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Alien: Covenant Struggles in US Box Office

When Alien: Covenant finally hit the big screens in the United States, it opened with a fairly strong $36 million. It was on the lower end of the predicted take (around $40 million) but it was still reasonable.

Despite fairly favorable critic reviews (currently certified Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes with a 71% rating), unfortunately for 20th Century Fox and fans eager to see more of Alien: Covenant’s story direction, the film’s momentum didn’t last long.

According to an article shared by Forbes last Friday, Alien: Covenant’s taking dropped a massive 80% in its second week in the States which would put it in the top 10 of the biggest second week drop-offs of all time.

 Alien: Covenant Struggles in US Box Office

Providing an update on the box office situation yesterday, Deadline reported that the latest Pirates of the Caribbean and Baywatch released to much higher numbers in the States.

Grossing another $10.8M from 77 markets, Fox and Ridley’s Scott’s Alien: Covenant just crossed the $100M threshold after experiencing some decent holds in certain markets — Russia is still No. 2 in the market in its sophomore frame after pulling in another $1.1M this weekend, for instance.

Likewise in Germany, it’s held on well for the No. 3 spot in its second weekend where it grabbed $914K. In the UK, it took in about $939K (weekend 3) and in France $914K (also week 3).

Remember, this one still has yet to bow in China or Japan, which it will do on June 16 and Sept.. 15, respectively. Overall, it has a cume after this weekend of $101M. Its global take is $161.5M.”

It would seem that Alien: Covenant is performing better worldwide, having taken in over $100 million, but it’s looking likely that Alien: Covenant is going to struggle to read the $80 million mark in the States. It’s not looking good for Alien: Covenant or any of the potential sequels Ridley Scott has spoken about previously.

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  1. PierreVW
    I remembered an old interview where Ridley Scott talked about Von Danniken and his theories.

    Ridley Scott was interested in Von Danniken and his theories since a long, very long time ago.

    I did a Google search for Von Daniken and his theories Ridley Scott.

    The earliest link I could find with this search was a Hollywood Reporter article from June 28, 2011 about a "Prometheus" press event at CineEurope.
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ridley-scott-michael-fassbender-noomi-206321

    From the article;

    Quote
    The British director said the film's storyline, and script ... was partially inspired by the writings of legendary Swiss sci-fi writer Eric van Daniken.

    But 2011 is after 2009.
    In 2009 Spaihts made his pitch for the "Alien" prequel.

    Spaihts has said as I've posted;

    Quote
    my first thought was that these ancient giants must have been the von Daniken‑style aliens who some believe helped to shape ancient civilizations, and raise our early monuments, and, perhaps, even to shape the development of the species itself.

    https://gointothestory.blcklst.com/interview-part-1-jon-spaihts-5cf713ab14c4

    Again, Spaihts made his pitch to Fox and Scott in 2009.
    Spaihts' first idea was to tie the Space Jockey with Von Daniken's concepts.

    Spaihts has claimed that he came up with connecting these ideas from Von Daniken and the Engineers.
    Ridley AFAIK has not contracted that.

    * Back to the design language of "Prometheus". It includes human looking space aliens and classic architecture / motifs from ancient times.
    The origin of putting those design concepts into "Prometheus" it seems comes from the ideas/scripts from Spaihts.

    ;)

    You could be right.

    Because Ridley Scott wasn't interested in PROMETHEUS at the beginning. Carl Rinsch was the first Director. FOX fired him. FOX only wanted Ridley Scott.
  2. bb-15
    I remembered an old interview where Ridley Scott talked about Von Danniken and his theories.

    Ridley Scott was interested in Von Danniken and his theories since a long, very long time ago.

    I did a Google search for Von Daniken and his theories Ridley Scott.

    The earliest link I could find with this search was a Hollywood Reporter article from June 28, 2011 about a "Prometheus" press event at CineEurope.
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ridley-scott-michael-fassbender-noomi-206321

    From the article;

    Quote
    The British director said the film's storyline, and script ... was partially inspired by the writings of legendary Swiss sci-fi writer Eric van Daniken.

    But 2011 is after 2009.
    In 2009 Spaihts made his pitch for the "Alien" prequel.

