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“It’s Crazy Not To Do Something With It” – Ridley Scott on Alien under Disney

Talking to Digital Spy in new interview, Sir Ridley Scott spoke about the merger between 20th Century Fox and Disney and his thoughts on the possible continuation of the Alien franchise under the House of Mouse.

“I’m hoping I’ll still probably be there so whether or not they go ahead with such a dark subject, being Disney, as aliens remains to be seen. I think they should because I think, when people have a hard and fast franchise which has ongoing interest, it’s crazy not to do something with it.”

While Disney is not known for directly releasing more adult content like Alien, in the past they have owned companies that have such as Miramax, Dimension Films and Touchstone Pictures. Disney has spoke about retaining Fox Searchlight and Fox 2000 as separate entities following the merger so it’s possible any future Alien or Predator films could be put out under those banners.

On the subject of other R-rated material, Disney’s CEO Bob Iger recently confirmed that there was a place within a Disney owned Marvel universe for more R-rated Deadpool films, saying that: “we think there might be an opportunity for a Marvel-R brand for something like Deadpool. As long as we let the audiences know what’s coming, we think we can manage that fine.” So Disney are definitely open to the R-rated content coming from the merger.

In the interview with Digital Spy Scott also spoke a little more about having a plan for where Alien: Covenant 2 would be heading: “I’m in tune with where Covenant 2 would go. We already know what we’d do with that. You’ve got to have a fundamental platform and target where you would take it. It’s a bit like having the skeleton before the meat goes on.”

Thanks to Ingwar and Whos_Nick for the news. Keep a close eye on Alien vs. Predator Galaxy for the latest on Alien: Covenant and Alien: Covenant 2! You can follow us on FacebookTwitter and Instagram to get the latest on your social media walls. You can also join in with fellow Alien fans on our forums!



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  1. SM
    summed up in four words: 'David made the Alien'. And that contribution undermines the entire franchise.

    hang on a moment ....... what ?
    all we have seen is David bring to life an old science project that was obviously already perfected a long long time ago

    at least 10,000 years according to the movie prometheus .
    has David really created anything ???

    What "10,000 years according to Prometheus"?
  2. Deathbearer
    summed up in four words: 'David made the Alien'. And that contribution undermines the entire franchise.

    hang on a moment ....... what ?
    all we have seen is David bring to life an old science project that was obviously already perfected a long long time ago

    at least 10,000 years according to the movie prometheus .
    has David really created anything ???


    Of course he did because Scott is so in love with David that I'd be surprised if he isn't retroactively responsible for the birth of the f**king universe
  3. prometheusfire29
     summed up in four words: 'David made the Alien'. And that contribution undermines the entire franchise.

    hang on a moment ....... what ?
    all we have seen is David bring to life an old science project that was obviously already perfected a long long time ago

    at least 10,000 years according to the movie prometheus .
    has David really created anything ???
  4. Jones Lives
    “I’m hoping I’ll still probably be there so whether or not they go ahead with such a dark subject, being Disney, as aliens remains to be seen. I think they should because I think, when people have a hard and fast franchise which has ongoing interest, it’s crazy not to do something with it.”

    Does it surprise me that Ridley believes the dark subject matter would be the reason they wouldn't go ahead with the next one?! No! He can't seem to look inward and hold himself accountable for under performing returns. When better fan edits of his own films are made using the scenes he cut, it doesn't inspire confidence in his decision making!
  5. Highland
    $4.2b over three films and overwhelmingly positive reviews = screwed up?

    I dunno man. I'm super interested to see the numbers on the next one. They will naturally be lower, but it does feel like a blow to the universe, there was never this much hate even on the prequels. If Alien didn't turn out the way fans thought it might, Star Wars just said hold my beer.

    Never this much hate?  People are still whining about Jar-Jar and midiclorians nearly 20 years on.

    Jar Jar was annoying and I wasn't a massive fan of the prequels. I don't think I ever said to myself though " I'm not wasting my time on the next one".

    I feel like this is the same problem the Alien universe has suffered only bigger. They write these things like they are part of a story, but there's no story, the next movie has to pick dependant on what the director or the studio calls for.

    Star Wars is a bit more confusing though since it suffers no budget or age restraints like Alien.

    Predator is 100% going to do the same thing. It's practically locked in. There will be Predator language translated by a kid and it'll be a one liner.

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    I haven't seen the new one yet, but The Force Awakens was pretty cool.

    Unfortunately there's not much similarity. TLJ could quite easily be a stand alone movie that happened to have the same characters in it. You might like it, but it's a very different movie from FA. In some way's it actually makes more sense to start the trilogy at TLJ.
  6. SM
    $4.2b over three films and overwhelmingly positive reviews = screwed up?

