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“I think AI is Becoming Much More Dangerous” – Ridley Scott On Future Alien Films

In a new article from Entertainment Weekly, Sir Ridley Scott has made some new comments about what direction he sees future Alien films going in. As well as confirming that he is still working on another Alien film, Scott re-affirms some of his recent comments about the shift of focus towards artificial intelligence in the films.

“We are [going to make another], we are,” Scott told EW from the set of All the Money in the World. “I think what we have to do is gradually drift away from the alien stuff.” Say what? Scott’s Alien: Covenant, which came out earlier this year, felt like a return to some legit old-school scares but failed to set the domestic box office ablaze (though, combined with international sales, it ended with north of $240 million in ticket revenue). “People say, ‘You need more alien, you need more face pulling, need more chest bursting,’ so I put a lot of that in Covenant and it fitted nicely. But I think if you go again you need to start finding another solution that’s more interesting. I think AI is becoming much more dangerous and therefore more interesting.”

Since Covenant’s release, Scott has since started to say these things of thing again. Scott most recently commented that he thought “the beast has almost run out and prior to this he also spoke about how he thought the focus would shift more onto artificial intelligence.

While it’s unclear if these particular comments came during principal photography on All The Money In the World or during the recent reshoots, Scott’s latest film is due for release later this month so Scott will soon be making the promotional rounds so we may start to hear a little bit more about what progress has been made on the sequel to Alien: Covenant.

Back in September, 20th Century Fox CEO Stacey Snider also spoke about the future of the Alien series, saying that she “trust[ed] Ridley [Scott] and Emma [Watts] to know the right story when they find it. When universes are as rich as “Alien,” they can stay in a too familiar groove — in which case you’re in trouble — but they can also find a planet or a storyline or a villain that also lives in that universe that can be groundbreaking.”

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  1. BishopShouldGo
    Not because of that lol.

    There were just many male performances this year that were superior than David and Walter. And if Fassbender didn't even get nominated for his superior Prometheus-David 8 performance...
  2. Alionic
    At best, the prequels are average, i.e., given ratings and revenues. Given that, it's obvious another movie will have to be much better.

    I think it will take some time for the prequels to be fully appreciated for what they are, much like Alien 3's popularity, which was pretty low at the time of release, but has risen to cult status over time.

    I agree. One of the things that will help it will be Fassbender's dual role as Walter and David.

    This article talks about how Fassbender deserves Oscar consideration due to his performance. http://www.indiewire.com/2017/12/michael-fassbender-alien-covenant-best-actor-1201907210/

    That was an excellent read. I wouldn't be surprised if Fassbender gets nominated by the Academy, at least.
  3. 0321recon
    At best, the prequels are average, i.e., given ratings and revenues. Given that, it's obvious another movie will have to be much better.

    I think it will take some time for the prequels to be fully appreciated for what they are, much like Alien 3's popularity, which was pretty low at the time of release, but has risen to cult status over time.

    I agree. One of the things that will help it will be Fassbender's dual role as Walter and David.

    This article talks about how Fassbender deserves Oscar consideration due to his performance. http://www.indiewire.com/2017/12/michael-fassbender-alien-covenant-best-actor-1201907210/
  4. Biomechanoid
    There are so few discussions regarding symbolism and theory.
    What do you think of the symbolism and the theories for Alien Covenant?

    Honestly to me there wasn't much really.

    Only speculating, perhaps then that is why there are so few discussions regarding symbolism and theory for Alien Covenant? Others possibly feel the same way you do. Mystery solved? Maybe, maybe not.

  5. Denton Smalls
    The good news is there's only 2-3 people on here that seem to take personal offense to any criticism, constructive or otherwise, to Scott's prequels. The bad news is they flood the comment sections relentlessly so there might as well be 100 of them.

    This is a joke, right? Vocally, these forums are overwhelmingly against Scott's prequels. Look at the polls, though; most people here like Prometheus and Covenant.

    It can certainly appear that the forums are overwhelmingly against Scott's prequels, if you approach the topic on the defensive. An objective view would reveal that it's not the case.

    I'm glad most people apparently like both prequels. That's how more are made. I'd rather read about and discuss future films for better of worse, rather than not have any Alien films to talk about at all.
  6. DorkiDori
    Therein lies the problem with Covenant. Too many folks arguing over if it was good or not. There are so few discussions regarding symbolism and theory.
    What do you think of the symbolism and the theories for Alien Covenant?

    Honestly to me there wasn't much really. It was all pretty straight forward outside of Davids Lab and what transpired between Shaw and David during their trip aaaaand what exactly happened to Shaw. I do realize "The Crossing" and "Advent" existed to explain some of what went on. But honestly, that entire 10 years deserves its own film (or book... Like we SHOULDVE gotten). Its a story all unto itself that could've been very creepy and very disturbing (much like an actual Alien film).