    Spaihts has said as I've posted;

    Quote
    my first thought was that these ancient giants must have been the von Daniken‑style aliens who some believe helped to shape ancient civilizations, and raise our early monuments, and, perhaps, even to shape the development of the species itself.

    https://gointothestory.blcklst.com/interview-part-1-jon-spaihts-5cf713ab14c4

    Again, Spaihts made his pitch to Fox and Scott in 2009.
    Spaihts' first idea was to tie the Space Jockey with Von Daniken's concepts.

    Spaihts has claimed that he came up with connecting these ideas from Von Daniken and the Engineers.
    Ridley AFAIK has not contracted that.

    * Back to the design language of "Prometheus". It includes human looking space aliens and classic architecture / motifs from ancient times.
    The origin of putting those design concepts into "Prometheus" it seems comes from the ideas/scripts from Spaihts.

    ;)
  3. Evanus
    The problem with A-list stars is that they so darn expensive. .i like Fassbender but at the same time he might be a bit pricey. .waterston and mcbride can't be that expensive. .the later usually only apear in fairly low budget comedy fair and waterstan is'nt that well known yet. .but they might end up as alien incubators. .so in that case. .get a fresh faced newbie actress a try. .
    Actually, I read somewhere that Fassbender doesn't ask that much for his roles.
  4. PierreVW
    I hate to say I told you so but it did tell the so called experts about 40 pages back this film is not a flop until the fat lady sings (Chinese box office).
    It's time to call it, the film is not a flop. It's not a hit and I had any money to invest in a sequel I wouldn't do it. If I was an investor with Fox I would say put my money into the Cartel film Ridley has planned but don't put it into another Alien film as it's ever decreasing returns based on the last two films.
    Besides as a Ridley Scott fan I want to see him do something original for him. I want to see Cartel channeling Tony Scott. Ridley told NZ Stuff h has 10 films left in him (http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/92454786/Alien-Covenant-Milford-Sounds-big-moment-in-the-Hollywood-spotlight) and I would rather he go out in a blaze of glory making something that can live up to Gladiator or Kingdom Of Heaven Directors Cut than an even lower budget Alien film

    Page 39 of thread:
    "It can't be called a flop until all the receipts are in. Resident Evil The Final Chapter was deemed a flop but then opened to 90+ million weekend in China going on to make 160 million there. That's now the biggest film of the series and so big they are doing an immediate reboot.

    I don't for one second preditct AC will do that in China but then I never would have said RE TFC would make 90 mil opening.

    You never know, so it's a little early to pronounce it as a flop. Wait until it's hit the full set of markets then call it a flop"

    I agree 100%.

    Actually, I'm more excited for 3 other Ridley Scott options: BATTLE OF BRITAIN, WRAITHS OF THE BROKEN LAND and THE CARTEL.
  5. juxtapose
    The problem with A-list stars is that they so darn expensive. .i like Fassbender but at the same time he might be a bit pricey. .waterston and mcbride can't be that expensive. .the later usually only apear in fairly low budget comedy fair and waterstan is'nt that well known yet. .but they might end up as alien incubators. .so in that case. .get a fresh faced newbie actress a try. .
  6. dkwookie
    . .if Vin Diesel could finance the last Riddick movie for 38 mil. .then i think Ridley can do a sequel to covenant for 70 - 80 mil. .keep it on the covenant and kill david in the opening scene. .or do whatever it takes. .i just want that darn sequel. .i guess 250 is still in reach with japan coming up. .it will probably make at least another 5 - 10 mil before the end of it's china run. .prom made over 20 mil in japan. .so me i still hope. .lol

    . .i don'r care if he does the cartel. .whatever. .their some other movie his doing as well. .as long as we get a sequel. .and if he only acts as producer. .then so be it. .better than no sequel at all. .

    I think 250 is where it's going to end up, which given the budget is not bad. If I were Ridley I would produce the next one with a smaller budget and an up and coming horror director. Maybe the guy who made Lights Out. Just get it back to the horror roots again with an A list B movie
  7. juxtapose
    . .if Vin Diesel could finance the last Riddick movie for 38 mil. .then i think Ridley can do a sequel to covenant for 70 - 80 mil. .keep it on the covenant and kill david in the opening scene. .or do whatever it takes. .i just want that darn sequel. .i guess 250 is still in reach with japan coming up. .it will probably make at least another 5 - 10 mil before the end of it's china run. .prom made over 20 mil in japan. .so me i still hope. .lol

