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Lance Henriksen shares his thoughts on Aliens & Prometheus

Legendary actor Lance Henriksen has done a recent interview with Youtube celebrity Comic Book Girl 19 where he discusses his career highlights including his time on James Cameron’s Aliens and shares his thoughts on Ridley Scott’s Prometheus. Like the rest of us, he left the cinema feeling pretty confused about the whole thing. He praises Noomi Rapace’s performance but he was pretty disappointed with the movie as a whole. He jokingly ends the section by saying that he won’t feature in Prometheus 2. Skip to 7:40 to hear about Aliens and at 13:40, he shares his thoughts on Prometheus.

Thanks to RakaiThwei for the news.



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  1. predxeno
    I speak my mind on what I believe in, unlike you guys I don't insult people who have different beliefs; I would never call you "mad" just because you have a different perspective, apparently you don't have that same respect for me.
  2. predxeno
    Wow, the way you word things we'd expect the military to still be using Windows 95 because of budgetary issues.
    The way you word things we'd expect the military to have 3D TVs in the lavatory to impress civilians who will never see them.

    The whole thing relies on the idea that just because the technology exists means its use would be ubiquitous in every conceivable application. This isn't how the world works. We've had 3D film since the twenties, but here we are almost a hundred years later and they're still struggling to argue its worth.

    There's no need to rely on "Well, the Nostromo is old" when "It wasn't deemed practical or necessary" suits just fine. The Prometheus didn't even have super fancy tech throughout its entire vessel as SM keeps trying to point out, and it didn't have it for anything that was actually critical. All of their navigation systems, read-outs, etc. were done on regular screens. Compare your smartphone to the cockpit of the latest commercial airliner, cruise ship, aircraft carrier, or space shuttle and you'll see that just because touch screens and voice-activated AI are pretty ubiquitous in smartphones these days, doesn't mean they're used for every damn thing.

    Jeez.

    There is a difference here that you are blatantly avoiding at all costs; none of the Prometheus's technology is new anymore, 57 year old technology would be cheap and VERY affordable by Aliens' time and actually quite helpful.


    ..what is this page about, again?
    A chronicle of predxeno's madness?

    Watching the interview now, lorf bless Lance.

    How am I being mad for stating the most logical fallacies?  Just because my opinion isn't the popularopinion doesn't mean it's wrong, but I wouldn't expect a conformist to understand that.
  3. SiL
    Wow, the way you word things we'd expect the military to still be using Windows 95 because of budgetary issues.
    The way you word things we'd expect the military to have 3D TVs in the lavatory to impress civilians who will never see them.

    The whole thing relies on the idea that just because the technology exists means its use would be ubiquitous in every conceivable application. This isn't how the world works. We've had 3D film since the twenties, but here we are almost a hundred years later and they're still struggling to argue its worth.

    There's no need to rely on "Well, the Nostromo is old" when "It wasn't deemed practical or necessary" suits just fine. The Prometheus didn't even have super fancy tech throughout its entire vessel as SM keeps trying to point out, and it didn't have it for anything that was actually critical. All of their navigation systems, read-outs, etc. were done on regular screens. Compare your smartphone to the cockpit of the latest commercial airliner, cruise ship, aircraft carrier, or space shuttle and you'll see that just because touch screens and voice-activated AI are pretty ubiquitous in smartphones these days, doesn't mean they're used for every damn thing.

    Jeez.
  4. SM
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    Just as the therapeutic room aboard Gateway station would: Why is it using giant flat projectors when it could simply envelope a patient in the illusion of being inside an actual peaceful location?

    Why did Vickers suits use a giant flat screen?

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    The APC's command centre, however, would have clearly benefited from something along those lines...

    In principal yes; not so much in practicality.  Too small.

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    So, he's got double the reason to find out what Ripley's dreams are about; for gathering useful data, if nothing else.

