this is a thread to talk about your favorite techniques, strategies, and tricks from multiplayer. Some of mine are using the spear in close combat, gliding to the side while using the tail attack, and keeping an eye on likely predator sniping points so I can snipe them. No cheap spamming ideas please. Map specific strategies perfectly acceptable.
I usually play as a Xenomorph and I picked up a trick from a friend.
When you use a Heavy Attack, jump as you go into it, it usually works; unless your opponent is quicker or already knows that trick.
Heh
Thats all I got so far, as I tend to race around opponents and jump from wall to wall while using leap attacks.
Basically disorientation tactics. (Can backfire)
Quote from: Hunter158 on Oct 01, 2010, 02:35:09 AM
I usually play as a Xenomorph and I picked up a trick from a friend.
When you use a Heavy Attack, jump as you go into it, it usually works; unless your opponent is quicker or already knows that trick.
Heh
Thats all I got so far, as I tend to race around opponents and jump from wall to wall while using leap attacks.
Basically disorientation tactics. (Can backfire)
Now I know your secrets. Prepare to die! :P
My favourite tip- Play on a server that doesn't have a shit connection. Works every time ;).
Quote from: Stalker on Oct 01, 2010, 09:01:08 AM
My favourite tip- Play on a server that doesn't have a shit connection. Works every time ;).
My God! How did I not think of that before!
;)
Quote from: AcidGlow on Oct 01, 2010, 07:59:57 AM
Now I know your secrets. Prepare to die! :P
Yeah, well, I watch your Youtube vids to learn your tactics
:D
90% of Preds/Aliens strafe right (your left)
Quote from: Hunter158 on Oct 02, 2010, 09:32:21 AM
Quote from: AcidGlow on Oct 01, 2010, 07:59:57 AM
Now I know your secrets. Prepare to die! :P
Yeah, well, I watch your Youtube vids to learn your tactics
:D
DOH!!!
Against marines who block heavy attack just start it and cancel it (block) and then counter the marine.
The poor dude just went into the trap and so you can kill it very easily.
I find that most experienced players all use pretty much the same strategy.
Noobs tend to just forget about the block & heavy attack altogether, making them easy targets. On the flip side, good players can usually anticipate their opponents' move set by judging what they would do in that situation. The real key to victory is just getting the timing right.
Quote from: Stalker on Oct 03, 2010, 03:46:26 AM
I find that most experienced players all use pretty much the same strategy.
Noobs tend to just forget about the block & heavy attack altogether, making them easy targets. On the flip side, good players can usually anticipate their opponents' move set by judging what they would do in that situation. The real key to victory is just getting the timing right.
On the PC getting the "timing right" is nigh on impossable when you have idiots with pings of 250/300 playing on the server from thousands of miles away - another good tip is to just leave the server when they join - much like Stalker's tip above.
Quote from: IRL_Calibre on Oct 02, 2010, 09:57:44 AM
90% of Preds/Aliens strafe right (your left)
So how do you stop them?
Quote from: brennan4 on Oct 06, 2010, 11:42:52 PM
Quote from: IRL_Calibre on Oct 02, 2010, 09:57:44 AM
90% of Preds/Aliens strafe right (your left)
So how do you stop them?
now, funny you should ask brennan4 , I find the tried and tested method of shooting them in the face as they try to strafe around you works best tbh. So, make sure your crosshairs are aiming where they are going to be - before they are.
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Quote from: Hunter158 on Oct 01, 2010, 02:35:09 AM
I usually play as a Xenomorph and I picked up a trick from a friend.
When you use a Heavy Attack, jump as you go into it
So all I have to do. Is perform a heavy attack and press jump?
Yeah, as you go into tail whip you jump and move sideways, makes you harder to hit
On Refinery, as an alien I like to hide on the ceiling in the room that the marines more often than not camp in, the room with the ramp and the catwalks (not the room with the smartgun). You're hidden in the dark and most marines don't know to look all the way up, what with being too focused on the walls and floors. From this vantage point I like to focus pounce on the marines at random.
Now that strategy alone will get you killed. The real trick is that you don't finish the marine that you just pounced off since that would just lock you into melee and have you shot in the back by his friends. Instead what you do is leap straight back up onto the ceiling and reposition yourself for another pounce. The marine you just hit will want to heal, and the others will be looking for you, so make sure you don't attack someone who's blocking. Just rinse and repeat. If marines are camping in that room and you'll rack up that kill streak so long as you're quick on your escape. I've taken on about 5 or so marines at once and beaten them with this method.
Which brings me to my other tip as an alien: run away! Think of the alien as a bullet. If you hit the first time, feel free to mess your target up. However, if you MISS your attack, either leap onto whatever ceiling or wall is closest to you and sprint away. If you're not close to a wall then just skip ahead to sprinting away. It does you and your team no good to increase the other teams' frags. You can always set up another attack run if you mess it up, but only if you're alive.
Oh T.L., it's easy to say run away but the predator will just engage in melee or plasma you on the way out if you miss.
