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Michael Biehn Contacted About Alien 5

Michael Biehn is currently attending Pensacon 2015, a regular convention in Pensacola and according to Reddit user Sskywarpe, Biehn stated he had been contacted about Neill Blomkamp’s upcoming Alien film. Of course, this is Reddit so take it with a pinch of salt:

“I’m at Pensacon, just now gave Michael a Reece ReAction figure, said “This is yours… one question, have you been contacted for Alien 5?” He looked at me, smiled and said, “Yes.” Holy… shitake…”

“He just walked by me and I said, ” Alien 5, you gonna do it!?” To which he replied, “Looks like it!” and smiled.”

 Michael Biehn Contacted About Alien 5

Hicks

Biehn’s character, Dwayne Hicks, was featured in some of the earlier released concept art that Blomkamp had commisioned for his new Alien film during its infancy. This also lends more credit to the idea that the new film will be alternative sequel to Aliens. Thanks to Valaquen and Nazrel for the news.



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  1. Corporal Hicks
    Quote from: NickisSmart on Mar 07, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 06, 2015, 08:33:18 AM
    Quote from: RakaiThwei on Mar 05, 2015, 09:08:42 PM
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 05, 2015, 08:49:27 AM
    I know I'm gonna ask him (if I don't freeze up) when I see him in August.

    Having met Biehn, I can say that he's a pretty laid back and normal guy. So just approach him like you would any other dude!

    I've already met him before too - but I'm terrible at getting tongue tied at conventions and my last impressions of him weren't terribly great to be honest. I just want a new photo (last one was awful) and a signature on my AvPGalaxy poster project that I started 3 conventions ago. I'm probably going to see Charles Dance again (3rd time) to get him included too.

    Why not?

    Quote from: WarriorRidged on Mar 08, 2015, 11:58:33 AM
    Seems like a really nice, easygoing guy.

    He was fed-up. Had a hoody on, pulled down, barely looking at anyone who came by. Barely said a word. It might have just been how busy he was - I mean, I got there in the morning, had to wait until the very end of the day to finally get my interview - so it might have just been tired but it wasn't the best of impressions. And my first convention as well.

    I'm meeting him again in August so hopefully it'll be a better experience.
  2. MCP
    The best thing Michael Biehn has been in recently was Far Cry 3:  Blood Dragon, where he sends up his tough guy persona in an 80s retro style game.
  3. NickisSmart
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 06, 2015, 08:33:18 AM
    Quote from: RakaiThwei on Mar 05, 2015, 09:08:42 PM
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 05, 2015, 08:49:27 AM
    I know I'm gonna ask him (if I don't freeze up) when I see him in August.

    Having met Biehn, I can say that he's a pretty laid back and normal guy. So just approach him like you would any other dude!

    I've already met him before too - but I'm terrible at getting tongue tied at conventions and my last impressions of him weren't terribly great to be honest. I just want a new photo (last one was awful) and a signature on my AvPGalaxy poster project that I started 3 conventions ago. I'm probably going to see Charles Dance again (3rd time) to get him included too.

    Why not?
  4. RakaiThwei
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 06, 2015, 08:33:18 AM
    I've already met him before too - but I'm terrible at getting tongue tied at conventions and my last impressions of him weren't terribly great to be honest. I just want a new photo (last one was awful) and a signature on my AvPGalaxy poster project that I started 3 conventions ago. I'm probably going to see Charles Dance again (3rd time) to get him included too.

    I've only met Biehn once and I had a small interview with him for Monstermania 2009 where we discussed Rodriguez's PREDATORS, the untitled Alien prequel which became Prometheus and his upcoming projects. I recorded it and posted it on Youtube. All of that was done a day after I had my wisdom teeth pulled out. Pain killers and swollen gums weren't gonna stop me from seeing Biehn!
  5. Corporal Hicks
    Quote from: RakaiThwei on Mar 05, 2015, 09:08:42 PM
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 05, 2015, 08:49:27 AM
    I know I'm gonna ask him (if I don't freeze up) when I see him in August.