    Do you often have linear, and literally accurate dreams?
  5. Xenomorphine
    The Sulaco might not necessarily need holographic displays, but the interfaces are quite clearly retro (as are those of the Nostromo personnel files being splashed up on view behind Ripley at Gateway). The APC's command centre, however, would have clearly benefited from something along those lines... Just as the therapeutic room aboard Gateway station would: Why is it using giant flat projectors when it could simply envelope a patient in the illusion of being inside an actual peaceful location?

    And, again, the device for monitoring dreams would have been very useful. And if the scene between David 8 and Weyland really was meant to be inferred as allowing for two-way interaction while dreaming, why is Ripley not being at least psychologically treated that way, instead of being fobbed off with sleeping medication?

    Also, shouldn't at least Burke have been interested in seeing what she was dreaming about? On the one hand, he's apparently representing her at the hearing, which means he'd at least be obligated to gather what evidence he can to defend her. On the other, we eventually find out he's corrupt enough to send colonists out to the derelict's co-ordinates, purely out of curiosity! So, he's got double the reason to find out what Ripley's dreams are about; for gathering useful data, if nothing else.

    Considering all of that, I know Ridley Scott clearly wasn't taking any of these ramifications into account, but it almost makes a mockery of the Jordans being sent out... Gather Ripley's dream data and bypass the whole curiosity thing completely: Send out a properly equipped Weyland-Yutani expedition (or at least detour something already out in that neck of the woods). He'd be able to make a case for doing so with that sort of information.

    As for holographic displays, Hadley's Hope could have definitely benefited from one. They've got a giant table apparently dedicated to nothing but mapping. :) Slowly labouring through 2D blueprints seems an awfully inefficient way of doing so when you could just punch up a 3D map you can twist and turn around any way you please to. I mean, we could fan-wank an explanation along the lines of the 'holography station' having mysteriously malfunctioned, but it seems weird they didn't just have a back-up laying around instead of having this ominously huge machine just sitting in the middle of the room all the time for the purpose of 2D mapping presentation.

    I also remember, back when 'Prometheus' was being released, pointing out that the Auriga's utter lack of any of this technology makes it even stranger (especially medical scans and interfaces). The Nostromo-is-old theory works, sure. You can apply that to the prison planet, too. But Gateway Station is busy and being near Earth would make it especially easy to keep updated, while Hudson's proudly banging on about how the Sulaco's stuff is "state of the bad-ass art" - all of which are long after the Nostromo's encounter. Then we see this super-secret military research ship, even further into the future and, well... Definite inconsistencies.

    So, yes, there's an obvious case to be made about Nostomo and Fury comparisons. Not so much when you make them with the Sulaco, Gateway and Auriga.
  6. SM
    I found her Prometheus dissection kinda painful.

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    Wow, the way you word things we'd expect the military to still be using Windows 95 because of budgetary issues.  In Aliens, Ripley and co. utilize a table screen to view the blueprints for Hadley's Hope; explain to me why that table isn't using holographic technology if that technology is over 57 years old.

    Same reason Prometheus used 2D weather radar displays and ultrasounds and video feeds and great big entertainment screens I supposed.
  7. RakaiThwei
    Sorry RakaiThwei, no disrespect, sometimes you start talking about one thing that leads into another, the thread will go back to it's origins soon I think :-)

    Eh, it's alright I guess, Milan. I just.. can't help but shake my head and roll my eyes.

    In regards to this interview as well as some of her other videos, it's clear that ComicBookGirl19 is a Prometheus fangirl. Nothing wrong with that, but it would've been interesting to hear Lance talk about the different Weyland portrayals. At the time when he was filming AvP, Lance seemed to really believe in what he was help putting out. And he still maintains a good relationship with the folks over at ADI. I know that when I spoke with Tom Woodruff Jr., he seemed to still stand by AvP when I told him about the fan reaction and I'm sure he still probably stands by it.

