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Arnold Schwarzenegger turned down The Predator. Arnold spoke last year about meeting with Shane Black to discuss the film but we never heard much after that. In a new interview with YahooMovies about a variety of topics, Arnold was inevitably asked whether or not he would be appearing in Shane Black’s The Predator.

“They asked me, and I read it, and I didn’t like it — whatever they offered. So I’m not going to do that, no. Except if there’s a chance that they rewrite it, or make it a more significant role. But the way it is now, no, I won’t do that.”

 Arnold Schwarzenegger Turned Down The Predator

Arnold Schwarzenegger turned down The Predator according to a new interview with YahooMovies.

From the comment “more significant role“, it sounds like Dutch’s involvement would have been on the minimal side. From what information Alien vs. Predator Galaxy has been able to obtain from the supposed leaked script, Dutch appeared at the very end of the script for a very short cameo with a few lines that sets up a sequel.

Thanks to The Wolverine Predator for the news. Keep checking in with Alien vs. Predator Galaxy for the latest on The Predator! You can follow us on FacebookTwitter and Instagram to get the latest on your social media walls. You can also join in with fellow Predator fans on our forums!

Update #1 – Shane Black responded to our very own ThePredatorUK on Twitter regarding the news, saying that: “I spoke with him, I think it was that he didn’t have enough to do. Enough presence in the film.”



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  1. BishopShouldGo
    Would've been wildly more successful.

    Once again you're totally ignoring the fact Arnie's last few starring roles have hardly set the box office on fire.

    Obviously I mean around the time Predator 2 actually came out. Obviously I don't mean a hypothetical Arnie Predator 2 or 3 being released in 2016 or 2017. Which would probably still do well because it's a franchise like Terminator.
  2. Stealth_Hunter
    Oy, he's not saying that. But it should've been. Would've been wildly more successful.
    I'd agree if Arnold was at least 20 years younger and his last few movies weren't terrible or weak at the box office. But now just makes little sense for them to put all their eggs in the nostalgia basket by forcing the story to be centered on him.

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    I don't want to root for a damn creature, I want to root for the humans.
    I agree with you there. Maybe we will like the new characters in The Predator.
  3. Original Predator

    So, Predator 2 is a pretty good movie and has no Arnold... but at the same time Predator without Arnold ist shit... make up your mind dude.

    Predator doesn't need Arnold, the movies aren't his story and have never been one connected arc anyway, so it really doesn't matter.

    I agree that the cameo at the end would have been lame, so in my book, not having Arnold in the movie at all is the better way to go... i love Arnold, but people don't give a shit about his movies anymore, the last two went straight to DVD and that should teel you something... it's 2017.

    Either it bombs or it makes money, Arnold wouldn't have changed anything about it.

    I think there are two schools of thought when it comes to the Predator in general.

    Side A- Predator is the character, Predator is what the movie should be about, their world, their universe, they get the screen time etc...
    Side B- The human characters are the lead(s).  The story, the mystery, the slow burn of revealing Predator etc... is what it's about.  Arnold and Danny Glover both I think were strong characters, that you rooted for, related too etc...

    I've said in this forum before.  Now it's about rooting for the Predators, them being the main (lead) character etc...

    I think Alien franchise did a good job of making it Ripley's story, vs. the Alien story.  I always think that's a better formula.  When you are making a monster/creature franchise, I'm in the group that prefers  humans being the central character vs. the creature.

    Now the whole Dutch thing, 30 years later, we've obviously lost out on some good years worth of story...but, nevertheless it would help fill a void in the franchise.  my opinion.
  4. Johnny Handsome

    How can they determine what people think worldwide?
    Predator 2, while pretty good... Predator without Arnold is wrong.
    So, Predator 2 is a pretty good movie and has no Arnold... but at the same time Predator without Arnold ist shit... make up your mind dude.

    Predator doesn't need Arnold, the movies aren't his story and have never been one connected arc anyway, so it really doesn't matter.

