. Take the best orgasm you ever had, multiply it by a thousand and you're still nowhere near it. When you're on junk you have only one worry: scoring. When you're off it you are suddenly obliged to worry about all sorts of other shite. Got no money: can't get pissed. Got money: drinking too much. Can't get a bird: no chance of a ride. Got a bird: too much hassle. You have to worry about bills, about food, about some football team that never f**king wins, about human relationships and all the things that really don't matter when you've got a sincere and truthful junk habit.
Quote from: SM on Oct 04, 2011, 03:33:15 AM
Quote from: The PredBen on Oct 03, 2011, 02:26:53 PM
My point was why bother taking Heroin if it's offered to you. Haven't you been told a bunch of times it's bad for you? To then try it is just being stupid. And to make it worse people sympathize with you. I don't need coke to have fun. Just my opinion of course.
People think it's all about misery and desperation and death and all that shite, which is not to be ignored. But what they forget is the pleasure of it. Otherwise we wouldn't do it. After all, we're not f**king stupid. At least, we're not that f**king stupid. Take the best orgasm you ever had, multiply it by a thousand and you're still nowhere near it. When you're on junk you have only one worry: scoring. When you're off it you are suddenly obliged to worry about all sorts of other shite. Got no money: can't get pissed. Got money: drinking too much. Can't get a bird: no chance of a ride. Got a bird: too much hassle. You have to worry about bills, about food, about some football team that never f**king wins, about human relationships and all the things that really don't matter when you've got a sincere and truthful junk habit.
Oddly poetic
My first year of College I did weed maybe five times. It was cool for a while, but then I started to feel really shitty about myself for doing, so I stopped and haven't touched it since. Being as I'm still in school there is some stress, but it's nothing a good run can't cure.
As far as legalizing Marijuana goes, America is lazy enough. Imagine an entire work force stoned out of their minds all the time.
Psychedelics are a different story, the idea of hallucinating terrifies me for some reason.
I used to smoke weed almost every day, but now I've slowed down to maybe once or twice a week (but usually less). I've done shrooms 7 times and I f**king love those. I'm planning on dropping acid for the first time next week. I used to say that I wouldn't do any synthetic drugs but I decided to try acid cuz it's been researched to death and I know it's pretty much harmless (and I already have psychedelic experience). All in all, I think hard drugs are retarded and I don't understand how anybody gets into em. I rarely drink and I don't ever plan on smoking cigarettes (gross!) Pretty much, I don't give a f**k what anybody chooses to put into their body or not.. I don't judge. So when people act all high and mighty for being straightedge it bugs the shit out of me cuz nothing anybody does even affects them. But if you're robbing people and shit cuz you need a fix, you obviously have a problem. /2cents
My view on drugs is this - everything in moderation. This applies to everything, even things considered healthy, like water. 8)
I went up to my friends house tonight.I planned to take it easy because I had to get metal pins in my ankle because I broke it and Im on crutches.anyways,i ended up doing the drug Dmt.its a powder,you smoke it.i smoked a bit and immediately I thought I was john merrick the elephant man,my legs looked like a giant tumor and my hands looked like the gloves micky mouse wears.when I looked at my knees they were illuminated like a runway at night.it lasts 15 to 20 mins holy shit,its f**king unreal.
Quote from: Effectz on Oct 08, 2011, 05:41:29 AM
I went up to my friends house tonight.I planned to take it easy because I had to get metal pins in my ankle because I broke it and Im on crouches.anyways,i ended up doing the drug Dmt.its a powder,you smoke it.i smoked a bit and immediately I thought I was john merik the elephant man,my legs looked like a giant tumor and my hands looked like the gloves micky mouse wears.when I looked at my knees they were illuminated like a runway at night.it lasts 15 to 20 mins bur holy shit,its f**king unreal.
The idea of that scares the hell out of me.
It was really funny,it only lasted 15 minutes,it got freaky when i thought my legs and hands were john merrick,but that lasted about two minutes followed by uncontrollable laughter which in its self lasted 15 minutes.I've done alot of drugs in my life,but tonight,i reached the realm of Bruce Parry.
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Bruce ate the root.I literally only licked the surface.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-TnlyvuBAs# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-TnlyvuBAs#)
Its bad, don't do it.
Quote from: The PredBen on Oct 07, 2011, 01:35:53 PM
My view on drugs is this - everything in moderation. This applies to everything, even things considered healthy, like water. 8)
Heroin and coke aren't good for you, period. Moderation isn't the issue.
Anyone who's never been to Amsterdam had better hurry. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15225270)
Quote from: DoomRulz on Oct 08, 2011, 03:34:36 PM
Quote from: The PredBen on Oct 07, 2011, 01:35:53 PM
My view on drugs is this - everything in moderation. This applies to everything, even things considered healthy, like water. 8)
Heroin and coke aren't good for you, period. Moderation isn't the issue.
I didn't mean Heroin and Coke. I meant marijuana and alcohol. I agree Heroin and Coke aren't good for you, and yet, I know people who try coke regularly and try to defend it (poorly obviously)
Coke is alright if it's a cheeky line once in a blue moon. But it's very, very likeable. I had a brush with it a few years back and was lucky I ran out of money or I have no doubt I'd be in the shit right now.
Quote from: Vulhala on Oct 08, 2011, 06:22:11 PM
Anyone who's never been to Amsterdam had better hurry. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15225270)
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They plan to ban tourists for the coffee shops,whaaaaaaaat!
been a long while since I been here.i'm a medical marijuana patient I get pretty bad anxiety when i'm out in public or socialize and i'm bipolar the "legal" meds my psychiatrist prescribe doesn't work all the time and pot very much helps me a lot.sorry for my bad grammar.
I have OCD and it started to control my life back in 2006, i went to clinics and had been hospitalized as well.
Ofcourse they prescribed me with Anti depressives like Paraxotine, Xanax & Chloriphramine. In my opinion it was also a sort of drugs, since they actually made you emotionally indifferent to everything and everyone around you, aside from the fact you went numb and your head was quite clear of thoughts it also made you really far away from the real world mentally. And it made you shut down all your emotions, good ones or bad ones. You just felt as if you were... there, but more as an observer inside your own body then actually experiencing moods and emotions.
I decided to quit my meds in 2008, and withouth even slowing and lowering my dosage, i just quitted from one day to another, not such a good idea of course, my body started shivering and twitching uncontrollably and i had little panic attacks allot of the time. I held on and after one or two weeks i felt better and my mood and emotions came back, i did feel MORE energetic and HAPPY withouth my anti depressive meds wich is weird since it should be the opposite IMO.
Im dealing with my OCD now through the things i learned throughout therapy and i picked up life again, its an every day struggle but at least i feel like i am living again.
Ofcourse sometimes i wondered if taking drugs would make me forget my OCD thoughts and feel better even only if for a moment, but i never took that decision nor was i in touch with people who could provide me with drugs at the time.
But at our school you can smell the weed all over by the lockers :P (I live in The Netherlands) and there are loads of coffee shops even in my local area's.
That's rough man. I can't imagine living with that.
It's daily routine now, but i remember the days i didnt have it, wich makes it harder to accept that i have it now.
I started having obsessive thoughts in early 2006 about loved ones and people i care about, that something bad happened to them, strangely whenever i did some kind of ritual, in my case, re-doing that what im doing at that moment, made me feel relieved and made me get the idea that it would all be safe. The thoughts contained the loss of loved ones in horribe horrible ways, kinda like a disaster movie in your mind :(
This kept on getting worse and worse untill it took up 80% of my daily routine, i lost my friends, my work and my school. I stayed home because i didnt even wanna walk anymore cuz i had to re step every step and put my clothes on and off for ages. (those were big parts of my rituals) Also doing other simple daily things as listening to music didnt go anymore, i had to do rituals each time i putted a new song on and even visiting forums was a pain, whenever i posted something i had to delete and repost or just edit it with a "pure" thought, so that's why i actually merely "check" avpgalaxy, rather then participating in topics, but i decided to give it a go sometimes :) Anyways they gave me Anti Depressives to fight my thoughts and moods, wich as i said made you numb and really not actually experiencing your own life but merely observing your life emotionally rather then feeling things.
I ended up in 2007 in a clinique for anxiety and behaviour disorder for 1 month for observation and 4 months internal in some place in the south of my country where i was allowed to leave only the weekend. I had theraphy sessions and other routines there as well, i was there with around 20 other people who were also OCD sufferers, or Bipolar or had Body Dismorphic Disorder or just depressed for years and years. It was good to share experiences with people who were going through the same thing as i did at that time.
So i went back to work in 2008, and slowly it went better and better, working was really a cure because you didnt have time to think about things and when you did you were mostly forced to continue withouth "performing your ritual"
And so i stopped my Anti-Despressive's one day, i gained 22Kg in 1.5 years went from 65kg to 87 Kg's. I came late because i was so "tired" wich the meds made me. I stopped just in once, got big side effects as if i used to be on drugs, shaking and stressing up as i said.
So after that it went allright and i lost weight SLOWLY again and i came on time at places i needed to be and were more motivated withouth medication. I started dieting and lost an additional 12 kg's and now i am back at 73 kg's wich is okay :D
I became assistent store manager after a year and decided to go back to school not later on.
Now it's going really swell in life, i got allot of friends through work and even met my best friend through work. We see eachother around 2/3 times a week sometimes.
I got back to school after 4 years (Graphical Desinging) and am top of the class! But still i am haunted by my obsessive thoughts each day, not as much and as powerfull as i used to have it though. Lets say about 30/40% of the day...
I still visit the pshyciatrist about every week :)
My OCD rituals also feel like a drug sometimes since i have a "need" to do it and it relieves my anxiety, but merely for a short while and i need to do it more and more for it actually to relieve some of the anxiety...
May be me but everyone should listen to bill hicks thoughts on drugs the truth is only a bill hicks listen away :P
I too suffer from pretty bad OCD. It isn't constant, but boy, it can effect me. I try to limit it in public, because its pretty embarrassing, but I still do it every now and then. I wish there was a drug that could completely eliminate OCD, but from what I've heard, the most drugs AND therapy do is lower the symptoms or decrease your desire to do them.
I'd say doing pretty well control wise 2 zutes before Misfits 1 before Dexter, drinking only at the pub or when I go up London.
Quote from: Lie on Nov 25, 2011, 05:25:53 PM
I'd say doing pretty well control wise 2 zutes before Misfits 1 before Dexter, drinking only at the pub or when I go up London.
A cup of tea and a zute! Breakfast of champions!
I know that most people don't consider tobacco a drug, but for my 18th birthday, I smoked two cigars (about 1/5 of each). And while it was kinda cool to be able to buy them, I don't plan on smoking them again. It wasn't really that enjoyable.
Don't blame you. I smoke, but I can't stand cigars.
I love a good cigar. i don't smoke them often but I enjoy the hell out of them when I do.
Ahhh I've never had one, I might get one for myself to have on christmas.
I hate the stink off them.
Cigars are fun at social events but they're a pain in the ass to smoke. It's too much hassle to keep lighting it up every few seconds.
I figured this thread should be reborn or whatever it is so heres a story i am at a party drinking a bottle of whisky i drink the whole bottle, and some rum and vodka, whole night a blackout so from what I heard I lost my phone, went insane and did stupidity level things, only thing I remember is going to by a pack of cigs and telling te guy who served me to do hell drugs, now 2 months later, I get really stoned so stoned infact that my skin turned pale white, one of the best nights of my life, listened to sabbath, opeth,mastodon, and relaxed and took a few great views on life, best thing I didnt go insane, I was controlled and I felt like 100 bucks the next morning.............. so to put it simply smoke hell weed if your offered a bottle of whisky you will feel better in the end and being a jackass while super high is impossible
Were those same drugs affecting your ability to use punctuation?
"Cocaine is a helluva drug!"
I was taught that all drugs(weed,coke, heroine,alcohol) are all one and the same in terms of how much they can f*ck you up. Is it true that weed works the same way as cocaine in that it triggers the release of "pleasure" chemicals or "reward" system? I mean I smoked once back in the day but someone told me it can make you go into psychosis and you can get addicted after one puff so I immediatly stopped.
It triggers the release of Dopamine, which makes you feel euphoric. I don't think you can get physically addicted to weed, but I know a couple of people who are probably psychologically dependant on it. Like they would buy it before they would buy food for their kids.
As for psychosis, I think the jury is still out. If you have mental health problems, I think there's proof it can exacerbate them, but who's to say you wouldn't have gotten worse anyway?
The potential to get pyschologically addicted to marijuana is there, but that holds true for anything from food to internet usage.
Exactly. It's more a personality thing than biological so to speak.
I done this drug called DMT(Dimethyltryptamine).I was hesitant to do it because I heard it's just crazy.My friends done it and told me i should do it at least once so i gave in and done it.When i done it i just fell back on the bed and watched these colour paterns flying by me but my eyes were closed,the paterns looked like giant multicoloured snowflake paterns exploding towards me.I opened my eyes and looked at my bong,i was looking at the bong but I didn't know what a bong was.My mates were talking in the background but i couldn't understand what they were saying,Then i seen this point of light above me and then instantaneously i was travelling through it,it was like Starwars when the Mellenium falcon goes into hyperspace.Then 5 minutes later i was fine.
Joe Rogan talks about it on one of his podcasts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8#)
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Mar 02, 2012, 03:52:55 PM
I was taught that all drugs(weed,coke, heroine,alcohol) are all one and the same in terms of how much they can f*ck you up. Is it true that weed works the same way as cocaine in that it triggers the release of "pleasure" chemicals or "reward" system? I mean I smoked once back in the day but someone told me it can make you go into psychosis and you can get addicted after one puff so I immediatly stopped.
Not true.
Quote from: Vulhala on Mar 02, 2012, 03:58:48 PM
It triggers the release of Dopamine, which makes you feel euphoric. I don't think you can get physically addicted to weed, but I know a couple of people who are probably psychologically dependant on it. Like they would buy it before they would buy food for their kids.
As for psychosis, I think the jury is still out. If you have mental health problems, I think there's proof it can exacerbate them, but who's to say you wouldn't have gotten worse anyway?
Like Vul says, you can't get physically addicted to grass, but, like comfort food, you can get psychologically addicted if you abuse it (and if you abuse it, blame yourself).
I don't do drugs anymore, having opted for prescription drugs like zopiclone and dosulepin, and the drawbacks, side effects, and dangers of prescription drugs are making me reconsider returning to marijuana to calm down and get a good night's sleep. Really.
Those are perscription sleeping pills for insomnia yes Val?You should just stick to the green stuff,much safer,no side affects(hunger?) and you sleep like a baby.
Actually, I hope you can try other natural remedies like melatonin or valarien. I know insomnia well, it sucks, but not as much as what drugs and alcohol will do.
Remember that it's not just your life. What you do effects your spouse/sig other, family, friends, even people you don't think of as much. It sucks watching someone you care about ruin their lives.
I hate to hear this guys, please reconsider :-\
Quote from: Effectz on Mar 02, 2012, 05:42:21 PM
Those are perscription sleeping pills for insomnia yes Val?You should just stick to the green stuff,much safer,no side affects(hunger?) and you sleep like a baby.
There are other prescription drugs, but they're all saddled with side effects and such. Just switching between medicines made me really sick.
Quote from: AliceApocalypse on Mar 02, 2012, 06:04:19 PM
Actually, I hope you can try other natural remedies like melatonin or valarien. I know insomnia well, it sucks, but not as much as what drugs and alcohol will do.
Remember that it's not just your life. What you do effects your spouse/sig other, family, friends, even people you don't think of as much. It sucks watching someone you care about ruin their lives.
I hate to hear this guys, please reconsider :-\
I've actually tried! I also tried exercise etc: all that happens is that my body is exhausted but my mind doesn't quit. I don't drink alcohol - at all (okay, okay, I have a glass of wine with my fiance every couple of weeks, and that's it).
Funnily enough, when I smoked grass for sleep, no one bothered (especially not my friends) but when I started sleeping pills my family were all really riled and anxious. At first I slept great but then I'd wake up and feel drunk for a couple of hours. Additionally, the prescription drugs are very addictive and can be crippling. One of my friends was prescribed zopiclone (as I am) and he became addicted. Coming off them was hell. The only downside to grass was paying for it - prescription drugs are free in Scotland.
Illegal drugs are a simple no. I've vowed never to do them, not even drink. I intend to keep it that way.
My views on (the most controversial subject) of marijuana are mixed. When I look at it from a political and economic stand point, it's perfectly fine. But, I just hate weed so much. So, it's more of a personal preference. My older brothers and friends have screwed up their lives after smoking pot, and I just can't stand anyone smoking or handling it near me. I'm just too much of a traditionalist when it comes weed. No logical reason to hate it, but I do. Therefore, I like it to illegal but I realize it should be legal. Just becuase I dislike it doesn't mean it should be illegal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvIAQ2UIIJQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvIAQ2UIIJQ#)
It should be legal,its crazy that it isn't legal,theres so much stigma attached to it ''If you smoke it you will end up doing harder things and get addictedThats crazy to assume that,It would really depend on the person.It amazing that things like Cigs and alcohol are legal,even though they actually kill you if you become addicted and it's a fact.Alcohol is one of the worst things,it turns people into demons.You don't see people battering each other out on the street after having a few doobys,guess thats why Holland has one of the lowest drug relating crime rates in Europe.
My Cousin's wife had motor neurone diseases (She sadly passed away last year)And he would come to me to get her Marijuana because it was the only thing that would Alleviate her symptoms,nothing the doctors gave her would work.
there have been numerous official reports and studies, every one of which has concluded that marijuana poses no great risk to society and should not be criminalized.
A recent survey by the Kaiser Permanente Center found that daily marijuana-only smokers have a 19% higher rate of respiratory complaints than non-smokers,but you can just eat it in some cakes,instead of smoking it.
The change in this man is amazing and he has Multiple sclerosis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEOoa6Q4Bds# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEOoa6Q4Bds#)
If I was to stop at a crossroads, and down one street there were emptying bars, and on another emptying hash cafes, I know which one I'd feel safer walking down. I've never seen someone who's high act in an aggravating or intimidating manner, but I walk the streets and see people holding on to buildings for support, screaming at one another from across the road, being carried home, spewing, fighting, pissing in the gutter. Disgusting behaviour. I remember being in work a few years ago, and the girl I was next to listed all the things she done the night before: she had gone out, gotten wildly drunk, lost her phone, spent all of her money, was felt up by strangers, and blacked out. This was a badge of honour. When I told her that I sat at home the night before and smoked a joint with some friends whilst watching a movie, she looked as though I'd spat on her. She wasn't the only person I've met with this strange attitude.
I'm gonna be open about this, Naruto Generation Storm comes out on the 30th of March. like with AVP 2010, Persona 4, Skins and Misfits I'm gonna pick up 4 scores and be off my nut for the first playthrough/viewing. It's become a ritual.
Just wanted to chime in my opinion here
Now I go to parties every now and then with my friends. And yes, there are drugs there occassionally. Do I do them? No. But thats not the point. Look, pot and low level drugs I could care less about. It's just in my neighborhood, Heroin is a major f***ing problem among kids a little older than me. Every week there someone from my school or neighboring schools who OD's. That what I have a problem with
So my opinion on drugs? Whatever floats your boat, but just be old enough to be able to make decisions for yourself. My aunt was a crack addict, and is now out of her mind and toothless. Given, I have like 10 aunts and uncles on my mom's side who were raised dirt poor because their fanatical religous mother was to busy going to anti-abortion rallies to provide while their father worked his ass off to provide for 10 kids, so she had it pretty rough, but she started when she was about 14 or 15. She's relapsed twice since her recoveries and I'd bet she'll do it again. So yeah, hard drugs piss me off, and I've seen them destroy people firsthand.