    I know that a couple years back, Lance was in Cherry Hill to meet and greet with fans, I wish I would've gotten the chance to speak with him as well as I did with Tom, Ian and Mike Biehn. Would've been interesting to speak with Lance. Personally, I'm surprised he's disappointed with Prometheus and his feelings seem to more or less match up with Cameron's.
  8. predxeno
    Wow, the way you word things we'd expect the military to still be using Windows 95 because of budgetary issues.  In Aliens, Ripley and co. utilize a table screen to view the blueprints for Hadley's Hope; explain to me why that table isn't using holographic technology if that technology is over 57 years old.
  9. Milan
    Here's a funny but true story, on many occasions government technology can be influenced by things designed in TV shows, this was certainly the case with the TV show 24 and its CTU (Counter-Terrorism Unit).

    I seen some episodes from that show but not as many that I could call myself a fan or follower, still liked it though, might pick up a box some days and go through some of it's seasons :-) What did the goverment pick up frpm that show?
  10. predxeno
    Here's a funny but true story, on many occasions government technology can be influenced by things designed in TV shows, this was certainly the case with the TV show 24 and its CTU (Counter-Terrorism Unit).
  11. Milan
    How am I avoiding the question?  I already answered your question in my previous post; the military needs to demonstrate that it has up-to-date technology not only to impress the citizens it's supposed to protect, but also to deter enemies from seeing it as a weak and outdated organization.

    I think that has more to do with what type of weapons they have at their disposal and the damage they can do with them.

     And I think that the equipment a scientist would use on an exploreing expidition would be different compareing the equipment used in a scouting/ rescue mission in a possible hostile enviroment. But to be honest I don't know much about how these missions are done irl but I think that if you salvage all the equipment used by scientists/ explorers on a friendly mission to make contact with some tribe in an unexplored region, would be very different compared with all the eqipment used by a navy seal team on a rescue mission in a hostile enviroment, I also think that who's funding each mission is of importance when talking about the quality of the equipment being used.
  12. predxeno
    How am I avoiding the question?  I already answered your question in my previous post; the military needs to demonstrate that it has up-to-date technology not only to impress the citizens it's supposed to protect, but also to deter enemies from seeing it as a weak and outdated organization.
  13. SiL
    Or you could just keep avoiding the question and acting like that means you have a case ... ???

    For the record, Alien's concept art has some pretty Prometheus-level technology.
  14. SiL
    You're essentially asking why the military needs Blu-Ray players and HD tv, they need it to show they are up-to-date on technology; if not for a practical reason then at least to show the world that they are still on the leading edge of things, if they show inferior technology then that's a psychological invitation for attack.
    No, I'm asking why they would have that technology in the areas we see.

    I have asked this repeatedly. You refuse to answer.

    Seriously, why would you put a holographic screen in a god-damned hangar? Not even Prometheus does this.

    If an enemy saw the home shopping channel on the Auriga - the Auriga's already under attack.
    Also this.
  15. SM
    If an enemy saw the home shopping channel on the Auriga - the Auriga's already under attack.

    And the overwhelming majority of screens on Prometheus were not holographic.  There was the mapping table, whatever they used for Weyland's message, Charlie's little rubiks cube and the screen Shaw was using in her quarters.  There's dozens of screens all around the bridge and in medlab that were simple displays or touchscreens.
  16. predxeno
    You're essentially asking why the military needs Blu-Ray players and HD tv, they need it to show they are up-to-date on technology; if not for a practical reason then at least to show the world that they are still on the leading edge of things, if they show inferior technology then that's a psychological invitation for attack.
  17. SiL
    Wey-Yu and the marines have the exact same technology,
    Clearly they don't. The Marines aren't shown having Pups available to them.

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    You're suggesting with your missile silo example that the only reason the Auriga wasn't upgraded with the latest tech was cause it was produced 257 years ago of A:R, if it was produced later than it would have been a more modern ship with no need for updating.
    I'm saying just cos there's new tech doesn't mean it's going to be used.

    And again:

    Where do we see in the Auriga that would need fancy holographic screens?
    You say that because A:CM doesn't give the Sulaco Prometheus-level tech, that this is Ridley Scott's fault for having more advance technology in a prequel movie. How do you not see how stupid this is?
  18. SM
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    Also, you're making quite a few things up yourself in your attempt to keep Prometheus canon.