    I agree that the cameo at the end would have been lame, so in my book, not having Arnold in the movie at all is the better way to go... i love Arnold, but people don't give a shit about his movies anymore, the last two went straight to DVD and that should teel you something... it's 2017.

    Either it bombs or it makes money, Arnold wouldn't have changed anything about it.
  5. Stealth_Hunter
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    Not all people voted or are on this site i didnt vote and i'd want Arnold in it (central role)

    It's a large sample of a population that comes to this site solely because they are fans of the franchise. Such a large sample of Predator fans that an accurate assessment can be made, and its results don't support your claim. How do you know your claim is true, anyways?

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    Predator 2, while pretty good, flopped because Arnold was missing and Predators was a joke, Arnold was missing too. That should tell you something. Predator without Arnold is wrong.

    Your opinion of P2 and Predators aside, it all just tells me that Arnold in his prime was popular. His recent outings tell me he doesn't guarantee success in quality or box office. Quite the opposite, actually.
  6. Lieutenant Mike Harrigan
    I also believe alot of people wanted to see him play Dutch again, and not in just some small cameo appearance at the end. Obviously the producers and the writers of this movie are totally out of touch with the fanbase or just straight up ignore them. Either way, it´s their loss in the end.
    This is exactly what i and most fans think. They dont care what fans want.
    My thoughts as well, they just don't get it or simply just don't care.


    Not true at all, guys. According to the poll here, 51% of us voted that he should be given a cameo appearance whereas only 35% said he should be given a central role. Over 6,800 fans voted.

    http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/polls/
    Not all people voted or are on this site i didnt vote and i'd want Arnold in it (central role)

    The fans want Arnold give it to us.

    How can they determine what people think worldwide?
    Predator 2, while pretty good, flopped because Arnold was missing and Predators was a joke, Arnold was missing too. That should tell you something. Predator without Arnold is wrong.
  7. Predator_Spirit
    I also believe alot of people wanted to see him play Dutch again, and not in just some small cameo appearance at the end. Obviously the producers and the writers of this movie are totally out of touch with the fanbase or just straight up ignore them. Either way, it´s their loss in the end.
    This is exactly what i and most fans think. They dont care what fans want.
    My thoughts as well, they just don't get it or simply just don't care.


    Not true at all, guys. According to the poll here, 51% of us voted that he should be given a cameo appearance whereas only 35% said he should be given a central role. Over 6,800 fans voted.

    http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/polls/

    They don't care about one particular website but about the comments on the internet worldwide.
  8. Stealth_Hunter
    I also believe alot of people wanted to see him play Dutch again, and not in just some small cameo appearance at the end. Obviously the producers and the writers of this movie are totally out of touch with the fanbase or just straight up ignore them. Either way, it´s their loss in the end.
    This is exactly what i and most fans think. They dont care what fans want.
    My thoughts as well, they just don't get it or simply just don't care.


    Not true at all, guys. According to the poll here, 51% of us voted that he should be given a cameo appearance whereas only 35% said he should be given a central role. Over 6,800 fans voted.

    http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/polls/
  9. OWLF
    I also believe alot of people wanted to see him play Dutch again, and not in just some small cameo appearance at the end. Obviously the producers and the writers of this movie are totally out of touch with the fanbase or just straight up ignore them. Either way, it´s their loss in the end.
    This is exactly what i and most fans think. They dont care what fans want.
    My thoughts as well, they just don't get it or simply just don't care.
  10. DavidCollins
    Ushella,  The type of role i wanna see Arnold plays if he's in The Predator? Yeah pretty much like what you just described. Back in 87 he managed to off a predator and got away to tell the story. He became obsessed with this extraterrestrial hunter and set up his own investigation/research/intelligence small facility. He really knows a lot about this creature, their methods, their tendencies, their skills you name it. He's the guy you want around when it comes to Predator-hunting activities primarily because of his knowledge and insight of the predators. I don't wanna see him take on a predator mano a mano style, he's too old for that shit. He can be the CO who sheds the light on the whole alien encounter thing, enlightening the team on how to dismantle the technologically advanced alien. But of course, things can always go awry, no matter how trained and prepared you think you are, you never know what this cunning alien has in store for you. Long story short, i wanna see Dutch play a CO type of role where he's only responsible for the supervision tasks, not the one who pulls the trigger when shit hits the fan. Leave that to Quinn Mckenna and his team.
  11. Ushella
    Got a question, what do you people want from Arnold in, "The Predator"?
    For me, personally, I can't see him fighting any Preds' as he's out of his prime. I can however see him as some Top Secret strategist tactician guy who gives out info to the elite soldiers who aim to catch/kill Preds. That's about it really. Unless they do a Logan approach
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    Arnie taking a bit part in a Marvel movie makes more sense
    Arnold in a superhero film? Possibly the worst idea ever. Did you forget Batman and Robin killed Arni's career? Arnold should stay away from awful children film like that(marvel)

