With early copies of Alien – River of Pain finding their way into fan’s hands, an advertisement at the back is drawing attention. It has been known for sometime that Tim Lebbon would be writing a new Alien-related trilogy, following on from the events as set-up in Alien – Sea of Sorrows, it was unknown until now that it would in fact be a new AvP novel series.
- Part One – Predator: Incursion
- Part Two – Alien: Invasion
- Part Three – Alien vs. Predator: Armageddon
The trilogy is being called The Rage War. No further details are available at this point. This will mark a return of Alien vs. Predator to the novel format after nearly 15 years – 10 if you’re counting from the movie novelization – and be the first original AvP novel.
River of Pain also includes an advertisement for a republishing of the late A.C Crispin’s Alien Resurrection novelization, finishing off the republishing they started this year with all of Alan Dean Foster’s novelizations. Thanks to Perfect-Organism for this news.
But it wasn't Ripley. It was Ripley 8. And the film often hinted that Ripley 8 didn't especially care because she wasn't all human.
Maybe but we also have to remember that there is an unspecified number of clans. Some of these clans maybe potentially allied with one another, others maybe antagonistic. I'm sure that there are some very strong clans out there with maybe a high number count as well, and throw in potential allied clans.. Well, obvious numbers speak. So for the Predators to be fleeing, some extremely powerful force would have to get them running with Xenomorphs under some control.
You mention the AvP flashback, so I am going to assume you mean the movie. Those Aliens were bred for a specific purpose, and for a few hundred years the Predators were successful... until somewhere along the line, something got screwed up which resulted in the indigenous population of Antarctica being wiped out and the Predators overwhelmed. There were three fighting that pyramid and they took down dozens before being taken down. Their last minute ditch was the self-destruct which... did the job of course. But that was just one clan.
So... what I want to say or ask.. is this ONE clan fleeing or multiple clans? If it's one clan.. I suppose that would be more likely for Xenomorphs to make this one clan of Predators to flee. If it's more than one clan, or the whole race (Super Predators not accounted for due to species tension) then it'd have to be DAMN serious.
....You mentioned the Engineers using the Xenomorphs, well.. what if it's not them? What if it's the Super Predators? Kind of invokes Three World War and AvP: Evolution if that's going to be the case.
Not too sure about that considering that James had to go back and tie in 3 and Resurrection retrospectively after the novel was already written. I'm sure something similar was always in the book.
I'm sure a mass of weaponized Xenomorphs specifically going for the Predators would be good enough. Remember, the EU always displays their humans being their strength and if numbers were sufficient enough...well, AvP flashback.
The Aliens series needs to move on from Ripley. Ripley was an excellent character played to near-perfection by Sigourney Weaver, but the series shouldn't be limited to constantly re-visiting this one character. I don't like Alien 3, but I feel that it does conclude her story arc nicely. I'd like the series to progress, to introduce new characters and situations.
But nevertheless it goes against everything Ripley stood for. She spent her life and subsequent second life trying to prevent such a threat from reaching Earth to wipe out humanity, only to more or less manage it herself via other means...
I'm surprised no one else found this particular plot point completely idiotic. Ripley crashed the Auriga specifically to prevent a disaster of Aliens finally reaching Earth, only to almost destroy the entire planet anyway.
Given that Sea of Sorrows made it very clear we're at least on reasonable terms with the Arcturians, I'd be surprised if they were behind these evil goings on in the new book. But who knows.
The Engineers going on a warpath for Earth, displacing the Predators along the way, would be pretty cool, but I doubt Fox is allowing anyone to play with them like that. Look at how lightly they had to tread in Fire and Stone. A new species would be cool, as well.
I have my fingers crossed that the Arcturians become involved somehow.
Exactly, and weaponizing Aliens wouldn't be enough to get them running en masse. I know that the old EU is not accounted for but we've seen Aliens being weaponized against the Predators... in Three World War. The Predators didn't run from those Aliens, and I'm talking way before the joint team up with the USCMC.
So it'd have to be something EXTREMELY serious to get the Predators running. Although I can't imagine how serious with the Xenomorph it'd have to be. Considering the experiences the Predators have with the Xenomorph, I doubt infestation of homeworld would be that much of a problem assuming the Predators are fleeing from the homeworld.
That was actually a big goof. The book says the ship hit Paris, when the film quite clearly shows it hitting Africa. I'm guessing the author got confused by the added scene at the end of the Special Edition.
Yes, it caused climate change that was threatening to be catastrophic, so the resurgent WY has been terraforming Earth. It also made it sound like France pretty much doesn't exist anymore. "Used to be an important European country" or something like that.
Do they deal with the actual physical fallout of the Auriga's crash in any way?
No mention of the USCM, though. At least not that I remember.
I'll try and get a copy of the cover in a decent size.
Pass.
I wonder if it's
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Interesting...?
Though why would Predators flee from the Xenomorph? It's... kind of not like them, especially when in amassed numbers to flee from such prey.
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Exactly what makes sense?
Twas me.
I can't say I am excited for that. I really can't.. It sort of feels like the AvP Universe I grew up with was wiped clean and replaced with the Prometheus universe.
I don't think so, but my guess is that the basic plot is already in place. They wouldn't ask Lebbon to make changes if they didn't have some concrete idea of what will happen in Blomkamp's film.
I was kind of hoping it would really.. Kind of hoping it would ignore Alien 3 and Resurrection, though not cause I think those two movies should be retconned. Mmm..
So it seems like Alien 5 doesn't cause too many problems for the post-Resurrection period.
I wouldn't have thought so. It's already out in some countries, and the delay began way before Blomkamp ever started talking about a fifth film.
Couple that with Randy Stradley's comments on the new series in development over at Dark Horse...
Rage War is set post-Sea of Sorrows, which is set after Resurrection. If Rage War can be reworked to also take account of Blomkamp's new film, that would seem to indicate that the film won't be ignoring A3 and Resurrection. Either way, I'm very much looking forward to seeing how this all develops.
I wonder of the delays on the Weyland-Yutani report are also due to Blomkamp's film.
This fills me with dread...
I'm afraid of massive delay (or worse...cancellation)
I sincerely hope not
I'm definitely looking forward to seeing what Lebbon has in store. The subtitles of the books (Incursion, Invasion, Armageddon) makes me wonder if they're doing an Earth War type story.
Again, according to the author of Sea of Sorrows, there are "plans" for the Arcturians.
It would be a bit frustrating if Titan's AvP and Dark Horse's AvP ignore each other (or worse...contradict each other). I'm hoping that Fox has demanded some consistency between the two.