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Guy Pearce Confirms Appearance in Alien: Covenant

Guy Pearce confirms appearance in Alien: Covenant! Last October Alien vs. Predator Galaxy exclusively revealed that Guy Pearce would be reprising his role as Peter Weyland in Alien: Covenant. Pearce hasn’t spoken about the film until now, where the topic was brought up with Latino Review Media and IndieWire.

While being quite cagey with his responses to LRM, he did confirm his involvement with Alien: Covenant. Pearce spoke more freely with IndieWire though:

“Ridley did such an incredible map for finding new ways to tell stories, and even if he does go back to the sort of the origins or what it was that made the original ‘Alien’s films so appealing, he still managed to do it in an innovative way,” the actor explained. “It’s not going to feel dated or old.”

 Guy Pearce Confirms Appearance in Alien: Covenant

Michael Fassbender and Guy Pearce in Alien: Covenant.

Guy Peace talks briefly about working with Sir Ridley Scott and being in another Alien film, he does point out that his involvement with Alien: Covenant is quite minimal when compared to Prometheus:

“I was really there very briefly,” Pearce added. “So I don’t feel it as deeply in my bones as when I’ve worked on something for months on end.”

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  1. Dangerous Days
    I couldn't care less about continuity. It was a head-scratcher on opening day, but ultimately I consider all the connections to Alien to be a liability, like you said. They were better off without them, and I wish they had stuck with the original plan to completely strip the Alien elements from the sequels. The series got the reboot it needed. Rebooting back to Alien isn't really a reboot so much as backpeddling, imo..

    Just to reiterate the point though. The whole creative drive from RS with these prequels is to tell the Space Jockey’s story and its relationship to the Alien. So even when there was a planned Prometheus trilogy, it was always meant to link back to the original franchise at some point. So you may not care about the alien elements or the continuity to Alien, but Fox and RS clearly do and see Covenant as a important link in the chain of the story their trying to tell.

    Also, I do feel some Prometheus fans are overreacting. Yes, Covenant is bringing back the Alien front and centre, but the Promethean elements are still clearly there and I fully expect the film will answer a number of questions left over from Prometheus, while also expanding on the Engineer culture. But whether your satisfied with the answers is an issue to take up with Fox and RS, not the fault of the Alien fan base.

    All in all, these prequels appear to be creation mythos stories: 1st film deals with human creation. 2nd deals with the Xenomorph creation. 3rd maybe Engineer creation? - Before the 4th links them all together, in a classic Greek mythology tale, of creations turning on their creators; obviously revolving around David; who’s both classic Titan-Prometheus: Stealing fire from the gods. (the black goo) And neo-Prometheus: Frankenstein, Playing at being god, creating monsters.

    That's only half of it. Lindelof pointed out that the prologue is there to show us that creation occurs after the destruction, it's just microscopic. It destroys and creates.

    I believe the substance the sacrificial Engineer uses is different from the black goo. It clearly has a different appearance and a different effect.



    Finally, I have no problem with your position and actually agree with some of your points, but you do seem to be redirecting your sense of persecution, from your time on the IMDB forums, back onto people here; often unjustifiably so, imo.

    Generalising about the fan base and trying to claim victimization, isn’t going to get you anywhere. It just comes across as melodramatic.

    As you’ve already said yourself, you’ve got to expect a degree of partisanship towards the Alien films, on an Alien forum.

    As for moving the conversation over to the Prometheus board. I was just trying to be respectful to Hicks, not disrespectful of you or the Prometheus fans.

  2. Kurai
    I hope we get another TED Talk type of thing, that was quite a dramatic piece for a viral campaign and Guy Pearce really handled it well. Maybe something on spaceship design rather than focusing on the Androids, or even going in depth on a planned colonization. Even if it isn't "Weyland" on the stage, another TED Talk would be awesome.
  3. MICHELLE JOHNSTON
    I just wanted to chip in and say how much I appreciated AP(CH) breaking the news of not only Guy's involvement but the general outline of the scene he is involved in.

    I have always been fascinated by how John Logan's symphonic threading style would be used to connect the narrative investment in Prometheus into Covenant and when I heard about this scene I was greatly encouraged. Like all the best ideas it is so simple frame Prometheus inside the Covenant narrative. I also think both the painting, the piece played and the image from the teardrop flight path will prove to be important sign posts.

    All of this reinforces Wayne Haag's remarks in CH's Podcast IV that Covenant will drag Prometheus in its wake and as the narrative emerges we will be responding with a certain amount of "So thats what that meant".

    I haven't watched the trailers (Aliens Are Us) but the stills of David give a very substantial hint as to Ridders big (idea) for David.       
  4. Predaker
    Seems like the engineers will be to Prometheus what the space jockey was to Alien. 30 some odd years from now, Luke Scott will make a prequel to Prometheus and wonder aloud why the engineers were never explored further.

