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Updated: Katherine Waterston to Play Ripley’s Mother?

I would like to preface this by stating that this is an unconfirmed rumor and we’re posting this because The Playlist is a reputable site. According to sources close to The Playlist, Katherine Waterston’s character in Alien: Covenant, Daniels, will be none other than Ellen Ripley’s mother.

“Sources close to film and actress tell us the Waterston will be playing Ellen Ripley’s mother in “Alien: Covenant,” which is an amazing twist and true to Ridley Scott’s promise that the post-“Prometheus” prequels will eventually lead right up to the first “Alien” movie. It should be noted however that Waterston isn’t the lead of the movie, and it’s an ensemble piece like “Prometheus.””

Ridley Scott spoke about Alien: Covenant having a connection to Ripley back in September 2015, leading many to speculate that the connection could be a character who is a relative of Ripley: “It’s more associated with Ripley, it’s a completely different angle, it’s more of a sequel. I’m coming in from the back end.”

Katherine Waterston and some of her fellow Alien: Covenant cast pose together at a NSW Waratahs game. Katherine Waterston to Play Ripley's Mother?

Katherine Waterston and some of her fellow Alien: Covenant cast pose together at a NSW Waratahs game.

In other minor Alien: Covenant news, executive producer Fred Baron spoke with the Sydney Morning Herald, saying that Covenant was “going great.” He further elaborated, saying that “the director and our producer love it here, not just living in Sydney but they’re loving working at the studio and the technicians and the actors.” Baron also reaffirmed that a further two Alien films are planned after Covenant.

Actor Billy Crudup has also spoken a little with Digital Spy about how he got involved with Alien: Covenant and what it’s like with Ridley Scott:  “I became aware of a role that hadn’t been cast yet, through my agent, and I put myself on tape for the casting director with my particular POV about who this character could be. It just happened to pair up with Ridley – it’s my good fortune. 

Working with him has been so kick-ass and I think he’s a really fascinating filmmaker and presence – a collaborator. He’s got a very clear idea about how it will be told cinematically.”

Thanks to Stolen and SuicideDoors for the news! What do you think of this latest report? Is this a possibility you’d be interested in seeing for Alien: Covenant? Let us know below!

Update 10/06/2016 – The spoiler has since been removed from The Playlist article with the notation: “Spoiler removed at the request of the studio.”



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  1. THE CITY HUNTER
    Except the last movie with Ripley was almost 20 years ago.  A whole generation of movie goers probably don't even know who Ripley is. 

    Sigourney Weaver still shows up in roles that are referencing the ALIEN series in some way. She's the big bad in "PAUL" with Simon Pegg, Nick Frost, Seth Rogen and they take lines from ALIENS. She is the ship's voice in "WALL-E".

    I'm sure there are other examples.

    I recall that many Prometheus fans argued that since Ridley Scott was the director of the first film, all his ideas were automatically great ones no matter what.  I'm actually rather curious to know whether they still think that in light of this new plot development or whether they changed their minds.


    The thing is... I think most people can agree that what Prometheus brought to the table was interesting and good but it was the execution of those good interesting ideas that fell short. Prometheus did attempt to expand the universe. The script and plot was damaged. But the ideas it brought to the universe were good. Some may say great.

    Also... people talking about Jones showing up... Is that a joke because of how cheesey and corny it is to have a Ripley in the movie to begin with? Cause... Cats are extremely lucky to live past 15. 11 year old Ripley isn't gonna have a kitty Jonesy.

    Could quality come out of Ripley's mom being in Covenant? Yes. I can see it going a number of ways in which it could still be good.

    1. A Ripley family member makes a cameo appearance.

    2. If there is a Ripley in the movie, they die. They sort of have to unless they conveniently get into stasis and don't get out until after the events of ALIENS. Which would be what? Almost 100 years.