You're an alien. Why does anyone, nevermind just the predator, even see you coming or going? Quit running around in the open, you look stupid. You're supposed to be sneaky, like a ninja. Ninjas don't take their opponents on head on. And if those bullies are catching up to you... well, they shouldn't be. You're the fastest kid on the track team. Quit being silly.
These things keep my pace going when I play as a bug, though my preference is marine. It's so much more satisfying taking down these badass monsters when they can rip me to pieces in a moment.
Quote from: T.L.22 on Oct 09, 2010, 09:54:38 PM
These things keep my pace going when I play as a bug, though my preference is marine. It's so much more satisfying taking down these badass monsters when they can rip me to pieces in a moment.
Except for those occasions when a human just bitch slaps a xeno onto the floor like it's a little girl with the apparent strength of Hercules. :o
I find the marines pretty satisfying to play as well, especially when there's in-fighting between other players. The double kills rack up so easily.
Quote from: Stalker on Oct 10, 2010, 01:22:53 AM
Quote from: T.L.22 on Oct 09, 2010, 09:54:38 PM
These things keep my pace going when I play as a bug, though my preference is marine. It's so much more satisfying taking down these badass monsters when they can rip me to pieces in a moment.
Except for those occasions when a human just bitch slaps a xeno onto the floor like it's a little girl with the apparent strength of Hercules. :o
I find the marines pretty satisfying to play as well, especially when there's in-fighting between other players. The double kills rack up so easily.
you have to keep a certain distance. To close to be shot but far enough that they can't slap you.
the only tip i have, as a predominantly marine player... always be ready to run away, and always run away backwards, and run away as soon as your tracker beeps. don't bother waiting to find out where your enemy is, they will reveal themselves faster by chasing you than you looking for them.
You see people who try to turn around and sprint away from aliens or preds, "because sprinting is so much faster than normal walking speed" when a) sprinting or not, you are still slower than either species, b) both species can stealthkill from behind, c) motion tracker reads forwards only, and d) your eyes only see forwards and e) it takes precious time to turn around.
i pretty much swear by this tactic in both survivor and mp.
Quote from: brennan4 on Oct 11, 2010, 02:22:08 PM
you have to keep a certain distance. To close to be shot but far enough that they can't slap you.
See where my tip is run into the heavy attack and make sure you get that counter in there.
I play primarily as the Alien, when I can (obviously, if you're halfway familiar with me, I guess).
- The floor sucks. Use it as little as possible. When you don't have to use it, use walls, ceilings and your incredible jump distance to traverse terrain. Most FPS players, even AvP veterans, are mostly used to fighting-off gravity-found adversaries, so this becomes both a surprise and evasion tactic built into one.
- The Alien isn't so much an organism as it is a weapon, so think like one. Don't get into extended combats where possible; choose the best opportunity to strike and press your advantage.
- Think ahead. Thanks to its wall-crawling and insane speed, the Alien is the "dominant" life-form in this game. By that, I mean that it often gets to choose the circumstances of battle in interior settings. Take advantage of this and try to guess at your adversaries' thought processes. Set up expectations and subvert them at a critical moment. Marines and Predators, in comparison, can't be as aggressive as you and are forced to react to your tactics, given your superior initiative.
- Since you're the one class that has to close the distance, you're at your most vulnerable in larger matches. Adapt your aggression-patience ratio to the kind of match you've got. A full server provides a lot of opportunity to rack up the kills, but there's a lot to be wary of as well. Smaller matches or secluded map sections (such as those that appear in Pyramid) are your bread and butter.
Ultimately, this all boils down to one point:
Take the superior position. You're faster and more agile than anyone else in the game, so put the pedal to the mettle and take initiative. You are the lightning bolt that strikes from a clear sky.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Oct 11, 2010, 04:46:06 PM
I play primarily as the Alien, when I can (obviously, if you're halfway familiar with me, I guess).
- The floor sucks. Use it as little as possible. When you don't have to use it, use walls, ceilings and your incredible jump distance to traverse terrain. Most FPS players, even AvP veterans, are mostly used to fighting-off gravity-found adversaries, so this becomes both a surprise and evasion tactic built into one.
- The Alien isn't so much an organism as it is a weapon, so think like one. Don't get into extended combats where possible; choose the best opportunity to strike and press your advantage.
- Think ahead. Thanks to its wall-crawling and insane speed, the Alien is the "dominant" life-form in this game. By that, I mean that it often gets to choose the circumstances of battle in interior settings. Take advantage of this and try to guess at your adversaries' thought processes. Set up expectations and subvert them at a critical moment. Marines and Predators, in comparison, can't be as aggressive as you and are forced to react to your tactics, given your superior initiative.
- Since you're the one class that has to close the distance, you're at your most vulnerable in larger matches. Adapt your aggression-patience ratio to the kind of match you've got. A full server provides a lot of opportunity to rack up the kills, but there's a lot to be wary of as well. Smaller matches or secluded map sections (such as those that appear in Pyramid) are your bread and butter.
