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Last night Empire shared the subscriber exclusive Alien: Covenant cover via their Twitter (h/t to Pvt. Himmel for posting). That issue is now arriving through subscribers mailboxes this morning and thanks to Alien vs. Predator Galaxy community member Gazz we have some images of the new article. And it’s full of new stills and information. Beware spoilers.

The new stills include the scene shown at CinemaCon where David bombs the Engineer city, the Neomorphs and a newborn Alien. The article itself is also full of new information, including some comments from John Logan about returning back to the Alien, the Covenant’s original destination being a planet called Origae-6 and plenty more!

“Ridley Scott soon returns to the Alien universe he began in 1979 with the latest instalment: Alien: Covenant. To mark the occasion, we’ve welcomed the iconic xenomorph back to the cover of the world’s biggest movie magazine. As usual, Empire subscribers are getting their own limited edition design; here’s what will be landing on their doormats this month.

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  1. Stanley
    Unused for Prometheus, there were additional heads.

    I wonder how they compare and if there are other examples of artistic concepts that did not make it.   Curious if there will be more murals for instance, like in the vase room. 
  2. ReluctantNerd
    So is the black goo quantumly entangled with all the other black goo/xenos for the Engineer's bioweapon catastrophe to have happened simultaneously across the galaxy?
    And yeah, space jesus still haunts us...
  3. cliffhanger
    it really only complicated things more, without it making any sense whatsoever.

    there is no way on earth 'Jesus' can be described as an 'engineer' in any way whatsoever, which would make it more the silly indeed.
    interestingly though, 2000 years ago the Roman era was alive and kicking, and i can't but help feel it's rather coincidental that the 'enginumans' from the paradise planet live in a rather roman-like influenced civilization - even though there are quite the high-rise skyscrapers, too.

  4. St_Eddie
    Jesus as an Engineer was an idea that was tossed around but ultimately discarded IIRC. There is a reference to the concept in the Spaihts draft of what became Prometheus but it's mentioned in kind of a joking, dismissive way.

    I suspect that Ridley Scott still considers 'Jesus was an Engineer' as being canonical because of the carbon dating reference in 'Prometheus' ("2000 years old"); implying that it was humanity crucifying an Engineer embassy which pissed off the Engineers and made them want to wipe us out.  However, he chose not to make it overt because and I quote, "it was too on the nose".  It's all very silly, in my opinion.
  5. acidreign
    Jesus as an Engineer was an idea that was tossed around but ultimately discarded IIRC. There is a reference to the concept in the Spaihts draft of what became Prometheus but it's mentioned in kind of a joking, dismissive way.
  6. Adorianu
    Didn't Scott tie in the Engineers' plan to destroy humanity with specific events occurring on earth at that time or am I off base on that?

    The crucifixion of Jesus, if you'd like.

    That's what I thought. Must have been an Engineer emissary!

    Jesus was Engineer? xD hmm so he probably looked like that:


    http://i.imgur.com/wmbfFej.jpg
  7. kwisatz
    Didn't Scott tie in the Engineers' plan to destroy humanity with specific events occurring on earth at that time or am I off base on that?

    The crucifixion of Jesus, if you'd like.

    That's what I thought. Must have been an Engineer emissary!

    I remember something about Scott deciding against having it that explicit within the film but the implication is still there for those who'd like it.

    Dont forget this Jesus impersonator:

    http://illuminatiwatcher.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/IlluminatiWatcherDotCom-Prometheus8.jpg
  8. Predaker
    Didn't Scott tie in the Engineers' plan to destroy humanity with specific events occurring on earth at that time or am I off base on that?

    The crucifixion of Jesus, if you'd like.

    That's what I thought. Must have been an Engineer emissary!

    I remember something about Scott deciding against having it that explicit within the film but the implication is still there for those who'd like it.
  9. rabidranger
    Heres another theory, engineers wanted to wipe  out humanity,, they were becoming few in numbers, and with not enough engineers to control what they created they decide to destroy., why? Because we are hostile and there would be no way for them to defend themswlves if we came looking.. on the other hand im sure they tried to tweak the black goo into something they could benefit from. but it went wrong.. the infection turned bad killing off what was left of them 2,000 years ago. To use it on humanity would mean they could study it more after they see what it can do to us. Also destroying us could be to protect their work since they slowly dying out.