     ;D
  5. MajorB
    I have already posted in the Covenant 2 thread my thoughts on Prometheus 2 becoming an Alien movie:

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    It's not like Prometheus failed and they immediately switched track to making an Alien movie. Ridley and Fox had been trying to crack the story for years as Prometheus 2, and it never came together. This is purely conjecture, but ultimately I think the creative reason why this became an Alien movie is because Prometheus failed in one huge aspect: pointing the franchise away from Alien in the first place. This is because the black goo makes Xenomorphs, they are inextricably intertwined with whatever the Engineers' plans for humanity were. The movie ends with Shaw heading to the Engineer homeworld with a ship filled with Xenomorph juice... there's not very many ways that story goes without the overall result that we've seen in the Covenant trailers. Whatever a sequel to Prometheus would have been, it would have been more difficult to work around the Xenos than to just utilize them, and once you've done that you have an Alien movie. I say this as a person who loved Prometheus to bits and is very disappointed that the Prometheusness of Covenant will apparently be negligible.

    So I think that ultimately it made sense for this to become an Alien movie, and I don't think Ridley is a hack for changing his course.

    However, I remain optimistic that the concepts and plot threads of Prometheus are not dead or forgotten. There are still two films left to get us to Alien '79, and we know that somewhere along the way an Engineer ship needs to crash on LV-426. And who knows- if Shaw has been virtually excised from the film, maybe keeping her fate ambiguous is important to whatever story concepts they have for the future.
  6. newagescamartist
    If it weren't for Prometheus, we'd be getting retcon Alien 3 with a mediocre director and just more of same stuff we've seen for almost 40 years. Why can't we be happy that Covenant is both a sequel to Prometheus and a prequel to Alien? As a fan of both, I'm excited. And Covenant is only part 1 of a 3 movie series so who knows what we will see. I'll take this anyday over Alien 3 part 2 or Aliens 2.5 or whatever the retcon would of been called.
  7. episodenone
    I happen to both Love Prometheus and Recognize it's flaws.  I don't feel there is a persecution or bias here.  If there was a negative bias back when Prometheus was new - it seems to have been replaced with acceptance and nostalgia.

    So let's just move on -- Corporal Hicks has allowed this debate to continue -- it's time we all move on.

    P.S. to be completely honest -- i fell like i'm either a thread killer or i just make some amazingly cool observation and no one seems to care.
    I'd rather have people at least argue with me :'(
  8. Protozoid
    @Protozoid,

    I agree with you, Prometheus was limited by its association with Alien and it has become a millstone critically around its neck ever since. And that’s why the minute Fox and RS made up their minds to take their planned Alien prequel in a new creative direction, they should of bitten the bullet and made Prometheus an original Sci-fi movie, independent of the Alien franchise.

    But I think you have to try and understand, the same annoyance you now have towards Covenant, is how many Alien fans felt towards Prometheus. They were sold the idea of an Alien prequel and ended up with a pseudo-prequel instead; full of retcon.
    I don't really see this as equivalent. Like you said, the Alien series ran out of track because the story didn't have any direction and never added up to more than the sum of its parts. But it had its chance: three sequels and two spinoffs. You Alien fans got 3-5 sequels before they hit the reset button. Prometheus fans got one movie. Just one. So while you might say that Alien lived a long time and died a natural death, Prometheus's fate is less natural. It was a hit but still didn't get a proper sequel. Alien fans have less to complain about given that so many of them embrace Aliens as perhaps the greatest sequel of all time.

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    As for Covenant, I see it as a necessary bridge for them to try and correct the continuity issues Prometheus created between itself and Alien. At the end of the day, Prometheus, like it or not, was supposed to be an Alien prequel and has to reconnect narratively back to the original franchise. Fox and RS probably felt that Prometheus 2 was taking things further off reservation, as far as continuity was concerned; digging themselves a much bigger creative hole to write themselves out of; hence the new Alien bible.
    I couldn't care less about continuity. It was a head-scratcher on opening day, but ultimately I consider all the connections to Alien to be a liability, like you said. They were better off without them, and I wish they had stuck with the original plan to completely strip the Alien elements from the sequels. The series got the reboot it needed. Rebooting back to Alien isn't really a reboot so much as backpeddling, imo.

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    By the way, what mystery is there really in regards to the black goo? - Its a bio-weapon that creates Xeno-like creatures, just like the mural in the ampule room; mystery solved.
    That's only half of it. Lindelof pointed out that the prologue is there to show us that creation occurs after the destruction, it's just microscopic. It destroys and creates.