    1) Prometheus is quite obviously canon as of right now, so what I attempt is neither here nor there.
    2) What am I making up?

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    Also, if people have this low an opinion of Fox already, why are they trusting Fox with the power to decanonize titles for a massive series reboot?  Are we really that confident that Fox won't end up abusing this power somehow?

    Because they're making a serious attempt at a cohesive continuity, for what seems like the first time.

    Will it all slot flawlessly together - no.  There's already issues with Out Of The Shadows, and I told my contact at Fox as much.  More will no doubt pop up in the comics and Isolation and whatever else follows.

    Doesn't mean I don't appreciate the fact they're actively trying to make it fit.
  19. predxeno
    Wey-Yu and the marines have the exact same technology, whenever a merc dies the player can easily pick up any compatible weapons and items.

    You're suggesting with your missile silo example that the only reason the Auriga wasn't upgraded with the latest tech was cause it was produced 257 years ago of A:R, if it was produced later than it would have been a more modern ship with no need for updating.
  20. Xenomrph
    We don't really get a say in the matter either way, from an "official" standpoint.

    But if you don't like what FOX does, you can ignore them and do their own thing. Fans have done that for decades.
  21. predxeno
    Also, if people have this low an opinion of Fox already, why are they trusting Fox with the power to decanonize titles for a massive series reboot?  Are we really that confident that Fox won't end up abusing this power somehow?
  22. SM
    It has everything to do with Ridley, he is clearly not being consistent with the Alien universe like you claim.

    No, you claimed Ridley ignored his own film.

    Again, no need to make things up.

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    I love this new dynamic where I'm the one attacking canon and SM and SiL are the ones defending it, I still don't get why they can't see AVPR as canon if they're willing to jump through this many hurdles defending Prometheus though.

    I guess because you're incapable of isolating your low opinion of Prometheus from the facts.

    And on your continual drive to make things up, I've never found enough evidence to divorce the AvPs from Alien continuity (despite how crap they are).  At least until Prometheus completely ignored them in terms of Weyland.  And Fox is merely backing this up.
  23. Xenomrph
    don't get me wrong, I'm okay with shoehorning Prometheus in with Alien, visual style differences and all, but I'm saying that I totally get why people would consider it an anachronism that not a single iota of the fancy, shiny new holographic tech in Prometheus manages to disseminate into any sort of usage seen in any of the movies or the bulk of the EU, and we get a pretty good cross-section of life across the movies and EU (ranging from civilian, to military, to scientific, to corporate) spanning a timeline of centuries. To date the only EU source I can think of offhand that uses fancy holographic tech is AvP2010 (and that managed to come out pre-Prometheus :P).

    Like yeah, you can handwave the discrepancies on a case-by-case basis, like why there aren't tabletop holograms at Ripley's ICC inquest in 'Aliens' (or why the map of the Hadley's Hope colony isn't a tabletop hologram), but flat-out ignoring the visual style discrepancy as if it isn't there seems silly.
    It's obviously not a deal-breaker for me and I can look past it, but I'm not going to act like I don't understand why people might be irked by it.

    There's a difference regarding 3D TVs and Prometheus tech; those are still new so no one has them but the Prometheus tech has been around for over 57 years, 257 if you include A:R, yet neither the Sulaco nor the Auriga have it.
    Okay. How many people do you know with old TVs and VHS players hooked up into them in their bathroom.

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    Also, even though Fifield invented the mapping balls, it didn't stop Wey-Yu from using them in A:CM and they utilize the exact same weapons and technology as the colonial marines.
    That's A:CM's fault for not paying attention, not Ridley's.
    To be completely fair, the mapping balls are on the Weyland Industries website as proprietary Weyland tech.

    To be fair, the Weyland industries website is proper wank made up by the marketing people.