    Ayeeeeee, Batman & Robin is clearly different to Marvel films.
  12. Lieutenant Mike Harrigan
    I also believe alot of people wanted to see him play Dutch again, and not in just some small cameo appearance at the end. Obviously the producers and the writers of this movie are totally out of touch with the fanbase or just straight up ignore them. Either way, it´s their loss in the end.
    This is exactly what i and most fans think. They dont care what fans want.

    Arnie taking a bit part in a Marvel movie makes more sense
    Arnold in a superhero film? Possibly the worst idea ever. Did you forget Batman and Robin killed Arni's career? Arnold should stay away from awful children film like that(marvel)
  13. echobbase79
    It doesn't, but if they can market it like the event film they want it to be, they'll have no problem yielding similar success. PG-13 rating is immaterial per Fox's other recent R rated successes. Scope and Pitt for WWZ helped eventize it, they'll just have to eventize this movie in the marketing.
    Marketing costs money. Large-scale event picture marketing can run to $100 million on its own. Would be nice if they spent it, but I really, really doubt it.

    I hope they put some big $$$ in the marketing. Considering that they want to reach a bigger audience with this.
  14. SiL
    It doesn't, but if they can market it like the event film they want it to be, they'll have no problem yielding similar success. PG-13 rating is immaterial per Fox's other recent R rated successes. Scope and Pitt for WWZ helped eventize it, they'll just have to eventize this movie in the marketing.
    Marketing costs money. Large-scale event picture marketing can run to $100 million on its own. Would be nice if they spent it, but I really, really doubt it.
  15. BishopShouldGo
    This movie isn't an unknown quantity like The Nice Guys or Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, but it isn't stratospheric like Iron Man 3. I think AvP:R and Predators have shown the base for these movies no matter what is $130 million. So a good Predator movie for once has serious potential.

    It doesn't, but if they can market it like the event film they want it to be, they'll have no problem yielding similar success. PG-13 rating is immaterial per Fox's other recent R rated successes. Scope and Pitt for WWZ helped eventize it, they'll just have to eventize this movie in the marketing.
  16. SiL
    Nice Guys made $57 million worldwide.
    Double checked and Box Office Mojo only lists the domestic, hence my number. But still, $57's not amazing. And is still his second highest-grossing movie.

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    And no zombie film before World War Z ever did gangbusters.
    No zombie film had a $100 million budget, Brad Pitt, and a PG-13 rating -- three things this film is distinctly lacking.

    And it's not as a movie star, which is what this opportunity is about.
    Right, but what I'm mostly getting at is that I really don't think that's a priority for him any more. He nailed it and moved on. He still loves acting, but he doesn't need to be the greatest star in the world again. He did it already.
  17. SpeedyMaxx
    Between his social media gibes at the President and his aforementioned work on various community projects, he's plenty out here.

    He's out there, but it's intermittent. And it's not as a movie star, which is what this opportunity is about. The big splashy star revival was already tried on Terminator. It didn't work. I think this is worth a shot given the caliber of talent, a studio commitment (the opposite of an iffy production, unlike Predators where they just sent everyone to Rodriguez's yard) and IMO a good script. But that's me.

