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Alien 5 to be “Genetic Sibling” to Alien & Aliens

Ever since Neill Blomkamp first revealed his concept art for his Alien 5 project, art that featured an aged and acid scarred Hicks and Aliens-esque looking Ripley, the question as to how Alien 5 will relate to the saga has been debated online. Talking to Sky News, Blomkamp and Sigourney Weaver talk about the new film being a “genetic sibling” to Alien and Aliens:

They don’t specifically state that Alien 5 will be retconning Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection, however, it sounds like a strong possibility. It may also be that he is speaking in terms of the tone of the films. Or it may simply be the same sort of approach Nimrod Antal and Robert Rodriguez took with Predators not acknowledging Predator 2.

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  1. SpeedyMaxx
    I saw Alien 3 (and Resurrection) in the theater and I'm just trying not to think about the time span.

    I probably should've held onto my old DH/Earth War trades from before they retconned all the f**king character names. Wilkes and Billie my ass!
  2. Xenomrph
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    To claim the novels are contradicted every couple of years, aside from being objectively false,
    All comics made from 1987-1992 were contradicted by Alien3 when it killed Hicks and Newt, then everything between 1992-1997 was contradicted by Alien Resurrection when it made it clear the Alien died with Ripley, so, y'know, every five years or so for a while there.

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    ignores the fact that the movies "contradict" each other to the same degree as well (that is to say, very very little).
    Until it turns out Blomkamp is actually ignoring A3 and Resurrection to have Hicks still be alive, no.
    Novels, not comics. :)
    Xhan was referring to the more recent novels of the DH Press/Titan era, which don't contradict each other like that (and don't even contradict the Bantam novels, and in fact directly reference them). Or at least, the person he was quoting was referring to them.
    So the whole "contradicted every few years" idea hasn't even been remotely true for almost the past 20 years. :P
  3. SiL
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    To claim the novels are contradicted every couple of years, aside from being objectively false,
    All comics made from 1987-1992 were contradicted by Alien3 when it killed Hicks and Newt, then everything between 1992-1997 was contradicted by Alien Resurrection when it made it clear the Alien died with Ripley, so, y'know, every five years or so for a while there.

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    ignores the fact that the movies "contradict" each other to the same degree as well (that is to say, very very little).
    Until it turns out Blomkamp is actually ignoring A3 and Resurrection to have Hicks still be alive, no.
  4. Xenomrph
    Cameron did show that; it was the entire f**king reason for Ripley to take anything Burke said at face value, which is the entire reason for Ripley to be on board in the first place.

    Cameron wouldn't have wasted film on it otherwise.

    A novel? You mean the same article of faith that are routinely contradicted by other novels and media every couple of years?

    What an absolutely definitive source you discovered.

    (Actually you just made my earlier point for me)
    To claim the novels are contradicted every couple of years, aside from being objectively false, ignores the fact that the movies "contradict" each other to the same degree as well (that is to say, very very little).

    Ripley takes Burke's statements at face value, and we learn everything Burke says is full of shit and meant to steer Ripley into helping him get an Alien. That means it's hardly out of character for anything Burke says about Amanda to be totally full of shit. As for Ripley, either she takes what he says at face value and doesn't look into Amanda's history, which leaves the door wide open for A:I to take place, or she does look into it and finds who-knows-what, which also leaves the door wide open for A:I to take place. Whether the "official records" of Amanda's life were doctored, or incomplete, literally wrong due to a clerical error, or actually 100% correct, A:I's whopper of a cliffhanger ending leaves the door wide open for a huge number of potential explanations for what is otherwise an amazingly tiny continuity speedbump in the grand scheme of things.
  5. NetworkATTH
    Alien Isolation - to my knowledge... Just expanded on her daughter's story. Was there something else added that contradicts anything in the Alien films? Apart from the idea of the Company lying to ripley about her daughter. Cause that's not the same thing as a retcon.

