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Predator 4 Will “Make You Excited Again”

News on Shane Black’s upcoming Predator 4 has been quite scarce since the initial announcements last July. Whilst originally touted as a reboot, Black came out and called the upcoming film an “inventive sequel“. Collider spoke to the Predator series producer, John Davis, at the Television Critics Association where Davis was promoting his new TV series, The Player and asked him about Predator 4:

“Shane shot a movie and he’s doing a pilot now, but I’ve read a lot of his script and I think it’s genius. I think it’s genius and I think it’s entertaining, and what it did is recreate a famous franchise in a different, interesting way; looking at it from a different light. He’s just an amazing writer-director. He’s got a way of looking at this that makes you excited again.”

“Shane’s got a writing partner, Fred Dekker. They’ve been doing it together and Fred’s great. The two of them together, they’ve been in the business for a long time, but the writing is so fresh, the perspective is so fresh. I’m telling you you’re going to get something you don’t expect and you’re going to say, ‘This is the most entertaining way to reinvent a franchise.”

Shane Black also played Hawkins in the original Predator.  Predator 4 Will

Shane Black also played Hawkins (second from the left) in the original Predator.

Again Davis avoids calling Predator 4 a reboot and Collider makes a point of the phrase “reinvent the franchise” but what I really took notice of is the way Davis refers to Black “looking at it from a different light.” Reading into it a little I would suggest that perhaps Shane Black’s Predator 4 will try to break the mould and try something different from the previous films.

Unfortunately we still don’t have any information on when production on Predator 4 will get under full steam but be sure to keep checking back for further news. Thanks to ace3g for the tip.



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  1. Xenomorphine
    But the second one was forgettable, too. The only great thing about it was Cain's robotic design.

    Even the first one isn't as good as I used to remember it being when little. It's a fascinating concept, but I don't think any of the films have really done justice to the premise. Aside from ED-209's design, much of the decent stuff was essentially ripped from 'Judge Dredd' (quite literally in the case of the 'crotch shot' scene).
  2. Infected
    The part that he did Iron Man 3 concerns me, that was one of the worst Marvel movies together with Thor 2.

    What concerns me is Fred Dekker writing this movie. Don't get me wrong, I like many of Dekker's movies like Night of the Creeps and Monster Squad but let's not forget that the man wrote and directed Robocop 3, a movie which killed the Robocop franchise but also Fred's career as a director.

    Ironic enough, Shane also had a part in Robocop 3 as a minor role.
    Loved Night of the Creeps though, classic :D

    Robocop 3 was bad in its execution, if it was done in the same style as 1 and 2 i think we would have gotten a worthy ending to the series.
  3. HuDaFuK
    What concerns me is Fred Dekker writing this movie. Don't get me wrong, I like many of Dekker's movies like Night of the Creeps and Monster Squad but let's not forget that the man wrote and directed Robocop 3, a movie which killed the Robocop franchise but also Fred's career as a director.

    How many of RoboCop 3's problems were created by the studio though? By all accounts it was they who pushed for a kid-friendly movie after the first two.
  4. RakaiThwei
    The part that he did Iron Man 3 concerns me, that was one of the worst Marvel movies together with Thor 2.

    What concerns me is Fred Dekker writing this movie. Don't get me wrong, I like many of Dekker's movies like Night of the Creeps and Monster Squad but let's not forget that the man wrote and directed Robocop 3, a movie which killed the Robocop franchise but also Fred's career as a director.

    Ironic enough, Shane also had a part in Robocop 3 as a minor role.
  5. DUB1
    Oh my gawd! Dude! If you want to read a movie novelization that's soooo wildly different than the movie it's supposed to be based on, you should check out the first predator novelization! I'm pretty sure it was written based solely on the original script and the writer probably never bothered to change it after seeing the actual movie. The predator itself, if I remember correctly was the weird reptilian beetle thing that was originally planned befor Stan Winston got involved, running around with a sword and had the ability to shape shift into birds and such for some reason... I have the book, and read snippets then stopped. It wasn't predator! It was weird! Only real similarities were the character names and the book's cover had arnie in the crosshairs on it...

    I'd love to see the Predator that we got take on the original one. Or to see the original get it's own movie. Am I the only one that wouldn't mind the latter? Just call it something other than Predator, of course.
  6. The Alien Predator
    I have. The first Predator novel is kinda whack... :)

    I just really don't like it's take on the monster. It's interesting how different it is but it's also vastly inferior to the version the film (and Stan Winston!) gave us. I also didn't like how most of the human characters came across as assholes rather than lovable badasses. The movie definitely softened them a lot.