    . .i don'r care if he does the cartel. .whatever. .their some other movie his doing as well. .as long as we get a sequel. .and if he only acts as producer. .then so be it. .better than no sequel at all. .
  8. dkwookie
    I hate to say I told you so but it did tell the so called experts about 40 pages back this film is not a flop until the fat lady sings (Chinese box office).
    It's time to call it, the film is not a flop. It's not a hit and I had any money to invest in a sequel I wouldn't do it. If I was an investor with Fox I would say put my money into the Cartel film Ridley has planned but don't put it into another Alien film as it's ever decreasing returns based on the last two films.
    Besides as a Ridley Scott fan I want to see him do something original for him. I want to see Cartel channeling Tony Scott. Ridley told NZ Stuff h has 10 films left in him (http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/92454786/Alien-Covenant-Milford-Sounds-big-moment-in-the-Hollywood-spotlight) and I would rather he go out in a blaze of glory making something that can live up to Gladiator or Kingdom Of Heaven Directors Cut than an even lower budget Alien film

    Page 39 of thread:
    "It can't be called a flop until all the receipts are in. Resident Evil The Final Chapter was deemed a flop but then opened to 90+ million weekend in China going on to make 160 million there. That's now the biggest film of the series and so big they are doing an immediate reboot.

    I don't for one second preditct AC will do that in China but then I never would have said RE TFC would make 90 mil opening.

    You never know, so it's a little early to pronounce it as a flop. Wait until it's hit the full set of markets then call it a flop"
  9. PierreVW
    - I'd just like to add a recent name who has had an influence on the prequel designs, Jon Spaihts.
    Spaihts in his scripts came up with the classic Greek/Roman sculpture look of the Engineers. And that opened up the design range of the Engineer's buildings / art to include classic ancient earth motifs (giant head sculptures/statues, Renaissance style ceiling painting).   

    "Engineers" was a f**king awful script.  his other films have all been terrible.  passengers was a f**king nightmare.

    It's fine if you believe that Spaihts is a bad writer.
    But a "bad" writer can come up with a new idea.

    Or did Ridley suggest all those idea and Spaiht just worked them into the script?   

    I give Spaihts zero credit...

    I can't find evidence that Ridley came up with the original idea of the Engineer's look and their classic earth style architecture as seen in "Prometheus" and "Covenant".
    But Spaihts claims that he thought of the Engineers as looking human and that they helped develop ancient architecture on earth. 

    Quote
    Given the age of the wreck as it’s characterized in the first Alien movie, my first thought was that these ancient giants must have been the von Daniken‑style aliens who some believe helped to shape ancient civilizations, and raise our early monuments, and, perhaps, even to shape the development of the species itself.
    I imagined them as the Engineers who fomented sentient life on earth and then schooled that life into their own image, both cognitively and physically. I suppose the closing idea was that that elephantine alien face of the space jockey was merely a mask. Underneath it, to our astonishment, it would be revealed that they looked like us. Or, perhaps more accurately, that we looked like them.
    https://gointothestory.blcklst.com/interview-part-1-jon-spaihts-5cf713ab14c4

    * Spaihts claims that he came up with these ideas.
    And I can't find anything where Ridley contradicts that.

    * Going back to the design style of the Alien prequels which includes; the shrine/head room, the Engineer city, with their ancient earth designs.
    And the Engineers looking human, (as they made humanity in their own image).
    This design language seems to come from Spaihts' scripts/proposals. 

    ;)

    Ridley Scott said in interviews that he believes that Aliens like the Enginners created us. It's his theory but he believes in them.

    Ridley Scott doesn't believe in Gods. He believes in All Powerful Aliens. So, I suppose PROMETHEUS were created around his beliefs/ideas.

    Imo it is a matter of when ideas were proposed and who came up with those ideas at what time.
    - The earliest press interviews by Ridley about "Prometheus" come from a few months before the film was released. These interviews were in early 2012 or late 2011.
    - But Spaihts made his pitch to Fox and Scott in 2009. That would be when Spaihts originated the ideas about the Engineers which were new to the franchise and then he began writing his scripts.
    - I cannot find an interview/commentary by Scott before 2009 where he states that the Space Jockey was an Engineer who looked human and that these Engineers helped create life on earth, humanity and ancient earth culture.
     
    ;)

    I remembered an old interview where Ridley Scott talked about Von Danniken and his theories.