    Burke had no reason to lie - and Ripley had every reason to look up her daughter's life details from non-company sources. She would have been at her utmost paranoid about trusting the company at that point. Finding out Amanda went off in search of her voice recorder to somewhere which came to grief, Nostromo-style, would have been a big red flag.

    And the fact nobody's heard about anything remotely like the Alien... Nobody mentoning that the woman's daughter mentioned encountering something similar, at Ellen's own hearing? Not plausible.

    And if the company was nefarious and evil, having a reason for covering it up, then they would have also had every reason to go and seek out LV-426 and actively scour it before Ellen returned. They didn't. It's just another colony to them. One which they never bothered putting any real dedicated bio-warfare personnel or facilities on.

    The game's really well presented and worthy of being praised, but even its own writers copped out of providing an explanation for Amanda's inclusion. :)

    So, again, if people can take that gaming experience to heart, they can enjoy a movie which retcons the third/fourth movie, too. 'Isolation' proved that, so well as something is done well, people just won't care.
    To be fair, all of those "continuity" issues you bring up can all be explained away really, really easily.

    Amanda's fate in the game and her fate in 'Aliens' don't line up, but the game ends on a massive cliffhanger so there's obviously more story to tell, and dozens of ways to tie it all together.

    W-Y didn't scour LV-426 for Alien stuff because they didn't know it was there - you shut off the Derelict's beacon in Isolation, and all other data from the Nostromo incident was destroyed (or floating in the Narcissus, awaiting pickup decades later). Even the crew files in the inquest in 'Aliens' mention the Nostromo case had been closed years after Isolation is supposed to take place - W-Y had simply stopped searching. It was obviously getting to be cost prohibitive - they'd lost the Nostromo, and 15 years later they lost an entire space station, all with absolutely nothing to show for it.

    I mean we're not talking Colonial Marines degrees of continuity speedbumps here.


    No, they can't; unless you're the kind of mouthbreather par excellence that thinks Big Show really does hate Dolph Ziggler for taking his lunchmoney because it's all so, so very real. A:I shits all over Ripley's characterization and you can't say otherwise unless you're an apologist. Ripley was always ahead of the curve and that's why she and anyone else survived Acheron in the first place.

    Brah, relax. You're overlooking some things. Some many things.
  6. Xhan
    Cameron did show that; it was the entire f**king reason for Ripley to take anything Burke said at face value, which is the entire reason for Ripley to be on board in the first place.

    Cameron wouldn't have wasted film on it otherwise.

    A novel? You mean the same article of faith that are routinely contradicted by other novels and media every couple of years?

    What an absolutely definitive source you discovered.

    (Actually you just made my earlier point for me)
  7. Xenomrph
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    I think he refers to Ripley's characterization as in she didn't check out Burke's information on Amanda for herself or search for any mention of aliens.
    It assumes Ripley would have found anything to contradict what Burke said, as well. Amanda Ripley's life (not to mention, how her life would be documented) between A:I and her death is one huge blank slate with dozens of ways to fill in the gaps leading to 'Aliens'.
  8. razeak
    There is a 42 year gap between A:I and Aliens. Everything is entirely plausible and easily explained at this point. A sequel may muddy things up, but as it stands, A:I fits rather neatly into the continuity.

    1. Burke had plenty of reason to lie, especially if he uncovered something about the events of A:I. If someone else in the company was able to connect the dots with the loss of the Nostromo and the space station years later, then of course he is going to drum up something. It's his character. He's blind with greed and ambition.

    2. The writers gave an explanation for Amanda's inclusion. She was looking for information about her mother. That's all the reason that is needed. As for no one looking into Amanda's reports, we don't have any evidence that is clear cut at this point that she survives to do that. Again, Burke isn't trustworthy.

    3. If only a few corporate people were involved, maybe they thought it more prudent to just cover the Nostromo incident up rather than get exposed to lawsuits, fines and imprisonment.