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    Finally, associating a films commercial success with its quality is a silly argument to make. By that logic, Transformers is superior to Prometheus.
    Look, I'm not stupid. I know that Avatar isn't the best movie ever made. My point bringing up the grosses was to show that Prometheus was a bigger hit than the last 2-4 movies that had Aliens in them, without the signature aliens or the word "alien" in the title. $400 million and tens of millions of discs means that a lot of people saw the movie, more so than the last several Alien installments. Which means that more than just Alien fans went to see it, and a lot of people must have liked it, because the user scores across the net are also higher than the last Alien films. Fox keeps citing a vocal minority of Alien fans as their target audience, not taking into account that the Alien series had been in decline for twenty years when Prometheus came out. There are a lot of people out there who like Prometheus who are being marginalized if not actively discouraged on this site. Hicks keeps telling me to leave my Covenant comments in the Prometheus board. During the Prometheus days, did he tell the haters to stay on the Alien board? Of course not. It's pretty obvious that Prometheus is the red-headed stepchild around here. Again, I don't think I should have to constantly defend myself for calling Prometheus a good movie and a success on the board for its sequel. Telling me to find another board to post these comments is not appropriate. It's dismissive.

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    Anyway, as Corporal Hicks has requested a better debate for the Prometheus boards.
    ...except that we're talking about Covenant. Telling Prometheus fans to stay on the Prometheus boards is just reinforcing my feeling that Alien fans are pushing the upset Prometheus fans away. They don't want to have to think about how upset they must be right now and are trying a little too hard to de-legitimize dissent. To a Prometheus fan, Covenant is upsetting. Unless you guys want to cut Prometheus fans out of the conversation, it's time to acknowledge that. Stop trying to tell us that Prometheus deserves to be retconned. Stop telling us that box office and our opinions and the movie's positive reviews don't matter.

    Prometheus fans matter. They should feel welcome here. They shouldn't have to write a dozen defensive posts for every positive remark they make about Prometheus. If you want to focus on the fact that the glass is half-empty, fine. But don't tell me it's entirely empty. That half-full part of the glass has millions of fans, those fans have feelings, and some of them are reading right now. So keep telling me that we are marginal, that the box office meant nothing, that the reviews meant nothing, that the most famous film critic of his era, Roger Ebert, meant nothing. I expected an Alien forum to favor movies called Alien, but not to the degree that they reject the best-reviewed, highest-grossing entry in the franchise in thirty years, and its fans along with it.

    Is this how it's going to be? From now on, Covenant forum is Alien fan territory and Prometheus fans should be advised that every comment they leave will result in being forced to write a dozen defenses?
  9. rabidranger
    It seems like David feels some kind of contempt for humanity which informs his actions since the end of Prometheus. That said, what if he has some kind of affection for Shaw? He could believe he's doing her a favor by making her a "bride of Frankenstein."
  10. echobbase79

    Protozoid

    Do you happen to know what were some of the ideas for Prometheus 2?
    Not a lot of details, although a surprising number of those have already been flipped completely around. Instead of no xenos, tons of xenos. Instead of the story being focused on Shaw, we get a cameo. We may not even be getting that, depending on what they cut. Instead of getting the xenos again, Scott kept dangling the promise that Shaw would meet the creator of the Engineers in Paradise and that it would be more sinister than she expected. Instead of getting to meet this new being, it sounds like this movie will focus on the xenomorphs. This may be the biggest change of all: Damon Lindelof said the question we should be asking at the end of Prometheus is, "What does the black goo do?" But from what we've heard, the goo and the Engineers are barely in the movie, if at all. I wish I knew more about Prometheus 2. I imagine that about half of the ideas were jettisoned after Scott made The Martian and the other half will probably still be used. I hope.

    Protozoid what's the one element of covenant that has you most excited? What did you think of the walter teaser clip?
    The Walter clip was too short to formulate an opinion. I like the choice of quotes. That gives me hope that the new screenwriters didn't drop the Promethean themes. The part I'm most excited to see is another lesson from a master filmmaker in how to smuggle a worthwhile message into a movie by encoding the images with more detail than the script had. Alien and Blade Runner seemed to help him develop this ability to tell a story with the production design. He even stated this as his goal with Blade Runner. I think Prometheus was a masterpiece of production design and if I find the story of Covenant underwhelming, I will focus on whatever nuggets of wisdom Scott manages to smuggle into the images.

    I have no idea if this is actual concept art, but it looks pretty interesting. Maybe they'll use this idea in future movies.
    http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/prometheus-2-fresh-talk-pic.jpg
  11. Hemi
    It's funny seeing how folk react though, when they migrate from different boards. Their "social filter" is... different. lol

    Ontopic:

    I suggest waiting for the movie. I think personally it will be interesting to see how it ties into Prometheus. The trailer for Covenant made me rewatch Prometheus, and I had an "OK" time with it. It was nice. So there's that... Maybe others wil feel the same after Covenant is released?
  12. Hemi
    Yeah, nothing condescending about those replies.