    Having met Biehn, I can say that he's a pretty laid back and normal guy. So just approach him like you would any other dude!

    I've already met him before too - but I'm terrible at getting tongue tied at conventions and my last impressions of him weren't terribly great to be honest. I just want a new photo (last one was awful) and a signature on my AvPGalaxy poster project that I started 3 conventions ago. I'm probably going to see Charles Dance again (3rd time) to get him included too.
  6. MCP
    Quote from: Gash on Mar 05, 2015, 06:10:50 AM


    Killing off Clemens before the final confrontation was a wrong decision. Would have made Ripley's sacrifice even more effective if she'd just lost him to the WY gunmen.



    Clemens' story had finished at that point.  Killing him off was the best idea.  That allowed Dillon to be brought forward and carry the rest of the movie alongside Ripley. 
  7. Close Encounters
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 02, 2015, 01:47:12 PM
    Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 02, 2015, 01:42:55 PMThe Hicks dominated Alien 3, the second draft anyway, did carry the character forward. Not a lot, but there was something there, and it ended with the possibility of more in the future.

    Not really. Hicks in those scripts came across as pretty bland and generic.

    Agreed, although I liked the Cold War motif they carried. My favorite line of his was when he sent a comatose Ripley off the space station and someone asks him why he's taking the risk of letting her off the station when there's a risk of the infection spreading, and he says "I owe her that much." It was one of the few lines that gave Hicks some character in that script.

    I do agree that the script as a whole was very bland. Still way better than what Alien 3 ended up being, though. I think the studio would have been better off refining that script than going with the 'monks in space' stuff they ended up pursuing. The idea of multiple factions on Earth wanting to get a hold of the xenos rather than just some evil corporate entity is actually rather appealing to me. Might have dated the movie too much if it came out when it did, what with the Berlin Wall coming down only a few years after the script was written.
  8. Gash
    Alien3 got a number of things right, and a number of things wrong. Killing off Hicks and the kid was one of the good decisions.

    Killing off Clemens before the final confrontation was a wrong decision. Would have made Ripley's sacrifice even more effective if she'd just lost him to the WY gunmen.

    Hicks and Newt, honestly couldn't give a toss, not keen on seeing either of them revived for the sake of Blomkamp's preferred trilogy. It's going to be a major stumbling block to enjoying whatever else he might have in store.
  9. xeno-kaname
    I think he'll be back but I also think there's a chance he'll die again. But this time he'll go down fighting or in some sort of sacrifice.

    I mean I can already hear a hamfisted line that goes a little like "I'll go down fighting. You knew that was how it was going to be. How it should be." :laugh:

    That be a bit lame though but I wouldn't mind it too much. Doubt it will happen since that's pretty much a slap to the Alien 3 fans xD
  10. OpenMaw
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 02, 2015, 01:47:12 PM
    Not really. Hicks in those scripts came across as pretty bland and generic.

    In some parts, but I felt there were a few good scenes. Also, it's almost tradition amongst the Alien movies that characters only really come to life once in the hands of the actors. Alien in particular was fairly utilitarian with the dialogue and characterisation.



    One more The Divide reference for Biehn in Alien V:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HrwJZak1KA


    "...Because their acid blood will melt your face off!"



    Quote from: Russ on Mar 03, 2015, 10:05:04 AM
    Watch "The Seventh Sign" where he stars with Jurgen Prochnow and Demi Moore.

    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 03, 2015, 08:48:25 AM
    He wasn't half bad in The Rock. He got wiped out after like fifteen minutes, but he did have a couple of good shouty dialogue scenes prior to that. He was also really good in Planet Terror. He put just the right amount of self-awareness into it.

    But otherwise I'd agree I haven't really seen him do anything amazing outside of Jim Cameron movies.