    I dunno man. I'm super interested to see the numbers on the next one. They will naturally be lower, but it does feel like a blow to the universe, there was never this much hate even on the prequels. If Alien didn't turn out the way fans thought it might, Star Wars just said hold my beer.

    Never this much hate?  People are still whining about Jar-Jar and midiclorians nearly 20 years on.
  7. Highland
    $4.2b over three films and overwhelmingly positive reviews = screwed up?

    I dunno man. I'm super interested to see the numbers on the next one. They will naturally be lower, but it does feel like a blow to the universe, there was never this much hate even on the prequels. If Alien didn't turn out the way fans thought it might, Star Wars just said hold my beer.
  8. The Highlander MacLeod
    With the way Disney screwed up the Star Wars franchise, I'm doubtful they will do the right thing by the Alien & Predator franchises. Only time will tell. 
  9. Biggles
    Ah yes, sorry, I'd forgotten about that. I have to take him at his word, but I don't have much faith that everyone involved shares Mr Seagers's logic or would stick to it in any sequel that happens. The Prometheus juggernaut was also de-biomechanised in production, and that had nowt to do with some plan to later recreate it more faithfully.

    Still, it does follow; either an imperfect recreation by David, or his first original effort that he perfects in the finale.
  10. Biggles
    From our interview with Adam Johnansen - http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/interviews/adam-johansen/

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    AvPGalaxy – The adult Alien seems to lack the biomechanical elements of the original film’s Alien. From what Chris Seagers alluded to in a previous interview, it seems like this was a deliberate choice as the later films will eventually introduce more biomechanical elements into the design?

    Adam Johansen – Yes, Ridley wanted a more animalistic, primal version of the Xenomorph. Not the bio mechanical version we know from the original films.

    Thank you for finding that. However, it's hard to know here what he's saying 'yes' to. I think there's a world of difference between careful and consistent production design and making the Alien a 'flayed man' on a whim because the director thinks it fits the tone of the movie better. I'd lay money on it being Ridley's personal preference only. I very much doubt that they'd bother to follow through on having David upgrade his version with the full biomech treatment. Those of us who would notice or care are a subset of a subset (passionate fans). Realistically, this is like the constant changes to the Klingons in Star Trek; for all intents and purposes the same character, but radically different in the reimagining.

    There was a similar conceit for the damp fleshy Pumpkinhead A:R design of course; human DNA. But in reality it was just ADI & co changing things up based upon personal preference. Same deal here. Except the Covenant interpretation is fantastic IMO. If you're going to change stuff for the sake of it, they did a hell of a job here of making the creature a proper gothic monster, and despite what I just said, an awesome organic forerunner design if anyone does care enough to follow through and biomech it up (grafting on the Engineer suit technology is the obvious way, as others have remarked). I just wish they'd kept the shoulder tubes.

    Anyway, it's academic if we never get the third Ridley movie.
  11. Crazy Shrimp
    I'm staring at one of my Big Chap figures right now. I just can't understand the thinking behind sapping out the bio-mechanical aspect.

    Even if you have a creative or narrative idea behind doing it. It's still basically saying "Let's take one of the most interesting aspects of the design, one of the things that makes it stand out in the crowd, and remove it."

    It's one of the most interesting parts of the design. The pipes, the tubes, the repeating ribbing. One of the biggest losses in my book too are the elegant hands of the original beast. None of the Aliens have had hands quite as cool as the original. All the rest have had really ungainly hands that seem over-sized or ill-proportioned. I just love the details.

    https://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/original/4595207a8243f/Alien-Creature-Hand-1.jpg

    I feel in a similar way when I see the legs and the foots of the original monster. Even if the creature couldn't be able to move quickly and easily with the original design, those legs are elegant in comparison. 

    https://i.imgur.com/kjE8iaJ.jpg
  12. Biomechanoid
    Dude, you just mirrored a joke that I did.

    Dude, I had all confidence you would catch on, eventually.

    But I agree, just move on.

    Moving on, as I had already stated earlier and now again, works for me.

    Even if you have a creative or narrative idea behind doing it. It's still basically saying "Let's take one of the most interesting aspects of the design, one of the things that makes it stand out in the crowd, and remove it."

    100% agree with this and the rest of your post. Some have stated Scott has been an accomplished director, but he is no storyteller.

    This is not the first time he's inserted a gimmick without any rhyme or reason to an already established and professional piece of literature. i.e. Blade Runner and the Deck-a-rep gimmick, which P. K. Dick never endorsed despite die hard fans insisting Dick saw footage and approved. True he saw footage, but it was only scenes of the city, Scott never revealed to Dick he was turning Deckard into a replicant. Dick died before the film was finished.
  13. Crazy Shrimp
    @Biomechanoid, you are making a straw man argument, dude.
    If there was logical fallacy, you might have a point, but the very fact that I simply mirrored what you did, not my problem you failed to comprehend the dose of other-side-of-the-coin. . . . dude.