You wanna smoke hash though, that's fine with me. Whatever floats your boat
Hate to be such a buzzkill, haha
A reason why I dislike weed so much is that a lot of time when the weed smokers present themselves like they're full of peace and stuff, yet they'll make fun of the people who don't smoke it. I've been made fun of many times by a lot of different people. A friend who sells weed promised he'd make me a pot head yesterday, and I punched him in the face and I haven't talked to him sense. I'm not against marijuana being legal, but people are always harassing me, trying to get me high. That is what gets me about weed, and is why I personally will never smoke it nor allow my friends to smoke it in front of me. I have too many personal feelings against it.
But, there is not much wrong with weed except for the drowsy state it puts you in and the revolting smell. It can be addictive, but everything can be addictive. It does change people though. I've had older brothers and friends who've transformed negatively. However, those changes probably happened becuase it is illegal. When doing an illegal thing, it causes them to do other illegal things, so sometimes it changes people into total douche bags who you can't stand. So, if it was legal, I don't think people would change themselves so negatively.
I don't find the smell in the least bit disgusting. And if you're running around punching your friends in the face anyway, your argument is invalid :laugh:
The smell is lovely, unless you're smoking solid. That stuff is crap. Synthetic crap laced with boot polish. Avoid!
....dat Cheddar....
Man, I miss hot-boxing and watching films. I haven't done it in ages, but I've always found it a lot more fun than drinking.
Quote from: severen76 on Mar 04, 2012, 01:15:17 AM
Man, I miss hot-boxing and watching films. I haven't done it in ages, but I've always found it a lot more fun than drinking.
Same, and there's less drama, falling around, and fighting to boot :P
Quote from: Vulhala on Mar 04, 2012, 01:04:01 AM
I don't find the smell in the least bit disgusting. And if you're running around punching your friends in the face anyway, your argument is invalid :laugh:
I don't punch my friends often, and what exactly do you think my argument was? All I did was share an experience and a reason why I hate weed. Wasn't exactly an argument...
The 'argument is invalid' line was a joke.
The rest was fairly serious however. You're explaining why you dislike drugs by citing an example of when you reacted violently against someone. Kind of like me saying I'm a recovering alcoholic so whenever I walk past a pub I hit someone outside having a smoke to register my disagreement.
Quote from: Vulhala on Mar 04, 2012, 01:25:15 AM
The rest was fairly serious however. You're explaining why you dislike drugs by citing an example of when you reacted violently against someone. Kind of like me saying I'm a recovering alcoholic so whenever I walk past a pub I hit someone outside having a smoke to register my disagreement.
I punched him becuase I have a huge dislike for weed. That part wasn't suppose to make sense, I just stated something I did.
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It was good enough for Bogart :P
Quote from: evolution_rex on Mar 04, 2012, 12:59:35 AM
A reason why I dislike weed so much is that a lot of time when the weed smokers present themselves like they're full of peace and stuff, yet they'll make fun of the people who don't smoke it. I've been made fun of many times by a lot of different people. A friend who sells weed promised he'd make me a pot head yesterday, and I punched him in the face and I haven't talked to him sense. I'm not against marijuana being legal, but people are always harassing me, trying to get me high. That is what gets me about weed, and is why I personally will never smoke it nor allow my friends to smoke it in front of me. I have too many personal feelings against it.
But, there is not much wrong with weed except for the drowsy state it puts you in and the revolting smell. It can be addictive, but everything can be addictive. It does change people though. I've had older brothers and friends who've transformed negatively. However, those changes probably happened becuase it is illegal. When doing an illegal thing, it causes them to do other illegal things, so sometimes it changes people into total douche bags who you can't stand. So, if it was legal, I don't think people would change themselves so negatively.
You are 15,More than likely your friends smoke it because it's ''
cool''
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 04, 2012, 01:09:27 AM
Synthetic crap laced with boot polish.
They prefer the term 'artificial smoking' themselves.
Don't abuse drugs. If you're nice to them, they'll be nice to you. Maybe.
Quote from: evolution_rex on Mar 04, 2012, 01:37:15 AM
Quote from: Vulhala on Mar 04, 2012, 01:25:15 AM
The rest was fairly serious however. You're explaining why you dislike drugs by citing an example of when you reacted violently against someone. Kind of like me saying I'm a recovering alcoholic so whenever I walk past a pub I hit someone outside having a smoke to register my disagreement.
I punched him becuase I have a huge dislike for weed. That part wasn't suppose to make sense, I just stated something I did.
You're an idiot. Next time, if there is a next time, say "No thanks" and walk off.
A recent study shows that occasional weed smoking does not negatively effect the lungs like tobacco does. Fancy that.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/11/news/la-heb-marijuana-20120111 (http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/11/news/la-heb-marijuana-20120111)
The dangers of weed are so small in comparison to legal drugs its amazing that its not legal. I agree that you shouldn't operate heavy machinery on it though. If all politicians smoked a joint then ate their favourite food, listened to their favourite music, watched their favourite movie then had sex they'd realise that it enhances life.
Blaze it up.
Quote from: Rothschild on Mar 06, 2012, 07:11:40 AM
I agree that you shouldn't operate heavy machinery on it though.
Especially if you qualify for a desk job. And that's good advice anytime.
Quote from: evolution_rex on Mar 04, 2012, 01:16:34 AM
Quote from: Vulhala on Mar 04, 2012, 01:04:01 AM
I don't find the smell in the least bit disgusting. And if you're running around punching your friends in the face anyway, your argument is invalid :laugh:
I don't punch my friends often, and what exactly do you think my argument was? All I did was share an experience and a reason why I hate weed. Wasn't exactly an argument...
Funniest shit ive read on these forums for a long time. Bahahahaha
Quote from: Rothschild on Mar 06, 2012, 07:11:40 AM
A recent study shows that occasional weed smoking does not negatively effect the lungs like tobacco does. Fancy that.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/11/news/la-heb-marijuana-20120111 (http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/11/news/la-heb-marijuana-20120111)
The dangers of weed are so small in comparison to legal drugs its amazing that its not legal. I agree that you shouldn't operate heavy machinery on it though. If all politicians smoked a joint then ate their favourite food, listened to their favourite music, watched their favourite movie then had sex they'd realise that it enhances life.
Blaze it up.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did lines of coke once in a while. As politicians they likely learn how to control it :P
Quote from: Rothschild on Mar 06, 2012, 07:11:40 AM
If all politicians smoked a joint then ate their favourite food, listened to their favourite music, watched their favourite movie then had sex they'd realise that it enhances life.
Blaze it up.
Oh, we've all heard the story from the politicians: "I tried it once in university but I didn't inhale!" Unless you're:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqep14L2f7k# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqep14L2f7k#)
True or false, are all illegal drugs the same? Does doing illegal drugs make a person a bad person/scum?
Quote from: evolution_rex on Mar 04, 2012, 12:59:35 AM
A reason why I dislike weed so much is that a lot of time when the weed smokers present themselves like they're full of peace and stuff, yet they'll make fun of the people who don't smoke it. I've been made fun of many times by a lot of different people. A friend who sells weed promised he'd make me a pot head yesterday, and I punched him in the face and I haven't talked to him sense. I'm not against marijuana being legal, but people are always harassing me, trying to get me high. That is what gets me about weed, and is why I personally will never smoke it nor allow my friends to smoke it in front of me.
Yeah yeah,Like people harassing people because they are virgin.
And when they finally try it, they discover they could have missed SOMETHING ;D
I smoke Mary J now and again, but that's it, I'd never do anything else. Besides, I only do it when I can get it for free. I'm also not fond of alcohol, just never understood whats so fun about puking your own spine out. Just as long as you don't abuse drugs, they wont abuse you
i never took drugs! ok, only once and since that: it's been a helluvva-trip!
Nice av there kol
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Mar 06, 2012, 07:43:08 PM
True or false, are all illegal drugs the same? Does doing illegal drugs make a person a bad person/scum?
False in both cases. Doing drugs doesn't make you a bad person despite popular belief.
Doing drugs doesn't make you a bad person in the least; addiction to some of the "harder" illegal drugs, on the other hand, makes what may be good people do "bad," (ie: harmfull to society) things.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 12, 2012, 12:52:24 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Mar 06, 2012, 07:43:08 PM
True or false, are all illegal drugs the same? Does doing illegal drugs make a person a bad person/scum?
False in both cases. Doing drugs doesn't make you a bad person despite popular belief.
Well I would think it would depend on what drug you're taking. A pothead is generally more likeable and not as scummy as let's say a coke user or heroine addict. I mean people don't usually offer sexual services to get pot while the latter is infamous for the supposed act of depravity. Though, I do know some shady potheads but from my experiences, there is a fine line between a run of the mill stoner and someone who's injecting needles and selling their children for the habit.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Mar 13, 2012, 02:13:25 AMWell I would think it would depend on what drug you're taking. A pothead is generally more likeable and not as scummy as let's say a coke user or heroine addict. I mean people don't usually offer sexual services to get pot while the latter is infamous for the supposed act of depravity. Though, I do know some shady potheads but from my experiences, there is a fine line between a run of the mill stoner and someone who's injecting needles and selling their children for the habit.
You've set drug culture studies back 60 years.
Quote from: maledoro on Mar 13, 2012, 12:27:12 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Mar 13, 2012, 02:13:25 AMWell I would think it would depend on what drug you're taking. A pothead is generally more likeable and not as scummy as let's say a coke user or heroine addict. I mean people don't usually offer sexual services to get pot while the latter is infamous for the supposed act of depravity. Though, I do know some shady potheads but from my experiences, there is a fine line between a run of the mill stoner and someone who's injecting needles and selling their children for the habit.
You've set drug culture studies back 60 years.
How so? Am I wrong in that there's quite a difference between a stoner and a crackhead? Surely I'd hope you think there is unless you're of those anti-drug sillyheads who think all drugs are bad and one and the same. Would you disagree if I said stoners are more peaceful and not as threatening as the average coke user/ hard drug user?After all, the levels of depravity are usually more severe and like I said, people dont offer to do extraordinary stuff in return for pot whereas it is quite common for someone to go to low levels in order to get a cocaine fix. Even Bob Saget says "people dont suck d**k for weed". Sure there are similarities but its really not rational to lump stoners into the same category as coke users and hard drug afficionados. You catch my drift? or otherwise prove me wrong, put me in my place.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Mar 13, 2012, 01:28:20 PMHow so? Am I wrong in that there's quite a difference between a stoner and a crackhead? Surely I'd hope you think there is unless you're of those anti-drug sillyheads who think all drugs are bad and one and the same. Would you disagree if I said stoners are more peaceful and not as threatening as the average coke user/ hard drug user?After all, the levels of depravity are usually more severe and like I said, people dont offer to do extraordinary stuff in return for pot whereas it is quite common for someone to go to low levels in order to get a cocaine fix. Even Bob Saget says "people dont suck d**k for weed". Sure there are similarities but its really not rational to lump stoners into the same category as coke users and hard drug afficionados. You catch my drift? or otherwise prove me wrong, put me in my place.
Dude, light a bowl and head on down to City Lights Books.
Quote from: maledoro on Mar 13, 2012, 10:39:25 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Mar 13, 2012, 01:28:20 PMHow so? Am I wrong in that there's quite a difference between a stoner and a crackhead? Surely I'd hope you think there is unless you're of those anti-drug sillyheads who think all drugs are bad and one and the same. Would you disagree if I said stoners are more peaceful and not as threatening as the average coke user/ hard drug user?After all, the levels of depravity are usually more severe and like I said, people dont offer to do extraordinary stuff in return for pot whereas it is quite common for someone to go to low levels in order to get a cocaine fix. Even Bob Saget says "people dont suck d**k for weed". Sure there are similarities but its really not rational to lump stoners into the same category as coke users and hard drug afficionados. You catch my drift? or otherwise prove me wrong, put me in my place.
Dude, light a bowl and head on down to City Lights Books.
How dare you call me a liberal. It is well known around here that I align myself along with the staunchest of Libertarians. Besides, I much prefer the slowly dying peacefulness of my neighborhood Barnes and Noble for browsing enjoyment.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Mar 13, 2012, 02:13:25 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 12, 2012, 12:52:24 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Mar 06, 2012, 07:43:08 PM
True or false, are all illegal drugs the same? Does doing illegal drugs make a person a bad person/scum?
False in both cases. Doing drugs doesn't make you a bad person despite popular belief.
Well I would think it would depend on what drug you're taking. A pothead is generally more likeable and not as scummy as let's say a coke user or heroine addict. I mean people don't usually offer sexual services to get pot while the latter is infamous for the supposed act of depravity. Though, I do know some shady potheads but from my experiences, there is a fine line between a run of the mill stoner and someone who's injecting needles and selling their children for the habit.
0_0 what century are you living in?
I know potheads and they're some of the nicest people in the world. What turns people violent not likeable I find is alcohol, not recreational drugs. When people ingest pot or whatever the case may be, they tend to keep to themselves and just be mellow about stuff. Alcohol makes people lash out.
Drugs used for medical perposes are good to heal/treat the sick. But those that take illegal drugs are harming themselves and those around them.
If there are people around them.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 14, 2012, 03:32:43 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Mar 13, 2012, 02:13:25 AMWell I would think it would depend on what drug you're taking. A pothead is generally more likeable and not as scummy as let's say a coke user or heroine addict. I mean people don't usually offer sexual services to get pot while the latter is infamous for the supposed act of depravity. Though, I do know some shady potheads but from my experiences, there is a fine line between a run of the mill stoner and someone who's injecting needles and selling their children for the habit.
0_0 what century are you living in?
In his defense (yeah, I can't believe I said it, too), he's living in the 20th century. Up until the earlier decades of the 20th century, drugs were pretty much a-ok. As far as attitude and knowledge of drugs and culture, he's pretty much stuck in the 1940s and 1950s.
Quote from: maledoro on Mar 15, 2012, 02:43:28 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 14, 2012, 03:32:43 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Mar 13, 2012, 02:13:25 AMWell I would think it would depend on what drug you're taking. A pothead is generally more likeable and not as scummy as let's say a coke user or heroine addict. I mean people don't usually offer sexual services to get pot while the latter is infamous for the supposed act of depravity. Though, I do know some shady potheads but from my experiences, there is a fine line between a run of the mill stoner and someone who's injecting needles and selling their children for the habit.
0_0 what century are you living in?
In his defense (yeah, I can't believe I said it, too),he's living in the 20th century. Up until the earlier decades of the 20th century, drugs were pretty much a-ok. As far as attitude and knowledge of drugs and culture, he's pretty much stuck in the 1940s and 1950s.
I knew you were getting soft.
I've mellowed over the years. No pun intended.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Mar 13, 2012, 02:13:25 AM
Well I would think it would depend on what drug you're taking. A pothead is generally more likeable and not as scummy as let's say a coke user or heroine addict. I mean people don't usually offer sexual services to get pot while the latter is infamous for the supposed act of depravity. Though, I do know some shady potheads but from my experiences, there is a fine line between a run of the mill stoner and someone who's injecting needles and selling their children for the habit.
Funniest post i've read in a long time.
I'm sorry but you clearly don't have a clue what you are talking about.
Kirkland doesn't get it. He doesn't get anything. In fact...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6R86SXL1pI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6R86SXL1pI#ws)
You just made my day.
you all should...
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Quote from: Effectz on Mar 15, 2012, 10:23:55 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Mar 13, 2012, 02:13:25 AM
Well I would think it would depend on what drug you're taking. A pothead is generally more likeable and not as scummy as let's say a coke user or heroine addict. I mean people don't usually offer sexual services to get pot while the latter is infamous for the supposed act of depravity. Though, I do know some shady potheads but from my experiences, there is a fine line between a run of the mill stoner and someone who's injecting needles and selling their children for the habit.
Funniest post i've read in a long time.
I'm sorry but you clearly don't have a clue what you are talking about.
I'm right though in that not all drug users can be lumped into a "bad" category. When I asked that question, I was asking for others opinion since alot of the older generation seems to think all drug users are one and the same. Point is, a stoner isn't as low in my opinion as someone who does crack cocaine.
I do Cocaine sometimes,does that make me more scummy?
No, it depends on what you did to get it, did you pawn your xbox games or raid your kids piggy bank? I dont know why you took offense, All I was trying to say was there are differences between a person who takes hard drugs and someone who tokes the reefer. From a legal standpoint, this is true because generally the offense for getting caught with pot is less severe than getting caught with rocks.
You are talking about addicts.
Quote from: Effectz on Mar 16, 2012, 04:19:02 PM
You are talking about addicts.
Yes,
A hard drug addict is a whole different monster and warrants a distinction of being generally more "low" compared to marijuana users. Of course, the statement above is my opinion and should not be taken as true statement.
Quote from: evolution_rex on Mar 04, 2012, 01:37:15 AM
Quote from: Vulhala on Mar 04, 2012, 01:25:15 AM
The rest was fairly serious however. You're explaining why you dislike drugs by citing an example of when you reacted violently against someone. Kind of like me saying I'm a recovering alcoholic so whenever I walk past a pub I hit someone outside having a smoke to register my disagreement.
I punched him becuase I have a huge dislike for weed. That part wasn't suppose to make sense, I just stated something I did.
surprised they are still friends with you if they are cause that's a shady thing to do because he smokes weed and you don't because your one of those people who are hard core anti drugs and looks down on every one who has done or does does whether its a hard drug or pot.imo you of those stuck up people who thinks they are better then the people hes around going by your arrogant comment.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Mar 16, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: Effectz on Mar 16, 2012, 04:19:02 PM
You are talking about addicts.
Yes,
A hard drug addict is a whole different monster and warrants a distinction of being generally more "low" compared to marijuana users. Of course, the statement above is my opinion and should not be taken as true statement.
An addict isn't a monster. He is someone who seriously needs help. Until society starts viewing addicts as health patients instead of violent criminals, our attitudes towards drugs will never change.
Quote from: Effectz on Mar 16, 2012, 04:07:39 PM
I do Cocaine
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Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 16, 2012, 10:23:12 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Mar 16, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: Effectz on Mar 16, 2012, 04:19:02 PM
You are talking about addicts.
Yes,
A hard drug addict is a whole different monster and warrants a distinction of being generally more "low" compared to marijuana users. Of course, the statement above is my opinion and should not be taken as true statement.
An addict isn't a monster. He is someone who seriously needs help. Until society starts viewing addicts as health patients instead of violent criminals, our attitudes towards drugs will never change.
This. Addiction is a medical issue, but it is treated (in many places, like the US) as a criminal issue. Criminal acts done in the throws of addiction are one thing, but the addiction itself is not criminal.
Don't really do any illegal drugs myself, but all this money and time law enforcement spends on it is kinda stupid. The Mexican drug lords have made billions just like the mafia made during prohibition in the U.S in the 20's and 30's.
Prohibition actually made the Mafia a power in the U.S, So the U.S government is to blame for much of the mafia coming into power in the U.S.
In Australia it has been recomended that we legalize some drugs as the only people making a profit from them are Bikie gangs and criminal organisations. Plus if you take into fat a lot of people who pass the laws making these drugs illegal use those same drugs or have used them. Just watch Boardwalk Empire all the officials and politicians still drink alcohol its the old do as i say not as i do!