    Didn't Scott tie in the Engineers' plan to destroy humanity with specific events occurring on earth at that time or am I off base on that? I take it the result of that plan would be similar to what happens to the inhabitants of Paradise at the hand of David?
  10. Elder-wolf
    Heres another theory, engineers wanted to wipe  out humanity,, they were becoming few in numbers, and with not enough engineers to control what they created they decide to destroy., why? Because we are hostile and there would be no way for them to defend themswlves if we came looking.. on the other hand im sure they tried to tweak the black goo into something they could benefit from. but it went wrong.. the infection turned bad killing off what was left of them 2,000 years ago. To use it on humanity would mean they could study it more after they see what it can do to us. Also destroying us could be to protect their work since they slowly dying out.
  11. ElCanadianmatador
    They should never had shown the Backbuster derioudly this is a stupid decision by the marketing team. This could hae been such a good surprise in theater... but no.
  12. SpeedyMaxx
    I know what I'd do (and how I'd fix any future David problem), but I'm keeping that in a drawer. I just wish they hadn't so wasted the opportunities of the ending of the previous film, in spite of its flaws. But I suspect this one will be considerably more popular with the public, and that's their interest.
  13. Necronomicon II
    Yeah often it's the banal reason, then rationalized as something else; elaborate 'maybes', perhaps the elders select for the truly exceptional engineers to seed worlds, create beasties, etc, where everyone else is left toiling, creating monuments and engaging in libations. You know what they'll probably release some blu-ray extra with an engineer bible explicating their entire history, religion, etc, since it seems that David will be the focus from here on out. I'm hoping for some other 'big bad', but I won't hold my breath.
  14. SpeedyMaxx
    Frankly it's perfectly fine to expect some level of variation among the engineers owing to different environments and climates if they're a deep space traveling species, there seems to be some evidence of hierarchy to some degree as well given the statues and heads.

    Possible, yes. But I think the biggest reason for the change is simple and banal, as has been mentioned by others - budget. Easier to mock up a bunch of heads in a crowd scene with less overt makeup.

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    As for what could potentially happen on 426 with David's shenanigans, I like the idea of David finding the derelict pretty much the same way Kane and co did obviously minus the eggs, I very much agree with speedy that Prometheus contextualised the fate of the derelict pilot, however given Scott's trajectory with coming into the "backend" of Alien then I just have no idea how they're going to approach it at this stage.

    I just feel that Scott now views this new 'trilogy' (or whatever it ends up being) as David's story - his narrative, his journey. And I can understand that; David as played by Fassbender is a fascinating character gifted with a magnetic actor. Scott is clearly infatuated with David. But I don't feel that means it has to be David's journey through the immediate past of Alien in which he suddenly becomes the change agent that puts the entire franchise into motion. I think that's silly and diminishes the original film. I also find what they are apparently doing with David to be severely reducing his complexity to that of another black had mad scientist.

    I don't like the idea of David creating the alien, or seeding the ship. I find the idea that those eggs only turned up 20 years prior to Alien to be incredibly silly, just as I find the idea of an android only making the alien 20 years before to be silly. YMMV of course, but I wanted to explain why I feel Scott has taken this approach. I just find it so unneeded.
  15. Necronomicon II
    Frankly it's perfectly fine to expect some level of variation among the engineers owing to different environments and climates if they're a deep space traveling species, there seems to be some evidence of hierarchy to some degree as well given the statues and heads. Each citizen would have a role to play and I very much doubt that they'd all be involved with utilizing dangerous biology/tech, there'd all still be the same species however.                                                                                                                                                                                                                            As for what could potentially happen on 426 with David's shenanigans, I like the idea of David finding the derelict pretty much the same way Kane and co did obviously minus the eggs, I very much agree with speedy that Prometheus contextualised the fate of the derelict pilot, however given Scott's trajectory with coming into the "backend" of Alien then I just have no idea how they're going to approach it at this stage. I'm hoping they dive deep into Giger's works and cook up something insane, but yeah, I have no idea, I guess time will tell.
  16. cliffhanger
    No, i did not assume Shaw was mutaded or stabbed, on the contrary actually. so you're assuming and judging rather wrong there.

    I don't care they call them deadgineers. doesnt prove anything.

    'looks and performs'. David looks like a human but is an android.
  17. SpeedyMaxx
    lol, some mentiones in articles that people wrote with their hands tied for not spoilering, and production crewmembers that likewise can't reveal spoilers and simply said understandable stuff.

    They called them 'deadgineers', dude.