    4. It can't shit all over Ripley's character. Ellen is incredibly smart, but not all knowing for starters(egg on Sulaco, xeno in the Narcissus). Not checking into a very likely story that her daughter was dead 57 years later hardly sticks out as a bad characterization. If anything, blame Cameron for not showing that. It's just not a hard thing to believe someone died in their 60s. Isn't it only around 30 days before she's back on LV-426? Maybe it was something she was trying to look into. Bureaucracy and all that. On top of that, Van Leuwen admits there is a colony on LV-426. The fact that aliens aren't running amok on Earth or in the news and she knows a colony is there, probably made her realize that W/Y wasn't on to anything at that point, or that the creeps involved are long dead. Never mind that she is an emotional and mental train wreck at this point.

    5. A recent novel contradicts the notion that W/Y doesn't know something is on LV-426.

    I think he refers to Ripley's characterization as in she didn't check out Burke's information on Amanda for herself or search for any mention of aliens.

    I just don't see how anyone can take a hardline stance that A:I screws up continuity. I'm open to evidence to the contrary. Good night :)
  9. Xenomrph
    Alien Isolation - to my knowledge... Just expanded on her daughter's story. Was there something else added that contradicts anything in the Alien films? Apart from the idea of the Company lying to ripley about her daughter. Cause that's not the same thing as a retcon.

    Burke had no reason to lie - and Ripley had every reason to look up her daughter's life details from non-company sources. She would have been at her utmost paranoid about trusting the company at that point. Finding out Amanda went off in search of her voice recorder to somewhere which came to grief, Nostromo-style, would have been a big red flag.

    And the fact nobody's heard about anything remotely like the Alien... Nobody mentoning that the woman's daughter mentioned encountering something similar, at Ellen's own hearing? Not plausible.

    And if the company was nefarious and evil, having a reason for covering it up, then they would have also had every reason to go and seek out LV-426 and actively scour it before Ellen returned. They didn't. It's just another colony to them. One which they never bothered putting any real dedicated bio-warfare personnel or facilities on.

    The game's really well presented and worthy of being praised, but even its own writers copped out of providing an explanation for Amanda's inclusion. :)

    So, again, if people can take that gaming experience to heart, they can enjoy a movie which retcons the third/fourth movie, too. 'Isolation' proved that, so well as something is done well, people just won't care.
    To be fair, all of those "continuity" issues you bring up can all be explained away really, really easily.

    Amanda's fate in the game and her fate in 'Aliens' don't line up, but the game ends on a massive cliffhanger so there's obviously more story to tell, and dozens of ways to tie it all together.

    W-Y didn't scour LV-426 for Alien stuff because they didn't know it was there - you shut off the Derelict's beacon in Isolation, and all other data from the Nostromo incident was destroyed (or floating in the Narcissus, awaiting pickup decades later). Even the crew files in the inquest in 'Aliens' mention the Nostromo case had been closed years after Isolation is supposed to take place - W-Y had simply stopped searching. It was obviously getting to be cost prohibitive - they'd lost the Nostromo, and 15 years later they lost an entire space station, all with absolutely nothing to show for it.

    I mean we're not talking Colonial Marines degrees of continuity speedbumps here.


    No, they can't; unless you're the kind of mouthbreather par excellence that thinks Big Show really does hate Dolph Ziggler for taking his lunchmoney because it's all so, so very real. A:I shits all over Ripley's characterization and you can't say otherwise unless you're an apologist. Ripley was always ahead of the curve and that's why she and anyone else survived Acheron in the first place.
    Yeah but that's just, like, your opinion, man.

    I wasn't aware A:I had any bearing on Ripley's characterization seeing as how she's not in it and doesn't contribute to the plot or characters in any meaningful way (unless you want to count her "farewell" message to her daughter I guess?).
  10. razeak
    When people encounter extraordinary things, the feel a desire to tell others about it when they've reached safety.

    She'd also be a key witness as to what happened to the station and Weyland-Yutani personnel who were travelling with her. Plus, it would have cleared her mother's name of any suspicion of blame, whatsoever; providing a solution to that old mystery was clearly something she felt very strongly about.