    I haven't said this movie is going to be a monster hit and I wouldn't say that for a certainty. I think it will do pretty good numbers, but I don't know that it will beat out AC or be some really massive blockbuster. I think it will do enough to greenlight a sequel. Beyond that who knows.
  18. BishopShouldGo
    Nice Guys made $57 million worldwide.

    And no zombie film before World War Z ever did gangbusters. No reason why this Predator film can't be the first. I would not be surprised if this made over $400 million.
  19. SiL
    And I think at this point in his post-Governor film career, Arnold should take the long view of what the cameo can mean for the future.
    It could mean a day wasted on set that never amounts to anything. Yes, that's a pessimistic view. No, it's not an unrealistic one.

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    I wish that were true. I don't think it is anymore. 90% of his current film output (and public life) is not on a lot of people's radar atm.
    Between his social media gibes at the President and his aforementioned work on various community projects, he's plenty out here.
  20. Master
    Maybe not,  yet he's still a legend. He's recognisable to most of this planets population and I'm not even exaggerating. Arnie is a big deal. You want big deal? Give him a big role. He was offered camo twice so far and closest to happening was during AvP production. But he won the election.  I'm glad he's not in it though. Old man Arnie fighting Predator in iffy production... just leave him be.
  21. SpeedyMaxx
    I know. And I think that's a great idea. But because of that, they didn't offer him the chance to work with an action auteur -- they offered him the chance to walk in and say hi. Bit of a difference.

    And I think at this point in his post-Governor film career, Arnold should take the long view of what the cameo can mean for the future.

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    He's Arnold Motherf**king Schwarzenegger, he's always in the public's mind.

    I wish that were true. I don't think it is anymore. 90% of his current film output (and public life) is not on a lot of people's radar atm.
  22. SiL
    Because they're trying to re-introduce a franchise with new leads and new ideas without just leaning on Arnold
    I know. And I think that's a great idea. But because of that, they didn't offer him the chance to work with an action auteur -- they offered him the chance to walk in and say hi. Bit of a difference.

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    No, there isn't. But this puts Arnold back in the public's mind immediately.
    He's Arnold Motherf**king Schwarzenegger, he's always in the public's mind.
  23. SpeedyMaxx
    And if they'd offered that, I'm sure he would've! Instead they offered him a walk-on part for a day's filming to kind of say "hi" at the end of production.

    Because they're trying to re-introduce a franchise with new leads and new ideas without just leaning on Arnold - Genisys proved that didn't work. I think that's a very valid choice.

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    There's no reason they can't still bring him on in the sequel for the role they intended for him.

    No, there isn't. But this puts Arnold back in the public's mind immediately.
  24. SiL
    Sure. But maybe he wants to do a good movie with a celebrated action auteur, as opposed to Expendables IV or another Genisys. It couldn't hurt.
    And if they'd offered that, I'm sure he would've! Instead they offered him a walk-on part for a day's filming to kind of say "hi" at the end of production. There's no reason they can't still bring him on in the sequel for the role they intended for him.
  25. SpeedyMaxx
    I'm not saying the film will tank, but from the perspective of a man who's spent his life achieving everything he's set out to, he reeeaaally doesn't need a bit part at the end of an unsure bet that may or may not turn into a major role in a few years.

    Sure. But maybe he wants to do a good movie with a celebrated action auteur, as opposed to Expendables IV or another Genisys. It couldn't hurt.

    I'm not surprised, but I do think it's a career mistake. And yes, his film career - if he still wants one - does need it at this point, IMO.
  26. SiL
    Yes, there's a difference -- but it goes back to he doesn't need it. He's Arnold f**king Schwarzenegger. A teaser getting people talking at the end of a movie doesn't really bolster him (and I imagine with how Terminator Genysis went he's weary of franchise bait).

