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AvPGalaxy Reviews Predator – Incursion

October saw the release of the first in a new trilogy of Alien vs. Predator novels, Predator – Incursion. Once again published by Titan Books, this new series – titled The Rage Wars – is written by Tim Lebbon. You may recognize him as the man who wrote the first in Titan’s last trilogy of Alien novels, Alien – Out of the Shadows:

“Going into Predator – Incursion I had no idea how Tim Lebbon would follow on from the previous Alien vs Predator or Predator novels and he did it by giving it a completely different feel. We skip ahead to the 27th century where mankind is no longer struggling to expand into the galaxy and we’re now at a very advanced level.

Gone are the struggling frontiersmen and under-prepared military and the almost modern-day feel of the films, The Rage Wars has all the science-fiction bells and whistles and a completely fresh new feel.

You can tell Lebbon really enjoys the world building opportunities that being set so far into the future and away from the limitations of the earlier stories offers him and it’s really interesting to read. Details of humanities expansion into the galaxy are well described and paint a vivid picture of just how well mankind has taken to the stars but making it clear that their expansion is into only a tiny fraction of the galaxy.

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I have just uploaded my review of Predator – Incursion. Be sure to head on over to the Reviews section and check out my thoughts on the new series and take a look at some of our other reviews. Beware some spoilers!

Predator: Incursion is now available to buy in print and e-book: Amazon (UK) & Amazon (US).

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  1. The Alien Predator
    I think the lack of PredAlien is more due to story than any attempt to snub the concept. By all accounts, the Rage

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    That situation may change and a Queen maybe introduced later on down the line and an opportunity might open up.

    The prologue implies that the ship Lilliya sabotaged had a queen.

    But yeah, you're right. Also
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  2. Corporal Hicks
    I think the lack of PredAlien is more due to story than any attempt to snub the concept. By all accounts, the Rage

    Spoiler (click to show/hide)

    That situation may change and a Queen maybe introduced later on down the line and an opportunity might open up.
  3. predxeno
    It just occurred to me that the new AVP novel might try to deliberately avoid the subject of the Predalien.  I hope that the Predalien is featured in this story in some way, to me it's one of the staples of the series and it's really tragic that a concept that has been portrayed in so many good stories like AVP1999, AVP2, etc. will be avoided just because of one unpopular title.
  4. RakaiThwei
    And Rakai, you keep comparing this to Star Trek/Wars. Have you thought that an empty void makes the franchise like Dune or Firefly? All of these are good franchises so it doesn't exactly help the case of either side. Dune/Firefly are completely void of other civilizations, only humanity exists in space. But Alien had Space Jockeys from film one so there's immediate proof that there's other creatures out there besides humanity. It's undeniable. The question is "where are they?" And the whole "they're all dead" will just turn it into Dead Space.

    The only reason why I keep bringing up Star Trek and Star Wars is because I really don't watch a lot of futuristic space-setting Science Fiction. So those are the only two which I had happen to really know about that do have alien lifeforms in it. Of course I know about Babylon 5 but... who remembers that? I most certainly didn't until just now. And I had completely forgotten about Firefly-- then again I never really watched it, so I can't comment on that. As for Frank Herbert's Dune? Yeah, I never saw that either. Most Sci-Fi I don't even watch unless it's Alien, Predator, Robocop or Terminator-- which we all know why I watch those for.. Heh heh heh.

    And you're either missing the part where I said I'm not denying there is other life in the Alien-Predator universe other than Aliens, Predators and Space Jockeys, but what I am saying is that I liked the old universe where it was sparse with intelligent life.. and more visceral because of it. And most life out there WASN'T intelligent. The intelligent ones were far and few. All I'm saying is I preferred a universe where INTELLIGENT RACES (note, not life in general) are sparse, apathetic and downright sometimes cruel to the universe where intelligent life is being found more and more.

    That's all I'm saying, man.

    I just liked the old Alien-Predator universe where it was devoid and visceral, not teeming and cerebral. Just a matter of preference, man.
  5. The Alien Predator
    You can add to the galaxy without making it Star Trek. Personally I'd hate to see the galaxy teeming with life but I'd also hate to see it completely void of life. I'm after something in the middle. It'd just be nice to see one or two other new regular aliens (whether they're related to the Engineers or something completely independent) to keep it refresh because sooner or later, it'll run out of steam.