    Still, nice to know what really happened to Billy :P

    Definitely my least favourite of all the novelisations. The Predator 2 novel is amazing though.


    I'm curious about what happened to Billy. Would you mind spoiling it for me?
  7. Engineer
    Just a couple of weeks ago you were saying its deviations from the film make it non-canon, but I understand that it's still worthy of appreciation as a standalone! :-).

    Was I?

    Even if I did, the fact it doesn't quite gel with the film doesn't stop it being a really enjoyable read.

    Well, no not exactly. I was stretching the truth quite a bit actually... But not intentionally though; More so due to a faulty memory. Lol. My bad!

    I didn't wanna bring the novel into it because, you know, it's not the film, but yes, the book makes it abundantly clear the Predator is specifically following Harrigan.
  8. Engineer
    I have. The first Predator novel is kinda whack... :)

    I just really don't like it's take on the monster. It's interesting how different it is but it's also vastly inferior to the version the film (and Stan Winston!) gave us. I also didn't like how most of the human characters came across as assholes rather than lovable badasses. The movie definitely softened them a lot.

    Still, nice to know what really happened to Billy :P

    Definitely my least favourite of all the novelisations. The Predator 2 novel is amazing though.
    I'm honestly a little surprised to hear you say predator 2's novelization was amazing! Just a couple of weeks ago you were saying its deviations from the film make it non-canon, but I understand that it's still worthy of appreciation as a standalone! :-).

    But yes, I completely agree! Predator's novelization portrayed the creature terribly! I kind of like the fact that all the characters came off as complete assholes, though. Seems more realistic for a bunch of hardened soldiers.
  9. THE CITY HUNTER
    Predator 4 is the only movie i am excited about crying over alien 3 and dont care about Prometheus thank god  it was a sequel because both of my favorite film franchise was going to be rebooted and retconned.
  10. HuDaFuK
    I have. The first Predator novel is kinda whack... :)

    I just really don't like it's take on the monster. It's interesting how different it is but it's also vastly inferior to the version the film (and Stan Winston!) gave us. I also didn't like how most of the human characters came across as assholes rather than lovable badasses. The movie definitely softened them a lot.

    Still, nice to know what really happened to Billy :P

    Definitely my least favourite of all the novelisations. The Predator 2 novel is amazing though.
  11. Engineer
    That's the fun of reading novelizations! To see how things changed!

    Yea, I got the novelization to ehance my appreciation of the movie; see what the predator was thinking rather than just what it sees... That sort of thing. It did indeed enhance my appreciation of the movie, only in a very different way; I caught a glimpse of the B monster movie that almost was... Lol

    Just out of curiosity, hicks- have you read it? Or has anyone around here read it?
  12. Engineer
    Thanks for reminding me of that bit, Rakai. I guess Arnie is known in the sense that he is searchable on their databases. Since this is an entire race, I think some Predators may recognize Arnie, while others would be ignorant.

    Mind you I don't consider the novelization of Predator 2 as canon, as there are some things which contradict the film but I would think that there is something going on with Predators being aware of losses happening on Earth. I would think that most Predators know that there have been losses on other world, but most.. just couldn't care less. It happens quite a lot, and it's expected for them to die on the hunt, really.

    Unless you count PREDATORS into the formula, then Noland's words could apply,  you know the whole: "Everytime we kill one of them, that's when they get REAL interested" may apply perhaps to the Super Predators. Not so sure about the normal Predators though but I just think they wouldn't care.

    The Elder in Predator 2 more or less had some... acknowledgement of Harrigan's accomplishment, but the attitude was more like: "Hey, you won.. here's a cookie, now get the f**k off my ship."

    Oh my gawd! Dude! If you want to read a movie novelization that's soooo wildly different than the movie it's supposed to be based on, you should check out the first predator novelization! I'm pretty sure it was written based solely on the original script and the writer probably never bothered to change it after seeing the actual movie. The predator itself, if I remember correctly was the weird reptilian beetle thing that was originally planned befor Stan Winston got involved, running around with a sword and had the ability to shape shift into birds and such for some reason... I have the book, and read snippets then stopped. It wasn't predator! It was weird! Only real similarities were the character names and the book's cover had arnie in the crosshairs on it...
  13. koushik sen
    it is not clear that what will be the story line,as per last film predators,where it ends,lets find the way out of this planet,from this dialog this next movie can be start and run for it,same cast can be arrange,some twist can be put,instead of returning earth they are visiting the predators planet,and found some other things which can be amazed to viewers,... 