    It's a bit more complicated than just "making its money" (and whether it "makes money" can depend on some creative accounting if it's cheaper to write it off as a loss than admit it's a profit), and financially, the deck's stacked against them: Predator movies have never done gangbusters and Black's second-highest grossing film, The Nice Guys, made all of $36 million worldwide. Yeah, Iron Man 3 made over a billion -- but it's a Robert Downey Jnr Marvel Film. They're the highest grossing Marvel movies. I could make one tomorrow and bank on $800 million easy.

    I'm not saying the film will tank, but from the perspective of a man who's spent his life achieving everything he's set out to, he reeeaaally doesn't need a bit part at the end of an unsure bet that may or may not turn into a major role in a few years.

    TL;DR: I still don't think it's the least bit surprising he said no :P
  27. SpeedyMaxx
    As for people asking "Will he be back?!" -- they ask that every time they announce a film, he doesn't need a bit part teaser to get tongues wagging :P

    It's one thing for Arnold to maybe be in a randomly-announced sequel out of nowhere, with fans speculating that he could come back. It's quite another for him to actually show up in a major new Predator sequel with a top-notch creative team in a story which ends with Arnold's character literally onscreen, leading the way to the next movie. That is a big difference. Take a look at how people talked about M. Night Shyamalan's Split before it came out - guessing at a random twist - and after, when the big reveal in the credits had everyone talking.

    Is it possible The Predator might not do well enough to warrant said sequel, sure, hypothetically. But as long as it makes its money (and I think it will) and Black/Dekker are down, the studio will make it.
  28. echobbase79
    I see what you mean with it as a success, but it really was one of a string. It's more fondly remembered now than the others, but at the time, they were all hitting about the same marks financially and critically.

    Sure - but only some still hit the mark today, critically. Predator is one of the big ones.

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    He's not about to starve if he doesn't act, you know?

    Certainly not, which is why I admired him for taking on, say, Maggie, which I still haven't seen but which seemed like a smaller genre picture where he could just act. That said he's still clearly focused on being the lead when and where he can, and I just don't think that's the be-all end-all. When he's taken recent studio pictures where he's leading, they've mostly all turned out bad or mediocre since he stopped being Governator. His best options for that right now are several pipe dreams - like Crusade or Wings for Eagles, neither of which is likely to ever happen, or King Conan which will never be the same without the unfortunately-incapacitated John Milius - or a future Shane Black Predator sequel, which definitely can and probably will happen, IMO.

    We're in a significant age of both mega-franchising and micro-targeted nostalgia. I think Arnold's cameo in The Predator ticks all the hottest boxes in that formula right now, and would poise him to do what Sly has begun to wisely do by hitching his star to Marvel as well as to key supporting roles in important new films. A lot of people think Sly was robbed of an Oscar for Creed and I think they're right. You can't buy that with a leading role in a studio action picture today, at least not a standalone one like the ones he's been trying to do. I'm not saying that sort of Creed prestige could ever be Arnold's, but I do think he would catch more heat - if that is what he wants - with the right material, even if it's not center spotlight. And I think that spotlight would still be on him in the eyes of audiences leaving the theater after this movie. Every question would be 'is Dutch starring in the sequel?'

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    Do you follow him on social media?

    I don't, but I'm aware of his recent commentary on the Special Olympics and the POTUS, both of which made me very proud to be a fan. Arnold is not a saint, anyone who knows his history knows that, but I think he's a profoundly decent (if imperfect) man and a true American on many levels.

    Maggie is a movie that I couldn't finish, not because it was bad, but because it was really a downer. Arnie's really good in it though. I'll finish one day, but I know I'm going to hate how it ends.
  29. SiL
    Arnie taking a bit part in a Marvel movie makes more sense because they're not waiting for one film to do well before doing another; they have half a dozen in production at any time and a bit part in one movie guarantees a role in the next. This is a tiny role at the end of a movie and whether there's a sequel is entirely dependent on the success of this movie; it's not a sure thing.

