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Fred Dekker Talks Working On The Predator

Fred Dekker talks working on The Predator in a new interview with Moxie Sozo. Dekker isn’t able to give any massive updates on The Predator, re-iterating some of the points he’s previously spoken about.

Dekker was able to talk a little about how he’s found working on The Predator. When asked what it was like working within an existing franchise Dekker said:

“It’s easier in the sense that you don’t have to start with a blank page. The genre, the tone, and a lot of the specifics of the mythology are already established, so to a degree you’re free to paint a new picture with the existing colors. The downside is, sequels, reboots and remakes have historically had a tough go of it, creatively—and the new, rabid internet fan base makes it even harder.

The hardcore fans have their Shurikens sharpened (that’s a Predator weapon, by the way), just waiting for you to fail. So it’s a double-edge Shuriken: You want to do something new and fresh with the concept, but not alienate the core fan base who have a pre-set idea of what they want. It’s a tricky tightrope walk, for sure.

Ultimately, however, the worst thing for the creative process is a fear of failure, so we’re trying not to second-guess ourselves and go with our gut instincts. We’re making the Predator movie we want to see.”

 Fred Dekker Talks Working On The Predator

Fred Dekker talks working on The Predator in a new interview with Moxie Sozo. Artwork by Bayard Wu.

Fred Dekker also spoke a little about his ongoing involvement with the writing process, saying that he’d been working closely alongside Shane Black to ensure the script was specific to the casting and the shooting locations:

“I’ve been traveling to and from Vancouver to tailor the script to cast, locations, and budget requirements. So yes, it’s a fluid process.

Shane is really great about keeping me close as a sounding board, but at the same time I’m not the director, so if there are huge mistakes in the movie, I can always just blame him.”

And Dekker rounded off the The Predator part of conversation with this tidbit: “It has healthy doses of the trademark Shane Black wise-ass dialogue, foul language, and breathless action.

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Comments: 41
  1. echobbase79
    I need to see some more Dekker stuff.. my exposure is limited to Robocop 3 and some brief behind the scenes snippets in The Winston Effect. Interesting to hear about him still writing stuff as they're about to enter production, could actually be a good thing if he's kept close during the shoot considering Shane Black's own contribution as on-set writer in the original.

    I feel like most of us are trying to temper expectations but remain cautiously optimistic with this one. Black is very dependable and if he sticks to his word we should end up with something at least on the level of "Predators with better dialogue- at Christmas."

    I actually like that they're taking inspiration from the entire saga, even though AVP could've turned out better those films did a good job of introducing new toys and made these ugly muthas feel a bit more like an actual space-faring culture. They evolved the overall aesthetic and even the sound design of the first AVP expanded on what had gone before in interesting ways (like changing how the clicks sound in predator POV). So there's definitely stuff to mine there, and lessons to be learned of course.

    He had a miserable experience on Robocop 3. The new special edition being put out by Scream Factory should reveal some interesting behind the scenes stories. I don't know if I'll get it though because that movie is really bad.
  2. Nyarlathotep
    And that's where it should stay, in the comics.

    That's... Incredibly arbitrary of you.

    What makes you say that?

    I take a bit of offense to that idea.

    It's the truth.
    In retrospect, I agree. I took too much offense at his statement of Alien just being a simple monster movie. At the end of the day he is right though, it is a B movie concept with an A list script, cast, and direction.
  3. dinosauriac
    I need to see some more Dekker stuff.. my exposure is limited to Robocop 3 and some brief behind the scenes snippets in The Winston Effect. Interesting to hear about him still writing stuff as they're about to enter production, could actually be a good thing if he's kept close during the shoot considering Shane Black's own contribution as on-set writer in the original.

    I feel like most of us are trying to temper expectations but remain cautiously optimistic with this one. Black is very dependable and if he sticks to his word we should end up with something at least on the level of "Predators with better dialogue- at Christmas."

    I actually like that they're taking inspiration from the entire saga, even though AVP could've turned out better those films did a good job of introducing new toys and made these ugly muthas feel a bit more like an actual space-faring culture. They evolved the overall aesthetic and even the sound design of the first AVP expanded on what had gone before in interesting ways (like changing how the clicks sound in predator POV). So there's definitely stuff to mine there, and lessons to be learned of course.
  4. Nyarlathotep
    A crossover doesn't have to be god awful, though. I've never understood why the people on the Alien side had to be so pretentious and dismissive of the very idea.
    If wanting to protect the Alien franchise from another potential crossover makes me pretentious then so be it.

    I wasn't referring to you, but to how overdramatic Weaver, Scott, etc, all acted about the very idea of the concept.
    Oh, sorry for the confusion.
  5. KiramidHead
    A crossover doesn't have to be god awful, though. I've never understood why the people on the Alien side had to be so pretentious and dismissive of the very idea.
    If wanting to protect the Alien franchise from another potential crossover makes me pretentious then so be it.