    I'd rather see a familial connection to another main character if they have to at all. Maybe Dallas' uncle or dad. Hicks' granddad or grandma. If they wanted to have it not be a coincidence. Maybe someone related to Gorman (assuming he's from a military family) or someone related to Burke (assuming his family has always had ties to WY)
    It would not work how would Ripley be born if they die.
  2. Scorpio
    This is a terrible, cringey idea. Ahhhhh prequels, the bane of every film series.

    Im starting to think that the attn prequels get for doing convenient things like this, are what attracts the studio to the ideas. They like the negative attn. Maybe they figure it's easier to manufacture than positive attn.

    I'm not into conspiracies or anything but maybe it was deliberately leaked to drum up early publicity.  Considering how many publications picked up on the story and Fox's blatant 'Remove Spoiler' request (as if that wouldn't raise any eyebrows).  Maybe it's all part of the master plan.
  3. CainsSon
    I can see it going a number of ways in which it could still be good.

    1. A Ripley family member makes a cameo appearance.

    [...]

    I'd rather see a familial connection to another main character if they have to at all. Maybe Dallas' uncle or dad. Hicks' granddad or grandma. If they wanted to have it not be a coincidence. Maybe someone related to Gorman (assuming he's from a military family) or someone related to Burke (assuming his family has always had ties to WY)

    I dunno man. Even if it's just a walk-on cameo, it's still winking at the audience, and I hate that.

    That's a good way to phrase it actually.  This is Aliens not Deadpool.  We don't need any 4th wall breaking of any sort.

    They did specify that she isn't the lead since the film has an ensemble cast.
  4. Perfect-Organism
    I can see it going a number of ways in which it could still be good.

    1. A Ripley family member makes a cameo appearance.

    [...]

    I'd rather see a familial connection to another main character if they have to at all. Maybe Dallas' uncle or dad. Hicks' granddad or grandma. If they wanted to have it not be a coincidence. Maybe someone related to Gorman (assuming he's from a military family) or someone related to Burke (assuming his family has always had ties to WY)

    I dunno man. Even if it's just a walk-on cameo, it's still winking at the audience, and I hate that.

    That's a good way to phrase it actually.  This is Aliens not Deadpool.  We don't need any 4th wall breaking of any sort.
  5. Mr. Clemens
    I can see it going a number of ways in which it could still be good.

    1. A Ripley family member makes a cameo appearance.

    [...]

    I'd rather see a familial connection to another main character if they have to at all. Maybe Dallas' uncle or dad. Hicks' granddad or grandma. If they wanted to have it not be a coincidence. Maybe someone related to Gorman (assuming he's from a military family) or someone related to Burke (assuming his family has always had ties to WY)

    I dunno man. Even if it's just a walk-on cameo, it's still winking at the audience, and I hate that.
  6. Scorpio
    Except the last movie with Ripley was almost 20 years ago.  A whole generation of movie goers probably don't even know who Ripley is. 

    Sigourney Weaver still shows up in roles that are referencing the ALIEN series in some way. She's the big bad in "PAUL" with Simon Pegg, Nick Frost, Seth Rogen and they take lines from ALIENS. She is the ship's voice in "WALL-E".

    I'm sure there are other examples.

    Yeah, that's for the older fans, but the younger generation didn't grow up with Ripley.

    Quote
    I recall that many Prometheus fans argued that since Ridley Scott was the director of the first film, all his ideas were automatically great ones no matter what.  I'm actually rather curious to know whether they still think that in light of this new plot development or whether they changed their minds.



    The thing is... I think most people can agree that what Prometheus brought to the table was interesting and good but it was the execution of those good interesting ideas that fell short. Prometheus did attempt to expand the universe. The script and plot was damaged. But the ideas it brought to the universe were good. Some may say great.



    Also... people talking about Jones showing up... Is that a joke because of how cheesey and corny it is to have a Ripley in the movie to begin with? Cause... Cats are extremely lucky to live past 15. 11 year old Ripley isn't gonna have a kitty Jonesy.