Yesterday I had my last zute for the foreseeable future and dumped the rest of the score in a corn beef and pasta meal I ate about a half hour ago. The reason I'm stopping is because I hear things I know aren't really being said but no matter how much I know it's not real it still sounds real like an echo in the back of my head and this is when I'm not high, when I am high I spend it in a panicked state wondering if people can hear my inside voice. No more it's stupid to keep that up I'm just wasting my money and life, I had some good years and how knows maybe I'll feel I'm in a place where I can do it without having to look over my back and really enjoy it like the college days. But for now I'm not touching the stuff.
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This should get me by. :)
I started smoking weed about three months ago. I probably smoke 3 - 4 times a week until last week. I haven't for almost a week now though, moderation in all things.
Quote from: The PredBen on Nov 01, 2012, 11:14:25 PM
I started smoking weed about three months ago. I probably smoke 3 - 4 times a week until last week. I haven't for almost a week now though, moderation in all things.
Weed was awesome. It's hard to stop though, especially if you light up multiple times a day. I did alot back in the day and I had to come up with things to do because smoking was a boredom thing. If I wasn't toking, I was bored as hell!
I generally smoke once or twice every few weeks. I keep it moderate. Never any hard drugs.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Nov 02, 2012, 04:20:11 PM
Quote from: The PredBen on Nov 01, 2012, 11:14:25 PM
I started smoking weed about three months ago. I probably smoke 3 - 4 times a week until last week. I haven't for almost a week now though, moderation in all things.
Weed was awesome. It's hard to stop though, especially if you light up multiple times a day. I did alot back in the day and I had to come up with things to do because smoking was a boredom thing. If I wasn't toking, I was bored as hell!
Boredom can be the thing. I -with a flatmate- spent 6 months smoking every day,
all day, then things were picking up at university, I needed my brain (and money), and quit cold turkey. I managed no bother, but my flatmate couldn't help himself. He was more idle.
I went up to my friends apartment tonight,my friend went picking mushrooms.So I had about 20 of these things,they tasted like ass after drying them.The 3 of us sat down and watched Baraka.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG9P7JWtxhw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG9P7JWtxhw#)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uBr9Dq5rs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uBr9Dq5rs#ws)]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uBr9Dq5rs
It's just random video that won awards full of crazy stuff.3 of us just laughed for about 3 hours at it,it was pretty amazing.Conversations were basically based on how we're f**king the planet up,followed by convulsive laughing.
I used to believe magic mushrooms were a street name for another drug. I was actually surprised to learn they are legitimate mushrooms.
Quote from: Effectz on Nov 09, 2012, 06:34:51 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uBr9Dq5rs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uBr9Dq5rs#ws)]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uBr9Dq5rs
It's just random video that won awards full of crazy stuff.3 of us just laughed for about 3 hours at it,it was pretty amazing.Conversations were basically based on how we're f**king the planet up,followed by convulsive laughing.
Didn't know the whole thing was on YT. There's a sequel out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0xVp3N-M84#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0xVp3N-M84#ws)
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 09, 2012, 01:41:02 PM
I used to believe magic mushrooms were a street name for another drug. I was actually surprised to learn they are legitimate mushrooms.
Some interesting reading for you, from yer Uncle Mal's bookshelf:
Magic Mushrooms (http://www.roninpub.com/magmus.html)
Growing Wild Mushrooms (http://www.roninpub.com/growil.html)
Psilocybin Production (http://www.roninpub.com/Psil.html)
Hallucinogenic and Poisonous Mushroom Field Guide (http://www.roninpub.com/HalPoi.html)
...for starters.
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Quote from: Valaquen on Nov 09, 2012, 01:43:27 PM
Quote from: Effectz on Nov 09, 2012, 06:34:51 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uBr9Dq5rs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uBr9Dq5rs#ws)]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uBr9Dq5rs
It's just random video that won awards full of crazy stuff.3 of us just laughed for about 3 hours at it,it was pretty amazing.Conversations were basically based on how we're f**king the planet up,followed by convulsive laughing.
Didn't know the whole thing was on YT. There's a sequel out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0xVp3N-M84#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0xVp3N-M84#ws)
cancel all my meetings.
Quote from: maledoro on Nov 09, 2012, 02:25:52 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 09, 2012, 01:41:02 PM
I used to believe magic mushrooms were a street name for another drug. I was actually surprised to learn they are legitimate mushrooms.
Some interesting reading for you, from yer Uncle Mal's bookshelf:
Magic Mushrooms (http://www.roninpub.com/magmus.html)
Growing Wild Mushrooms (http://www.roninpub.com/growil.html)
Psilocybin Production (http://www.roninpub.com/Psil.html)
Hallucinogenic and Poisonous Mushroom Field Guide (http://www.roninpub.com/HalPoi.html)
...for starters.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/maledoro/drugz/27eb5428.gif
Only you would recommend these.
Quote from: Valaquen on Nov 09, 2012, 01:43:27 PM
Quote from: Effectz on Nov 09, 2012, 06:34:51 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uBr9Dq5rs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uBr9Dq5rs#ws)]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uBr9Dq5rs
It's just random video that won awards full of crazy stuff.3 of us just laughed for about 3 hours at it,it was pretty amazing.Conversations were basically based on how we're f**king the planet up,followed by convulsive laughing.
Didn't know the whole thing was on YT. There's a sequel out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0xVp3N-M84#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0xVp3N-M84#ws)
I'll watch that one next week! haha.The soundtrack is f**king amazing.
Quote from: maledoro on Nov 09, 2012, 02:25:52 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 09, 2012, 01:41:02 PM
I used to believe magic mushrooms were a street name for another drug. I was actually surprised to learn they are legitimate mushrooms.
Some interesting reading for you, from yer Uncle Mal's bookshelf:
Magic Mushrooms (http://www.roninpub.com/magmus.html)
Growing Wild Mushrooms (http://www.roninpub.com/growil.html)
Psilocybin Production (http://www.roninpub.com/Psil.html)
Hallucinogenic and Poisonous Mushroom Field Guide (http://www.roninpub.com/HalPoi.html)
...for starters.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/maledoro/drugz/27eb5428.gif
My kind of man! I find it interesting that you may have experienced a few trips(or maybe you didn't) without coming out after as a spiritual person. You don't have to admit to partaking of shrooms, I just want to ask you if you believe shrooms to be a tool to regain a certain degree of "spiritualness" after recovering from religion. From personal experience, I woud say it is but I'd like to hear your opinion on the matter.
Don't support it at all, even though a couple of my buddies back home still do it. I love hearing about DEA Agents taking the scum down, especially the FAST teams harsh approach to taking the f**kers out.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Nov 09, 2012, 03:30:41 PMMy kind of man! I find it interesting that you may have experienced a few trips(or maybe you didn't) without coming out after as a spiritual person. You don't have to admit to partaking of shrooms, I just want to ask you if you believe shrooms to be a tool to regain a certain degree of "spiritualness" after recovering from religion. From personal experience, I woud say it is but I'd like to hear your opinion on the matter.
Just something to see while listening to krautrock.
Quote from: Private Hudson on Nov 10, 2012, 06:55:05 AM
Don't support it at all, even though a couple of my buddies back home still do it. I love hearing about DEA Agents taking the scum down, especially the FAST teams harsh approach to taking the f**kers out.
So you think people should be criminalized for making a conscious decision as adults to ingest a substance that alters their state of mind?
I dont really care if anyone around me is doing drugs, but as long as its illegal, I probably won't do it. My advice to the US Government? Legalize marijuana and tax the shit out of it. XD
Quote from: Dovahkiin on Nov 14, 2012, 01:21:00 PMMy advice to the US Government? Legalize marijuana and tax the shit out of it. XD
I've been saying that for years. If they legalize it, they could also keep prices down and quality up via regulations. Also, crime would drop.
hate them. Never took and never will. Been around people that have and I see their lives turn to shit. Why put something in your mouth that has been made in someones scummy bathroom/toliet or worse. f**k drugs.
Quote from: Vepariga on Nov 14, 2012, 11:42:54 PMWhy put something in your mouth that has been made in someones scummy bathroom/toliet or worse.
...when you can grow/make your own?
;)
I bought a kit to grow magic mushrooms online,pretty simple.
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She brings the rain, it feels like spring,
Magic mushrooms out of dreams,
She brings the rain,
Oh yeah, she brings the rain.
Quote from: Vepariga on Nov 14, 2012, 11:42:54 PM
hate them. Never took and never will. Been around people that have and I see their lives turn to shit. Why put something in your mouth that has been made in someones scummy bathroom/toliet or worse. f**k drugs.
Do you drink alcohol?
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 15, 2012, 11:51:05 AM
Quote from: Vepariga on Nov 14, 2012, 11:42:54 PM
hate them. Never took and never will. Been around people that have and I see their lives turn to shit. Why put something in your mouth that has been made in someones scummy bathroom/toliet or worse. f**k drugs.
Do you drink alcohol?
Crazy isn't it.He talks about scummy bathrooms (best experiences probebly came from a kitchen sink who knows),but in all reality the drugs he takes involve legal operations like smoking and drinking which clincally kill you.It's ok though it's legal so it must be better.
So that's my opinion,I'm pretty convinced I've done everything when it comes to the collective members in a whole,except heroin crack and crystal meth of course.I had friends who started off like me,smoking pot,doing small things then they became bigger.A friend of mine started selling Cocaine,I will call him Dave(Finctional name)Anyways Dave began selling cocaine,he was making thousands every 3 weeks when he got rid of his stash.I remember walking into Daves room and he had a coffee table with a mirror on the bottom full of cocaine,at least 30 grand worth of it,im talking small mountains.Right then when I seen that I decided to walk away from what I had seen.That meaned walking away from a friend who I knew for years but I did it,9 months later he got shot twice,he survived thank god.The 2 bullets went into his back(because he was running away)it was a revolver,He ended up in hospital for weeks,the bullets bounced off his spine and lodged in his bowel so he had to get that removed.He has IBS now which is a blessing compared to what could of happened to him,nobody wants to be taking a dump in a bag.
That sounds much more fun than a pint and a fag.
Quote from: SM on Nov 23, 2012, 04:20:03 AM
That sounds much more fun than a pint and a fag.
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Quote from: Vepariga on Nov 14, 2012, 11:42:54 PM
hate them. Never took and never will. Been around people that have and I see their lives turn to shit. Why put something in your mouth that has been made in someones scummy bathroom/toliet or worse. f**k drugs.
Why put something in your mouth that was used in a bathroom/toilet...Sorry, I had a perverted moment from reading your post.
Quote from: EEV2650 on Nov 23, 2012, 06:56:33 AM
Quote from: Vepariga on Nov 14, 2012, 11:42:54 PM
hate them. Never took and never will. Been around people that have and I see their lives turn to shit. Why put something in your mouth that has been made in someones scummy bathroom/toliet or worse. f**k drugs.
Why put something in your mouth that was used in a bathroom/toilet...Sorry, I had a perverted moment from reading your post.
What did you think he put in his mouth?A bar of Dove soap or possibly a Billy Zane sponge
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Note to the female's of the species.
Yeah....Don't jump in the shower with EEV2650
Quote from: Effectz on Nov 23, 2012, 03:45:45 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 15, 2012, 11:51:05 AM
Quote from: Vepariga on Nov 14, 2012, 11:42:54 PM
hate them. Never took and never will. Been around people that have and I see their lives turn to shit. Why put something in your mouth that has been made in someones scummy bathroom/toliet or worse. f**k drugs.
Do you drink alcohol?
Crazy isn't it.He talks about scummy bathrooms (best experiences probebly came from a kitchen sink who knows),but in all reality the drugs he takes involve legal operations like smoking and drinking which clincally kill you.It's ok though it's legal so it must be better.
So that's my opinion,I'm pretty convinced I've done everything when it comes to the collective members in a whole,except heroin crack and crystal meth of course.I had friends who started off like me,smoking pot,doing small things then they became bigger.A friend of mine started selling Cocaine,I will call him Dave(Finctional name)Anyways Dave began selling cocaine,he was making thousands every 3 weeks when he got rid of his stash.I remember walking into Daves room and he had a coffee table with a mirror on the bottom full of cocaine,at least 30 grand worth of it,im talking small mountains.Right then when I seen that I decided to walk away from what I had seen.That meaned walking away from a friend who I knew for years but I did it,9 months later he got shot twice,he survived thank god.The 2 bullets went into his back(because he was running away)it was a revolver,He ended up in hospital for weeks,the bullets bounced off his spine and lodged in his bowel so he had to get that removed.He has IBS now which is a blessing compared to what could of happened to him,nobody wants to be taking a dump in a bag.
I'm sorry to hear that. But if I may, and I'm not accusing you of this...if alcohol or tobacco were illegal, he could have been shot over that. If drugs were legal, that wouldn't have happened. I'm almost certain of that.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 23, 2012, 07:55:38 AM
Quote from: Effectz on Nov 23, 2012, 03:45:45 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 15, 2012, 11:51:05 AM
Quote from: Vepariga on Nov 14, 2012, 11:42:54 PM
hate them. Never took and never will. Been around people that have and I see their lives turn to shit. Why put something in your mouth that has been made in someones scummy bathroom/toliet or worse. f**k drugs.
Do you drink alcohol?
Crazy isn't it.He talks about scummy bathrooms (best experiences probebly came from a kitchen sink who knows),but in all reality the drugs he takes involve legal operations like smoking and drinking which clincally kill you.It's ok though it's legal so it must be better.
So that's my opinion,I'm pretty convinced I've done everything when it comes to the collective members in a whole,except heroin crack and crystal meth of course.I had friends who started off like me,smoking pot,doing small things then they became bigger.A friend of mine started selling Cocaine,I will call him Dave(Finctional name)Anyways Dave began selling cocaine,he was making thousands every 3 weeks when he got rid of his stash.I remember walking into Daves room and he had a coffee table with a mirror on the bottom full of cocaine,at least 30 grand worth of it,im talking small mountains.Right then when I seen that I decided to walk away from what I had seen.That meaned walking away from a friend who I knew for years but I did it,9 months later he got shot twice,he survived thank god.The 2 bullets went into his back(because he was running away)it was a revolver,He ended up in hospital for weeks,the bullets bounced off his spine and lodged in his bowel so he had to get that removed.He has IBS now which is a blessing compared to what could of happened to him,nobody wants to be taking a dump in a bag.
I'm sorry to hear that. But if I may, and I'm not accusing you of this...if alcohol or tobacco were illegal, he could have been shot over that. If drugs were legal, that wouldn't have happened. I'm almost certain of that.
You have nothing to be sorry about my friend,It was his choice he decided to follow that path,he knew the road he was going down.It was also my choice to follow with him but I got away from it.If tobacco and drink was illegal i'm certain he would of been in the same boat.In today's society though it's the things that are proven to end your life prematurely are tolerated.(CIGS,ALCOHOL)
It's a strange world we live in.If it is taxed and it make's money it's acceptable.Washington and Colorado legalized Weed,I think,is a step forward.I smoke weed probebly once or twice a week,mainly before I go to bed of if I'm stressed.I personally as a smoker find absolutely nothing wrong with it.You don't see people puking on the street,pissing on themselves and fighting with other people after smoking a bong or a joint.It also has medical properties.My Cousin was Married to a girl but she developed Motor Neuron Syndrom,it's very rare but it basically shuts down all your muscles like breathing and coughing and you basically die of infections in the lungs.My cousin would come to me looking for some weed for his wife because it was basically the only thing that would help her through her condition while still being relatively normal.The medication the doctors would give her would basically turn her into a zombie,she wouldn't be able to think properly or anything.So it was kinda hard for me buying/setting up these deals for my cousin who is a Karate,fitness Guru.It was a real eye opener for me.Sadly she died of Pneumonia two years go but the weed gave her a somewhat normal a tolerable life.
It should be legal,in the words of Arnold.
"It's only a leaf"
It's like I said a few pages back. Until drug addiction is seen as a health problem as opposed to a crime problem, attitudes towards them won't change. I honestly don't know where the line was drawn, between alcohol and tobacco being socially acceptable and things such as LSD or coke not sharing the same status. If a consenting adult chooses to ingest a substance which alters his or her state of mind and is conscious of their decision, then that's their business.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 23, 2012, 08:53:53 AM
It's like I said a few pages back. Until drug addiction is seen as a health problem as opposed to a crime problem, attitudes towards them won't change. I honestly don't know where the line was drawn, between alcohol and tobacco being socially acceptable and things such as LSD or coke not sharing the same status. If a consenting adult chooses to ingest a substance which alters his or her state of mind and is conscious of their decision, then that's their business.
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There's too much stigma attached to it though,I've done some pretty mind altering substances like Acid and DMT I didn't end up eating people alive or gouging my eyes out with a spoon,I'm sure if there was a schizophrenic who done those things the media would blame the drug rather than the state of mind he was in.Letting a schizophrenic Drink copious amounts of Alcohol is totally legal though.You find out 2 weeks later in the news he killed 2 people.
Double edged sword.
I think in time it will change. Marijuana is only the first step. The only drug I have a hard time justifying legalisation of though is heroine. It doesn't even have a medical application, unlike cocaine which can be used as anesthetic.
I don't understand Heroin junkies either,all you have to do is look/listen to them and you know he/She is on the gear.It just ravages people,they can't function normally unless they shoot up with a bit of smack.It's a terrible drug.It's a person's choice to do it.It has alot to do with upbringing and all that I think.
But then you have these so called doctors calling Alcoholism and Heroin addiction a disease,it's not a disease,you chose to do it.
Instantly popped into my head the worst toilet in Scotland from trainspotting.Good analogy of Heroin users.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJrWlHRT-18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJrWlHRT-18#)
To everybody saying weed didn't do anything the first time to you, two things
1.) It was probably weak shit
2.) The first time you do it, your body isn't used to the experience and can't recognize it
lol
Weed should be legal. Alcohol and tobacco should be illegal. More lives are ruined and families torn apart from alcohol than marijuana.
As far as other drugs go, I don't go for the synthetic / lab drugs. Those mess you up.
My first joint relaxed me so it definitely did something, even it was minor.
Quote from: VEF214 on Dec 03, 2012, 02:34:48 AM
To everybody saying weed didn't do anything the first time to you, two things
1.) It was probably weak shit
2.) The first time you do it, your body isn't used to the experience and can't recognize it
lol
Weed should be legal. Alcohol and tobacco should be illegal. More lives are ruined and families torn apart from alcohol than marijuana.
As far as other drugs go, I don't go for the synthetic / lab drugs. Those mess you up.
Congratulations, you just added to the problem.
I'm just going off of personal experience, from alcohol addictions tearing apart families, to people I know dying from emphysema. Just seems kinda silly to sell death sticks to people (that you can buy when YOU ARE 18), as well as substances that can easily be over-consumed that reduce you to a bumbling rambling incoherent mess of a person within minutes.
Well thank you. I'm just looking at the disturbing and staggering death tolls and statistics. In my opinion, they are an unwelcome guest in society that people have just gotten used to and accept them only because they are so engrained in our societal psyche. At least you don't go home and beat your wife and abuse your kids when you're high. And cigarettes? Why don't you stoop down behind a running car and breathe in the exhaust instead.
Only in a perfect world would making them illegal work, unfortunately it will never happen. Oh well, let the cigarette smokers die and the drunks crash and burn. I don't mind people who drink in moderation, but I have 0 tolerance for cigarette smokers. You can smell them from 10 feet away, and 2nd hand smoke is basically infringing on my rights to breathe clean air.
The world is perfect at 10^60. Anything just a bit more or a bit less and the Universe would have collapse into itself.