    In predator 2, at the end, dany glover gets a weapon as a gift where is writen 1715 on it. Why nobody directs a true predator 3 with this background. This weapon could be a good thing to bring the predator on a setting like pirates of caribean, where the predator hunts pirates and shipmens in a carribean setting.
  14. pred169


    The Elder in Predator 2 more or less had some... acknowledgement of Harrigan's accomplishment, but the attitude was more like: "Hey, you won.. here's a cookie, now get the f**k off my ship."

    I literally fell out of my chair I was laughing so hard.
  15. RakaiThwei
    Thanks for reminding me of that bit, Rakai. I guess Arnie is known in the sense that he is searchable on their databases. Since this is an entire race, I think some Predators may recognize Arnie, while others would be ignorant.

    Mind you I don't consider the novelization of Predator 2 as canon, as there are some things which contradict the film but I would think that there is something going on with Predators being aware of losses happening on Earth. I would think that most Predators know that there have been losses on other world, but most.. just couldn't care less. It happens quite a lot, and it's expected for them to die on the hunt, really.

    Unless you count PREDATORS into the formula, then Noland's words could apply,  you know the whole: "Everytime we kill one of them, that's when they get REAL interested" may apply perhaps to the Super Predators. Not so sure about the normal Predators though but I just think they wouldn't care.

    The Elder in Predator 2 more or less had some... acknowledgement of Harrigan's accomplishment, but the attitude was more like: "Hey, you won.. here's a cookie, now get the f**k off my ship."
  16. The Alien Predator
    Quote from: Guan Thwei 1992
    I think some Predators know about Dutch and Harrigan, but really don't care. Plus hunting season may be over and it may take a 100 years for the next to start (since they aren't poachers), whose gonna go after a geriatric Arnie?

    The novelization of Predator 2 mention that the Predators do know about Dutch as he was one of the few, or first to ever defeat a Predator. I never read the novel but it's wiki article on Xenopedia.

    As for a Predator hunting an old, aged Dutch? I don't know.. but I most certainly wouldn't want to see that.


    Thanks for reminding me of that bit, Rakai. I guess Arnie is known in the sense that he is searchable on their databases. Since this is an entire race, I think some Predators may recognize Arnie, while others would be ignorant.
  17. RakaiThwei
    Quote from: Guan Thwei 1992
    I think some Predators know about Dutch and Harrigan, but really don't care. Plus hunting season may be over and it may take a 100 years for the next to start (since they aren't poachers), whose gonna go after a geriatric Arnie?

    The novelization of Predator 2 mention that the Predators do know about Dutch as he was one of the few, or first to ever defeat a Predator. I never read the novel but it's wiki article on Xenopedia.

    As for a Predator hunting an old, aged Dutch? I don't know.. but I most certainly wouldn't want to see that.
  18. The Alien Predator
    That scene at the end of 'Predator 2' tells us they don't give a shit if you manage to best one of them in combat. Just don't take their technology and try to blow the rest of them up.

    If you kill one of them, it's not like their dad's going to come at you for it or whatever.

    And if it was, why the f**k would they take so long getting their act in gear to do it?


    They either don't know about Dutch (the most likeliest answer), have no way to locate him or just don't give a damn.


    This bit gave me a good chuckle.  ;D

    But it's certainly true, they have strict rules and acknowledge respect, but in the end, it's not something they get all worked out over.

    Predators are really salty about their culture (how they got angry with humans simply treading on the sacred grounds in AvP2010) that's something a Predator would slaughter a whole squad of Colonial Marines over rather than going to avenge his little brother that lost to some random human on Earth.

    I think some Predators know about Dutch and Harrigan, but really don't care. Plus hunting season may be over and it may take a 100 years for the next to start (since they aren't poachers), whose gonna go after a geriatric Arnie?
  19. RakaiThwei
    I am not sure what we are getting from the different perspective angle but I really don't want to go to the Predator homeworld. We saw a glimpse of it in AvP-R if you count that. And the whole Predator only film angle, where there are no humans... might work for a fan film or animated short but that's it.
  20. System Apollo
    I'd think that any who defeat a Predator are given interest as being better prey.
    Kind of like a bounty. I like that and I think it plays off well given the kind of role the predator plays.