    I think you may be thinking in absolutes. Many people would do exactly that, but not all.
  11. Xhan
    Alien Isolation - to my knowledge... Just expanded on her daughter's story. Was there something else added that contradicts anything in the Alien films? Apart from the idea of the Company lying to ripley about her daughter. Cause that's not the same thing as a retcon.

    Burke had no reason to lie - and Ripley had every reason to look up her daughter's life details from non-company sources. She would have been at her utmost paranoid about trusting the company at that point. Finding out Amanda went off in search of her voice recorder to somewhere which came to grief, Nostromo-style, would have been a big red flag.

    And the fact nobody's heard about anything remotely like the Alien... Nobody mentoning that the woman's daughter mentioned encountering something similar, at Ellen's own hearing? Not plausible.

    And if the company was nefarious and evil, having a reason for covering it up, then they would have also had every reason to go and seek out LV-426 and actively scour it before Ellen returned. They didn't. It's just another colony to them. One which they never bothered putting any real dedicated bio-warfare personnel or facilities on.

    The game's really well presented and worthy of being praised, but even its own writers copped out of providing an explanation for Amanda's inclusion. :)

    So, again, if people can take that gaming experience to heart, they can enjoy a movie which retcons the third/fourth movie, too. 'Isolation' proved that, so well as something is done well, people just won't care.
    To be fair, all of those "continuity" issues you bring up can all be explained away really, really easily.

    Amanda's fate in the game and her fate in 'Aliens' don't line up, but the game ends on a massive cliffhanger so there's obviously more story to tell, and dozens of ways to tie it all together.

    W-Y didn't scour LV-426 for Alien stuff because they didn't know it was there - you shut off the Derelict's beacon in Isolation, and all other data from the Nostromo incident was destroyed (or floating in the Narcissus, awaiting pickup decades later). Even the crew files in the inquest in 'Aliens' mention the Nostromo case had been closed years after Isolation is supposed to take place - W-Y had simply stopped searching. It was obviously getting to be cost prohibitive - they'd lost the Nostromo, and 15 years later they lost an entire space station, all with absolutely nothing to show for it.

    I mean we're not talking Colonial Marines degrees of continuity speedbumps here.


    No, they can't; unless you're the kind of mouthbreather par excellence that thinks Big Show really does hate Dolph Ziggler for taking his lunchmoney because it's all so, so very real. A:I shits all over Ripley's characterization and you can't say otherwise unless you're an apologist. Ripley was always ahead of the curve and that's why she and anyone else survived Acheron in the first place.
  12. Nightmare Asylum
    Follow-up question: What did you think of it?

    Very gory and b-movie like in a scary and perfectly disturbing kind of way and the The Thing From Another World (1951) I've always been a sucker for and is quite different from Carpenter's interpretation. They're on par for me. The difference here is that The Thing is based on a novel which makes the whole remake thing of a different nature and doesn't really compare to an actual retcon, reboot or remake.

    readaptation
  13. Xenomrph
    Fair enough. :) I don't quite agree on the "not quite a remake" but I get where you're coming from since it's more true to the source material than the 1951 movie was.

    The Thing 82 is much less a remake of the Thing From Another World than it is a return to the source material, only really borrowing the title sequence. The Thing 2010 on the other hand is practically a beat for beat remake of The Thing 82. And that was pretending to be a prequel. Why it couldn't have been an amalgum of The Thing from Another World and the expanded elements of Dean Fosters 82 novelisation is anyone's guess - then at least it might have had some new variations to show off.
    Strongly disagree that the prequel is a remake of the Carpenter movie. Pretty much every place it could be different, it was different.
  14. Gash
    The Thing 82 is much less a remake of the Thing From Another World than it is a return to the source material, only really borrowing the title sequence. The Thing 2010 on the other hand is practically a beat for beat remake of The Thing 82. And that was pretending to be a prequel. Why it couldn't have been an amalgum of The Thing from Another World and the expanded elements of Dean Fosters 82 novelisation is anyone's guess - then at least it might have had some new variations to show off.
  15. SpreadEagleBeagle
    Follow-up question: What did you think of it?