    Exactly. I prefer a perfect balance because sooner or later, it's just "Predator hunt humans on LV 1337", "Xenomorph infest colony on LV 228", "Predator hunt an Alien infestation on New Eden", "Xenos overrun ship".  *repeat cycle on different worlds and ships*

    But with fire and stone, it showed a panel of Ahab hunting various civilizations throughout the years and to me, it made the Predators infinitely more badass. Like they don't care, they will hunt multiple civilized races without a concern of sentient retaliation. When it's just humans, it kind of makes them seem like a bully race hunting either a primitive humanity or other wildlife. But here, they're hunting other civilized creatures.

    And Rakai, you keep comparing this to Star Trek/Wars. Have you thought that an empty void makes the franchise like Dune or Firefly? All of these are good franchises so it doesn't exactly help the case of either side. Dune/Firefly are completely void of other civilizations, only humanity exists in space. But Alien had Space Jockeys from film one so there's immediate proof that there's other creatures out there besides humanity. It's undeniable. The question is "where are they?" And the whole "they're all dead" will just turn it into Dead Space.

    I like that Alien is not teeming with life, so both sides can be happy. Like I said, Lebbon did the right thing by saying some pockets of the galaxy thrive with life while others are empty voids of silence. And the aliens that humans have met, it's not like we (the fans) have actually seen them. They don't work in our ships or visit our worlds. Decker from Sea of Sorrows didn't find any Arcturian hookers on Earth.  :P
  6. Corporal Hicks
    You can add to the galaxy without making it Star Trek. Personally I'd hate to see the galaxy teeming with life but I'd also hate to see it completely void of life. I'm after something in the middle. It'd just be nice to see one or two other new regular aliens (whether they're related to the Engineers or something completely independent) to keep it refresh because sooner or later, it'll run out of steam.
  7. RakaiThwei
    What's wrong with that?

    I've always pictured as extraterrestrials in general wanting VERY little to do with us, aside from distance observation. And if they do have something to want to do with us, I personally feel as if it's a very hostile reasoning. The Predators want to hunt us, the Aliens want to use us as breeding stock. I've always pictured the extraterrestrials in the Alien-Predator franchises as generally being either intelligent but hostile, or non-intelligent and hostile, or just non-intelligent wildlife. For the most part in the old EU, that's what we got aside from a few standout races. And I fully liked that idea.. It's what made the old Alien-Predator universe quite unique... no races wanted to help us, most were dead.. where as in Star Trek and Star Wars, you had an abundant of races who were always willing to help out one way or another.

    Technically, wasn't Machiko chum enough with the Predators to be accepted by them and allowed to live in their clan despite the Predator's suicidal protection to keep their tech out of human hands? Wasn't Alex the same with Scar to the point that he accepted her and gave her his clan mark? And we were on good relations with the Arcturians since "Aliens". So it's been like this since the old EU to some extent.

    I miss Machiko Noguchi. I really do miss her but she seems to have gone the way of Mara Jade.. But in regards to Machiko, I'm not arguing her treatment in the Predator clan which she ran with. So I have to ask, why even bring this up when I already know this? Well... in answer to this point.. Machiko was accepted because of her clan marking. She didn't have to go with them but she did because she felt like she didn't fit in with humans. And when she did join up with them well.. a lot of the Predators didn't like her. Top Knot merely TOLERATED her. As for Alexa Woods, who presumably went the way of Machiko Noguchi as Noguchi went the way of Mara Jade, well... sure, she was marked and she had earned enough respect to get a trophy of her own but she could've gone with them... but she didn't. Also as for Predators keeping tech out of human hands, I doubt a telescopic staff is enough to make us a threat and advance us by hundreds of years compared to say.. a plasma caster, and then there is the forensic doctor who had the spear tip. As much as I love(d) the Predator species and the Yautja concept... they've made mistakes here and there.

    As for the Arcturians, sure they've been around since Aliens but did anyone really know what they were supposed to be? I mean I've heard conflicting things that they were either these faceless beings who were humanoid, sentient insectoids, or were colonists who just named Arcturians. I've not read everything but I'm only telling you what I've heard from other fans over the years.

    I really don't get what's wrong with having some other intelligent creatures besides us in this franchise. It's kind of like people say about the real universe, space is so huge, there's gotta be something out there. In Alien, the Space Jockey is proof enough that there's other intelligences besides humanity. So if there's a Space Jockey, there's bound to be other things, albeit at a ridiculous distance away from us.