Ultimately, this all boils down to one point:
Take the superior position. You're faster and more agile than anyone else in the game, so put the pedal to the mettle and take initiative. You are the lightning bolt that strikes from a clear sky.
Very well put.
Alien
•Attack opposed players who are fighting each other when they are most vulnerable to attack
•Be stealthy and patient (which can be hard when voice says "5 min" reaming) which kind of ruches you.
•Keep on move
•Don't go out in the open
•Remain in packs with your teammates
•Use your environment e.g. walls and ceilings
Marine
•Fire upon opposed players who are fighting each other when they are most vulnerable to attack - using grenade would be handy
•If someone going to heavy attack you give them a good nudge which could buy you some time to open fire or block their light attack, which the usually do in response
•Keep your flash light off when in the open as this can give your position away from a distance
•Stay with your team
•Keep on move and stay alert
•Avoid close quarter corridors as you are asking to be tail attacked from above
Thanks for tip Hunter158 really useful
the thread asked for tips & tricks but here's my guide for nub Marines..
Keep moving - even from side to side when making a stand (camping)
keep checking behind you 180 degrees regularly. if making a stand it's best to choose an area where you're not vulnerable from behind!
always pick up a secondary weapon, ALWAYS! I use mouse wheel up & down to switch between it and my pulse rifle - I prefer usually sniper / shotty depending on map, very rarely would I pick up the "flamethrower" or, "smartgun".
allocate the health stim to a quickly accessable key - I use "Q" as I use a traditional WASD key set up, this means quick healing without losing movement.
always health stim (if required) / reload (always required!) at the first opportune moment. if playing Species Death match find other Marines to cover you while you do both actions if required.
it's best to keep your torch off as much as possible in death match.
You can move at THREE speeds, when you walk you can hear way more than if you Jog (default) or sprint (because of your heavy breathing & grunting which blocks out alot of ambient sound & gets worse the more you exert yourself) - get a good set of headphones!! also, always remember YOU CAN'T SHOOT WHEN SPRINTING you can instantly open up on your target when walking or jogging
learn to Block (hold melee key) & counter (tap melee key)- if you sucessfully counter with a knock down, don't move your mouse as it auto aims you directly on your victims head just press fire.
It's quicker & more effective to Block-->Counter--->switch weapon than it is to Block--->Counter--->Reload
Some times it's better to Block--->counter--->Heal * don't worry someone else will finish off the xeno/pred you knocked on its butt * and live to fight another day, than it is to Block--->Counter--->switch weapon/reload.
a well timed strafe jump, left or right, will a lot of the time save you from a heavy attack death. Much better than trying to counter punch, which usually equals death 99% of the time in multiplayer! also a strafe jump is good for avoiding plasma... sometimes.. also you can shoot pred mines to trigger them.
Marines:
General
1.Turn off you flash light if you don't think anyone has seen you. I've spotted countless marines from a distance thanks to the shoulder lamps alone.
2.Always make regular weapon pick ups when safe. I always grab grenades and a shotgun I like to keep handy for close encounters.
3.Watch out for laser beams and hidden enemies. I've been killed a number of times by preds who ran past me, cloaked around the corner and got a stealth kill as I walked past.
4.The smartgun and sniper should only be used in special circumstances. They are less effective than the shotgun and pulse rifle most of the time.
My tip - use a lag switch. :P
Know your opponant and be unpredictable.
Quote from: Taxemic on Dec 01, 2010, 07:15:31 PM
Know your opponant and be unpredictable.
But if everyone takes your advice and is unpredictable, how can you know your opponent?
Quote from: brennan4 on Dec 01, 2010, 08:24:30 PM
Quote from: Taxemic on Dec 01, 2010, 07:15:31 PM
Know your opponant and be unpredictable.
But if everyone takes your advice and is unpredictable, how can you know your opponent?
I don't ride such a high horse that I expect 'everyone' to take my advice, but if someone did - well...it might just help win a match or two. And if you know that your opponant is being unpredictable, that can improve your chances too.The thread is called "Your favorite tips and tricks". I posted mine. I'm sorry if I've confused you.
As a Pred when you are in melee and there is a bit of distance between you and your opponent, at the point where your HA's wont hit and there is that awkward moment when you both are strafing with your block on, catch your opponent off gaurd by initiating a HA and run towards him/her just as your HA starts, you will find if they LA it wont connect, works really well on all enemy species especially marines who are good at countering. Thats my little tip for dominating in melee. Enjoy...ps only preds can sprint heavy. ;)
As a Marine (or a Predator), I counter an Alien's heavy attack, which would later cause them to light attack me, but instead, I block again and counter their light attack and get an easy kill. I can actually blow up Aliens with the Flame Thrower using this technique. :D
As an Alien in the Refinery or the Pyramid, I rarely use the tail attack from walls. Instead, I jump from the ceiling to the floor and back, continuously to avoid Plasma Caster hits and bullets, and when I approach my opponent, they would initiate their block, thinking I would either focus attack or light attack, but they're killed using heavy attacks + grabs.