    Very gory and b-movie like in a scary and perfectly disturbing kind of way and the The Thing From Another World (1951) I've always been a sucker for and is quite different from Carpenter's interpretation. They're on par for me. The difference here is that The Thing is based on a novel which makes the whole remake thing of a different nature and doesn't really compare to an actual retcon, reboot or remake.
  16. SpreadEagleBeagle
    I don't disagree there, and I'm very much against retconning Alien3 out of existence (partly on principle, and partly because I like the movie quite a bit). I was more of making the point that retcons aren't necessarily bad things when they're handled right. Like you, I don't think this is one of those times though. :P

    I just can't stand anything re____ . I just don't see the point of it. Total waste of money.
  17. Xenomrph
    I don't disagree there, and I'm very much against retconning Alien3 out of existence (partly on principle, and partly because I like the movie quite a bit). I was more of making the point that retcons aren't necessarily bad things when they're handled right. Like you, I don't think this is one of those times though. :P
  18. SpreadEagleBeagle
    So, until then, the game features a retcon - but people generally like it. :) That's why I say the same will apply to this project if it goes the same way.

    Whilst we don't know the full details about Alienkamp and how it'll return Ripley and Hicks, one of the options is to just ignore lien 3 and Resurrection. This is slightly different to Isolation as that doesn't effectively erase anything the current continuity.

    No, you're correct- it simply created two continuities.
    Interesting use of past-tense.

    Guys these are films made for our entertainment. Believe whatever the f*** you want to believe.

    Well, the reason I care is that sequels revive the movie prior to it and continues building on what already had been built. Ignoring movies is the same as undoing them in the long run, especially if the new retcon sequels are successful. A3 will be fade away, which is a pity it's an amazing movie that deserves better than that. I also hate retcons, reboots and remakes in general because they are ALWAYS cheap. It's the laziest thing one can do movie-wise, especially retcons. I don't want my favorite sci-fi movie franchise to go that sad route.
    I wouldn't say "ALWAYS" cheap. I can name several remakes/reboots that ended up being very solid - John Carpenter's 'The Thing' is a remake and it's completely fantastic, the Star Trek reboot is great, Casino Royale is great, the Nolan Batman movies are reboots and they're arguably better than the Schumacher ones, The Amazing Spider-Man is pretty great, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Halloween remakes are pretty great, the Thomas Jane 'Punisher' is worlds better than the Dolph Lundgren one, 'The Ring' US remake is fantastic, and that's off the top of my head.

    Remakes and reboots can be bad, but they're not universally, categorically bad.

    Also any movie sequel ends up having retcons in it. It's the nature of continuing a story that otherwise had "an ending". Literally every sequel in any medium since the dawn of mankind has had "retcons" in them to varying degrees.

    Ok, the new "The Punisher" is better, but they're both proper crap movies to me.

    Retconning TWO entire movies is not the same as changing around minor things and details.
  19. Xenomrph
    So, until then, the game features a retcon - but people generally like it. :) That's why I say the same will apply to this project if it goes the same way.

    Whilst we don't know the full details about Alienkamp and how it'll return Ripley and Hicks, one of the options is to just ignore lien 3 and Resurrection. This is slightly different to Isolation as that doesn't effectively erase anything the current continuity.

    No, you're correct- it simply created two continuities.
    Interesting use of past-tense.

    Guys these are films made for our entertainment. Believe whatever the f*** you want to believe.

    Well, the reason I care is that sequels revive the movie prior to it and continues building on what already had been built. Ignoring movies is the same as undoing them in the long run, especially if the new retcon sequels are successful. A3 will be fade away, which is a pity it's an amazing movie that deserves better than that. I also hate retcons, reboots and remakes in general because they are ALWAYS cheap. It's the laziest thing one can do movie-wise, especially retcons. I don't want my favorite sci-fi movie franchise to go that sad route.
    I wouldn't say "ALWAYS" cheap. I can name several remakes/reboots that ended up being very solid - John Carpenter's 'The Thing' is a remake and it's completely fantastic, the Star Trek reboot is great, Casino Royale is great, the Nolan Batman movies are reboots and they're arguably better than the Schumacher ones, The Amazing Spider-Man is pretty great, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Halloween remakes are pretty great, the Thomas Jane 'Punisher' is worlds better than the Dolph Lundgren one, 'The Ring' US remake is fantastic, and that's off the top of my head.