    Again, from my position you're trying to make a bigger issue out of this than has been demonstrated. One reply that borders on joking doesn't make you the pariah you seem to think you are here. And as I have said several times in this thread - if you have an issue with someone's comment then report it.

    People are entitled to like the film or dislike the film. Those people are entitled to make whatever statements they want regarding the film as long as they do so in a mature manner. You love Lindelof, awesome! Other people don't like Lindelof, just as awesome. I don't and I can tell you why without insulting you for liking him. I'd hope you're capable of doing the same.

    As I've said though, take the Prometheus discussion to the Prometheus board and let's drop the subject here. I think I've put myself across quite clear with the matter.

    http://cdn.webfail.com/upl/img/a77b14cd24f/post2.jpg

    Think we are going to have to get used to this Hicks...  :laugh:

    PS : This is a light hearted joke btw. In case you IMDB fellas start to rage again...  :-*
  13. Dangerous Days
    Yeah, nothing condescending about those replies.

    One reply that borders on joking doesn't make you the pariah you seem to think you are here.

    In all honesty Corporal Hicks, it was meant as a light hearted comment and nothing more. Just a throw away post at the end of the night.

    @Protozoid,

    I agree with you, Prometheus was limited by its association with Alien and it has become a millstone critically around its neck ever since. And that’s why the minute Fox and RS made up their minds to take their planned Alien prequel in a new creative direction, they should of bitten the bullet and made Prometheus an original Sci-fi movie, independent of the Alien franchise.

    But I think you have to try and understand, the same annoyance you now have towards Covenant, is how many Alien fans felt towards Prometheus. They were sold the idea of an Alien prequel and ended up with a pseudo-prequel instead; full of retcon.

    As for Covenant, I see it as a necessary bridge for them to try and correct the continuity issues Prometheus created between itself and Alien. At the end of the day, Prometheus, like it or not, was supposed to be an Alien prequel and has to reconnect narratively back to the original franchise. Fox and RS probably felt that Prometheus 2 was taking things further off reservation, as far as continuity was concerned; digging themselves a much bigger creative hole to write themselves out of; hence the new Alien bible.

    By the way, what mystery is there really in regards to the black goo? - Its a bio-weapon that creates Xeno-like creatures, just like the mural in the ampule room; mystery solved.

    Finally, associating a films commercial success with its quality is a silly argument to make. By that logic, Transformers is superior to Prometheus.

    Anyway, as Corporal Hicks has requested a better debate for the Prometheus boards.
  14. XenoHunter99
    Yeah, nothing condescending about those replies. I'm defensive because I am constantly being called upon to defend my point of view.
    It's too bad you're upset, but you shouldn't be. This franchise is a train wreck, largely because it was not conceived as a franchise. It developed in a haphazard way with too many fingers in the pie. What we're getting in Covenant is Scott pressing the reset button, I think. Prometheus was supposed to be pressing the reset button, but there were problems with it. We'll have to wait to see what actually happens when new the movie comes out. It may have more Prometheus DNA than we know. Maybe it will even be a good movie. And it makes perfect sense for David to have a flashback scene with Weyland. Relevance TBD.
  15. Corporal Hicks
    Yeah, nothing condescending about those replies.

    Again, from my position you're trying to make a bigger issue out of this than has been demonstrated. One reply that borders on joking doesn't make you the pariah you seem to think you are here. And as I have said several times in this thread - if you have an issue with someone's comment then report it.

    People are entitled to like the film or dislike the film. Those people are entitled to make whatever statements they want regarding the film as long as they do so in a mature manner. You love Lindelof, awesome! Other people don't like Lindelof, just as awesome. I don't and I can tell you why without insulting you for liking him. I'd hope you're capable of doing the same.

    As I've said though, take the Prometheus discussion to the Prometheus board and let's drop the subject here. I think I've put myself across quite clear with the matter.
  16. Ragonk_Force
    My guess is weyland will appear in a prologue with David as he first becomes concious. Weyland will tell him things about god, mortality and such, possibly planting the seeds of the notion of a perfect organism, that will be the catalyst for Davids motivations and actions in Covenant. Prediction.
  17. Protozoid

    Protozoid

    Do you happen to know what were some of the ideas for Prometheus 2?
    Not a lot of details, although a surprising number of those have already been flipped completely around. Instead of no xenos, tons of xenos. Instead of the story being focused on Shaw, we get a cameo. We may not even be getting that, depending on what they cut. Instead of getting the xenos again, Scott kept dangling the promise that Shaw would meet the creator of the Engineers in Paradise and that it would be more sinister than she expected. Instead of getting to meet this new being, it sounds like this movie will focus on the xenomorphs. This may be the biggest change of all: Damon Lindelof said the question we should be asking at the end of Prometheus is, "What does the black goo do?" But from what we've heard, the goo and the Engineers are barely in the movie, if at all. I wish I knew more about Prometheus 2. I imagine that about half of the ideas were jettisoned after Scott made The Martian and the other half will probably still be used. I hope.