I'm not one of this who wants to see Drug illegal.
I personally Have no addiction anymore (stopped cigarette, Canabis, alcohol) and I'm never been in any kind of hard drug nor I wish to BUT I must say that I hate this "safety" dialectic people are having with prohibiting drug.
You gonna die one day or another.
I've never personally met a good druggie. Be it crack, heroine, ice, weed, alcohol, ecstasy, prescription abusers, religious drunks... not saying that they do not exist, just haven't meant one. They do always claim to be in control though. Alcoholic and weeder are the worst at that.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 23, 2012, 09:07:26 AMThe only drug I have a hard time justifying legalisation of though is heroine. It doesn't even have a medical application, unlike cocaine which can be used as anesthetic.
Clicky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin#Medical_use).
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Tried Absinthe for the first time overseas. Good shit.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 03, 2012, 01:34:52 PM
I've never personally met a good druggie. Be it crack, heroine, ice, weed, alcohol, ecstasy, prescription abusers, religious drunks... not saying that they do not exist, just haven't meant one. They do always claim to be in control though. Alcoholic and weeder are the worst at that.
Weed is not a physically addictive drug. It's a whole different beast than Alcohol or anything else you've listed up here with it.
Quote from: Deathbearer on Dec 06, 2012, 10:13:47 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 03, 2012, 01:34:52 PM
I've never personally met a good druggie. Be it crack, heroine, ice, weed, alcohol, ecstasy, prescription abusers, religious drunks... not saying that they do not exist, just haven't meant one. They do always claim to be in control though. Alcoholic and weeder are the worst at that.
Weed is not a physically addictive drug. It's a whole different beast than Alcohol or anything else you've listed up here with it.
Exactly my point. People who smoke weed think they're in control yet go off the rocker just as bad as anything else and then deny that they have a problem. They claim it's not as bad or that it's natural but none the less it is still a drug and most people abuse it.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 07, 2012, 02:23:40 AM
Quote from: Deathbearer on Dec 06, 2012, 10:13:47 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 03, 2012, 01:34:52 PM
I've never personally met a good druggie. Be it crack, heroine, ice, weed, alcohol, ecstasy, prescription abusers, religious drunks... not saying that they do not exist, just haven't meant one. They do always claim to be in control though. Alcoholic and weeder are the worst at that.
Weed is not a physically addictive drug. It's a whole different beast than Alcohol or anything else you've listed up here with it.
Exactly my point. People who smoke weed think they're in control yet go off the rocker just as bad as anything else and then deny that they have a problem. They claim it's not as bad or that it's natural but none the less it is still a drug and most people abuse it.
Do you have any personal experience with it? Seems like you don't. Stopping cold-turkey takes 0 willpower.
Quote from: VEF214 on Dec 07, 2012, 02:34:47 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 07, 2012, 02:23:40 AM
Quote from: Deathbearer on Dec 06, 2012, 10:13:47 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 03, 2012, 01:34:52 PM
I've never personally met a good druggie. Be it crack, heroine, ice, weed, alcohol, ecstasy, prescription abusers, religious drunks... not saying that they do not exist, just haven't meant one. They do always claim to be in control though. Alcoholic and weeder are the worst at that.
Weed is not a physically addictive drug. It's a whole different beast than Alcohol or anything else you've listed up here with it.
Exactly my point. People who smoke weed think they're in control yet go off the rocker just as bad as anything else and then deny that they have a problem. They claim it's not as bad or that it's natural but none the less it is still a drug and most people abuse it.
Do you have any personal experience with it? Seems like you don't. Stopping cold-turkey takes 0 willpower.
lol that's not going to work on me but yes I only have what I've seen personally from others. At the same time I know people who smoked for years and quit without second thoughts but I have yet to meet someone who smokes weed that quit. Even when their jobs or homes were on the line. Seems to be weed first, same like anything else.
I'm not against weed btw. I just have not met many people that didn't have problems where weed was involved.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 07, 2012, 04:44:53 AM
Quote from: VEF214 on Dec 07, 2012, 02:34:47 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 07, 2012, 02:23:40 AM
Quote from: Deathbearer on Dec 06, 2012, 10:13:47 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 03, 2012, 01:34:52 PM
I've never personally met a good druggie. Be it crack, heroine, ice, weed, alcohol, ecstasy, prescription abusers, religious drunks... not saying that they do not exist, just haven't meant one. They do always claim to be in control though. Alcoholic and weeder are the worst at that.
Weed is not a physically addictive drug. It's a whole different beast than Alcohol or anything else you've listed up here with it.
Exactly my point. People who smoke weed think they're in control yet go off the rocker just as bad as anything else and then deny that they have a problem. They claim it's not as bad or that it's natural but none the less it is still a drug and most people abuse it.
Do you have any personal experience with it? Seems like you don't. Stopping cold-turkey takes 0 willpower.
lol that's not going to work on me but yes I only have what I've seen personally from others. At the same time I know people who smoked for years and quit without second thoughts but I have yet to meet someone who smokes weed that quit. Even when their jobs or homes were on the line. Seems to be weed first, same like anything else.
I'm not against weed btw. I just have not met many people that didn't have problems where weed was involved.
Could you explain the underlined sentence to me because it's completely contradictory. Cigarette smokers can't stop whenever they want. Why do you think they have so many devices and organizations to help people. You don't see any of that for marijuana. People don't slap on a weed patch to help them quit, they just stop doing it.
Weed has been charted to be less addictive than coffee. The worst it can become is a habit. Habits form because you are used to doing something over and over again. There's nothing psychologically addicting in the plant itself, you just become used to doing it over and over again. It's like leaving your shoes in the same place in the house day after day (if you do it.) Once you become consciously aware of the habit, and if you want to change it, you change it. The people you know must be incredibly irresponsible.
Quote from: VEF214 on Dec 07, 2012, 05:31:11 AM
Cigarette smokers can't stop whenever they want.
Some do. Successfully.
QuotePeople don't slap on a weed patch to help them quit, they just stop doing it.
I've known a few people who've needed medical help to cut down their weed consumption.
QuoteThere's nothing psychologically addicting in the plant itself, you just become used to doing it over and over again. It's like leaving your shoes in the same place in the house day after day (if you do it.) Once you become consciously aware of the habit, and if you want to change it, you change it.
There's
everything psychologically addicting -- there's nothing
physiologically addicting, which are two
entirely different things. You can become
psychologically addicted to anything that makes you feel good. You associate something with pleasure and you keep doing it. Then you have difficulty stopping because your brain wants you to keep it up; you've set up such a powerful association with the act and feeling good you can't cope without it.
For many people it's not as easy as saying "Shit, I do this an awful lot, better cut back". That's some powerfully ignorant nonsense right there.
Drugs are stupid.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 07, 2012, 06:59:28 AM
Quote from: VEF214 on Dec 07, 2012, 05:31:11 AM
Cigarette smokers can't stop whenever they want.
Some do. Successfully.
QuotePeople don't slap on a weed patch to help them quit, they just stop doing it.
I've known a few people who've needed medical help to cut down their weed consumption.
QuoteThere's nothing psychologically addicting in the plant itself, you just become used to doing it over and over again. It's like leaving your shoes in the same place in the house day after day (if you do it.) Once you become consciously aware of the habit, and if you want to change it, you change it.
There's everything psychologically addicting -- there's nothing physiologically addicting, which are two entirely different things. You can become psychologically addicted to anything that makes you feel good. You associate something with pleasure and you keep doing it. Then you have difficulty stopping because your brain wants you to keep it up; you've set up such a powerful association with the act and feeling good you can't cope without it.
For many people it's not as easy as saying "Shit, I do this an awful lot, better cut back". That's some powerfully ignorant nonsense right there.
Both are the 1%. Difficulty stopping is different than not being able to stop at all. 10 being really difficult to stop and 1 being in comparison very easy, weed is a 1/2 while most other drugs are 7/8/9. Nothing more to say really to the rest.
No people, drugs are good. When used appropriately. :)
@VEF214: What I mean is that I have friends who after 30 years of smoking just quit. At the drop of a hat. Yet I have friends that lost their job to do weed. Over and over again. Also had tenants that refused to stop smoking and got evicted. Now they bum out at a friends. Had a family who also smoked weed and well the son is homeless now, all because he wants to smoke weed. When he can't get it he fries. The mom who is also a druggie has a sponsor that pays all of her rent and living expense yet she still does drugs. For her it all started with weed. A guy next door smashed a bunch of cars after the weed stopped working and he hit heroine. And this is like from last month. Like I said, I know of no one that smokes marijuana and is that well off. I know of a few that use medical weed and they are ok. Probably because they use it as intended.
In grad school you know what you never see, stoners. It's a big joke because of carl sagans epic troll that one time.
Drugs are bad m'kay.
I ate about 5 grams of magic mushrooms tonight and watched Samsara,just laughed my ass off followed by mind orgasms.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgEsuXMKeV4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgEsuXMKeV4#ws)
Shit blew my brain straight out of my skull.I'm fully convinced Shrooms are good for your mental well being.
That movie is hard enough to handle normal lol
Quote from: Effectz on Dec 07, 2012, 09:35:39 AM
I ate about 5 grams of magic mushrooms tonight and watched Samsara,just laughed my ass off followed by mind orgasms.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgEsuXMKeV4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgEsuXMKeV4#ws)
Shit blew my brain straight out of my skull.I'm fully convinced Shrooms are good for your mental well being.
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Quote from: Effectz on Dec 07, 2012, 09:35:39 AM
I ate about 5 grams of magic mushrooms tonight and watched Samsara,just laughed my ass off followed by mind orgasms.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgEsuXMKeV4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgEsuXMKeV4#ws)
Shit blew my brain straight out of my skull.I'm fully convinced Shrooms are good for your mental well being.
Easy there.
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The police and drug lords want the war on drugs to continue, strange bedfellows huh. People might want to take a minute, scratch their heads, and ask why this is.
Quote from: VEF214 on Dec 11, 2012, 01:34:45 AM
The police and drug lords want the war on drugs to continue, strange bedfellows huh. People might want to take a minute, scratch their heads, and ask why this is.
The answer is simple. Shift + 4.
Quote from: maledoro on Dec 11, 2012, 01:28:50 AM
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I think you could plaster this on billboards overlooking major highways and you still wouldn't be able to convince naysayers.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 11, 2012, 04:18:04 AM
Quote from: maledoro on Dec 11, 2012, 01:28:50 AM
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I think you could plaster this on billboards overlooking major highways and you still wouldn't be able to convince naysayers.
Maybe because its ridiculous?
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 11, 2012, 07:17:28 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 11, 2012, 04:18:04 AM
Quote from: maledoro on Dec 11, 2012, 01:28:50 AM
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I think you could plaster this on billboards overlooking major highways and you still wouldn't be able to convince naysayers.
Maybe because its ridiculous?
Yea, I'm calling bullshit.
Those number seem a tad bit low, however marijuana must kill about 2000 people through plain stupidity.
It's retarded because the deaths by pot and driving are mounting yearly. People should just be honest about it instead of trying to pretend this junk is totally benign. There are a plethora of unintended consequences that accompany this.
Marijuana is still grossly ignored in industrial environments. It is however categorized as OWI. Which basically contains alcohol, prescription drugs and marijuana. Narcotics have their own field. Most coroners don't even search for it as a cause of death but I know people who drowned because they were high on weed. I don't buy that 0 stat for a moment.
Still, it's easy to believe the overall count is lower than either alcohol and tobacco.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 11, 2012, 09:12:30 AM
Still, it's easy to believe the overall count is lower than either alcohol and tobacco.
It should be, no doubt. That dosen't mean it is a good thing. It retards function. It's also artificially lower because of the stigma attached to it. Legalizing it will likely cause deaths to go up, which of course will result in stronger employer controls. However mosquito transmitted malaria kills more people than all of the above combined and marijuana smoke does bug out mosquitoes. So pot could save a few lives.
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Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 11, 2012, 08:43:05 AM
Those number seem a tad bit low, however marijuana must kill about 2000 people through plain stupidity.
Death from
overdose on weed: still 0. You need to smoke about 15,000 joints in 10 minutes to get a lethal dose of THC in your body.
"Oh my god! Is there a wall full of cogwheels moving down the wall with clowns faces oozing green blood?!"
And THOSE are my thoughts... On drugs....
( bows)
Thank you.
Quote from: VEF214 on Dec 11, 2012, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 11, 2012, 08:43:05 AM
Those number seem a tad bit low, however marijuana must kill about 2000 people through plain stupidity.
Death from overdose on weed: still 0. You need to smoke about 15,000 joints in 10 minutes to get a lethal dose of THC in your body.
lol why not try and see if you are still alive after that. :P
The point is is that it's impossible to overdose and die on marijuana, nobody has ever done it, nobody ever will.
Never say never, kiddo.
My real thoughts are as follows...
Do whatever you want in your own home, just keep it out of my face.
I once lived with a coworker, yeaaaars ago, who had a meth addicted brother who would constantly come by.. He'd offer me some meth and i finally took him by the throat and told him if he asked me one more time i would make him eat it.. He left me alone. :)
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 12, 2012, 03:56:12 AM
Never say never, kiddo.
Don't be condescending.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jO_ncXj7RE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jO_ncXj7RE)
Everyone should watch this (especially naysayers, skeptics, cautious people, and people who fear it.) Lots to learn.
13:10 - 13:23 for the skeptics.
I'm not being condescending. I'm totally serious.
You would asphyxiate first. Therefore...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0U9FgVlLTY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0U9FgVlLTY)
Marijuana is like anything. Eventually the body becomes immune to it and people will then bread stronger plants because of demand. Most pro-videos are propaganda, they just tell people what they want to hear. I think the only thing that you can't overdose on is fiber... and even that isn't true.
The body doesn't become immune, it develops a tolerance. Rampant ignorance is more dangerous than marijuana. Hahaha you cannot overdose on it! :D
1.) Gas mask with marijuana pumping into it. You would pass out or asphyxiate.
2.) Smoking like a chimney. Your mental processes would eventually tell you to stop or you would pass out and sleep.
3.) Eating too many edibles. Your mental processes would tell you to stop, you would throw up, or pass out and fall asleep.
I'm not just saying this because I'm pro-marijuana. Look up the endocannabinoid system. Every human's body is naturally designed to have tons of cannabinoid receptors. Your body has been made to accept marijuana, no matter your political or personal view. Why do you think marijuana stays so long in your system? The plant's history goes as far back as ours does, you can thank evolution.
I think somebody is smoking something and it isn't weed. :P
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 12, 2012, 12:00:11 PM
I think somebody is smoking something and it isn't weed. :P
The man's right. I have no idea what your issue is, though. Taking too much 'Bigotox', I think.
Quote from: VEF214 on Dec 12, 2012, 05:57:14 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 12, 2012, 03:56:12 AM
Never say never, kiddo.
Don't be condescending.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jO_ncXj7RE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jO_ncXj7RE)
Everyone should watch this (especially naysayers, skeptics, cautious people, and people who fear it.) Lots to learn.
13:10 - 13:23 for the skeptics.
Am I the only one who thinks its a bad idea to cross moderators? Probably am, lol.
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 12, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
Quote from: VEF214 on Dec 12, 2012, 05:57:14 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 12, 2012, 03:56:12 AM
Never say never, kiddo.
Don't be condescending.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jO_ncXj7RE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jO_ncXj7RE)
Everyone should watch this (especially naysayers, skeptics, cautious people, and people who fear it.) Lots to learn.
13:10 - 13:23 for the skeptics.
Am I the only one who thinks its a bad idea to cross moderators? Probably am, lol.
We are both humans. It doesn't matter if the person is a mod or not, if I think they are treading on me or trying to belittle my opinion for no good reason then I will stand up for myself. In the end it was just a misunderstanding though.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 12, 2012, 12:00:11 PM
I think somebody is smoking something and it isn't weed. :P
What this means is I'm going to attack the validity of your claim by saying your mental processes are slower and inferior to a normal person's, therefore you must be wrong. No facts, no rebuttal, no nothing. Hell, not even a personal opinion on the matter, just personal attacks. It's fine if you think I'm wrong, but disagree with the facts. Come on lad. ::)
People are so quick and ready to accept pills in a bottle from a guy in a white coat. It's all just experimental medicine that isn't fully understood, most of it, even over-the-counter, can be incredibly dangerous. Yet people fear a plant that has been around for eons, has a 0 overdose track record, is grown completely naturally (go look at how they grow tobacco,) and has no even remotely horrendous side effects backed by concrete evidence. I don't want to live on this planet anymore. I can't wait until society moves on and people stop letting themselves be spoon-fed lies.
http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana (http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana)
Take a look at this website, I bet tons of people go here for facts about marijuana because it's "official" and has .gov in it. People are going through the article then stumble onto a sentence like this:
"In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50-70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke."They'll believe it without a second thought. God help us all. I don't know if it's an untruth, or just a blatant lie. The author(s) should be jailed nonetheless.
You go get em tiger! Show them anti weed people who the boss is! Lol.
Haha :D I used to be anti-weed myself, then I did research.
I think people just say it's good and should be made legal just so it is easier to obtain (I say "f**k 'em"). Drugs are bad m'kay. Like other drugs marijuana just creates problems and makes existing problems worse. You do know health isn't the only concern right? Having it contribute to infertility is the least of worries. What about moral problems or ethical, social, mental problems? That is where the drug becomes a menace. I could tell you stories but I can imagine you don't care.
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 12, 2012, 10:15:35 PM
I think people just say it's good and should be made legal just so it is easier to obtain (I say "f**k 'em"). Drugs are bad m'kay. Like other drugs marijuana just creates problems and makes existing problems worse. You do know health isn't the only concern right? Having it contribute to infertility is the least of worries. What about moral problems or ethical, social, mental problems? That is where the drug becomes a menace. I could tell you stories but I can imagine you don't care.
Oh my god, the bullshit overload is too much!
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Story time it is then...
In cadets, when I was a Sergeant at the time, my regimental sergeant major was going to see his Dad for like the 3rd time or something in his whole life, he was so excited. But then he was ordered to stay and keep charge of the cadets at the armory where we were to sleep. Why? Because the guy who was supposed to be in charge, a guy who had done great service decided... oh, what do you know, marijuana was more important than tending to their responsibilities and allowing the RSM to see his long lost father. I've never seen a RSM so teary eyed and furious at the same time before.
F**k marijuana, it's no better than other drugs.
No one gets left behind she'd say, yea... right...
You don't have to believe me or convert or anything, in fact I find it highly likely you wouldn't. It's just my two cents.
Drugs suck.
I'm not against free weed however I've yet to meet a weeder that wasn't also an idiot or outright angry at the world.
Just come out and say you like to get high. It's no different than alcohol. If I had to choose I would go with the bumbling stoner vs drunk almost any day. Weeds a great thing after all; you can smell dopes from several yards away. Makes not hiring them that much more easier. :)
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 12, 2012, 10:38:55 PM
Story time it is then...
In cadets, when I was a Sergeant at the time, my regimental sergeant major was going to see his Dad for like the 3rd time or something in his whole life, he was so excited. But then he was ordered to stay and keep charge of the cadets at the armory where we were to sleep. Why? Because the guy who was supposed to be in charge, a guy who had done great service decided... oh, what do you know, marijuana was more important than tending to their responsibilities and allowing the RSM to see his long lost father. I've never seen a RSM so teary eyed and furious at the same time before.
F**k marijuana, it's no better than other drugs.
No one gets left behind she'd say, yea... right...