    Ridley Scott was interested in Von Danniken and his theories since a long, very long time ago.
  10. bb-15
    - I'd just like to add a recent name who has had an influence on the prequel designs, Jon Spaihts.
    Spaihts in his scripts came up with the classic Greek/Roman sculpture look of the Engineers. And that opened up the design range of the Engineer's buildings / art to include classic ancient earth motifs (giant head sculptures/statues, Renaissance style ceiling painting).   

    "Engineers" was a f**king awful script.  his other films have all been terrible.  passengers was a f**king nightmare.

    It's fine if you believe that Spaihts is a bad writer.
    But a "bad" writer can come up with a new idea.

    Or did Ridley suggest all those idea and Spaiht just worked them into the script?   

    I give Spaihts zero credit...

    I can't find evidence that Ridley came up with the original idea of the Engineer's look and their classic earth style architecture as seen in "Prometheus" and "Covenant".
    But Spaihts claims that he thought of the Engineers as looking human and that they helped develop ancient architecture on earth. 

    Quote
    Given the age of the wreck as it’s characterized in the first Alien movie, my first thought was that these ancient giants must have been the von Daniken‑style aliens who some believe helped to shape ancient civilizations, and raise our early monuments, and, perhaps, even to shape the development of the species itself.
    I imagined them as the Engineers who fomented sentient life on earth and then schooled that life into their own image, both cognitively and physically. I suppose the closing idea was that that elephantine alien face of the space jockey was merely a mask. Underneath it, to our astonishment, it would be revealed that they looked like us. Or, perhaps more accurately, that we looked like them.
    https://gointothestory.blcklst.com/interview-part-1-jon-spaihts-5cf713ab14c4

    * Spaihts claims that he came up with these ideas.
    And I can't find anything where Ridley contradicts that.

    * Going back to the design style of the Alien prequels which includes; the shrine/head room, the Engineer city, with their ancient earth designs.
    And the Engineers looking human, (as they made humanity in their own image).
    This design language seems to come from Spaihts' scripts/proposals. 

    ;)

    Ridley Scott said in interviews that he believes that Aliens like the Enginners created us. It's his theory but he believes in them.

    Ridley Scott doesn't believe in Gods. He believes in All Powerful Aliens. So, I suppose PROMETHEUS were created around his beliefs/ideas.

    Imo it is a matter of when ideas were proposed and who came up with those ideas at what time.
    - The earliest press interviews by Ridley about "Prometheus" come from a few months before the film was released. These interviews were in early 2012 or late 2011.
    - But Spaihts made his pitch to Fox and Scott in 2009. That would be when Spaihts originated the ideas about the Engineers which were new to the franchise and then he began writing his scripts.
    - I cannot find an interview/commentary by Scott before 2009 where he states that the Space Jockey was an Engineer who looked human and that these Engineers helped create life on earth, humanity and ancient earth culture.

    Also, notice what Spaihts says in the interview quote that I posted.
    "my first thought"

    Jon Spaihts has taken ownership of these ideas and I can't find where Ridley contradicts this claim by Spaihts.
     
    ;)
  11. PierreVW
    - I'd just like to add a recent name who has had an influence on the prequel designs, Jon Spaihts.
    Spaihts in his scripts came up with the classic Greek/Roman sculpture look of the Engineers. And that opened up the design range of the Engineer's buildings / art to include classic ancient earth motifs (giant head sculptures/statues, Renaissance style ceiling painting).   

    "Engineers" was a f**king awful script.  his other films have all been terrible.  passengers was a f**king nightmare.

    It's fine if you believe that Spaihts is a bad writer.
    But a "bad" writer can come up with a new idea.

    Or did Ridley suggest all those idea and Spaiht just worked them into the script?   

    I give Spaihts zero credit...

    I can't find evidence that Ridley came up with the original idea of the Engineer's look and their classic earth style architecture as seen in "Prometheus" and "Covenant".
    But Spaihts claims that he thought of the Engineers as looking human and that they helped develop ancient architecture on earth. 