    Creme Puff lived to 38.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creme_Puff_(cat)
  7. Chris!(($$))!
    Except the last movie with Ripley was almost 20 years ago.  A whole generation of movie goers probably don't even know who Ripley is. 

    Sigourney Weaver still shows up in roles that are referencing the ALIEN series in some way. She's the big bad in "PAUL" with Simon Pegg, Nick Frost, Seth Rogen and they take lines from ALIENS. She is the ship's voice in "WALL-E".

    I'm sure there are other examples.

    I recall that many Prometheus fans argued that since Ridley Scott was the director of the first film, all his ideas were automatically great ones no matter what.  I'm actually rather curious to know whether they still think that in light of this new plot development or whether they changed their minds.


    The thing is... I think most people can agree that what Prometheus brought to the table was interesting and good but it was the execution of those good interesting ideas that fell short. Prometheus did attempt to expand the universe. The script and plot was damaged. But the ideas it brought to the universe were good. Some may say great.

    Also... people talking about Jones showing up... Is that a joke because of how cheesey and corny it is to have a Ripley in the movie to begin with? Cause... Cats are extremely lucky to live past 15. 11 year old Ripley isn't gonna have a kitty Jonesy.

    Could quality come out of Ripley's mom being in Covenant? Yes. I can see it going a number of ways in which it could still be good.

    1. A Ripley family member makes a cameo appearance.

    2. If there is a Ripley in the movie, they die. They sort of have to unless they conveniently get into stasis and don't get out until after the events of ALIENS. Which would be what? Almost 100 years.

    I'd rather see a familial connection to another main character if they have to at all. Maybe Dallas' uncle or dad. Hicks' granddad or grandma. If they wanted to have it not be a coincidence. Maybe someone related to Gorman (assuming he's from a military family) or someone related to Burke (assuming his family has always had ties to WY)

  8. Scorpio
    I kind of hope it's true.  It would be a missed opportunity to not have Ripley in it somehow.  Given that it is a prequel to Alien and it is set in the right time frame for that to happen.
  9. XenoHunter99
    It will only damage the original if Ridley Scott pulls a George Lucas and changes the original cut of Alien to fit in with the prequels.  Otherwise, you can always just ignore it and watch the original Alien.

    I don't see that happening. More likely, the studio will come along some time after Scott is gone and remake the original to move faster and look more contemporary. And it will suck.

    I'm not jumping on the hate bandwagon until I see how it plays out, if it's even true.

    Yeah, might as well.  But my alarm bells are ringing.

    For good reason!

    So what are the odds of this actually being true? I know it was requested to be taken down, but maybe Fox just wants to avoid confusion with a false rumor? I hate this idea as much as anyone, but is there any chance we're literally getting upset over something that's not even true?

    50/50 chance. It would not surprise me either way. Ridley claimed there would be a Ripley connection. No one knows what that really means. We're lost in the land of fan theory and speculation. The rumor retraction adds intrigue.
  10. Scorpio
    There was a reason for Amanda to seek out her mother in Isolation. It made sense. Having Ripley's mother shoehorned in before ALIEN sounds like a disaster as far as plot goes. If they really try to link Ripley to the xenos before the Nostromo incident then its gonna be really bad/corny/far fetched and just damage the original.

    It will only damage the original if Ridley Scott pulls a George Lucas and changes the original cut of Alien to fit in with the prequels.  Otherwise, you can always just ignore it and watch the original Alien.
  11. FreeFacehugz
    There was a reason for Amanda to seek out her mother in Isolation. It made sense. Having Ripley's mother shoehorned in before ALIEN sounds like a disaster as far as plot goes. If they really try to link Ripley to the xenos before the Nostromo incident then its gonna be really bad/corny/far fetched and just damage the original.
  12. CainsSon
    The only thing that could potentially be good about this idea, is that it may be an element of a cross-sequel direction for the franchise. To me, at the stage the series is at, they really need to have some long term idea for where this is going. Maybe theyve finally noticed?
  13. Mr. Clemens
    So what are the odds of this actually being true? I know it was requested to be taken down, but maybe Fox just wants to avoid confusion with a false rumor? I hate this idea as much as anyone, but is there any chance we're literally getting upset over something that's not even true?