    The first movie had a lot of open ended questions which made it fun. Covenant was pretty much cleaned up with the short film "Advent". Outside of the Shaw/David arc, the film didn't really create as many questions or conversations that Prometheus did.
  7. SM
    Not sure where 'overwhelming' comes from. I see that most people like them but aren't blind to the faults. Which is reflected in the polls. Of course some relentlessly shit can it and someone defend it no matter the criticism. While often prolific, they're at the extremes and in the minority.
  8. Alionic
    The good news is there's only 2-3 people on here that seem to take personal offense to any criticism, constructive or otherwise, to Scott's prequels. The bad news is they flood the comment sections relentlessly so there might as well be 100 of them.

    This is a joke, right? Vocally, these forums are overwhelmingly against Scott's prequels. Look at the polls, though; most people here like Prometheus and Covenant.
  9. DorkiDori
    Lots of handbags flying about in here eh!

    That's been the Covenant threads since its release. I can't recall one news article related to Covenant that didn't devolve into a playground fight over whether it's good or not.


    Therein lies the problem with Covenant. Too many folks arguing over if it was good or not. There are so few discussions regarding symbolism and theory. Prometheus had a bit of arguing over certain aspects of the film, however, the bulk of conversations had about the film were usually about some sort of detail deconstruction... Be it the engineer murals in the urn room, the bas relief of the Deacon in the urn room, what exactly the accelerant (black too) was, were the engineers on LV226 a different faction versus the ones we saw at the beginning, etc etc... See where I'm going? Covenant has only really lead to conversations about it being "good" or bad and really just making comparisons to previous films to justify personal feelings about the film as a whole. Prometheus was questioned for the better part of 5 years after until the release of Covenant.

    There was a very big difference between these two films and their outcome of output for years after from fans.
  10. Maron
    I wish Ridley Scott would at least weaken the androids.
    The fight between David vs. Walter was similar to T-800 vs. T-1000
    Do you remember Parker almost decapitating Ash with an extinguisher?  Ash should take much more damage, considering him being a newer android than Walter, not even talking about David.

    Nothing makes sense what Riddles does lately. Best director of our time?
  11. Denton Smalls
    The good news is there's only 2-3 people on here that seem to take personal offense to any criticism, constructive or otherwise, to Scott's prequels. The bad news is they flood the comment sections relentlessly so there might as well be 100 of them.

    The prequels are fine in their own way, just like the original films are fine in theirs. I'm sure when those came out pre-internet, there was similar backlash, it just wasn't as apparent. I'm reserving judgment until the final film gets released, because the way that's handled can have a retroactive effect on the previous two.

    Just to play devil's advocate, why is it that any detractors of the prequels are automatically proponents of Neill Blomkamp?

    Also, why do certain people act like they know exactly what Blomkamp's sequel was going to be about in relation to the continuous referencing of queens, pulse rifles, power loaders, etc? I wasn't aware that there was a script floating around the internet, and judging from Ridley's comments, neither was he.

    All I saw was some preliminary concept art that was created before the guy was even officially commissioned to work. Between pulse rifle accusations, check out the very well-stocked concept art gallery for A:C on this site and compare the art to how much we actually saw in the finished movie.
  12. genocyber
    The core of Alien was always about symbolizing the unknown mystery of space, and the lurking horrors that lie within it. That their is hostile life that exists that is far more dangerous and sophisticated than humanities darkest nightmares could conceive. The prequels neutered their existence as mad science experiments that we helped create ruined the entire mystique of them. Their origin did not need to be tied to humanity, nor did having another evil A.I. obsess over them. It's a retread of the first Alien film with the character of Ash, but more gratuitous. The character of Bishop was far more interesting than anything we've seen of David by far.

    Ok, so in other words you want this:

    http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhorrornews.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F07%2FIt-The-Terror-from-Beyond-Space-1958-Movie-6.jpg&hash=85d154e14255b89c0321d42d7768ea47

    That's the creature from It!  The Terror From Beyond Space (1958)

    "unknown mystery" -check
    "hostile life" -check
    "dangerous and sophisticated" -check
    "origin not tied to humanity" -check
    "nothing to do with A.I." -check
    Sounds like a winner to me. Yes.
  13. monkeylove
    Perhaps something like this, but involving the previous Alien movies and foreign viewers, especially those from Asia:

    Millennials don’t really care about classic movies

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    A new survey polling 1,000 millennials and 1,000 Americans over the age of 50 conducted by FYE.com, reveals that looking back into the history of cinema isn’t the preference of youth today, with millennials exponentially more likely to have binged on films of the last 15 years than on classics from bygone eras.