You don't have to believe me or convert or anything, in fact I find it highly likely you wouldn't. It's just my two cents.
Drugs suck.
Alcohol caused my cousin to be beaten by her asshole ex-husband who was a binge drinker. Should we ban that too?
I
tolerate drugs but I'd never use them myself. I was raised better, my father quit smoking for me back in public school. To turn around and smoke or do drugs would be a great betrayel and his sacrifice for nothing, I respect him greatly and I'd rather take my own life. For years people have tried to get me into things but being steadfast I always said no, it actually feels good too. My father quit drinking before I was born, because if he didn't he would of died as it was harming his liver. His 'other sons' (my step brothers) don't see him anymore because they prefer getting drunk with thier step dad rather than being with their sober birth dad. That is one reason why I don't drink, I like making Dad feel like he isn't alone, espeially after all the good he has done for me and still does for me today.
You only get one father and no one lives forever.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 12, 2012, 11:10:28 PM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 12, 2012, 10:38:55 PM
Story time it is then...
In cadets, when I was a Sergeant at the time, my regimental sergeant major was going to see his Dad for like the 3rd time or something in his whole life, he was so excited. But then he was ordered to stay and keep charge of the cadets at the armory where we were to sleep. Why? Because the guy who was supposed to be in charge, a guy who had done great service decided... oh, what do you know, marijuana was more important than tending to their responsibilities and allowing the RSM to see his long lost father. I've never seen a RSM so teary eyed and furious at the same time before.
F**k marijuana, it's no better than other drugs.
No one gets left behind she'd say, yea... right...
You don't have to believe me or convert or anything, in fact I find it highly likely you wouldn't. It's just my two cents.
Drugs suck.
Alcohol caused my cousin to be beaten by her asshole ex-husband who was a binge drinker. Should we ban that too?
It'd be nice, except it's so widely excepted it'd unfortunately do more harm than good. You can only pass laws that restrict but not ban. Banning would cause outright chaos.
Oh man this is getting intense!
Spoiler
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Really? I'm just talkin'
And I'll be honest. When I said "I'd rather take my own life", that was just a spur of the moment, I think everyone gets the idea.
I have friends who are into some drugs, I tolerate and I don't preach, but it doesn't mean I support it. I say no to drugs with a passion and it feels great.
If they respect how I feel than I'll tolerate.
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 12, 2012, 10:38:55 PM
Story time it is then...
In cadets, when I was a Sergeant at the time, my regimental sergeant major was going to see his Dad for like the 3rd time or something in his whole life, he was so excited. But then he was ordered to stay and keep charge of the cadets at the armory where we were to sleep. Why? Because the guy who was supposed to be in charge, a guy who had done great service decided... oh, what do you know, marijuana was more important than tending to their responsibilities and allowing the RSM to see his long lost father. I've never seen a RSM so teary eyed and furious at the same time before.
F**k marijuana, it's no better than other drugs.
No one gets left behind she'd say, yea... right...
You don't have to believe me or convert or anything, in fact I find it highly likely you wouldn't. It's just my two cents.
Drugs suck.
You're putting blame on the wrong thing here. Marijuana is not addictive. Therefore the fault lies entirely on the sergeant's soldiers. It's like blaming a car for a collision.
I 120% disagree, not necessarily about addiction, it's the fact it is even in the equation.
Drugs are bad m'kay?
M'kay...
P.S
Medical is another story at least, I'm not even talking about medical uses.
I really don't understand straight-edge people who are extremely proud about it. Okay... you will die without ever experiencing life to nearly its full potential, congratulations. So many doors will be closed to you forever. Ignorance is bliss I guess. Having a huge moral high-horse is pointless. Eh make the choices you want idc.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 12, 2012, 10:47:08 PM
I'm not against free weed however I've yet to meet a weeder that wasn't also an idiot or outright angry at the world.
Just come out and say you like to get high. It's no different than alcohol. If I had to choose I would go with the bumbling stoner vs drunk almost any day. Weeds a great thing after all; you can smell dopes from several yards away. Makes not hiring them that much more easier. :)
Have you met real people? Are you saying it's something to be ashamed of? Um... drug tests? People don't get hired based on how they smell. What is happening?
....................................................
Straight edge... It doesn't make sense.
They say life's about having as many different experiences possible in the time you have, I don't see why people would limit themselves or live their lives ruled by other peoples experiences.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM85TNMnUkA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM85TNMnUkA#)
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 12:21:12 AM
I 120% disagree, not necessarily about addiction, it's the fact it is even in the equation.
Drugs are bad m'kay?
M'kay...
P.S
Medical is another story at least, I'm not even talking about medical uses.
Anything can be addictive if you consume enough of it.
Hell, I'm addicted to shrimp cocktail.
I'm addicted to Ginger Beer.
Im loving this. Polar opposites talkin it out...mheres my take...
I did some drugs when i was younger, stopped when i was younger...
And don't give a crap about em, lol... But don't hate em. Its life. Don't miss em, crave em... Zero temptation.
Some people can't do that I guess.
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 01:04:03 AM
I'm addicted to Ginger Beer.
Good stuff!
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 01:07:05 AM
Im loving this. Polar opposites talkin it out...mheres my take...
I did some drugs when i was younger, stopped when i was younger...
And don't give a crap about em, lol... But don't hate em. Its life. Don't miss em, crave em... Zero temptation.
Some people can't do that I guess.
This man gets it!
I think it's a matter of perspective, to you drugs opens oors, to me my "high-moral horse" opens doors and drugs close them, for my Dad it almost closed permenantly. Besides, I know many other ways to have adventure in which I ask myself afterwards "Do. I. Have. All. My. Body. Parts?" and ridiculous fun in which I laugh my ass off. I've already got to do once in a lifetime things. My friends know it.
I don't like being told that just because I'm against it means I'm not living. What matters in anyone's life is that they are happy, I'm happy with what I got.
Have you ever been white water rafting? The Greyhound Bus Eater is a rapid that can consume a Grey hound bus, it made it through. There was another rapid before that actually knocked me out and I was swimming in rapids for a while. Drugs ain't got shit.
Have you ever been in a jet propped boat on rapids? Drugs defiantely doesn't have shit on that.
Have you ever rode a bike off a dock at high speed into a lake?
I love laughing my ass of on game nights.
Dad taught me a trick. That it is good to be sober, that way you can laugh your ass of at the drunks, this is personally proven.
Have you ever put salt on a wound?
Have you ever told condom jokes to a guy in a suit looking all uptight?
Have you ever hit the centre of the dance floor?
Have you ever whacked a speaker into pieces with a base-ball bat?
Have you ever set off mother flippin' explosives?
Have you got stuck in the thick mud with an ATV?
Have you ever fallen out of a tree and landed into a big puddle with mud and leaves and (for shits and giggles) danced in the street all wet while covered in mud and leaves from top to bottom.
Drugs ain't got shit on this guy.
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 01:02:09 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 12:21:12 AM
I 120% disagree, not necessarily about addiction, it's the fact it is even in the equation.
Drugs are bad m'kay?
M'kay...
P.S
Medical is another story at least, I'm not even talking about medical uses.
Anything can be addictive if you consume enough of it.
Captain obvious to the rescue. We're talking about marijuana, not anything.
WAIT A MINUTE! YOU JUST SAID
ANYTHING IS ADDICTIVE!
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 01:47:44 AM
I think it's a matter of perspective, to you drugs opens oors, to me my "high-moral horse" opens doors and drugs close them, for my Dad it almost closed permenantly. Besides, I know many other ways to have adventure in which I ask myself afterwards "Do. I. Have. All. My. Body. Parts?" and ridiculous fun in which I laugh my ass off. I've already got to do once in a lifetime things. My friends know it.
I don't like being told that just because I'm against it means I'm not living. What matters in anyone's life is that they are happy, I'm happy with what I got.
Have you ever been white water rafting? The Greyhound Bus Eater is a rapid that can consume a Grey hound bus, it made it through. There was another rapid before that actually knocked me out and I was swimming in rapids for a while. Drugs ain't got shit.
Have you ever been in a jet propped boat on rapids? Drugs defiantely doesn't have shit on that.
Have you ever rode a bike off a dock at high speed into a lake?
I love laughing my ass of on game nights.
Dad taught me a trick. That it is good to be sober, that way you can laugh your ass of at the drunks, this is personally proven.
Have you ever put salt on a wound?
Have you ever told condom jokes to a guy in a suit looking all uptight?
Have you ever hit the centre of the dance floor?
Have you ever whacked a speaker into pieces with a base-ball bat?
Have you ever set off mother flippin' explosives?
Have you got stuck in the thick mud with an ATV?
Have you ever fallen out of a tree and landed into a big puddle with mud and leaves and (for shits and giggles) danced in the street all wet while covered in mud and leaves from top to bottom.
Drugs ain't got shit on this guy.
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 01:02:09 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 12:21:12 AM
I 120% disagree, not necessarily about addiction, it's the fact it is even in the equation.
Drugs are bad m'kay?
M'kay...
P.S
Medical is another story at least, I'm not even talking about medical uses.
Anything can be addictive if you consume enough of it.
Captain obvious to the rescue. We're talking about marijuana, not anything.
For what I am reading, all crazy rich is saying is he is happy with the drugs his body produces.. Adrenaline and endorphins..
Nothing wrong with that.
But if ur profile is correct and you are only 21, buddy, you haven't lived as much as you think.. Im ten years older than you and I have barely scratched the surface of life, especially with a wife and son who make life fun all the time! But I do agree that ya dont need drugs to achieve this end. ;)
Its definitely not fair to say that because u don't like drugs you aren't living, i agree with you on that, but from what i read, a small snippet of ur post said it almost destroyed ur dad? If i read that correctly, there is a huge probability that u are more against it because of personal bias, which again is pretty normal... But does not make your position more valid.
The bottom line is don't explain your position to anyone, because for you, the choices you make are correct... and to others they are not.. That is what a debate about something like drugs will get you.
So people don't think you are living? Big deal. So crazy rich thinks hes right and you guys aren't.. Who cares?
Live life my friends, however you wish as long as its done without getting in other's faces.
:)
And yes, if my son does drugs, i would be disappointed, but if i do my job as a strong parent he won't need them to have fun in the first place. Time will tell.. In the meantime.. Spare yourselves the posts and just enjoy what you enjoy. ;)
Dude, I know I have lots of life ahead of me, I'd be f**kin' dissapointed if the fun ended within my lifetime. I wanna see the world... and jump off a plane.... maybe skinny dip in an ice fishing hole.
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 02:04:24 AM
Dude, I know I have lots of ife ahea of me, I'd be f**kin' dissapointed if the fun ended within my lifetime. I wanna see the world... and jump off a plane.... maybe skinny dip in an ice fishing hole.
All pretty cool things.. Just don't put down people who you think have wasteful or silly activities, otherwise you are no better than those you are arguing with.
I certainly don't think what you enjoy is fun, not by a long shot, as i don't particularly find adrenaline or endorphins enjoyable... But that is just me. Truth be told, you are debating with these guys because you don't need their drugs, and here I am stating unequivocally that I don't even care for the ones you actively produce and seek. Its good for u, and that is cool. I don't need to think what you like is good, and vice versa.
The point is, you are one and the same with all of us, you just pick a different drug...
The only drug i need is caffeine, and that is satiated with a soda. :)
... I don't even care about the adrenaline and the whatevers you just said, I just like fun and humour that doesn't involve doing drugs. Not all of those things I mentioned I planned, it just happened and I went with the flow, some of them I won't do again but I can look back at it and laugh.
But whatever, people are different. I'll roll how I roll, what matters is I'm happy with it. My doors are wide open, I just sit on the front porch with a shotty.
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 02:38:01 AM
... I don't even care about the adrenaline and the whatevers you just said, I just like fun and humour that doesn't involve doing drugs. Not all of those things I mentioned I planned, it just happened and I went with the flow, some of them I won't do again but I can look back at it and laugh.
But whatever, people are different. I'll roll how I roll, what matters is I'm happy with it. My doors are wide open, I just sit on the front porch with a shotty.
I can dig it.. And as a guy with a masters degree in biology, which encompasses adrenaline and "whatever's i just said" I can say pretty safely, you do care about those neurotransmitters you just mentioned, you just don't know you are seeking them. Its a common symptom of an addictive personality, unless you are not like every other human alive.. Ever.
But as long as you understand the point, all is well.
I'm addicted to apples. An apple a day keeps the doctor away.
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 02:44:21 AM
I'm addicted to apples. An apple a day keeps the doctor away.
Lolol, that's better! Apples good!
Am I the only one who didn't miss this?
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 12:14:55 AM
Marijuana is not addictive.
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 01:02:09 AM
Anything can be addictive if you consume enough of it.
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 02:41:54 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 02:38:01 AM
... I don't even care about the adrenaline and the whatevers you just said, I just like fun and humour that doesn't involve doing drugs. Not all of those things I mentioned I planned, it just happened and I went with the flow, some of them I won't do again but I can look back at it and laugh.
But whatever, people are different. I'll roll how I roll, what matters is I'm happy with it. My doors are wide open, I just sit on the front porch with a shotty.
I can dig it.. And as a guy with a masters degree in biology, which encompasses adrenaline and "whatever's i just said" I can say pretty safely, you do care about those neurotransmitters you just mentioned, you just don't know you are seeking them. Its a common symptom of an addictive personality, unless you are not like every other human alive.. Ever.
But as long as you understand the point, all is well.
Is an addictive personality limited to anything? Cause I know I it's if they come into contact with stuff like games, drink, drugs etc they can become obsessed, or is it more of a mental state of mind that "they believe, there for they are" type thing?
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 02:50:57 AM
Am I the only one who didn't miss this?
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 12:14:55 AM
Marijuana is not addictive.
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 01:02:09 AM
Anything can be addictive if you consume enough of it.
First quote is a comparative statement, second one is to illustrate the ludicrousness of your 'drugs are bad, mkay'. What kind of drugs? All drugs? Yeah, if you consume enough of them, even caffeine is bad. But it's not bad in manageable doses, like cocaine and heroine are.
Whatever floats your boat.
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 02:50:57 AM
Am I the only one who didn't miss this?
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 12:14:55 AM
Marijuana is not addictive.
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 01:02:09 AM
Anything can be addictive if you consume enough of it.
No, we didnt, at least i didnt miss it. I just don't care enough to call anyone out. Its a waste of time. It won't make you any more right in the end, but it will force others to perceive your position as so weak that you have to poke holes in others words to feel vindicated... I used to be on the debate team in college, so if you need pointers, lemme know ;)
Your only 21, you have much to learn about fair debate Padawan.
Oddly enough i was just about to say that BANE was making two statements lol.. But he already covered that.
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 02:58:27 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 02:50:57 AM
Am I the only one who didn't miss this?
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 12:14:55 AM
Marijuana is not addictive.
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 01:02:09 AM
Anything can be addictive if you consume enough of it.
No, we didnt, at least i didnt miss it. I just don't care enough to call anyone out. Its a waste of time. It won't make you any more right in the end, but it will force others to perceive your position as so weak that you have to poke holes in others words to feel vindicated... I used to be on the debate team in college, so if you need pointers, lemme know ;)
Your only 21, you have much to learn about fair debate Padawan.
Oddly enough i was just about to say that BANE was making two statements lol.. But he already covered that.
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Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 03:02:35 AM
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 02:58:27 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 02:50:57 AM
Am I the only one who didn't miss this?
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 12:14:55 AM
Marijuana is not addictive.
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 01:02:09 AM
Anything can be addictive if you consume enough of it.
No, we didnt, at least i didnt miss it. I just don't care enough to call anyone out. Its a waste of time. It won't make you any more right in the end, but it will force others to perceive your position as so weak that you have to poke holes in others words to feel vindicated... I used to be on the debate team in college, so if you need pointers, lemme know ;)
Your only 21, you have much to learn about fair debate Padawan.
Oddly enough i was just about to say that BANE was making two statements lol.. But he already covered that.
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/48740_o.gif
And Into the buddy list LIE goes! ;)
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:04:40 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 03:02:35 AM
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 02:58:27 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 02:50:57 AM
Am I the only one who didn't miss this?
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 12:14:55 AM
Marijuana is not addictive.
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 01:02:09 AM
Anything can be addictive if you consume enough of it.
No, we didnt, at least i didnt miss it. I just don't care enough to call anyone out. Its a waste of time. It won't make you any more right in the end, but it will force others to perceive your position as so weak that you have to poke holes in others words to feel vindicated... I used to be on the debate team in college, so if you need pointers, lemme know ;)
Your only 21, you have much to learn about fair debate Padawan.
Oddly enough i was just about to say that BANE was making two statements lol.. But he already covered that.
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/48740_o.gif
And Into the buddy list LIE goes! ;)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m8c3pkC6F41rcbke6o1_500.png&hash=4a2a22524cc8a78364ad7a9b0cd9cfce1582d97a)
Marijuana is a value changer. I think some people fear this. People who haven't done it at least 2 times don't understand reality as well as someone who has, since they have nothing to draw a comparison from.
There's a universe inside each one of us. You don't have to be an astronaut to be among the stars, you just need to be a psychonaut. The fantastical and very normal experiences of hugging a friend, singing or dancing with friends, or just having a deep introspective think are more humbling and wholesome to me and beneficial to the wellbeing of my psyche than any sky diving trip or crazy stunt. You can call me a druggie or whatever you want, but in the end I've seen, felt, and experienced things far greater in meaning than anything, say a professional skydiver has experienced by doing just skydiving. There's a bridge waiting to be crossed. A bridge that will lead you to the understanding of life, the appreciation of life, and the acceptance of life as it ebbs and flows through each one of us. Up to you if you want to embrace it. All I gotta say.
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 03:19:07 AM
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:04:40 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 03:02:35 AM
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 02:58:27 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 02:50:57 AM
Am I the only one who didn't miss this?
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 12:14:55 AM
Marijuana is not addictive.
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 01:02:09 AM
Anything can be addictive if you consume enough of it.
No, we didnt, at least i didnt miss it. I just don't care enough to call anyone out. Its a waste of time. It won't make you any more right in the end, but it will force others to perceive your position as so weak that you have to poke holes in others words to feel vindicated... I used to be on the debate team in college, so if you need pointers, lemme know ;)
Your only 21, you have much to learn about fair debate Padawan.
Oddly enough i was just about to say that BANE was making two statements lol.. But he already covered that.
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/48740_o.gif
And Into the buddy list LIE goes! ;)
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8c3pkC6F41rcbke6o1_500.png
Well.. That aint my bag but, ur cool so...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.tinypic.com%2F2qsqhyw.jpg&hash=e4e2057cbca80838369e66237cffe79acfac25d5)
Roflmao!
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 02:58:27 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 02:50:57 AM
Am I the only one who didn't miss this?
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 12:14:55 AM
Marijuana is not addictive.
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 01:02:09 AM
Anything can be addictive if you consume enough of it.
No, we didnt, at least i didnt miss it. I just don't care enough to call anyone out. Its a waste of time. It won't make you any more right in the end, but it will force others to perceive your position as so weak that you have to poke holes in others words to feel vindicated... I used to be on the debate team in college, so if you need pointers, lemme know ;)
Your only 21, you have much to learn about fair debate Padawan.
Oddly enough i was just about to say that BANE was making two statements lol.. But he already covered that.
Wha? I don't give a shit if I'm right or wrong in a stupid internet debate at this point. I saw what I
thought I saw okay?
I do however really,
really don't like being called out as weak. That is why I'm out of here.