    It's a matter of preference. I just feel like adding in more intelligent life out there makes it like most other Sci-Fi genres out there and I point out to Star Trek the most. Now I am not questioning the possibility of other life out there, infact I am a firm believer that there is life out there but not quite a lot of it being intelligent. From what I'm hearing, I'm just hearing that these authors are trying to add in life bursting everywhere and... I just see it turning to something like Star Wars or Star Trek. I was fine with Aliens, Predators, Space Jockeys (before they became handsome Squidward) and Reapers but seeing more intelligent life in abundance... tone it down a little. We don't need one hundred fifty one races out there, just so we can catch'em all.
  8. The Alien Predator
    It would be pretty cool if Lebbon's 27th century got explored more, maybe in comics or something. Dark Star Trek sounds pretty cool to me. I like a middle ground where there are several alien races, but quite far apart from each other, separated by large swaths of dead space, and largely indifferent or hostile to each other. I like the idea of hinting that life used to be more common throughout space, until something big and bad happened.

    This pretty much sums up how I see the Alien universe. Maybe life has its cycles where at some point there are more and then something happens and then there are few.

    Like on Earth, where mass extinctions reduce things to a few.

    Now we've got races who are chummy-chum-chum cheroo with us.

    What's wrong with that?

    Technically, wasn't Machiko chum enough with the Predators to be accepted by them and allowed to live in their clan despite the Predator's suicidal protection to keep their tech out of human hands? Wasn't Alex the same with Scar to the point that he accepted her and gave her his clan mark? And we were on good relations with the Arcturians since "Aliens". So it's been like this since the old EU to some extent.

    The thing is, this stuff's not explored in the franchise. Even in Rage War, the characters are literally only humans, synthetics and Yautja.

    There's no Engineer, no Arcturian, no four armed thing, nothing. The "encounters" with other races are implied to be sparse and many of the races don't give a damn about us, the new books do say that while some were nice, others were either indifferent or hostile. Even the nice ones, we don't keep much contact with, hell, the only ones mentioned by name (as we call them) are the Arcturians with whom we're on good terms with, no one else is listed.

    Most races we've seen in the comics, humanity probably hasn't even encountered. Like the Reapers from Aliens: Reapers etc.

    I really don't get what's wrong with having some other intelligent creatures besides us in this franchise. It's kind of like people say about the real universe, space is so huge, there's gotta be something out there. In Alien, the Space Jockey is proof enough that there's other intelligences besides humanity. So if there's a Space Jockey, there's bound to be other things, albeit at a ridiculous distance away from us.

    I used to like the idea of this franchise being a dark, empty, soulless and barren void with just humanity, Aliens and Predators. But ever since Sea of Sorrows confirms "we've met loads of intelligent alien races" as of 2497, it was something I couldn't ignore as at that time, I kept going back and forth between "empty" galaxy and "has some life in it" galaxy, so Sea of Sorrows helped me solidify my choice.
  9. RakaiThwei
    Ugh, that's not for me personally.

    I'm the opposite in many ways. I'm all for a galaxy that is devoid of life, save for the xenomorphs and their related creators/opponents. It makes them all the more mysterious and frightening. If there are other alien races out there, especially ones that we've made contact with and traded with, it just ruins some of the mysticism for me.  A large part of the appeal of this universe is how grounded and realistic it is and I'd rather all that kind of stuff stayed in Star Trek.

    But that's just me.

    Agreed.. and if you ask me.. a universe like that is much more ominous than one that's just bursting with life like we see in Star Wars and Star Trek. I mean when I was reading the old EU and got the sense that the universe was devoid and only had sparse amounts of life, I got the impression that this was likely perhaps in cause to the Xenomorphs being spread around and killing many races. It made them more frightening, it gave the universe a sense of cynicism, hopelessness and danger.

    Now we've got races who are chummy-chum-chum cheroo with us.
  10. Ultramorph
    It would be pretty cool if Lebbon's 27th century got explored more, maybe in comics or something. Dark Star Trek sounds pretty cool to me. I like a middle ground where there are several alien races, but quite far apart from each other, separated by large swaths of dead space, and largely indifferent or hostile to each other. I like the idea of hinting that life used to be more common throughout space, until something big and bad happened.
  11. The Alien Predator
    It's a good thing that the franchise has the best of both worlds.

    Fans who like their devoid of life, silent, grim, dark, cynical, scary, uncaring galaxy can still enjoy it.