  14. Scorpio
    Prometheus and Alien Covenant I would argue are better than Alien and Aliens.

    There's a reason why all this hate for Ridley's prequel films has come out of the woodwork.  Prometheus had a mixed critical reception, yes, but was still a huge box office success.  The promise of another movie like Aliens appears to have certain segments of the population satisfied with nothing but this coming to fruition.

    This encapsulates it all, really:

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cAQGAOPu1k0/hqdefault.jpg

    Not that everyone is like that, but if you don't acknowledge this trend you are basically ignoring the elephant.
  15. Huggs
    Funny, you get into discussions about divisive things like this, but then you can't help but notice how many people agree about the quality of the original movies. That they could be enjoyable to so many people with such differing opinions about the art of filmmaking is a testament to the hard work that was put into them and how cool they were and still are.
  16. Deathbearer
    "Opinions. You have bad ones"

    That's cool. I respect your opinion as well. But unfortunately, the reaction to Prometheus was not completely positive, and covenant didn't break any box office/applause records. It's getting difficult to call this the right financial and literary path for the Alien universe. Movie making is a business after all.

    You conveniently ignore the part where both made a profit for the studio.

    Then why do you want Blomkamp's film made, grandpa?

    I don't care if it gets made or not. Good try though, might have worked on someone else.

    So now you're changing your opinion on Blomkamp's film? I am known to be persuasive.  ;D

    Don't give yourself too much credit, it was Scott that convinced me the beast is cooked.
  17. monkeylove
    Interestingly, people under 18 rate both movies higher than the rest, and millenials actually rate the movie lower than (8.2) than oomers (8.5, 8.4). The difference isn't huge though. We must look for something else.

    I'd see the same point if the data can be broken down by region, if the age of the ones giving the ratings can be verified, if we can see what percentage of those who saw the last two movies saw the first two, etc.

    All I know for now is that the foreign share of revenues for A:C is almost 70 pct and similar to the previous three movies. For the first two movies, it was the other way round.
  18. SM
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    Not always. Prometheus didn't work. So they did it again, only worse.

    The majority would beg to differ, which would tend to indicate that the majority don't want movie after movie of 'well written haunted house film in space'.

    That and Aliens wasn't really a haunted house and Alien 3 wasn't terribly well written.
  19. Alionic
    "Opinions. You have bad ones"

    That's cool. I respect your opinion as well. But unfortunately, the reaction to Prometheus was not completely positive, and covenant didn't break any box office/applause records. It's getting difficult to call this the right financial and literary path for the Alien universe. Movie making is a business after all.

    You conveniently ignore the part where both made a profit for the studio.

    Then why do you want Blomkamp's film made, grandpa?

    I don't care if it gets made or not. Good try though, might have worked on someone else.

    So now you're changing your opinion on Blomkamp's film? I am known to be persuasive.  ;D
  20. Huggs
    "Opinions. You have bad ones"

    That's cool. I respect your opinion as well. But unfortunately, the reaction to Prometheus was not completely positive, and covenant didn't break any box office/applause records. It's getting difficult to call this the right financial and literary path for the Alien universe. Movie making is a business after all.
  21. Deathbearer
    So, the same thing over and over?

    Have we considered the possibility that this franchise doesn't need more films?

    Then why do you whine for more pulse rifles, action sequences, and Alien Queens all the time?

    I have never whined for this. It's okay, you probably didn't notice since you gotta keep watching over your shoulder to make sure that those nasty Aliens-loving Millennials don't get you.

    I'm an "Aliens-loving millennial," you nincompoop; however, I don't want a remake of it.


    Neither do I grandpa, so it looks like we can agree on something after all.

    As shocking as this may seem there are other reasons to dislike Covenant besides a distinct lack of pulse rifles and Hudsons.
  22. Alionic
    So, the same thing over and over?

    Have we considered the possibility that this franchise doesn't need more films?

    Then why do you whine for more pulse rifles, action sequences, and Alien Queens all the time?

    I have never whined for this. It's okay, you probably didn't notice since you gotta keep watching over your shoulder to make sure that those nasty Aliens-loving Millennials don't get you.

    I'm an "Aliens-loving millennial," you nincompoop; however, I don't want a remake of it.

    The Alien prequels are like that. Prometheus was like Salvation, darker and different. Covenant was like Genisys, the android fight scene alone, geez. Which leaves the next Alien to be like T3, god help us all.
    Anyone else remember Scott Weiland's solo album? Yeah, that's the David saga. Somebody with a desire to make money at Fox needs to tell Ridley what that couple in Planes Trains and Automobiles said, "You're going the wrong way".