    But i guess it's canon somehow.
    Loads of people on this forum were hell-bent as citing it as canon as "proof" that the AvP movies never happened.
    I'm okay with it being canon, but I'm also of the opinion that the site is intentionally meant to be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. It's marketing wank, but not the way you're thinking.
  24. predxeno
    I love this new dynamic where I'm the one attacking canon and SM and SiL are the ones defending it, I still don't get why they can't see AVPR as canon if they're willing to jump through this many hurdles defending Prometheus though.
  25. Blacklabel
    There's a difference regarding 3D TVs and Prometheus tech; those are still new so no one has them but the Prometheus tech has been around for over 57 years, 257 if you include A:R, yet neither the Sulaco nor the Auriga have it.
    Okay. How many people do you know with old TVs and VHS players hooked up into them in their bathroom.

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    Also, even though Fifield invented the mapping balls, it didn't stop Wey-Yu from using them in A:CM and they utilize the exact same weapons and technology as the colonial marines.
    That's A:CM's fault for not paying attention, not Ridley's.
    To be completely fair, the mapping balls are on the Weyland Industries website as proprietary Weyland tech.

    To be fair, the Weyland industries website is proper wank made up by the marketing people.

    But i guess it's canon somehow.
  26. Xenomrph
    The point is that W-Y has access to them if they're advertising them on their website. :P
    Okay, then let's review for a second:

    Why would a tugboat like the Nostromo have them?

    Why would Marines use a flying lightshow that would give them away to a potential enemy?
    I didn't say they would, I was just countering the idea that the mapping balls were one-and-done pieces of tech that were only on the Prometheus mission and never seen again because Fifeld died.
  27. SiL
    The point is that W-Y has access to them if they're advertising them on their website. :P
    Okay, then let's review for a second:

    Why would a tugboat like the Nostromo have them?

    Why would Marines use a flying lightshow that would give them away to a potential enemy?

    I find that VERY hard to believe that ships that old would still be in use when more modern ships can be relied on.
    There are still ships from the 40s and 50s in commission.
  28. predxeno

    That's my point, no one uses outdated technology.
    You really, really aren't getting this, are you?

    One, I sent a link to a missile silo that uses 8" floppies. In 2014. Goodbye "No-one uses old tech".

    Two, you said the Sulaco should have had it, but we see very little of the Sulaco in the film, and the rooms we do see don't make sense to have Prometheus-like technology in them. We see locker rooms, hangar bays, etc. Even the Prometheus didn't have fancy tech in those places.

    We see plenty of the Sulaco in A:CM and there's no reference to Prometheus tech.  Also, your missile silo example implies that both the Sulaco and Auriga were constructed during Prometheus's timeframe and that's why neither was upgraded, I find that VERY hard to believe that ships that old would still be in use when more modern ships can be relied on.
  29. Xenomrph
    There's a difference regarding 3D TVs and Prometheus tech; those are still new so no one has them but the Prometheus tech has been around for over 57 years, 257 if you include A:R, yet neither the Sulaco nor the Auriga have it.
    Okay. How many people do you know with old TVs and VHS players hooked up into them in their bathroom.

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    Also, even though Fifield invented the mapping balls, it didn't stop Wey-Yu from using them in A:CM and they utilize the exact same weapons and technology as the colonial marines.
    That's A:CM's fault for not paying attention, not Ridley's.
    To be completely fair, the mapping balls are on the Weyland Industries website as proprietary Weyland tech.
  30. SiL
    That's my point, no one uses outdated technology.
    You really, really aren't getting this, are you?

    One, I sent a link to a missile silo that uses 8" floppies. In 2014. Goodbye "No-one uses old tech".

    Two, you said the Sulaco should have had it, but we see very little of the Sulaco in the film, and the rooms we do see don't make sense to have Prometheus-like technology in them. We see locker rooms, hangar bays, etc. Even the Prometheus didn't have fancy tech in those places.

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    Also, it is NOT A:CM's fault for following the standard Prometheus set
    It IS A:CM's fault for not paying attention that the "pups" were Fifield's.
  31. predxeno
    That's my point, no one uses outdated technology.

    Also, it is NOT A:CM's fault for following the standard Prometheus set; Scott essentially said Blu-Ray technology preceded VHS, this is his fault.  Are you going to blame Alien: Isolation as well for following in Alien's footsteps rather than Prometheus's?
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