    Dude, you just mirrored a joke that I did, and since then you have been exaggerating about it. But I agree, just move on.
  14. OpenMaw
    I'm staring at one of my Big Chap figures right now. I just can't understand the thinking behind sapping out the bio-mechanical aspect.

    Even if you have a creative or narrative idea behind doing it. It's still basically saying "Let's take one of the most interesting aspects of the design, one of the things that makes it stand out in the crowd, and remove it."

    It's one of the most interesting parts of the design. The pipes, the tubes, the repeating ribbing. One of the biggest losses in my book too are the elegant hands of the original beast. None of the Aliens have had hands quite as cool as the original. All the rest have had really ungainly hands that seem over-sized or ill-proportioned. I just love the details.

    https://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/original/4595207a8243f/Alien-Creature-Hand-1.jpg

  15. Biomechanoid
    @Biomechanoid, you are making a straw man argument, dude.
    If there was logical fallacy, you might have a point, but the very fact that I simply mirrored what you did, not my problem you failed to comprehend the dose of other-side-of-the-coin. . . . dude.

    So......moving on, I like the criticism description by OpenMaw, pretty much nailed it.....effectively. And thanks Hicks, for providing the film makers' reason for going that direction per Scott's orders, had not seen that. I still prefer the biomechanical style, but I guess Scott wanted a more animalistic look, and that's what they designed for him. I can't fault the designers for accomplishing what they were instructed to do.
  16. maron
    A Biomechanoid design for the xeno next movie? A likely story.   ;D

    You people (Scott and colleagues) cannot fool me any longer. It's probably too expensive, landscapes are much more important, you know?  ;)
  17. Biomechanoid
    I love that shot. There's something really ethereal about how it looks and moves. Shame they can't recapture that.

    100% agree. From the very first viewing that scene has always held my fascination. But this vein of the conversation isn't about how mesmerizing that scene is, it's about how one can reduce any movie creature to animated mockery if one wanted to go that route.

    Personally I see zero effectiveness in going that route to express disdain for a given film aspect, but for some reason film visual/dialogue childish mockery is popular in these forums. Now before anyone flames me about calling it childish, even a mod here recently declared that sort of film mockery is childish and makes the person look like a fool. . . . . . So don't kill the messenger.  ;D
  18. Corporal Hicks
    I understand that David's breed is not complete yet, but I still feel kinda disappointed for the way they handled the creature.

    I understand it too, but I'm not even sure if it is actually the case or if it's something fans just came up with. The film never outright implies that "this is a beta Xeno," and I can't remember Ridley mentioning it. People still say, though, that it isn't the final version of the Alien. I mean, yes, logically it's an early version, but there's honestly nothing to say that it isn't. If you asked the average viewer what they thought, they'd just say it's a Xenomorph.

    It was spoken about during the set visits and some of the post release interviews. I remember one of the producers saying that the lack of biomechanical elements in its design was because they were heading in that direction for future films.

    From our interview with Adam Johnansen - http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/interviews/adam-johansen/

    Quote
    AvPGalaxy – The adult Alien seems to lack the biomechanical elements of the original film’s Alien. From what Chris Seagers alluded to in a previous interview, it seems like this was a deliberate choice as the later films will eventually introduce more biomechanical elements into the design?

    Adam Johansen – Yes, Ridley wanted a more animalistic, primal version of the Xenomorph. Not the bio mechanical version we know from the original films.
  19. OpenMaw
    That gliding shot is one of the coolest shots of the creature in the film.

    As to the Covenant variation of the design. Honestly it just looks like ADI doubled down on their previous designs. All the biomechanics are stripped out. Whether that's intentional or not, it takes away one of the interesting design aspects of the creature. Frankly, we've had enough of the pumpkin-head-o-morphs from A:R, AVP, and Requiem.
  20. PsyKore
    https://78.media.tumblr.com/dd1654fb16f390b5a68f552a0366b668/tumblr_n80krkmiZ61s4nyfho3_r2_500.gif

    I love that shot. There's something really ethereal about how it looks and moves. Shame they can't recapture that.

    I understand that David's breed is not complete yet, but I still feel kinda disappointed for the way they handled the creature.