    Protozoid what's the one element of covenant that has you most excited? What did you think of the walter teaser clip?
    The Walter clip was too short to formulate an opinion. I like the choice of quotes. That gives me hope that the new screenwriters didn't drop the Promethean themes. The part I'm most excited to see is another lesson from a master filmmaker in how to smuggle a worthwhile message into a movie by encoding the images with more detail than the script had. Alien and Blade Runner seemed to help him develop this ability to tell a story with the production design. He even stated this as his goal with Blade Runner. I think Prometheus was a masterpiece of production design and if I find the story of Covenant underwhelming, I will focus on whatever nuggets of wisdom Scott manages to smuggle into the images.
  18. Protozoid
    Yeah, nothing condescending about those replies. I'm defensive because I am constantly being called upon to defend my point of view. I'd lol at the Damon comment if I hadn't already heard that joke from trolls on IMDB. I know you were just trying to lighten things up, but it's a good example of how a joke that has been wearing me down for literally years at this point. It isn't funny, anymore. It's a passively aggressive way to dismiss me. Prometheus made $400 million and was one of the top-renting and selling discs of the year, but they are acting like its fans are invisible. Telling me to "get over it" or teasing me isn't going to help, either. More and more it's looking like the Prometheus fans are being shut out of the Covenant conversation "because its what the fans want." Scott and Fox have been promising Prometheus 2 for half a decade. The Alien fans are getting what they want and the Prometheus fans are being told to accept a pseudosequel that changes genres and lead characters like they were underpants. Being told to "deal with it" isn't helping me get past the early stages of grieving for Prometheus 2. It's just reaffirming my belief that Fox is making a huge mistake by rewarding a hate wave. It was a painful thing for me to go through and this sequel is making it massively worse. Call me sensitive, but I was really looking forward to Prometheus 2 and I have zero interest in more Alien movies.
  19. Dangerous Days
    Perhaps I was oversensitive, but I found it condescending when you lectured me, Ingwar. You definitely weren't the best example of Prometheus trolling I could have chosen, though. It's the people who casually call Prometheus stupid and insist that the fans accept the minority opinion that drives me nuts. Or dogging on Lindelof. Lindelof was one of the best things that ever happened to the Alien series, imo.

    Damon! stop it now! Your embarrassing yourself... ;)
  20. 426Buddy
    Perhaps I was oversensitive, but I found it condescending when you lectured me, Ingwar. You definitely weren't the best example of Prometheus trolling I could have chosen, though. It's the people who casually call Prometheus stupid and insist that the fans accept the minority opinion that drives me nuts. Or dogging on Lindelof. Lindelof was one of the best things that ever happened to the Alien series, imo.

    Do you ever think that lot of people just actually disagree with you and arent trolling?

    People crap all over a lot of films that I love, I don't take it personally. Besides you could fill a whole room with fans of this franchise and none of them would agree on what makes it great.

    I like Prometheus but I found it unsatisfying and that made its flaws stick out all the more, for me anyway. (At the theater when the credits rolled, I turned to my brother and said "it was kind of good?" Half asking while shrugging my shoulders. He didnt really say anything and looked like he didnt know either lol.)


  21. LV1337
    To the topic in question; Is there really this much of a necessity to shoehorn Guy Pierce back into the franchise, 10 years after Weyland's death? Granted if WY are still developing stuff in his name that prove imperative to the story in Covenant, or it's another WY-funded expedition, I don't mind, But at this point, if we're just throwing him in for more "God's made fire" lecture, I'll go back to watching Gods of Egypt, just to get to the point of what religious context Ridley is trying to force into his directing career.

    As for the love/hate for Prometheus in the comments; Personally, I'm 50/50 with the film.Most people will Nitpick the straightest running line in history, others will cringe at the c-sec scene, but regardle Ridley did what he thought at the time was best, trying to cover as much ground as possible and give enough explanation and add his personal touch, but it instead became a complete mess (Possibly in par to Lindelof's integration with the writing) with questionable nitpicky actions and an overhyped marketing course.

    As long as Ridley doesn't pull a rinse/repeat of the series of the next 5 films in the series and adds more and more tiers of god-status extraterrestrials who made the previous iteration to the point human's were made, and actually let's Blomkamp into the fold with his addition to the series, we stand a good chance at getting a logical and enjoyable prequel story to the events of Ripley. This is all that I ask.
  22. Protozoid
    Perhaps I was oversensitive, but I found it condescending when you lectured me, Ingwar. You definitely weren't the best example of Prometheus trolling I could have chosen, though. It's the people who casually call Prometheus stupid and insist that the fans accept the minority opinion that drives me nuts. Or dogging on Lindelof. Lindelof was one of the best things that ever happened to the Alien series, imo.
  23. Ingwar
    Please report any issues you have on this board but I'm not in a position to do anything about articles that aren't written on this website. And it isn't an excuse for belittling behavior on my website.
    My comments were directed a non-specific persons who hated on Prometheus excessively. How am I being worse than Ingvar, whose attempts to belittle me were transparent and personal?