    What about Ringo in Tombstone?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGNdnlCbfMs#ws

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE#ws

  11. HuDaFuK
    Quote from: Salt The Fries on Mar 03, 2015, 12:19:15 AMTo be honest, Biehn only shone in Cameron's films. I would LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG, THOUGH!

    He wasn't half bad in The Rock. He got wiped out after like fifteen minutes, but he did have a couple of good shouty dialogue scenes prior to that. He was also really good in Planet Terror. He put just the right amount of self-awareness into it.

    But otherwise I'd agree I haven't really seen him do anything amazing outside of Jim Cameron movies.
  12. xeno-kaname
    Quote from: Sagit on Mar 02, 2015, 10:49:40 AM
    I just want to know one thing... where they are? No but seriously why do movie makers have to complicate almost every franchise? Previous four Alien movies told us pretty good and actualy solid story (Resurrection was weak I know). Why there has to be a spin-off, prequel to the prequel, alternate story/endings? Is it so hard to come up with new good plot for ALien 5. If director of ALien 5 is out of ideas he should just ask people on this forum. He will be given an inifinite amount of material to work on for next 10 years without making an alternate version of story we all love and bringing our beloved heroes from their retirement.
    Just give us new characters and new story and make it into solid Alien movie without alle this alternate BS. I don;t mind a little Ripley cameo but leave the Hicks alone. He is dead (A:CM plot was so weak that nobody should consider it canon), deal with it.
    Just some thoughts...
    Again with this. This wasn't a guy on Fox's timetable trying to churn out a story. He chose to work with the characters he loved. He actually gave himself a harder time by doing this. He has to do justice to these sci fi legends and find ways of progressing their stories in smart and compelling ways.

    But I'm sure he's also creating new characters. Probably characters that could carry the torch later on. So he has double the challenge really. I'm sure he can create new characters to service his story but his heart was set on that Ripley/Hicks/Newt story that somehow ended abruptly in the beginning of part 3.

    I'm really hoping he signs on. I think he's probably inclined to do it. Just hope shit doesn't happen.
  13. Salt The Fries
    I don't think Biehn has anything left in him, personally, Bill Paxton (whether you liked Hudson as a role or not) has shown a lot more skill throughout his career. To be honest, Biehn only shone in Cameron's films. I would LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG, THOUGH!
  14. Mr. Clemens
    Ha... I heard a gag somewhere recently (though I don't remember where) about a horror movie standard of 'The White Girl Survives'. Pretty apt, when you think about it.

    Maybe both Ripley and Shaw, in the first ten minutes of their respective films, should get wiped out by a safety support or a really hot cup of McDonald's coffee... that'd throw us for a loop!  :D
  15. Mr. Clemens
    Quote from: MCP on Mar 02, 2015, 04:44:38 AM
    I never understood the reverence people have for Michael Biehn.  In Aliens, he really doesn't do much.  After he gets injured by acid, he's out for the count for the rest of the movie.

    Everybody loves the reluctant hero.

    And Hicks had to get wiped out by that acid in Aliens. Imagine Ripley and Hicks storming the hive together - now that would have been a weak-ass ending.

    I do agree that Dillon and Clemens are deeper, more intriguing characters though.
  16. Corporal Hicks
    I hate all options provided to me so far to make Alienkamp work but I'll try not to let that effect my joy too much - unless it is all a dream and it actually has some narrative bearing on the film in which case I will be disappointed beyond belief.
  17. Perfect-Organism
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 02, 2015, 03:15:49 PM
    Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 02, 2015, 01:18:49 PM
    Dark Horse did pretty well with their alcoholic, embittered version of Hicks. Let's not be unimaginative; you could have done a lot with the character if you wanted to. Look at what they did with the Ripley character between the first and second films.

    I loved that. It's the kind of thing I would like to see them do with him. It'd still carry somewhat of the hopeless tone of Alien 3 with that aspect. In that he descends into substance abuse to deal with his issues.