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 03:24:21 AM
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 02:58:27 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 13, 2012, 02:50:57 AM
Am I the only one who didn't miss this?
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 12:14:55 AM
Marijuana is not addictive.
Quote from: BANE on Dec 13, 2012, 01:02:09 AM
Anything can be addictive if you consume enough of it.
No, we didnt, at least i didnt miss it. I just don't care enough to call anyone out. Its a waste of time. It won't make you any more right in the end, but it will force others to perceive your position as so weak that you have to poke holes in others words to feel vindicated... I used to be on the debate team in college, so if you need pointers, lemme know ;)
Your only 21, you have much to learn about fair debate Padawan.
Oddly enough i was just about to say that BANE was making two statements lol.. But he already covered that.
Wha? I don't give a shit if I'm right or wrong in a stupid internet debate at this point. I saw what I thought I saw okay?
I do however really, really don't like being called out as weak. That is why I'm out of here.
Once again...
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.tinypic.com%2F2qsqhyw.jpg&hash=e4e2057cbca80838369e66237cffe79acfac25d5)
Don't get upset because i calmly explained my position. Its an AVP forum and the topic is drugs... Do you really think this is the place to have a serious down and dirty debate? Trust me, I wasnt even TRYING to make a case.. That can come later if need be :)
I have to say though, storming off saying " I don't even care about this stupid Internet debate" sort of undermines any chance you have of being taken seriously, at least on this particular topic.
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 12, 2012, 11:19:13 PM
It'd be nice, except it's so widely excepted it'd unfortunately do more harm than good. You can only pass laws that restrict but not ban. Banning would cause outright chaos.
Banning drugs isn't doing any good either and it does more harm than anything else. If people are serious about ending the war on drugs and stopping bloodshed in places like Mexico, then drug legalisation
has to happen. Heck, the Mexican government was considering it until the cartels stopped it.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:29:34 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 12, 2012, 11:19:13 PM
It'd be nice, except it's so widely excepted it'd unfortunately do more harm than good. You can only pass laws that restrict but not ban. Banning would cause outright chaos.
Banning drugs isn't doing any good either and it does more harm than anything else. If people are serious about ending the war on drugs and stopping bloodshed in places like Mexico, then drug legalisation has to happen. Heck, the Mexican government was considering it until the cartels stopped it.
Don't waste your breath Doom, he said himself.. "He's outta here!" Lol
If there's one thing we all know its.. Do NOT mess with the guy with a my little pony sig! You just don't do it!
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:31:46 AM
If there's one thing we all know its.. Do NOT mess with the guy with a my little pony sig! You just don't do it!
C'mon, you didn't have to go there. Just let it be.
uh oh
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:31:46 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:29:34 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 12, 2012, 11:19:13 PM
It'd be nice, except it's so widely excepted it'd unfortunately do more harm than good. You can only pass laws that restrict but not ban. Banning would cause outright chaos.
Banning drugs isn't doing any good either and it does more harm than anything else. If people are serious about ending the war on drugs and stopping bloodshed in places like Mexico, then drug legalisation has to happen. Heck, the Mexican government was considering it until the cartels stopped it.
Don't waste your breath Doom, he said himself.. "He's outta here!" Lol
If there's one thing we all know its.. Do NOT mess with the guy with a my little pony sig! You just don't do it!
Calm down.
Quote from: coolbreeze on Dec 13, 2012, 03:36:44 AM
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:31:46 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:29:34 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 12, 2012, 11:19:13 PM
It'd be nice, except it's so widely excepted it'd unfortunately do more harm than good. You can only pass laws that restrict but not ban. Banning would cause outright chaos.
Banning drugs isn't doing any good either and it does more harm than anything else. If people are serious about ending the war on drugs and stopping bloodshed in places like Mexico, then drug legalisation has to happen. Heck, the Mexican government was considering it until the cartels stopped it.
Don't waste your breath Doom, he said himself.. "He's outta here!" Lol
If there's one thing we all know its.. Do NOT mess with the guy with a my little pony sig! You just don't do it!
C'mon, you didn't have to go there. Just let it be.
Don't worry, he's a big boy, he can handle it... Or maybe not since he left...
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:29:34 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 12, 2012, 11:19:13 PM
It'd be nice, except it's so widely excepted it'd unfortunately do more harm than good. You can only pass laws that restrict but not ban. Banning would cause outright chaos.
Banning drugs isn't doing any good either and it does more harm than anything else. If people are serious about ending the war on drugs and stopping bloodshed in places like Mexico, then drug legalisation has to happen. Heck, the Mexican government was considering it until the cartels stopped it.
And as we all know the Cartel makes more money from shipping illegal goods than paying taxes.
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:25:47 AM
Don't get upset because i calmly explained my position. Its an AVP forum and the topic is drugs... Do you really think this is the place to have a serious down and dirty debate? Trust me, I wasnt even TRYING to make a case.. That can come later if need be :)
I have to say though, storming off saying " I don't even care about this stupid Internet debate" sort of undermines any chance you have of being taken seriously, at least on this particular topic.
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:31:46 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:29:34 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 12, 2012, 11:19:13 PM
It'd be nice, except it's so widely excepted it'd unfortunately do more harm than good. You can only pass laws that restrict but not ban. Banning would cause outright chaos.
Banning drugs isn't doing any good either and it does more harm than anything else. If people are serious about ending the war on drugs and stopping bloodshed in places like Mexico, then drug legalisation has to happen. Heck, the Mexican government was considering it until the cartels stopped it.
Don't waste your breath Doom, he said himself.. "He's outta here!" Lol
If there's one thing we all know its.. Do NOT mess with the guy with a my little pony sig! You just don't do it!
I used the "wanting to have sex with this moment" too soon I'm proposing to it, it needs to know just how much I love it. :laugh:
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:38:36 AM
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:31:46 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:29:34 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 12, 2012, 11:19:13 PM
It'd be nice, except it's so widely excepted it'd unfortunately do more harm than good. You can only pass laws that restrict but not ban. Banning would cause outright chaos.
Banning drugs isn't doing any good either and it does more harm than anything else. If people are serious about ending the war on drugs and stopping bloodshed in places like Mexico, then drug legalisation has to happen. Heck, the Mexican government was considering it until the cartels stopped it.
Don't waste your breath Doom, he said himself.. "He's outta here!" Lol
If there's one thing we all know its.. Do NOT mess with the guy with a my little pony sig! You just don't do it!
Calm down.
Im as calm as it gets. Lol. There aren't any exclamations in my post. :)
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:39:29 AM
Don't worry, he's a big boy, he can handle it... Or maybe not since he left...
Seriously? Let it go.
You both said your piece, Rich left, end of story.
I make no apologies for having fun at the expense of someone who blew up on us, not the other way around. I would suggest policing someone else perhaps? I find it humorous. Im sitting here watching tv on the couch with my wife and son at my side and they are looking at me like.. What are you doing, and im literally just like.. You should see how serious these guys take posts written by strangers! Lol
Ill be nice for the sake of the nice folks.
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:40:43 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:38:36 AM
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:31:46 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:29:34 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 12, 2012, 11:19:13 PM
It'd be nice, except it's so widely excepted it'd unfortunately do more harm than good. You can only pass laws that restrict but not ban. Banning would cause outright chaos.
Banning drugs isn't doing any good either and it does more harm than anything else. If people are serious about ending the war on drugs and stopping bloodshed in places like Mexico, then drug legalisation has to happen. Heck, the Mexican government was considering it until the cartels stopped it.
Don't waste your breath Doom, he said himself.. "He's outta here!" Lol
If there's one thing we all know its.. Do NOT mess with the guy with a my little pony sig! You just don't do it!
Calm down.
Im as calm as it gets. Lol. There aren't any exclamations in my post. :)
Might want to check the bolded parts.
Honesty joking aside it's becoming impossible to debate with Rich lately he flies off the handles to easily, you can't say anything to him without him reading deeply into it for an insult. That's all I'm saying and I think that's what Screenwriters saying to.
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:42:09 AM
I make no apologies for having fun at the expense of so,done who blew up in us, not the other way around.
Huh?
Quote from: coolbreeze on Dec 13, 2012, 03:44:17 AM
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:42:09 AM
I make no apologies for having fun at the expense of so,done who blew up in us, not the other way around.
Huh?
Lolol.. Typo.. Fixed it ;)
Looooooooooool.
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 03:44:07 AM
Honesty joking aside it's becoming impossible to debate with Rich lately he flies off the handles to easily, you can't say anything to him without him reading deeply into it for an insult. That's all I'm saying and I think that's what Screenwriters saying to.
That doesn't allow for calling someone out on their choice of signature if you think it looks silly. Rich can debate however the heck he wants, whether it works for us or otherwise.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:43:16 AM
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:40:43 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:38:36 AM
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:31:46 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:29:34 AM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 12, 2012, 11:19:13 PM
It'd be nice, except it's so widely excepted it'd unfortunately do more harm than good. You can only pass laws that restrict but not ban. Banning would cause outright chaos.
Banning drugs isn't doing any good either and it does more harm than anything else. If people are serious about ending the war on drugs and stopping bloodshed in places like Mexico, then drug legalisation has to happen. Heck, the Mexican government was considering it until the cartels stopped it.
Don't waste your breath Doom, he said himself.. "He's outta here!" Lol
If there's one thing we all know its.. Do NOT mess with the guy with a my little pony sig! You just don't do it!
Calm down.
Im as calm as it gets. Lol. There aren't any exclamations in my post. :)
Might want to check the bolded parts.
Oh jeeze, my mistake... At this point its just pedantry. I meant I didn't exclaim where it counted.
I'm drunk and high while posting:
I used to a be weed smoker but in recent years, it's been triggering my mania cuz I'm bipola, making me go uber paranoid and need cigarettes and anti psychotic meds. As a bipolar person I love to self medicate so I switched drugs to cocaine, someting I grew up believing I would never do but here I am. I f**king wish I could switch back to sweet mary j, I occasionaly take a toke at a party at the end of the night. I feel like lately since I'm sane again, I'm still taking a minute preventative daily dose of ant psychotics and it's allowing me to take drug chances that could make me go loopy again. Anyway I don't share this side of me and. Hi I'm Beast Mode and I''m an addict. *this thread: hi Beast Mode!*
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:47:13 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 03:44:07 AM
Honesty joking aside it's becoming impossible to debate with Rich lately he flies off the handles to easily, you can't say anything to him without him reading deeply into it for an insult. That's all I'm saying and I think that's what Screenwriters saying to.
That doesn't allow for calling someone out on their choice of signature if you think it looks silly. Rich can debate however the heck he wants, whether it works for us or otherwise.
Well i want to apologize to rich. Its clear he behaves the way he does because he has people coddling him. There is no denying that.
Quote from: Beast Mode on Dec 13, 2012, 03:48:56 AM
I'm drunk and high while posting:
I used to a be weed smoker but in recent years, it's been triggering my mania cuz I'm bipola, making me go uber paranoid and need cigarettes and anti psychotic meds. As a bipolar person I love to self medicate so I switched drugs to cocaine, someting I grew up believing I would never do but here I am. I f**king wish I could switch back to sweet mary j, I occasionaly take a toke at a party at the end of the night. I feel like lately since I'm sane again, I'm still taking a minute preventative daily dose of ant psychotics and it's allowing me to take drug chances that could make me go loopy again. Anyway I don't share this side of me and. Hi I'm Beast Mode and I''m an addict. *this thread: hi Beast Mode!*
Thanks for sharing. No one will judge you :)
Its a signature on an Internet forum, certainly not anything of even remote pertinence in the long run, but apparently irony is wasted on some of us.. When someone yells at me and en says im outta here like a child, i am going to find a certain bit of humor in the little things like that.
I understand that Doom has a job to do, but there are relevant issues and then there's a joke about a signature. Even more sardonic is that if people would read what I wrote leading up to that they would see i was trying to be as nice as possible, just to be nice... But no.. Mention a pony and bam... Ur just a bad bad man, lololol..... Im smiling at, mind you.. ;)
Man im so stressed out i could use some weed!
Ok.. Over it. :) back to lighthearted conversation!
Nobody is coddling him. The fact is, he stated he was out of this thread and you decided to attempt to antagonize him anyway. You going after his set shows more about you than it does about him.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:47:13 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 03:44:07 AM
Honesty joking aside it's becoming impossible to debate with Rich lately he flies off the handles to easily, you can't say anything to him without him reading deeply into it for an insult. That's all I'm saying and I think that's what Screenwriters saying to.
That doesn't allow for calling someone out on their choice of signature if you think it looks silly. Rich can debate however the heck he wants, whether it works for us or otherwise.
He shows no respect to person his debating with if they have different views or when you try to question his reasoning's which he doesn't he explain, he simply expects you to conform to his way of thinking because his cosmically right?
The person your defending;
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=16931.msg1553079#msg1553079 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=16931.msg1553079#msg1553079)
At one point he felt the need to tell me to suck his balls...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgifsoup.com%2Fwebroot%2Fanimatedgifs3%2F1500275_o.gif&hash=ed1622058c1501f5e304c40c11d253e05c3feb64)
Everybody chill and just smoke some weed kay.
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 03:56:54 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:47:13 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 03:44:07 AM
Honesty joking aside it's becoming impossible to debate with Rich lately he flies off the handles to easily, you can't say anything to him without him reading deeply into it for an insult. That's all I'm saying and I think that's what Screenwriters saying to.
That doesn't allow for calling someone out on their choice of signature if you think it looks silly. Rich can debate however the heck he wants, whether it works for us or otherwise.
He shows no respect to person his debating with if they have different views or when you try to question his reasoning's which he doesn't he explain, he simply expects you to conform to his way of thinking because his cosmically right?
The person your defending;
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=16931.msg1553079#msg1553079 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=16931.msg1553079#msg1553079)
At one point he felt the need to tell me to suck his balls...
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1500275_o.gif
I rest my case. Literally, these guys are as sensitive as he is.
Quote from: Nightlord on Dec 13, 2012, 03:57:02 AM
Everybody chill and just smoke some weed kay.
Ummmm, yeah. :laugh:
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:58:11 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 03:56:54 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:47:13 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 03:44:07 AM
Honesty joking aside it's becoming impossible to debate with Rich lately he flies off the handles to easily, you can't say anything to him without him reading deeply into it for an insult. That's all I'm saying and I think that's what Screenwriters saying to.
That doesn't allow for calling someone out on their choice of signature if you think it looks silly. Rich can debate however the heck he wants, whether it works for us or otherwise.
He shows no respect to person his debating with if they have different views or when you try to question his reasoning's which he doesn't he explain, he simply expects you to conform to his way of thinking because his cosmically right?
The person your defending;
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=16931.msg1553079#msg1553079 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=16931.msg1553079#msg1553079)
At one point he felt the need to tell me to suck his balls...
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1500275_o.gif
I rest my case. Literally, these guys are as sensitive as he is.
Uh oh, watch out, we got a badass over here!
What I don't understand is why everyone is talking about chilling etc.. Roflmao. Dude im lying on my couch watching I Love Lucy.. If i were any calmer I'd be dead, lolz.
Back to the main topic... My thoughts on drugs..
People who don't do the, should relax.. Keep to themselves and not judge.
People who do them need to relax, keep to themselves and don't judge. ;)
Quote from: Prime113 on Dec 13, 2012, 03:58:36 AM
Uh oh, watch out, we got a badass over here!
f**king rookies...
okay everybody, leave Crazy Rich alone.
Well we would if people would stop posthumously coming to his aid, haha.
I blame the internets... It causes so much controversies!
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 04:04:43 AM
Well we would if people would stop posthumously coming to his aid, haha.
I blame the internets... I causes so much controversies!
Dude, you attacked him after he left. What does that say about you?
Quote from: Prime113 on Dec 13, 2012, 04:06:27 AM
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 04:04:43 AM
Well we would if people would stop posthumously coming to his aid, haha.
I blame the internets... I causes so much controversies!
Dude, you attacked him after he left. What does that say about you?
That i don't consider a joke about a silly signature to be even remotely relevant, and that quite frankly anyone who is going to judge me on the merits of one joke they don't understand is not really of much relevance to myself.
If you think im a bad guy, i can't change that, nor would i want to, unlike this Rick fellow who sought to tell everyone else they were wrong..
You, are not, in my view wrong.. You don't like what I did, and im okay with that. Do I need you to approve of my joke? No. Do I want your approval? Well, logically, for e sake of moving on, sure haha. But that is life, friends. :)
BOOBS!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws)
Now just so i am clear,, this Rick guy is a 21 year old man, correct? Is he somehow above ridicule when forcing his position down our throats? I just want to make sure i wasn't bullying a defenseless person wi my very personally humorous joke.
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 03:56:54 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:47:13 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 03:44:07 AM
Honesty joking aside it's becoming impossible to debate with Rich lately he flies off the handles to easily, you can't say anything to him without him reading deeply into it for an insult. That's all I'm saying and I think that's what Screenwriters saying to.
That doesn't allow for calling someone out on their choice of signature if you think it looks silly. Rich can debate however the heck he wants, whether it works for us or otherwise.
He shows no respect to person his debating with if they have different views or when you try to question his reasoning's which he doesn't he explain, he simply expects you to conform to his way of thinking because his cosmically right?
The person your defending;
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=16931.msg1553079#msg1553079 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=16931.msg1553079#msg1553079)
At one point he felt the need to tell me to suck his balls...
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1500275_o.gif
Then ignore him completely. It is possible via the "Ignore User" link. Problem solved.
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 04:13:58 AM
BOOBS!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws)
I miss them, why did I shoot her :'(
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 04:15:14 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 03:56:54 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 13, 2012, 03:47:13 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 03:44:07 AM
Honesty joking aside it's becoming impossible to debate with Rich lately he flies off the handles to easily, you can't say anything to him without him reading deeply into it for an insult. That's all I'm saying and I think that's what Screenwriters saying to.
That doesn't allow for calling someone out on their choice of signature if you think it looks silly. Rich can debate however the heck he wants, whether it works for us or otherwise.
He shows no respect to person his debating with if they have different views or when you try to question his reasoning's which he doesn't he explain, he simply expects you to conform to his way of thinking because his cosmically right?
The person your defending;
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=16931.msg1553079#msg1553079 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=16931.msg1553079#msg1553079)
At one point he felt the need to tell me to suck his balls...
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1500275_o.gif
Then ignore him completely. It is possible via the "Ignore User" link. Problem solved.
Excellent suggestion, why didn't you suggest that before chastising me for standing up for myself and others, sport?
As yoda would say, blocked he is.
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 04:14:41 AM
Now just so i am clear,, this Rick guy is a 21 year old man, correct? Is he somehow above ridicule when forcing his position down our throats? I just want to make sure i wasn't bullying a defenseless person wi my very personally humorous joke.
You got a nasty hard-on for Rich. Not healthy pal.. :-\
Cool, i can ignore coolbreeze too! ;)
Very well then.. Though my circle of friends doth shrink.. I am at peace knowing.. Tis only a forum..
Guys, back on topic. Now.
Quote from: Nightlord on Dec 13, 2012, 04:16:21 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 04:13:58 AM
BOOBS!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws)
I miss them, why did I shoot her :'(
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.journaldugeek.com%2Ffiles%2F2012%2F11%2Fshocked-batman-reaction-meme.jpg&hash=8d10b3c9f28d27c762cc2fc2f67631bcf1e5a65f)
Funny story had a mate who hadn't vs'd Neto yet so he didn't have the skull lantern he was using a arrow to get a better shot of the BOOBS, fired by mistake and that's how we learned about the Dark Sun Gwyndolin, cause why would you kill her?! It hurt me to kill the weak gray spider girl but you know Fire Keeper Soul's a Fire Keeper Soul. 8)
I am confused lie.. How does this tie into drugs? Ah, wait.. Boobs are addicting.. Nvm I answered my own question.
