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Posted by NecronomIV
 - Jul 10, 2022, 11:31:12 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 10, 2022, 08:13:44 PMBtw, @NecronomIV,  what have you thought of Covenant ?

(copy and paste a slightly revised post from the Covenant thread. I'm lazy economical  8) )

I'm really interested to see how we'll be feeling about Covenant for it's 10 year anniversary. It seems a good amount of time to be able to step back and judge something. Partly I suppose it will depend on whether the story is actually ever finished.

There's a lot to love about it. For myself, I appreciated the design, look, direction and acting. Didn't really like the story and the direction it went in very much.

If it was its own thing, it would be an easy 5/5. The med-bay scene I was literally biting my nails (the acting and soundtrack were both exceptional there). And I walked out of the theatre thinking it was, in many ways, a bleaker ending than ALIEN 3 (and that's a good thing).

But it's not its own thing; it's part of a larger story. I found some parts sour and unpalatable (no Shaw, David creating the xenomorphs) and unconsidered (absurdly short incubation times) and a lost opportunity (show us a harrowing, strange and alien Engineer society and world, not Ancient Rome Post Holocaust). So I can only really give it 3/5 and feel a little sad about it.
Posted by Kradan
 - Jul 10, 2022, 08:13:44 PM
Btw, @NecronomIV,  what have you thought of Covenant ?
Posted by 426Buddy
 - Jul 10, 2022, 06:44:00 PM


 ;D
Posted by NecronomIV
 - Jul 10, 2022, 07:48:11 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jul 10, 2022, 07:27:29 AMI thought we saw them being packed out carried folded down!

Must have missed that. I saw they were carrying bags, but it's a bit fuzzy in places. They must have left their helmets lying around somewhere as well because they weren't carrying them for a while.
Posted by SiL
 - Jul 10, 2022, 07:27:29 AM
I thought we saw them being packed out carried folded down!
Posted by NecronomIV
 - Jul 10, 2022, 07:18:05 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jul 10, 2022, 06:56:57 AMPrometheus is great fun to watch, but not fun to think about.

I'm still not sure where David got the ladder from (scene where he presses the runes to open the door). Like a cartoon character he seems to have reached off screen to grab it, possibly from one of the carpenters or riggers. :)
Posted by SiL
 - Jul 10, 2022, 06:56:57 AM
Prometheus is great fun to watch, but not fun to think about.
Posted by [cancerblack]
 - Jul 10, 2022, 06:26:46 AM
Finally, someone who can see the flaws but has a genuinely great time with it anyway.
Posted by NecronomIV
 - Jul 10, 2022, 12:28:55 AM
Rewatched this last night for an accessibiltiy project I'm doing.

I still enjoy it immensely. It feels like the first Alien film with a strong idea of what exactly it is since ALIENS.

(Digression: what I mean by this is that ALIEN is a haunted house in space; ALIENS is a war film. Alien 3 is ... ? Alien: Resurrection is ... ? The only answer I have for the latter two is "an alien film" which feels unsatisfactory and, while both films rightly have their fans, it points to a possible source of the flaws in those films).

One thing that leapt out at me is the Juggernaut cockpit, with it's ramp, chair, flute and subsidary controls. That all felt wrong, like an old building that's been retrofitted for accessibility. The original didn't have any of that stuff. Kane had to haul himself up into that space because it wasn't designed for humanoids. David just strolls up the nice wheelchair-friendly ramp. You can even see the Engineers find it awkward, the way one squats to talk about something with the one in the chair. The original didn't need anything like that because the pilot and the ship are clearly indivisible - the pilot never had to leave the chair and stroll about because it was part of the chair

I guess you could make an argument that the Engineers stole the ship/technology and retrofitted it to make it work for themselves.

But I loved it. It's a completely different from what's gone before and opens up possibilities for future directions. Its a great film, perhaps a better science fiction/horror film than an ALIEN film, and maybe the better for it.
Posted by Voodoo Magic
 - Apr 03, 2022, 01:43:22 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 03, 2022, 08:31:54 AM
I'm fine with the design of the Engineers - I always thought the upright elephant man look from the comics was stupid in all honesty - and I still think Prometheus was a shitshow.

I think you meant "hit show"? Darn spell correct!
Posted by Kradan
 - Apr 03, 2022, 08:36:42 AM
Fair enough
Posted by HuDaFuK
 - Apr 03, 2022, 08:31:54 AM
I'm fine with the design of the Engineers - I always thought the upright elephant man look from the comics was stupid in all honesty - and I still think Prometheus was a shitshow.
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
 - Apr 02, 2022, 01:02:55 PM
The Judge Dredd crossover comic has you guys covered:

Posted by 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯
 - Apr 02, 2022, 10:57:48 AM
Come on guys, Riddles already gave you an elephant man in Alien:



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