    You've got a point there... it was the website who used the word "spoiler", not Fox.

    So, there is still hope that it's not true.
  14. Adam802
    Another reason why the "prometheus canon" is crap and I will continue to disregard it in my own head-canon.  This is just too "universe-shrinking" and coincidental.  As it stands, I still only consider Alien, Aliens and (as of now) Alien 3 to be canon to me.  No Resurrection, No AVP, No Prometheus, etc.   

    Still hopeful/excited for Blomkamp's Alien V.....

  15. XenoZipper
    It's very possible it could just be over reacting at the moment but the thought of the idea is just horrible & we're mostly hoping it's not true. I remember when the 1st of the new Ninja Turtles came out & Michael Bay said something about them being aliens from space the Turtle community exploded with rage. Of course turned out to not be the case. I'm overly protective of this franchise & just don't want to see it go down this path but if it happens well, what can we do about? Not like any of us will be making the movie we're looking for anytime soon.
  16. Giger Beast
    So what are the odds of this actually being true? I know it was requested to be taken down, but maybe Fox just wants to avoid confusion with a false rumor? I hate this idea as much as anyone, but is there any chance we're literally getting upset over something that's not even true?
  17. hfeldhaus
    Can't say I'm happy about this news but I wasn't happy about Isolation linking to Ripley. If they are doing this they must justify the decision they've made and not just drop the name in as a link.
  18. xenoboners4everyone
    Eh, once the shit hits the fan; the carnage and Giger penis violations particularly, all this will be incidental, especially if the film is actually good overall, but seriously, once the ol' beast rears his head ya'll loose your collective shit.
  19. CainsSon
    I guess we're all just over-protective of this franchise because we know the damage hollywood has done to beloved franchises of late and for it to happen to this one...that would be tantamount to media treason.

    Theres very little room for error when youre dabbling in areas of movie canon, so many IP's have been scarred by lazy, poor or money grabbing tactics in screenwriting. So when something like this pops up it gets folk on edge,  and rightly so. Ill bet not once has anyone thought out a little bit of prequel fan fiction in their head and thought...hmmm...ripleys mum should be in this.

    Media treason? Hmm, it can't be any more treasonous than Resurrection. I don't recall anyone being strung up or otherwise imprisoned/executed for that crime.

    I hate the word canon, when it has corporate leanings, which it goes when concerning movie licenses, otherwise known as corporate property. I don't care what Dallas said, I'm not a huge fan of "standard procedure."

    All this being said, I don't understand why Ripley's mom has to be in this. It could be anyone aboard the Covenant. Doing it simply to say "Hey, look, it's the mother of the hero to the first movie!" feels--well, someone else compared it to the Belmonts versus Dracula, but part of the appeal of Alien is that you were a nobody in space, just a wheel in the corporate machine. Family or things back home simply weren't part of the equation. It added to the bleakness of the situation.

    ^^this. Its this type of stuff that made Alien's tone so memorable. It was just this monster that could be ancient and, we are unimportant. Drawing too many line between things sinks that ship.
  20. XenoHunter99
    If Ridley fails again i say reboot this prequel nonsense and let Guillermo Del Toro direct. Guillermo's all about Lovecraft and squidy monsters anyway. Imagine what he could do if he dusted off the Alien Engineers script and gave us that!