    Quote
    Given the age of the wreck as it’s characterized in the first Alien movie, my first thought was that these ancient giants must have been the von Daniken‑style aliens who some believe helped to shape ancient civilizations, and raise our early monuments, and, perhaps, even to shape the development of the species itself.
    I imagined them as the Engineers who fomented sentient life on earth and then schooled that life into their own image, both cognitively and physically. I suppose the closing idea was that that elephantine alien face of the space jockey was merely a mask. Underneath it, to our astonishment, it would be revealed that they looked like us. Or, perhaps more accurately, that we looked like them.
    https://gointothestory.blcklst.com/interview-part-1-jon-spaihts-5cf713ab14c4

    * Spaihts claims that he came up with these ideas.
    And I can't find anything where Ridley contradicts that.

    * Going back to the design style of the Alien prequels which includes; the shrine/head room, the Engineer city, with their ancient earth designs.
    And the Engineers looking human, (as they made humanity in their own image).
    This design language seems to come from Spaihts' scripts/proposals. 

    ;)

    Ridley Scott said in interviews that he believes that Aliens like the Enginners created us. It's his theory but he believes in them.

    Ridley Scott doesn't believe in Gods. He believes in All Powerful Aliens. So, I suppose PROMETHEUS were created around his beliefs/ideas.
  12. bb-15
    - I'd just like to add a recent name who has had an influence on the prequel designs, Jon Spaihts.
    Spaihts in his scripts came up with the classic Greek/Roman sculpture look of the Engineers. And that opened up the design range of the Engineer's buildings / art to include classic ancient earth motifs (giant head sculptures/statues, Renaissance style ceiling painting).   

    "Engineers" was a f**king awful script.  his other films have all been terrible.  passengers was a f**king nightmare.

    It's fine if you believe that Spaihts is a bad writer.
    But a "bad" writer can come up with a new idea.

    Or did Ridley suggest all those idea and Spaiht just worked them into the script?   

    I give Spaihts zero credit...

    I can't find evidence that Ridley came up with the original idea of the Engineer's look and their classic earth style architecture as seen in "Prometheus" and "Covenant".
    But Spaihts claims that he thought of the Engineers as looking human and that they helped develop ancient architecture on earth. 

    Quote
    Given the age of the wreck as it’s characterized in the first Alien movie, my first thought was that these ancient giants must have been the von Daniken‑style aliens who some believe helped to shape ancient civilizations, and raise our early monuments, and, perhaps, even to shape the development of the species itself.
    I imagined them as the Engineers who fomented sentient life on earth and then schooled that life into their own image, both cognitively and physically. I suppose the closing idea was that that elephantine alien face of the space jockey was merely a mask. Underneath it, to our astonishment, it would be revealed that they looked like us. Or, perhaps more accurately, that we looked like them.
    https://gointothestory.blcklst.com/interview-part-1-jon-spaihts-5cf713ab14c4

    * Spaihts claims that he came up with these ideas.
    And I can't find anything where Ridley contradicts that.

    * Going back to the design style of the Alien prequels which includes; the shrine/head room, the Engineer city, with their ancient earth designs.
    And the Engineers looking human, (as they made humanity in their own image).
    This design language seems to come from Spaihts' scripts/proposals. 

    ;)
  13. Scorpio
    Resurrection only made twice it's budget, that's why it was rebooted.

     If you look at it from an accounting perspective, Alien made 10X it's budget, Aliens made 7X it's budget.  Then Alien 3 makes only 3X it's budget.  Diminishing returns had set in by this point.  But AVP, AVPR and Prometheus all made back 3X their budget.  So, if you were an investor, you'd expect to make 3 dollars for every 1 dollar spent.

    Merchandising is a whole different deal.
  14. remember
    Remember if your comparing this to resurrection's entire box office and using inflation, don't forget to inflate the budget, which would be around 147 million dollars, not including marketing, perhaps not the best comparison. The home market seems more vibrant these days too, people buying laser disc and VHS possible wasn't much profit back then, plus resurrection is a terrible movie.
  15. Kane's other son
    It's nonsense. There's a general rule that a movie has to earn twice its production budget in order to enter the realm of profitability.
    However, we lack a lot of information: We don't know the marketing budget, presales to foreign territories, licensing fees, projections for TV rights and home video sales, or the added value to the franchise as a whole by Covenant.
  16. Kane's other son

    With Percy it looks like they get double their budget back.  Alien is different, though, the profit ratio needs to be 3 to 1,  based on how the previous films performed.  So Covenant needs to make another 60 mil or so (from 220 mil).