    And other fans will get the occasional mention or peek at another civilization trying to etch out a living in the very galaxy described in the sentence above and enjoy it too.

    I think Tim Lebbon picked a smart move by saying it depends on where you are in space. We didn't discover Arcturians until probably the 2160's or 70's as there's no mention of anything in Out of the Shadows about this. That goes to show how far apart all intelligent life are.

    Also, another thing that's very unique here is that we haven't actually seen any interactions between humans and these other races mentioned in the books, except Engineers and Predators. And speaking of Engineers, it's highly unlikely that Earth was their only petri dish.

    And for me personally, adding some more races feels refreshing. I feel there's only so many stories you can tell with just Xenomorphs and Yautja before it gets repetitious. As a fan, I can watch millions of "Predator hunt on *insert world*" movies, but sometimes, I just wanna see a bit more.
  12. TheBATMAN
    Ugh, that's not for me personally.

    I'm the opposite in many ways. I'm all for a galaxy that is devoid of life, save for the xenomorphs and their related creators/opponents. It makes them all the more mysterious and frightening. If there are other alien races out there, especially ones that we've made contact with and traded with, it just ruins some of the mysticism for me.  A large part of the appeal of this universe is how grounded and realistic it is and I'd rather all that kind of stuff stayed in Star Trek.

    But that's just me.
  13. The Alien Predator
    You know if they introduce enough races, they could actually turn this into a very compelling TV series like a dark, cynical Star Trek...

    I'd LOVE that.

    The Rage War era technology is incredibly advanced and had a cool space battle with humans against the Yautja. The battles were pretty grounded and realistic as well. I always wanted to see ship weaponry in use in this franchise as it's something we hardly ever get to see.

    The book says that "some areas of the galaxy thrive with life while others are barren and empty" with certain corners "haunted" by Xenomorphs who no doubt wiped everything out in their vicinity.
  14. The Alien Predator
    I love it when this franchise introduces other alien races. My favourite bit from Fire and Stone is the panels that show Ahab hunting various aliens throughout the years. The four armed red skinned tribal aliens, the more advanced bug like race with technology that may be decades away from us currently, and then finally this race that wore full futuristic body armour and had holographic technology showing an Engineer.

    This is why I loved Prometheus so much, it opened new doors for the franchise and has given us a perfectly valid excuse for why some aliens can be similar to us. I bet Engineers created Arcturians too.

    We never knew what the Arcturians from "Aliens" were, many thought they were human colonists on Arcturus. That it was the red light district of space where Colonial Marines went to let off some steam.

    But Sea of Sorrows confirms that the Arcturians were the first intelligent alien race that humanity met. Since then, my curiosity about the Arcturians has went through the roof. They were mentioned in River of Pain as being "Trading Partners" with humans. Tim Lebbon has also teased that he will mention the Arcturians but not feature them.
  15. LordCassusSnow
    You have a great love of arcturians guan thwei. You seem to be screaming for more of that specific civilisation. But why? All we ever got from the films is that they seem to have both male and female organs that are compatible with ours unless...wait, are you ricco ross, man?? Are you just trolling us ricco ross??
  16. LordCassusSnow
    Next time someone should ask tim if he could draw us some concept art of the dog and slug aliens. And then the xenos that come from those dog aliens so neca can make aliens figures from them! Oh and i'd also like to see what the queen and soldier aliens looked like from the derelict in river of pain. They had to be different from the colony hive right? I mean, i dont think they were made from humans unless engineers abduct us...but I do remember a human being dissected on an engineer slab in one of the fire and stone comics...
  17. happypred
    Sexual dimorphism aside...not seeing massive differences among these thee interpretations. The cultures aren't that much different. If someone thinks otherwise, please point out the significant cultural differences. I'm all ears
  18. The Alien Predator
    I would argue that Perry's Yautja, Vandermeer's Predators, and Lebbon's Yautja are all nomadic, tribalistic hunters with an alien but somewhat understandable sense of honour/code of conduct. Only the Hish are really divergent.

    If you wanna tie them altogether, that's fine but that would require some serious tweaking. I mean...I would think Perry and Vandermeer's interpretations would be able to better tied together than with Lebbon's.

    From what Vandermeer has said about his Predators in the "Ask Jeff" thread, it's a lot easier to tie his ideas with those of Lebbon's.

    One huge thing comes to mind, they both have females that are identical to the males. Unlike Perry's Yautja. So you'd still have to do tons of tweaking to fit Jeff's with Perry's.