    Agreed.  It's a way to really naturally grow the character which.  Killing Hicks off in the opening credits was just cheap.  The fact that the actor Michael Biehn has also had some personal trials and tribulations would make the story that much more authentic.  Do I sense you're coming around to the ideas that have been thus far presented about Alien 5?  You have to admit, it's an exciting time...
  18. Corporal Hicks
    Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 02, 2015, 01:18:49 PM
    Dark Horse did pretty well with their alcoholic, embittered version of Hicks. Let's not be unimaginative; you could have done a lot with the character if you wanted to. Look at what they did with the Ripley character between the first and second films.

    I loved that. It's the kind of thing I would like to see them do with him. It'd still carry somewhat of the hopeless tone of Alien 3 with that aspect. In that he descends into substance abuse to deal with his issues.
  19. kliq316
    I've often wondered how Alien 3 would have worked if Hicks had survived the crash and taken the 'love interest' role that eventually went to Clemens. With Hicks getting killed by the Alien after finally getting close to Ripley would have been far more poetic (and tragic) for Ripley.
  20. OpenMaw
    The Hicks dominated Alien 3, the second draft anyway, did carry the character forward. Not a lot, but there was something there, and it ended with the possibility of more in the future. Hicks was a perfectly flexible character which you could do all kinds of stuff with.

    On the subject of the Hicks character being in the vein of Kyle Reese, i'll never agree with that exactly. Both characters are actually quite different, and Biehn does deliver very different performances... However, we should give Biehn credit for Hicks even having the softer edges. A few subtle changes in the dialogue and the way it was delivered, is what gave us the Hicks we know and love. The original intend, according to Biehn anyway, was for Hicks to be more or less just as abrasive to Ripley as the rest of the marines.
  21. TimmyTurnersDad
    Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 02, 2015, 01:18:49 PM
    Quote from: TimmyTurnersDad on Mar 02, 2015, 11:53:49 AM
    That would be because Clemens' story is ultimately self-contained within Alien 3. Yeah, he's one of the most interesting characters in the film and his relationship with Ripley is more complex than what she had with Hicks, but he was always meant to get the axe within the confines of the same film he was introduced in.

    A version of Clemens was originally the main character. Then he became a secondary character who sacrificed himself at the end to save Ripley and the universe. Then he was a secondary character who, according to storyboards, at least made it to the end of the film. And then he was a secondary character who unceremoniously exited the movie halfway through. Clusterf**k.

    Okay, fair enough. But my point still stands: Due to the fact that Clemens is both introduced and killed off within the confines of the same film (Alien 3), it is far easier for general fans to accept his death. Meanwhile, Hicks is introduced in one film with the presumed notion that his character will survive and grow as part of Ripley's new "family," only to be brutally axed off in the opening moments of the immediate sequel.

    It's the same reason as to why Hicks and Newt spark so much controversy with their deaths, as opposed to other popular characters from Aliens like Vasquez or Hudson.

    Quote
    QuoteWhere else could you take the Hicks character, really?  Biehn may have perfected that 'sensitive tough guy' role, but even in the 80s that was considered cliche.  It's pretty much the domain of cheesy action movies.

    Dark Horse did pretty well with their alcoholic, embittered version of Hicks. Let's not be unimaginative; you could have done a lot with the character if you wanted to. Look at what they did with the Ripley character between the first and second films.

    Indeed. There's definitely places that one could take Hicks for character development. After all, there was at least one plan for him to be the main protagonist and star of Alien 3, instead of Ripley.
  22. Valaquen
    Quote from: robbritton on Mar 02, 2015, 01:30:23 PM
    Clemens goes along with her, out of concern, but is never given the chance to truly believe her as he is never told about the Alien until it attacks him. He can only suspect.

    Yeah and it felt like a waste following him for entire scenes, finding clues about the Alien, slowly warming to the guy, and then the film's suddenly done with him. I would've loved to see that character directly interact with Dillon, Morse etc in a time of crisis.
  23. robbritton
    Quote from: MCP on Mar 02, 2015, 11:32:24 AM
    Quote from: SiL on Mar 02, 2015, 11:04:19 AM
    Quote from: MCP on Mar 02, 2015, 10:27:16 AM
    But no one really cared when he died.
    Most people find him one of the few good characters in the movie and hate that he dies when he does.