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    and just fyi, i don't care if they are or are not engineers. i do have aproblem with stating assumptions - which can be very wrong - as fact.

    Was it you who assumed Shaw was a mutant/queen or being stabbed based on weird angles in that Home TV spot?

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    like the persistant stubborn self-glorification acts to label the scorpionaut as a 'docking station', without end.

    Maybe people call it that because it looks and performs like a docking device. Not 'the one Engineer ship we will definitely see escaping so I am not deeply disappointed by this plot twist.'
  18. cliffhanger
    lol, some mentiones in articles that people wrote with their hands tied for not spoilering, and production crewmembers that likewise can't reveal spoilers and simply said understandable stuff.

    keep concluding stuff from sources you can't do anything with.

    and just fyi, i don't care if they are or are not engineers. i do have aproblem with stating assumptions - which can be very wrong - as fact.

    like the persistant stubborn self-glorification acts to label the scorpionaut as a 'docking station', without end. i like what has been mentioned by another member. 'stop trying to make ......happen'. jeesh.
  19. SpeedyMaxx
    But if David creates the Alien, the Engineer couldn't have died millenia ago with a cargo hold full of eggs. That's the question being raised: if David makes the Alien, who's in the chair?

    Oh, we misunderstood each other; I was actually talking about who was in the chair if David didn't do it.

    But since you asked the other question, I think the same answer is actually possible for both instances. Based on what Scott is now gabbing about in the press I'd suspect David doesn't just create/remake the alien, he also fabricates the eggs which end up in the hold on the derelict. He goes to LV-426 and puts them there or works on the existing material on-site. The jockey does not necessarily have to be relevant to that. It's entirely possible he can simply find a dead Engineer onboard that ship in the chair - as in, the jockey - just like the Prometheus expedition found the dead Engineers on 223.

    That being said, yes, I'm now fearing Scott won't just have David perfect the alien, he'll have someone (like maybe even David himself, as some sort of ironic fate) in the suit, in the chair, as the jockey. Doesn't matter who at the moment. I don't like the idea but I think it's very possible this will happen in future. Personally I'd prefer they not touch it.

    -There is no way of knowing, so there is no way of saying it like it's fact.

    The production crew and multiple preview audiences have told you it is Engineers. This is the opposite of 'no way of knowing.' You don't want to believe it because you don't like what you hear. That's not anyone's fault.

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    "shaw is dead"

    -again, nobody knows for sure.

    See above response re: previews.
  20. Adorianu
    Those are NOT the Engineers. 

    The Engineers in Prometheus had big alien-ish eyes with large glowing Black Iris. And their skin was very translucent. That's the major prominent differentiation.

    The men in jute clothing are a different race of Humans the Engineers created. They seem to be in an ancient roman civilization stage like that of Earth humans. Their skin colour is close to humans on Earth and not at all like the Engineers.

    The Engineers in Prometheus decided to end all human race they ever created including on Earth and including those on the planet Covenant ship is visiting.

    Its quite possible that David & Shaw boarded the ship which was programmed & destined for this planet. When they reached the planet, the ship automatically opened its doors and unleashed the Black goo while David just watched.

    But i think there was already official information that this is Engineers homeworld?
    And those white people look same like Engineers from that deleted scene in Prometheus,people with robes also changing the eye colour could be just for aesthetics,and its not "roman civilization stage" because you can see in those Empire pictures that there is HUGE mechanical construction that looks like sting of the scoripion.

  21. cliffhanger
    I find it funny that there are members here so prominently advocating they are 'in the know' because they say so?
     whatever, really. get a grip and drop some arrogance.

    "they're engineers".

    -There is no way of knowing, so there is no way of saying it like it's fact.

    "shaw is dead"

    -again, nobody knows for sure.

    "spoiler thread with leaks".

    - GTFO, there are dozens of contradicting 'leaks', there is no way to be sure what is real and not, what has changed, whether it's trollmaterial, and so on.

    "david creates them"

    -again, assumptions, not facts.
  22. x-M-x
    We've yet to see the *Space Jockey* you know what i'm talking about.. that 12 to 15ft monster lol...

    My guess would be, David creates the eggs at some point and manages to create 100000+ of them? puts them on a very old ship (Derelict) where the pilot seat is massive (takes a 12ft/15ft Jockey and we finally see the SJ and david have a chat? lol and he orders him to earth (but en route) an egg is hatched and manages to get the Jockey. (Crash/emergency landing via LV_426

    That's how i would see it go down after covenant maybe in awaking or whatever the 3rd movie will be called.