In the Gateway, I take my Sniper Rifle and stand on the wreckage of Marlow, hiding myself in the fire and shoot Predators and Aliens fighting on top of the spawn point of the Combi-Stick, and Aliens hiding on the roof of the building in front of the Refinery in the background.
I also use my Praetorian skin, to scare new players with rank 1 or 2, in dark maps like Pyramid (especially Marines). Most of them thought I was the Queen. I won an Infestation match by killing 3 Marines who were in the lower area, together, by first stalking them for a minute and then going there, killing everyone of them while they just stood there looking at what the hell was making that scary sound. ::)
Quote from: Greedy Fat Xenoborg on Mar 21, 2011, 02:41:09 PM
As a Marine (or a Predator), I counter an Alien's heavy attack, which would later cause them to light attack me, but instead, I block again and counter their light attack and get an easy kill. I can actually blow up Aliens with the Flame Thrower using this technique. :D
that's exactly what you're supposed to do, but i'd say that's a skill rather than a tip or a trick, i just wish i was fast enough to see heavy attacks coming, i'm not so i'll generally dodge and block in the hopes that they'll light attack because my dodging makes HAing too hard.
i use praetorian skin too, but partially because i have no choice, i unlocked it before the patch that took away everyone's XP earning in SP, and i have it activated but if i were ever to disable it i'd have to rank up to get it again, which ain't happening
Quote from: AvatarIII on Mar 21, 2011, 02:50:59 PM
Quote from: Greedy Fat Xenoborg on Mar 21, 2011, 02:41:09 PM
As a Marine (or a Predator), I counter an Alien's heavy attack, which would later cause them to light attack me, but instead, I block again and counter their light attack and get an easy kill. I can actually blow up Aliens with the Flame Thrower using this technique. :D
that's exactly what you're supposed to do, but i'd say that's a skill rather than a tip or a trick, i just wish i was fast enough to see heavy attacks coming, i'm not so i'll generally dodge and block in the hopes that they'll light attack because my dodging makes HAing too hard.
i use praetorian skin too, but partially because i have no choice, i unlocked it before the patch that took away everyone's XP earning in SP, and i have it activated but if i were ever to disable it i'd have to rank up to get it again, which ain't happening
Yeah, I pay attention to the ranks of my opponents, if they are anything above 15, they would Heavy Attack me most of the time, so whenever I see an Alien with rank 17 or 19, I would just melee attack them, in case a newbie player attacks me, I first check by melee attacking them, but if they still use their light attacks, I block and counter, kill and heal. :P
So are you saying you cannot rank up further or something?
i can, i just don't have a lot of time to play AVP, i have too many other games to play, and getting a ranked match is not worth the hassle, and that's assuming you don't get disconnected, or simply lose any xp you have earned which somethimes happens.
Yes, of course, you're the only person from the PS3 Game Night, whose timings correspond with mine. But we've never played. :-X
yeah sorry about that :X this year i have been so engrossed in Dead Space 2 i just haven't played AVP at all, except on the anniversarry of release, and the last few weeks my net has been really screwy at the times i want to play online (it works perfectly before work when i can't play, or on nights when my girlfriend is around so i can't play >:(
Survivalist tip for Aliens:
If you find yourself being fired upon or melee'd by someone from the side or behind whilst performing a TK/SK, or even when you land that killing heavy attack on your opponent, your first thought is to run the hell out of there or try to turn around and attack them. This will just get you killed as there is about a second delay of returning to all four legs and being able to sprint/turn/perform actions again. If you find this happening to you, aim your reticule at a wall whilst still standing on your hind legs and jump. You can jump before the guy you just killed hits the ground. It's faster than running away, makes you far harder to track with a weapon, and you can sprint the second you hit the surface.
When performing an SK or TK, you cannot be stunned until you return to all fours. Chances are that if you have a pred pounding on you from behind and you survive to be able to sprint, the second you do so he's just going to stun you anyway and finish you. While on your hind-legs just as you drop the body, you're free to jump to another surface impervious to stun.
I've lost count the amount of times I've done this, survived only to see the guy that was attacking me, now getting attacked and me being free to jump straight back in there and claim both kills. Works especially well on maps like the Temple, Ruins and Jungle.
This works on the PS3 version. Not sure about others as I've noticed subtle differences like the Pred can be knocked down on PC vers.
Marine:
Shotgun and Rifle are all you need. Shotgun for short range, rifle for long. As a Marine your melee is the most vital thing to master. Whenever you see an Alien on a wall, or a Pred at focus attacking distance, raise your guard. If they focus attack you it's game-over. If they hesitate it means they're likely going to close the distance for a heavy, as soon as they get close enough, release your guard and whack them one. With the shotgun your reticule will focus straight in on them automatically and there is less than a second's difference before you can pull your double-barrel shot which nets you an instant kill. Also good to note is that the Pulse Rifle has about a half-second delay when using melee. Your light attacks and blocks will be slower. While it is a versatile weapon, being good for short and long-range, it fails when you attempt to melee with it.