    ???
  24. tango and cash
    Interesting maybe a flash back scene.

    i wonder if 20th century fox are tempted with merging the alien and predator franchises again. Seems though shared/expanded universes are all the rage these days.

  25. Protozoid
    Gotcha-- I know very little about film making things like that.

    Curious -- was there a lot of Guy's footage left on the cutting room floor in Prometheus?  And if so, was any of it him as a younger man?

    I remember the TED video excerpt -- which was cool.  But was anything else filmed?
    There is a scene in the script that was never filmed where David would have visited Weyland in Weyland's dreams. Weyland is a young, attractive version of Pearce and is on a luxury yacht with beautiful women. It was cut for budgetary reasons, I believe. Too bad they didn't do a cheaper version on a beach.
  26. episodenone
    Gotcha-- I know very little about film making things like that.

    Curious -- was there a lot of Guy's footage left on the cutting room floor in Prometheus?  And if so, was any of it him as a younger man?

    I remember the TED video excerpt -- which was cool.  But was anything else filmed?
  27. Darth Vile
    I loved Guy in Memento -- but off hand can't think of anything else he blew me away with.  What I'm confused about... it seems to me Guy could have shot his scenes and recorded his VO in a single day. 

    Well -- 2 or 3 weeks of getting that makeup on --  :o

    So unless I misunderstood - did Guy say he spent even less time on Covenant?  If so -- his role must be itsy bitsy this time around, and my guess, told in just a couple flashbacks.
    A single scene can take hours, if not days, to shoot on a large production... especially if it includes visual effects and/or set pieces. It's no surprise then that Guy spent more time on Prometheus than you'd expect... given he was in at least 3 scenes.
  28. echobbase79
    I loved Guy in Memento -- but off hand can't think of anything else he blew me away with.  What I'm confused about... it seems to me Guy could have shot his scenes and recorded his VO in a single day. 

    Well -- 2 or 3 weeks of getting that makeup on --  :o

    So unless I misunderstood - did Guy say he spent even less time on Covenant?  If so -- his role must be itsy bitsy this time around, and my guess, told in just a couple flashbacks.

    I think Guy's role in this is pretty much a cameo.
  29. episodenone
    I loved Guy in Memento -- but off hand can't think of anything else he blew me away with.  What I'm confused about... it seems to me Guy could have shot his scenes and recorded his VO in a single day. 

    Well -- 2 or 3 weeks of getting that makeup on --  :o

    So unless I misunderstood - did Guy say he spent even less time on Covenant?  If so -- his role must be itsy bitsy this time around, and my guess, told in just a couple flashbacks.
  30. Corporal Hicks
    Like I mentioned earlier, please report any issues you have. There is a report post function on here. Please use it. I expect everyone to behave like adults without taking to insulting each other over disagreements.
  31. Protozoid
    Please report any issues you have on this board but I'm not in a position to do anything about articles that aren't written on this website. And it isn't an excuse for belittling behavior on my website.
    My comments were directed a non-specific persons who hated on Prometheus excessively. How am I being worse than Ingvar, whose attempts to belittle me were transparent and personal? There shouldn't be any problems with me defending a movie on a message board devoted to the sequel to that movie. This is a fan board. In my opinion, positive opinions don't need to be supported nearly as much as negative ones, but the opposite seems to hold true of Prometheus with Alien fans. Anything negative about Prometheus is assumed true, anything positive must be supported with links and facts. This is an infuriating double standard.
  32. Corporal Hicks
    Please report any issues you have on this board but I'm not in a position to do anything about articles that aren't written on this website. And it isn't an excuse for belittling behavior on my website.
  33. Protozoid
    You didn't spend the last five years being trolled for liking it. Calling them a bitter minority is generous. The rest of the internet, including this board, is hostile towards the fans. It takes all the patience I can muster to browse this board without steam coming out of my ears. And believe me, all of the movie's flaws were apparent after one viewing. But more flaws than Alien, Blade Runner , or your typical sci-fi movie? Absolutely not. It was just scrutinized more than just about any film of recent years. The nitpicking that went on cannot be rationally justified. It was excessive, mean, and destructive to the creative health of the series. Alien fans feeling persecuted by Prometheus fans? That's so absurd you must be joking. How many topics are there on this board that mention a promise that this movie will "correct" Prometheus or some other backhanded remark? Are Prometheus fans supposed to say nothing while the community pretends that the best film in the franchise was a mistake? This is a really, really awful board if you have any respect for Ridley and his work. It's really disappointing.