    And Jeff was asked about if his Predators had "scientists", and he was mentioning how if they did, they'd probably be enslaved or the technology may have been stolen by the Predators and learned how to be operated. That's some Hish like behaviour there.

    So in conclusion, Jeff's and Lebbon's could very easily be the same biological species, the behavioural differences could be attributed to different clan cultures.

    But besides that, I don't think Jeff did a lot of elaborating on the females in the actual book. I haven't read it so I can't say.
  19. RakaiThwei
    I would argue that Perry's Yautja, Vandermeer's Predators, and Lebbon's Yautja are all nomadic, tribalistic hunters with an alien but somewhat understandable sense of honour/code of conduct. Only the Hish are really divergent.

    If you wanna tie them altogether, that's fine but that would require some serious tweaking. I mean...I would think Perry and Vandermeer's interpretations would be able to better tied together than with Lebbon's.
  20. happypred
    I would argue that Perry's Yautja, Vandermeer's Predators, and Lebbon's Yautja are all nomadic, tribalistic hunters with an alien but somewhat understandable sense of honour/code of conduct. Only the Hish are really divergent.
  21. Perfect-Organism
    I remember seeing a scan online of a comic, I think it was Three World War, it had the Killer Clan in it. Machiko Noguchi was telling a marine leader how the Hunters won't see him as a leader. In one of the scans, if I remember correctly, she said "Yautja". I may be wrong but I really think that's probably the only comic that used the term.

    I don't recall the comic using the term Yautja. Not sure if you're refering to the individually collected issues or the trade edition but.. I don't ever recall it using those words. Infact... I've got my comic box in front of me.. Maybe I should look for you.

    Sorry Rakai.  I stand corrected and it looks like Yautja did not come from the comics.  I'm getting old I think.  I wish I could use your time machine and undo my Randy Stradley Yautja post.   :-[
  22. Corporal Hicks
    Stradley stuck more with the films, and the term Yautja did not originate in the original comics. Stradley did not name the Predator race either, as the narrative was more from a third person point of view. Steve Perry pretty much came up with the Yautja concept. So... that credit does go to Perry.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the term originated in the Aliens Vs. Predator comic.  I don't recall it in the films.
    The term Yautja originated in the Perry novel, not the comic. It's not used in the films (although it is used for the film merchandise).

    Really?  It's been ages since I read those.  I was sure it was in the comics.  Got to recheck...

    100% originates from the novels.

    I remember seeing a scan online of a comic, I think it was Three World War, it had the Killer Clan in it. Machiko Noguchi was telling a marine leader how the Hunters won't see him as a leader. In one of the scans, if I remember correctly, she said "Yautja". I may be wrong but I really think that's probably the only comic that used the term.

    I don't recall the comic using the term Yautja. Not sure if you're refering to the individually collected issues or the trade edition but.. I don't ever recall it using those words. Infact... I've got my comic box in front of me.. Maybe I should look for you.

    Please do. I can't remember that too.
  23. RakaiThwei
    I remember seeing a scan online of a comic, I think it was Three World War, it had the Killer Clan in it. Machiko Noguchi was telling a marine leader how the Hunters won't see him as a leader. In one of the scans, if I remember correctly, she said "Yautja". I may be wrong but I really think that's probably the only comic that used the term.

    I don't recall the comic using the term Yautja. Not sure if you're refering to the individually collected issues or the trade edition but.. I don't ever recall it using those words. Infact... I've got my comic box in front of me.. Maybe I should look for you.
  24. The Alien Predator
    Nope, it's definitely from the Perry novel, it's not in the original comic. :)
    In fact I don't think the term Yautja has been used in *any* comic.

    I remember seeing a scan online of a comic, I think it was Three World War, it had the Killer Clan in it. Machiko Noguchi was telling a marine leader how the Hunters won't see him as a leader. In one of the scans, if I remember correctly, she said "Yautja". I may be wrong but I really think that's probably the only comic that used the term.
  25. Perfect-Organism
    Stradley stuck more with the films, and the term Yautja did not originate in the original comics. Stradley did not name the Predator race either, as the narrative was more from a third person point of view. Steve Perry pretty much came up with the Yautja concept. So... that credit does go to Perry.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the term originated in the Aliens Vs. Predator comic.  I don't recall it in the films.
    The term Yautja originated in the Perry novel, not the comic. It's not used in the films (although it is used for the film merchandise).