    He also responsible for the horrendously superficial 'Pacific Rim', so, uh... No. :)

    That was a kaiju movie. A certain amunt of silliness is par for the course. It was fine 'til the end, really. Happy Hollywood ending. It would have had more weight with more sacrifice. But Pan's Labyrinth says, when he puts his mind to it, he can do some serious weirdness and brutality. I think he could do a pretty good job with an Alien movie. I'd be interested to see it, anyway.
  21. NickisSmart
    I guess we're all just over-protective of this franchise because we know the damage hollywood has done to beloved franchises of late and for it to happen to this one...that would be tantamount to media treason.

    Theres very little room for error when youre dabbling in areas of movie canon, so many IP's have been scarred by lazy, poor or money grabbing tactics in screenwriting. So when something like this pops up it gets folk on edge,  and rightly so. Ill bet not once has anyone thought out a little bit of prequel fan fiction in their head and thought...hmmm...ripleys mum should be in this.

    Media treason? Hmm, it can't be any more treasonous than Resurrection. I don't recall anyone being strung up or otherwise imprisoned/executed for that crime.

    I hate the word canon, when it has corporate leanings, which it goes when concerning movie licenses, otherwise known as corporate property. I don't care what Dallas said, I'm not a huge fan of "standard procedure."

    All this being said, I don't understand why Ripley's mom has to be in this. It could be anyone aboard the Covenant. Doing it simply to say "Hey, look, it's the mother of the hero to the first movie!" feels--well, someone else compared it to the Belmonts versus Dracula, but part of the appeal of Alien is that you were a nobody in space, just a wheel in the corporate machine. Family or things back home simply weren't part of the equation. It added to the bleakness of the situation.
  22. xenoboners4everyone
    Honestly if it's executed well and has enough emotional gravitas and justification, then fine, we don't know enough at this point plot-wise to dismiss it with derision, not denying that it's unnecessary, if true, but as it stands it's not the worst thing imaginable.
  23. LordCassusSnow
    If Ridley fails again i say reboot this prequel nonsense and let Guillermo Del Toro direct. Guillermo's all about Lovecraft and squidy monsters anyway. Imagine what he could do if he dusted off the Alien Engineers script and gave us that!
  24. predxeno
    Based on Ridley's actions, it seems to me that he doesn't know what he's doing; he contradicts himself continuously and I get the feeling he's being guided by fan demand rather than a desire to tell a good story.


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  25. Himmelblau
    I know Prometheus could have been better and i think Ridley knows that, and now he is going to do what he wanted to do ever since the first Alien came out i don't think he will disappoint. 8)

    Give him a chance.
  26. EEV Repairman
    I guess we're all just over-protective of this franchise because we know the damage hollywood has done to beloved franchises of late and for it to happen to this one...that would be tantamount to media treason.

    Theres very little room for error when youre dabbling in areas of movie canon, so many IP's have been scarred by lazy, poor or money grabbing tactics in screenwriting. So when something like this pops up it gets folk on edge,  and rightly so. Ill bet not once has anyone thought out a little bit of prequel fan fiction in their head and thought...hmmm...ripleys mum should be in this.
  27. Himmelblau
    I don't really know why everybody's getting so bent out of shape over it. If Ridley did this just for connection sake, then yeah, it'd be pointless but I think this will be pretty pivotal to the plot for this film and the potential sequels he does. I wonder if we will actually see Ripley as a young girl. Is there anything in the expanded universe about her mother?

    You could say the same thing about Isolation. At first I didn't like the idea of using Amanda there but it worked really really and she was central to the plot while still keeping continuity in place.

    And bit of a strange one for a studio to request removal of what they reported as just rumour and speculation.

    I agree people need to wait and see how this pans out, she could either already have Ripley , and leave her on Earth while she goes on mission with Kitty Jonesy (Hence why Ripley has no knowledge of the alien).