    People have been in enough movie. Why not make a predator movie with just the predators. And they won’t have to hold back because they will be against the same skilled opponents.

      >:(
    I take back what I said previously. This is the final nail in the Predator franchise's coffin.
  21. Movie idea
    an idea would be a predator on the predator home world was too hell bent on killing and didn’t follow the rules set by the elders. Resulting in him not getting his weapons and armour. So he kills the elder and makes a run for it.
    Then the other predators are sent to hunt him down. But he picks them off one by one without their weapons and technology. Like he could do the mud trick and make spears out of trees and stuff.
    So it’s predator hunting down a crazy predator. People have been in enough movie. Why not make a predator movie with just the predators. And they won’t have to hold back because they will be against the same skilled opponents.

    I hope it's something like that. And leave those ANT faced predators out of it. And don't tie up the normal predator for the whole movie and then gets killed a minute after he gets down. That was an insult to all predator fans.
  22. System Apollo
    That scene at the end of 'Predator 2' tells us they don't give a shit if you manage to best one of them in combat. Just don't take their technology and try to blow the rest of them up.

    If you kill one of them, it's not like their dad's going to come at you for it or whatever.

    And if it was, why the f**k would they take so long getting their act in gear to do it?

    They either don't know about Dutch (the most likeliest answer), have no way to locate him or just don't give a damn.
    After Predators we can see that they have more important things to be occupied with than looking for some human that bested only one of their own.
  23. Xenomorphine
    That scene at the end of 'Predator 2' tells us they don't give a shit if you manage to best one of them in combat. Just don't take their technology and try to blow the rest of them up.

    If you kill one of them, it's not like their dad's going to come at you for it or whatever.

    And if it was, why the f**k would they take so long getting their act in gear to do it?

    They either don't know about Dutch (the most likeliest answer), have no way to locate him or just don't give a damn.
  24. overthere
    The only way to do this thing is to bring Arnold back and have an "ultimate" type Pred, the best Pred they got hunt Arnold as a vegance mission.

    Something along those lines.  Arnie's holed up, moved on with life, paranoid still tho...de-commissioned, he starts finding "evidence" or "clues" that Pred may be after him, that a pred is stalking him...etc...so many cool things...

    There is nothing I want to see "new" with the Predator series.  Nothing "re-invented".  You got 2 guys (Glover) that fought and survived a f-cking Predator and I'm sposed to just believe that the Pred's don't care...(not including Brody, anything after Pred 2 is worthless to the franchise and the story)

    Anyways. 

    Woo-f-cking-Hoo...

    so excited, NOT.

    Yeah sure...

    Don't you think the Predators would respect Dutch after surviving on his own and winning fair and square?
    It doesn't seem in their character to go around looking for revenge, it's not personal. It was a game to them and that Predator lost.
    I'd say the Predator would leave Dutch alive if he came across him in a crowd of people, even if he kills everyone else. Dutch earned his life in the eyes of Predators.
  25. Original Predator
    The only way to do this thing is to bring Arnold back and have an "ultimate" type Pred, the best Pred they got hunt Arnold as a vegance mission.

    Something along those lines.  Arnie's holed up, moved on with life, paranoid still tho...de-commissioned, he starts finding "evidence" or "clues" that Pred may be after him, that a pred is stalking him...etc...so many cool things...

    There is nothing I want to see "new" with the Predator series.  Nothing "re-invented".  You got 2 guys (Glover) that fought and survived a f-cking Predator and I'm sposed to just believe that the Pred's don't care...(not including Brody, anything after Pred 2 is worthless to the franchise and the story)

    Anyways. 

    Woo-f-cking-Hoo...

    so excited, NOT.

    Yeah sure...
  26. Hara-Killer
    Well it seems that An Predator movie with the Predator view is finnaly arriving , its definitly an movie focus only in Predator , will be R rated and will bring only death and Yatuja History with small humans scenes and Predator lives in the end
  27. System Apollo
    Meddling with Cameron's work was me dramatizing my point.
    Using the comics as a reflection on what could possibly be done on screen is not a good idea. I should know; I read all of them. And I could safely say, most of them will not pull through as a movie adaptation. Intertwining a concept from the Alien universe into the Predator universe is a bad idea and is surely going to upset a lot of fans from both franchises.