    The performance of previous movies in a franchise have nothing to do with how much money the most recent installment has to make in order to be profitable. the only thing determining that is return of investment. If the new movie ends up bringing in more money than it cost to make, it's by default profitable.
  17. D. Compton Ambrose
    Because since Alien 3 every Alien film (except Resurrection) made 3x their budget back.  Alien and Aliens were big earners and the franchise will never reach those heights again (?).

    Now with Resurrection, we know that led to a 7 year hiatus and a reboot with the AVP films.  As of right now, Covenant is at Resurrection numbers which isn't good.

    Soft reboot and retcon incoming (2024 probably).
  18. juxtapose
    ooooh f**k. .it better be big in japan then. .but also bear in mind weavers age?. .she was always keen on another, but far as i remember she would only return if they provided her with a decent script that did not take place on earth. .end of resurrection made it look like they were heading straight here. .plus ridley and cameron had plans for alien 5 and decided to let it go the moment fox greenlit the offensive low budget crap known as avp. .which imo saved the predators from obscurity and did nothing but nearly ruin the alien franchise. .
  19. Scorpio
    Because since Alien 3 every Alien film (except Resurrection) made 3x their budget back.  Alien and Aliens were big earners and the franchise will never reach those heights again (?).

    Now with Resurrection, we know that led to a 7 year hiatus and a reboot with the AVP films.  As of right now, Covenant is at Resurrection numbers which isn't good.
  20. Scorpio
    i might have mentioned this before in another thread. .but it's been awhile and i don't think i eloborated much. .anyway a fair comparison in regards to another fox franchise. .Percy Jackson first movie cost 95 mil and earned 226 worldwide, very close to what covenant is currently at and Percy got a sequel made, in 2013 it was made at a cost of 90 mil and earned 200 mil at the box office. .bringing the franchise to a screeching halt. .so i think their is hope for a covenant sequel based on those numbers. . ?

    . .so if covenant can just make it to about 240. .then i think a sequel is more than justifiable. . .

    With Percy it looks like they get double their budget back.  Alien is different, though, the profit ratio needs to be 3 to 1,  based on how the previous films performed.  So Covenant needs to make another 60 mil or so (from 220 mil).
  21. fiveways

    - I'd just like to add a recent name who has had an influence on the prequel designs, Jon Spaihts.
    Spaihts in his scripts came up with the classic Greek/Roman sculpture look of the Engineers. And that opened up the design range of the Engineer's buildings / art to include classic ancient earth motifs (giant head sculptures/statues, Renaissance style ceiling painting).   


    Or did Ridley suggest all those idea and Spaiht just worked them into the script?   

    I give Spaihts zero credit.  "Engineers" was a f**king awful script.  his other films have all been terrible.  passengers was a f**king nightmare.
  22. 426Buddy
    Right?! It seems like the Alien series is in legitimate danger from getting snatched up by Disney!

    Not that I can see.
    The Alien franchise is owned by Fox and I can find no news where Fox is going to sell the franchise to Disney.

    The only connection between Disney and the Alien franchise is with a ride at Walt Disney World (in Florida) called "The Great Movie Ride".
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Movie_Ride

    Disney acquired the licensing rights to "Alien" for a ride. And that's the limit of Disney's control of the franchise.

    ;)

    That was a fun ride, i got the chance to go there when i was 9. I hope they have updated it though because it was pretty basic.
  23. bb-15
    Right?! It seems like the Alien series is in legitimate danger from getting snatched up by Disney!

    Not that I can see.
    The Alien franchise is owned by Fox and I can find no news where Fox is going to sell the franchise to Disney.

    The only connection between Disney and the Alien franchise is with a ride at Walt Disney World (in Florida) called "The Great Movie Ride".
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Movie_Ride

    Disney acquired the licensing rights to "Alien" for a ride. And that's the limit of Disney's control of the franchise.

    ;)
  24. Salt The Fries
    At least we would presumably get a modern take on the original Giger design in all its biomechanical glory. I'm always game for a new Alien film that will at least be entertaining.

    People clamor for him and want more Giger. The guy is dead. I liked him in Alien, the work he did, but I also like Mobius, Scott, Cobb, O'Bannon and everyone else who worked on that movie. It's not just Giger. His design for the alien was great, but it was made in stages, and didn't Shusset come up with the look for the facehugger? Yeah, it's a pretty suit, and the Jockey was based off a painting of Giger's, and the ship was something Scott and Giger worked on, together.