    Really?  It's been ages since I read those.  I was sure it was in the comics.  Got to recheck...
  26. Xenomrph
    Stradley stuck more with the films, and the term Yautja did not originate in the original comics. Stradley did not name the Predator race either, as the narrative was more from a third person point of view. Steve Perry pretty much came up with the Yautja concept. So... that credit does go to Perry.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the term originated in the Aliens Vs. Predator comic.  I don't recall it in the films.
    The term Yautja originated in the Perry novel, not the comic. It's not used in the films (although it is used for the film merchandise).
  27. Perfect-Organism
    Stradley stuck more with the films, and the term Yautja did not originate in the original comics. Stradley did not name the Predator race either, as the narrative was more from a third person point of view. Steve Perry pretty much came up with the Yautja concept. So... that credit does go to Perry.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the term originated in the Aliens Vs. Predator comic.  I don't recall it in the films.
  28. The Alien Predator
    I know that Perry's Yautja also had acute senses.. Such as being able to pick up smells that human olfactory senses weren't able to pick up, being able to hear things more acutely... Do Lebbon's "Yautja" have such senses which they use on the Hunt?

    Not much was explored on their other senses.

    But their sense of sight, from what you see on the films you would assume it's not as acute. In the book however, Yautja are able to see small details you'd think they would easily miss.

    Like Kalakta knew that Harrigan had "dark skin", despite in the film Harrigan shown bright red like any other human.

    And Hashori was able to notice
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    But the main thing that's explored is their intelligence. Out of all the Predators in the eu, these must be the brainiest hunters. They build and modify their own ships individually, clans build the same tech independently without trading or sharing knowledge, technology actually progresses "incredibly quickly" AND they are too stubborn to let humans beat them at certain things like cloaking so they improve very quickly, almost a week later your "top gear" is now obsolete by new and improved Yautja tech.

    And I forgot to mention something, do you remember the Disc Master in AvP Extinction? The upgrade gives you a "Nanovibronic Edge" for your disk, remember?

    Funny thing is... Lebbon's Yautja use "Nanovibronic Blades". Now, I searched up the word and lots of Predator results pop up... interesting. Maybe Lebbon stumbled upon the word during his research and figured it sounded sexy so he adopted it?  ;D

    The Xenopedia wiki uses the abhorrent "e-wat-ya"... where they got that from, I have no idea.

    Supposedly Steve Perry clarified that as the correct pronunciation in an interview.

    Really?  ??? I checked the "Ask Steve Perry" thread and he specifically said "Ya-oot-cha".
  29. RakaiThwei
    I think you've clutching at straws here. There was nothing in his post that indicated that's what he believed. He specifically said not to read into anything about the multiverse. I know you want it, Rakai, but it's not something they seem to be officially or canonically putting in there.

    I was specifically talking about Batman and how he more or less referred to the interpretations of the Predators and how he calls the interpretations/continuities separate universes. And I've already expressed my disappointment, no need to crush a man's dreams any further, man!  :'( :laugh:
  30. Corporal Hicks
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    I'm not sure how he'd have pulled that off convincingly though - we know what caused the Alien outbreak. We saw it. It was 2 Aliens wailing on another. It'd be contrived to have her there are the same time and let out all the others at that same moment. I'm kind of glad we didn't get it. No more revisionist history please.

    Ok, I'm actually trying to not read this thread as I'm still reading the book, but I couldn't help noticing mention of "Perry's Yautja".  What is this about "Perry's Yautja" you speak of?  Is this implying that the Perrys invented the Yautja concept?  Please say it isn't so.  That book "Prey" was strictly speaking an adaptation of the original series by Randy Stradley.  So let's make sure to give credit where credit is due and say "Stradley's Yautja".

    Even though Prey is an adaptation, the Yautja are the Perry's invention. That wasn't in Randy Stradley's comic. The Perry's invented the details of that culture. It certainly is the Perry's Yautja.

    Batman hit the nail on the head with Lebbon using the Yautja name, but not the concept. Also, it seems from his posts that he too believes that there is a multiverse thing going on since he mentions the old universe, the Perryverse, and the new current universe. He's got the right idea.

    I think you've clutching at straws here. There was nothing in his post that indicated that's what he believed. He specifically said not to read into anything about the multiverse. I know you want it, Rakai, but it's not something they seem to be officially or canonically putting in there.
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