Predator:
Predators are the gods of this game. If you dis-count the Alien's wall-tailing, they are the strongest in melee. They have the highest health, and overpowered weapons to boot. They also cannot be knocked down on the PS3 and 360 (I think 360) other than VERY rarely with the shotgun.
Plasma Caster and Mines are relatively skill-less weapons so I don't really have any tips for them. The disk and the spear, however, take quite a bit of skill to use to their fullest potential. When I play as a Predator I always go for BOTH weapons. And I use them both together. The best thing about the Disk and Spear combo is that you can use them in tandem with your melee. After throwing the disk you can immediately switch to your spear and throw that too WHILST your disk is bouncing around the place. It's important to note that it doesn't work in reverse order, IE you cannot throw the spear and immediately switch to the disk, but that's okay because that's relatively useless. I'm sure many people have noted that the best way to avoid Plasma Casters or Disk throwers when there is no cover, is to actually jump to the left or right. This makes you significantly harder to hit and Plasma shots will often miss you despite their auto-target. When you throw your disk and they jump to avoid, if you can see where they will land, and are very accurate with the spear, you have a stationery target for about a half-second. Spear = Instant kill. After throwing the spear, with your disk bouncing about, most players will be so busy trying to avoid your weapon onslaught that they're wide open for melee. If you're lucky your disk may even ricochet and kill/stun them before you get to them. It's all about keeping your opponent off balance and giving him multiple things to think about and react to.
General tip:
Never underestimate new players. Lower-ranked players are sometimes MUCH harder to fight than extremely experienced ones. It's the same principle as martial arts really. This is because of unpredictability. Most experienced predators will start with a heavy the second they see you, and will move round to your side. Or they will throw the disk and then focus jump, or whatever us experienced players do. This leads us to get into patterns of dealing with these effective techniques which leaves us vulnerable to the players that will focus jump you and then do 3 light attacks and then a heavy, or a light, heavy, light, light. I've been killed by a lot of new players that got lucky because I expected them to do what I would do if I were in their situation.
Anyway yeah sorry it was so long >.> Hope this helps those of you looking to improve.
QuoteThey also cannot be knocked down on the PS3 and 360 (I think 360) other than VERY rarely with the shotgun.
A Predator (in PS3), can be knocked down if two aliens focus attack it, together.
I, once, counter attacked a Predator as an Alien and it fell down. I've knocked down many predators, alone, by counter attacking them. A Predator planting mines around, can also fall down if, an Alien quickly sprints by the area, triggering all the mines and then coming back for a single light attack. ;)
Same goes for a Predator using a Plasma Caster, if it ends up hitting itself.
If 3-4 marines, together, melee-attack a Predator, it will fall down. :D
As an Alien, sprinting around and jumping from surface to surface helps ALOT. An Alien is all about unpredictability. An army of two (or more) Aliens is indestructible, if they stay together always. I always follow the Praetorian.
A marine can use the flame thrower to set the Alien-Resin in the Refinery, on fire, to light up the area (for a short time) and brush off the darkness. Stealth works for marines too; they can be really-really cold killers with the flash-light off and hiding somewhere, waiting for the enemy. I prefer doing that with a few more marines around.
Yeah you can also knock a Pred down with the shotgun if you double barrel it in a certain way that takes it's health down to the minimal amount without it dying. Never knocked one over on a counter though. I love that you know 3-4 marines can knock one over with melee. It would have been funny watching 4 marines all countering a Pred's heavy and seeing the Pred go flying ;D
Quote from: Aether_Rayne on May 21, 2011, 10:20:06 PM
Yeah you can also knock a Pred down with the shotgun if you double barrel it in a certain way that takes it's health down to the minimal amount without it dying. Never knocked one over on a counter though. I love that you know 3-4 marines can knock one over with melee. It would have been funny watching 4 marines all countering a Pred's heavy and seeing the Pred go flying ;D
It was a Species Team Deathmatch and one of the two Predators wasn't there, probably, and the Marines (including me) tried to melee-kill him to gain XP, since it was a ranked match. ;)
We should try that sometime; check out all the ways a Predator can be knocked down. ;D
One month isn't a necro post right? I missed this topic initially. Anyway this one's for all the marine players out there.
Sidestepping the predator's plasma caster. Oh yeah! I love doing this when it pays off! Seeing that douchebag pred camper over there aiming at me and then I dodge his shots (wasting his charge in the process) and firing at him in between. Seriously this tactic is great against plasma spammers/campers. 'sniff' if only I could see their faces.
Although if they get pissed and actually pluck up the courage to come give you an ass whupping for making 'em waste their precious plasma charges be prepared to get killed or melee 'em up!
Keep your backs to the walls as a marine.
As a predator don't underestimate you opponent. (Happened to me once I was ganged up on by 4 aliens coming from 4 different directions. Which one should I kill?)
Run as fast as you can and don't be afraid to retreat as the alien.
Is there anyway someone can post vids of Alien and Predator light and heavy attacks? Cause I still can't tell the difference between the two in multiplayer, I think I know what they look like but I'm not completely sure. Also, is there a map guide that'll show me all the weapon locations of the multiplayer maps, especially the smartgun?