    As for people asking "Will he be back?!" -- they ask that every time they announce a film, he doesn't need a bit part teaser to get tongues wagging :P
  30. SpeedyMaxx
    I see what you mean with it as a success, but it really was one of a string. It's more fondly remembered now than the others, but at the time, they were all hitting about the same marks financially and critically.

    Sure - but only some still hit the mark today, critically. Predator is one of the big ones.

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    He's not about to starve if he doesn't act, you know?

    Certainly not, which is why I admired him for taking on, say, Maggie, which I still haven't seen but which seemed like a smaller genre picture where he could just act. That said he's still clearly focused on being the lead when and where he can, and I just don't think that's the be-all end-all. When he's taken recent studio pictures where he's leading, they've mostly all turned out bad or mediocre since he stopped being Governator. His best options for that right now are several pipe dreams - like Crusade or Wings for Eagles, neither of which is likely to ever happen, or King Conan which will never be the same without the unfortunately-incapacitated John Milius - or a future Shane Black Predator sequel, which definitely can and probably will happen, IMO.

    We're in a significant age of both mega-franchising and micro-targeted nostalgia. I think Arnold's cameo in The Predator ticks all the hottest boxes in that formula right now, and would poise him to do what Sly has begun to wisely do by hitching his star to Marvel as well as to key supporting roles in important new films. A lot of people think Sly was robbed of an Oscar for Creed and I think they're right. You can't buy that with a leading role in a studio action picture today, at least not a standalone one like the ones he's been trying to do. I'm not saying that sort of Creed prestige could ever be Arnold's, but I do think he would catch more heat - if that is what he wants - with the right material, even if it's not center spotlight. And I think that spotlight would still be on him in the eyes of audiences leaving the theater after this movie. Every question would be 'is Dutch starring in the sequel?'

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    Do you follow him on social media?

    I don't, but I'm aware of his recent commentary on the Special Olympics and the POTUS, both of which made me very proud to be a fan. Arnold is not a saint, anyone who knows his history knows that, but I think he's a profoundly decent (if imperfect) man and a true American on many levels.
  31. SiL
    Thanks for that!

    I see what you mean with it as a success, but it really was one of a string. It's more fondly remembered now than the others, but at the time, they were all hitting about the same marks financially and critically.

    I don't think Arnie's really that preoccupied with acting today. He reached his goal of being the biggest movie star in the world, then he moved in to his next goal, and his next. I don't get the impression that he's desperate for parts, or a film career. He's not about to starve if he doesn't act, you know?

    Do you follow him on social media? One really gets the sense that his community focused projects - ending gerrymandering, after school exercise programs, etc. - are much more what he'd rather be working on today. He still enjoys acting, but it's not all he is like it was in the 80s.
  32. SpeedyMaxx
    I think we'll agree to disagree on what he owes,
    I never did get a response on what you thought he owed the franchise :P

    I simply feel the movie is one of his greatest hits, critically and commercially. Commando and Running Man are remembered as lovable camp at best. Predator was more than that and cemented his ability to continue to take on quality projects into the early '90s.

    I think he has a small but important cameo written for him in a high-profile studio franchise picture from a critically-acclaimed writer-director who knows and respects Arnold's cachet, and who has clearly written the role in order for it to be able to lead to a strong presence in future installments. I think given the state of Arnold's career at present it could only help him, if he's serious about coming back big the way Sly eventually did (and Sly's had fits and starts since his big return but major movies like Creed and the Guardians of the Galaxy sequel have kept him up - Arnold doesn't really have anything like that in his quiver atm). Sly is shrewd enough to know he doesn't always have to be the star, and realized his Expendables DTV sequels were hurting more than helping him. What was Arnold's last really substantial studio picture? Genisys and David Ayer's worst movie before Suicide Squad? He starred in those but did it help him? Arnold is far from stupid - he's a very smart businessman and I think he can and should see the benefits here.

    YMMV, but that is just my opinion.
  33. SiL
    I think we'll agree to disagree on what he owes,
    I never did get a response on what you thought he owed the franchise :P

    He was big from Terminator and Conan. Commando came out in '85 and did well, The Running Man was a critical "eh" but did alright in '86. Predator was another high, but it didn't make or save his career. It was just another good film under his belt.