    Remakes and reboots can be bad, but they're not universally, categorically bad.

    Also any movie sequel ends up having retcons in it. It's the nature of continuing a story that otherwise had "an ending". Literally every sequel in any medium since the dawn of mankind has had "retcons" in them to varying degrees.
  20. SpreadEagleBeagle
    Guys these are films made for our entertainment. Believe whatever the f*** you want to believe.

    Well, the reason I care is that sequels revive the movie prior to it and continue building on what already had been built. Ignoring movies is the same as undoing them in the long run, especially if the new retcon sequels are successful. A3 will fade away completely, which is a pity it's an amazing movie that deserves better than that. I also hate retcons, reboots and remakes in general because they are ALWAYS cheap. It's the laziest thing one can do movie-wise, especially retcons. I don't want my favorite sci-fi movie franchise to go that sad route.
  21. meshuggah
    Yeah I can accept the idea of choosing timelines after Aliens, it reminds me of Mass Effect - Now, would you like to follow Blomkamp or have the tragic Fincher ending? - And after the film cones out fans will debate over the alternative canons for eons as Fox laughs to the bank. But I honestly think its the best approach and I believe that's what Blonkamp meant when he said he won't "undo" them.

    Ugh, excuse the spelling errors, typing on a phone. Also, I hope Bishop returns!
  22. Son Of Kane
    So, until then, the game features a retcon - but people generally like it. :) That's why I say the same will apply to this project if it goes the same way.

    Whilst we don't know the full details about Alienkamp and how it'll return Ripley and Hicks, one of the options is to just ignore lien 3 and Resurrection. This is slightly different to Isolation as that doesn't effectively erase anything the current continuity.

    No, you're correct- it simply created two continuities.
  23. Adam802
    Just ignore A3 and A:R.  Dont officially make a reason for why A3 and A:R dont exist, just make a new movie.  That way, people who like A3 and A:R can still enjoy them as canon if they want to.  Also, trying to make a reason why A3/A:R didnt happen will just be contrived and forced. 
  24. Corporal Hicks
    So, until then, the game features a retcon - but people generally like it. :) That's why I say the same will apply to this project if it goes the same way.

    Whilst we don't know the full details about Alienkamp and how it'll return Ripley and Hicks, one of the options is to just ignore lien 3 and Resurrection. This is slightly different to Isolation as that doesn't effectively erase anything the current continuity.
  25. Xenomorphine
    When people encounter extraordinary things, the feel a desire to tell others about it when they've reached safety.

    She'd also be a key witness as to what happened to the station and Weyland-Yutani personnel who were travelling with her. Plus, it would have cleared her mother's name of any suspicion of blame, whatsoever; providing a solution to that old mystery was clearly something she felt very strongly about.
  26. HuDaFuK
    Why? Marlow's argument that the only way to beat the Alien is to refuse to engage is pretty compelling and accurate. It's not at all unrealistic that Amanda would buy into that and keep schtum as a result.
  27. Xenomorphine
    No, but either she dies much earlier than her mother was informed or humanity should know about the creatures by then (or at the very least, she'd be disbelieved for telling a story her mother would have looked up).
  28. Xenomorphine
    Amanda's fate in the game and her fate in 'Aliens' don't line up, but the game ends on a massive cliffhanger so there's obviously more story to tell, and dozens of ways to tie it all together.

    But that's my point. The game, as it stands, is essentially retconning known canon. If taht changes in a future edition, great, but it has yet to do so.