    It'd be nice if he had more opportunities before he passed to work more in film, but the fact of the matter is is he was a private European artist who had a chance to work on a handful of films, but mainly didn't work in film. He was an artist before he was a filmmaker. The fact that he got chosen to work on Alien at all was a miracle (you can thank Scott for that one). I'll take what I get from Scott and company at this stage because frankly that's what we're going to get.


    The guy's dead. I don't want more of him, because, well, again, dead as a door nail.

    Don't forget Carlo Rambaldi who created hydraulics for the Alien's head.
  25. BishopShouldGo
    Sad to hear they're not getting the full film. Censorship is (in and of itself) a vile thing. I don't personally think Scott's steering this towards some large-scale intergalactic showdown. Unless the series gets handed to another director, such as Cameron or N.B., I don't see the Colonial Marines appearing on film in a significant way anytime soon, if ever again. This is, after all, a cash business. And unless it's got marvel or Disney attached to it, the love of the fan base only counts so much. A hard lesson was learned from King Arthur this year, and the reduced intake for covenant over Prometheus won't exactly help either. Perhaps it's time to get off this road of trying to keep everything intrinsically linked together. Maybe the only common link needed is the creature itself. They're ancient, and they're out there, everywhere. Plenty of different stories to be told. You don't need the company or Ripley to always be involved. Maybe reference other future films with wreckage and bones, but keep the blood fresh and release the kraken.

    Or just have Jack Sparrow in an ironman suit swinging wonder woman's sword at a mummified Barbosa in the Mechanical Batsuit from D.O.J. while onboard a Juggernaut that's hurtling towards the sun and being chased by the guardians. And have tom cruise running, it doesn't matter where.


    How about Scott's intention to make Haldeman's 'Forever War' into a movie?  He's been wanting to make a 'large scale intergalacitic showdown.' for years  You better believe it.  That's exactly where this is heading.

    As for Disney touching this property lol.  If you think the Chinese censors removing content was bad enough, then can you imagine what the Disney cut of any 'ALIEN' movie would be like? 

    Say goodbye to any violence, sexual references, androids kissing...  Say goodbye to anything remotely suggestive - fachuggers would be gone, no phallic Aliens allowed... at all.  It would be worse than Chinese censorship version because no one will get to see the movie the way it was intended because like you say, Disney is a business and Disney will only tackle safe bets for lowest common denominator audiences.  They make kids shows and 'ALIEN' is not a safe bet or child friendly.   

    f**k Disney.  Never, ever let them near anything of any real value unless you want to entertain children and family friendly audiences with mediocre content.  f**k that. 

    "I say we should nuke Disney and their PG13 friendly market from orbit.  It's the only way to be sure."

    -Windebieste.

    Right?! It seems like the Alien series is in legitimate danger from getting snatched up by Disney! YUCK! I hate how popular their stupid critically acclaimed content is.
  26. bb-15
    ... I also like Mobius, Scott, Cobb, O'Bannon and everyone else who worked on that movie. It's not just Giger. His design for the alien was great, but it was made in stages, and didn't Shusset come up with the look for the facehugger? Yeah, it's a pretty suit, and the Jockey was based off a painting of Giger's, and the ship was something Scott and Giger worked on, together...

    That's the core idea, the designs in the Alien franchise were a team effort.
    I agree with your list of all these contributors.
    - I'd just like to add a recent name who has had an influence on the prequel designs, Jon Spaihts.
    Spaihts in his scripts came up with the classic Greek/Roman sculpture look of the Engineers. And that opened up the design range of the Engineer's buildings / art to include classic ancient earth motifs (giant head sculptures/statues, Renaissance style ceiling painting).   

    - The Alien film design language is a mixture of the efforts of many creative people.

    ;)
  27. Huggs
    Seeing a true Giger-world on film would be amazing, but it'll likely never happen outside of the videogame arena. I'd love it if it turned out that the Giger-world played "Hell" to Covenant's "Paradise", and it was from this biomechanical hell that the xenomorph actually originated. But again, having panic stricken scientists or marines run into a large biomechanical womb only to be surrounded by walls full of black death might not have an easy time getting the green light.
  28. NickisSmart
    At least we would presumably get a modern take on the original Giger design in all its biomechanical glory. I'm always game for a new Alien film that will at least be entertaining.