    We need to wait to see how this pans out. We have waited over 4 years for a sequel don't rush to judge. 8)
  28. whiterabbit
    I don't really know why everybody's getting so bent out of shape over it. If Ridley did this just for connection sake, then yeah, it'd be pointless but I think this will be pretty pivotal to the plot for this film and the potential sequels he does. I wonder if we will actually see Ripley as a young girl. Is there anything in the expanded universe about her mother?

    You could say the same thing about Isolation. At first I didn't like the idea of using Amanda there but it worked really really and she was central to the plot while still keeping continuity in place.

    And bit of a strange one for a studio to request removal of what they reported as just rumour and speculation.

    This is essentially like The Terminator franchise all over again; the Connors were great but we most certainly didn't need them to be centered around every movie.  Now that franchise has become as stale and lifeless as the apocalypse it eschews.


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    I get the terminator premise but Ripley probably won't be in this, no wait, let's face it. Ridley's movie is Alien. Why wouldn't he want to connect these Prequels to Alien via Ripley? Oh... you're afraid that Ripley maybe be the chosen one. It's still not that big of a deal; no where as big of a deal as starting over after Aliens is.

    Put another way, sans Prometheus, I'm leaving that as more of a prologue; this prequel trilogy is going to lead straight into Alien. Think about how cool it would be if we had the entire Nostromo crew from Alien on board the Covenant? Now that would be asinine but Ripley's mum? Very likely helpful for marketing purposes and I wouldn't put it past Ridley trying to build some sort of character development in these movies to help solidify his B-Movie in the annals of film lore by given her a deeper back story. Could it back fire, sure but having rips mom in Covenant isn't the big deal every one is making it out to be.
  29. EEV Repairman
    In Alien Isolation it worked really well because it felt like a piece of the plot that worked and served to expand the universe and the canon. It wasn't too far fetched because it was entirely acceptable that her daughter would go searching and in that respect, encounter/be included in this nightmarish timeline of events.

    In Covenent however, I fail to see how, by adding Her mother, it adds any structural significance to the plot. For a Ripley to be intertwined in this story it just seems too tacked on for the sake of the moniker. It just doesnt make sense at the moment. Saying that, it is early days yet and i guess if they do go down this route then all will become clear...will there be a convincing reason for her inclusion though? That is the biggy.
  30. predxeno
    I don't really know why everybody's getting so bent out of shape over it. If Ridley did this just for connection sake, then yeah, it'd be pointless but I think this will be pretty pivotal to the plot for this film and the potential sequels he does. I wonder if we will actually see Ripley as a young girl. Is there anything in the expanded universe about her mother?

    You could say the same thing about Isolation. At first I didn't like the idea of using Amanda there but it worked really really and she was central to the plot while still keeping continuity in place.

    And bit of a strange one for a studio to request removal of what they reported as just rumour and speculation.

    This is essentially like The Terminator franchise all over again; the Connors were great but we most certainly didn't need them to be centered around every movie.  Now that franchise has become as stale and lifeless as the apocalypse it eschews.


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  31. EEV Repairman
    Cheers buddy, happy to be here.

    Im out on call at the minute...another bloody acid-burn again. I don't know what these marines were drinking out here but man this stuff is going through metal. Oh look...a funny little dead crab thingy...wait, thats not dead!!


    "huuurk...."

    Thud.
  32. The Alien Predator
    Hi chaps...long time lurker, first time poster.

    The thought of having a "Ripley" in this film simply reeks of cheese. Theres no foreseeable reason why she needs to be in it other than to use as a very flimsy "hook" on the fishing line for fans...but no...just no.

    I've neither got high hopes or low hopes for this film based solely on how Prometheus left a bad taste in my mouth...I've just got...optimism. Though this news (if true) is sending the see-saw of optimism into the negative side for me.

    Ps....i know its gonna sound cheesy but man i love this site, simply had to join in with the chit-chat for my fav films!!

    Pss....(Whispers quietly...)...Aliens rules!!

    Welcome to the site.  :)

    Since you're here... could you please fix my broken EEV?  :laugh:
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