    That's true but I don't see the legions of fans bawling about it like they do with Hicks.

    Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 02, 2015, 11:07:37 AM
    Quote from: MCP on Mar 02, 2015, 10:27:16 AM
    romantic subplots.

    "Hi, i'm Ripley. Everyone I know has died, including my daughter, and a little girl who became my new surrogate daughter. Wanna f*ck?!"

    Yeah, I didn't really think the attempt at "romance" worked in Alien 3. I did like the relationship between the two characters though, and as SiL said his death really threw me off. Not in a good way either, because the film, the theatrical version anyway, has a real lack of solid characters. After they take out Andrews, too, the film suffers greatly from only having, basically, three solidly defined characters.

    I don't even count the theatrical version anymore..

    And I don't really call it 'romance' in the traditional sense.  I don't think the fact they had sex was really a big deal.

    Quote from: robbritton on Mar 02, 2015, 11:26:38 AM
    Isn't Hicks relatively unique in the canon in that he pretty much just believes Ripley? From the word go he is listening, and is unlikely to attribute her stories to space sickness (as Clemens, entirely reasonably, might).

    Clemens did listen to Ripley, hence doing the autopsy on Newt and investigating the burn mark where Murphy was killed.  He also recounted her story to Andrews.

    Clemens goes along with her, out of concern, but is never given the chance to truly believe her as he is never told about the Alien until it attacks him. He can only suspect.
  24. Valaquen
    Quote from: TimmyTurnersDad on Mar 02, 2015, 11:53:49 AM
    That would be because Clemens' story is ultimately self-contained within Alien 3. Yeah, he's one of the most interesting characters in the film and his relationship with Ripley is more complex than what she had with Hicks, but he was always meant to get the axe within the confines of the same film he was introduced in.

    A version of Clemens was originally the main character. Then he became a secondary character who sacrificed himself at the end to save Ripley and the universe. Then he was a secondary character who, according to storyboards, at least made it to the end of the film. And then he was a secondary character who unceremoniously exited the movie halfway through. Clusterf**k.

    QuoteWhere else could you take the Hicks character, really?  Biehn may have perfected that 'sensitive tough guy' role, but even in the 80s that was considered cliche.  It's pretty much the domain of cheesy action movies.

    Dark Horse did pretty well with their alcoholic, embittered version of Hicks. Let's not be unimaginative; you could have done a lot with the character if you wanted to. Look at what they did with the Ripley character between the first and second films.
  25. MCP
    Quote from: TimmyTurnersDad on Mar 02, 2015, 11:53:49 AM


    Meanwhile, Hicks was someone who appeared in Aliens as a portion of Ripley's new "family." His character wasn't nearly as developed as Clemens would go on to be, but it was fully the director's intention that Hicks would live and go on to grow as a character and in his relationship (whatever its nature would be) with Ripley. The same goes for Newt and Bishop. Alien 3 then promptly begins with a sledgehammer to the fans' faces by impaling Hicks in his sleep.

    Where else could you take the Hicks character, really?  Biehn may have perfected that 'sensitive tough guy' role, but even in the 80s that was considered cliche.  It's pretty much the domain of cheesy action movies.
  26. TimmyTurnersDad
    Quote from: MCP on Mar 02, 2015, 11:32:24 AM
    Quote from: SiL on Mar 02, 2015, 11:04:19 AM
    Quote from: MCP on Mar 02, 2015, 10:27:16 AM
    But no one really cared when he died.
    Most people find him one of the few good characters in the movie and hate that he dies when he does.

    That's true but I don't see the legions of fans bawling about it like they do with Hicks.

    That would be because Clemens' story is ultimately self-contained within Alien 3. Yeah, he's one of the most interesting characters in the film and his relationship with Ripley is more complex than what she had with Hicks, but he was always meant to get the axe within the confines of the same film he was introduced in. The same goes for Dillon too.