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 04:25:01 AM
Quote from: Nightlord on Dec 13, 2012, 04:16:21 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 04:13:58 AM
BOOBS!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws)
I miss them, why did I shoot her :'(
http://www.journaldugeek.com/files/2012/11/shocked-batman-reaction-meme.jpg
Funny story had a mate who hadn't vs'd Neto yet so he didn't have the skull lantern he was using a arrow to get a better shot of the BOOBS, fired by mistake and that's how we learned about the Dark Sun Gwyndolin, cause why would you kill her?! It hurt me to kill the weak gray spider girl but you know Fire Keeper Soul's a Fire Keeper Soul. 8)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4oHJ7.jpg&hash=5f4744d525cbcf491e242a84c2a3b7aad2906bdb)
Y-y-y-you monster, I bet you're a darkwraith too.
Lie knows pretty well it was hardly a debate in that hread, he was just looking to antagonize me, naturally I got angry with the soul person in the world I don't trust, who I once called friend mind you. Lie sure does like to forget all the good and peaceful debates I've had with people...
At one point SiL entered in that thread at the time of the attack because I said something that apparently made no sense, I treated him with much respect.
He is totally wrong about that conforming thing too. Sharp Sticks, I worship that guy like a god and we have some opinions that are like day and night, some of them I even find worthy.
Lie is just being an antagonist.
And screenwriter, I truely thought better of you, I wanted to be friends and I had no real quarrel with you but apparently you've been attacking me behind my back. Sure I'm moody but I'm not the guy Lie makes me out to be, he'd just like you to think so, I've done some dumb things in my time but I've done many many more good deeds throughout my time here on the galaxy and my friends can back that up.
Now get back to the topic guys, I've had enough.
And btw, Doom.. You may want to be a little more polite when asking to change back to topic.... I was nice to you because you were nice back, i was rude to the other guy who's name we shall not speak of because he was rude to many of us. Im not concerned with how you view me, but i am concerned with your distorted sense of authority. Point being, you can certainly exact whatever retribution you desire, but it wouldn't make a lick of difference to someone like me precisely because I understand what this forum is.. Its a place for communication and discourse on occasion, and especially humor.... Im certain you have most kids under your thumb because they don't want to be banned, but speaking ones mind is always worth it.
Im a nice guy if you respect me... The nameless disrespected many of us, yourself included... And you defend him. Good for you, but much like he expects conformity to his naive ways, you too expect others to conform to your righteous ways... Give us a reason to and we will.. And luckily you have...
So with that... I will change the subject officially.
QuoteAnd screenwriter, I truely thought better of you, I wanted to be friends and I had no real quarrel with you but apparently you've been attacking me behind my back. Sure I'm moody but I'm not the guy Lie makes me out to be, he'd just like you to think so, I've done some dumb things in my time but I've done many many more good deeds throughout my time here on the galaxy and my friends can back that up.
Son, what you are doing is textbook psychological manipulation. You will not appeal to my empathy by pretending to be a victim. We could have been friends and still can if you listen to reason.. I don't talk behind people's backs, i legitimately expected you to reply.... There is no door to shut, no way to not be in the conversation. But more the point. If you wish to truly state your case grow a thicker skin and have fun, and certainly don't rely on others to make a good name for yourself. Who you are to your other galaxy friends is irrelevant to me. Im the same way with everyone. You act like a child, i will reciprocate the same humor. If you act like a cognizant adult, I will treat you like one, and ironically i treated you like the latter.. Look where it got me.
However, to be nice, I will redact my joke about your signature, but solely because I now know its arbitrarily off limits to make jokes about that which we personally find humorous. So I sincerely apologize for making the comment, but remain steadfast in my right to express humor as i see fit.
Quote from: Nightlord on Dec 13, 2012, 04:34:29 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 04:25:01 AM
Quote from: Nightlord on Dec 13, 2012, 04:16:21 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 04:13:58 AM
BOOBS!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws)
I miss them, why did I shoot her :'(
http://www.journaldugeek.com/files/2012/11/shocked-batman-reaction-meme.jpg
Funny story had a mate who hadn't vs'd Neto yet so he didn't have the skull lantern he was using a arrow to get a better shot of the BOOBS, fired by mistake and that's how we learned about the Dark Sun Gwyndolin, cause why would you kill her?! It hurt me to kill the weak gray spider girl but you know Fire Keeper Soul's a Fire Keeper Soul. 8)
http://i.imgur.com/4oHJ7.jpg
Y-y-y-you monster, I bet you're a darkwraith too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Kxk2OFHyM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Kxk2OFHyM)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cghm.org%2Fwow%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F12%2Fshifty_eyes.gif&hash=b29d8d3c945019faf5bbb12cf46f2c87eaf75e69)
We all do what we need to... It was harder for to attack Priscilla, I almost considered just leaving her world.
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 04:51:51 AM
Quote from: Nightlord on Dec 13, 2012, 04:34:29 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 04:25:01 AM
Quote from: Nightlord on Dec 13, 2012, 04:16:21 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 04:13:58 AM
BOOBS!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws)
I miss them, why did I shoot her :'(
http://www.journaldugeek.com/files/2012/11/shocked-batman-reaction-meme.jpg
Funny story had a mate who hadn't vs'd Neto yet so he didn't have the skull lantern he was using a arrow to get a better shot of the BOOBS, fired by mistake and that's how we learned about the Dark Sun Gwyndolin, cause why would you kill her?! It hurt me to kill the weak gray spider girl but you know Fire Keeper Soul's a Fire Keeper Soul. 8)
http://i.imgur.com/4oHJ7.jpg
Y-y-y-you monster, I bet you're a darkwraith too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Kxk2OFHyM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Kxk2OFHyM)
http://www.cghm.org/wow/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/shifty_eyes.gif
We all do what we need to... It was harder for to attack Priscilla, I almost considered just leaving her world.
You crack me up, friend.
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 04:53:58 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 04:51:51 AM
Quote from: Nightlord on Dec 13, 2012, 04:34:29 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 04:25:01 AM
Quote from: Nightlord on Dec 13, 2012, 04:16:21 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 04:13:58 AM
BOOBS!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws)
I miss them, why did I shoot her :'(
http://www.journaldugeek.com/files/2012/11/shocked-batman-reaction-meme.jpg
Funny story had a mate who hadn't vs'd Neto yet so he didn't have the skull lantern he was using a arrow to get a better shot of the BOOBS, fired by mistake and that's how we learned about the Dark Sun Gwyndolin, cause why would you kill her?! It hurt me to kill the weak gray spider girl but you know Fire Keeper Soul's a Fire Keeper Soul. 8)
http://i.imgur.com/4oHJ7.jpg
Y-y-y-you monster, I bet you're a darkwraith too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Kxk2OFHyM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Kxk2OFHyM)
http://www.cghm.org/wow/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/shifty_eyes.gif
We all do what we need to... It was harder for to attack Priscilla, I almost considered just leaving her world.
You crack me up, friend.
You should get Dark Souls, you've got a PS3 aswell we could help each other and get the platinum easy, Dark Souls is one best games I've played if you power through the endless deaths that is, it's so rewarding and will effect your idealogical of what's important in wining and loses.
You got rid of your PS3 or a WiiU...
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fholymansam.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F07%2Feli2.jpg&hash=1647d1918e15ccefed5fa67213ffac41a0790d84)
Stay on the path. It's not your concern
Yeah your right trophies and achievements are addictive and most of the time when I've got 100% I don't ever pick the game up again, I almost consider it a waste of time when I could be getting 100% in something else.
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 05:00:16 AM
Quote from: screenwriter805 on Dec 13, 2012, 04:53:58 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 04:51:51 AM
Quote from: Nightlord on Dec 13, 2012, 04:34:29 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 04:25:01 AM
Quote from: Nightlord on Dec 13, 2012, 04:16:21 AM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 13, 2012, 04:13:58 AM
BOOBS!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41g7hZxSmk#ws)
I miss them, why did I shoot her :'(
http://www.journaldugeek.com/files/2012/11/shocked-batman-reaction-meme.jpg
Funny story had a mate who hadn't vs'd Neto yet so he didn't have the skull lantern he was using a arrow to get a better shot of the BOOBS, fired by mistake and that's how we learned about the Dark Sun Gwyndolin, cause why would you kill her?! It hurt me to kill the weak gray spider girl but you know Fire Keeper Soul's a Fire Keeper Soul. 8)
http://i.imgur.com/4oHJ7.jpg
Y-y-y-you monster, I bet you're a darkwraith too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Kxk2OFHyM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Kxk2OFHyM)
http://www.cghm.org/wow/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/shifty_eyes.gif
We all do what we need to... It was harder for to attack Priscilla, I almost considered just leaving her world.
You crack me up, friend.
You should get Dark Souls, you've got a PS3 aswell we could help each other and get the platinum easy, Dark Souls is one best games I've played if you power through the endless deaths that is, it's so rewarding and will effect your idealogical of what's important in wining and loses.
You got rid of your PS3 or a WiiU...
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fholymansam.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F07%2Feli2.jpg&hash=1647d1918e15ccefed5fa67213ffac41a0790d84)
Stay on the path. It's not your concern
Yeah your right trophies and achievements are addictive and most of the time when I've got 100% I don't ever pick the game up again, I almost consider it a waste of time when I could be getting 100% in something else.
Only have WiiU now. Its my sons, lol.. The ps3 is a drug in and of itself! I walked away from a,v
V 17 trophy score because it was ruining my gaming experience.
Holy f**king shit, everybody shut up and talk about DRUGS ALREADY.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 13, 2012, 05:36:43 AM
Holy f**king shit, everybody shut up and talk about DRUGS ALREADY.
I got you:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fts4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DH.4540421220141235%26amp%3Bpid%3D15.1&hash=bf2f6788fcbaf7e94b4cff15c4b28087cde6a08e)
That's the only drug in my life right now.....
;D
Where's Effectz? I want him to share another story of him tripping balls whilst on mushrooms.
Quote from: Prime113 on Dec 13, 2012, 05:40:24 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 13, 2012, 05:36:43 AM
Holy f**king shit, everybody shut up and talk about DRUGS ALREADY.
I got you:
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4540421220141235&pid=15.1
That's the only drug in my life right now.....
;D
That's some mean shit..
Quote from: coolbreeze on Dec 13, 2012, 05:45:12 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Dec 13, 2012, 05:40:24 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 13, 2012, 05:36:43 AM
Holy f**king shit, everybody shut up and talk about DRUGS ALREADY.
I got you:
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4540421220141235&pid=15.1
That's the only drug in my life right now.....
;D
That's some mean shit..
Oh hell yeah it is. That will get you fuuuucked up!
Quote from: Prime113 on Dec 13, 2012, 05:45:52 AM
Quote from: coolbreeze on Dec 13, 2012, 05:45:12 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Dec 13, 2012, 05:40:24 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 13, 2012, 05:36:43 AM
Holy f**king shit, everybody shut up and talk about DRUGS ALREADY.
I got you:
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4540421220141235&pid=15.1
That's the only drug in my life right now.....
;D
That's some mean shit..
Oh hell yeah it is. That will get you fuuuucked up!
Damn, opening up your airway and what not.
D... dude... I can breathe ssso f**king well right now. (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.memegenerator.net%2Fimages%2F160x%2F2912142.jpg&hash=daafa28373d5e645109c894edfe3853f574f813b)
I always liken recreational drugs to alcohol. People say drug dealing is a crime. I tell them, "You just walked out of the LCBO"...
LCBO is the liquor store in Ontario.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 13, 2012, 05:49:32 AM
D... dude... I can breathe ssso f**king well right now. http://cdn.memegenerator.net/images/160x/2912142.jpg
That's whats up.
Hey, Bane. I just wanted to say I'm sorry Bane. I got really passionate about my own opinion that I forgot you're allowed an opinion too. I don't really have anything against you, in fact I enjoy your sense of humour. Sorry Bane, I hope you accept.
I know this is 6 pages back, but this is where the thread opened for me;
Quote from: VEF214 on Dec 13, 2012, 12:31:54 AM
I really don't understand straight-edge people who are extremely proud about it. Okay... you will die without ever experiencing life to nearly its full potential, congratulations. So many doors will be closed to you forever. Ignorance is bliss I guess. Having a huge moral high-horse is pointless. Eh make the choices you want idc.
I really, really don't get how comments like this are
any better than people saying "Drugs are bad and for losers and if you do drugs you suck hardcore."
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 12, 2012, 10:47:08 PM
I'm not against free weed however I've yet to meet a weeder that wasn't also an idiot
Almost hate to admit it but every person I knew who smoked heavily was kind of on the dimwitted side. Every single one of them.
Quote from: First Blood on Dec 13, 2012, 05:42:26 AM
Where's Effectz? I want him to share another story of him tripping balls whilst on mushrooms.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-qW_yFkfQuXw%2FT9-Y9FU2SWI%2FAAAAAAAAKY8%2FOIwVAXAEBw8%2Fs1600%2Fsoon-meme01.jpg&hash=8d8331cd37f8eeafddaf731f813d9416903497a1)
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/149747_176246049187588_1099381318_n.jpg)
I think they want that with or without marajauna :D
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.memewow.com%2Fmemes%2F7%2F951%2Fscumbag-girl-smokes-all-your-weed.jpg&hash=e0d211ae06233c761fdbd2a94df3b2fa809b2531)
At that point I'd probably break the bong over her head.
But then you'll have no weed -- and a broken bong...
Quote from: Gates on Dec 18, 2012, 05:45:28 PM
http://images.memewow.com/memes/7/951/scumbag-girl-smokes-all-your-weed.jpg
I wouldn't even let her in my home, assuming I had any to share, lol.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 19, 2012, 03:54:06 AM
Quote from: Gates on Dec 18, 2012, 05:45:28 PM
http://images.memewow.com/memes/7/951/scumbag-girl-smokes-all-your-weed.jpg
I wouldn't even let her in my home, assuming I had any to share, lol.
Uh huh. We all know you have that massive stash, you can't hide it from us, DR. ;D
Someone else already found it:
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn-www.i-am-bored.com%2Fmedia%2Fmombustssonwithpot.jpg&hash=0f49c56c847dc79d43ac518ebfa22e0658a6d86b)
;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXIhdC33NUE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXIhdC33NUE#ws)
Quote from: Prime113 on Dec 19, 2012, 03:35:44 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 19, 2012, 03:54:06 AM
Quote from: Gates on Dec 18, 2012, 05:45:28 PM
http://images.memewow.com/memes/7/951/scumbag-girl-smokes-all-your-weed.jpg
I wouldn't even let her in my home, assuming I had any to share, lol.
Uh huh. We all know you have that massive stash, you can't hide it from us, DR. ;D
Hey kiddo, you're too young to smoke up so don't worry.
may i broach a topic?
DMT. discuss
Any of you boys ever try it? Hear any stories about it?
Quote from: Byohzrd on Dec 21, 2012, 07:21:20 AM
may i broach a topic?
DMT. discuss
Any of you boys ever try it? Hear any stories about it?
I have,a few times.You can't really put it into words what goes on.
It's kinda like this.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF5QGl6JoKg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF5QGl6JoKg#)
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 20, 2012, 03:52:20 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Dec 19, 2012, 03:35:44 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 19, 2012, 03:54:06 AM
Quote from: Gates on Dec 18, 2012, 05:45:28 PM
http://images.memewow.com/memes/7/951/scumbag-girl-smokes-all-your-weed.jpg
I wouldn't even let her in my home, assuming I had any to share, lol.
Uh huh. We all know you have that massive stash, you can't hide it from us, DR. ;D
Hey kiddo, you're too young to smoke up so don't worry.
Whaaa? There's no legal age to smoke something that's illegal. :P
^
.... lol
Quote from: Byohzrd on Dec 21, 2012, 07:21:20 AMDMT. discuss
Any of you boys ever try it? Hear any stories about it?
Everybody's tried it.
Quote from: maledoro on Dec 21, 2012, 02:49:52 PM
Quote from: Byohzrd on Dec 21, 2012, 07:21:20 AMDMT. discuss
Any of you boys ever try it? Hear any stories about it?
Everybody's tried it.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsemiaccurate.com%2Fassets%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2FI-See-What-You-Did-There..png&hash=34df271a73225383e825bbee97bf090b9ed331cb)
Quote from: Prime113 on Dec 21, 2012, 07:32:02 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 20, 2012, 03:52:20 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Dec 19, 2012, 03:35:44 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 19, 2012, 03:54:06 AM
Quote from: Gates on Dec 18, 2012, 05:45:28 PM
http://images.memewow.com/memes/7/951/scumbag-girl-smokes-all-your-weed.jpg
I wouldn't even let her in my home, assuming I had any to share, lol.
Uh huh. We all know you have that massive stash, you can't hide it from us, DR. ;D
Hey kiddo, you're too young to smoke up so don't worry.
Whaaa? There's no legal age to smoke something that's illegal. :P
You are still but a whelp in my eyes.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 22, 2012, 01:10:14 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Dec 21, 2012, 07:32:02 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 20, 2012, 03:52:20 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Dec 19, 2012, 03:35:44 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 19, 2012, 03:54:06 AM
Quote from: Gates on Dec 18, 2012, 05:45:28 PM
http://images.memewow.com/memes/7/951/scumbag-girl-smokes-all-your-weed.jpg
I wouldn't even let her in my home, assuming I had any to share, lol.
Uh huh. We all know you have that massive stash, you can't hide it from us, DR. ;D
Hey kiddo, you're too young to smoke up so don't worry.
Whaaa? There's no legal age to smoke something that's illegal. :P
You are still but a whelp in my eyes.
:laugh: I'm only, like, 2 years younger than you! :laugh:
Quote from: Gates on Dec 18, 2012, 05:45:28 PM
http://images.memewow.com/memes/7/951/scumbag-girl-smokes-all-your-weed.jpg
Since when? ;D
I don't know how many E's I had yesterdays all I know is before and after they hit me I just get paranoid about my spine.
Quote from: Lie on Dec 22, 2012, 12:23:58 PM
I don't know how many E's I had yesterdays all I know is before and after they hit me I just get paranoid about my spine.
Yeah they do that to you,took a few a while back in a nightclub and had to leave and go back to my flat to chill out because my eyes started vibrating and it felt like people were talking to me up close to my face.
Man this thread makes me feel old.
My thoughts on drugs: Stay the f**k away from amphetamines, educate yourself about the drug you are taking and have real friends around when you partake. And stay the f**k away from amphetamines.
Quote from: Prime113 on Dec 22, 2012, 06:41:12 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 22, 2012, 01:10:14 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Dec 21, 2012, 07:32:02 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 20, 2012, 03:52:20 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Dec 19, 2012, 03:35:44 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 19, 2012, 03:54:06 AM
Quote from: Gates on Dec 18, 2012, 05:45:28 PM
http://images.memewow.com/memes/7/951/scumbag-girl-smokes-all-your-weed.jpg
I wouldn't even let her in my home, assuming I had any to share, lol.
Uh huh. We all know you have that massive stash, you can't hide it from us, DR. ;D
Hey kiddo, you're too young to smoke up so don't worry.
Whaaa? There's no legal age to smoke something that's illegal. :P
You are still but a whelp in my eyes.