EDIT:
Quote from: Greedy Fat Xenoborg on Mar 21, 2011, 02:41:09 PM
I also use my Praetorian skin, to scare new players with rank 1 or 2, in dark maps like Pyramid (especially Marines). Most of them thought I was the Queen. I won an Infestation match by killing 3 Marines who were in the lower area, together, by first stalking them for a minute and then going there, killing everyone of them while they just stood there looking at what the hell was making that scary sound. ::)
That's actually a good strategy that I thought up of as well cause it worked on me.
Quote from: predxeno on Sep 02, 2011, 01:58:13 AM
Is there anyway someone can post vids of Alien and Predator light and heavy attacks? Cause I still can't tell the difference between the two in multiplayer, I think I know what they look like but I'm not completely sure. Also, is there a map guide that'll show me all the weapon locations of the multiplayer maps, especially the smartgun?
EDIT:
Quote from: Greedy Fat Xenoborg on Mar 21, 2011, 02:41:09 PM
I also use my Praetorian skin, to scare new players with rank 1 or 2, in dark maps like Pyramid (especially Marines). Most of them thought I was the Queen. I won an Infestation match by killing 3 Marines who were in the lower area, together, by first stalking them for a minute and then going there, killing everyone of them while they just stood there looking at what the hell was making that scary sound. ::)
That's actually a good strategy that I thought up of as well cause it worked on me.
There was a video of EXACTLY that floating around when the Demo came out. I can't find that video anymore. The video showed everything, from moves to counters, and how they look from the first person view and the other points of views.
Damn. I need you to find that vid. Pleeeeeaaaaasssseee.
Quote from: predxeno on Sep 02, 2011, 02:52:42 PM
Damn. I need you to find that vid. Pleeeeeaaaaasssseee.
http://www.2shared.com/audio/R3Ylvunf/SPOTTED_SHADOW_ALIEN_MAR01_05.html (http://www.2shared.com/audio/R3Ylvunf/SPOTTED_SHADOW_ALIEN_MAR01_05.html)
:D
Be sure to download and listen to the .WAV file first! It would add dramatic sense to this post and then you can view the video.
Spoiler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT_sRo41e00#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT_sRo41e00#ws)
The computer I'm on doesn't let me download stuff. :(
Oh well, it's just a sound clip from the game of a marine saying "It's here, it's here!" :)
One problem I'm having as the Alien is that every time I pounce a marine, I know he's on the ground, but I don't know where he is and by the time I find him he has already blown me away with his shotgun.
Quote from: predxeno on Sep 03, 2011, 07:30:02 PM
One problem I'm having as the Alien is that every time I pounce a marine, I know he's on the ground, but I don't know where he is and by the time I find him he has already blown me away with his shotgun.
You don't have to stay on the surface and try to focus attack, if I would have been the marine and saw you, I would give you a chance to focus attack me so that I can block and counter. So if you try to focus attack/pounce at a marine, and it doesn't respond, retreat.
Also, if you have focus-attacked a marine, jump back to the nearest elevated surface, if you're not sure about his whereabouts.
I need help; everyone seems to be able to dodge my plasmacaster when I'm a Predator, but I can't dodge any of their blasts. Anyone know why? ??? Also, other players (Aliens especially) seem to be able to glide over the floor before their heavy attack as they move around me so I can't get a good aim on them yet whenever I do heavy attack, it slows me down and I can't glide as fast as them. Last problem; I seem to be improving my melee fighting, but when I melee should I move towards my enemy as a Marine so I can close the gap or should I just melee right after I block and not worry about closing the distance?
Quote from: predxeno on Sep 05, 2011, 12:53:09 AM
I need help; everyone seems to be able to dodge my plasmacaster when I'm a Predator, but I can't dodge any of their blasts. Anyone know why? ??? Also, other players (Aliens especially) seem to be able to glide over the floor before their heavy attack as they move around me so I can't get a good aim on them yet whenever I do heavy attack, it slows me down and I can't glide as fast as them. Last problem; I seem to be improving my melee fighting, but when I melee should I move towards my enemy as a Marine so I can close the gap or should I just melee right after I block and not worry about closing the distance?
The Plasma Caster shots are not homing, so they can be dodged if you strafe left or right. But be fast, because the damage-radius still might hurt you. As a Predator, if you're far away and try to use the Plasma Caster, there are solid chances that you would miss because it is slow. Lock on to your target for atleast 6-8 beeps, because it's charged and it would be somewhat accurate. Many Alien players tend to jump while heavy attacking because it kinda helps in avoiding being meleed. Sure, it breaks the flow of the gameplay, so I recommend that you avoid using that tactic. >:(
TBH, I don't know about the melee distance. There's so much lag in the game that even I find it difficult to break heavy attacks. I'd suggest you straight away melee an enemy who uses the heavy attack the moment they see you (mostly people of rank 19-30); then, block, because when meleed, the first thing they'd try would be the light attack.