    So, until then, the game features a retcon - but people generally like it. :) That's why I say the same will apply to this project if it goes the same way.
  29. HappyAlien
    Alien 3 isn't going anywhere. Even if I love this. Don't see what the problem with a different take  would be.


    cool lets make a completely new Star Wars Episode 4 and 5 movie then!
    i hate the idea but i love the franchise and Sigourney, Blomkamp, also Micheal Biehn is a hellofa actor now!
    but this story is just.. they are raping my childhood :D like AVP and AR werent enough

    Star Wars and Empire were the two best films in the  Star Wars franchise while Alien 3 and Alien R were not as good as the first two Alien films. If anything they should remake Star Wars episodes 1,2 and 3.
  30. Xenomrph
    Alien Isolation - to my knowledge... Just expanded on her daughter's story. Was there something else added that contradicts anything in the Alien films? Apart from the idea of the Company lying to ripley about her daughter. Cause that's not the same thing as a retcon.

    Burke had no reason to lie - and Ripley had every reason to look up her daughter's life details from non-company sources. She would have been at her utmost paranoid about trusting the company at that point. Finding out Amanda went off in search of her voice recorder to somewhere which came to grief, Nostromo-style, would have been a big red flag.

    And the fact nobody's heard about anything remotely like the Alien... Nobody mentoning that the woman's daughter mentioned encountering something similar, at Ellen's own hearing? Not plausible.

    And if the company was nefarious and evil, having a reason for covering it up, then they would have also had every reason to go and seek out LV-426 and actively scour it before Ellen returned. They didn't. It's just another colony to them. One which they never bothered putting any real dedicated bio-warfare personnel or facilities on.

    The game's really well presented and worthy of being praised, but even its own writers copped out of providing an explanation for Amanda's inclusion. :)

    So, again, if people can take that gaming experience to heart, they can enjoy a movie which retcons the third/fourth movie, too. 'Isolation' proved that, so well as something is done well, people just won't care.
    To be fair, all of those "continuity" issues you bring up can all be explained away really, really easily.

    Amanda's fate in the game and her fate in 'Aliens' don't line up, but the game ends on a massive cliffhanger so there's obviously more story to tell, and dozens of ways to tie it all together.

    W-Y didn't scour LV-426 for Alien stuff because they didn't know it was there - you shut off the Derelict's beacon in Isolation, and all other data from the Nostromo incident was destroyed (or floating in the Narcissus, awaiting pickup decades later). Even the crew files in the inquest in 'Aliens' mention the Nostromo case had been closed years after Isolation is supposed to take place - W-Y had simply stopped searching. It was obviously getting to be cost prohibitive - they'd lost the Nostromo, and 15 years later they lost an entire space station, all with absolutely nothing to show for it.

    I mean we're not talking Colonial Marines degrees of continuity speedbumps here.
  31. Xenomorphine
    Alien Isolation - to my knowledge... Just expanded on her daughter's story. Was there something else added that contradicts anything in the Alien films? Apart from the idea of the Company lying to ripley about her daughter. Cause that's not the same thing as a retcon.

    Burke had no reason to lie - and Ripley had every reason to look up her daughter's life details from non-company sources. She would have been at her utmost paranoid about trusting the company at that point. Finding out Amanda went off in search of her voice recorder to somewhere which came to grief, Nostromo-style, would have been a big red flag.

    And the fact nobody's heard about anything remotely like the Alien... Nobody mentoning that the woman's daughter mentioned encountering something similar, at Ellen's own hearing? Not plausible.

    And if the company was nefarious and evil, having a reason for covering it up, then they would have also had every reason to go and seek out LV-426 and actively scour it before Ellen returned. They didn't. It's just another colony to them. One which they never bothered putting any real dedicated bio-warfare personnel or facilities on.

    The game's really well presented and worthy of being praised, but even its own writers copped out of providing an explanation for Amanda's inclusion. :)

    So, again, if people can take that gaming experience to heart, they can enjoy a movie which retcons the third/fourth movie, too. 'Isolation' proved that, so well as something is done well, people just won't care.
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