    I understand it too, but I'm not even sure if it is actually the case or if it's something fans just came up with. The film never outright implies that "this is a beta Xeno," and I can't remember Ridley mentioning it. People still say, though, that it isn't the final version of the Alien. I mean, yes, logically it's an early version, but there's honestly nothing to say that it isn't. If you asked the average viewer what they thought, they'd just say it's a Xenomorph.
  21. Biomechanoid
    Ridley wanted to scare the shit out of people twice, but clearly there were not many merits to achieve this purpose. And the Xenomorph's return can't be more average. Maybe he should have stayed with his previous idea:
    Maybe. Maybe not.

    One thing's for sure. The next time you watch that scene in Alien 79 when the creature starts "gliding," I would bet the farm you will not be able to keep from thinking about Michael Jackson's Moonwalk and you will be cursing under your lip, "that damn Biomechanoid, he forever ruined that scene for me."


    .......oops, I almost forgot Poe's winky........ ;)
  22. Gash
    I'm not sure why you'd refer to what Scott's doing now as "fresh, challenging and subversive" Covenant was such a painfully obvious rehash of Alien, they even rehashed the opening title and score, just for those who still couldn't take the hint. There's nothing challenging about it either. The film consists out of tons of dialogues about creation, but the creator/creation dynamic is never explored in the events that occur in film. If by 'challenging' you were referring to the effort of sitting through pretentious drivel that leads to nothing but literature trivia, then sure, what Scott is doing can be considered as challenging. The one single thing Covenant has to contribute - the sole purpose for its existence - can be summed up in four words: 'David made the Alien'. And that contribution undermines the entire franchise.

    Yep.

    Nope.
  23. Crazy Shrimp
    http://www.scified.com/topics/6319653552923624.gif
    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4gkel316w1qiy0obo1_r2_500.gif

    Heh-heh, well now in all fairness, one could reduce any movie creature to an animated mockery if one were to go that route....... ;)

    https://78.media.tumblr.com/dd1654fb16f390b5a68f552a0366b668/tumblr_n80krkmiZ61s4nyfho3_r2_500.gif
    http://www.scifimoviezone.com/mjmoon.gif

    Ridley wanted to scare the shit out of people twice, but clearly there were not many merits to achieve this purpose. And the Xenomorph's return can't be more average. Maybe he should have stayed with his previous idea:

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    "while Alien was indeed the jumping-off point for this project, out of the creative process evolved a new, grand mythology and universe in which this original story takes place. The keen fan will recognize strands of Alien's DNA, so to speak, but the ideas tackled in this film are unique, large and provocative."

    Now about the gifs in my last reply, next time I will put a winking smiley to avoid any confusion: Poe's law ;)
  24. Crazy Shrimp
    I reckon it is. Also that he was never much into horror to begin with, so I don't think he's kept up with the fact that modern horror audiences are eagerly consuming slower -- or at least more deliberately -- paced films.

    I think, though, is that a bigger problem is he forgot the one key lesson that arguably makes any good horror film effective: keep it f**king simple. He's trying to scare audiences and pontificate on man's place in the universe and hold a discourse on artificial intelligence and it's just too much at once.

    I'm not sure about that. Many of the greatest horror movies are about much more than just the scares, The Exorcist for instance. Maybe its more about the focus, what the primary goal of the film is. Ridley said he wanted to scare us but that doesn't really feel like his primary focus.

    As much as I like them I agree though that Covenant and Prometheus aren't scary. Both films have moments of tension but as you say they don't build up any sense of dread and that's key to making a film truly scary. They don't take enough time to crank up the fear of the unknown and what is to come.

    In addition, in the original film the Alien looks like a psychopathic killer more than a deadly wild animal. In fact, the monster approaches in a slow and extravagant way towards their victims before killing them, even showing a disturbing behavior.

    https://78.media.tumblr.com/dd1654fb16f390b5a68f552a0366b668/tumblr_n80krkmiZ61s4nyfho3_r2_500.gif

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Q_dGAhzCOC8/VHkbyC_ekhI/AAAAAAAAA68/hwobIDffIkU/s1600/lamber.jpg

    Agreed, that behaviour was reduced in the sequels but the animal with rabies completely missed the mark in Covenant imo. The alien in Isolation was was a but too animalistic as well (the stomping the sounds), being a videogame have it's limitations and it did have some dope and some graceful animations.

    I understand that David's breed is not complete yet, but I still feel kinda disappointed for the way they handled the creature.

    http://www.scified.com/topics/6319653552923624.gif
    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4gkel316w1qiy0obo1_r2_500.gif
  25. D. Compton Ambrose
    Because there are layers and themes, mostly presented in the art and design of the film. We all know that.

    Yet the story is still about a space monster murdering truckers. That's the core of the film, and everything is in service to that. That's what makes it simple.

    Where you're getting the idea that simple means shallow, superficial, or inferior I don't know.

    Yes, it is ultimately about the Xenomorph. The prequels are not, but they should be.
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