If you have a shotgun or a Sniper Rifle, you don't need to worry about heavy attacks because they break them if you shoot at the enemy.
Also, I'd suggest using fake-pumping, but at an acceptable rate. Do not overuse this gameplay mechanic because, though useful, it ruins gameplay especially for Marines who are struggling in the matches. :)
In the Jungle map, I saw a Predator somehow go inside a tree and snipe from there. I remember that in AVP2000, the City map had a secret room that could be accessed. Is this the same thing here? Also, other Alien players can use a tail attack which doesn't take as much time than the heavy attack; I know both attacks are utilized by the L1 or LB button, but how do I control which one to do?
Quote from: predxeno on Sep 05, 2011, 05:50:19 PM
In the Jungle map, I saw a Predator somehow go inside a tree and snipe from there. I remember that in AVP2000, the City map had a secret room that could be accessed. Is this the same thing here? Also, other Alien players can use a tail attack which doesn't take as much time than the heavy attack; I know both attacks are utilized by the L1 or LB button, but how do I control which one to do?
It is a glitch where the Predator can enter a tree and attack others, while the others cannot attack the Predator. It is a lame attempt to win matches. When someone does that, just ignore them and dodge their attacks, they would then get bored and try to engage in direct combat. That's when you teach them a lesson.
The Aliens can tail whip if they are on any other surface, apart from the ground. It's the same as a Heavy Attack but faster.
People again, misuse it because it is unavoidable. I'd recommend using it only once or twice on an enemy, other than a Marine, because two attacks would give you a cheap unskillful kill, that is the Marine.
You can use it to scare people or get a one-hit kill if you hit the head.
How do I get in the tree as a Predator? (I want to be able to flush out any other Predatorss hidiing there) Also, how can I pounce on an enemy while also using heavy attack rather than light attack? (I want to know this since practically all the other players know how to do this as well)
Quote from: predxeno on Sep 05, 2011, 06:11:52 PM
How do I get in the tree as a Predator? (I want to be able to flush out any other Predatorss hidiing there) Also, how can I pounce on an enemy while also using heavy attack rather than light attack? (I want to know this since practically all the other players know how to do this as well)
I will show you.
There is no way you can flush them out. Though they can fall to their deaths, if they move inside.
QuoteAlso, how can I pounce on an enemy while also using heavy attack rather than light attack? (I want to know this since practically all the other players know how to do this as well)
I don't think pouncing works with heavy attacking. Though there are certain focus attacks that knock enemies down, but from a distance.
Aliens can knock marines down too, but you have to be at a height or something. I still don't know how this works.
Two aliens together can knock down a Predator, using just light focus attacks.
Pouncing and using the heavy attacks, I guess, is what you mean by the jump-attacking. You press the respective attack button along with the jump button.
As a predator/alien and im fighting either a marine, predator or alien up close in melee, I initiate a heavy attack but then quickly put up my block - this fools your opponent into thinking your gonna do a heavy attack so they go and counter it with a light attack but because you've put your block on they hit the block!! - you light attack them and then victory should be yours! I call this a 'fake heavy'
Quote from: Osasuna18 on Sep 09, 2011, 12:15:07 PM
As a predator/alien and im fighting either a marine, predator or alien up close in melee, I initiate a heavy attack but then quickly put up my block - this fools your opponent into thinking your gonna do a heavy attack so they go and counter it with a light attack but because you've put your block on they hit the block!! - you light attack them and then victory should be yours! I call this a 'fake heavy'
It's called fake pumping. :)
Maybe it's just my imagination, but all the players I've used that technique on are too noob to realize what I did. They don't try to counter my heavy attack, they just try to fight as if I didn't do anything.
If people don't react to the fake heavy attack, and continue to shoot you, they are not noob.
Quote from: predxeno on Sep 05, 2011, 06:11:52 PM
How do I get in the tree as a Predator? (I want to be able to flush out any other Predatorss hidiing there) Also, how can I pounce on an enemy while also using heavy attack rather than light attack? (I want to know this since practically all the other players know how to do this as well)
Try to hit the tree with a granade (Marine) or plasma (pred) near to the side of the tree where they stand... and they will fall out of the map.
Thanks, what if I'm Alien, though? I was Alien when I first encountered the guy who used this trick.
Quote from: predxeno on Sep 09, 2011, 04:55:52 PM
Thanks, what if I'm Alien, though? I was Alien when I first encountered the guy who used this trick.
Nothing you can do
;(
Quote from: Marinho on Sep 09, 2011, 06:03:50 PM
Quote from: predxeno on Sep 09, 2011, 04:55:52 PM
Thanks, what if I'm Alien, though? I was Alien when I first encountered the guy who used this trick.
Nothing you can do
;(
Quote from: predxeno on Sep 09, 2011, 04:55:52 PM
Thanks, what if I'm Alien, though? I was Alien when I first encountered the guy who used this trick.