    Granted in terms of film, it is only the alien skull in Predator 2 that intertwines them. But from AvP2004 onward the Predator franchise only saw one standalone game which was Predator Concrete Jungle and it had a stage with aliens in it.
    Alien is just breaking through with it's independence and I think it is time that Predator does so as well.

    So I am not in agreement with the opinion that:
    That predators fight a war with the U.S military; the military loses or wins and the world becomes the Alien universe.

    I'm sorry if it offends you but I just hate it...  :(
    No offense taken at all. I just enjoy a good debate and seeing other points of view. I was simply stating that the original poster's idea wasn't too far fetched and didn't necessarily meddle with Cameron's work. I agree the comic adaptation may not work. I was more referring to the comics about the war aspect in general. But I do feel like the events from the concrete jungle novel could work as a good staging point for a full scale invasion. And as far as intertwining wey-yu.... I think an Easter egg such as a weyland yutani merger would be great. Referring to the concrete jungle game I actually liked the post credit scene involving said merger and the original mother prototype. Not sure if I would go so far into the franchise to explain mother but the merger would be a nice touch. Maybe have yutani corporation creating the FTL drives and the vessels and weyland industries providing the armament and cryogenics chambers. Just a couple of ideas.
    I accept the idea. :)
    If I were to perhaps throw in an idea.
    What if we dedicate a segment to the rituals performed by the predators? Two warring clans pick a hunter to represent each other and have them fight to the death for the right of a special hunt. The setting would take place in Africa seeing as there is a type of relevance to the cultures found in certain countries in the contenent which would be further elaborated within the film. The losing clan is sour about the loss and sends one of their own to kill the hunter. The hunter finds out and tries to alert it's clan while trying to kill it's assailant. The protagonist attempts to track down and kill the both of them. Eventually the hunter's clan is informed and it begins to send out a request to any arbitrary clan within the area and the climax is a space battle between the rogue clan and the hunter's clan including arbitrators.
    I like the idea. Alot actually however I don't think it would work on film as there is little If any human presence in the film. If you were to throw in some type of military presence in the middle of the conflict..absolutely.  I could see that being a realistic possibility for a film. I just feel like without some type of human presence no major studio will approve it. It was an act of Congress for brotherhood of the wolf to be aired in American theaters because the entire movie was done in french.  That being said no major studio will do a film where you have to read subtitles or captions throughout the whole movie to know what's going on. But I do like the idea of two warring clans. Maybe instead of fighting for a particular hunt they are fighting to be the next high council. An elder clan is more or less retiring so to speak and the successor of the war wins the seat and becomes the new council of elders. Something to that effect.
    lol, well of course the human characters would have the most screen time and dynamic. I'm saying as a conflict that would be innovative yet not over the top. Having predators fight a war with humanity will be the final nail in the franchise's coffin.

    Wow, sorry, I sound like a real asshole. I'm not saying this because I have a general dislike to the idea due to personal preference. Read Predator (2009), this is the closest to predators fighting a war with the U.S military in the EU. The concept begins to get really messy once the conflict rises. This isn't the only time we see this. In Predator Concrete Jungle (comic) an invasion is carried out on New York. Once again, it becomes messy. It's just the idea, it contradicts the image of what is established already for Predator.
  28. pred169
    Meddling with Cameron's work was me dramatizing my point.
    Using the comics as a reflection on what could possibly be done on screen is not a good idea. I should know; I read all of them. And I could safely say, most of them will not pull through as a movie adaptation. Intertwining a concept from the Alien universe into the Predator universe is a bad idea and is surely going to upset a lot of fans from both franchises.

    Granted in terms of film, it is only the alien skull in Predator 2 that intertwines them. But from AvP2004 onward the Predator franchise only saw one standalone game which was Predator Concrete Jungle and it had a stage with aliens in it.
    Alien is just breaking through with it's independence and I think it is time that Predator does so as well.

    So I am not in agreement with the opinion that:
    That predators fight a war with the U.S military; the military loses or wins and the world becomes the Alien universe.