    Meanwhile, Hicks was someone who appeared in Aliens as a portion of Ripley's new "family." His character wasn't nearly as developed as Clemens would go on to be, but it was fully the director's intention that Hicks would live and go on to grow as a character and in his relationship (whatever its nature would be) with Ripley. The same goes for Newt and Bishop. Alien 3 then promptly begins with a sledgehammer to the fans' faces by impaling Hicks in his sleep.

    I'm not making a statement on the quality of either film here, btw. I'm just explaining why fans are far more vocal about their disdain that Hicks died over more intriguing or complex characters like Clemens or Dillon.
  27. MCP
    Quote from: SiL on Mar 02, 2015, 11:04:19 AM
    Quote from: MCP on Mar 02, 2015, 10:27:16 AM
    But no one really cared when he died.
    Most people find him one of the few good characters in the movie and hate that he dies when he does.

    That's true but I don't see the legions of fans bawling about it like they do with Hicks.

    Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 02, 2015, 11:07:37 AM
    Quote from: MCP on Mar 02, 2015, 10:27:16 AM
    romantic subplots.

    "Hi, i'm Ripley. Everyone I know has died, including my daughter, and a little girl who became my new surrogate daughter. Wanna f*ck?!"

    Yeah, I didn't really think the attempt at "romance" worked in Alien 3. I did like the relationship between the two characters though, and as SiL said his death really threw me off. Not in a good way either, because the film, the theatrical version anyway, has a real lack of solid characters. After they take out Andrews, too, the film suffers greatly from only having, basically, three solidly defined characters.

    I don't even count the theatrical version anymore..

    And I don't really call it 'romance' in the traditional sense.  I don't think the fact they had sex was really a big deal.

    Quote from: robbritton on Mar 02, 2015, 11:26:38 AM
    Isn't Hicks relatively unique in the canon in that he pretty much just believes Ripley? From the word go he is listening, and is unlikely to attribute her stories to space sickness (as Clemens, entirely reasonably, might).

    Clemens did listen to Ripley, hence doing the autopsy on Newt and investigating the burn mark where Murphy was killed.  He also recounted her story to Andrews.
  28. robbritton
    Isn't Hicks relatively unique in the canon in that he pretty much just believes Ripley? From the word go he is listening, and is unlikely to attribute her stories to space sickness (as Clemens, entirely reasonably, might). Where the other Marines are bull headed he is quiet and contained. Which is an interseting thing to play in that world. Someone level headed who out and out agrees with Ripley, and someone capable who doesn't contradict her instints, but rather enables them.

    And his is an experience (were he to survive) unexplored in the series too. We've had a person lose fractious crewmates and a child to time, but this is a person losing real, genuine camaraderie but also gaining a new unit. The idea of the surrogate family unit in a world that knows these things exist -  Does that make you more or less out to exterminate them? Ripley never has anything to lose after Alien (especially after Hicks and Newt are killed offscreen). If Hicks's sole function is to present a different side of her - a woman with a lot to lose still after these things - then that is still import enough.

    And take it to Earth War places, and there are opportunities for conflict in how these survivors deal with their survival. There are stories to tell here that could justify this decision, as long as it isn't just done for the sake of it. From Fox's point of view it makes sense to draft in a fan favourite who could shoulder future films should Weaver want to bow out too. It's not like Michael Biehn is going to refuse a high profile series after getting stiffed on A3, T2 and Avatar, is it? There's money in series, and familiar faces bring audiences back.


    I wouldn't put his odds high on surviving this one, mind. It's card trick thinking, innit? Everyone will be so wary of the fact he dies in A3 that they'll be certain he'll survive this one, which means Blomkamp is likely to undermine that certainty for shock effect. Although, I can see Hicks living on with Newt while Ripley finally goes (which is super pointless as they did it in A3, but there we are). Conjecture is the best.
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