Actuallymy friends I've seen that if you tail whip around the branch where thepredator enetered the tree from,you can cause them to fall into the pit of death, but yes I agree with Marinho Grenades and Plasma = Dead pred in tree :D
Shoot them in the head ;D
I always go for the legs and/or back.
Spoiler
don't eat yellow snow.
Quote from: Marinho on Sep 09, 2011, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: predxeno on Sep 05, 2011, 06:11:52 PM
How do I get in the tree as a Predator? (I want to be able to flush out any other Predatorss hidiing there) Also, how can I pounce on an enemy while also using heavy attack rather than light attack? (I want to know this since practically all the other players know how to do this as well)
Try to hit the tree with a granade (Marine) or plasma (pred) near to the side of the tree where they stand... and they will fall out of the map.
I forget where this tree is. Could someone remind me where it is? Or provide me with a map?
How do I throw a Grenade ? :D I normally go right up to my victim and shoot and punch ;D Unless it's a facehugger. I scream when I see the facehugger :laugh:
Quote from: predxeno on Jan 08, 2012, 03:52:08 PM
Quote from: Marinho on Sep 09, 2011, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: predxeno on Sep 05, 2011, 06:11:52 PM
How do I get in the tree as a Predator? (I want to be able to flush out any other Predatorss hidiing there) Also, how can I pounce on an enemy while also using heavy attack rather than light attack? (I want to know this since practically all the other players know how to do this as well)
Try to hit the tree with a granade (Marine) or plasma (pred) near to the side of the tree where they stand... and they will fall out of the map.
If you stand at the top of the stairs and look down at the room with the plasma in it, it is the large tree just in front and to the left of that room :)
I forget where this tree is. Could someone remind me where it is? Or provide me with a map?
Well, since im more of a Predator fan, the Predator is definately my strong suit. Try to get to a higher ledge and shoot near a marine with the plasma caster so they get confused then finish them off with either the caster, the spear or the good old fashioned way... blades.
I play as predator, i sprint heavy, fake and lunging is good for aliens because it knocks them down, usually only use blades because its fair for other players unless at long range.
My favorite tip to use.. go behind someone.. push X,E or Square button..
Quote from: AcidGlow on May 05, 2012, 02:52:48 PM
My favorite tip to use.. go behind someone.. push X,E or Square button..
lol xD
I noticed that if you're an alien and it gives you the option to trophy kill a predator after countering, don't. They break out of it most of the time, just heavy attack
Quote from: Grid_Life on Mar 24, 2013, 04:37:26 AM
I noticed that if you're an alien and it gives you the option to trophy kill a predator after countering, don't. They break out of it most of the time, just heavy attack
Depends on how much life that still have your oponent. Must consider that trophy kill take away certain amount of life and if your oponent has more than that amount he will release automaticly.
Quote from: Marinho on Mar 26, 2013, 11:41:35 AM
Quote from: Grid_Life on Mar 24, 2013, 04:37:26 AM
I noticed that if you're an alien and it gives you the option to trophy kill a predator after countering, don't. They break out of it most of the time, just heavy attack
Depends on how much life that still have your oponent. Must consider that trophy kill take away certain amount of life and if your oponent has more than that amount he will release automaticly.
Exactly. To note, marines have 3 bars, aliens 4 bars, and preds five bars of health. Light attacks deal one bar of damage, while heavy attacks deal two, and stun your opponent. Marines that are stunned with the heavy attack will never break out. But preds, with 3 bars left, will. Use two heavy attacks simultaneously on a pred, then opt for either light attack or finishing kill.
As a marine, only once have I managed to break out of an alien finishing kill. The player pounced and knocked me down, but probably forgot about the extent of my damage.
Quote from: jedi9061 on Mar 30, 2013, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Marinho on Mar 26, 2013, 11:41:35 AM
Quote from: Grid_Life on Mar 24, 2013, 04:37:26 AM
I noticed that if you're an alien and it gives you the option to trophy kill a predator after countering, don't. They break out of it most of the time, just heavy attack
Depends on how much life that still have your oponent. Must consider that trophy kill take away certain amount of life and if your oponent has more than that amount he will release automaticly.
Exactly. To note, marines have 3 bars, aliens 4 bars, and preds five bars of health. Light attacks deal one bar of damage, while heavy attacks deal two, and stun your opponent. Marines that are stunned with the heavy attack will never break out. But preds, with 3 bars left, will. Use two heavy attacks simultaneously on a pred, then opt for either light attack or finishing kill.
As a marine, only once have I managed to break out of an alien finishing kill. The player pounced and knocked me down, but probably forgot about the extent of my damage.
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Jumping before initiating a heavy attack almost always works for me, but with more success with the alien's focus ability than the predator's. Though you could say it's a noob tactic.
Hiding out in a narrow corridor with a shotgun works against predators most of the time.
I would advise using the smartgun or a grenade against a pack of enemies fighting each other.
Most players nowadays will opt for heavy attacks, so LA or melee them as soon as they come into range.
On a note, you will most frequently encounter in the refinery map predators looming all over the second floor, and aliens in the shadows or on the ceiling on the first floor.