    I wasn't referring to you, but to how overdramatic Weaver, Scott, etc, all acted about the very idea of the concept.
  6. Nyarlathotep

    I think there's plenty of space for an Alien vs. Predator to be good. The first 2 were just done on the cheap, with some wrong ideas. We've seen the concept be good in games and comics, just translate it across to film. I'm still holding out hope on eventually seeing it someday.
    It isn't about it potentially being good, I am just against the idea of such a film ever being made again. I understand that you and many others here love the idea, but I do not.

    The original comic shows that the concept has a lot of potential to be just as good as the best films in both series. Indeed, if AVP had gone forward in the 90s as planned, I think it would have been one of the best.

    And that's where it should stay, in the comics.
    I mean you can make a great movie out of any idea. Alien is just a monster movie.
    I take a bit of offense to that idea.

    A crossover doesn't have to be god awful, though. I've never understood why the people on the Alien side had to be so pretentious and dismissive of the very idea.
    If wanting to protect the Alien franchise from another potential crossover makes me pretentious then so be it.
  7. Corporal Hicks
    I think there's plenty of space for an Alien vs. Predator to be good. The first 2 were just done on the cheap, with some wrong ideas. We've seen the concept be good in games and comics, just translate it across to film. I'm still holding out hope on eventually seeing it someday.
  8. OpenMaw
    The original comic shows that the concept has a lot of potential to be just as good as the best films in both series. Indeed, if AVP had gone forward in the 90s as planned, I think it would have been one of the best.

  9. Nyarlathotep
    If this movie succeeds, we can place our bets on a revived AvP movie (barring Covenant does well). Childish bickering over which film is canon and which weapon is the coolest is fruitless. We, as the fan base, need to show support for the film, analyze the known details as they are revealed, and present a united critique, positive or negative, to inform those involved (because I'm sure some watch this site tirelessly) if they are going in the right direction or they need to change something.

    TLDR:
    Fanbase unite! Let FOX know if they're doing well or creating rubbish!     
    Sorry, but I refuse to unite around the idea of another god awful crossover film. The franchises need to remain separate permanently.
  10. genocyber
    I don't see FOX ever touching the AVP franchise ever again due to how mismanaged and failures both films were to pull in the big numbers. Alien seems to have a far more successful future ahead of it and would be a bad idea for the execs to pair it up with Predator againn.
  11. PRJ_since1990
    If this movie succeeds, we can place our bets on a revived AvP movie (barring Covenant does well). Childish bickering over which film is canon and which weapon is the coolest is fruitless. We, as the fan base, need to show support for the film, analyze the known details as they are revealed, and present a united critique, positive or negative, to inform those involved (because I'm sure some watch this site tirelessly) if they are going in the right direction or they need to change something.

    TLDR:
    Fanbase unite! Let FOX know if they're doing well or creating rubbish!     
  12. OpenMaw
    I honestly don't see anything wrong with the shurikens in AvP. They worked just fine in AVP and AVPR. I like the Smart Disc more because it fits the arsenals of the first two Predators moreso, but it's still a fine alternative.

    As far as the "Lost Tribe" ... I agree, the clans and everything depicted around the Predators since Predator 2 has seemed far less interesting. That short scene at the end of Predator 2 is one of it's best, shining moments. Each Predator feels fantastic and individual, and that's in large part because Stan Winston had his guys and gals break off and work on each one individually to give them character. "Here's your Predator. Here's a few parameters. Now go nuts."

    The AVP version of Predator culture seems very very clean and... Cold. It's very metallic and colorless. The impression we get in Predator 2 is a very worn and "Earthy" species. They're high tech encased in low-tech.
  13. brokentusk420
    IF they want to make a good movie, design wise, they should steer clear of those awful AVP movies and all the junk they brought to the predator arsenal. Everything was hacky and a desperate attempt to up the "cool factor" and came off as contrived and cheap...Over size retachable blades that wouldn't be possible nor were practical, the same with that lame shuriken which would not be possible. I just dont get how they came up with nine extra predators at the end of P2, all masterpieces, and the clowns that have been working on the latest movies cant make one. I guess its just the way of thw world. You step outside and look around and you can see how everything that use to have substance is now just a cheap knock-off. 
  14. prometheusfire08
    calling it ........


    the last 5mins of the movie will have the predator board his ship and hit orbit ..... a message is coming in on his scanner and a hologram of a band of fugitives comes up ....... scans show us it's the bad bloods from predators .....

    holograms of stars systems flash up , honing in on their last known location .....