    David created the xenomorphs as we know them, (they've been around a long time in bastard form or weak form) but he perfected them.

    Perfect Organism


    yay/nay? lol
  23. The_Foxcatcher
    Those are NOT the Engineers. 

    The Engineers in Prometheus had big alien-ish eyes with large glowing Black Iris. And their skin was very translucent. That's the major prominent differentiation.

    The men in jute clothing are a different race of Humans the Engineers created. They seem to be in an ancient roman civilization stage like that of Earth humans. Their skin colour is close to humans on Earth and not at all like the Engineers.

    The Engineers in Prometheus decided to end all human race they ever created including on Earth and including those on the planet Covenant ship is visiting.

    Its quite possible that David & Shaw boarded the ship which was programmed & destined for this planet. When they reached the planet, the ship automatically opened its doors and unleashed the Black goo while David just watched.

     
  24. SiL
    One of millions of Engineers who died millennia ago, just like the ones on LV-223.
    But if David creates the Alien, the Engineer couldn't have died millenia ago with a cargo hold full of eggs. That's the question being raised: if David makes the Alien, who's in the chair?

    If David makes the Alien, either there's still Engineers around, or someone else is in the pilot chair. If David recreates the Alien, then the Engineers might be wiped out here and there's no problems.

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    Making up some entirely new story for what became of the jockey on LV-426 seems pointless and silly to me given that well-established framework. As does potentially sealing someone in there (or seeding the ship) only 20 years before Alien. I find that incredibly dumb.
    Likewise, but it looks like that's precisely where we're headed.
  25. St_Eddie
    That's actually very cliche editing technique (even in the 70s) just to hide bad effects.  Alien is gritty and real.  If they tried to hide it via editing it would look cheesy.  Just watch any b movie from the 50s.  But the point of Alien is that it's not a b-movie, so they can't cut away to hide a bad effect.

    How "gritty and real" is it to blatantly switch from a dummy head to a real one, without even attempting to disguise the switch?!  Just ask a magician about how important distraction is when performing a magic trick.  Also, clichés usually exist for a very good reason.

    I had a quick play around in my editing software to help illustrate my point...

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9l0_GoiZKB3QVdCbDFfUGVsV2c
  26. acidreign
    Then who's in the Derelict pilot's chair?

    One of millions of Engineers who died millennia ago, just like the ones on LV-223. That was my takeaway from Prometheus - that they'd been wiped out by their own plague aeons ago and that what had happened on 223 was representative of what had happened with the jockey on LV-426. The story in the film followed the same details as what Scott had been saying about the jockey for decades, that it was carrying a ship full of bioweapons that got out of control and died long ago. This has always been the story and Scott's never seemed keen on f**king with it, including in Prometheus - until maybe right now.

    Making up some entirely new story for what became of the jockey on LV-426 seems pointless and silly to me given that well-established framework. As does potentially sealing someone in there (or seeding the ship) only 20 years before Alien. I find that incredibly dumb.

    Yeah I agree that it would be dumb to go down that route. Ironically the same sort of scenario was what I dreaded would happen in Prometheus after I first saw the trailer with the falling Juggernaut. I assumed that it must be the Derelict and not just a similar ship.
  27. Scorpio
    There is a version that does just that and it looks way better.

    There is?  I disagree though, that shot works because later on they cut back to Ash's head and it's the dummy head again, so it's like every time he gets deactivated he goes back to the dummy head.

    Besides, you can't fool the audience with a reaction shot.

    I'm sorry but that's nonsense.  As someone whom does a lot of editing with fan edits, I can tell you that you more or less never want to cut from a shot of a person, straight to another shot of the same person, especially if you're trying to hide a switch from a dummy to a real person.  That's editing 101. There are exceptions to the rule (for example, a frantic sequence of someone freaking out on drugs might work quite well with multiple quick cuts to different angles of the same person) but the Ash edit in 'Alien' is not one of these exceptions.

    It is, and Ridley Scott knew that and he couldn't trick the audience so he made it part of the narrative.

    Of course you can fool the audience.  That's a large part of what editing entails.  You wouldn't cut to one of the characters looking shocked or anything.  You'd just cut to them standing there and watching (maybe just looking around the room nervously).