    I'm sorry you feel that way but from my perspective, what I see is a Prometheus fan attempting to belittle those who didn't like it. There's nothing wrong with enjoying Prometheus, there's nothing wrong with disliking it. Let's just do both with respect.
    That would be easier if the disrespectful ones weren't getting their way. Prometheus haters are being pandered to in article after article, and Prometheus fans are marginalised and trolled. Covenant is a victory for the trolls. They were rewarded for childish behavior and ignorance. If they can be tolerated, so can I.
  34. BishopShouldGo
    You didn't spend the last five years being trolled for liking it. Calling them a bitter minority is generous. The rest of the internet, including this board, is hostile towards the fans. It takes all the patience I can muster to browse this board without steam coming out of my ears. And believe me, all of the movie's flaws were apparent after one viewing. But more flaws than Alien, Blade Runner , or your typical sci-fi movie? Absolutely not. It was just scrutinized more than just about any film of recent years. The nitpicking that went on cannot be rationally justified. It was excessive, mean, and destructive to the creative health of the series. Alien fans feeling persecuted by Prometheus fans? That's so absurd you must be joking. How many topics are there on this board that mention a promise that this movie will "correct" Prometheus or some other backhanded remark? Are Prometheus fans supposed to say nothing while the community pretends that the best film in the franchise was a mistake? This is a really, really awful board if you have any respect for Ridley and his work. It's really disappointing.

    Perfect summation. Best film in the franchise indeed.

    How often are Prometheus fans subjected to "Don't pet the snake!" or "Don't run in a straight line!" or "Old man makeup!", all of which can be explained and HAS been explained for MANY years.
  35. Corporal Hicks
    You didn't spend the last five years being trolled for liking it. Calling them a bitter minority is generous. The rest of the internet, including this board, is hostile towards the fans. It takes all the patience I can muster to browse this board without steam coming out of my ears. And believe me, all of the movie's flaws were apparent after one viewing. But more flaws than Alien, Blade Runner , or your typical sci-fi movie? Absolutely not. It was just scrutinized more than just about any film of recent years. The nitpicking that went on cannot be rationally justified. It was excessive, mean, and destructive to the creative health of the series. Alien fans feeling persecuted by Prometheus fans? That's so absurd you must be joking. How many topics are there on this board that mention a promise that this movie will "correct" Prometheus or some other backhanded remark? Are Prometheus fans supposed to say nothing while the community pretends that the best film in the franchise was a mistake? This is a really, really awful board if you have any respect for Ridley and his work. It's really disappointing.

    I'm sorry you feel that way but from my perspective, what I see is a Prometheus fan attempting to belittle those who didn't like it. There's nothing wrong with enjoying Prometheus, there's nothing wrong with disliking it. Let's just do both with respect.
  36. jdxmoore
    You didn't spend the last five years being trolled for liking it. Calling them a bitter minority is generous. The rest of the internet, including this board, is hostile towards the fans. It takes all the patience I can muster to browse this board without steam coming out of my ears. And believe me, all of the movie's flaws were apparent after one viewing. But more flaws than Alien, Blade Runner , or your typical sci-fi movie? Absolutely not. It was just scrutinized more than just about any film of recent years. The nitpicking that went on cannot be rationally justified. It was excessive, mean, and destructive to the creative health of the series. Alien fans feeling persecuted by Prometheus fans? That's so absurd you must be joking. How many topics are there on this board that mention a promise that this movie will "correct" Prometheus or some other backhanded remark? Are Prometheus fans supposed to say nothing while the community pretends that the best film in the franchise was a mistake? This is a really, really awful board if you have any respect for Ridley and his work. It's really disappointing.

    I share your views on this as well.

    Prometheus reignited my love of this series in a big way. I admit it has imperfections but all the constant negativity about it is frustrating.

     I've been listening to several podcasts recently related to this series of films and Covenant and there always seems to be discussion on the so called flaws of Prometheus, but never much on the positives.

    Anyway, in reference to the first post - I'm really exciting to see Guy as Weyland again. Fantastic actor IMO.
  37. Ingwar
    You didn't spend the last five years being trolled for liking it. Calling them a bitter minority bitter is generous. The rest of the internet, including this board, is hostile towards the fans. It takes all the patience I can muster to browse this board without steam coming my ears. And believe me, all of the movie's flaws were apparent after one viewing. But more flaws than Alien, Blade Runner , or your typical sci-fi movie? Absolutely not. It was just scrutinized more than just about any film of recent years. The nitpicking that went on cannot be rationally justified. It was excessive, mean, and destructive to the creative health of the series. Alien fans feeling persecuted by Prometheus fans? That's so absurd you must be joking. How many topics are there on this board that mention a promise that this movie will "correct" Prometheus or some other backhanded remark? Are Prometheus fans supposed to say nothing while the community pretends that the best film in the franchise was a mistake? This is a really, really awful board if you have any respect for Ridley and his work. Its really disappointing.