    smash to black ......
  15. Kurai
    I totally forgot about the shurikens in AvP, I have to admit. Honestly, I think it's great to draw on all aspects of Predator lore for inspiration, regardless of whether something is Capital C Canon. Star Wars does something similar with its' Legends stuff these days IIRC.
    That they're digging into everything Predator related shows clear devotion, if it wasn't simply a mix up between Predator and Ninja ;), maybe it will help them sift through everything that went wrong and pull out everything that went right. The Predator scenes of AvP:R were some of the major redeeming moments for that film.
  16. Corporal Hicks
    he complaints about the fans and then he says "The hardcore fans have their Shurikens sharpened (that’s a Predator weapon, by the way)" which is BS because the Shurikens appear only on AVP and therefore they are not canon and also they are stupid lol

    And this is what Fred is talking about. ::)

    Gotta admit, the irony made me smile.

    Personally I'm a fan of the shurikens. The smart disc just looked a little too dull to me. Though it would be nice to see either in the new film. But above all, just bring us a good film.  :)
  17. Hemi
    Popcorn fun.

    I don't care if pssyface has katana's, long bows or whatever. I just want a nice predator movie , with good characters and an entertaining story. Just like the first one.

    But yeah... even this is hard to grasp for hollywood these days.
  18. D88M
    he complaints about the fans and then he says "The hardcore fans have their Shurikens sharpened (that’s a Predator weapon, by the way)" which is BS because the Shurikens appear only on AVP and therefore they are not canon and also they are stupid lol
  19. SiL
    I don't think I've ever seen a Predator use a shuriken in the films, that's a ninja weapon rather than an alien hunter weapon. From that little bit I think we can hope to see quite a bit of of Japanese inspired Predator weaponry and styling in the movie.
    The smart disc and AvP throwing stars were both referred to as shurikens by fans in the past.
  20. Infected
    Thats good, follow your gut.

    As i been a long time guest on this site, i see that there are many different views of people on the movies,
    its almost impossible to please them all.
    One likes AVP one like Alien3 one dislikes Alien3 some hate P2 some adore P2 but all are fans, i think this franchise is hard to make right now, so give it all you got, or dont go.

    Exactly. It's impossible to please everyone and to be aware of that and just go with what you want to make is the best way. I really hope this mean we aren't getting any reused dialogue as fan winking. lol Personally I'm loving everything I'm hearing about this film. I have real confidence in Black and Dekker.

    Sorry about the post

    It's no worries.  :)
    Im now mostly curious on what Black is gonna bring us, after all he played a part in the original one, as when i watch the making off Predator, you can easily say the actors were a little like the dirty dozen, each of them with there own character and personality,
    so im very curious on what Black is gonna deliver, as a part of the franchise as a director/writer and as a predator fan/visionaire.
    It certainly wont be an Iron Man 3 that im sure of by now.
    So lets start the show.

    I don't think I've ever seen a Predator use a shuriken in the films, that's a ninja weapon rather than an alien hunter weapon. From that little bit I think we can hope to see quite a bit of of Japanese inspired Predator weaponry and styling in the movie.

    Has the Naginata ever been used by a Predator outside the expanded universe? I can't remember... Either way, I think it's a nice shift considering the Predators in "Predators" had their roots in European hunting styles.
    Besides the disc in P2 i can only think of the AVP shuriken.
  21. Kurai
    I don't think I've ever seen a Predator use a shuriken in the films, that's a ninja weapon rather than an alien hunter weapon. From that little bit I think we can hope to see quite a bit of of Japanese inspired Predator weaponry and styling in the movie.

    Has the Naginata ever been used by a Predator outside the expanded universe? I can't remember... Either way, I think it's a nice shift considering the Predators in "Predators" had their roots in European hunting styles.
  22. Corporal Hicks
    Thats good, follow your gut.

    As i been a long time guest on this site, i see that there are many different views of people on the movies,
    its almost impossible to please them all.
    One likes AVP one like Alien3 one dislikes Alien3 some hate P2 some adore P2 but all are fans, i think this franchise is hard to make right now, so give it all you got, or dont go.

    Exactly. It's impossible to please everyone and to be aware of that and just go with what you want to make is the best way. I really hope this mean we aren't getting any reused dialogue as fan winking. lol Personally I'm loving everything I'm hearing about this film. I have real confidence in Black and Dekker.

    Sorry about the post

    It's no worries.  :)
  23. Infected
    Thats good, follow your gut.

    As i been a long time guest on this site, i see that there are many different views of people on the movies,
    its almost impossible to please them all.
    One likes AVP one like Alien3 one dislikes Alien3 some hate P2 some adore P2 but all are fans, i think this franchise is hard to make right now, so give it all you got, or dont go.
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