    That's actually very cliche editing technique (even in the 70s) just to hide bad effects.  Alien is gritty and real.  If they tried to hide it via editing it would look cheesy.  Just watch any b movie from the 50s.  But the point of Alien is that it's not a b-movie, so they can't cut away to hide a bad effect.
  28. St_Eddie
    There is a version that does just that and it looks way better.

    There is?  I disagree though, that shot works because later on they cut back to Ash's head and it's the dummy head again, so it's like every time he gets deactivated he goes back to the dummy head.

    Besides, you can't fool the audience with a reaction shot.

    I'm sorry but that's nonsense.  As someone whom does a lot of editing with fan edits, I can tell you that you more or less never want to cut from a shot of a person, straight to another shot of the same person, especially if you're trying to hide a switch from a dummy to a real person.  That's editing 101. There are exceptions to the rule (for example, a frantic sequence of someone freaking out on drugs might work quite well with multiple quick cuts to different angles of the same person) but the Ash edit in 'Alien' is not one of these exceptions.

    It is, and Ridley Scott knew that and he couldn't trick the audience so he made it part of the narrative.

    Of course you can fool the audience.  That's a large part of what editing entails.  You wouldn't cut to one of the characters looking shocked or anything.  You'd just cut to them standing there and watching (maybe just looking around the room nervously).
  29. SpeedyMaxx
    Then who's in the Derelict pilot's chair?

    One of millions of Engineers who died millennia ago, just like the ones on LV-223. That was my takeaway from Prometheus - that they'd been wiped out by their own plague aeons ago and that what had happened on 223 was representative of what had happened with the jockey on LV-426. The story in the film followed the same details as what Scott had been saying about the jockey for decades, that it was carrying a ship full of bioweapons that got out of control and died long ago. This has always been the story and Scott's never seemed keen on f**king with it, including in Prometheus - until maybe right now.

    Making up some entirely new story for what became of the jockey on LV-426 seems pointless and silly to me given that well-established framework. As does potentially sealing someone in there (or seeding the ship) only 20 years before Alien. I find that incredibly dumb.
  30. 7Xenos
    I've been hoping for a long time that we would actually get to see a planet or moon being vase/egg bombed and the resulting chaos.

    Good things do come to those who wait!

    That tall structure most def has a Predator architecture vibe.
  31. Scorpio
    Lightened up the alien scan. The skull face is pretty neat to see again on screen.

    Notice the lack of slime as well.  The alien from A:R to AVPR always was covered in slime.

    But that's a super dramatic moment where you have to cut to people's faces to show emotion.
    A reaction cut to Lambert disgusted by the idea of turning Ash back on would work just fine.



    That sounds cheesy.  I'm sure Ridley Scott did the best with what he had to work with.
  32. Scorpio
    There is?  I disagree though, that shot works because later on they cut back to Ash's head and it's the dummy head again, so it's like every time he gets deactivated he goes back to the dummy head.
    It doesn't work though, because it's a really obvious cut from the dummy to the live head.

    It is, and Ridley Scott knew that and he couldn't trick the audience so he made it part of the narrative.

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    Besides, you can't fool the audience with a reaction shot.
    Of course you can. Even worked for the chest bursting.

    But that's a super dramatic moment where you have to cut to people's faces to show emotion.
  33. SiL
    There is?  I disagree though, that shot works because later on they cut back to Ash's head and it's the dummy head again, so it's like every time he gets deactivated he goes back to the dummy head.
    It doesn't work though, because it's a really obvious cut from the dummy to the live head.

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    Besides, you can't fool the audience with a reaction shot.
    Of course you can. Even worked for the chest bursting.
  34. Predaker
    Then who's in the Derelict pilot's chair?
    For all intents and purposes they are extinct by the time we get to ALIEN ... If we're really lucky, we might see one more die in this prequel series.

    Hopefully not David, Shaw, Daniels, Tennessee the "pilot," etc. I personally prefer it remain ancient as originally intended. If they are going to keep retconning the space jockey any further, I wouldn't mind if it turns out to be David (after he "enhances" himself into a biomechanical being.)
  35. bobcunk
    As others have said, the neomorph design is very generic.  Monsters such as that are ten a penny in movies and videogames.  The first thing I thought of when seeing it, was the creature from the 1999 remake of 'House on Haunted Hill' (itself an unused design by Dick Smith for 1981's 'Ghost Story')...

    http://i.imgur.com/vUVJLlv.jpg
    The first thing I thought of was, the evil dead demon.
    http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/evildead/images/6/64/Ash-vs-evil-dead-eligos.jpg
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