    I'm sorry if it offends you but I just hate it...  :(
    No offense taken at all. I just enjoy a good debate and seeing other points of view. I was simply stating that the original poster's idea wasn't too far fetched and didn't necessarily meddle with Cameron's work. I agree the comic adaptation may not work. I was more referring to the comics about the war aspect in general. But I do feel like the events from the concrete jungle novel could work as a good staging point for a full scale invasion. And as far as intertwining wey-yu.... I think an Easter egg such as a weyland yutani merger would be great. Referring to the concrete jungle game I actually liked the post credit scene involving said merger and the original mother prototype. Not sure if I would go so far into the franchise to explain mother but the merger would be a nice touch. Maybe have yutani corporation creating the FTL drives and the vessels and weyland industries providing the armament and cryogenics chambers. Just a couple of ideas.
    I accept the idea. :)
    If I were to perhaps throw in an idea.
    What if we dedicate a segment to the rituals performed by the predators? Two warring clans pick a hunter to represent each other and have them fight to the death for the right of a special hunt. The setting would take place in Africa seeing as there is a type of relevance to the cultures found in certain countries in the contenent which would be further elaborated within the film. The losing clan is sour about the loss and sends one of their own to kill the hunter. The hunter finds out and tries to alert it's clan while trying to kill it's assailant. The protagonist attempts to track down and kill the both of them. Eventually the hunter's clan is informed and it begins to send out a request to any arbitrary clan within the area and the climax is a space battle between the rogue clan and the hunter's clan including arbitrators.
    I like the idea. Alot actually however I don't think it would work on film as there is little If any human presence in the film. If you were to throw in some type of military presence in the middle of the conflict..absolutely.  I could see that being a realistic possibility for a film. I just feel like without some type of human presence no major studio will approve it. It was an act of Congress for brotherhood of the wolf to be aired in American theaters because the entire movie was done in french.  That being said no major studio will do a film where you have to read subtitles or captions throughout the whole movie to know what's going on. But I do like the idea of two warring clans. Maybe instead of fighting for a particular hunt they are fighting to be the next high council. An elder clan is more or less retiring so to speak and the successor of the war wins the seat and becomes the new council of elders. Something to that effect.
  29. System Apollo
    Meddling with Cameron's work was me dramatizing my point.
    Using the comics as a reflection on what could possibly be done on screen is not a good idea. I should know; I read all of them. And I could safely say, most of them will not pull through as a movie adaptation. Intertwining a concept from the Alien universe into the Predator universe is a bad idea and is surely going to upset a lot of fans from both franchises.

    Granted in terms of film, it is only the alien skull in Predator 2 that intertwines them. But from AvP2004 onward the Predator franchise only saw one standalone game which was Predator Concrete Jungle and it had a stage with aliens in it.
    Alien is just breaking through with it's independence and I think it is time that Predator does so as well.

    So I am not in agreement with the opinion that:
    That predators fight a war with the U.S military; the military loses or wins and the world becomes the Alien universe.

    I'm sorry if it offends you but I just hate it...  :(
    No offense taken at all. I just enjoy a good debate and seeing other points of view. I was simply stating that the original poster's idea wasn't too far fetched and didn't necessarily meddle with Cameron's work. I agree the comic adaptation may not work. I was more referring to the comics about the war aspect in general. But I do feel like the events from the concrete jungle novel could work as a good staging point for a full scale invasion. And as far as intertwining wey-yu.... I think an Easter egg such as a weyland yutani merger would be great. Referring to the concrete jungle game I actually liked the post credit scene involving said merger and the original mother prototype. Not sure if I would go so far into the franchise to explain mother but the merger would be a nice touch. Maybe have yutani corporation creating the FTL drives and the vessels and weyland industries providing the armament and cryogenics chambers. Just a couple of ideas.
    I accept the idea. :)
    If I were to perhaps throw in an idea.
    What if we dedicate a segment to the rituals performed by the predators? Two warring clans pick a hunter to represent each other and have them fight to the death for the right of a special hunt. The setting would take place in Africa seeing as there is a type of relevance to the cultures found in certain countries in the contenent which would be further elaborated within the film. The losing clan is sour about the loss and sends one of their own to kill the hunter. The hunter finds out and tries to alert it's clan while trying to kill it's assailant. The protagonist attempts to track down and kill the both of them. Eventually the hunter's clan is informed and it begins to send out a request to any arbitrary clan within the area and the climax is a space battle between the rogue clan and the hunter's clan including arbitrators.
  30. pred169
    Meddling with Cameron's work was me dramatizing my point.
    Using the comics as a reflection on what could possibly be done on screen is not a good idea. I should know; I read all of them. And I could safely say, most of them will not pull through as a movie adaptation. Intertwining a concept from the Alien universe into the Predator universe is a bad idea and is surely going to upset a lot of fans from both franchises.