    He "owes" the Terminator franchise for sure. He even "owes" Conan (and he'd readily admit it, as it was his first major role). But Predator wasn't really a career-defining or career-making point for him.
  34. SpeedyMaxx
    You always seem to know better than everybody else, don´t you Speedy?? You´re the typical mister know-it-all that always has to be right, no matter what. TBH, I don´t have time for these games and sincerely it´s a total waste of my time trying to argue with you. Tell you what, let´s talk again when this movie comes out and see how successful it was, ok??

    All I said was I disagree about the audience they're going for and need, man. No big deal.
  35. The Wolverine Predator
    Considering he´s the main star in the original Predator movie and it´s one of his most iconic roles, and also that he still is a relatively known movie star Obviously the producers and the writers of this movie are totally out of touch with the fanbase or just straight up ignore them. Either way, it´s their loss in the end.
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    Do you have a twitter account? Because the fan base is always saying they want Arnold back as Dutch


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  36. OWLF
    You always seem to know better than everybody else, don´t you Speedy?? You´re the typical mister know-it-all that always has to be right, no matter what. TBH, I don´t have time for these games and sincerely it´s a total waste of my time trying to argue with you. Tell you what, let´s talk again when this movie comes out and see how successful it was, ok??
  37. BishopShouldGo
    I think we'll agree to disagree on what he owes, or at least what he could use. A starring role in a future Shane Black movie couldn't hurt him IMO. But Arnold is gonna be Arnold and I love him regardless.

    Shane has cited Prometheus as an inspiration to how he would treat Predator, in terms of the serious event thing. I think he thought Arnold's appearance in this would be analogous to the deacon in Prometheus.
  38. SpeedyMaxx
    They're not just trying to reach the hardcore fanbase, though. This is for a larger audience.

    I adore Arnold but he can't carry a major studio picture by himself anymore. This movie aims to establish a new setup with new ideas for the franchise and offered Arnold a major future role.

    Larger audience? The whole Predator franchise has a really large fanbase as it is, if you don´t believe go to any comic convention and you´ll see what I mean.

    I've been, but that's not the larger audience they are hoping to get. Those are fans who are bought and paid for. That is a fraction of the market. I think you're wrong that all that's needed is fan service, but you're entitled to your opinion.

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    Arnold carried Terminator Genisys and it did pretty well considering how the movie turned out.

    It was a huge flop and buried the franchise, possibly for good. I love Arnold and that's not his fault, but Arnold did not save it.

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    Boyd Holbrook is still just an up and coming star and has never carried a large movie of this caliber. They virtually have no big names in this movie. None. Zero. Nada. How do you want to sell an event movie like Predator if you don´t even have a known movie star in it??

    With the Predator.
  39. OWLF
    They're not just trying to reach the hardcore fanbase, though. This is for a larger audience.

    I adore Arnold but he can't carry a major studio picture by himself anymore. This movie aims to establish a new setup with new ideas for the franchise and offered Arnold a major future role.

    Larger audience? The whole Predator franchise has a really large fanbase as it is, if you don´t believe go to any comic convention and you´ll see what I mean. Predator and Alien have one of the largest fanbases around, and if you start messing around and changing things too much, the fans are gonna get pissed. Look at what happened with Prometheus, no Aliens, everybody was dissapointed, and look now, like Ridley said, "They want Aliens, I´ll give them f#cking Aliens". He was talking about Covenant. They don´t need a larger audience that haven´t heard or seen a Predator movie, they need to cater to the large audience they already have. And that´s what they don´t get.

    Arnold carried Terminator Genisys and it did pretty well considering how the movie turned out. Boyd Holbrook is still just an up and coming star and has never carried a large movie of this caliber. They virtually have no big names in this movie. None. Zero. Nada. How do you want to sell an event movie like Predator if you don´t even have a known movie star in it??


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