    You see I don't like this categorisation on Alien and Prometheus fans. There are people who like/love both. I like Prometheus and I don't feel being trolled for liking it. Besides it's the same universe. There are die-hard Alien fans who like Prometheus more than A:R.

    I don't find this board hostile towards fans. Obviously there're people who sometimes annoy me but it doesn't mean they're my enemies. We just have different opinions. It's life. If I were you I wouldn't take it personal.
  38. Protozoid
    You didn't spend the last five years being trolled for liking it. Calling them a bitter minority is generous. The rest of the internet, including this board, is hostile towards the fans. It takes all the patience I can muster to browse this board without steam coming out of my ears. And believe me, all of the movie's flaws were apparent after one viewing. But more flaws than Alien, Blade Runner , or your typical sci-fi movie? Absolutely not. It was just scrutinized more than just about any film of recent years. The nitpicking that went on cannot be rationally justified. It was excessive, mean, and destructive to the creative health of the series. Alien fans feeling persecuted by Prometheus fans? That's so absurd you must be joking. How many topics are there on this board that mention a promise that this movie will "correct" Prometheus or some other backhanded remark? Are Prometheus fans supposed to say nothing while the community pretends that the best film in the franchise was a mistake? This is a really, really awful board if you have any respect for Ridley and his work. It's really disappointing.
  39. BishopShouldGo
    I don't quite get what Guy is saying in the interview. When someone says "origins" in any of these Alien films, I immediately think of the lone Space Jockey on LV-426 in the original Alien/Nostromo film. So maybe I've got it wrong and we need a clear definition of what Ridley means when he says "origin" or "origins" because to me that means the original Alien/Nostromo film and the derelict ship and Space Jockey pilot. As a long-time fan, I always thought the "key" that might provide an answer to everything that happened on the Nostromo and afterward was in fact the derelict ship and the mysterious pilot. So saying that Ridley is going to go back to the origins of the original film would have to involve some discussion and additional information about the derelict craft and its pilot (at least in my mind). Yes, the xeno would also be part of this because it was all about the xeno in the original Alien film. I think, however, the xeno has been covered in great detail in all of the subsequent and related films. What's been missing is details and information about the Space Jockey. I think the 2012 Prometheus film made a small attempt at explaining more about the Space Jockey/Engineers...with us humans having a matching DNA to the Engineer on LV-223 and we see when the Engineer prepares for flight, his flight suit resembles what we saw in the Alien/Nostromo film, but Prometheus left quite a lot unanswered and I'm hoping it was supposed to be like that and not some type of oversight. So what does Ridley mean when he says something like going back to the origin or origins of the film? I immediately think Space Jockey in the original Alien film but that's just me and I could be wrong or off the mark.

    I really don't think he put too much thought into his answer. Origins is just a word.
  40. BishopShouldGo
    I miss the days of the cast and crew talking about Prometheus with philosophy, religion, robots, etc.

    Anyone notice how Alien: Covenant talk is similar to Untitled Alien prequel circa '09 talk? Monsters! Aliens! Scary!

    Then it turned into Prometheus and it was about the meaning of life. And now we're back to...muuuuunsters!

    Lindelof brought the goods in that regard.
    Yeah, but as Pearce says this is what Alien fans want. I really wish Prometheus had no connection to Alien. Alien fans have been horrid to Prometheus and its fans, and now Fox and Scott have shunned them, too. Fox is beyond stupid for doing this. The bitter Alien fans were a minority. Prometheus was a hit. This situation is everything wrong with modern audiences turned up to 11. It's a crime against science fiction cinema.

    Sad but true. I'm in total agreement. I'm a colossal Alien fan but wanted that continuation of deep movies using the mythology and Prometheus was a great first step. I just remember the good old days when we were treated to answers like Lindelof's. Example:

    "Finally, the scribe touched on how the title of Prometheus hints at the larger themes that are explored in the film:

    “I don’t want to sound like the movie is a history lesson, but I do think that the primary take away from the myth of Prometheus is that the Gods were nervous about mankind. They were nervous about what they would be capable of if they had fire. Fire was a big piece of technology that they would build off of. And the story of any creation is eventually a child will try to destroy its parents. It’s a very paranoid world view, mythologically-speaking it pops up a lot. Especially for us Star Wars aficionados. So the essential story is: I don’t want to give my kid this toy because eventually he will develop it into a weapon that will kill me. So I will therefore withhold it from him. And what is the price I must exact on somebody who betrays me?”

    A damn shame.

    Does the new Walter viral teaser give you hope though? I dig it and hope we get a lot of that kind of thing. Remember, Scott said that although Alien is in the title, he'll supposedly only be using the traditional tropes sparingly.
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