:laugh: I'm only, like, 2 years younger than you! :laugh:
Yeah but you look like you're 10 years younger.
Quote from: Effectz on Dec 22, 2012, 12:57:50 PM
Quote from: Lie on Dec 22, 2012, 12:23:58 PM
I don't know how many E's I had yesterdays all I know is before and after they hit me I just get paranoid about my spine.
Yeah they do that to you,took a few a while back in a nightclub and had to leave and go back to my flat to chill out because my eyes started vibrating and it felt like people were talking to me up close to my face.
:laugh:
I got that from bombing about 1/2 a gram of MDMA, I just couldn't make eye contact like my eye had a mind of it own.
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Quote from: Byohzrd on Dec 21, 2012, 07:21:20 AMDMT. discuss
Any of you boys ever try it? Hear any stories about it?
Everybody's tried it.
http://semiaccurate.com/assets/uploads/2012/03/I-See-What-You-Did-There..png
Well...you guys are dealing with an experienced psychonaut with an extensive knowledge of human brain chemistry...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.city-data.com%2Fforum%2Fmembers%2Fjill61-603505-albums-emoticons-pic62805-shrug.gif&hash=f5eee3409850e52abce90b5f4db0c563a3df5064)
Had a good time with Tabs yesterday, entered a nice cel shaded mode. After a couples drink I just remember laughing at everyone's different life stories about Alyssa Rosales. :laugh: Also managed to steer clear of weed.
Vice's Pharmacopeia.. wonderful docs about drugs. :) This one here is about the drugs that are "supposedly" used by voodoo sorcerers to produce "zombies". ;) funny and informative. Do recommend. ;)
http://www.vice.com/hamiltons-pharmacopeia/nzambi-episode-1 (http://www.vice.com/hamiltons-pharmacopeia/nzambi-episode-1)
Quote from: maledoro on Dec 25, 2012, 05:12:01 PM
Quote from: Effectz on Dec 21, 2012, 06:29:46 PM
Quote from: maledoro on Dec 21, 2012, 02:49:52 PM
Quote from: Byohzrd on Dec 21, 2012, 07:21:20 AMDMT. discuss
Any of you boys ever try it? Hear any stories about it?
Everybody's tried it.
http://semiaccurate.com/assets/uploads/2012/03/I-See-What-You-Did-There..png
Well...you guys are dealing with an experienced psychonaut with an extensive knowledge of human brain chemistry...
http://www.city-data.com/forum/members/jill61-603505-albums-emoticons-pic62805-shrug.gif
I HAVE!
It was the most profound psychedelic experience ever! One of exes went to a festival and brought a few small baggies back.I felt like I was immediatly disconnected from reality and for .2 seconds, I thought I had died! I heard auditory hallucinations that sounded like evil keebler elves getting flushed down the toilet. It was like a shrooom trip X100. I'm no longer afraid of death and I actually cannot wait to experience the sensation again.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 13, 2012, 08:05:15 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 12, 2012, 10:47:08 PM
I'm not against free weed however I've yet to meet a weeder that wasn't also an idiot
Almost hate to admit it but every person I knew who smoked heavily was kind of on the dimwitted side. Every single one of them.
I know some geniuses who smoke weed.
Sometimes try something else too.
Though, I admit this is uncommon.
But I don't think it's because of weed.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 13, 2012, 08:05:15 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 12, 2012, 10:47:08 PM
I'm not against free weed however I've yet to meet a weeder that wasn't also an idiot
Almost hate to admit it but every person I knew who smoked heavily was kind of on the dimwitted side. Every single one of them.
And? I know this is obvious but that doesn't reflect on the majority of weed smokers.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 31, 2013, 05:32:15 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Dec 13, 2012, 08:05:15 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 12, 2012, 10:47:08 PM
I'm not against free weed however I've yet to meet a weeder that wasn't also an idiot
Almost hate to admit it but every person I knew who smoked heavily was kind of on the dimwitted side. Every single one of them.
And? I know this is obvious but that doesn't reflect on the majority of weed smokers.
Wasn't meant to, it was a statement of my personal experience. Every person I have personally know or met - who smoked heavily - was a bit dulled up stairs without exception.
Shame. The ones I know are pretty sharp. Heck, they become rather amusing after lighting up.
I've had some of the most fun experiences of my life when some sort of drug was involved. My favorite however is marijuana. It's safe, it's fun, and more than anything it helps with the stress from day to day life. Mushrooms are amazing if you have the right people to do it with. Some pills are ok, but the price will get you. I've tried 25-i once and that was pretty mellow, but I tripped for something like twenty seven hours. DMT is my favorite psychedelic though, that stuff is on a whole different level.
In no way am I advocating drug use. My experience with drugs is my own and anyone else who is curious about these substances should do research on their own. Always look into what you're putting in your body before it goes there.
No drugs for me.
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 15, 2013, 03:56:35 AM
No drugs for me.
Good for you man, stay straight.
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 15, 2013, 03:56:35 AM
No drugs for me.
Does that makes you bettter than people who do drugs? No arguing just an honest answer,I know some people who think that being straightedge somehow elevates them above..
No, but it does make me healthier than most of people that do use drugs.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 16, 2013, 02:47:35 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 15, 2013, 03:56:35 AM
No drugs for me.
Does that makes you bettter than people who do drugs? No arguing just an honest answer,I know some people who think that being straightedge somehow elevates them above..
He wasn't implying it did. He just said he doesn't do them.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 16, 2013, 02:47:35 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 15, 2013, 03:56:35 AM
No drugs for me.
Does that makes you bettter than people who do drugs? No arguing just an honest answer,I know some people who think that being straightedge somehow elevates them above..
I think there are two types of "straight edge" people, the people who realize the importance of taking care of the body and they actively avoid putting anything into it that may cause harm, and the people who do it for the attention. I know people from both groups, and I know some people from both that carry themselves with an air of superiority over others because "they aren't stupid enough to do drugs."
I wouldn't call myself a drug user, drug it's self is a harsh term that we use to label everything from aspirin to DMT. I do however regularly use psychedelics. Psychedelics have a terrible social stigma, they're seen as these frightening toxins that'll induce "bad trips" that will scar you for life. I can honestly say that I had the most humbling and profound experiences on DMT.
As far as being healthy goes, you can do drugs and still keep your body healthy. As I said before, I recreationally smoke marijuana and use psychedelics, but I'm in the gym four to five times a week. I have a healthy diet and I sleep regularly. Just like anything else, if you're careful and don't over indulge drugs can be a safe and fun way to have great experiences.
A list of the things I've done; Alcohol, Marijuana, Percecet, Vicoden, Xanax, psilocybin mushrooms, 2C-I-NBOMEe, Salvia, Ecstasy (MDMA aka molly), and the best DMT.
I have not and will not try: Heroin or Coke. I've been offered the latter but I've turned it down every time. I would be more than happy to share some of my experiences if anyone's curious.
Quote from: LastSonofWhat on Feb 14, 2013, 07:45:58 AM
I've had some of the most fun experiences of my life when some sort of drug was involved.
How borring your life must be.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 22, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
Quote from: LastSonofWhat on Feb 14, 2013, 07:45:58 AM
I've had some of the most fun experiences of my life when some sort of drug was involved.
How borring your life must be.
Agreed
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 22, 2013, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 22, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
Quote from: LastSonofWhat on Feb 14, 2013, 07:45:58 AM
I've had some of the most fun experiences of my life when some sort of drug was involved.
How borring your life must be.
Agreed
That's not fair. Maybe he has a chronological disorder that is greatly helped by pharmaceuticals.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 22, 2013, 05:13:01 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 22, 2013, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 22, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
Quote from: LastSonofWhat on Feb 14, 2013, 07:45:58 AM
I've had some of the most fun experiences of my life when some sort of drug was involved.
How borring your life must be.
Agreed
That's not fair. Maybe he has a chronological disorder that is greatly helped by pharmaceuticals.
You're not supposed to have fun with your medicine. :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCDnR6Px-co# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCDnR6Px-co#)
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 22, 2013, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 22, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
Quote from: LastSonofWhat on Feb 14, 2013, 07:45:58 AM
I've had some of the most fun experiences of my life when some sort of drug was involved.
How borring your life must be.
Agreed
Could it be that drugs merely enhanced the experience? Just a thought.
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 22, 2013, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 22, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
Quote from: LastSonofWhat on Feb 14, 2013, 07:45:58 AM
I've had some of the most fun experiences of my life when some sort of drug was involved.
How borring your life must be.
Agreed
Life is boring. At least under the current paradigm promoted by society and the media. The only escape is drugs. Or a highly creative mind. Choose your poison, because you're going to need it.
What bollocks. Life isn't boring. You can enjoy life and fun by doing the simplest of things. For some, that's as easy as sitting beneath a tree and reading a good book.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 25, 2013, 08:55:31 AM
What bollocks. Life isn't boring. You can enjoy life and fun by doing the simplest of things. For some, that's as easy as sitting beneath a tree and reading a good book.
Yea, or white water rafting on the Ottawa river.
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Feb 25, 2013, 09:22:53 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 25, 2013, 08:55:31 AM
What bollocks. Life isn't boring. You can enjoy life and fun by doing the simplest of things. For some, that's as easy as sitting beneath a tree and reading a good book.
Yea, or white water rafting on the Ottawa river.
Rouge River in Quebec is better
A few years back, a bunch of us went rafting at the Delaware Water Gap expecting some crazy, adrenaline junkie fun...except, no one did any research, we just decided -- on a whim -- to go one weekend...
Unbeknown to us city folk, we went during the wrong season...my piss moves with more force than that river did, lulz...at one point we were stuck in some shallows and we were able to step into the river to move the raft with no danger whatsoever...
Luckily, we had a large bottle of Jack (and some other goodies) to keep us entertained...friggen hilarious... :D
I have no real issues with recreational drug use, as long as it isn't drug abuse. :o
Quote from: DontRelaxJustYetMarines on Feb 24, 2013, 06:28:31 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 22, 2013, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 22, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
Quote from: LastSonofWhat on Feb 14, 2013, 07:45:58 AM
I've had some of the most fun experiences of my life when some sort of drug was involved.
How borring your life must be.
Agreed
Life is boring. At least under the current paradigm promoted by society and the media. The only escape is drugs. Or a highly creative mind. Choose your poison, because you're going to need it.
I believe using drugs as a means to escape reality is a form of substance abuse. If you're like, "Hey I'm going to get high to have some fun tonight." Yeah sure, knock yourself out (lol), but if you're like "Oh, my life sucks and its boring and I don't like it, so I'm going to get high so I don't have to deal with it." Then I believe you have a problem, or the beginnings of one.
Just my opinion on the matter anyway.
Quote from: Gates on Feb 27, 2013, 05:44:13 PM
A few years back, a bunch of us went rafting at the Delaware Water Gap expecting some crazy, adrenaline junkie fun...except, no one did any research, we just decided -- on a whim -- to go one weekend...
Unbeknown to us city folk, we went during the wrong season...my piss moves with more force than that river did, lulz...at one point we were stuck in some shallows and we were able to step into the river to move the raft with no danger whatsoever...
Luckily, we had a large bottle of Jack (and some other goodies) to keep us entertained...friggen hilarious... :D
It's interesting you mention this because really, you did use a drug to make it more entertaining but it seems like not many people would see alcohol as a drug because it's so widely accepted.
Quote from: TheLoneSpoon on Feb 27, 2013, 05:46:23 PM
I have no real issues with recreational drug use, as long as it isn't drug abuse. :o
Quote from: DontRelaxJustYetMarines on Feb 24, 2013, 06:28:31 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 22, 2013, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 22, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
Quote from: LastSonofWhat on Feb 14, 2013, 07:45:58 AM
I've had some of the most fun experiences of my life when some sort of drug was involved.
How borring your life must be.
Agreed
Life is boring. At least under the current paradigm promoted by society and the media. The only escape is drugs. Or a highly creative mind. Choose your poison, because you're going to need it.
I believe using drugs as a means to escape reality is a form of substance abuse. If you're like, "Hey I'm going to get high to have some fun tonight." Yeah sure, knock yourself out (lol), but if you're like "Oh, my life sucks and its boring and I don't like it, so I'm going to get high so I don't have to deal with it." Then I believe you have a problem, or the beginnings of one.
Just my opinion on the matter anyway.
That's some strange reasoning. I would think it would be the opposite.
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 27, 2013, 05:52:51 PM
Quote from: TheLoneSpoon on Feb 27, 2013, 05:46:23 PM
I have no real issues with recreational drug use, as long as it isn't drug abuse. :o
Quote from: DontRelaxJustYetMarines on Feb 24, 2013, 06:28:31 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 22, 2013, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 22, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
Quote from: LastSonofWhat on Feb 14, 2013, 07:45:58 AM
I've had some of the most fun experiences of my life when some sort of drug was involved.
How borring your life must be.
Agreed
Life is boring. At least under the current paradigm promoted by society and the media. The only escape is drugs. Or a highly creative mind. Choose your poison, because you're going to need it.
I believe using drugs as a means to escape reality is a form of substance abuse. If you're like, "Hey I'm going to get high to have some fun tonight." Yeah sure, knock yourself out (lol), but if you're like "Oh, my life sucks and its boring and I don't like it, so I'm going to get high so I don't have to deal with it." Then I believe you have a problem, or the beginnings of one.
Just my opinion on the matter anyway.
That's some strange reasoning. I would think it would be the opposite.
How so? So you think using drugs to escape reality is fine, but using drugs to have a little fun is a problem?
If you say to yourself, "I want to have some fun tonight (indicating a specific time) so I will use just a little bit of drug X whilst doing activity Y," I wouldn't quite call that addiction only because it sounds like a person is able to control how much of something they take and when they do so. In the other situation it's more of a continuous thing, regardless of the situation.
Quote from: TheLoneSpoon on Feb 27, 2013, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 27, 2013, 05:52:51 PM
Quote from: TheLoneSpoon on Feb 27, 2013, 05:46:23 PM
I have no real issues with recreational drug use, as long as it isn't drug abuse. :o
Quote from: DontRelaxJustYetMarines on Feb 24, 2013, 06:28:31 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 22, 2013, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 22, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
Quote from: LastSonofWhat on Feb 14, 2013, 07:45:58 AM
I've had some of the most fun experiences of my life when some sort of drug was involved.
How borring your life must be.
Agreed
Life is boring. At least under the current paradigm promoted by society and the media. The only escape is drugs. Or a highly creative mind. Choose your poison, because you're going to need it.
I believe using drugs as a means to escape reality is a form of substance abuse. If you're like, "Hey I'm going to get high to have some fun tonight." Yeah sure, knock yourself out (lol), but if you're like "Oh, my life sucks and its boring and I don't like it, so I'm going to get high so I don't have to deal with it." Then I believe you have a problem, or the beginnings of one.
Just my opinion on the matter anyway.
That's some strange reasoning. I would think it would be the opposite.
How so? So you think using drugs to escape reality is fine, but using drugs to have a little fun is a problem?
No, I don't encourage either, but it is easier for me to see someone doing drugs and them having major issues instead of them just doing it "for fun."
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 27, 2013, 05:48:31 PM
It's interesting you mention this because really, you did use a drug to make it more entertaining but it seems like not many people would see alcohol as a drug because it's so widely accepted.
In a way, yeah...but it wasn't our original intent...the bottle was meant for after we were done, shots to celebrate conquering the river..! :D
People's views on what is/isn't drugs are irrelevant to me at this stage in my life...how 'bout we all do whatever we want to do or don't want to do, so long as we don't infringe on others..?
Users/nonusers don't have to explain anything to anybody...just do you...
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 27, 2013, 06:01:17 PM
Quote from: TheLoneSpoon on Feb 27, 2013, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 27, 2013, 05:52:51 PM
Quote from: TheLoneSpoon on Feb 27, 2013, 05:46:23 PM
I have no real issues with recreational drug use, as long as it isn't drug abuse. :o
Quote from: DontRelaxJustYetMarines on Feb 24, 2013, 06:28:31 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 22, 2013, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 22, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
Quote from: LastSonofWhat on Feb 14, 2013, 07:45:58 AM
I've had some of the most fun experiences of my life when some sort of drug was involved.
How borring your life must be.
Agreed
Life is boring. At least under the current paradigm promoted by society and the media. The only escape is drugs. Or a highly creative mind. Choose your poison, because you're going to need it.
I believe using drugs as a means to escape reality is a form of substance abuse. If you're like, "Hey I'm going to get high to have some fun tonight." Yeah sure, knock yourself out (lol), but if you're like "Oh, my life sucks and its boring and I don't like it, so I'm going to get high so I don't have to deal with it." Then I believe you have a problem, or the beginnings of one.
Just my opinion on the matter anyway.
That's some strange reasoning. I would think it would be the opposite.
How so? So you think using drugs to escape reality is fine, but using drugs to have a little fun is a problem?
No, I don't encourage either, but it is easier for me to see someone doing drugs and them having major issues instead of them just doing it "for fun."
Ah okay, I wasn't saying which is easier to see being done. I was just saying that using them as a means of escape is a problem.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 25, 2013, 08:55:31 AM
What bollocks. Life isn't boring. You can enjoy life and fun by doing the simplest of things. For some, that's as easy as sitting beneath a tree and reading a good book.
That doesn't generate dollars. To enjoy the simple things, you need to be cashed up. Otherwise, you're too busy chasing money. Unless you're really that simple and don't mind sleeping on benches and eating out of dumpsters. But doing that you'll be dead pretty soon, anyway, so may as well go and jump off of a bridge or something.
Quote from: DontRelaxJustYetMarines on Feb 28, 2013, 12:22:13 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 25, 2013, 08:55:31 AM
What bollocks. Life isn't boring. You can enjoy life and fun by doing the simplest of things. For some, that's as easy as sitting beneath a tree and reading a good book.
That doesn't generate dollars. To enjoy the simple things, you need to be cashed up. Otherwise, you're too busy chasing money. Unless you're really that simple and don't mind sleeping on benches and eating out of dumpsters. But doing that you'll be dead pretty soon, anyway, so may as well go and jump off of a bridge or something.
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsMaBta4SxI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsMaBta4SxI#)
Quote from: DontRelaxJustYetMarines on Feb 28, 2013, 12:22:13 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 25, 2013, 08:55:31 AM
What bollocks. Life isn't boring. You can enjoy life and fun by doing the simplest of things. For some, that's as easy as sitting beneath a tree and reading a good book.
That doesn't generate dollars. To enjoy the simple things, you need to be cashed up. Otherwise, you're too busy chasing money. Unless you're really that simple and don't mind sleeping on benches and eating out of dumpsters. But doing that you'll be dead pretty soon, anyway, so may as well go and jump off of a bridge or something.
There's this magical thing called,
free time. It's quite relaxing, I suggest you enjoy it when you can.
Quote from: TheLoneSpoon on Feb 28, 2013, 06:49:04 PM
Quote from: DontRelaxJustYetMarines on Feb 28, 2013, 12:22:13 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 25, 2013, 08:55:31 AM
What bollocks. Life isn't boring. You can enjoy life and fun by doing the simplest of things. For some, that's as easy as sitting beneath a tree and reading a good book.
That doesn't generate dollars. To enjoy the simple things, you need to be cashed up. Otherwise, you're too busy chasing money. Unless you're really that simple and don't mind sleeping on benches and eating out of dumpsters. But doing that you'll be dead pretty soon, anyway, so may as well go and jump off of a bridge or something.
There's this magical thing called, free time. It's quite relaxing, I suggest you enjoy it when you can.
He can't though, he hates life.