    People clamor for him and want more Giger. The guy is dead. I liked him in Alien, the work he did, but I also like Mobius, Scott, Cobb, O'Bannon and everyone else who worked on that movie. It's not just Giger. His design for the alien was great, but it was made in stages, and didn't Shusset come up with the look for the facehugger? Yeah, it's a pretty suit, and the Jockey was based off a painting of Giger's, and the ship was something Scott and Giger worked on, together.

    It'd be nice if he had more opportunities before he passed to work more in film, but the fact of the matter is is he was a private European artist who had a chance to work on a handful of films, but mainly didn't work in film. He was an artist before he was a filmmaker. The fact that he got chosen to work on Alien at all was a miracle (you can thank Scott for that one). I'll take what I get from Scott and company at this stage because frankly that's what we're going to get.


    The guy's dead. I don't want more of him, because, well, again, dead as a door nail.
  29. Predaker
    I really don't think the lackluster BO performance of Covenant will stop FOX dead in their tracks on a sequel. With Ridley Scott at the helm and a decent pitch, they'll keep on truckin'.

    However, at this point we don't really need any more prequels. There isn't a whole lot to offer up other than rehashing the themes already present in Prometheus/Covenant, cementing David as the progenitor beyond any "reasonable doubt," and some cute action sequences that shoehorn this new series directly into ALIEN (S.O. 937 and all.)

    At least we would presumably get a modern take on the original Giger design in all its biomechanical glory. I'm always game for a new Alien film that will at least be entertaining.
  30. juxtapose
    i am sick of hoping. .i just wanne know already. .!. .i think the odds are good for a sequel. .but oh well if fox does'nt wanne make another then so be it. .it looks like percy is getting a tv series. .not that i care. .but in the event of no sequel. .then a tv series would be the next best thing. .
  31. bb-15
    i might have mentioned this before in another thread. .but it's been awhile and i don't think i eloborated much. .anyway a fair comparison in regards to another fox franchise. .Percy Jackson first movie cost 95 mil and earned 226 worldwide, very close to what covenant is currently at and Percy got a sequel made, in 2013 it was made at a cost of 90 mil and earned 200 mil at the box office. .bringing the franchise to a screeching halt. .so i think their is hope for a covenant sequel based on those numbers. . ?

    . .so if covenant can just make it to about 240. .then i think a sequel is more than justifiable. . .

    I think your prediction from those production budget / box office numbers makes sense.
    Eventually imo Fox will give the approval for another Alien prequel movie.
    But the new film will have a lower budget than "Covenant".

    The new movie will complete an Alien prequel trilogy which I expect Fox will package as a set with special edition versions.

    ;)
  32. gantarat
    Well,Percy Jackson it's movies base from novel, people can go find the book and read them if sequel movie didn't get made.

    but Covenant it's prequel movie that lead to original movie and story in the movie not connect to original yet (end with cliffhanger)

    i don't think fox would let prequel story end like this (unless they do sequel in comic or novel)
  33. juxtapose
    i might have mentioned this before in another thread. .but it's been awhile and i don't think i eloborated much. .anyway a fair comparison in regards to another fox franchise. .Percy Jackson first movie cost 95 mil and earned 226 worldwide, very close to what covenant is currently at and Percy got a sequel made, in 2013 it was made at a cost of 90 mil and earned 200 mil at the box office. .bringing the franchise to a screeching halt. .so i think their is hope for a covenant sequel based on those numbers. . ?

    . .so if covenant can just make it to about 240. .then i think a sequel is more than justifiable. . .
  34. PierreVW
    I dunno. The Black Hole had some freaky bits in it.

    The Black Hole was made in the 1980s.

    30 YEARS AGO. DiFFERENT Disney. DIFFERENT World.

    You DON'T SAY?

    46 year old Pete Postlethwaite outran a xenomorph.

    Xeno was playing, it would have snapped him in half in a split second if it wanted to like Jude.

    Jude outran it too.  And Kevin.

    The fact is Disney changed.

    You fight about nothing.
  35. SM
    I dunno. The Black Hole had some freaky bits in it.

    The Black Hole was made in the 1980s.

    30 YEARS AGO. DiFFERENT Disney. DIFFERENT World.

    You DON'T SAY?

    46 year old Pete Postlethwaite outran a xenomorph.

    Xeno was playing, it would have snapped him in half in a split second if it wanted to like Jude.

    Jude outran it too.  And Kevin.
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