    Granted in terms of film, it is only the alien skull in Predator 2 that intertwines them. But from AvP2004 onward the Predator franchise only saw one standalone game which was Predator Concrete Jungle and it had a stage with aliens in it.
    Alien is just breaking through with it's independence and I think it is time that Predator does so as well.

    So I am not in agreement with the opinion that:
    That predators fight a war with the U.S military; the military loses or wins and the world becomes the Alien universe.

    I'm sorry if it offends you but I just hate it...  :(
    No offense taken at all. I just enjoy a good debate and seeing other points of view. I was simply stating that the original poster's idea wasn't too far fetched and didn't necessarily meddle with Cameron's work. I agree the comic adaptation may not work. I was more referring to the comics about the war aspect in general. But I do feel like the events from the concrete jungle novel could work as a good staging point for a full scale invasion. And as far as intertwining wey-yu.... I think an Easter egg such as a weyland yutani merger would be great. Referring to the concrete jungle game I actually liked the post credit scene involving said merger and the original mother prototype. Not sure if I would go so far into the franchise to explain mother but the merger would be a nice touch. Maybe have yutani corporation creating the FTL drives and the vessels and weyland industries providing the armament and cryogenics chambers. Just a couple of ideas.
  31. System Apollo
    Meddling with Cameron's work was me dramatizing my point.
    Using the comics as a reflection on what could possibly be done on screen is not a good idea. I should know; I read all of them. And I could safely say, most of them will not pull through as a movie adaptation. Intertwining a concept from the Alien universe into the Predator universe is a bad idea and is surely going to upset a lot of fans from both franchises.

    Granted in terms of film, it is only the alien skull in Predator 2 that intertwines them. But from AvP2004 onward the Predator franchise only saw one standalone game which was Predator Concrete Jungle and it had a stage with aliens in it. :laugh:
    Alien is just breaking through with it's independence and I think it is time that Predator does so as well.

    So I am not in agreement with the opinion that:
    That predators fight a war with the U.S military; the military loses or wins and the world becomes the Alien universe.

    I'm sorry if it offends you but I just hate it...  :(
  32. pred169


    Why does it have to be the U.S Military? And further reading the original poster's post:

    Use the post-war recovery as the reason for ramping up space exploration/terraforming efforts (do something with the Yutani name finally) as an effort to preserve humanity by spreading the population out as well as the reason for creating the Colonial Marines...     
    We already had the alien skull in Predator 2. Does the franchise have to take it a step further and meddle with James Cameron's work too?

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    The two franchises are forever intertwined so might as well make it interesting.
    But they shouldn't be. Predator has been leaning on the Alien franchise like a crutch on often occasions; it really disdains the franchise. Almost as if it can't be rich of it's own back-story.

    First I don't see where adding in the Yutani corporation or the colonial marines impedes or meddles with Cameron's work. Do you also complain about it when various authors combine these elements in comics or novels? It's not meddling. Truth be told if it were my work and someone wanted to use it and tie it into another franchise such as the predator series I would be flattered. Noone said they would alter his work and drag it through the dirt. The person who posted it was simply saying AFTER a war with humans and predators use the events to EXPLAIN the ramp up for space exploration and space travel as well as terraforming. The idea of spreading people out across the galaxy to preserve our race is a very realistic thought. And if the catalyst for exploration was an invasion and war with another race then yeah....your gonna want to create an army capable of supporting all colonies and traveling to said colonies. The Yutani name was used and the colonial Maries title was used. Doesn't mean it has to be the colonial marines as you know them from Cameron's work. Possibly a precursor to that entity.
       Second the series has had 2 intertwinings thus far. I would in no way say the predator franchise has been using the alien franchise as a crutch. There was a 5 second shot of an alien skull in predator 2.... big deal. There was no reference to aliens or wey-yu or anything else in any other standalone predator film. So saying the franchise isn't rich in back story is a bit ridiculous.  The AVP series intertwined two franchises and pretty well failed. I'll agree to that. But it wasn't the idea that failed it was poor directing and lack of storyline. It was more like mortal kombat. Two opponents get thrown into a ring "fight". The film goes on like this for another hour then the boss battle happens... finish him.... Role credits.
       That being said I feel if it were done carefully and given proper direction it could work. The series has been intertwined in novels and comics and has done well so it "can" be done.
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