    Opinions. You have bad ones.
  23. Huggs
    "So, the same thing over and over? "

    Not always. Prometheus didn't work. So they did it again, only worse. But there's a reason the first 2 or 3 films are as enjoyable and respected as they are. They had the right formula and they followed it. The proof as they say, is in the pudding. Alien and Aliens vs. Prometheus and Covenant. It's so one sided it's cruel. Sometimes a good rhythm is found, and it's not the end of the world if something stays the same. Quite frankly, as bad as these films are getting, I think they need to leave well enough alone at this point. The original films will never be topped, and cannot be equaled because every space movie has to be "interstellar" now, and screw the old ways.

    Gibson's Alien 3 or Fincher's Alien 3 probably should have been considered the final word. But I'm just a person with their own opinion and a firm believer in the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" school of thought. Gracious, the terminator series lost me when Arnold became the good guy. How and why that was allowed I'll never know. T2 was okay, but look at the mess that series has been in ever since.

    The Alien prequels are like that. Prometheus was like Salvation, darker and different. Covenant was like Genisys, the android fight scene alone, geez. Which leaves the next Alien to be like T3, god help us all.
    Anyone else remember Scott Weiland's solo album? Yeah, that's the David saga. Somebody with a desire to make money at Fox needs to tell Ridley what that couple in Planes Trains and Automobiles said, "You're going the wrong way".
  24. Deathbearer
    So, the same thing over and over?

    Have we considered the possibility that this franchise doesn't need more films?

    Then why do you whine for more pulse rifles, action sequences, and Alien Queens all the time?

    I have never whined for this. It's okay, you probably didn't notice since you gotta keep watching over your shoulder to make sure that those nasty Aliens-loving Millennials don't get you.


    Doesn't mean they shouldn't make them though.

    Alien: Resurrection might beg to differ
  25. Deathbearer
    So, the same thing over and over?

    Have we considered the possibility that this franchise doesn't need more films? That the story is over and there's nothing else they can do with it? They aren't ever going to top the first two films. It's not happening. Now it's about philosophy and androids instead of aliens and honestly I'm not sure how we got to that.
  26. Huggs
    "What is an Alien film supposed to feel like?"

    Well, this is merely my opinion. But, here goes.

    Long Version: In the distant future, moderate to decently intelligent human beings on board a large ship/station (nostromo/sevastapol) or futuristic installation (not bedrock or cavemanville) encounter a dormant alien organism and become infected. They spend the entirety of the film being hunted by a rapidly evolving creature of a very hostile nature that is rarely shown. Its intelligence and movements are not shown and rarely discussed, and it avoids the light at all costs. In the style of "ten little Indians" the group of humans is whittled down to main characters, culminating in a slow-building showdown between the last human survivor or survivors and the creature itself. It is not necessary that any of the cast survives the film. Like jaws, it is the absence of the creature that creates the tension. The audience identifies with the characters, together in one room, while somewhere out there, something horrifying is building its home and thinking of ways and opportunities to violently destroy. The only A.I. present is of little to moderate use, and any hostile tendencies are quickly resolved and not the focal point of the film. It doesn't wind up fighting an upgraded version of itself (terminator) in a room full of stone and torches (scorpion king). There are no religious humanoid civilizations, no robed figures, no foliage, no planet full of questionable events and sights that are never questioned by the cast. etc. etc. It is teeth and metal and darkness.

    Short Version: Well written haunted house film in space. There is no grandiose philosophical mission statement on who we are or where we are headed technologically or as a society. The characters are realistically intelligent and relatable. The film actually features the creature and it is taken seriously. It is a frighteningly dark and uncompromising depiction of violent interstellar contact with a hostile alien species, not the napoleanic aspirations of an over-eloquent and bisexual android. It is not the "David" show. It is an alien movie.

    That being said, if these awful prequels must continue then I'm rooting for David and I hope he conquers the universe. Judging by what we've seen so far, the human species in these movies has become truly stupid and mean spirited, and must not be allowed to spread beyond the earth. All hail the king.
  27. Scorpio
    The core of Alien was always about symbolizing the unknown mystery of space, and the lurking horrors that lie within it. That their is hostile life that exists that is far more dangerous and sophisticated than humanities darkest nightmares could conceive. The prequels neutered their existence as mad science experiments that we helped create ruined the entire mystique of them. Their origin did not need to be tied to humanity, nor did having another evil A.I. obsess over them. It's a retread of the first Alien film with the character of Ash, but more gratuitous. The character of Bishop was far more interesting than anything we've seen of David by far.

    Ok, so in other words you want this:

    http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhorrornews.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F07%2FIt-The-Terror-from-Beyond-Space-1958-Movie-6.jpg&hash=85d154e14255b89c0321d42d7768ea47

    That's the creature from It!  The Terror From Beyond Space (1958)

    "unknown mystery" -check
    "hostile life" -check
    "dangerous and sophisticated" -check
    "origin not tied to humanity" -check
    "nothing to do with A.I." -check
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